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>Tactics is my favorite Final Fantasy.
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>Tactics is my favorite Final Fantasy.
>so much so I named my character in XIV after Ramza.
>I never finished the game.
> Realized what blasphemy I was committing.
> Start a new game in War of the Lions.
>got stock early in chapter 1.

anons, what kind of character builds should I go for and where the best time and places to grind?
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>>258248663
Mime has second best stat growth and the first desert allows you to delevel from a shitty class ie chemist or bard
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>>258249209
I thought they fixed that bug for the PSP version.
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>>258249209
>chemist
>shitty
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>>258252293
I think you meant as an poor stat growth, not that their abilities are useless.
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>>258248663

MONK STRONK

PUNCH SOLDIERS
PUNCH MONSTERS
PUNCH DEMONS
PUNCH DRAGONS
PUNCH ULTIMA
PUNCH EVERYTHING
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>>258248663
Not sure about in War of the Lions (gave up midway due to slo-mo gameplay and an "improved" old-English translation that somehow managed to be MORE incomprehensible than the original), but in the original: one fully trained Calculator makes all other units redundant.

Choose a male unit, get 'em to Bard and learn a song. Then move them to Calculator and give them singing as a secondary ability. Because songs charge independantly of the unit's turn, this allows them to rack up JP fairly quickly despite Calculator's crappy speed.

Teach them all the numbers and CT.

Then change them to Black Mage with Math as a secondary skill, and with the right spells and equipment you've got a unit who can win any non-boss encounter in one turn. (Just play with number combinations until you find one that hits all enemies and spares one or two of your guys, then use Flare.)

Obviously, that's a long-term goal that you should gradually work towards over the course of the game, but it's a VERY useful build.

Also: Ninjas with the monk's bare-hand fighting skill and Hamedo.

For quick JP grinding early on, leave one enemy alive but at like 2 hp. He'll run into the corner, and you can have your units throw stones at one another or accumulate until you're satisfied. (Use the desert trap to delevel.)
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>>258248663
>Tactics is favorite
>I never finished the game

What? why?
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>>258254412
OP here, I made the MT a monk and you is easily the strongest character in the party. Problem was everyone else was pretty unfocused and crappy. so then I decide "I should go grind some levels" but the gallows in the middle of chapter 2 to be a very poor time to grind. Never got past that point.

I also just realized that I own the game both physically and digitally and have a PSP Vita. This whole time I could've been abusing ad hoc. So this threads completely pointless siliceous turning into a Final Fantasy Tactics should post. Just dump all your Final Fantasy Tactics related crap here.
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>>258248663
At least one of your units must be a Samurai with Arithmetician secondary.
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>>258255245
I'm assuming he got like halfway or 3/4 in.
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>tfw war of the lions doesn't have spell quotes when casting
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>>258254412
I don't see why you would use any other class.
brb downloadan emu and making a party full of monks.
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>>258248663
You play on Excalibur
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>>258257246
>play on a hilly or bumpy map
>suddenly you can't chakra or revive your allies
>proceed to get assfucked by the first summoner that gets a titan off
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>>258255245
Not the OP, but atleast for me. I never really played through most of the childhood games I played. My older brother and I would sometiems work on the same save file or it was me watching my aniki play.
>Watching aniki take down Emerald and Ruby in FFVII.
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>get WotL back in 2008ish
>grind for DAYS on the first random encounter map
>have Ramza and 4 randoms with fully maxed out classes

FUCK YOU CHOCOBOS AND YOUR GODDAMN CHOCO CURE.
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>>258257246
>>258257476

>Random encounter on Grog Hill
>Fighting like 12 fucking monks at the same time

Jesus Christ.
I want a sequel with more cool random encounters like this.
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>>258249209
>>258249574
>>258252293
>>258252927
using the delevel trick is hardly necessary unless you want to solo the mulitplayer missions
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>>258258321
How sore was your asshole when the battle was over?
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>people advising you grind to calculator
Why
all you need is draw out black mages
two swords monks or brawler ninjas
And even that's overdoing it for the majority of the game
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>>258258708

I was a few turns away from having Agrias die on me
I kept reviving her but the monks kept Shockwaving her before she managed to do anything
Monks are serious fucking business. Autopotion is a fucking godsend as well
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>>258258321
>That one random encounter with a chance to spawn a calculator with flare

I never want to see that fight. Never ever ever.
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I love FFT so much. I think finding about FFT advance and then actually playing it is the single most disappointing moment of my life. Why the fuck did they do that?
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>>258260567

I haven't played Advance, but I keep hearing how awful it is. I want to play it just to see what exactly is so godawful about it, but the single fact that they took away FFT's Ivalice and replaced it with 'HEY IT'S A DREAMLAND THERE'S ALL KINDS OF SPECIES! NONE OF THIS IS REAL BTW' will probably make me rage hard. FFT's Ivalice was really great and I wish that we had another game set after FFT's events.
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>>258261834
FFTA has tonberries and they're one of the only monsters you can't have
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>>258261834
Judges and laws are some of the faggiest shit ever. Fuck that game
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>>258248663
Monks.
Free heals, Free revives, insane equip options, wonderful PA growth.
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final fantasy tactics is probably my favorite game ever. I was also pretty disappointed at ffta, but then I realized it is not that bad. the story is a problem and so are the judges, but it is longer and it has more variety.

I always played with knight ramza + two swords (one of them being excalibur). never had a problem other than fighting ovelius or that roof level where the assassins kill the guest character all the time
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>>258248663
>start a new game in war of the lions

you're a fucking faggot
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>>258261834
For more Ivalice you should play FFXII. People bash on that game because its not a traditional Final Fantasy, but it has some of the deepest gameplay, best writing and great combat.

If you're one of those guys who thinks that Vagrant Story was set in Ivalice (even though Matsuno has said that it isn't) then play that also. Even if its not Ivalice its the same brain child, and it has amazing gameplay and story.
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Who won the Ramzabowl?
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how do i get good at War of the Lions?

its my first tactic game, but i cant do shit, i alway get my shit wrecked in the game start
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>>258263807

Always try to attack from the sides/from behind
If you have nothing really useful to do, don't do anything and skip the turn. That makes said character's turn come around faster.
Chemists are your best friends, they toss you potions and keep you healed from afar. just make sure the enemy doesn't get too close to them
Revive units if they have 1/0 turns left before getting crystal'd.
ALWAYS STOCK UP ON ITEMS. This is important.
Equipment reflects your hit points. Keep updating your equipment periodically so you don't get outclassed
Also remember to try out different classes. Knights are stronk as tanks, archers are generally useful once they get bows and mages are useful for damaging multiple targets and such.

You can always check out the tutorial. It explains things in depth and you can learn the rest from there
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>>258264740

thks anon
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>>258264740
Why are there so many blondes?
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>>258265635
yurop setting?
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>>258265062

Another useful tip I forgot to mention was getting the Squire skill that increases the amount of JP you get from actions. That will be very useful in the long run.
Also remember to learn skills once you get enough JP to get them. The learnt skills stay with your character forever and you can port them to other classes (you can make a white mage that fights with fists if you use Brawler from the monk, you can also equip your mages with shields if you use Equip Shield from knights, etc.)

This game's not that hard. Just keep playing and try out a lot of different classes and keep restocking on items/equipment.
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>obtain the darkknight job
>delevel as bard to lv 1
>level up as dark knight to 100
>delevel again as bard to 1
>levelupto darkknight again
>solo every mission
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I stopped playing when I got to the main story fight where someone was decked out entirely in Genji armor. I could easily kill him, but I wanted his armor.

Is there nowhere else to get it, or should I just forget about it? I'd like to get back to the game, but I'm wondering if the Genji armor is even worth it.
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>>258265975
Sounds like so much fun
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>>258266246

It took me around 2-3 hours not counting the ones i wasted getting the dark knight job, but it was worth it
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get a save editor and set all the JP requirements to 0
grinding in a tactics game is so backwards
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A question for the general thread. I am also playing WotL, but on an emu. Is there any way to fix that god awful audio sync? I still don't know how the game got shipped like that.
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>>258255048
>Not sure about in War of the Lions (gave up midway due to slo-mo gameplay and an "improved" old-English translation that somehow managed to be MORE incomprehensible than the original)

the PSP version is superior for pseudo-Elizabethan English alone. It's a much better match for the game's formal tone. Then again, I was only one in my high school English class who could even remotely understand Shakespeare.
yes, I'm a liberal arts fag bite me.
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>>258262718

my main gripe with ffta? cant have dual wield guns as a mog, fuck you square
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>max out chemist and get dual wielding from Ninja
>make character monk
>repeat for next character

game won
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>>258266885
Why would you need dual wielding if you were a monk?
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>>258255245
>Because of him
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>>258267479
Even if you fuck up and don't have a backup save, you should at the very least have auto potion on Ramza. With that, some hi-potions, and spamming yell, this fight can be broken easily enough, and that's pretty much as basic as it gets. Even if you're best compatability with Wiegraf (which means he takes over half your health each hit), if you're monk with auto potion it's easy.

But if you don't have auto potion or anything else game breaking, you're fucked.
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>>258267479
Beating wiegraf is satisfying as hell, and you get Orlando bloom like three missions later
>gun toting chemist ramza
>spam yell until your speed is maximum
>pop pop pop watchin mothafuckas drop
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>>258267478

I like to 2-hand my fists as a monk
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>>258267479
only if you are a lowlevel retard
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Which tactics game is the best? I've been meaning to play one since I only played Advanced.

I'd be willing to play Advanced again if it's the best since I hardly remember it.
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>>258267478

>Not wanting to overkill everything that dares to even look at you funny
>Not wanting to overkill red choco0bos with your fists
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>>258264740
>knights
>strong

What?

>mfw find out how to use calculator

OP,
chemist maxed out = healer
monk + ninja skill for double hit = OP
calculator = OP
4th, ramza

You cannot go wrong with this combination.
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>>258267478

you punch twice. its bretty stronk
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>>258268052
I'd go with Tactics: WOTL unless you like judges and >Marche
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>play through tactics advance on the GBA and enjoy it for what it was
>get addicted to it
>get Tactics on my Vita recently
>not motivated enough to go through it

Why is that? I mean, it's the same as advance but with a story line I actually like and respect.

What gives? Why don't I feel motivated?
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>>258261834
FFTA would be 10/10 if there wasn't any kind of retarded judge and law system. You can easily bypass the shitty laws for any given day but walking on the map but it's still stupid.
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>>258261834
>>258260567
W-wh-what's wrong with >It's escapism. It's not healthy
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>>258266646
Really could use some help on this guys. It's holding me back from ever finishing this game.
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>>258267479

Run around screaming bloody murder like a dragonball Z episode for about 80 turns
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>>258268262
Oh shit, I didn't know that. I should try that next time I pick it up.
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is learning equip swords for a monk a good idea?

what about wear heavy armor?
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I don't want this thread to die. I'm about to start another playthrough, what should I make Ramza into?
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>>258269352

make him a white mage, dual wield ninja fists
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>>258269682

>hired units

have you ever fought those hobos you find in random battles? hire those
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Every jrpg I've played recently, theyALWAYS seem to take jabs at religion (Christianity in particular)

Does Japan hate Christianity or something?
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Level Thief early on. Steal: Weapon is so fucking OP even if it is a small chance to win. Maybe I'm just lucky but 3% chance of success seemed to happen quite a few times for me against even powerful enemies
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>>258269949
It's because religion as a whole is a fascinating subject, where ideologies can be pushes upon the masses and abused by people in power.

You should try studying a history of religions.
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>>258269949
Anybody with a brain and some education knows that religion is just a method to control the masses.
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>>258269949
Christianity in Japan is what Greek and Norse gods are to westerners
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>>258270467
*hair blows silently in the wind*
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>>258271331
I'm bald though.
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>>258271441
*blows silently in the wind*
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>>258269949
Relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLhiWw3pzQk
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>>258268306
because TA is a better game
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Every time I start this game I get stuck at some point in chapter 1

How do I cheese this piece of shit
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>>258273065
You read the thread you fucking asshole
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>>258268258
what would you put with that chemist though?
i like maxing out geologists then you can stand anywhere and hit multiple enemies with 0 mp skills.
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>>258254412
Why not make ALL of your party members a monk?
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>>258273801
>geologists
You mean geomancers
Still need to do a geo only run
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>>258268262
Did not know that.

I'm gonna do this + armor breaker gunner
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Can you give a new some advice on Tactics Ogre?
This is my first sRPG next to FE series and I am kind of overwhelmed by all this class shit and wahtnot.

What should I learn early?
What do I spend my jewgolds on?
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>>258262718

>that roof level where the assassins kill the guest character all the time

I hated that shit too. Seems like the only way to beat it is to make your best character a ninja and hope that your turn comes first.
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>First FA tacitcs game was the GBA one
>Spent around 30 hours on that shit
>Lost savefile since I was messing around on my PSP
>New Game, spent 15 hours unlocking all the advance classes, didn't even beat Chapter 1 yet
>Lost all incentive to play it

>Found out about the original FFT
>Download it on my iPhone (To play on the go, I could have used the PSP but that shit is too big for my pocket, was worth it despite the controls)
>Was on Chapter 3 or 4 I think, the part where you can recruit the FFTA guy in the desert
>Sold iPhone because the reselling price is crazy and I needed it for college money

>Star up FFT on my PSP
>No incentive to play it

sigh
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>>258275694
pick one weapon type per person and stick to it
Canopus is godly with a bow, I usualy keep him with a one handed bow and a one handed axe
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>>258269949

>tfw cant call on religion bullshit anymore without someone replying with fedoras or "OW the edge" these days

what the fuck happened.
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