So P3P is not worth playing at all? I like Persona on the go but they supposedly butchered the immersion and story badly in this and made up for it by letting you play as a female protagonist that's not even canon.
its a visual novel version of persona 3 vanilla, but still keep the dungeon grinding for some reason.
persona 3 fes is actually a game and has a whole extra mode after the ending with more story/grinding.
Gonna have to disagree with you there chum. The VN style cutscenes ruin the game for me and all the difficulty is sucked right out the window by being able to control the party. If they had bothered to rebalance the game to account for this change, you'd be right. But they didn't and it makes the game painfully easy even on maniacs difficulty.
You can walk around normally outside of dungeons. There is no quick travel, its fucking tedious as shit. Cannot control party members in combat, hope they don't fuck you over
You are a dot on the screen, so no free movement outside of dungeons. Quick travel. You can control party members in combat
>non-canon fanfic-tier route
Gr8 b8 m8
Great usage of the word in this instance champ
>cut content from FES overall, and never rebalanced the game for full party control accordingly
P3P was the first Persona game I played because I was
pirating top rated PSP games
Sank tons of time into multiple playthroughs.
VN cutscenes weren't as great as having animated scenes, but if you're really all about muh cinematics, watch the movies.
Also, getting around the city with fast travel is so convenient holy shit
>Control party members in battle
Game wasn't exactly developed with that in mind. It becomes a lot easier when you're not fighting against both enemies and party members' assholish AI.
I thought the fast travel made everything feel so small and closed off. I never felt inconvenienced by having to walk somewhere in FES, but that's just me I guess. If you play RPGs for instant gratification, you're a person I truly do not comprehend.
>people ITT actually preferring the grindy bullshit that was The Answer to the option of playing as an enormous slut
Is this real life
>plays the exact same way except for the lack of character models outside dungeons
>"not actually a game"
>has better SLinks and is a more interesting character overall
Chie is a fucking slut. Just imagine the amount of sausage she had between those lips. She was probably the town bike before you came around and she was instantly lusting after your salami next.
Her phonenumber is probably all over public toilets with the annotation that she's willing to do anything for a beefbowl.
And remember those 3 guys from her S rank? As soon as you enter the train to go back home those guys probably rape her and NTR the shit out of her, turning her into a sexslave so they don't have to pay for the meat to take turns on her
Persona 3 Golden when?
Also, for all the people who complain about the lack of free movement in P3P, I would be willing to bet that we all made heavy use of the instant movement menu in P4G.
Objectively implies there's no way of arguing anything but P3P is the best version of the game when that's clearly not true you mongoloid
>it's objectively the best version of the game even though it's gimped by the console's limitations and missing content already included in an earlier version of the game!
>prefers FemC to MC
Cancer until the end
Youre early, the waifu wars hadnt started yet, but i like that youre enthusiastic though.
>man, I hate Japan
>Oh, look, this place is called 4chan
>they probably hate Japan too
Don't fall for this OP.They didn't butcher jack shit.What FES has that p3p doesn't besidesThe Answer is some REALLY SHITTY 3 d models that ACTUALLY break immersion a lot on their own by acting all animey when the characters are kinda normal.
P3P is more interesting for a first run imo,you can always emulate FES later for the answer.
It's noticeable in P3P that the visual gags are missing and they aren't replaced with any narration. Walking in the city in FES feels comfy but it's missing from P3P. The story is one of the major parts in P3 and FES brings it out better.
If you don't care about the story and just want to play a dungeon crawler then P3P works better.
Sometimes I'm just fapping, so it takes me a few minutes to actually post it
It's probably best to play when you're already a Persona fan.
>they supposedly butchered the immersion and story badly
The immersion being lost is overstated, and there's nothing different about the story.
>made up for it by letting you play as a female protagonist that's not even canon.
Canon in her own story. Just like the New Game+ alternate endings for the MC are canon to his particular story.
Btw, if you enjoy the social interaction in Persona, then playing as FemC is almost like a new game.
The game doesn't have The Answer, but that is definitely not something to be held against it.
It was the first Persona I finished after I dropped FES because I hated the noncontrollable party and running around town. Yeah it makes the battles easy, but if your game's difficulty hinges on whether Mitsuru uses Marin Karin or decides to actually heal you, the combat is shit to begin with. Also I got to play as a cute girl and polish Akihiko's punching bags so win/win.
I just beat Golden, should I play P3P or FES?
or should I get SMT:IV for 3DS or emulate Nocturne? This was my first Fatlus game besides Catherine and I adored everything about it
>Just like the New Game+ alternate endings for the MC are canon to his particular story.
No they aren't though, A big part of The Answer (Which I doubt you even played) is that Aigis was with him in the ending.
I didn't realize so many people hated walking around in P3.
I had no problem with it at all
>casuals shitting on The Answer even though it gave some genuine character development, closure and some of the best closing battles and music in the series
The problem with the answer is that the plot is contained within the first 5% and the last 10%. The vast majority of the game is lazy padding. You'll spend twenty hours grinding, killing a dozen bosses, without any plot development whatsoever.
4chan isn't even 11 yet, faggot. Also,
>Not knowing what weeb means.
>Thinking it's exclusively for them.
If you think that the whole of 4chan hasn't been flavored by Japanese culture and media for it's entire existence, then you're an idiot.
Can we all stop arguing for a second and post pictures of best girl?
What we really need is another P3P
Persona 3 Platinum
FES's visuals, FemC, and The Answer
Maybe some extra shit too
I sure loved grinding for thirty hours before finally getting to Heartful Cry and the good part of the game
If you just beat Golden, then trying to play FES will be like having your teeth pulled out. Play P3P.
>No they aren't though, A big part of The Answer (Which I doubt you even played) is that Aigis was with him in the ending.
Wow, you're not just a faggot, but a stupid faggot. I said that the endings are canon for that story. That particular story.
And obviously I've cleared the Answer because I gave my opinion on it. And so did Atlus when they deemed it entirely unnecessary to include with the definitive version of Persona 3.
And just in case that's not clear enough: The Answer is spoonfed explanations, inapropos background dumps, contrived drama, grinding horseshit.
Door-chan's are better since all the party members get one
That and the Shinjiro link goes out of its way to be about SEES as a group and not just him
It really helps SEES feel more like a cohesive unit
Of course we can.
Aigis is best girl. Mitsuru is good too though.
>not playing P3P and getting the Mitsuru ending
Nigga you jokin? The unbalanced, underpowered port that was barely even spell checked, didn't have models or animated cutscenes, a feature every other game in the series had. I can't believe anyone thinks this is anymore than a cheap fanservice cash grab like the Golden Animation.
>If you just beat Golden, then trying to play FES will be like having your teeth pulled out. Play P3P.
Bullshit. I played P4G first and FES is my favourite Persona game
>And so did Atlus when they deemed it entirely unnecessary to include with the definitive version of Persona 3.
Yes, definitely not due to the constraints of UMDs or anything. Why do you think the entire game's a visual novel outside of Tartarus?
You were asking for Fuuka, right?
>The Answer is spoonfed explanations, inapropos background dumps, contrived drama, grinding horseshit.
It's still canon
It's not really important or changes how we view the characters at all. After heading in to the Abyss, nothing develops until you fight NotMinato, and that's like 20+ hours in.
So is PQ and Dance all Night. Get fucked.
Femc is pretty much the only reason to play P3P over FES unless you don't have a ps2/3 or PC strong enough to emulate it. And it had some nice Fan-service, but should be played after playing normal MC.
You aren't ready for Nocturne yet.
It is nothing like Persona.
>play through FES
>don't give a shit about Yukari or Aigis
>Chihiro and eventually Mitsuru are my main gals
>In January and game is pushing Aigis in my face
>fuck you I'm on the Mitsuru train
>end of game
>Aigis was the most important after all
>play the Answer
>Aigis was even closer to you than we thought!
>Yukari and you loved each other
>though I barely ever interacted with her... okay...
>she'll kill everyone to rekindle your relationship
>wait what, I never even
>Mitsuru's on her side
>But Mitsuru loved Minato! She'd never...
And people wonder why Atlus dropped the Answer from P3P.
You're damn right you can
Try FES. Nocturne may be too much for you right now - it's not as easy and intuitive as personas.
I beat portable several times because it's running flawlessly on android, it's great game but fes will tell story way better, game will be way more atmospheric with cutscenes and shit.
(god, just imagine persona 3 without first cutscene. that's sad)
I had Daisojou on my party so health was never a problem.
He also had Tarakukaja and Makakaja.
I breezed through Beelzerine and Betatron.
The fiends and Noah were the only ones to kick my shit in sometimes.
Oh and those faggots hanging out in Masakado's temple.
I can throw in an Izanami if you want to
>Yukari is a bitch (again)
>Everyone except Junpei, Fuuka, and the dog go FULL FUCKING RETARD
>Take several hours to come to an agreement on a situation that anyone with a shred of common sense could figure out
I want those 15 hours of my life back
But it being definitively canon basically says that Persona 3 isn't a game; it's a novel, and if you played it any way but the way we wanted your experience is wrong.
I know that. But imagine you'd maxed out Mitsuru's link and had gotten Yukari's to maybe two or something and here Mitsuru is pandering Yukari's needs to go back you Minato. It's very disconcerting and disappointing, and not what I was hoping for after all that mind numbing grinding.
other than that I don't have much more I think
Yukari being a turbobitch is actually given explanation since she'd do anything just to be able to see MC one more time and was a perfect example of how intense emotion can overshadow peoples' rationality; i.e. characters are flawed and make lousy decisions. I disliked Yukari right up until the end of The Answer, where I felt I understood her a lot more.
New rumor going around where people disappear, Kanami does, Rise asks for Protag's help, so he reforms the IT.
I feel like the P4 crew is just going to be a constant backdrop in future Persona games, for better or worse. Solving mysteries in their psychedelic van.
I understand anon. Nobody wants pictures of worst girl on his computer. Just imagine your parents finding out you have such horrible taste once you die. They will be disappointed.
>After P4G, FES will basically feel like Hard Mode
More specifically, FAKE Difficulty mode.
Muh nigger, played that shit on my android riding on the bus.
>Watch The Answer cutscenes on youtube
>tfw wish I had done that instead of wasting my time
>Solving mysteries in their psychedelic van.
I would actually very much love a game where the P4 cast, having graduated high school, spends their time driving around in the Mystery Machine solving supernatural crimes
Who cares if she isn't canon? Her route is much better than MCs
>mfw I'm level 77 with no Freikugel or Pierce.
>mfw i discarded Focus.
I'm working on Freikugel right now.I know i fucked up.
I also made a Trumpeter,im disappoint he heals the person with least health and not everyone.
Should i play NG+ for TDE or should i play with my old save before TOK?
>The only retard in the Answer was Mitsuru, since she didn't even have a good reason for what she was doing.
Yukari was ready to doom the earth in order to see Minato again. The same Minato she had spoken to maybe twice ever outside of cutscenes in my playthrough. She came across as a fucking lunatic.
>female protagonist that's not even canon.
>Game with a silent, nameless character.
>Worrying about "canon".
It didn't feel like that to me,
because i picked the right girl.
They will probably never pull out stuff like that again.Like you said it ruins the experience if you picked someone else.What is the point of naming your character then?
>The Answer feels like hard mode
Lawdy lawd no. It's grind mode. As artificially enhanced as Lolo Ferrari's tits.
But they've been pushing a real name and voice for the P3 protag for a while now. And considering the canonical nature of both Arenas, the existence of the P3 protag is integral to the many of the characters plot, and they all refer to that person as a him.
>because i picked the right girl.
The why do you have a picture of... ohhh... you're one dem crazy folks.
Why haven't you played Eternal Punishment yet?
>But they've been pushing a real name and voice for the P3 protag for a while now
Which is why I love them changing it everytime they get the goddamn chance.
Why would you interrupt? Do you want to be next?
>Some things change.
>So everything has to.
Nah. There was no policy change, and no reason to change, so I'll continue to use the site as I've always enjoyed doing, just as everyone who loves Japanese media will.
Both Persona and Nocturne are great.It would be foolish and childish not to play the other SMT games.
In Nocturne i have fun fighting the enemies while P3/P4 i would quickly as possible try to reach the top/end of the dungeon.
P3 was good and fun sometimes but i hate P4 dungeons,i didn't even bother to level everyone up to Level 99 because i hated them.
Tldr i like the fact that P3 has everything Nocturne lacks and that Nocturne has everything P3 lacks.
It plays in another dimension or something like this. P4 happened after P3 and nobody gives a shit at that point.
In the P3 movie they had a chance to cement MC as Minato Arisato, and they pulled Makoto something or other out of their asses for no reason.
Not for p4 protag, he's officially Yu Narukami, whereas P3 MC was Makoto Yuki in the movie, and Minato Arisato in the manga. And in teaser shots for PQ he was named Minato, but they later removed that. So he has no real official name.
And it's not a Persona 3 thing, the same thing happens in the drama CDs and novelizations/manga for Atlus games going back to SMT1. Hell, the Demifiend has three canon names.
The PVs for Persona Q use "Minato" but you can input the names for both protagonists at the beginning.
I think "Makoto Yuki" will be the canon name in following games.
Yeah; it makes me like Ryoji more.
Look at Robin in FE. S/he didn't have an official name until Nintendo needed one for Smash, and they stuck with what people knew.
They chose Robin because it was the default name when you make a character, and it works for both Genders. Not just because a lot of people knew it. It's like how you can rename Tatsuya, but the default and canon name is Tatsuya.
It being there is only mechanically different from it not being there in Persona games. We just go online and look up the standard fan name/semi-canon name. It's just an added step with no effect.
Then what did he do?
What is the ultimate sin?
wait am i being tricked again?
>tfw listening to this during the nest friends Nuzlocke finale
The true best song:
However when persona 4 and persona 3 first came out, there was no standard or default name, unlike Awakening, and people would only know the name Yu Narukami or Minato or Souji because it's from the mangas/animes. They weren't well known fan names, or mentioned in the games at all.
So it was just a tease?
Hijiri kinda looks like Aleph with the long hair and all.Also YHVH telling Aleph that he will pay for the Ultimate sin and then having Hijiri in 3 suffering because he committed the Ultimate sin kinda made sense.
I guess Hijiri wasn't a piece of shit after all.
Right after their top ten lists of 2013.
I love the velvet room.
How was Teddie able to enter the Velvet room? Is he pic related?
More like it was Kaneko's artstyle, and people jumped to conclusions based on what you just said.
It helps if you realize that Nocturne was conceived as a spin-off called "Vortex World", and not a part of the mainline until later in production. Sort of the reverse of what happened to SJ.
Fuck you Mot, you were a pain in the ass until I figured out your gimmick.
Quality aside, it's fairly funny and Narukami is a good character, as opposed to no character at all in-game. Golden animation has its highlights, but thanks to its focus on Marie /v/ tends to get really rustled when it's mentioned.
>Game with actual Kaneko designs gets shafted because muh Tokyo
Truly these are awful times we live in
No faggots beaten by the power of friendship are allowed here.
Don't diss SMT4 too hard; it was a love letter to the first game. If they keep on like this, they'll make one to SMT2 next, and fix up most of the problems from the predecessor.
Isamu is moe.
Isamu likes to be alone,
because no one wants to be close to Isamu.
Did anyone else buy it legit?
That battle theme was so badass, all the bossfights in p4 combined didn't feel close to how good the nyx avatar fight was.
I liked fighting Izanami because Nyx was really weak.
My only complaint too. Nyx Avatar should have been tougher.
>Can't fuck Council President
>Can't fuck Junpei thanks to Ms. Lolita Cuts-Herself
I loved FeMC and her mode, but my virtual vagina wanted way more cock than it got.
we need a strong brown waifu in P5, no lazy sluts
>I loved FeMC and her mode, but my virtual vagina wanted way more cock than it got.
Seconded. Junpei being spoken for by the emo-chick was a big oversight. They gave you a pedo shota route with Ken, but no romance option for Junpei? My FeMC wanted to rock his world.
Still though, Shinji, Theo and Akihiko aren't bad.
Don't listen to /v/, FES is outdated
>Can't change party member equipment from the menu
>No defend option
>Can't control party members, have to watch them do retarded actions like attack the same enemy twice instead of all of them so an All Out Attack can be performed
>No quick navigation
>Party members constantly get exhausted
Its missing cutscenes and the answer, that's it.
And I know the fade to black "you spent a long time with x" scenes are always somewhat ambiguous, but P3P took it to a whole new level with shit like, "You held hands with Ken".
I'll give you the first two.
>Can't control party members, have to watch them do retarded actions like attack the same enemy twice instead of all of them so an All Out Attack can be performed
Do you even Knock Down?
>No quick navigation
A student in your classroom brings up the world map when you talk to him.
>Party members constantly get exhausted
And that's the "it's time to stop exploring for the day" sign.
Making up for bad party mechanics with one good bit doesn't fly.
>student in classroom brings up world map
That's a lot of help when I'm at the shrine and I want to fast travel to one of the malls
>And that's the "it's time to stop exploring for the day" sign
The grinding game is telling me to stop grinding? Fuck that, I'm in the mood, and I don't care what Tartaros wants.
Why do we get Toasters and Animals as party members but not Animaltoasters?
lol memes! But seriously, this game did not satisfy my desire for hot dickings.
Junpei: Can't date
Ken: You don't get to do lewd things with him because he's a kid
Shinji: Coma sex
Theodore: Puts it in the wrong hole and pretends he meant to
Bebe: Can't date
Hidetoshi: Can't date
Mutasu: Can't be his special little girl
Tanaka: Can't be whored out by him to all of his business contacts
Akinari: Can't take his virginity before he dies
Akihiko is your only real boyfriend, and he's so awkward he never makes a move on you.
>P3P fags actually think their version is the best
>Theodore: Puts it in the wrong hole and pretends he meant to
>Using a Yukari image and expecting your opinion to be taken seriously
>Mutasu: Can't be his special little girl
You do recall his whole S Link was about getting him back with his estranged family?
Getting him involved with a teen whore would probably not have impressed them.
When I play a turn based RPG, I prefer to have full control over how my team attacks/defends/heals.
If i want Yukari to do a wind attack on a specific enemy, I damn well better be able to do that.
That's why you go with Aigis and Elizabeth, who lets you touch her heartpussy and has sex with you after the date, respectively.
>not going full /u/
Well shit. I never picked Elizabeth as the attendant when I played as FemC.
I suggest playing P3P as female before P3:FES as the only male option simply so that when you play P3P it doesn't feel like a step down. P3:FES to P3P you'd notice the step down, do it in reverse and it feels like a step up.
Hey nothing happened yet, At least I wait to spam aspect raidou
>Persona 5 comes out
>the final plot line follows P5's mc helping elizabeth with something
>get to the end
>we're about to rescue the MC and find another way to keep Nyx out!
>get to seal
>it's not the MC
>it's the FeMC
>elizabeth x FeMC lesbian kissing as credits roll
your face when
>You saved me from dying, fcuk you your to late (Any later the lce snake would have gone up his ass or some shit)
>Hey you like my reason (said yes because of the lols later) cool we friends again
>Hey kills this guy who has at least been ok to you (He tripped at the end but he was helpful)
>Why are you not joining my reason
This twat at the girl
killing Futomimimade TDE so much more satisfying
>The real big bad steps in when you free the FeMC
P4 protag jumps in and saves you from a fatal BRO
>burn my dread final battle edition plays during the final battle where the BROTAG FeMC AND P5's new MC GO ALL OUT AND COMBINE THEIR PERSONA INTO FINAL FOOOORRRRMMM
My face is dicks of diamond
All P3P had to do was use the existing 3d character models (which already exist for the main characters due to battle mode) on pre-rendered backdrops.
But no. It had to be a bunch of boring stills staring at you.
because I want to be able to spend more time with my pikachu, traveling through the lands n shit
It's ok anon I now understand your hardships, now go through the land, travel far and wide
Well, thank you. I'm gonna train her right now.
Is P3:FES any kind of difficult to adapt to if you've only played P4G? I'd imagine it isn't, but when you're used to things like having full party control and being able to choose a Persona's moveset manually I still kinda wonder.