Can we get a Smash Bros positivity thread? No whining, no complaining, just things you like about Smash Bros?
Give me your thoughts.
Oh boy! A Smash thread meant to promote fun and togetherness? Allow me to ruin it!
*Ahem* I enjoy Project: M more than Super Smash Bros. Melee.
Thanks, Strong Bad. Now we can't have a good thread!
I would not even consider brawl a game but a consumer experience with highly regulated Nerf bats
The fact that the trophy collection is supposed to be absolutely massive between both games is probably my favourite news so far. Even though I really do care about the mechanical aspects of the game, it's the amount of content I'm most excited for. It's why I liked Brawl more than people say I should: The amount of content made it totally worthwhile. I don't care about having the roster for Smash 4 spoiled as it'll just get me more hyped, I'm just hoping to keep info on stuff like music, trophies, and other Nintendo references intact for when I discover them.
>mfw all of Mega Mans alts are based on weapon colors and all his customizable moves are weapons from the series
WHY DID THEY CUT SNAKE, WAH
also some Advance Wars music would be nice instead of just the one trophy.
It actually took me until a few weeks ago that the title, when spoken, could be "Smash 4"
It's actually kind of a brilliant title.
I still would have preferred Kerfuffle or Rumble or Donnybrook or something though.
Final Destination, all Battlefield iterations, Dreamland, Fountain of Dreams, Smashville, and Corneria. There are a few others, these are just my absolute favorites.
Grabs are extremely fun to do, especially chain grabs.
Who do you folks main?
Ness, Samus, and Mario. Sometimes Kirby, but not as much as the others.
Ness, Samus, Mario, and Kirby. Also a bit of G&W and Falcon
Ness, Samus, R.O.B., Lucas, and Kirby. Never really played as Mario when it came out.
Ness, Samus, R.O.B., Kirby, Meta Knight, Donkey Kong, and Wario.
I haven't played any of the Smash games since the original. What's the point of trophies aside from collecting? I remember seeing them in my friend's copy of Melee but they didn't do anything that I remember.
When I heard Miis were in, I was hoping for a moveset based on games they starred in, like Tomodachi Life, the Streetpass games, the Wii series, etc. and have the customizeability be aesthetic (And maybe do a height/weight thing like in MKWii). What they did was even cooler, and I'm glad little references like the Mii Force ship made it in too.
FUCK YEAH I hope this thread is good, there's two other Smash Whining threads up right now and I want to actually talk about the games instead
I like N64 Hyrule Temple, Great Bay, Fountain of Dreams, Temple, Warioware and Castle Seige
Using PK Thunder on yourself
The Gourmet Race arrangement from Fountain of Dreams, both the Mother songs from Melee, anything from Metal Gear
Motion sensor bomb, pitfall trap
Any F zero stage
Pokemon stadium 1
Mushroom Kingdom 2
Shadow Moses Island
Ganondorf's side b in brawl (goes through shields)
Ike's 3 hit combo
Fire Emblem (melee)- best song in series
Any F zero music
Boss Battle 1 (subspace emissary)
I love how melee will straight up call u a bitch nigga coward
New Pork City
sure why not
Kongo Jungle, Halberd, Norfair, Pictochat, Delfino Plaza, Rainbow Cruise, Fourside City
PK Flash, Giant Swing, Egg Toss, Wolf's Side B, Rock Smash
Literally every track in Brawl
Sticky bombs and motion sensors
Board the Platforms, Giant Mode through special mode,
Alright guys, real talk.
Smash 64's bonus theme > Melee's bonus theme > Brawl's bonus theme
Metal Fight > Multi-Man Melee 1 > Brawl's Multi-Man Brawl
Mewtwo (I was a huge fan of the first Pokemon movie)
I'm not too big of a fan of tourneys or playing Smash seriously, but I personally enjoy the new characters in Project M, even if they are just vets.
Well i'm fucking glad characters scream when hit hard just like in SSB 64 and Melee, hearing the yells of your opponents going for a certain death was so satisfying.
Pokefloats. I really hope there's a Pokefloats 2.
There is nothing more satisfying than sweet-spotting Luigi's super jump punch.
Getting off a fully-charged eruption with Ike is pretty great, too.
SAVE THE PLANET FROM DISASTER
I like the bumper. It's the best item for combos.
Home run contest is always fun. I really like running through classic mode and all-star mode, too.
>>tfw the characters you really really want aren't on this bingo
it just means they werent even worth considering
>Also replace a character that's already an assist trophy with Sceptile.
no way, we're so close
Here's what I was talking about.
The best moves in all smash bros games are undoubtedly suplex grabs.
Fox or Jiggly, though i can play as anyone and have a bunch of fun and still do competently.
PEACH, Fox, Jiggly, Shiek, and C.Falcon, though, i can play as anyone and have a bunch of fun and still do competently.
Wolf, SNACKS, Diddy, Fox, Jiggly, PEACH, Olimar, though i can play as anyone and have a bunch of fun and still do competently.
PEACH, Fox, Falco, Pit, Lucas, BOWSER, Yoshi, Luigi, SNACK, though, i can play as anyone and have a bunch of fun and still do competently.
When you don't have friends and 4+ years of clocked in game time on melee, you stop having mains.
Also, best stage is
yoshi's island, and if you disagree, you're shit at the game.
Keep practicing with characters you want to be good with, play with friends of similar skill level, or cpus if no one is around. Don't forget to have fun with it all, it shouldn't be a chore but a fun learning experience.
Fountain of Dreams and Delfino Plaza.
The menu themes, and that Golden Sun remix.
Beam Sword, Motion Tracker Bombs
Snake and Ike
Only one question because i havent been keeping up with the news. Does the momentum of your running speed carry over to your jumps or is it still non existent for whatever reason (christ almighty why?) like brawl?
I tried playing Marth, I never got the hang of him. He's always been kinda off. I played Ike in Brawl but can't really play him effectively in PM. I've been trying other characters to spice things up a bit, I think I'm too used to Brawl.
I never could into Marth, but FUCK is Ike satisfying to play as in Brawl. Literally everything he does has KO power. I know I'm not a very good player when it comes down to it, but I can wreck shit with him in 4 player FFAs.
I'm used to using a lot of Nair and Jab with Ike with some Fair and Bair as well. Other moves too, but they're less common. I think I just miss being able to potentially do 24% damage with just my jab.
Why can't /v/ be like this all the time? Everyone seems so friendly!
Also, if there was a MH3U rep on SSB4, what would you like?
Jay Leno as an assist
Please be joking. PLEASE be joking.
Why the FUCK are people hyped for this shit? Guys that's enough. After other m, sticker star, brawl, skyward sword, star fox command, region locking etc etc, i can't defend nintendo anymore. Guess i'll have to wait for project M2. Fuck everything.
His air moves have some pretty fantastic range, so that's why. Plus that Nair combos into Jab or Bair sometimes, it's pretty useful. That said, I use Up Smash a decent amount for killing.
I'm just glad we've gotten as much positivity as we have. Smash threads on /v/ are so toxic, I hoped we could get something different for once.
This place could be nice if people tried at it.
no, seriously, this stage is the best.
My strategy is entirely forward smash, up smash, neutral combo, down air, Eruption.
Aether and Quick Draw when I need to recover.
Eruption is probably the unsung hero of Ike's moveset for me. It might not work to well in 1v1, but it's fucking amazing in four-way or 2v2 matches. It's the only non-final smash one-hit K.O. move in the game.
I guess so, but you have to agree that removing the momentu from your moving speed into your jumps is not defendable. Like, it was in the very first platformer, it.. just doesnt make sense. I heard it's because of the wii remote not having a joystick or something. Anyway, i hope the wii u get's a homebrew channel soon.
If this is legit, do you think having an AI buddy could make Pichu not suck in Project M?
If people ignore shitposting, it's always like that. I hope people will ignore those baits in the future. I think it's because of that one guy in a thread yesterday about robin williams claiming that he is responsible for 90% of the shitpost memes and threads in general and people just stopped replying all-around.
He is right but he put it too harshly. Of course people like mew2king know more about the mechanics of melee than sakurai himself. Sakurai made the game in 16~ months, and m2k has been playing the shit out of it for 13 years. He has literally over 20.000 hours into it.
Ike's dash attack, tilts, forward and neutral airs are also really good, you should try incorporating them into your strategy, friend.
>Wishing death upon someone because they made a sequel to your favorite game that didn't live up to your expectations.
This is some Donte level edge.
It's weird. Dan Hibiki, an intentionally weak character in a traditional fighting game, gets loved, while Pichu, an intentionally weak character in an alternative fighting game, is hated.
What's the deal with it?
Then you didn't play melee. It's as basic as it gets and it removes a LOT of move potential which means it removes a lot of fun. You cant even do stuff like this
Which means c falcon is going to be shit in smash bros 4, too. Kinda sad.
Hyrule 64, Kongo Jungle 64, Sector Z, Fountain of Dreams, Mute City, Spear Pillar
Falcon Punch, Roy's counter, Kirby 64's grabs
Fighting Polygon Team music, Yoshi's Island 64, Fountain of Dreams, Mute City, alternate Melee menu, a shitton more but I can't be bothered to list them
64 bumpers ,beam sword, and hammer, Melee pokeballs, Brawl assist trophies
Board the Platforms. Please return to SSB4.
Kirby and Link
Marth, Falcon, Jiggs, a bit of Pikachu
Ike, Snake, Link, Lucario, Marth not nearly as much as in melee
Marth, Ike, Falcon, Pikachu
Dan has a sort of character to him. All of his moves are comically weak, and he was basically a fuck you to SNK. Besides, it's not like he's a complete copy of Ryu like Pichu.
Pichu is part of a package of 5 or so other clones that were rushed in to pad out the roster. Pichu was also basically meant to be the rep for the second generation of Pokemon, so having a comically weak clone for its rep is a bit insulting.
Can I just say how happy I am to see Pac-Man in Smash 4?
Growing up, I was a huge fag for Pac-Man. Seeing Pac-Man in Smash reminds me of why I love vidya and still play it today.
As much as I goddamn hate Griffith, having that and a black alt for Ike would most likely be the hypest thing I've ever seen
Really, I'm just happy he's not using the stupid creepy-ass Ghostly Adventures design. Classic Pac is fine with me.
So PM has 4 more clone engine characters left to add and 43 slots left for Special/Extra characters. Who do you want added?
I think roster discussion of Smash 4 is pointless because there will be no more reveals until release.
I'd love to see a lot of alt. costumes, he has a lot of potential.
>Pac-Land outfit (obvious)
>Toc-Man (World/World 3)
>Golden Pac-Man (World 2)
>Pac-Man Party/Ghostly Adventures (It might happen)
With a sense of nostalgia, Mute City. Experiencing that for the first time as a 10 year-old shithead that cracked out on F-Zero X before that, it was an amazing feeling.
Otherwise, I say Corneria.
The GX tracks in Port Town
Fan. Just fan.
As far as costumes go, I think there are a lot of important ones we need before Pacman gets one.
>Dr. Mario (Dr. Luigi?)
>Link/Zelda/Ganondorf designs from OOT, Hyrule Warriors, or something else
>Toon Link conductor outfit (no reason to not be in, really, since it appears on the Spirit Train stage anyway)
>Classic Fox (since people seem to hate modern Fox for some reason)
And I'm sure others will come up later.
Let's talk alts. What kind of alts could other characters have?
Ike: Instead of Ragnell, he wields an axe... most likely never going to happen, and maybe PoR Ike if we're lucky
Samus: Pretty much self-explanitory if Sakurai decided to put some effort in for once
Mario: Dr. Mario, Wing-Cap, etc.
Luigi: Mr. L, or whatever it was called (never played PM, sorry)
Peach: Daisy, Rosa skin, Queen Shadow, etc
Marth: Roy, Ephiram
Lucina: Lyn, Erika
Anything else? There's probably a shit ton I'm missing
I love Brawl's Smashville on Saturdays, rocking it to K.K. Cruisin', four players and smacking down with Samus or Peach. I wondered if there was ever going to be a reason to come back to Brawl, and after seeing the new Town and City, I guess I found my reason. It's a little thing, but switching between the two areas in the new map kind of retracts from the calmness that Smashville had, and the abundance of platforms just makes it look like a shitty 2 stop Delfino or something. Darn it, Sakurai.
I'm even happier.
When Brawl mentioned 3rd parties Pac-Man was one of my most wanted characters. Having played the games in my childhood, he was definitely in my top five.
Seeing him in solidified my purchase. Can't wait.
That's true, but I don't wanna wait till Project B, you know?
Doc Mario and L are really high up on my list
- Doctor Mario
- Doctor Luigi
- Different hairstyle villagers
- Mr. L
- Outset outfits for both Links
- Different era outfits for reg. Link (OoT, TP etc)
That's some other obvious ones out of the way.
Since Pac-Man is third party, he might be getting special treatment like Mega Man, but I'll throw some ideas around for alts.
Mario- Dr. Mario, Cosmic Mario
Luigi- Mr. L, Dr. Luigi
Peach- Shadow Queen, Daisy
Bowser- Dark Bowser, Dry Bowser
Toon Link- Young Link, Vaati
Dedede- Masked Dedede
Meta Knight- Galacta Knight
Pit- Dark Pit
Mega Man- Protoman
Pac-Man- See >>257991013
Samus- Fusion Suit
Maybe Ridley, but that seems way too unlikely, especially considering they aren't even related.
Just off the top of my head.
I would kill for Galacta Knight
Also, Zora Armor alt for Link, that weird facemask thing ToonLink could wear (or his crayfish shirt), and definitely HW Ganon alts. It's a shame SoccerEye is probably going to be lazy and make it TP Ganon.
Oh, and Protoman because scarves
I remember being hyped as fuck for Pac-Man World 2. When I finally got it, it was fucking beautiful.
That game alone makes me love the guy.
I'm sure modders will make some crazy mods for Smash 4, especially considering all the female characters.
I can't wait for someone to mod Assist Trophy characters over playable ones.
Pikachu, Ness, King Dedede
Pac-Man, Pikachu, Ness, King Dedede
so after looking at all the times custom special moves have been mentioned, i've come to the conclusion that we're not going to see any that do any major changes, just stat/cosmetic changes. which is fine for projectile attacks and such, because there's all kinds of obvious changes that can be made, but what about physical attacks, like bowsers down B? what could possibly be edited about that?
DK's side B was changed to be slower, but have super armor. Marth's Shield Breaker gives him a lot of forward movement. Something like that, super armor or mobility or some other change.
they're gonna find something to do red/blue/green costumes, you know
even though they aren't required for team battles anymore they're unlikely not to have those three for every characterr
i was thinking one possibility could be the falcon punch being able to be charged and saved for later, like DK's punch or samus' charge beam, but that might be too big of a change
That WAS a damn good game, and it's a shame people don't know of it.
I was really expecting to see moves from it but Sakurai definitely took it to the next level. I can't complain.
[SPOILER]>not having new pac-man's entire face in the last alt[/spoiler]
Yeah, they have to have something with blue or green. Speaking of which, I wonder if we'll get the missus as an alt. Hopefully this rendition and not that middle-aged stewardess.
I think so, I haven't seen the footage of him since E3.
That's great, at least they acknowledge the games at least.
Adding to these.
Pikachu should get its gender difference for an alt. Cosmic, Mario Kart tracksuit, and fire flower suit for Rosalina. Super and Prime suits on Samus. A version of Meta Knight without his mask would be pretty funny.
Holding down a shield button before a fight lets you play as Giga Bowser instead of Bowser and gets rid of your partner if you're the Ice Climbers. The latter makes that anon think holding down L/R would make Pichu go solo instead of being the Pichu Bros.
>Lucina was intended to be an alt. for Marth
>This implies alts for characters that turn them into completely different characters exist
Ms. Pacman and Protoman confirmed
Are you ready?
This is what I personally want.
Tfw nobody wants to do PMU
Did anyone here go to the Bestbuy event they had earlier this year? Who did you play as and in which versions?
I only played the Wii U version, and played as Megaman for the two rounds people were allowed to play. He was really damn fun, i'm excited to play as him more.
Peach's Castle (64), Fountain of Dreams, Poke Floats, Peach's Castle (Melee), Mute City, Brinstar Depths, Castle Siege, PictoChat, Shadow Moses Island, and Halberd.
I don't really pay attention that much to moves, but Meta Knight's tornado attack is pretty cool.
Homerun Bat, definitely.
Classic, Event Mode, Break The Targets (A bit bummed that it won't be in Smash Bros. 3DS),
Dr. Mario/Beach Mario
Mr. L/Dr. Luigi
Dark Bowser/Dry Bowser
Biker Wario/Pirate Wario
Donkey Kong Jr/Cranky Kong
Ordin Link/Magic Armor
OoT Zelda/SS Zelda
OoT Ganon/WW Ganon
Outset Link/Conductor Link
Power Suit/PED Suit
Justin Bailey/Fusion Samus
Trading Card Marth
Shadow Kirby/Hypernova Kirby
Shadow Dedede/Samurai Dedede
Dark Meta Knight/Samurai Meta Knight
Ms. Pac Man
Would this work?
saffron city, metal cavern, fourside, fountain of dreams, halberd, hannenbow, pilotwings
Mewtwos float in project m
and every song from the mother series
don't have any favorites
board the platforms
>tfw we won't ever see it again
Fuck I hope they un-nerf Captain Falcon
He's way too fun and satisfying to play.
Marth, a tiny bit of Captain Falcon, thinking about picking up Falco
FD, Temple, Pokemon Stadium, I don't really have favorites, just some that I don't like
I dunno, all of Marth's and Falcon's feel good, Falco's shine
It's all good
If I play with items I'll turn on Pokeball, Baseball Bat, Flipper, and a few others I can't think of
Anything but home-run contest
yeah I'm a boring tourneyfag
Fountain of Dreams, FD, Smashville
PK thunder, G&W melee parachute
FE song in Melee, SF:Assault music on Lylat Cruise
pokeball and homerun bat of course
You missed a few friend.
>jab jab cancel to jab
>out range your opponents with ftilt and fsmashes and fair
>usmash whenever platforms are present
>edge guard with eruption or jump off fair
Day one Ike main.
please someone fix this edit to something with a little more quality.
Pokemon Stadium 1
Yoshi's Island Melee (Randal is the best)
Green Hill Zone
Fountain of Dreams (Gourmet Race)
Nearly all of Brawl's music
Id Purpose (Arena Ferox from Smash 4)
Hopefully all of those.
You missed backwards bair, dtilt spike, and sliding up smash.
Tap the control stick away from your opponent while also tapping the C-stick up, it pretty much counters any approach.
Yeah RAR bair is the shit.
It is literately my favorite move, I can easily throw it off really really fast.
Dtilt spike is a must, but I barely ever land it.
Is what you mentioned last called a pivot smash?
>putting a kirby character on the bingo
Jesus how could I forget ikes best combo.
Land a nair on someone, and jab them out of it.
Ah I see.
Hey I'm no expert in brawl but I really love playing as ike.
I'm usually in the friendly smash party scenes than actual torneys.
Every night is a great night when one of these are performed
>fully charged eruption kill
>landing a fsmash that obliterates your foes
>landing a well placed ftilt to end the match
>throwing a bair and hearing your opponent cursing your bair
>ledge spicking someone with a dair
>someone SDs with a ledge nair
smash nights are truly great.
Too bad they are so few now, hopefully when smash 3ds comes out, the fire will be rekindled.
it is an item
it turns bowser
and holding down R when selecting bowser allows you to play as giga bowser
now why can't holding down R when selecting mario turn him into metal mario.
You guys seriously need to get out of my head.
We are on the same wave length and shit.
Are you ike friends going to be on 3ds or wii u?
>tfw you manage to drag someone down with the last little tip of the ragnell on a desperate aether.
You can say a lot about Brawl, but it probably has the best damn soundtrack of any game ever, barring some god tier soundtracks like SMRPG and DKC2.
Just one small example. There are over 100 others just as good as that. Very few of the songs are shit.
Chances are I'll end up with both. A lot of people want to play with me on 3DS, but at the same time the Wii U version seems better for me. Hope there's a bundle with the adapter and Gamecube controller, mine is starting to suck.
I'll definitely give new comers a try, but Ike will definitely always be my main.
Since greatsword users are always my staple in any type of game,be in mmorpg,rpg or what ever.
I picked up Ike when smash first came out just by chance, loved his play style then realized he had his own games.
I have yet to play them though.
A wii u smash bundle would be really nice for our smash group.
I'll definitely be on 3ds only for a while, until wii u starts getting some decent non mario related games.
>3ds is getting fantasy life and mh4u
So not to be a wii u hater, but there is just little incentive for me to get a wii u just now.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST
I don't even play PM but this is probably my favorite Stickerbush Symphony remix of all time:
Also, 64 and Melee had some fine music, but Brawl definitely has the most good songs. To disagree is just to have a pathological hatred of Brawl, which is sad.
>I picked up Ike when smash first came out just by chance, loved his play style then realized he had his own games.
I didn't even try Ike until like last year. Had Brawl the whole time, but I didn't like Marth so I thought I wouldn't like Ike either
I was wrong. Ike's one of my mains now. Gonna git gud with him in SSB4 next month