>that one sequel that shit all over the original What's

Cataclysm

>>257880968
The funny thing is SupCom shit all over Total Annihilation as well

Risen is perhaps one of my favorite games of all time. I was relatively new to PC gaming, and hadn't played any Gothic games before it. It was the perfect wRPG, and felt like a real adventure with great combat and actions that have consequences.

I pre-ordered Risen 2 and it was such a terrible game. I actually became physically depressed because of how bad it was.

Risen 3 is out and I'm hesitantly optimistic. Don't know if I want to buy it or not.

Dragon Age 2, SWTOR, ME2/3, etc., etc.

/thread

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>every Final Fantasy after 10

>>257881110
I think SupCom was a worthy successor.

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>Tomba 2

It must have been really hard to fuck up such a simple concept.

>>257880827
Unseen Conflict

>>257881572

Ok there.

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>>257881572

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>>257881439

>ME2

Chrono Cross

>>257881572
>>257881849

If anything, MGS4 shat over everything by making the Patriots be those faggots from MGS3.

>>257881953
>>>/biowareforums/

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>>257882049
>>257881965

I'm sorry, you must have posted in this thread by mistake.

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god damnit

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>>257881394

It's not that bad.

>>257880827
Mass Effect 2, but in a good way. The entire game felt like an apology for ME1, which could have been nice but then they made ME3.

>>257882158
I haven't played Mafia 2 but Chrono Cross is a terrible mish-mash of shit story and too many characters that serve no purpose other than collecting.

The party member select screen might as well have been called "Steven's PC" or whatever the pokemon storage thing is called.

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Dark Souls II

>>257881625
I would really prefer if you would be quiet

>>257882158
Mafia 2 was extreme disappointment.

Guild Wars 2.

Fighting Force 2

Mario Bros 3

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Low hanging fruit.

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>>257880827

Call Of Duty 2

>>257887059
yes

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>>257887059

>>257881394

I'm extraordinarily pleased with it. Seriously, unless you're Carolyn Petit or some other game reviewer that knows jack shit about games, you'll appreciate all the detail they put into it.

Great game, completely makes up for the second. Get it, now.

>>257881625
>there are people who honestly think Tomba 2 was bad
I want to live in this world where Tomba 2 is a bad game, I can't even imagine what the good games must be like in such a world

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>>257882230
god fucking dammit that game uuugh

>>257880827
Pikmin 2

>>257885545

Anon, we are talking about shitty sequels, not the best in their series

Alundra 2

Starcraft 2.

Portal 2. Aside from new mechanics, it was just "lol we can be randumb a second time and you'll still pay money for it! Eck's Dee! Eck's Dee!"
No but really, it was utter shit compared to the original.

Bioshock 2

Saints Row: The Third

>>257888102

:^)

>>257888231
;^(

>>257881849
> Menus and Cutscenes: The Video Game

>>257888102
The coop is a redeeming factor of it.

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>>257880827
Serenity.

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>>257888640
>someone who already played it wants to play co-op with me
>mfw I haven't played it yet
>mfw that dumb bitch does everything and tells me where to go before I can even think about it
Puzzle co-op is the worst thing ever.

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What is Super Paper Mario? Didn't shit all over the original, just wasn't nowhere as good as the first two.

>>257888640
I literally only played the first five levels of co-op with my friends 10 year old brother on his PS3. Its not bad, but the co-op should've been an add on for the first game. Maybe more gels in the main game would've been a nice addition, as well as keeping it gameplay based rather than story based.

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There's more to Planetside than shooting people. SOE forgot this, despite the PS2 team having many people from the first game's team.

>>257888832
That's why I just download new puzzles to do with my friends.

>>257888141
>sequel
>3
Go back to school.

>>257889021
But I wanted to play the campaign...

>>257889027
Read a book.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sequel?s=t

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Drakengard 2

>>257881572
what's wrong? didn't get it?

>>257888930

>didn't shit all over the original

get out

>>257882049
come on now, you have to make your bait a bit less obvious than this.

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>>257885545
This
While not an bad game it certainly doesn't live up to the hype
>that horrid level design
>nearly every boss is humanoid and wields a weapon
>causal shit, 4 ring slots, warping to every bonfire from the beginning, boss weapon is a simple exchange for boss' soul
>torch concept dead
>bullshots
>planned DLC

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>>257881953
agree 100%
>>257886067
Guild wars 2 being so shitty was such a disappointment, I sunk so much time in gw and loved the fuck out of it.

Ya know what, looking back on it Jade Cocoon didn't wasn't a bad game but it was bad as a sequel to jade cocoon.

>>257881110
SupCom wasn't as good as TA, but Forged Alliance surpassed it.

>>257887391

So agree with this one.

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WHAT CAN I DO FOR YOU?

>>257890381
>Jade Cocoon didn't wasn't a bad game
*Jade Cocoon 2 wasn't a bad game
I need coffee

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Does "shit on" mean ruined, or blown it the fuck out in terms of quality?

dragon age
mass effect

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>>257891096

Tara Strong?

Morrowind, the start of casualisation

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>>257888586
>not enjoying seeing how soldiers healed themselves before nanomachines
>not enjoying the camp system
>not enjoying eating
>not enjoying those sweet EVA boobs

>>257891507
Camo system*

>>257891330
>you'll never cum in her while she squeals like bubbles

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>>257891803

>you'll never suck the cum out of her pussy after a dozen guys climax in her

>>257887391
The only thing it shat on was the atmosphere.

TW2 has nice environments, but no atmosphere.

>every fucking PC game ever

seriously, stop making sequels, mustard.

>>257880827
What game sequel improved on the original?

>half-life 2
>system shock 2

I'm out of ideas.

>>257880827
I love that girl in the pic. Whos she?

>>257892862
Ching Chong Chun Li

>>257893121
EPIC WIN /B/RO!

>>257892829
Resident Evil 2
Mortal Kombat 2
L4D2
Silent Hill 2
Saints Row 2

Galaga

>Ctrl-F
>no Invisible War

Please

>>257880827
>Radiant Dawn >>>>>> Path of Radiance

RD is just so much more customizable and strategic. The only downside is the broken up story.

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>"Hey, you know what we should do for our next game in this popular horror franchise?"
>"No, what?"
>"Make it into a co-op Call of Duty and remove all the horror elements"
>"You my friend are a fucking genius"

>>257880827
Spellforce 2

>>257895429
Fear was never scary

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Soon.

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>>257880827

>>257895429
That co-op mission on the bridge where the fog of death coming from behind was cool though

>>257888930
>Didn't shit all over the original
Sticker Star, however, did. It's actually impressive how they managed to fuck it up SO badly.

>>257887059
Are you fucking kidding me?

not really a sequel, but
>every "shing" game after Shining force 3

Fuck you and your shitty beat them all

Lost kingdoms 2

>F3 + Thief
Yeah, everyone just wants to forget that one.

>>257896361
It popularized the regen HP and tiny maps the series later became known for. Recoil was basically gone and automatic weapons became the standard.

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>>257880827

>>257896615
It does shit all over the original but really, the game itself's not bad.

>>257880827

Half-Life OF

>>257880827
this happend to the kings quest series after 6 it goes down hill

>>257889646
you have to think 4 dimensionally!

Also:
Deus Ex Invisible War. it killed the franchise for 9 years. Granted we got DEHR, which was a great game, but damn, IW almost ruined the franchise forever. I can't believe how disappointed I am to this day.

>>257892829
Gothic 2
Mount and Blade: Warband
Freespace 2
Aquanox 2

>>257891096
I want those lips wrapped around my cock

>>257892829
This one: >>257891351

>>257887391
weird considering the first one was ass compared to 2

>>257882449
LOOK AT THOSE BOOBS.jpg

every single sonic game after sonic CD

>>257892018
I'm subby guy too, but jesus christ that is disgusting

>>257888739
Somehow I fucking knew someone was going to post this. If anything Serenity just finished off the series, like a season finale. Why do you hate it anon?

>>257880968
>mfw I like Supcom 2
I like artillery battles. Playing Supcom 2 is like living in Israel.

>>257889129

i think he might have made a joke about how Fallout started at 3, the same way final Fantasy started at 7.

>>257881484
>didn't like FFXI
>liked VIII and X
opinion_descarted.jpg

>>257895429
The horror elements of FEAR are shit. The reason the games were good was the gunplay.

Street Fighter II

>>257881439
How much more of a pleb can you get ?

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>>257880827
This alone should make you hate Microsoft.

>>257892018
I'm bisexual and even I find that distasteful.

>>257880827
The Last Window.

I wouldn't say it shits all over Hotel Dusk, but it's pretty bad.

mass effect 2

>>257880827
Driv3r

Mega Man X7

Megaman 6
Megaman 8
and i guess SMT4 for being great while Strange Journey was amazing

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>>257903283
>Megaman 6

Spyro: Enter the Dragonfly.

As soon as I played that I knew darker times were coming.

>>257890925
You need much more.
>X wasnt bad game, it was just bad Y game
This statement is always all kind of fucked up and wrong.

But fuck GW2, thats for sure.

>>257897302
Freespace 2 was awesome man, I don't know what you're talking about.

>>257904484
How is it a bad statement? It's more informative than just saying that a game is bad, since another person may like the new style. For example, Dead Space 1 being a survival horror, while 2 and 3 had much greater focuses on being an action thriller, especially considering the co-op in DS3

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>>257904838
Because the one who determines what is good X game is the guy that made X games. You are entitled to have opinion about whether a game is good or bad. But stating that a game is bad X game isnt something you should be deciding.

As your example. Is DS a good game, just bad DS game or are DS2 and DS3 good games but bad DS games? Obviously neither. The game just changed course and it was meant to do that. DS was a good DS game, but they wanted to move it more toward action so they did in sequels, which were good DS games, because DS had already moved.

I overly complicated it, but I hope you get my meaning.

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Prototype 2
Ultima IX
Tiberian Twilight
Empire Earth 3
Invisible War
Epic Mickey 2

>>257880827
Brawl

>>257880827
Every sequel ever. There has never been a good video game sequel.

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>>257880827
>Super Mario World
God damn what a shit game.

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Guild Wars 2, it's pretty easy to see why.

>>257880827
Dino Crisis 3

>>257891096
Please tell me that has a dick

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>>257895429
3rd time's the charm right

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Other M was so bad it put the series into a coma and retconned every other game

>>257881439
Those are all good, though...

Nuts and Bolts

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>>257906167
I know I'm being baited, but

>Street Fighter 2
>Age of Empires 2
>Hitman Bloodmoney
>Saint's Row 2
>Assassin's Creed 2
>Red Dead Redemption
>Warcraft 2
>Halo 2
>Silent Hill 2
>Warband

Yer full of shit.

>>257906664
Oi, DS3 was good but not great.

>>257906927
Those are all shit. Get some taste, kid.

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>>257880827
Zone of the Enders 2.

>>257895429
>Fear
>Horror

I don't think so. The only claim to fame FEAR has is it's amazing AI.

>>257906035
I get your meaning, and I think it's completely wrong. I get the idea of changing the direction of a game, but what's the point of keeping the title if you're taking it in a completely different direction? Going from survival horror to third-person action is anything but a slight change, and it affects all aspects of the game's design with the exception of the art style. Because of this, they are completely different games, which can be fit into different genres entirely, and if it's a different genre, why keep the same title?

Look at other games that have done this, Halo, and Metal Gear. All of these game series have had games that were dramatic departures from previous games, Revengeance, and Reach. The thing is, both are spin off titles, they aren't main line titles, so outside of lore and art style, there isn't any previous expectation for them. However with a sequel, there's an expectation of it to be a continuation of the previous game, with similar mechanics, hopefully slightly altered for the better, and to just generally be better, but when you go in a completely different direction outside of a spin off game, you end up with people who buy your game on the idea that it's a direct sequel, and get a completely different game instead. In your opinion, this may not be a bad thing, but I personally believe that taking series' in a different direction should be done with spin offs, or re-titling the series, as just leaving it as though nothing changed when they did doesn't really help anyone, and there's no benefit for it to either side.

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>>257882230
>tfw I loved that game and beat it 5 times

I didn't even know it was a sequel to something.

>>257896213
PFFFT
And you OFFICIALLY have no idea what you're talking about. Literally nothing in KH2 was worse than original KH.

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>>257907035

>>257880827
Jagged Alliance 2

>>257881093
Cataclysm was definitely better than the original gameplay wise, but I wouldn't say it shat over the original. I felt that the original's narrative worked a lot better and Cataclysm lacked the same sense of wonder.

>>257896783
I really need to get back to playing this. Beat the first one so many times and still haven't even finished this

>>257892018
It's really kind of poetic that cuckoldfags are the worst human beings on the planet and have no right to breed, and they're so fucking beta they agree that they don't.

>Meanwhile the 3rd game of the series is the worst

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Alright let me just get the biggest offenders out of the way.

Command and Conquer Tiberian Twilight 4
Red Alert 3
Mass Effect 3
CoD MW2 and every CoD game since then as well
Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword
Metroid Other M
Gothic 3
Paper Mario Sticker Star
Supreme Commander 2
Any F.E.A.R. game outside the original
StarCraft 2
Total War Rome II
Dungeon Keeper 3
Stronghold 2
Stronghold 3
...anything modern EA and Capcom is making outside of Monster Hunter, pretty much.

>>257908958
>meanwhile
>game isn't out yet

>>257900842
Why are we numbering Final Fantasy Online and Final Fantasy Online: Realms of Eozea?

>>257910032
Final Fantasy games make more money that way.

>>257882230
>that character design
Worse than Luso and Marche combined.

>>257909202
>Mass Effect 3
>Not 2

Why does everyone give 2 a free ride? It turned the series into Gears of War for fuck's sake

FFX-2
come at me

Gothic 3

>Orcs can now talk
>Humanity lost war to orcs
>Xardas turned Evil
>Some niggers suddenly work as slave driver
>No Khorinis

>>257887059
Fuck you Anything after Cod 3 sucked, not 2.

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>>257909202
>Sticker Star

>>257911190
Absolute 10/10 battle system. It's what XIII should have been.
Completely blew X's out of the water.
>battle system based on turn order and manipulating turn order
>enemys turn will be after 5 more moves from you
>attack with auron
>enemy attacks anyway

>>257882230
It was fine, and then I saw the back arm contorted into a Jojo sword wielding pose. How the fuck would you hurt anything with that grip?

>>257880827

I'll take 'What is Tales Of Symhonia 2' for one thousand, kawaii girl.

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Say what you want about 4, but this game is offensive in its badness

>>257911173
because 3 was worse?

>>257911564
More like tales of xillia 2

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>Bioshock: Infinite

>>257889646
MEANWHILE
>dark souls 1
>no horrid level design - great levels such as demon ruins, lost izalith, crystal caves, new londo
>great bosses such as 3 asylum demons, capra and taurus, seath, bed of chaos, pinwheel
>pseudo-difficult stuff like ariamis or solaire's quest that you would never figure out on your own without gamefaqs
>cut content packaged and sold as dlc

>>257882049
Mafia 2 was fantastic. One of the best interactive experiences you can have. MF2's story was superior but the overall game just isn't as good as Mafia 1.

>>257887391
>First one was kind of boring but passable.
>Second one was outright shit and shit on almost everything the first game did right.

agreed

no Devil may Cry? really?

>>257890846
>missing teeth

Disgusting

>>257912624
But 3 was a pretty good sequel to 1.
4 wasn't a terrible sequel.
I just don't know why they skipped straight from 1 to 3, though

>>257908958
>silent hill 3

>>257911173
2 wasn't as good as 1 but it wasn't a fucking slap in the face to the original.

It still felt like Mass Effect even if it was a less focused game and with some poor design choices. ME3 was just bad for multiple reasons.

>Ctrl + F
>Nothing about the Walking Dead s2
As someone who loved the first game a lot, I'm completely bored with season 2 and probably won't buy season 3 when it comes out.

Dark cloud 2

>>257912053
>that you would never figure out on your own
>Find solaire with bug on his head
>Kill him
>Go behind him, bugs erewhere
>Maybe if I kill the bugs...

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This vile piece of trash here.

Super Mario Sunshine

Mass Effect 2

>>257916587
Despite all its flaws, it's still better than Super.

>>257916587

Game suffered from no free-roaming, but it was still the best Metroid game for atmosphere

running into SA-X was an amazing feeling, they really did a damn good job with that game's entire atmosphere

>>257914410
But that improved upon the original in every way.

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>>257911582
4 is good, though.

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>>257906970
>Implying.
It's absolute shait.

>>257916587
Your opinion is wrong.

>>257912624
What are you talking about? There are only three games in the franchise.
;_;

>>257888141
Really? I'm not trolling when I say that 3 was an improvement over 1 and 2 in many ways.

>>257918126
4 is great it was just too different for the immediate reaction to be positive but a lot of people slowly started admitting it was a solid game.

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>>257912624
>>257918220
Just like how Persona started with 3.

>>257917318
:^)

>>257907338
KH 2 had an over use of cutscenes and the world design was mediocre.

>>257880827
Any game that simply re-uses the title of the superior first game or entire franchise because no one has any imagination.

>>257887391
Both are excellent games.
First one felt tedious is some parts but still amazing.
Second game did almost everything right, except some minor details, like the lack of details in some characters and stuff.

doom 3

>>257880827
Viewtiful Joe 2. Also, Red Hot Rumble.