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FUCK THIS GAME
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yeah, fuck that game.
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Fuck these games are good
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Fuck
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>>257787841
I started playing Nocturne today and I'm at the fucking Lost Woods ripoff area where you're in contact with Hijiri and I keep on running into these hordes of demons who turn Demi-Fiend or my demons against each other and I fucking die every time
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>Can't handle Nocturne
Maybe the Devil Children series is more your speed?
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>>257788323
LOOKS BETTER THAN THIS SHIT IM DEALING WITH
FUCJ IM MAD
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>>257788235
well you got much further than I ever did. I got fucked up at the Harumi warehouse and haven't touched the game since.
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>>257788235
>being awful

you're gonna hate the boss then

it only gets harder from here, git gud or die trying
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>>257788816
Actually this is my second attempt, I first played 2 years ago and got about 14 hours into it but my file got deleted and I didn't try again until today and I don't remember having this much trouble.
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>>257789129
are you using buffs/debuffs?

you kinda need them if you want to live
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>>257787751
Oy hello there.
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>>257789610
Trumpeter is supposed to be hard or a "noob buster"? I ended him on turn 4.
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>>257789129
Have you tried to not suck at it?
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>>257789748
He's hard until you figure out his gimmick/know it beforehand

he's not really a "noob buster" considering he's the last fiend in the game
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>>257789423
Yes I have and I'm aware of their importance.

>>257789860
GOOD ADVICE 10/10
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>>257789886
I didn't know what his gimmick was.

Don't even remember the fight. I just bursted him the fuck down.
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>>257790201
>Freikugel

well there's your fucking problem, you're overleveled as shit
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>>257788540
Having trouble with Matador?
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>>257790342
That's not Freikugel.
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>>257790458
Nah. I beat the matador in my initial playthrough
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I absolutely love Nocturne but the difficulty is pretty disappointing. Once you get past the first candelabrum boss fight you'll steamroll pretty much the rest of the game. The only fight I had issues with was Mot, because I forgot to bring any demons with zio.
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>>257790342
That's divine shot (or something), pleb. Freikugel is the one with lightning coming out of his face.

As far as I can see I only got Freikugel when I was about to fight Chiaki.
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>>257790661
Play on hard.
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>>257790567
I fucking knew someone was going to beat me to it when I was going through my screenshot folder of that playthrough.
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>>257790889
What kind of name is Casper nigga are u some kind of friendly ghost
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>>257791137
I will one day. Is it comparable to Strange Journey difficulty? Because that game is hard as fuck.
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>>257790201
Why does it look like he's cumming while practicing his basketball free throw shot?
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>>257791361
You don't know Demifiends life.
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>>257791202
In a game of pretend I can be anything you want.
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>>257791263
I found Nocturne normal much harder than Strange Journey, so probably.

Hard is pretty brutal unless you're on NG+ with the extra press turn
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>>257791427
Are his orgasms so powerful that they cause critical damage to Satan himself?

I want that life
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>>257791361
cum like mike play like mike
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>>257791263
Honestly it depends on how lucky you are. It can get insanely difficult at times, with random encounters finishing off your MC before you even get a single turn. I believe it doubles the damage you receive and also makes enemies crit you more, lowers your chances to hit/crit/avoid and makes running away from battles next to impossible. Strange Journey was certainly very easy compare to my run of Nocturne hard mode, but there are people who didn't have that much difficulty in it.
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>>257791629
>orgasms so powerful that they cause critical damage to Satan himself
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>>257791704
Don't know if that sounds very tempting. I love a challenge but when it's just bullshit it's no fun at all. I'll try, at least.
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>>257792157
I won't lie, it can be pretty bullshit in the beginning, but overall it's pretty fun and satisfying.
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GIB MACCA
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>>257792157
it's really only bullshit in the very beginning before you have any demons, where getting through the hospital is entirely based on luck. After that it gets better.
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>>257790201
>Casper
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>>257790201
>>257790889
>>257791435

So are you emulating this or something?
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>>257792361
>mfw I'm going to win the game with just Pixie, Hua Po, MC and Jack Frost
Pixie is best demon.
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>>257792369
>mfw if you play on hard it's up to luck if you will win the first battle or not
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>>257792490
Of course.
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>>257791797
Why in lucifers call it says moot instead of dead
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>>257792910
My PS2 just burned out.

How easy is it to emulate? Do you need a high end computer?
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>>257793213
not really

I'm running DDS2 on my laptop

just start at native res and go up until you see framedrops
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>>257793213
Its easy but the final boss takes up 3 times the CPU as the rest of the game so prepare for that
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>>257793213
The great thing about PCs is that if it runs like shit you can lower the quality.

But no I played it on a shit rig and it was fine.
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goddamn you fuckers are whiny babies.
This game is the first turn-based rpg i've cared to play for more than a couple hours (I normally play fighting games), and I am not finding it rage-worthy at ALL. The only part I got stuck on so far was Matador and I grinded for a bit, fused demons, and kicked his ass. This game is challenging, sure, but damn. I fucking love this game. Go play Pokemon or something.
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also change the EE/FPU advanced compiler settings to nearest it fixes everything being transparent and fixes a game breaking bug
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>>257793179
because ghostlight
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>>257793763
fucking ghostlight at least my DDS 1 + 2 are murican psn copies
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I'm actually playing DDS right now, I keep running out of macca from buying all the damn mantra.
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I stopped playing around the time some demon dude wanted to see me and made me stronger. I'm not sure why.
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Nocturne wasn't even hard, once you can fuse Daisoujou the game becomes downright easy.
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>>257794114
Your meant to
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>>257794250
I know, but it's annoying as fuck
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>>257794114
just keep playing, you get shitloads of money as the game progresses

remember to only sell cells at max noise, except Jack cells which are worth most at min noise
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>>257794114
DDS was great too but I really don't see myself replaying it anytime soon.
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Compare every shin megami tensei game to persona 4.

I need to know if all of them is shit I don't care about: the game

the slice of life, the cringy dialogue, the waifu simluation, the boring repetitive dungeons (with the saving grace being that combat is somewhat tactical), the doing same shit every day for different days to grind stats (because grinding dungeons isn't enough), and I just hate the tone in general, it feels like a game made for kids (the best comparison I can think of is shounen vs seinen in anime)

And before you reply with "you don't have to grind", I mean that it feels like a grind the first time through, I don't mean replaying parts over and over to get stronger, the base game does that for you.

And then here's the part that irks me the most. I fucking love giant bomb right? To the point where I have seen every quick look, every live show. So why couldn't I sit through them playing persona 4? I'm on part 69 and I'm almost ready to kill myself.

I feel like there's something I'm not getting because people seem to love these games, and being that it's a JRPG genre I should be all over that. I don't want to miss out on a great series.
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>>257794364

I really wish I knew about that beforehand. I was poor as shit as soon as I got Iron Stomach.
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>>257794482
SMT isn't Persona. I love almost all SMT games I've played but hate Persona 3 and 4.
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>>257792910
I fucked up and fused my Pixie early, is it possible to use the Pixie in the compendium to get those rewards?
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Is it just me or does Hiji look like Orlando Bloom
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>>257794482
Persona 4 is the shittiest game ATLUS has ever made and
>the slice of life, the cringy dialogue, the waifu simluation, the boring repetitive dungeons (with the saving grace being that combat is somewhat tactical), the doing same shit every day for different days to grind stats (because grinding dungeons isn't enough), and I just hate the tone in general, it feels like a game made for kids (the best comparison I can think of is shounen vs seinen in anime)
None of this exists in Nocturne.

DDS has cringy dialogue though.

...

No seriously the only people who even remotely enjoy P4 are retarded waifufags.
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>>257794441
Persona 3 and 4 are literally the only ones with that shit

Everything else except is crazy cyberpunk demon apocalypse dungeon crawling and killing your friends for being retarded, except Nocturne which isn't all that cyberpunk
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>>257794874
If you know what pixie is in you can still get but you lose the demon you fused it in
But if you sacrifice it it dead
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>>257794482
>>257794869
Play both Persona 2's.
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>>257794874
As long as you don't release/throw away the demon that you fused Pixie with you can get Mega Pixie.
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>>257794927
>cringy

Is that slang for "the best?"
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>>257794874
you can fuse the pixie all you want as long as you keep whatever you fused it into
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>>257794482
Persona 3 and 4 are probably the most character-focused games. You could say they're 50% talking, 50% gameplay. Other MegaTen games are usually something like 80% gameplay, 20% story.
If you don't like them, shit, try out literally any other PS2 MegaTen game. Nocturne, Digital Devil Saga, even Raidou games (although those are kinda different). Try Devil Survivor if you like SRPGs. The second one is fine, too, although it does have more dialogue and shit.
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>>257795138
>Getting rid of best demon for a novelty demon
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How do I beat the guy guarding's Loki's room?
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>>257795138
>Losing Daisoubro
That's gotta hurt
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>>257795193
I think he means the cutscenes, the voices definitely could have used some work

it's a lot better in 2 though, minus everything that comes out of Sera's mouth
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>>257795312
Poison
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>>257795312
Get a Hua Po
spam charm and beat the shit out of him while he's useless
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>>257795138
>getting rid of Daisoujou for fucking Mega Pixie
you fucked up
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>>257795193
Most of it is cool, but the SOANIME plot was fucking awful and
>literally any time Cielo talks
See pic.
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>>257795438
>>257795456
I shall do both, thanks.
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>>257795529
>Not loving Cielo

I wish I could hate you to death.
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daily reminder that Black Frost is best demon
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hey /v/ im thinking of playing Devil Summoner

should i play Soulless Army or King Abbadon first? does it matter?
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>>257795282
Persona 3 and 4 are probably the most character-focused games

DDS blows it out the water
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>>257795298
>>257795317
>>257795495
B-but muh waifu...

Got him back from the compendium anyway.
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>>257795529
>Hating on Cielo

Okay, dis seriously won't work.
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>Recruiting Dante
>No piercing so he's worthless against Lucifer
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>>257795529
>SOANIME

Are you sure you don't want to call it hipster, weeaboo, autistic, fedora, or some other meaningless word?
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>>257794927
I like Persona 4 and Nocturne, what now?
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>>257787925
Just beat it on neutral. Is it really worth playing it again on another path?
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>>257795821
I still used him for Lucy. He was with me all this time, he should just stay with me until the end.
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>>257795954
only for NG+ to go through the hell that is Grus and fighting Demiurge.

go Chaos, Law a shit
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>>257795724
>should I play the first one or the second one first?
Gee I wonder.
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>>257795789
But you could make a better one

>Using mothman and my madyne filled demon I made one with all madynes, megidolaon, Mana refill, mediahan and the double drain
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>>257795692
>>257795802
Cielo is great but that accent makes anything he says cringe worthy.

>>257796031
Word up. Dante+Mega Pixie+Black Frost only acceptable party vs Lucifer.
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>>257795821
>We'll never get Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne featuring Raidou Kuzunoha XIV from the Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner series
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>>257795529
Anon, you can call the DDS plot pretty much everything, but SOANIME? Really? Can you elaborate?

>>257795932
Nothing, you are a cool guy. I pretty much love all MegaTen games I ever played for what they are (something some people do forget quite often).
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>>257796031
>>257795821
Yeah same. I just had him use Rebellion for his crits to give me an extra turn.

Why doesn't he have Pierce though? Raidou has it.
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How are the PS2 SMT titles anyhow? I've only been playing portable entries/ports (P2-4, SJ, SH, DeSu) and enjoyed them.
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>>257796176
Not pixie, dante and Futomimi
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>>257796176
I had Metatron, Daisoujou and Dante.
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>>257796313
because the editions with Raidou came afterward and they realized they fucked up with Dante so they gave Raidou pierce so he wouldn't suck for Lucy like he did.
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>>257795821
I use him so I can drop lucifers Defence to minimum then swap to futomimi to spam war cry
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>>257796349
They're great. All of them.
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>>257796349
If you liked the games you've played, you'll like the PS2 ones. I started with the DS games as well and loved both Nocturne and DDS. Yet to play the Raidou games, though. Real time combat is turning me off.
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>>257796349
Pretty much all PS2 MegaTen games are good, the Raidou ones may feel weird, but that's about it.
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i played both persona 3 & 2 and they were decent

should i play Devil Summoner 1 or Nocturne next?
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>>257796349
They're greatfun.
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>>257796615
Nocturne
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bat here. everyone's a loser.
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>Play Raidou 2 first
>mfw Raidou 1's combat

MISTAKES WERE MADE
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>>257796615
Nocturne is kinda similar to Persona 3 combat (you basically get an extra half-turn every time you hit a weakness instead of knocking the enemy down) and has a lot of dungeon crawlan. Devil Survivor is basically a SRPG where every unit is a party of three and combat is just one or two turns of everyone doing shit.

You have to decide for yourself.
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>>257794073
Fuck that. Satan gives a better mana regen ability anyway
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>>257796814
why is that? i have to play the Raidou games once i finish Strange Journies
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>>257796780
Fuck off faggot.
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>>257795821
his still pretty good because of crits.
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>>257796814
>playing Raidou 1

why
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>>257795282
>>257794927
You anons just made my day.
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>>257796258
>but SOANIME? Really? Can you elaborate?
Watch more anime. Otherwise you won't understand how cliché ridden and predictable it is.

Don't get so butthurt about it.

>>257796349
They're all amazing. Raidou Kuzunoha 1 is the only exception as being just alright because it feels so weird and the combat system isn't really well realized.

>>257796391
That's just being a dick.
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>>257796814
>play the 2nd game first
But why?
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>>257796615
>>257796915
And I'm retarded since I read Devil Summoner as Devil Survivor. If we're talking about Raidou, then play Nocturne.
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best girl. best team mate.
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>>257794073
I gave up on the last couple levels and used a guide

It's bullshit but I guess the right amount of bullshit to get Null All
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>>257797014
I do watch a lot of animu, but I didn't feel like DDS was that predictable. Most of the time I was just trying to understand what the fuck just happened.
I mean shit, if you know of any anime in tone of DDS, please direct me to it.
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>>257797026
Well they are both standalone games that just star the same character. 2 just has much better gameplay than 1.
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>>257796780
Fuck off bat. Maybe you'd win if you didn't constantly guard like a retard
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I'm doing good so far I'd imagine. Just killed the first horseman with the bow but haven't fought the second yet. Aside that, reached the forbidden part of the manakin city and now I'm not sure where to go. Fusing seems confusing but everything else seems great.
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>>257797217
>if you know of any anime in tone of DDS, please direct me to it.
KLK and DDS are both based on the same hindu story.

Not even joking.
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>tfw Atlus will never port Nocturne/Raidous/DDS to 3DS/Vita
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>>257797313
Second horseman is a bit of a fucker. If you're struggling then use stone gaze on his angels.
then fuse him as soon as you can because he's the best demon in the game
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>>257797448
>likes P4
Opinion invalidated
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>>257797480
Can't you play them on vita since they released on PSN?
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>>257797448
>Disliking Devil Survivor
Post your shitty opinions somewhere else
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>>257797141
>Muh lesbian friend
>Muh world of peace
>Muh anorexia
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>>257797447
It's been a while since I played DDS, but what the fuck? Really? Which one?
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only one else hated the last boss in DDS 2? it was just weird in disappointing. great music thought.
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>>257797014
Got it, so you don't actually have anything to say about the plot except "lel so cliche".
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>>257797693
The worst type of build you can make.
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>>257792910
THIS SMILE IS MEGIDOROAN CUTE!
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>The secret character is Heat
What the fuck
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>>257797794
This why suck at everything
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>>257797624
'PS2 Classics' PSN releases are PS3-only. And given PS2 Classics reboots the PS3 into its software emulator to even make that shit work, I doubt we'll ever see them work natively on Vita.
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>>257797448
>Disliking Devil Survivor
>No SMT or Persona before PS2
>Liking P4 more than 3, DDS, and Raidou

Worthless.
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>>257797217
There's literally a diamond dozen I could send you to. Hell the whole "mysterious girl with anmesia" is so prevalent that even the Ys videogame series has it.

The problem is I'm utter shit with names. So it sounds like I'm just pulling your leg.

>>257797679
I... think its called the brahamastra or something? Shit man these names make no sense to me.

Also what this guy said >>257797447
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>>257797917
>beat DDS twice for all the extra shit, questions, and Demi Fiend
>harddrive fails, lose save
>fuck it, import save from gamefaqs
>get through the entire game just to not get Heat or Argilla's skill

fuck you internet

not like it matters that much anyway, they're so far behind in mantras it's not worth the time and money to catch them up anyway
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>tfw there'll never be an SMT title with a better battle theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQhgTN7bNH8
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>>257798203
True, all of DDS is summed up with "mysterious girl with amnesia", there's nothing else going on, right?
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>>257798378
There was.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7pkUKa5JUU
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>>257795932
You're a casual PS2 babby
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>>257798203
>that tiny fucking head
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>>257798378
nigga please, DDS2 shits all over Nocturne's music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCuOjfyUHnA
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>>257798349
>Not having Argilla as a staple in your party through both games
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>>257797794

That reminds me, how often is a physical build actually the best way to go? The only time I can think of is Nocturne, I played DDS and even though physical went okay, I was a bit annoyed to find out that magic got god damn Null Element.
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>>257798378
You posted the wrong video bro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jFaoLrLzd4
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>>257798637
Too upbeat.
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>>257798790
Outside of Nocturne I don't think I've ever gone with a physical build.
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>>257798604
>Battle theme
>Posts boss theme
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>>257798637
>can't link to Man's Tomb Prelude because its not on the OST and not on youtube
Fuck.
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>>257798790
The physical build in Devil Survivor 2 was insane. multi-strike was pretty much a guaranteed party killer unless they can reflect physical attacks entirely.
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>>257798790
I just pumped strength vit and agi. Luck and magic noises were the easiest to grind after all
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>>257798885
Mass Destruction always makes me mad hype the only bad lyric is "mommies not here gotta fight all night"
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>>257798790
Doesn't matter what the best build is, you must always go wurld of str

I even went str in the original DeSu, without that overclocked bullshit
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>>257798887
Yeah, battles should be sedate and downtempo.
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>>257798542
>mfw i knew you were just butthurt
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>>257798885
>J-pop & Hiphop
>Good
It was contagious though I'll give it that.
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>>257798790

Well there's the early games where the player character can't get magic.
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>>257798620
>Some of the best games on the system
>The system that is the best in gaming
>Casual baby
Okay
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>>257798929
It's the theme that plays during battles. Either way, the random encounter theme is better than the one in Nocturne.
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>>257799081
Fuck that. I put chaos hero as STR in 1 and he was awful. His only contribution was playing meatshield and giving me a free gun.
Pretty funny how even when he fused with a demon he was still crap
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>>257798378
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMzfJz3MY2o
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>>257799356
Your friends are supposed to be useless. This is SMT, after all.

The only reason you had a useful friend in SMT II was because he was actually Satan.
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>>257799202
Play a REAL SMT you bitch
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>>257799315
I remember back in the last gen console wars, saying words like "sonyfags" on /v/ was an automatic ban. I miss those days so much.
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>>257799579
But nocturne is smt 3 ;^)
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>>257799787
>also the reason why sony products are banned on /vr/
What?
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>>257799228
The random encounter theme in SJ is terrible for the first few seconds and it's what you'll hear most often. Every battle theme in nocturne is better
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>>257798887
>implying upbeat battle themes are not amazing and keep the combat fun
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>>257799561
True. Only good partners are your waifus.
demon ones too
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>>257799874
They aren't, he's just a retard.
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>>257799874
yep
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>>257793179
it depends whether the copy is a first or second run. my copy of is a 1st PAL run and it displays DEAD during the final battle like other regions, but it also unfortunately has a bug that causes it to often freeze during specific enemy formations in the amala labyrinth. 2nd run seems to have fixed that issue and made some minor changes, like a couple of typos, couple of enemies AI that they messed up a bit and changing the DEAD to MUTE for some bizarre reason.
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>>257799579
When did people get elitist about which generation SMT game you're playing?
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>Any smt game
Human auto Null Expel unless equip something that forcea it

>persona
Expel hits regardless even if you resist

why does this happen
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>>257799939
Maybe for the first few hours. Then they become annoying.
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>>257799961
SMT I had the best partner/waifu/heroine. 10/10 looks, 10/10 loyalty, 10/10 ability
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>>257800080
because shit
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>>257795712
> Not Frost Ace

C'mon man, I'm trying to like you.
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>>257799961
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>>257798378
i beg the differ.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kv3rtPD0C-s
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>>257799862
>>257800052
I was only pretending to be a faggot.
But seriously go play some fucking SNES SMTs
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>>257795712
Get a load of these plebs
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>>257796154
Yeah, Zelenin seems like an idiot.
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>>257800548
that and you'll be hearing the Law theme every goddamn minute
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>>257800441
It's got the best boss theme too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0IDL5XWQVo
DIE FALSE MESSIAH
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>>257795712
>watch the DeSu2 anime
>it's pretty bad, but oh well, I expected that
>suddenly
>HEE-HO
>HEE-HO
Black Frost is probably one of my favourite demons, especially after that.
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>>257800665
That's a shame. SJ's law theme is incredible.
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>>257800457
SMT snes

>What I though it was going to be
Boring, grind heavy, guide dammit

>What I got
Exploration, Thor nuked japan in the name of murcia , Pascal the Cerberus looks happy

Game pretty good
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>>257800327
>>257800547
plebs.
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Never 5get ;_;
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>>257800834
It's not even the best law theme
SMT1 best law theme
SMT2 best chaos theme
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>>257800834
It is, but it plays so goddamn much once you're locked into the Law path it gets very grating
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>>257800864
Did it age well, or is it like old RPGs which are a clusterfuck of unintuitive menus?
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>>257801038
They're both good but I wish they would get expanded more. The loops are so short.
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>>257801032
funny how a computer program is the biggest bro.
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>>257796183
Damn, why is Raidou so cool.
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>>257801385
It's the fucking coat.
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>>257801032
>"Oh, a computer. He'll probably shit himself and go HAL on everyone's ass."
>Stays your bro all the way through.

based Arthur.
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>>257796183
A cat named Goat?
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>>257800370
You fucking crap-ass.
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>>257801264
It feels just like Soul hackers so I got in to it easy the only problem is some skills are to long to fit in the text box
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>>257801264
2 aged far better than the first, but they're both very playable. The UI is pretty good, but it will take a while to get used to because of how different it is from the other SMT games.
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>>257801551
Gouto
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>>257801032
I teared up more when the P.F. died in Fragile Dreams tbh.
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>>257801527
I was shocked too. I was just waiting for him to fuck with the demon program or let out poison gas or something.
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>>257801791
Goat-o, got it.
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>>257801002
>>257800547

Fuck, you guys might have a point. Then again, Frost Ace in Strange Journey gives you the Frost cannon that carried me through the entire game...
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>>257798790
DDS 1 physical is insane once you get Ragnarok.
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>>257802893

Ragnarok was pretty good. My only problem is that I gimped the rest of my party members just to use Physical Serph. I kept running out of money.
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>>257803356
Who needs other party members when you can destroy literally everything.
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I wish I could fuck this game.

Honestly I've played Xenogears, Xenoblade Chronicles, almost all the Final Fantasies, Ni no Kuni, Chrono Trigger, the Personas, Suikoden II. But at the end of day something about SMT3 still strikes me. I think it's the best JRPG of all time.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RiHmQcHa84
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>>257803575

Yeah, but I didn't even get to use Ragnarok until the end of the last dungeon.
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>>257803575
There are better skills to rush. You can get the magic repel combo before ravana, which utterly destroys most bosses
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Im just starting Devil Summoner and im at the name select screen

now im autistic and have a thing for picking the canon name in RPGs

should i name him Raidou Kuzunoha or input my real name? does it really matter?
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>co-ordinate 136

Who thought this shit was a good idea?
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>>257804606
former
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>>257800864
Playing through it now, fuck it's good.

The music is literally incredible as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8TCwi0z3BU
>dat home theme
>dat terminal theme
>dat game over theme
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>>257804620
I like that dungeon
>Nice mirror puzzle
>a small nudge at Heat and seriph
>Mirror puzzles are comfy

>>257805041
Yes
remember to abuse human minions later in game for easy high level demons
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>>257805331
it was really cool remembering all the different subtle parts of DDS1 that forshadowed major shit in 2
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>>257804419
I'm pretty sure I got Ragnarok before ravana
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Currently playing SMT4 for the third time, trying to get neutral. I've played a bit of Nocturne before, but never finished it. If I have the disk still, can I emulate it with relative ease, or does it not matter? I'd love to go back and finish it.

I forget exactly where I left off, I remember doing the tower thing with the weavers, and maybe beating the fiends that are available around that time.
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>>257805571
I'm emulating Nocturne with a laptop, so I'm sure you'll be fine.
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>>257805571
it's pretty easy to emulate, I don't think having the disc really matters, using an ISO would be the same
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What's the point of "route splits" in Megaten when Neutral is the absolute best in every single game other than Nocturne, in which the best route in True Demon which also makes "route splits" pointless?
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>>257805765
for fags that wanna be different
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>>257805856
the games shame you when you don't go the best route, tho. this was really obvious in 4 when you don't go neutral.
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Reminder Demons are assholes and are never your friends. Except for Pixie
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>>257805765

I really wish each route in Megatens would get a unique set of final boss.
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>>257805703
>>257805725
Tanks brahs, I'll look into that when I have bandwidth available.

In the meantime, SMT4 is amazing, especially for a handheld RPG. I've got like, 130 some odd hours put into it. Kind of annoying how the neutral end is so hard to get though, especially when it's my nature to try to finish every quest and stuff, but I can't cause alignment and whatnot.
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>>257805331
>small nudge
As soon as I saw the princess painting I knew it was foreshadowing. It was pretty obvious.
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>>257806246
It took me till the end of the dungeon to get what was going on with the princes
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>>257806246
Yeah but you think it's just forshadowing the events right after, instead of all the shit in 2.
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>>257806153
Devil Survivor had four equally valid routes; then they ruined it with Overclocked.
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>>257806638
What did Overclocked do?
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>>257806717
Added an extra day that made all routes the same, even the Yuzu Bad End.
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>Beat Persona 3 and Persona 4
>Didn't enjoy the combat at all
>Start Devil Summoner
>All dis fun
this game is going to be great, i can feel it
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Persona 4 was my first jrpg and I played it because of /v/'s recommendation.Then I played SMT3 and Strange Journey and was blown away. Where you guys at to recommend me a SMT game.
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>>257806810
>don't enjoy the combat in P3 and 4

do you just hate fun?
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>>257807164
Digital Devil Saga
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>>257805765
Did you not see SMT II Law end or something? I'm usually Neutral with a love for wurlds of str, but SMT II Law is my favorite ending in the series.
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>>257807254
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>>257794927
Atlus also made friday the thirteenth on NES though
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>>257807452
>Laws most powerful being see the light of his lords sins

How can Satan be so based
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>>257807647
I don't know what's worse, P3 and P4 waifufags that refuse to play any other Persona or SMT game, or the SMT fans' palpable butthurt about Persona being more popular.
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guys i had alot of fun emulating the ps2 smt and persona games should i give the ds ones a shot?
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>>257808570
I would be sour too if a spin off made for otaku's and neckbeards take priority over the main series and other spin offs.
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>>257808761
Yea but if you are emulating look for the widescreen desmume
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>>257808761
The DS games aren't that similar, especially Devil Survivor.
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>>257808761
yes

strange journey is best, DeSu is better on 3DS
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>>257808934
Persona existed before 3 and 4, and it was no more made for otakus and neckbeards than maineline SMT.
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>>257808934
>implying neckbeards dont prefer SMT to Persona
>implying there haven't been tons of other SMT games made since Persona got popular

shut your pathetic whining mouth
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>>257809274
Nice argument.
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>>257809274
Persona 3/4 were made for neckbeards who had a lackluster school life. There is no reason to play P3/P4 execpt for the VN elements which only attract losers.
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>>257808970
>>257809016
>>257809031
what do you do in strange journey?
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>>257809016
Devil Survivor is nothing like regular SMT games. Still a great game, but combat-wise it's completely different.
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>>257809697
>Persona
>VN
Have you ever actually played a visual novel?

As for saying there is no other reason to play it, does the fun combat and great music not count?
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>>257809730
You play as doom guy trying to save the world from the cyber demon.
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>>257809697
>school life started with P3
>DAT MEANS THE ENTIRE SPINOFF WAS MADE FOR OTAKUS AND LOSERS
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>>257809730
You go on a strange journey.
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>>257809730

Fuck some bitches.
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>>257809730
you're a badass mareen saving the world with a bunch of other badass mareens trapped in a literal hell on earth

first person dungeon crawling, sadistic dungeons/puzzles, everyone dying, lots of fun

basically Doom with demons
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>>257809959
Not even him, but the combat is shit

The music is all opinions though. I found it enjoyable
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>>257809985
>>257810096
>>257810116
doom guy with demons
>bueno
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>>257810116
>Doom with demons
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>>257809730
Save the world, nigguh. Plus it's probably one of the hardest recent SMT games, so if you can smash it out then everything else shouldn't be too bad.

The final boss is one of the most retarded difficulty spikes in any SMT game though.
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>>257810206
>the combat is shit
explain why
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>>257810116
i feel like Strange Journey is one of the few games to do space marines correctly, no idea why.
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>>257809959
>>Persona
>>VN
>Have you ever actually played a visual novel?
I said VN elements. Persona 3 didn't even let you control your party and Tarturus was ass. Persona 4 stepped up on gameplay but the dungeons were shallow. The music is pretty neat though.
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>>257810206
>the combat is shit

It's really not much different from other SMT games

3 and FES suffered from not being able to control your party but that's about it
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>>257810316
It's piss easy and boils down to hit every enemies weakness in order to get an all out attack to win

There's no depth
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>>257810469
People always forget about the dungeons which is the main reason you play SMT games.
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>>257810325
>I said VN elements
What, like talking to other characters? Yeah, that totally hasn't been a feature of every RPG ever.
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>>257810523
We're not talking about Nocturne.
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>>257810605
> Yeah, that totally hasn't been a feature of every RPG ever.
Yeah but in Persona it's the main feature.
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>>257810635
>Nocturne
>all out attack
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Why do people call SMT mainline a neckbeard game while Persona 3/4 uses Japanese honorifics?
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Which demon would you fuck?
Pic extremely relate
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>>257810997
>Isamu

Fucking faggot. Why is everyone such a dick
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>>257811195
weeaboo =/= neckbeard
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>>257811225
Hua Po
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>>257811403
They're both equally pathetic.
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>>257811343
If you go for his reason I think he says sorry but fuck that fuck every reason
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>>257811573
Having the same degree of pathetic does not make two different things synonymous.
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Could you babies shut the fuck up about your autistic dislike for a spin-off title? I'd rather hear about which demon you'd like to impregnate then about what you fags deem as shit.
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>>257811781
That reminded of that one thread where a guy jerked off to tile patters
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>>257811225
Lots.

Leanan Sidhe, Scathach, Cybele assuming she wouldn't cut my dick off, Mother Harlot, Skadi, and of course Alilat
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EVERY

GODDAMN

TIME

This wurld of vit is bullshit
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>>257812290
>Alilat
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>>257812508

>kyuuyaku megaten

Wait what? The patch came out?
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>>257812787
2011 is here my friend
Ask SMTG for the patch
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>>257813086

What the fuuuuuuuck. Thanks anon-kun.
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>>257813358
You're welcome
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>>257811781
The green bird with the ass
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>>257798790
SMT I and SMT II - DeSu 2 STR is fine. You can even go STR in SMT IV, but MAG is probably better in the long run.
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>>257800052
Because autism.
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>>257811781
This fine specimen of a woman.
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>>257801764
One thing that seriously pissed me off about SMT I was the bind status effect. It was basically poison and paralysis and I had no idea how to get rid of it.
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>>257806197
You can do all the quests after alignment lock. In fact in Neutral you have to do most of the sidequests to finish the game.
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>>257806792
Gin's route didn't have the extra day right?
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>>257807452
Man, both Chaos and Law endings are fucking great in SMT II. Too bad the neutral ending sucks.
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>>257809274
>Tons of other SMT games made since Persona got popular.

And there have been probably 3 times the number of fucking Persona spinoffs. Fuck off.
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>>257810309
Yeah, I had to go full on casual mode and just grind out the macca to use some demons with codes because I didn't want to deal with Mem Aleph.
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So when does Soul Hackers' difficulty pick up? 5 hours in, by far one of the easiest SMT games I've played so far.
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>>257813614
It is still in beta and pretty buggy. And I think the last part isn't finished translating. So we are basically beta testing for DDStranslation, but whatever as long as it is out who gives a fuck.
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>>257816231
Do you really think if it wasn't for P3 that any mainline SMT games past Nocturne would be getting released in the west?
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>>257809730

You play a good game instead.
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>>257811781
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>>257814949

STR was shit in 4, but DEX kinda took over for it. Those high crit chance moves kicked ass with Power Charge.
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I still need to get around to beating Digital Devil Saga 2 before I start Nocturne.

I have so many games on my HDLoader PS2. I haven't even touched Devil Summoner yet.
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>>257816713
>Mainline past Nocturne.
So you mean the two that came out? SJ and IV? Yes they would have. One came out in 2009 and the other 2013. So unless Atlus would have went completely under without Persona, yes we would have gotten it.
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>>257816829
Right I forgot Dex took over for Phys attacks in IV. My bad.
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>>257816981
Doubt it.

Also doubt we would've seen any of the ones on 3DS.
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>>257810469
>It's really not much different from other SMT games

No press turn combat is a big deal.
Along with non cuztomisable party members that can't be switched in battle.
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>>257818345
You're right, there's no press turn. You just get extra turns for exploiting weaknesses and crits, and so does the enemy.
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>>257818345
>No press turn combat is a big deal.
SMT 1, 2, and SJ didn't have that
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>>257812508
>Fighting Minotaur was easier than making my way to him

Thank you Cerberus friend! Your soft, squishy body absorbed his blows perfectly. Now for my part of the deal.
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>>257820114
And that's why they have inferior combat to 3 and 4. But still better than persona due to demon managment.
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>>257812508
Was this "MT1" before SMT?
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>>257820857
Yup
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>>257787751
I enjoyed it for a while, but demon negotiations rubbed my ass raw with all their
>give me 200 macca
>yes
>give me a bead
>yes
>I'm unsure, give me 300 macca
>yes
>O.K. see you later loser
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>>257821086
>not threatening to rape them to get them to join you
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>>257821086
>Not always saying no
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>>257812508
How many SNES SMT games were there exactly?
Any of them still worth a play, or too archaic/bad-plot?
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>>257821086
You gotta learn when to tell them to go fuck themselves.
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>>257821623
>SMT
We MT now
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>>257821623
SMT I was very enjoyable, and SMT II is easily my favorite SMT

So far MT I is pretty good, it feels a lot more unforgiving in the beginning than SMT I and II, though.
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>>257821721
>>257821228
Did that too, also didn't yield recruitment in most cases. I was casual anon's.

How are the Raido games? That music is bitchin and its on sale on psn right now.
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>>257821623
4 SMT/MT

1 Last Bible

2 Majin Tensei
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>>257822173
This sounds like a hell of a backlog chore to get into this series.
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>>257811781
Nadja, Alice and Pixie.
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>>257823485
Prior games in the series aren't absolutely required to enjoy the more accessible ones.

Start with Nocturne or DDS or Persona 2, imo.
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