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If PC gaming is so great, why doesn't it have any Japanese games?
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It does, in fact Steam has been getting more and more of them lately.
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Because Japan loves handheld stuff.
Anyway, we have 100% OJ so that's okay.
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>>257765193
>just about every single major Japanese IP can be found on PC
>tons of PC ONLY japanese games
>rest pretty much emulate-able nowadays
I know this be b8,
but I just know some people are really this delusional.
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>>257765193
because Japanese games suck

/thread
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Because western pigs.
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Because no one in Japan has a PC more powerful than a toaster.

No, really. The average PC there is a simple office computer. People on 2ch bitched about Rance IX's requirements being too much, which when I checked, were early-Vista level.
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If PC is so great then why didn't they make a PC 2?
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>Japanese games
>Good
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>>257765193
There was Japan Indie Festival yesterday in Steam, what you talking about.
Also there other services more focused in japanese games like desura
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>>257766404
>Hotel Mario
Is this against the West or For it?
Because Hotel Mario is the best thing ever.
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>>257767180
my name isn't tim
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Serious answer: Japan is somehow both the most behind third world with decent resources and the future at the same time.

They still have fax machines and think PCs are purely for programming and accounting in some areas.

They go for aesthetic appeal but have nor can get the budget that western AAA games have outside a rare few.

Half the reason illusion games were so shit in optimization is because the average player on steam would be using a 780 for gaming, and a titan black for rendering and multitasking in comparison.
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What anime are you guys watching right now?
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>>257766993
This. There's no market. Why would you develop in a field there's little profit in?
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>>257767408
boku no /v/
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>>257766654
Go to bed Phil.
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>saying this right now
https://www.humblebundle.com/weekly
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Please take it easy and relax with this image!
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>>257765193
PC has all the hentai games
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>>257767506
I pick Japanese. I'm not a gay.
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>>257767408

No anime for now, just Gaim.

Fuck Micchy.
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>>257767647
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pc has lots, it's just that a big chunk is untranslated
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>>257766404
>Pacman
>shit for weeaboos

nigga you dun fucked up.
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>>257765364
But most of the ones on Steam aren't big name save for Ys and older Final Fantasy titles.
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>>257765193
Palutena-sama please fuck me
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Metal Gear Solid V is a Japanese game, isn't it?
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>>257767962
lurk a bit before you post again
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This is why I also get the Nintendo systems. To play all the relevant japanese games
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>>257768023
And MGSV
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>>257765193
Actually there are more Japanese games on PC than on consoles.
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>>257768189
there are more games from every country on PC than on consoles
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>>257768023
They're still Japanese PC games friendo.
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There's a difference between a japanese game and weebshit.
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Metal Gear Solid V just got announce on steam.

oh wait this is bait.
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>>257765193
Almost all modern Japanese porn games are on PC.
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>>257765193
there are like 90000 japanese pc games. theyre just all pornographic or doujin games.
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>>257765193
Nice bait OP. PC has literally THOUSANDS of Japanese games.
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>>257766404
Most PC only Japanese games aren't big name save for a couple Ys games.
>every single major Japanese IP can be found on PC
Not legally and not available for purchase.
>emulation
What if I want to buy my games? I suppose I could emulate off disc, but then I'm either not playing the game the way devs intended or I'm not paying for the device some of these companies put out that help supports said companies.
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>>257768049
are you retarded?
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Are eroges games?
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>>257765193
nigga do you even capitalism?
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>>257768580
>Most PC only Japanese games aren't big name save for a couple Ys games.
That's a problem how?
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>>257768718
Are you?
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>>257768742
Mostly no, sometimes yes.
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>>257768742

Some are, most aren't.
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>>257768742
>mentioning eroge instead of the 10000 Japanese doujin games that are PC exclusive.
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>>257768580
>muh big name games
>Game name is more important than the game
I hope you're joking.
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>>257766404
>Angry Birds
>a game
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>>257768580

Then buy it, and emulate it?

You get your physical copy, they get your money, and you get to play it on the PC.
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Because japanese games are shit and weeaboo and OMG I LOVE HENTAI ESPECIALLY FUTANARI AND I HAVE 200 GIGABYTES ON MY HARDDRIVE, I AM ALSO LEARNING JAPANESE
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>>257768834
I can't what's bait or not anymore.

But you're probably just bating anyway.
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Eroges on steam when? I want to let everyone know that I'm raping women in rance.
>Add it as Non steam game
It's not the same
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>No 'I wish I had a GF' Playstation titles
>No E for everyone, Difficulty isn't fun Nintendo games

Sounds like heaven
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>>257768742
ero

GE
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>>257769116
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>>257767891
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>wanting japanese games
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>>257769176

Even if they allowed eroge on steam, Rance will never be released in the west. Alicesoft has said it'll never happen, and their website doesn't even allow access to non-japanese IPs (yes you can proxy around it, but that's not the point).

Why? Because they don't want the controversy. Because they're fully aware that something that can fly in Japan doesn't mean it will elsewhere.
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>mfw OP is so retarded he doesn't know PC has more Japanese games than consoles
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>>257769116
>>257769116
try harder next time
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>>257768458
>>257768484
What do porn games even matter?

>>257768747
Its a problem because the PC library is missing a lot of really good stuff that a lot of people would go out and buy (plenty of Shin Megami Tensei and Persona games, Kingdom Hearts, Pokemon, Zelda, Star Fox, Fire Emblem, Ape Escape, Bravely Default, Rune Factory, Harvest Moon...) PC is missing out on a lot of series for purchase.

>>257768942
Pretty sure I addressed that already.

>>257768935
You misunderstand me. The name isn't more important than the game itself, however many titles are big name for a reason. While not always the case, a lot of these titles are so big and well known because they're often high quality. PC is missing a lot of that.
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>>257765193
bait / bait
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Whats is AA2
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>>257769709
>more
But what about quality?
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>>257769881
Doujins on steam when?
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>>257769797
>Persona games
>good
Yeh no, they're shit.
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>>257769962
They're working on the Japanese market. I just got a mail they're changing the Steam wallet from dollar to yen.

I live in Europe.
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>>257769940
Yes because your 'panties quest' games are better right?
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>>257769992
I like how you single out one game.
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>>257769453

>Recettear
>Weeb

I'll give you that. I wish there was less loli in it.

>Low quality

Nigga, I bet you can't into economics. Please... Plus, that game was on there far before any of the current weeb shit.
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>Ctrl+F "Falcom"
>No results

You're a faggot.
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>>257769453
yeah, what about it?

I bought my physical copy, it's beautiful. The box is a nice sturdy material and it's the size PC game boxes used to be. The old blizzard Warcraft 3 sized boxes.

>>257769797
>PC is missing out on a lot of series for purchase.

As I said, those don't get PC releases because by and large, the average japanese PC is quite honestly a really shitty machine. Japan has always had this mindset of "Japan sales first, always", even when Japanese sales only make up a fraction of what they make worldwide.
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>>257769797
Why do those games that you just mentioned matter?

I think you have a serious case of double standards.
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>>257769453
>Dark Souls in the background

Shit I just noticed that.
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>>257769453
>What happened to the service we knew and loved?
>we knew and loved?
>we
Try harder
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>>257770185
>I wish there was less loli in it.

No fuck that. The translators censored the work because of that sentiment.
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>>257770218
>Wanting normalfags to infest falcom games
It's already bad with Celceta and Sen.
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>>257770164
I don't think I own any of those sort of games.
When I said quality I was more referring to stuff mentioned here >>257769797

>>257770414
Are you implying porn games are anywhere near as important than games developed for other reasons?
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>>257770232
>the average japanese PC is quite honestly a really shitty machine
Stop listening to based retards spreading that shit rumor. The average Japanese guy who play Japanese game has a graphic card good enough to watch the animes they download from winny, most of them are in 1080p format too. Try watching that shit on a 'shitty computer' and see how it goes.
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>>257770538

Ehhh... Celceta is still alright. And Ys has always had dem waifu's anyway.

At least I enjoyed it.
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>>257770594
As a matter of fact, I am.
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>>257770594
Doujins games are just as good and just as fun though.
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>>257770675
>Try watching that shit on a 'shitty computer' and see how it goes.

I know, I used to have a computer that couldn't play my Code Geass episodes in anything higher than 480p.

It still doesn't change the fact that they bitched about IX's requirements, which were quite honestly pitiful.
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>>257765193
>she farted
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>>257767408
Bodacious Space Pirates
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>>257770874

Sometimes. Not every doujin game is as high in quality as Big Bang Beat.
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Japs suck at coding and can't into more than one or two systems, much less PC.
Even though coding for PC is easy peasy.
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>>257767408
Season 3 when
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>>257770947
Vocal minority that is if it's not some rumors some consolefag is spreading as well.
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>>257769116
What possesses you to shitpost his hard
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>>257771079
Of course, but a lot of them are really great and enjoyable games. Also apparently Playism's site crashed after they announced digital sales for Touhou 14 on their Japanese site.
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>>257770742
It was extremely casualized, but I still had fun with it. You don't even need to play Sen or listen to the JP players to see how awful Sen looks compared to previous kiseki games.
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Maybe I'd play the PC versions of more japanese games if they knew how to optimize their games worth a shit. It's sad when modders have to do their job for them.
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>>257771374
>buying a console to play games that are already on PC
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>>257770232
>Japan has always had this mindset of "Japan sales first, always", even when Japanese sales only make up a fraction of what they make worldwide.

There's nothing wrong with that. Develop for the market you know.
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>>257766404
Being this cherrypicking
>>257768940
It is a game whter you like it or not
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>>257767716
The "American" choices are all japanese developed games, and the "Japanese" choices are all western
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>>257770789
I don't now what to say then.
I can't think of any real argument against the idea that porn games are just as viable and important as anything else. I never really considered them and always thought of anything fanservicy or pornographic as low brow.
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>>257765193
>japanese games
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>>257771373

Oh come on, it was harder then 7.

I wouldn't say that they casualized anything, really; in fact my biggest complaint is the bloom.
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>>257765193
What are you implying?
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>>257771650
Greatest games of all time lists must make you mad.

>>257771737
Only game I have a strong desire to play there is Bunny Must Die.
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>>257771568
Steam just needs to become more Japanese-friendly.
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>>257765193

?
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>>257771636
I've sank thousands of hours into Japanese porn games. Considerably more than I have sank into Japanese console games on the PS3.
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>>257771650
>Le epic trashman!

Worst mayamy since ayy lmao
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>>257772007

A lot of those games aren't particularly good.

I should know, I own most of them.
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>>257771872
At least plays Astebreed
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Because it doesn't have Japanese games
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>>257772172
meant to quote >>257771737
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>>257767408
Gosick
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>>257771650
>Look guys, I'm a normalfag that goes to /v/!
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>>257771921
Japanese devs have long since written off PC as an enthusiast-only market. Hell, most devs don't even bother with consoles anymore, and once they all switch over to phone shit Japanese gaming will be dead for good.
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>>257771667
Arguing over which one is harder is stupid, they were both ridiculously easy. I know Ys isn't hard core hard, but I'd at least enjoy some challenge like in Oath or Origins.
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>>257767408
Urusei Yatsura, featuring best waifu.
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>>257771737
w-would someone buy me 100%orange juice :c
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>>257769453
>recettear
>dark souls in the background

nice b8
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>>257772394

Ridiculously easy my ass. At least compared to other modern games, there were some challenges.

If you want to complain about easy, talk about Origins.
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>>257771609
No shit, son.
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This is why a non-retard should be an idort these days OP.
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>>257765193

There isn't a PC gaming scene in Japan like there is in the rest of the world.

In Japan, people only go home to sleep and spend most of their time either at work or commuting to & from work. This left PC gaming largely to those who like Hentai games, and that's where the money went.

Now PC gaming in Japan has an awful stigma surrounding it, that you must be into ero-games like Rapelay or whatever. So people don't even want to admit that they have gaming PCs in their houses. Only NEETs who never leave their rooms are PC gamers.

So in a situation like that, why would a Japanese developer dedicate any time to creating a PC game? Only a tiny indie scene is starting to develop, and even they cater to Vita and 3DS anyway.
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>>257767408
Evanjellyon for the first time
Also torrenting MSG to watch it for the first time
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>>257767408
Space Dandy, Black Lagoon, Blue Exorcist (I watch Toonami), Aldnoah.Zero, Terror in Resonance, Sword Art Online II, and Sailor Moon Crystal.

>>257772054
That's a lot of porn.
I don't think I've ever played a Japanese porn game.

SotC HD, Kingdom Hearts HD, Valkyria Chronicles, and MGSIV on the other hand...

>>257772223
All right. I'll keep it in mind and might give it a try sometime.
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>>257767408
SDF Macross.

Best shit ever. I can't wait to catch on the rest of the franchise. Minmay is love.
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>>257767408
Jormungand
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>>257772830
>the rest of the franchise
You're in for a world of disappointment after you finish DYRL and Plus
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>>257772595
I'll buy it for you. Stick your email in the email field.
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>>257770478
>Silent hill not on the list
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>>257771737
One Way Heroics is a fucking steal. Over 60 hours of replay value for under 2 dollaroos
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>>257767408
Hunter x Hunter and JoJo
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>>257772381
Sadly this.
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>>257772715
>indie games on 3DS
I like Japan.
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>>257772929
Okay... I thought I had struck a goldmine for a moment. But I guess everything turns to shit when given enough time, right?
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>>257772715

>Japanese Indie market is only for Vita and 3DS

Most japanese indie games are on PC however.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zawk-CtKvl4
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>>257767408
Master of Martial Hearts
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>>257772743
>I don't think I've ever played a Japanese porn game.
>he's never played the greatest hero saga of all time
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>>257767506
I believe anon posted this pic satirically, because the "American" characters are all from Japanese games while all the "Japanese" characters he displayed were from Western games.
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>>257767408
fuck off ruggarell
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>>257772636
Hugo was boring easy since he was ranged. Yunica was easy. I had a bit trouble with Toal. I honestly cannot remember a boss I had trouble with on celceta or 7. I did enjoy both of them.
Also
>Playing other modern games
G1
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>>257772715

People think Japan is some futuristic wonderland, but would die of shock if they actually saw how backwards they are in reality. Windows XP is still widely used, and those old 90's beige boxes are the bleeding edge.
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>>257772972
thanks a-anon~!
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>>257765193
because Japanese games are shit?
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>>257773338
what Rance games should I start with?
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>>257773439
That's not the email field, Anonymous.
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>>257769453
>X Blade
I didn't even know that was on Steam. Even if it wasn't very good, I used to own that on PS3 and sold it before ever playing much of it. I've been wanting to play it again.

The best part is, its available for cheap right now. Thanks for reminding me about this anon.
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>>257765193
>implying anyone wants that crap
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>>257765193
We do have MGSV though.

And Hatoful Boyfriend, in glorious 1080Pidgeon and 60 flaps per second.
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>>257773268
It's not all bad, DYRL alone is a masterpiece.
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>>257773423

>hating on Arcades

See the video on >>257773272, I'd rather have Japans "backwards reality" than our shitty cinematic and >muh graphics games the west is shitting out.
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>>257773272

made for PCs that run Realplayer, AOL, and have a Bonzi buddy in the corner
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>>257773487
Play Sengoku Rance, it's easy to find and there's a full translation of it.
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>>257773534
anon there is no email field anon...
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>>257767408
stardust crusaders, space dandy, and terror in resonance
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The western otaku that's into VNs are the scum of the earth. Worse than a pack of niggers playing madden.
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>>257772743
Think I've played Rance 7 alone more than Valkyria Chronicles, Disgaea 4 and Atelier series combined.

Don't get me wrong, I like all of those mainstream Jap games too.. but there is very little motivation for me to play them. I get the same kind of excitement out of the average anime and it takes a lot less effort to watch that.

So I just watch anime instead.
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>>257773414

>Playing other modern games

You got me there I suppose. Mostly shit on my Vita or indie games on PC though.

I'm actually excited for TW3 though, so I'll probably be disappointed with it like I was with TW2.
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>>257773712

Go 1cc Crimzon Clover World Ignition on Arcade Unlimited and then talk to me you little shit
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>>257772929

I liked 7...

>>257773487

People say start with Sengoku, but honestly that's kind of a self-justification for the fact that for the longest time it was the only one translated. It is the 7th game in the story after all.

Don't PLAY the first game. Read the digest version of 1's remake, since 01 won't be translated any time soon.
Play 02
Play 3, 4, 4.1, 4.2, where were all translated by Maria over at /haniho/ in vg.
5D will take some time since it's taking a while, but unlike the last time they tried translating it, the guy translating and editing now is actually making progress (despite being a heavy alcoholic).
6 won't be translated until 5D is done.
Sengoku (7) is already good to go.
Don't expect Quest (8) to be translated for several years. The game is massive in size.
9 might get translated one day. It's actually not a particularly long game in comparison to Quest.
Kichikuou, while non-canon, has recently finished translating and editing and is currently in bugtesting.
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>>257773884
Call every game shit so you'll never be disappointed when they are shit and pleasantly surprised when they're decent or good.
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>>257765193
Because computers in japan didn't catch on for gaming because of kanji and the global market.
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>>257767408
Sabagebu is one of the better comedies in recent years. The protagonist girl being a big jackass is so refreshing
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>>257774460

But I was hyped as fuck for TitS FC and it was the first game in years that my hype wasn't wasted on.

I think I've learned to realize which games are shit and which are good now.
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>>257774287
Reset Quest fucking when?
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>>257774661
I wish SC was here already. My moon is only decent enough to under the gist of the conversation at the beginning of the game.
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>>257769453
>posting four images of fortune summoners.
what do you not like wyvern slayers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYI0Y9ETruI
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>>257774695
>tfw when I crossed the threshold and am know genuinely aroused by lolis

Fuck this, I knew this place would eventually turn me into this.
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>>257774695
>sexualizing Reset

You're a monster.
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>>257775930
Welcome in /v/ anon. You're one of us now!
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>>257775930
There is nothing wrong with it unless you enact on 3d loli. Don't listen to normal/moralfags.
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>>257765193
>If PC gaming is so great, why doesn't it have any Japanese games?

Hello Ruggarell.
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>>257769453
X-Blades is the only weeaboo game in that pic.
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>>257775754
I think I need to go back and replay this
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>>257774460
>Some of it got in my eyes...
It could be worse.
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>>257766993
What I like about this is that Japanese games actually care about optimization more than western games. I don't expect every game to run on my 2004 laptop, but if a game could potentially run on it then it should. Western devs are way to accustomed to consuming resources for no technical benefit.
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>>257767408
Sabagebu!
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>>257777383
>What I like about this is that Japanese games actually care about optimization more than western games.

Shame they rarely pull said optimization off.

And I really do mean it's a shame. Japs just can't fucking into programming sometimes.
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>Video game discussion kills the thread
>>257777370
What, I didn't even know there was an estelle doujin.
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>>257777565
Illusion is particularly bad at this. Some of their games literally cannot run above ~15fps
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>>257773348
haha u are right my man! please like and subscribe!
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>>257777684
A few, actually.
http://exhentai.org/tag/character:estelle+bright
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