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So why can't link be a girl? I think it would be interesting.

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So why can't link be a girl? I think it would be interesting. It would also breath a bit of life into the crusty old series.
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>>257685434
How would changing Link's gender change anything about how the games play?
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>>257685434
Haha, fuck off
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You see this tthread /v/? Get used to it.
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>>257685548

That's the thing. It wouldn't. Why can't link be a girl?
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>>257685434
Because then she would be a gross lesbian for loving Zelda.
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I would hit that shit for days. I'm talking about young boy link.
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>>257685434
>I think it would be interesting

How would changing his sex be interesting? Just admit you want female Link porn.
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>>257685434
There would be no difference


Link would do what Link does, solve puzzles, traverse dungeons, and beat the bad guy, basically a skin swap

I wouldn't mind it, but it wouldn't make sense for Link to be a girl all of a sudden
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>>257685434
Who gives a fuck? why can't Zelda be a feminine boy instead?
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>>257685695
Zelda doesn't feel anything for Link. He's nothing but a tool to her.
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>>257685689
I don't care one way or the other, just asking how it would, and I quote, "breath a bit of life into the crusty old series"
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Link is such a bland and boring character that it wouldn't matter what what gender he was. People just get emotional because "MUH SJW, MUH FEMINIST BOOGYMAN"

I want Link to be a girl in the next game just to see everyone cry about it.
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>>257685689
Because the story is adjusted to it and changing it randomly to fit what some random person wants is pure stupidity, as the character has already been established.
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Why does it have to be Link?

Why take a popular, established franchise and demand to be changed for no real reason. Instead of leeching off another's success for little more than socio-political cred, why not add something new?
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Because there is no real reason for Link to be a girl except "just because"

If people want some idea of diversifying main characters in the video game industry, they need to stop trying to shoe-horn gender and race changes to already existing characters. Those characters are already their own thing, and changing them doesn't add anything to the character and only alienates the people that identified with those characters in the first place.

If you want to make a Zelda game with a female protagonist, have one that follows Zelda or Impa. You don't need to shoe horn Link into a Female Roll.
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b o i p u s s y
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It's been done.
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>>257685829

Maybe the character interactions would be different.
Imagine zelda's face when she realizes the hero of time is a girl
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>>257686271
How would that change the game though? You're just talking about extraneous fluff that has no bearing on the actual game.
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>>257686114
>If you want to make a Zelda game with a female protagonist, have one that follows Zelda or Impa.
This. A million times this. An Zelda or Impa game could be fun as fuck.
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>>257686250
i don't want anything to do with that doujinshi
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>>257686379

I'm not talking about gameplay elements. I'm talking about character interactions taking on a different context through gender.
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>>257686617
OK, but what does that have to do with "breathing a bit of life" into the game?
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Since the topic has pretty much been shot down already, is there any franchise that would be different at all with it's typically male character switched with a female one?
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>>257686617
>Zelda
>character interaction
What's the difference between a guy in a green tunic blankly staring at the talking NPC and a girl in a green tunic blankly staring at the talking NPC?
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>>257686827
Sengoku Rance maybe?
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>>257686735

Because those characters would be interesting and maybe stray from the normal formulaic characters that come with each new zelda game.

I hope that answer your question :^)
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>>257686827

Metal Gear Solid.
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I know there are many different incarnations of Link but do they really all have to be male?
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>>257685434

She'd get raped and impregnated by a moblin and never save zelda
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>>257686432
Weren't there already a couple of Zelda games? One from the same CD-i people who gave us laughing elf man.jpg and another that was some weird top-down adventure game or something.
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>>257686950
You're still not saying how that would make the game play differently though.
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>>257686827
Any porn games, I guess.
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Because it would be fucking pointless and stupid. Do you want Mario to be female as well? Would that change anything?

Please don't be one of those autists who spams this thread every day.
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Link has no personality

him being a girl wouldn't change a thing

What if Gordon Freeman was a girl?
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I wouldn't mind if they made link a grill. Nothing much would change. Just more sexy art for me to... enjoy.
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>>257687142
You mean Gordon Freewoman
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>>257687142
If Gordon Freeman were a girl, the promo art where he's always being grabbed by barnacles would take on a whole new meaning.
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>>257687038
Ignore the shitposter
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>>257686827
smash bros
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>>257687020
>CD-i games
Regardless of your opinion of them, the ones where you play as Zelda played exactly like Link would. I'd like a game where you actually play as Zelda, doing Zelda things with Zelda's abilities and traits.
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>>257687038

But I keep telling you... and I will tell you again, so read carefully. Changing the gender would not change the game play (this means the game will not play differently, please understand this). However, changing links gender may make player view the game differently without changing much else. I'm not saying this is a good or bad thing, that it changes the game play. I am simply stating that it may be interesting for better or worse.

Please note, one more time that the game play will not change.

I hope I have made that point clear now.
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Just making it a choice would be fine.

Link's just a blank slate anyways.
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>>257685689
Why not make him black?
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Last thread was pretty funny, wonder how this one will go.
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If it doesn't matter why should it be changed?
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>>257687405
>Changing the gender would not change the game play (this means the game will not play differently, please understand this)

So then it wouldn't, as you say, "breath a bit of life into the crusty old series" at all.
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>>257687528

If it doesn't matter why shouldn't it be changed.
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IF LINK WAS A GIRL I WOULD SHOVE IT INTO BOTH HIS BOY AND GIRLPUSSIES
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>>257687481
>>257687528
STOP TRIGGERING ME YOU BIGOT SHITLORDS
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>>257687528

If it doesn't matter why should it matter if it is changed.
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>>257685434

>So why can't link be a girl?

Because Link is a boy.

It's like taking a look at greek mythology and asking "Why can't Heracles be a girl?".
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>>257686927
i love this meme bro
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>>257687349
10 years back nobody would given much of a fuck, but today this would cause an enormous SJW shitstorm
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>>257687601
I don't care whether or not they change it, what I'm questioning is why anyone claims it will make the game somehow more fresh and new.
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Link is a character, an entity. People recognize him as the face of the Zelda franchise, changing him would be dumb and pointless.

Also the Japanese games refer to him as the Hero, with male identifiers. Link is always the reincarnation of the Hero, except in the case of Wind Waker.
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>>257687690

because it matters that it doesnt matter
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>>257687582

I think changing the way people view the story through gender would be interesting.
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>>257687690
Well clearly it matters otherwise we wouldn't have this thread.
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>>257687165
>webm
Nice. I think my favorite part is Mario and Link's abrupt making out.
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>>257687690
because everybody knows that the only you want that change is to masturbate and there's nothing more behind it
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>>257687481
Easy answer to "why make the character black" is the whole spiel of the various nonwhite ethnicities don't get a whole bunch of roles as leads and there's plenty of shows where they're rare background characters. That whole example of the young black girls not wanting black dolls because they only thought of white girl dolls as pretty.

It's been good for deaf people to see deaf characters, it's been good for black people to see positive black characters, etc etc.

Of course, this is Link, and his pointy eared blonde dorkboy appearance is set in stone so changing it would come across as nothing but a marketing ploy that Nintendo wouldn't spring for.

Zelda game with a non-link protagonist that was a chick? I'd be down for it, personally, don't know about you guys.
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Lore-wise there is no real reason Link couldn't be a girl. Design-wise there is no good reason for Link TO be a girl, and making that change without good reason is destructive, compulsory crap.
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>>257685434
I'd be fine with every main character being female

The problem is those games don't sell well.

Look what happened when they took Samus out of the suit and started forcing all the female maternal bullshit down everyone's throats.

Unless she's just some stripper (Lollipop Chainsaw, Bayonetta) no one will buy the games. And that's hardly more "feminist" than just having the character be male.
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>>257687693
Women are naturally a lot weaker than men though so it just isn't as believable as Heracles being a man.
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>>257687923
What about a non-Link protagonist that was a fat, bald, transgender black woman?
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>>257685689

>It wouldn't

Then why bother changing an established, money making character?
If it ain't broken, don't fix it.
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>>257687993
True IRL as a heavy tendency but why should it matter in nonearth/fantastical settings
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>>257687502
>that fucking post
The mental gymnastics to come to such a conclusion are truly impressive.

Though I still stand by Courage Wolf's wise words.
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>>257688097

It's not fixing it if it doesn't matter.
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Why can't Samus be a man?

It would definitely breath some fresh air into Metroid and probably make a better main character than Other M
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>>257688097

Are you saying that it would be a bad thing for link to be a girl?
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>>257688084

tingle? I would play a tingle game
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>>257687836
But that has nothing to do with the game.
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>>257687836
How? Link has no character, no personality, no lines of dialogue. He's a blank slate for the character to self-insert as. A 'Link" to the player so to speak. It would change nothing about the game other than the fact that Link would have tits this time.
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>>257688084

Counterpoint, nonLink gerudo protagonist
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>>257688289

>Changing the gender of the characters in a game has nothing to do with the game

This statement is wrong.
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>>257688242
Not the guy you were responding to, but yes, it would be a bad thing to change the gender of a character that is over 20 years old.
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>>257688242
Yes.

Girls have cooties.
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>>257687982
>Bayonetta
>Stripper
>Also thinking Samus was only revealed as female recently

You're an idiot
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>>257688371
>Gerudo protagonist
Seconded.
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>>257685434
Why can't Link be a man? He always looked like a bbc sucking blonde swedish faggot. Why not make him a Crusade knight?
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>>257688395

I've got friends of facebook that changed their gender at 20+ years old.
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>>257687502
>being attracted to tits and vagoo makes you gay
Who knew
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Link shouldn't be a girl. 'Mysterious boy in green who saves the day' is his mythos.

By all means have a female protagonist but don't make it Link.
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>>257688387
You're focusing purely on things that have nothing to do with actually playing the game though. You're missing the entire fucking point.
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>>257687783
he was totally the hero in WW they just thought he wasn't early on in the game, same as nobody had a clue that Tetra was Zelda, not even herself
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>>257688495
was that movie any good?
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>>257688495
Oh fuck off sweden hater.
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>>257688645
it is
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>>257688554

No, YOU'RE missing the point. You're attacking a pillar of my argument that doesn't exist. I don't care about the game play. I'm talking about characters in the game.
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>>257688530
Of course it is anon, so you better let me put it in your butt.
Y'know, so we won't be gay.
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>>257688371
A Gerudo protagonist would be fine, as long as it was made clear that it was in fact a Gerudo character.

I just think making Link literally the same character but with boobs is wrong.
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>>257688545
>By all means have a female protagonist but don't make it Link.
Who would be more fun to play as? Zelda or Impa?
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>>257688697
Link HAS no character to be changed with his gender.
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>>257688697
You claimed that somehow changing Link's gender would, and I quote, "breath a bit of life into the crusty old series," and then proceeded to claim it would have absolutely no impact on the game.
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>>257688803
Sheik.
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>>257688821
sure, just like Samus had no character before Other M.
Oh wait.
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>>257688697
>I don't care about the game play

Typical response of someone who wants a pointless genderswap in an established game.

Just fuck off already, new IPs are created all the time with female characters if that's your bag. Just leave Zelda alone, please.
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>>257688803
Impa for combat and action.
Zelda for solving puzzles.
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>>257686114
exactly. why make link into a girl when ZELDA is also a character?
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>>257688821

Link is a character. This is a fact. He has no 'personality'. He does, however, have a gender. Would it not be interesting to change it?

Let's throw away the rights and wrongs of this and ask the simple question.
Would it be 'interesting' to change Link's gender?
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>>257688803
Fuck yes, I would kill for a spin off game where you play as Zelda. Make it a stealth game with magic elements similar in style if not tone to Sly Cooper where you play as Sheik and occasionally Zelda herself.
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>>257686617

>Character interactions
>In a Zelda game

No. "Do this thing, for this reason" is about as far as character interaction goes in the series. IT would change nothing
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>>257685434
That reminds me, does anyone have the image of Miyamoto talking about how Yoshi's gender shouldn't matter and all he wants to do is make games?
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>>257685434
Why does Link need to be a girl? To satisfy feminists who need a strong female protagonist?
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>>257688709
Ok but I am only doing this so I can appear straight
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>>257685434
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>>257688993
>Let's throw away the rights and wrongs of this and ask the simple question.
>Would it be 'interesting' to change Link's gender?

I don't see how it would
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Why can't Link be fat?
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>>257687892
Guilty as charged.
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>>257688854

Please learn the difference between gameplay and the game itself.
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>>257688993
No but it would be interesting to put a bullet in your head so you would finally shut the fuck up and stop repeating your little bitch argument.
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>>257688458

> thinking Samus was only revealed as female recently

A never said that. Samus was in her (very masculine looking) suit for most games so her being a woman had no bearing on anything.

Then when she leaves the suit suddenly she's wearing a skin tight outfit and crying. It's a significant contrast with the strong silent type she used to be when she could still ostensibly be seen as male by any passive observer who didn't know any better.
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My only concern- Suppose they did make Link a girl for one game.
Would she be rescuing the Prince or Princess?
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>>257689040
Of course, anon! And we can cuddle after for a few hours, just so we're extra straight.
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>>257689104
That's just it - there is no fucking difference. The game is the game, everything else is superfluous fluff that has no bearing on the game.
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>>257685434
just give it some time anon
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Because make your own game starring a girl

Women are not equal because they can't even do that, instead they want men to do it for them.
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>>257688674
Go back to bed Jesper, Tyrone is waiting for you.
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>>257689092
i chuckled
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>>257685434
because then I would have to get this penis removed off this tattoo
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>>257685434

Link being so feminine keeps me closer to turning gay as fuck

with female link now I don't have to

fucking waifu forever
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>>257689202
C, can I join? I want to make sure I'm straight too.
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>>257686950

>Would be interesting and stray from the normal formulaic characters

You mean those well known and well loved normal formulaic characters that made the game popular and ensure people keep buying the game?

I'm sure changing those will not be a risk at all!
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>>257688993
No. He doesn't interact with anyone meaningfully beyond a blank stare or the rare facial expression. Nothing about his interaction would be changed with his gender.
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>>257688993
>Would it be 'interesting' to change Link's gender?

Not really. It would not change the game or story at all and would serve no purpose.
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>>257689229
>Americucks in charge of knowing timezones
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>>257689092
Why can't Link into bearmode?
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>>257685434
Because the patriarchy wants to oppress female Zelda players, can't be helped really.
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Link has become such an anime pretty boy that it wouldn't change much at all.
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Why can't Link be a fish?
Why can't Link be a muslim?
Why can't Link be a bara tiger?
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>>257689215
Doesn't it just say that was Link's little sister and that the concept was scrapped?
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>>257689318
no fuck off, I'm not straight-marrying two guys at once
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>>257686980

For what reason would one need to be female, other than "I, personally, would think it interesting"
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>>257689358
>not being culturally enriched 24/7
What are you, a racist?
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>>257689202
Good idea, maybe we should talk about our feelings too just in case.

>>257689318
More the merrier I always say.
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>>257689443
O, OK... ;_;
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To that one fool saying Link has no character or personality, you're wrong. Or at least in regards to the 3D games.
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>>257689068
>PoC changed to white characters
I can't think of an example of that happening in the last 10-15 years. I can thing of plenty of the opposite though.
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>>257689210

let's break up what makes most games, okay?

Gameplay

Story and characters

Art

Each of these can be changed without directly affecting the other while still effecting how the game is perceived.
It's silly to say that characters have no bearing on how a game is received and are irrelevant.
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Link can be a transgender moon wizard for all I care. It's not really important at all as long as it's visually identifiable as essentially the same character.
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>>257688945
>Impa for combat and action.
>Zelda for solving puzzles.
So, pic related, basically?
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>>257689556
Avatar the last airbender live action movie, ironically directed by a brown man.
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>>257689414
On a side note, if Link were a Muslim, could we finally have those islamic chants in the fire temple music?
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>>257689556
If Asians count as PoC, Disney's new movie Big Hero 6 has two or three characters that were Asians changed to white. And one to Black.
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>>257689183
I would think a prince to reverse the roles around.
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>>257689414
but Link was a fish that one time
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Why can't Link be an atheist?
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>>257685689
why can't he be a guy? why make pointless changes. you'd only be looking for trouble fixing whats not broken
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>>257689575
Except graphics only matter insofar as you can see what you're doing, and story only exists so you know what to do. The only thing that matters, and thus the only thing you can change to "freshen up" a game, is the gameplay.
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>>257689806
He just wants more fap material, thats it.
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>>257689414

I'd play The Legend of Build Tiger
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Well, he's already wearing a skirt, so...
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>>257689542
In WW and SS, maybe
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>>257685434
Why can't Link be a big guy?
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>>257689542
But the 3D games are steaming piles of shit.
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Why can't I be a girl? ;-;
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>>257689575


But changing story and characters and Art doesn't breathe new life into the series. If it did Zelda wouldn't be a 'crusty old series' in the first place since nearly every game brings new characters, new stories and a new artstyle.
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>>257689801

why cant you disappear forever
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>>257689801
If Link wasn't changed into an atheist, his shield would have a cross like in zelda 1.
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>>257689898
Somebody get this hothead outta here
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>>257689843

I think that's a shallow statement. Were it not for the story. Games like The Walking Dead would have little value at all as they rely entirely on their stories.
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If they made a followup to ALBW which was at least as good as a game as ALBW was, but made Link a girl (with no other changes to her), would it sell as well?
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>>257689801
>Heavy Metal(like Evanescence)
For some reason that bothers me the most.
And I don't even like Metal that much.
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>>257689719
>Big Hero 6 movie
>throw a black guy in it

I know blacks are some of the biggest weebs ever but come the fuck on.
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>>257690037

>I hate when people constantly repost fedora pics, so I'm going to repost this every time someone does it
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>>257689860
Me too but thats not the point. You shouldnt try to change an established character for your own benefit.
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>>257687601
Burden of proof
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>>257689860
Only if you can play as each of the individual Brace Police as well
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>>257690037
>not wanting Link to be euphoric
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>>257690210
Who?
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>>257690152

Just letting you know how positively enlightened you look when you still post the fedora meme in 2014
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>>257689215
>You will never get to play as Link's little sis
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>>257690179
I want that tiger husbando
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>>257687405

>Would make the player view the game differently

Not really, though. It's just a completely blank slate avatar.
They're cool games, with awesome, creative and fun lore, and interesting characters.

Except Link, who is pretty much an automaton, created again and again by fate/gods/whatever to set things straight. It would change nothing but give you a feminin ass to stare at all day.
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>>257690064
You're exactly right - Walking Dead has little if indeed any value at all.
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>>257689981
Because god is dead and there is no justice
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Link is just Zelda in disguise. The games are her legend and most historians/writers have no idea of Link's true gender.
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Why can't Link be a dog?

And none of that "transformation" shit, I mean like a dog through and through.

It would really change how people look at the series and breathe some life into it. The gameplay would be mostly unaffected, and NPC interactions would be interesting. :3
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>>257690315
Too bad, he already has a lion fuckbuddy.
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>>257690114
No. You'd alienate the traditionalists, and it would confuse children
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>>257690289
Build Tiger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRBjU5Osl_E
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>>257690371

I agree.
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>>257689436
I hope they use this idea for Zelda U.
They should make a co-op mode like in AC Unity where each player sees themselves as Link and the other as Linkle.
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>>257689414
>Why can't Link be a fish?
Fuck that, just make a Ruto game. I'd play the hell out of a Zelda game with a zora protagonist.
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>>257690064
and while it was enjoyable, The Walking Dead wasn't different than those animated interactive movies from 20 years ago, it has 0 replay value
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post more femLink art.
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>>257689981
because you don't have money for a sex change?
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>>257687601

Because it's popular and sells as is. Changing it is a risk not worth taking.
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>>257690371
The lack of dexterity would be a deal breaker.
I mean this isn't a great idea but you can find other ways to shit on it besides stupid false equivalencies.
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>>257689981
You can be my girl
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>>257690435
.....Hold on to that innocence anon.
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>>257690297
Okay, bud.
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>>257690371
This game exists.

It's called Okami.
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>>257690332
Why can't Link just be Shantae?
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>>257690371
>>257690441
Okami exists though.
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>>257690535
>The lack of dexterity would be a deal breaker.

What? Why?
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>>257690481

Maybe, but that's besides the point.

My point was that story is the spoon with which you enjoy your gameplay soup.
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>>257689436
got a source on that
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>mfw it's impossible to find good link doujins without sorting through piles of hard shota
I don't want hard shota damnit, I want old link
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>>257690332
>>257689981
Why does feminism and the idea that women are better than men need to exist.
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What if zelda was a girl?
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>>257690638
Why cant Link and Shantae be mecha dog/tiger hybrids and go on fun adventures together?
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>>257690670
Because Link does almost literally everything with his hands, which dogs do not have?
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>>257690546
I hope you're not implying that a show as badass as J-Decker is somehow childish:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-F-YTN6ApM
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>>257690535
>The lack of dexterity would be a deal breaker.
You are displaying the same lack of creativity as Insomniac. Stop that.
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>>257690519

If it doesn't matter it isn't a risk.
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>>257690825
Then give him magic ghost hands that come out of his dog back. Problem solved.
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>>257689436
his daughteru I think
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Why can't Link be a gorilla?
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>>257690845
We were talking about a different build tiger anon. You don't need to know any more than that.
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>>257690537
ok onii-chan~
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>>257690856
It could make an interesting spin-off maybe but there's really no way you can make a game in the same vein as the main series with a dog protagonist without some magical voodoo handwavy horseshit
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why can't link be a fence
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Would you rather fuck femLink or be__ femLink?
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>>257690775
Because men suck, and I'm not gay.
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>>257690974
This. Has to be female, though
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>>257691132
>Because men suck

No, thats just you.
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why can't link be a hyperlink to the world wide web
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>>257691027
no
no
I'm a girl too
now open up your mouth
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>>257691120
Be
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>>257690974
Because gorillas are lame, and gorons are a thing.
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Why can't Link be everything?
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>>257690535
>lack of dexterity

Did you not see that dog? He was running all over the walls.

Zelda is all about innovation, I'm sure they'd be able to make a dog protagonist feel good to play as. And besides, it's magic, they could give him telekinesis or something to get around the dexterity problem.
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>>257690775
If you're saying trans shit is necessarily a side-effect of feminism you're way off base.
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>>257691058
What, so the celestial brush from Okami was "magical voodoo handwavy horseshit"?
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>>257690974

There's no reason why he can't. Nintendo made a dull character and there's no reason why he can't be a gorilla, a car, a shoe or even a fucking potato with forks for legs.
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>>257690506
>Surgery for sex change
>implying you still aren't technically male with fake breasts and vagina
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>wanting Link to be a girl
>ever
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>>257691234
>Zelda is all about innovation
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>>257691280
>liking little boys
>>>/lgbt/
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>>257691250
I guarantee its not a mental mixup, they want to be girls because anime culture has made them think being a girl is awesome. Id bet money on it.
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>>257691025
Not sure why you'd think of something less badass than the fusion of McCrane, Power Joe, and Dumpson when you think of the name Build Tiger, but while we're at it, go ahead and watch all of J-Decker. You'll thank yourself for it later.
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>>257691120
Fuck, obviously
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>New zelda game ships
>Players stick it in their Wii U
>Launch the game
>New game menu
>Select gender option appears

Wat do?
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>>257691208
But being a gorilla would make for much better combat. Wrestling a goron would actually make sense for a gorilla.
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>>257690910
>magic ghost hands
>to hold a sword or some shit
why not have dog Link become the sword?
You are the 700 years old spirit of a demon warrior from the 12th circle of hell, a land called Anzansaruruske where you battled valiantly for your lord every day. But one day your demon lord got bored of you and for shits and giggles tossed you into the human world where you took possession of the nearest body you could find, which turned out to be a dog.
But since you still ahve parts of your demon power left, you can transform your doggie body into a 6 ft tall greatsword that can suck out the souls of the people it slays.

Gameplay is practically unchanged.
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>>257691253
Yeah basically.
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>>257691354

>not liking shota link x imp midna
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>>257691395
You'd end up selecting whatever the default option is because you'd be mashing A to get to the actual game.
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>>257691354
>little boys
I like Link of all ages.
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>>257691436
Little boys are gross.
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>>257691356
Considering we're talking about /v/ at the moment you're probably right
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>>257691386
would you fuck >>257691204 ?
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>>257691395
I would be disappointed, then click "male" and pretend there was never an option.

I don't want BioWare shit in my Japanese games.
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Why can't Link be a sexy Jamaican man?
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>>257691558

midna makes it all better
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>>257691602
It'd be less Bioware, more Monster Hunter
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>>257691605
Fuck off swede.
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>>257691234
Dexterity often implies handedness, i.e. having hands. Not using it in just the sense of general adroitness.
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>>257685689
Why not make link a hulking black nigger?
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Why can't Link be Cthulhu?
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>>257691594
No, because he isn't femlink
He just wishes to be
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>>257691416
Does that necessarily mean that you have to dislike it? I mean, I've always thought that Okami was a far better Zelda style game than any of the 3d Zeldas themselves. It was at least in part because the game was built off that mechanic which was utterly unique and creative at the time.
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why can't link be a kiwi bird?
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>>257687165
the last one actually made me sad :/
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>>257691650
Link's identity is much more important to Zelda than the playable character in Monster Hunter.
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>>257686250
God, if only Link was male in that doujin like he's supposed to be, Id probably have fapped to it over 100 times.
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>>257691772
was there ever a game where you play as a lovecraftian monster/old one/whatever?
seems to me being Cthulhu would be a lot more fun than getting raped by him
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>>257688170

But it does matter, you twit.

It just wouldn't matter for the game. It would add nothing, change nothing.

It would matter for the established image of the Zelda series and would be harmful to sales.
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Why can't Link be a folk singer from the 90s?
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Why can't Link be a zora?
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Why can't Link be a robot?
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>>257691932
No, it isn't. Link is just a sprite you use to play the game.
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why cant Link be a subatomic particle?
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>>257692074

That robot is fucking stupid. It can't stand without wires and needs a cord
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>>257688509

Your friends are not an established brand that rely on regurgitating the same formula to keep their sales going smoothly.
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>>257685434
I wish I could draw
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Why don't they make Link's clothes yellow?
That would be as big a change as making him a grill.
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Why can't Link be a dragon?
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>>257692085
In the first game, maybe. But a lot of the rest of the games have a fair amount of character interaction.
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>>257688645

Not in the slightest, though it does have very realistic portrayal of medieval armor.
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>>257692046
He was at one point
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>>257692247
That looks very lewd in the thumbnail.
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>>257692268
The only purpose of which is to say "Go to this dungeon next. You'll need this item, so go here to get it first."
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>>257685434
No it wouldn't you lazy troll this is obvious bait.
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Why can't Link be a squirrel?
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>>257691378
>Rewatch the first episode
>FUCK THESE FEELS GODDAMN

Why is this so fucking good god fucking damnit.
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Toon Link x Impa when?
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W-what if Zelda kissed FemLink on the cheek
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>>257692389
Only if you're some kind of speedrunner. I can't speak for you but I like talking to NPCs.
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>>257692268
Characters in Zelda interact with the player through Link. The most that Link himself interacts with others are through facial expressions, head gestures, or the occasional skit played for laughs.
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Why can't Link be a talking raccoon?

Raccoons have fingers.
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Why can't I be shadow link?
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>>257689140

>Can't refute it
>Bully and call it a bitch

It keeps being repeated because you have nothing to counter it with.
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>>257692186
I'm sorry their prototype can't climb mountains, anon.
http://youtu.be/SD6Okylclb8
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>>257692601
I think Skyward Sword Link had a lot of character even without much dialogue ("much" meaning counting the minor dialogue trees)
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>>257692585
Has nothing to do with speedrunning. The NPCs are just there purely to point you in the right direction. Link's appearance is purely cosmetic, and it doesn't make a bit of difference whether it's a male or female one.
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>>257692563
>implying the two wouldn't have hot and heavy yuris
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>>257692542
I meant Toon Link x Midna.
I don't know how I fucked that up.
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>>257691905
>no arms
>too small
>not courageous enough

>>257692008
>Link is a folk singer from the 90s thrown through space and time to the land of Hyrule
>he gets into zany and wacky antics as he copes without technology and learns to use magic
>he plays music to defeat enemies instead of a sword
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>>257692662
You're cherry picking reply's. You were already refuted like 20 minutes ago.
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>>257685434
What's the deal with hot girls being drawn with discomfort in their body language and expressions? It's like they're turned on by themselves.
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>>257692334
Well he needs to be one again, because Zoras are the best Zelda species and lend themselves well to fun gameplay mechanics.
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>>257692860
>>he plays music to defeat enemies instead of a sword
He does that anyway!
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>>257689685

>Aang
>Not white

pretty good bait, mate, I almost took it.
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>>257692736
why are these so goddamn funny
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>>257692784
But that's wrong. There are plenty of characters, namely in the more recent games, who just say whatever. They don't point you in any direction.
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>>257692542
>>257692827
No, you got ti right. It's a damn crime there wasn't an Impa in WW.
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>>257692903
have a confident femLink then
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>>257693060
Then they're completely meaningless except to make it more challenging as you search through them to find the useful ones.
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>>257692903
>It's like they're turned on by themselves.
Wouldn't you be if you looked like that?
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>>257693134
Well that sounds like an opinion you have there.
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>>257690706
Have you not studied the moon?
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>>257686250

good fap
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Honestly I would like it, because I like looking at girls more than I like looking at guys, and because most of the Link 63 is hot.
If everybody in everything was a hot anime girl the world would be a better place.
I mean, look at Laharl. The only time he was any good was when he had tits.
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>>257693134
Why are you playing Zelda like monster hunter?
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>>257689880

it's a shirt
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>>257693095
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Why can't Link be gay?
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People are delusional to think that even if Link was a girl in the next Zelda that Nintendo would even have the other characters in the game even acknowledge it. They would still play Link off as the formless, genderless savior that Link is presented as.
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>It would also breath a bit of life into the crusty old series

pls explain how would it? making links shirt red would have a bigger impact. what would link being a girl change? other than pandering to tumblr?
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>>257693271
Sounds like you don't know the difference between opinions and facts.

>>257693336
What are you even talking about? Zelda's about using tools to solve puzzles, combat is barely a factor.
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>>257693435
This is true. Nothing at all would change so I don't really get the big push for it.

I mean I'm not against it either but it's not like it's a big deal.
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>>257693423
have another
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>>257688993
>He has no 'personality'
>Would it be 'interesting' to change Link's gender?

Do you always enjoy shooting yourself in the foot?
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>>257693542
Thats literally just normal Link with a curved fold on his chest.
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If it means more tits, I'm for it.
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>>257693651
Thanks for the input Facebook.
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>>257693435
>>257693540
It would change how certain characters act towards Link, though in my opinion it would be for the worse.

Purely from a gameplay standpoint it would make no difference, but from the story and world building and lore and shit it would make at least a bit of an impact (and again, for the worse in my opinion).
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>>257693542
Thank you, keep going if you can
>>257693595
And a lack of a dick. That's important too.
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>>257693771
>And a lack of a dick. That's important too.

That's not a good thing.
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>>257693595
does this suit your taste better?
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This thread is fucking shit.

Remove Link.
Have Zelda replace Link.
Zelda now holds the Triforce of Courage
Fuck Triforce of Wisdom, because it's literally the most useless piece of shit in the series.
>women
>wise
Zelda must've been a real *wise* one to end up set up as damsel for almost every fucking game.
Game plays the same as before, besides some change in dialogue/character reaction.
Now the game can properly be called fucking Legend of Zelda.
No more shipping shit.
Replace fairy with powerful magician/sage/hermit who got wrecked/killed/cursed by Ganon and now helps you in his familiar/spirit/cursed form. He will also occasionally interrupt you with perverted lines or terrible old geezer jokes which which upsets Zelda. Just because.
For once I'd like the assistant to be the moron with the main as the straight guy.
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>>257693749
>Purely from a gameplay standpoint it would make no difference

So in other words, absolutely zero meaningful difference whatsoever.
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So why can't Donkey Kong be a girl? I think it would be interesting. It would also breath a bit of life into the crusty old series.
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>>257689360
He is an elf.
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>>257693816
Im not into the whole 'girl power' thing to begin with.
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>>257693651
Why not just have more waifu characters? And they can slobber all over you and call you handsome.

Won't get that from a female Link.
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>>257692880

>Says you've been refuted
>Doesn't point out where and how

Sure, bub
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>>257693897
>>257693920
>implying femLink and waifus aren't a perfect match
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>>257693805
Oh yes it is.
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>>257693749
How would it change the way characters act toward Link? To the best of my knowledge Link has never even been acknowledged as MALE in any meaningful sense that would change with being female. At best I would expect a throwaway line about how that Link is the first female reincarnation of the Hero.
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>>257693920

because more waifu characters aren't femlink
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>>257693857
Depends how you like to play games, I guess.

Some people like to get enveloped in the world and lore of games. Not to distract from the meat of the game, of course, but things like talking to NPCs or scanning stuff in Metroid Prime. I love doing that kind of thing, and it ruins the game when that stuff gets shat on.
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Because women aren't just men with breasts, shitlord.

(to be honest I never understood what it meant to write a woman as a man with boobs)
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>>257693990
See

>>257689076
>>257689328
>>257689331
>>257693574
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>>257694000
Yeah? Then do the world a favor and chop yours off.
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>>257685825
Zelda loves the jerk one (Ganon)
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>>257694145
If she isn't boo-hooing at the drop of a hat and pregnant and raped every 5 minutes, she's a man with tits.
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>>257693990
>>257689328
>>257689331
>>257693574
All connected to the post that responded to you in the first place that you were so butthurt over.
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ITT: Some fag who has either played only one or never actually played a TLoZ game thinks a mundane change would make any difference because he hasn't even played the games.

Are you an EA publisher by any chance? Giving "fresh new" ideas about game you've never played.
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>>257693993
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>>257694125
The only reason people defend scanning in Prime is because it distracted from how fucking terrible Prime was by Metroid standards. You can go and get wrapped up in whatever you want, but in the end the only thing that matters is the goddamn gameplay, and if the changes you're proposing don't do anything to help or hinder it, then there is literally no reason to implement them one way or the other.
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>>257693829
sounds like complete shit
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>>257694227
I don't want to. You chop yours off.
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Because its fanbase consists for the most part of boys who use it as a self insert in adventures they will never live, or grown men who grew up doing exactly that.

Turn Link into a girl, and you will lose part of that fanbase, and not attract a significant new fanbase.

Done.
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>>257693749
>It would change how certain characters act towards Link
Bullshit. Characters in LoZ don't give a shit about gender. The hell are you getting this crap from?

Mind you, I'm still of the opinion that a female Link is pointless, because I'd rather play as Zelda.
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>>257694537
>I don't want to.

But dicks are bad. You said so yourself. You'll be better off without it!
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>>257694065
Stuff like how certain characters act towards you. Like say Telma, Princess Ruto, or the Queen of Fairies in WW, as examples.

For some reason it's more endearing and less creepy when female characters hit on male characters as opposed to vice versa. The same can be said of real life to an extent.

Also if Link was female you just know it would be the same old "OMG LE GRIL? NO WAY HAHA! WHOA, GIRL POWER, YOU DEFEATED ME AS A STRONG, EMPOWERED FEMALE CHARACTER! SO FEMININE YET SO POWERFUL!"

Having Link be female would attract MORE attention to the character's gender.
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>>257685434

He could be better a cute trap
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>>257694576
>inb4 hurr zelda has just as many girl players as guys
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>Everyone arguing over whether or not link should be a boy or girl
>Nobody asks link what he thinks he should be

It's time to check your privilege.
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>>257694819
Link doesn't talk though. If he wants to have his say about what he should be, he ought to speak up.
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>>257694739
Pretty sure no one has ever thought this ever.
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>>257694709
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Why can't Link be a demon killer?
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>>257694819
His rights end where my boner begins!
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>>257694974
Are you disagreeing with yourself now?
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>>257694945
He does in SS.
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>>257687481
thanks doc
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Why can't Jim Hawkins be a girl?
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>>257695072
>not answering "Nice hair"
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>>257694984
>Why can't Link be a demon killer?
>not sure of serious, ignorant, or just plain dumb
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>>257695265
Fuck that was such a good movie I wish Tim got more than one more number
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>>257686827
female duke nukem, would love to see that.
can't be worse then forever
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Why can't I be a girl?
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>>257695072

>Not choosing "nice hair" to dis him

What kind of Link are you playing?
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Who cares, you'll never get link as a girl anyways
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>>257695367

True, that. I was surprised at how good a singer he was.
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>>257695291
>>257695417
It's just a pic I took off of Google.

>>257695331
FUCK YOU
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>>257694718
I believe that it would only bring more attention to Link's gender outside the game. Inside the game universe they would end up changing the genders of tons of other characters that would traditionally be female to male to avoid the whole possible lesbian undertones.

Remember that Nintendo keeps itself FAR, FAR away from same sex stuff so it can be more family friendly. Zelda herself would (probably) still be a girl but other possible romantic sub characters would be changed to a guy. The predominately teenage male fan base of the LoZ series would never stand for guys hitting on their self-insert out of homophobia. Nintendo knows this and is part of the reason why girl Link is never going to happen.

It's just safer financially.
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>>257695410
what if 15 years from now you can play a completely immersive virtual reality zelda game as femLink? would that count
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>>257695524
Ah, you should check out more of his work, he used to be a stage actor after all. He did a damn good King Arthur in Spamalot.
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>>257695437
Good. I'd rather play as Zelda or Impa.

>>257695524
>being surprised that Tim Curry can sing
What.
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>>257695604
I would do that.
I would do that and I would spend all of my time feeling my boobs and wearing slutty clothes.
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>this thread didn't devolve into porn

how
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>>257695546
>FUCK YOU
What I mean is that Link fights demons all the damn time, fool.

Hell, he killed the Demon King even.
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Changing his gender would do jack shit to the game. Not even the story, which just acts as a means of giving you a series of tasks.

Even if somehow did affect the story, it would hardly affect the game. Zelda games barely have a real story, and what's there is usually dull or stupid fluff.
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>>257695787
They go through cycles
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>>257694984
>Lonke will never be a reality.
Why even live
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>>257695552
Homophobia aside, male flirting is generally less accepted than female flirting. If a woman says "wow Link, you're so cute!" and Link blushes it off, it's humorous, but imagine the scene with Ruto swimming toward Link with the bedroom eyes saying he's her soul mate, only flip the genders. It seems like the guy is coming on way too strong and would make people uncomfortable, because male flirting is generally seen as a scummy thing in most forms of media. If that made sense.
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>>257689068
POC? What? Isn't white a color itself?
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>>257696016

>So
>much
>Edge

It lopped my monitor in half
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>Girl link confirmed for new Musou game
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>>257688509
But you can't change your gender. You're still a man or a girl, cutting out your genitals doesn't count.
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>>257695405
>can't be worse then forever
if feminist have there way it can, but then again it wouldn't be a nukem game
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>>257696218

Already been posted. In this very thread. Already debunked
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Why can't we just swap Link and Samus if gender doesn't matter? Have Samus in a tunic on a dungeon crawling adventure and have Link in power armor goinf through space dungeons and fighting aliums
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>>257696136
All true.

>Ruto swimming toward Link with the bedroom eyes saying he's her soul mate, only flip the genders

Nightmare fuel.

Other than that a good example of this in the Zelda series itself is how Groose comes on way too strong to Zelda in SS. He initially gets portrayed as a fool with zero chance.
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>>257696429
>Nightmare fuel.

I don't know, she might wind up curiously attractive... for a fishman.
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>>257695769
I feel the same way, anon.
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>>257696494
Considering her father...
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you dont want to be a girl grow up
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>>257696695
what if I am a girl
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>>257688674
Sweden isn't a real country anymore. It isn't hatred, it's pity.
Since you faggots got your shit jacked in 1721, you've been a Russian theme park, existing solely on the sufferance of better men (see: Everyone.)

The ONLY claim to legitimacy that Sweden has is that someone who lived there invented something important and felt so bad about it that he didn't invest the money into anything useful.
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>>257696297

I can read Japanese and while the writing is horribly blurred, I see nothing that suggests a debunking, little sister or anything other than link imagined as a girl.

>???????????????????????????
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Why can't Link be a cute pink hedgehog?
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>>257686379
The rough gameplay of every Zelda game follows the same formula.

The only thing that changes are two overarching things:

Story: The Motivation for each hero tends to be different.
Gimmick: The central Gimmick of the game.

Let's take for instance female link.
How does this affect story? Zelda and Link never have a romantic relationship (exception Skyward Sword at the beginning; supposedly Phantom hourglass and Spirit Tracks).
There is never a justification for a male link only either.
Demise's curse merely curses those with the spirit of the hero and the blood of the godess, never specifically male link and female zelda.
What changes in the story is mostly what changes with every LoZ. How Link integrates into the culture of his respective village.

How could this affect the central Gimmick? Anywhere from not at all to very much. Skyward Sword used its swordplay and motion controls as its central gimmick etc and that was independant of link entirely.
At most what could spring directly from link having a different gender:
>Gameplay shifting between Zelda and Link with different item interaction between the two.
>Gameplay with emotions (See: Super Princess Peach) haha, no.
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>>257696136
>>257696429
I dunno, I'm a dude, and I love Ruto. But she seemed a little rapey at that moment. Little creepy that she more or less told Link "We're engaged now!" without him having a clue what that means.
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>>257696902

Actually me again. I take that back

>????????????
>She was proposed to be like a little sister.
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>>257696679
I'm sorry you missed the joke

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMMgV6iOuuQ
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Why can't Link be Leon?
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>>257696016
remove lipstick
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>>257685589
I wonder if the OP came from NeoFAG, they love talking about this kind of shit.
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Why can't Link be in the title of the game?
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>>257697267
Oh sure, it's probably a little rapey. But there's a double standard where it's more socially acceptable for a female to do something like that.

>>257697372
I'm sorry I missed it too. I never watched Darkstalker's.
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>>257685434
When there's a female character who fully embraces her femininity and sexuality, and it's an important part of her character:
>OMG its like her entire character is just "being a girl" how dare they

When a long-running character, established for decades to be male, ISN'T turned into a female FOR NO FUCKING REASON
>OMG him being female would add some much needed life & character

I guess these people are just never happy with anything
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>>257697372
Well excuuuuuuse me, princess.
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>>257697794
>I guess these people are just never happy with anything
More news at eleven. The problem starts when developers try to listen to those people.
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>>257692903
Because male artists drew them so hot that they'd get turned on by them, and they impose this on the characters themselves, somehow making a character look like it's just as attracted TO ITSELF as the artist is to it.
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>want to breathe some new life into a series
>let's use the same character again but this time with tits!
Or you could, I dunno, make a new character?
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>>257697837
Wtf this would be a hilariously badass gameplay mechanic, why is it not in game
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>>257697886
I see problems on the horizon then because I feel like that will start happening more as time goes on.
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>>257697931
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>257692903
Presumably, Link is confused or embarrassed after waking up with a voluptuous female figure, resulting in an expression of discomfort.
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>>257697886
Good thing that Nintendo and Japan in general doesn't give a single shit about the SJW agenda.
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>>257698172
>Serial killer Link
I like it
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>>257692903

when hot anime babes try desperately to cover their wide birthing hips and large swolen breasts it only draws attention to said wide hips and large breasts.

just like how a girl barely wearing anything is hotter than a girl who is completely naked, your mind fills in the blanks and the curiosity is boner fuel
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>>257698351
>serial killer
I prefer to see it as "Post-Apocalyptic Hyrule" Link
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>implying that literally the only reason that OP, and all his supporters, want Link to be famale ISN'T just so they have a new waifu to fap to
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>>257698809
So?
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>>257696016
I almost wouldn't mind if they dropped the lipstick. It'd certainly do more than Link a grill.
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Why can't Link be spooky skellyman?
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>>257698949
So, fucking kill yourself if you actually want game developers to pander to your fucking hard-on.
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>>257698754
He looks like someone who thinks he's living in post-apocalyptic Hyrule but is actually just a delusional serial killer living in normal Hyrule.
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>>257699050
I'm only seeing advantages here, no disadvantages.
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>>257687923
>That whole example of the young black girls not wanting black dolls because they only thought of white girl dolls as pretty.
That's not just with children and dolls. It's with people and, well, people. Not all races have an equal amount of aesthetically appealing people.
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>>257699046
He was in Twilight Princess but he was an NPC then.
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>>257698104
Because is fucking promise you at least half the Zelda fanbase would complain about how it sucks and that Nintendo should just go back to making a Link to the Past. THEN they'll bitch about how Nintendo never tries anything new.
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What if Sheik was a man
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>>257696229
For clarity, gender =/= sex. Gender is social/cultural and sex is biological.

I hate these tumblr tranny fags as much as the next not mentally ill person but if you're going to argue against one at least be correct.
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Every Zelda game with a female protagnist was shit.
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>>257701140
Gender is sex, except for some mentally confused people who think they are the opposite sex. The distinction is meaningless, especially when no distinct property can be given to those of a particular gender that is true of all members of that gender - somebody will always say "not all men/women do that".
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>>257686250
My dick

>>257691957
Never thought of that actually

Holy shit it would've been the GOAT
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>>257701140
>For clarity, gender =/= sex. Gender is social/cultural and sex is biological.
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>>257701140
>I hate these tumblr tranny fags as much as the next not mentally ill person
>Abides by their definitions
ayy
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>>257701297
Get out of here you gender privileged scum
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>>257701441
You don't have to go thirsty just because your enemy drinks water.
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>>257701297
>>257701441

Except the distinction existed long before these faggots decided that they wanted to cry about having a penis.

Gender was and is used as a sociology term. Shit like how advertisements are designed to appeal to the ideal gender of each sex for maximum appeal.
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>>257697187

It's not about the game, it never was, it's about the franchise.

Changing Link into a girl will not change the game in the slightest. Nor would it really alter the fluff, aside from the fact that, golly gee whiz, a female Link has existed.

The franchise, however, is aimed at a certain audience. Changing Link into a girl will not be well received by its main audience, and will not attract substantial new fans. Whatever other George Lucas style justification Nintendo would like to come up with, it boils down to the fact that the company believes it will lose them money. If they did not, they would do it by now.

Once they believe enough girls play LoZ, there will be a female Link.
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>>257701140
I hate this "gender is a social construct" shit so much. It's a sociologist circlejerk.
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>>257701759
So what, 'gender' is 'sex' in sociological terms? It's still very common and standard to say 'gender' to mean a person's sex, there is absolutely no reason to abide by sociological definitions in an ordinary conversation.
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>>257701916
Forgot to add:

Studies show that gender is at least partially biological; toddlers will gravitate towards different toys depending on whether they're girls or boys.
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>>257690332

>the way her hair just flicks around

it's like a cat's tail and i want to stroke it.
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>>257701828

I know know plenty of girls who love Zelda so im sure theres a market. but they would probably still prefer their bishie link that they can fawn over and write BL fanficiton about.
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>>257702081
But what makes a female or male toy? What are the generic ones? Like cars and dolls?
Do young boys tend to go for toys that give them control of the physical world around them, while young girls go for toys that give them control over other creatures?
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>>257699162

I'd play that.

>Serial Killer Looney Link Hyrule Warrior when?
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>>257686379
if you could togle link's gender in OOT, it means that all the women suddenly become llesbians
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>>257692186

It doesn't need the wires, those are just there to prevent it from getting damaged if it does fall.
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>>257700304
Why would a male Sheik wear nail polish?
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>>257702081
[citation needed]
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>>257702136

>know know plenty of girls who love Zelda so im sure theres a market

1. Anecdote
2. Nintendo probably has more insight in its own market than you
3. True. Creepy, but true. In all honesty, they'd probably want Zelda to be a boy and have the game have gay undertones
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>>257701140
What does a person being a "man" mean? What is a well-defined non-self referential property that all men share and that no women have?
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>>257685434
He is elf. That is girl enough.
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Why cant Link be a Wolf?
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>>257692903
Because the faggots who draw and consume this shit are pathetic and instantly threatened by the slightest hint of confidence from a female. They need their girls to be docile and submissive, and are responsible for fuck-all femdom hentai. Fuck those faggots.
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>>257702136

>im sure theres a market.

Of course there's a market. You could pull lint from your belly button, and I'd wager money that you could, in fact, find a market for that, too.

It's the question of whether or not it's a worthwhile market, and more importantly, a market worth the risk of alienating your existing market.
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>>257702010
Then just say sex instead of gender and you'll have no problems.

>>257701916
>>257702081
No shit, son. Everyone's well aware of possible hormonal and genetic effects on infant decision making. The gender part comes in the fact that the toys are designed to appeal to the boys or girls based on this.

>>257702792
Means being a masculine figure. Someone who works hard labor will be considered "more of a man" than a NEET on his computer. The term 'tomboy' exists because it describes a female who has less feminine personality traits and more masculine.
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>>257703114
Being "masculine" is self-referential. Also are you saying being a tomboy makes you a man? I don't think anybody agrees with that.
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>>257702435
In the link video below. It wasn't toys though, 1 day old babies were shown a mechanical object and a face, and the researchers recorded how long the babies looked at each object. There's more experiments earlier in the video, which were done on older children using only toys, IIRC (I watched that video a few months ago)

>>257702720
http://vimeo.com/19707588 (roughly 22 minutes in)
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>>257703114
Yeah that's my point: we design those toys to appeal to either boys or girls, we don't indoctrinate toddlers into liking the ones assigned to their gender.
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>>257703253
>Also are you saying being a tomboy makes you a man?

Try reading again.

If I say 60 is higher than 50 would you think I was saying 60 = 70?

>>257703432
So if the appeal is such a binary term as 'sex' then where do cases were the male chose the girly toys or the female chose the manly toys come from in the study?
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>>257685434
> It would also breath a bit of life into the crusty old series.

>"HEY LOOK, IT'S THE SAME GAMEPLAY IN EVERY OTHER ZELDA.....BUT WITH A FEMALE LINK!"

>"HEY LOOK, IT'S THE SAME PUZZLES....BUT WITH A FEMALE LINK!"

>"HEY LOOK, IT'S THE SAME STORY AND CHARACTERS....BUT WITH A FEMALE LINK!"

>10/10 -IGN "Breath of fresh air into this dead series, but why can't we play as transgendered?
> No - Kotaku "Nintendo is sexist against genders? Read more after the break"

>Tumblr faggots and SJW's
>"Why does she grunt in pain when she's hit!? Fucking sexist pigs, real women don't make noises when hurt."

Yeah how about no.
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>>257685434
Link can't be a girl or else you won't be posting this on this very day! And I wouldn't be here sitting down, scrolling through /v/ and commenting on this thread. That's why Link can't be a girl.
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>>257702136

>Girls who love Zelda


Loving the setting isn't enough. You need people who buy the games. And aside from mobile phones and other shovelware, people who buy games are still abundantly male.

Males who prefer their Link to be a male they can easily self insert into.
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>>257685434
WHAT THE FUCK
i thought link was already a girl
you mean whole this time i was playing with link as a boy wtf
are you serious ?
my god i am gonna cry now
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>>257688324
This basically.

Link has no dialogue, and each incarnation of Link is a different one. If one was suddenly a girl, literally nobody would treat her differently than they would male link.

If Zelda didn't react to the Hero of Hyrule being a fucking wolf, she's not going to react to something as simple as Link being a girl.
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>>257703796

>MEET DORIAN, THE FIRST FULLY GAY CHARACTER IN VIDEO GAME HISTORY
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>>257704010
why god why
i fantasied about her i even made her my waifu
what that makes me now
i had feelings about her
fuck this world
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>>257704491
It's ok, you're a part of the trap master race now.
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>>257704653
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Serious question: why do people say that Link's gender doesn't matter and yet half-jokingly call OoT, TP and both Oracle games Link's harem? It does matter when it comes to interraction with female NPCs. I don't believe that many people would have been comfortable to play as female Link if they gave her several possible hansome male love interests. And nope, there won't be any yuri option.
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>>257685434

Because Link and Zelda make offspring which is a major point in the timeline.

dickhead

>why cant superman be a woman
>why cant thor be black
>why cant

holy shit america stop with this ism shit
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>>257689801
>i'm a smart guy
>doesn't know how an/a works
>fucks up it's
>randomly capitalizes words
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>>257705135
It's sad because its true.
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>>257706538
>why cant superman be a woman
>why cant thor be black
>why cant

Man i feel you. I don't know what everyone's obsession is with making sure everything is either some sort of brown or has tits now, but holy shit just give it a rest.
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>>257685434
As long as the reason for such a change is because the creators wanted it rather than to pander to SJW faggots I'm fine with it.
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>>257706538
>>257707086
Because white dudes are fucking boring, man. Like what is wrong with just changing them, it'd offer new values, new perspectives, new social theming beyond "hunk white guy falls in love with lithe white chick let's save the world". Like say what you will about Hancock, but at least it was different. I'd take innovation over same old shit any day
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>>257707247
Hancock? The movie with will smith?
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I always assumed that being a boy was a requirement for every Link incarnation.
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>>257685434
Because muh boypussy
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>>257707880
or maybe the society didn't want to teach young girls to be heroes.
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>>257707710
Yes. It wasn't that good and it suffered from a lot of tropey typical crock, but it managed to do that and at the same time be somewhat unique by making the hero a poor black dude. It added a new facet that we don't get very often, if at all. Imagine that but also good writing and I think all these ethnicity/gender whatever changes can be a very good thing for the quality of entertainment.
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>>257701828
>Once they believe enough girls play LoZ, there will be a female Link.
Fucking you wish, almost if not every girl loves male Link. It's their husbando and no one but male lesbians want a female Link, holy shit.
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>>257708357
How? How did hancock being black add anything new to the table? The reason the movie was interesting was because the main hero was rude, blunt needlessly destructive, and really gave no fucks about anything as he went about his day. He was a drunk, an asshole, but had a good guy under all of that. How is any of that something exclusive to being black?

You don't honestly think there hasn't been a black superhero before do you? Because every possible thing a black hero can bring to the table has already been done to death, as well.
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>>257708789
>male lesbians
Faggots. The word you're looking for is Faggots, anon.
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>>257702010
While you are right that the general population use gender instead of sex it still doesn't make it right. That way of thinking made literal lose its literal meaning, you know?
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>>257708802
Yet there was no issue with him being black, right? It didn't change anything? What's the problem with having a black/brown/Asian/etc or female super hero then? If personality is what matters? And since we've had so many white males, there shouldn't be any concern about having non white males
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>>257708929
No, faggots actually like dick, these retards wish they were girls just to be lesbians. Go browse an /a/ yuri thread. No actually, just look for a faggot posting precure pics, he always names them Aoi [something] He used to be a shitposting tripfag male lesbian before he got TOLD to hell and dropped the trip.
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>>257709254
Forgot to mention he usually browses DaS threads.
Also remember to report him, he's supposed to be permabanned since 2010.
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>>257707247
So your problem are not the characters but badly written characters and want a character with different ethnicity just to spice them up? Then what? Their only characteristic would be being black or asian or a woman.


Speaking of which, Django: Unchained videogame when?
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>>257696179
White is every colour. Black is absence of colour.
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>>257709168
Because instead of just writing a new hero, everyone insists on just taking popular heros and setting it up so that they get replaced by a black guy/girl.

If the reverse were to happen folk would throw fits over 'whitewashing'. If there was a long-established black superhero who got railroaded into being replaced by a white guy, or a well-known female hero being replaced by a man. It's not that race doesn't matter, it's just that somehow white and male have become inherently wrong.
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>>257699046
Pressed the thumbnail before reading your post. Almost died from the shock. Fuck you, man.
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>>257688395

But Link is different in every game. There are maybe two games that use the same Link. There is no established Link, since each one is completely different. The only thing that is the same is they are all male, but it doesn't mean they have to be.
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>>257703698
Don't try to argue man, I had a very similar discussion 6 days ago and they just called me a Tumblr fag. Seriously /v/ I know you got a lot of beef with feminist but not all social studies are wrong...
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>>257709723
AFAIK, Zelda 1 and 2 have the same Link as well as OoT and MM.
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>>257709581
Remember what happened to latino female ghostrider?
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>>257709581
I don't think they've become inherently wrong. What has become wrong currently is being against the changing from white to black or male to female in media. I honestly don't see the problem if there are more black people or whatever or females in games, movies etc. People shouldn't be angry that there are more white people than anyone else in media, they should be angry if people oppose balancing out that percentage.

>>257709521
>just to spice them up
No, but it implies a lot of different social implications. A huge portion of a character including their personality and actions are based on how they grew up, how they were perceived, their social standing, which includes race and gender. In the simplest terms, yes I think it does make things more interesting. I'm not saying not to have any more white folk, but just have more non-white folk in mainstream media.
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>>257707247
>Sexual and racial diversity is inherently valuable in fiction
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>>257710081
But if it is a super hero with a sense of justice then it doesn't matter. The character is already established so why change it? Being black, white, yellow, brown, a man , a woman or a fucking transgendered person with brain problems won't change any of that.
Also there's already a Goron link in case you didn't know.
If you want a black, or woman or whatever super hero just wait for a new IP
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>>257710081
>No, but it implies a lot of different social implications.

Implications are fine like any fan headcannon but they will be just a badly written as they are now.

Hulking white dude will just be hulking black/asian dude. They won't suddenly make them better characters.
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>>257685434
Because it would double the development time, donĀ“t you ever listen to EA bro?
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>>257710423
But Nintendo's new IPs always suck balls.
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>>257710824
No they don't. They will make a black character eventually.
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>>257710081
Are you a fan of modern Bioware by any chance? Because you seem to have their mental illness where you think just because a character is a minority then it's a well done character.

Look at their 'fully gay' complete flaming homo stereotype. You want that except for black people? You want the first 'fully black' character riding up in a low rider with his body covered in gold and craving fried chicken?

Bad writers are bad writers.
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>>257710951
I'm carving fried chicken and I'm white ;_;
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>>257710423
>wait for a new IP
We're talking about Zelda now? Okay. I wouldn't mind a female Link to be honest. It can be easily incorporated into canon and it'd be waifu material. A different ethnicity Link might be weird though and I think it'd be too drastic of a change. A new IP would be suitable, or even a new protagonist in a Zelda spin-off.

>>257710472
What you're saying is that the ethnicity really doesn't matter to you. The writing does, right? But the ethnicity matters to someone who is black, or Asian because they're not as often represented. If they are smart enough, they also want good writing. So there's really no issue with changing ethnicity to you, right?

>>257710951
I don't believe that at all. I believe it gives a lot more potential that's different. We've had our massive share of shit-written and amazingly-written white folk. Why not move to other social bases to allow for even more good writing? And shit writing will come with it as well, but that's inevitable
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>>257710081
So you are saying a character who suddenly becomes melanin enriched immediately becomes a better character?
Are you swedish by any chance?
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>>257711168
You didn't address the part about liking a character just because it's a minority.
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>>257711168
Hi Burch, I know you think adding in token characters for the sake of mandatory diversity is good, but how about you look at the quality of these characters for five seconds.
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>>257711168
>But the ethnicity matters to someone who is black, or Asian because they're not as often represented
I'm black and that shit annoys the fuck out of me.
What I get from those types of things is that black is like a chocolate coating: just dip something in it and it's better.

No, fuck you. I'd rather have a dozen white characters than a black character that's just there for diversity.
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>>257710906
But black people suck balls.
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>link is an establish character

What the fuck, no he's not. This is like saying 'deepest lore' but not being joking.
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>>257711168
When a writer is attempting to create a unique character they need detail. So when these writers dip the character in black paint they get this strange idea that that's enough diversity to make it unique and then they just slap on some more generalization because they don't know shit.

When they hear gamers crying about the lack of ethnic characters they think that they just literally need to slap some token character in and that's a top notch job because all the masses want is an ethnic.

You should be crying out for well written characters, any mention of ethnicity will only blind them.
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>>257711881
This. This exactly.
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>>257711168
>It can be easily incorporated into canon
No it can't
>A different ethnicity Link might be weird though
There's already a Goron link in Phantom Hourglass IIRC also in the zeldaverse there's only hylians and Gerudo as "humans" and Gerudo can only be women. So It's impossible for Link to be any other ethnicity but Hylian.
>or even a new protagonist in a Zelda spin-off.
That's not a bad idea but you are still full of shit.
> But the ethnicity matters to someone who is black, or Asian because they're not as often represented.
I'm Mexican and I don't give a single shit about ethnicity or being represented.
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>>257711289
>>257711350
>>257711535
>>257711881
I 100% agree. I didn't mean to imply anything else. Diversity for diversity's sake is very likely not a good idea. The writing matters and I'm sure I said that. However what I'm saying is I'd prefer a badly written non-white character than a badly written white one. I'd rather have both well-written non-whites and whites, but since there are far less well-written non-white characters, I would be more agreeable with people just writing MORE non-white characters, regardless of whether they're shit or not. It'll inspire people to do it more often and make it more of a norm. It'll balance out that representation. But writing does matter most overall
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>>257711736
I really liked Django though. He was badass.
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