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ITT: Beliefs you have about gaming that took you a long time to realize

>No game is worth paying $60 for.
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Except I probably would still pay $60 for an Orochi Warriors Empires
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>>257576292
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i paid full price for deus ex HR and i dont regret it in the slightest
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>>257576573
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Getting people to talk shit about a game can actually effect how it is viewed. Slowly but surely
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>>257576817
I guess that's satirical.
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>>257576292
this
the last game i payed for $60 was dark souls ii
holy shit $60 is a lot of money
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>>257576573
isn't there a site that adjusts that for inflation?
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>buy Stick of Truth at full price day of release
>beat it in 5 hours
>never play it again

Won't make that mistake twice
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>>257576817
They should have tumblr nose for a better effect
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>for every dollar I spend on a game, I should get at least 1 hour of fun interesting gameplay.

RPGs were my go to for this money to fun ratio. now with less free time it has moved to roguelikes.

I love knowing I don't contribute meaningfully to gaming, its the only reason I'm okay with not being catered to.
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>>257576292

I think the last game I paid full price for was Ratchet & Clank: A Crack in Time. It was a good game but looking back jeez the 80 dollarydoo's I paid for it are a lot.

Even those EB games sales where shit was $20 or so is expensive now that I compare it with Steam.
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>>257576292
You will always end up disapointed by ever AAA+ title.

Coding is hard and being an idea guy will get you no were ;____;

>>257576573
advice i've followed to this day
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Ultima Online was the last good MMO, all others are just glorified slot machines.
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Falcom games on steam have easily been my best value per buck, seeing how they start cheap and are frequently on sale
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No game is worth money.
Nothing, all you are getting is a fucking disk, that's it.

Why not invest the money on something REAL
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>preorder Thief 4
>oh god this is awful
Never preorder
>will probably preorder Evil Within
>Mikami won't let me down
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>>257578171
>preorder Thief 4
what could have possibly motivated you to do something so stupid?
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>>257576292
> never buy a console on release, always wait at least three years
> never believe rewievers
> never fall for hype
> never pay more than 20 raccoon hides for a videogame
> every single MMO that includes a cash shop IS p2w
> skipping singleplayer grinding is completely justifiable if the game is not interesting from PvE point
> never preorder games
> never buy AAA outside of major sales
> always pirate a game without demo version, you don't deserve to lose your money
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>>257576292
fucking this
Most of the games that have entertained me the most for the longest have been under $50
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>>257578059
>digital downsyndromes don't get to feel a video game in their hands
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>>257576817

Hah
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>>257576292
What you said, and that if it's too good to be true, it probably is. I know that's a common belief in life but for some reason I thought video games were exempt. Naive I suppose.
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I pirated MGR on release, but holy fuck if I would have paid full price for that game I would have been mad as fuck
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You are more likely to play and then enjoy a game if you pay for it
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>>257576292
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>never rebuy a game you already beat
>never preorder anything
>never buy any dlc, at all
>never buy a game you can pirate
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>>257576292
Don't buy any single player game for more than $20, if it isn't worth playing in 5 years it was never worth playing.

There are enough free games and games that you can emulate where buying more than 1-2 games a year is a waste of money, and buying consoles is a massive waste of money.

Never pay any attention to prerelease media or reviews of any kind, all of them are marketing lies.
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>>257578745
Im just lazy to go to a shop just for a video game, and i manage to break every cd I ever owned
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>>257579106
I pre-ordered Dragon's Crown and was very happy with the game and the free artbook that came with it
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>>257579123
>buying consoles is a massive waste of money

I disagree.
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>>257576292
That Nintendo is great.

I'm embarrassed at how many years I spent being the stereotypical "nintendo is for babies" faggot. When I see people talking about the Wii U not being a "real console" I get secondhand embarrassment and just hope they're dumb edgy teens like I was.

And now Nintendo are stooping to preorder bonuses, just because of faggot hardkore REAL GAMERS. I hate them, and I hate myself. This is the nightmare we made for ourselves.
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>>257576292
Never ever pre-order a game, no matter how hype it looks. Master of Orion 3 delivered the first blow, and Spore drove that lesson home. I never buy a game now unless I've either played it, or have watched videos of real people playing it.
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>>257576573
>>257579068
Pretty much this. It baffles me how people are willing to pay >100$ consoles so they can play 60$ games.
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>people on /v/ actually bought a ps4 or xbone already

What the fuck are you even playing right now? I want you to fucking tell me right now
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Always pirate singleplayer games to see if it's good or not. If you need someone else to review the game for you, you're a shitter.
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>>257579776
The Waiting Game. Probably one of the longest games anyone will ever play.
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Cpma was/is the height of fps depth and skill and also has the best netcode and input I've ever experienced. It's ruined gaming for me. Once you live like a king everything else feels like peasantry.

I enjoy other games, it just pains me to know that the standard was set and held by a mod on a game from 1999
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> never buy a console at release
> never buy "super slim" console versions
> never ever buy DLCs
> $20 is the most you should pay for any game including DLCs and everything else
> never preorder games
> never buy AAA games without pirating even if they give out a free demo or beta version
> never buy early access beta games - remember when beta was a privilege and you've been paid/paid nothing to get in?
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>>257579537
I want to follow this advice, but I'm hyped for Smash 4 on the 3DS. Is it worth just waiting it out to see how the reception is first?
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>people arbitrarily saying 20 dollars is the most a game can be worth
fuck you people, get some money and stop being poorfags
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More like never pay full price for a "movie" game that's only gonna last at best five hours.
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Stop playing b2p or p2p games. That means single player games too. it's an experience paling in comparison to the ones offered by the hundreds of f2p mmos out there.
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>>257576292
When it comes to physical copies of niche games, just buy the damn thing. I've fucked myself in the past by hesitating.

One example is not buying the full set of .hack when all 7 games were staring me in the face because I wanted to play them in order. It took me about 3 years to find Mutation, Outbreak, Quarantine, and the three G.U. games.
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>>257580528
Rich people are rich because they don't make lots of retarded impulse purchases on bad products.
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Always look in every nook and cranny. There just may be an easter egg hiding.

>>257577468
Unrelated, but
>Black Tharja
Tasty.
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>>257576292
but I just paid $150 for Archeage???
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>>257579537
Spyro Enter the Dragonfly managed to convince me that pre-ordering was for tards in one agonizing blow.
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>>257580935
>Always look in every nook and cranny. There just may be an easter egg hiding.
thanks kotaku

what about
>always go backwards from the start - sneaky devs like to hide surprises there!
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>most new console games in my country cost 80USD
I've never paid more than 50USD for a video game.
I usually buy games when they're ~30$, I've only made an exception for GTAIV on PC and GTAV on 360
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>>257580528
If you understood the value of money, you'd understand that 60 dollars is expensive no matter what your income is.
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>>257579420
>preorder bonuses
Namco bandai are publishing hyrule warriors not nintendo.
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>>257579776
Nothing. I knew I wanted one eventually, and so I took the opportunity when I had the chance to get a PS4 for $300, but holy shit is there nothing to do on it. Every single one of the PS+ games besides Strider was garbage, and despite me trying a bunch of AAA games on it, the only ones I enjoyed enough to keep were Metal Gear which I played for about 20 hours and inFamous, in which I got the platinum trophy, which requires two playthroughs and all collectibles, within 15 hours.

And the two games I would have gotten and loved to play with friends this holiday were Battlefield Hardline and Evolve, both of which got pushed to next year, so it will be collecting dust for another six months.

I know games will come out for it and I likely wouldn't have gotten a much better deal on it, so I didn't waste my money, but in the meantime the thing sucks balls.
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>>257577116
Same issue here, only it was GTA V, and stung worse because I got Okami at the same time for a third of the price and got double the playtime.
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>>257576292
>>257576573
yup, these are golden rules.
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>>257581217
Stop living in australia
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>>257580992
Why?
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>>257576292
The PS3 taught me that consoles are not worth buying on release and that you should wait at least 3 years.
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>>257576292

My naive brain used to believe small developers getting bought by huge publishers was a good thing because now they'll have a bottomless budget and therefore their games will be that much more awesome. Now I know there are so many other implications to selling out.
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Are there really no games that you guys like enough to pay full price for at launch? I don't care if they're $100, there is no way I'm missing the opportunity to play a Metal Gear or Smash Bros. or Metroid game as soon as I possibly can.
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>>257581190
>thanks kotaku

Alright, I'll admit to being slow, but it IS good advice.

Another bit: Only donate to a server if it's your absolute favorite, and even then, only if you have money to burn.
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> mfw console games cost nearly $90 in my country
I'm not even in australia, nigger. At least PC vidya is reasonably priced at around $30.
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>>257581245
but 40 is also expensive? and 35? and 22?

20 is just an unrealistically low number to get any game the year it came out. especially nintendo games. if the game drops that low within months, it must have been shit and you shouldn't want to play it.

I can see "don't pay full price" as a good rule, because there are always sales going on and shit. but there's no reason to be a skinflint and wait until they drop past your arbitrary threshold.
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>>257579420
last gen they were the saving grace, no little dlc, despite motion controls no gimmicks to make you buy more stuff
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>>257579420
That wasn't even their decision. They might have been able to veto it, but all they did was license their characters out to Namco.
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>>257581847
It's similar in my country. PC versions are half the price of the console version, it's crazy. The only exception are Blizzard games, which cost about as much as console games.
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>>257582004
I agree. Having an arbitrary line to wait for a game you want seems stupid.
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>>257579325
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>Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game
>never buy a console
>don't hype anything
>don't preorder anything
>don't support early access
>piracy protects you from paying money for bad games
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>no DLC is worth the money
but I at least always knew season passes were retarded
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when I dropped $50 or whatever on medieval 2 all those years ago and I check my steam and it says "1200 hours played" I go damn, that was a good deal

Or Xcom, Civ, all these games where I've hit 100 hours + and payed full price, I really don't care

Fuck I even played full price for battlefield 3 when it was out, but I played the shit out of it. Same with bad company 2 (still my favourite shooter)

But yeah, modern "cinematic" games should go fuck themselves
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PC is the superior system for playing games.

Consoles are the superior system for playing games with friends.

If it's a shooter with a gimmick, it's a bad shooter.

If it's gimmicks with a shooter, it's Half Life.
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>>257579106
>>never rebuy a game you already beat
Why would anyone do that?

>Friend on Steam lends a physical copy to a friend of hers
>He loses it
>She buys it again
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Don't buy games at launch.
>exception: games like pokemon or games from trusted developers.
Don't buy systems at launch.
DO NOT BUY MMO'S ON LAUNCH.
IF YOU EVER THINK ABOUT RE-SUBBING, DON'T.
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>>257576292
Good thing I only ever pay $59.99.
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>>257577468
>Black Tharja
I never knew I wanted this
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>>257576292
>/v/ is always right, took me two years to realize that
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>>257578510
Just imagine how the industry would look if everyone were at least this smart
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>>257580703
Forgive my newfaggotry, but what the hell is b2p?
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If you're not in a hurry to play the game, wait for the GOTY edition.
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>>257582747
>tfw I bought wind waker HD
such a good game I'll pay for it twice, I don't give a fuck
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>>257580445
What does anyone possibly stand to gain from pre-ordering a game? Seriously, there is no legit benefit for the buyer.

>pre-order-only swag
Worthless and useless unless you're a turbo-autist

>it guarantees you'll have a copy on release day
Nigger when was the last time a store ran out of copies of a game, even on release day?

>I get to play it FIRST!
Doesn't make the game good. You won't know that for sure until you play it. For all you know it's a complete waste of money.

Would you pre-order a car? A movie you haven't seen? Idiots, I swear.
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>>257576292
But console games have resale value though.
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>>257582692
>If its a shooter with a gimmick, its a bad shooter

Don't be talking shit about Vanquish.
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>>257582863
Buy 2 play, pay for the game but nothing else, no subscription. Like GW2.
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>>257576292
Ninja Gaiden Black.
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>>257582807
/v/ is always wrong.
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>>257583068
That's what I figured. Yeah, fuck that.
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>>257582747
I bought quite a few games again when I switched from 360 to PS3.
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>>257577986
>mfw your right.
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>>257583006
I pre-ordered the Rome 2: Total War CE, I got a broken game that I couldn't play a few days before everyone else, and because it's hooked on steam, I had to wait until the official time of release before I could play it.

Never again.
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>MMOs are not worth playing
It took me a while to realize this but I feel it's definitely the truth. Every hour you spend playing an MMO could be an hour spent playing an actual game, or better yet, being productive.
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>>257583009
The only reason to sell a game is if it sucks and you don't want to play it again.
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>>257583006
I'd buy tickets in advance because I hate waiting in lines. but that's for the cinema.

I'd preorder a figma, because those fuckers DO sell out.

I'd preorder a game from my local non-gamestop game store, because they get games in stock based on preorders. I didn't do it for Pikmin 3 and they just didn't get it because literally no one pre-ordered it.


In general you're right, of course.
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>>257583230
Can't you just, like, trade your 360 version for the PS3 version?
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>>257578950
I paid full price for it and thought it was money well spent.
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>>257583068
wait that sounds like every proper video game ever

what makes that bad, usually you have to buy thing before you can play thing
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>Never buy a game at full price
>Never pay to beta test
>Never buy a Sony console until the 5 years after release
>Graphics don't mean shit as long as you can tell what everything is
>Demos are not always an accurate representation of a full game
>Gaming Journalism is a sham
>Sega was the best of the industry and it's a good thing they died before things got too bad
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>>257576292
>>No game is worth paying $60 for.
>play game for 1000 hours
>"nah, not worth 60 buckaroos"
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>>257583009
Yeah, people say "never buy a game at $60 because you might not but 300 hours into it", but if you get 20 or even 10 hours out of it right at launch and you feel satisfied and done with it, you can just sell it to Gamestop for usually $40 depending on how big the game is.

$20 is not bad at all for getting to playthrough a game in a month.
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That I won't ever be able to do anything in a video game.
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>>257579054
Play yes, enjoy no.
I'm less likely to enjoy a bad game if I paid for it, even though many people wii try to justify bad games as good via post-purchase rationalization

Really you are more likely to play and enjoy games if you don't have as many. It's just that pirates usually have more games to play than buyfags
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>>257578510
> never preorder games
I never understood this mentality. If there's a game you want that's going to have a large launch, you only gain things from preordering. It doesn't cost extra, you're guaranteed a copy, and you might get a little preorder bonus.

Why shouldn't I preorder?
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>>257583379
I bought Goat Simulator on launch day. I unlocked all the achievements and never touched it again. That game runs worse than fucking GTA IV.
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>>257576292
Try living in Canada where games just got shot up $70.
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When people on /v/ say your favorite game is shit most of the time they're just trying to piss you off.
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>>257582692
*Consoles are the superior system for playing games with friends in person
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>>257583604
>Graphics don't mean shit as long as you can tell what everything is
you're right in general, but especially right about this one

I will never understand graphix dickwaving

if games never advanced past gen 6 technology I don't think I'd mind
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>>257583478
That's what I did, but I think I had to pay some out of pocket. Not much though, because it was a pretty good deal. I traded my old 360 with games and accessories for a 500 GB PS3, got all the PS3 versions of all my 360 games, and three PS3 exclusives and paid $40 out of pocket.
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>>257583006
Oh my god, Dragon's Crown grills are so fucking hot.
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>Never pay more than 20 dollars on a game
Are Nintendo games or limited physical editions of games an exception?
Nintendo games seem to always keep their price high
Rare games with low amount of copies turn really expensive too
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>>257582004
It really depends on what you consider to be the "right price" for something. I don't think there's anything wrong with having a threshold for price, if a person is willing to wait until something drops into a reasonable price range, then more power to them. Video games are not food, they are not a necessity, and you are definitely capable of waiting to play one as long as you have minimal self-control. It's wise to think about how much you're spending for something that you may only get 5 hours of entertainment out of or that you may not even end up liking.
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>>257583692
when was the last time you payed for a bad game?

I don't pay for anything unless I know I'm going to at least "like" it. and I'm saying that because I think about it like that, I don't spend my money unless I'm sure I really WANT it, I don't end up playing anything I don't like.

I can't remember the last time I had buyer's remorse, because I force myself to be careful.

But when I was a high school and would just pirate the fuck out of everything, I played a ton of shit and most of it was just that - shit. I'm like an opposite of tired gamer, now that I've reduced my intake to things that are actually relevant to my interests, I enjoy every game I play.
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>>257583928
Seriously.

Gen 6 games still look amazing today too. They just need to render at a higher res.
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>>257583726
Well, things can differ.
Digital preorders are fucking retarded, and while stuff like preorder swag (IE a poster or something) is neat, too many games are giving out ingame incentives.
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>>257583356
Holy shit, how long are those kid's knees?
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>>257584201
Yeah that's the problem with setting price limits on certain games. You wait for a price drop, and you end up waiting so long that all the copies are gone and they're being sold for an even higher price. Look at Xenoblade Chronicles, or Metroid Prime Trilogy, or the Metal Gear Solid Legacy.
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>>257583726
> 80% of budget is marketing department
> game is downgraded throughout the development process
> game is suddenly cancelled
> preorder bonuses are not worth it
> game will never go on major sale before the release and you are basically forced to pay $60
> DLCs are not included in preorder, better wait for GOTY/complete edition with everything in it or season pass to go on sale
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>>257583025
If a feature is well-implemented into gameplay, then it's not a gimmick.
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>>257584693
Well of course preordering months in advance is retarded. I was talking like a few weeks before the game is out.
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>>257576292

You don't need to buy the yearly reskin of your favourite sports game.
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>>257584863
Not unless they have the demo. If the game got a demo and demo is good then you may consider preordering it.
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>>257577986

Agree'd.
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this is why i pirate and if i really liked the game i then buy it on sale
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>>257583819
The only games that are shit are broken unplayable messes like Big Rigs Racing.

Everything else is just /v/ being asswipes.
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>>257585260
I know it's /v/tarded
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>>257585238

i do the same thing minus the last part.
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Everything I know about being good at games is based on being better than noobs
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>>257577986

So true it hurts
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>all of these jews in this thread
What the fuck? What games are you even playing if you won't spend more than 20 dollars on a game?
60 dollars is not a lot of money. Someone working a minimum wage job could get more than 60 dollars in a day of work.

Right, I forget you all sit around on your computers doing absolutely nothing but shitpost. Why even spend 20 dollars on a game? You're not gonna play it anyway.
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>>257585739
buy it or buy it on sale?
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>>257582747

I've purchased Oblivion FIVE times.

I don't even like Oblivion I like Morrowind what the fuck is wrong with me.
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>>257585137
Sometimes the demo is the best part of the game. Or half the game's content.
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>>257586149
>FIVE times
How did you manage that? On what platforms?
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>>257577468
>Roguelikes
>Less time consuming

Maybe it's just me, but I played ADOM so much It creeped into my dreams.

Frigging dreams where you are a brown @
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>>257586003
>bad goy!, you need to pay more!
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Your backlog is less appealing when you're not playing it.

Once you actually start you realise how good that classic game you've been putting off is.
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>>257582813
>never buy a console on release
So, dead? Someone's gotta pleb up and buy that console at first.
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>>257586003
>complains about shitposting
>shitposts himself

The irony of this post is palpable
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>$60 is actually pretty cheap for games, and gaming is one of the cheapest hobbies
Seriously anyone with a job should be able to afford a new game every once in a while.
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>>257576292
Dude, $60 is nothing. It's 40$ 20 years ago, when they were still $60.00. It's 4 meals out.

Get a job.
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>>257586385

>Once for 360
>Sold 360 and game because I realized the platform was shit
>Once for PC
>gave that one to a friend
>Collector's Edition for PC because m-muh coin
>Steam version for PC because m-muh no disc
>PS3 version because I sold my gaming PC

I just recently gave my PS3 and games to a friend, and I have no idea WHAT happened to that collector's edition. I just buy all of my games on Steam these days to prevent shit like this from happening.

I've bought Morrowind more times than Oblivion, and somehow despite everything I bought Skyrim TWICE.
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>>257581378
my only reason for buying a ps4 got thrown out when the xbone also got KH3. Now I don't know. I have the U because I always get Nintendo first. Can't Kingdom Hearts come out on pc????
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>>257586702
This. A good dinner date and drinks costs more.
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>wait for Kirby's Return to Dreamland to drop in price a little bit
>suddenly it's $75+
This waiting thing doesn't always work out you know.
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>>257586702
I guess it depends on how often you buy games and how much you are willing to spend on a hobby since many others cost nothing at all.
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>>257586927
why are you so retarded
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>>257584357
>when was the last time you payed for a bad game?
When I was buying games regularly. I still buy games occasionally, but only when I am 100% certain that I like those game (usually because I've already played them beforehand) I pirate games that I'm not sure if I will like or not, because I'm careful with how I spend my money and who I support.

>I don't pay for anything unless I know I'm going to at least "like" it
How do you know that you are going to like it if you haven't actually played it? The only way to know for sure before you buy it is either through a demo or pirating. Gameplay videos and reviews/previews are unrelaibale and no substitue for hands on experience. The only way you'll never end up playing anything you don't like is if you play an extremely conservative number of games. Because almost everyone who has more than a casual interest in games endeds up with at least one game they didn't like.

Most people aren't that careful with what they play, so they end up playing a bunch of shit that they in turn rationalize as good games by post-purchase rationalization. There is no cognitive bias when pirating games though, a game is no worse because I pirate instead of buying it.
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>>257586927
>Sold your gaming PC
WHY?
>The bought a PS3
Jesus christ anon
>Gave away PS3
I'm so confused as to why you did this.
>Still have a PC for games
Did you build a new one?
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Casual players are cancer and grill gamurz are awful
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>>257587247

There's a period of years between each thing happening. It's not like this is all happening at once.
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>>257587061
yup, the only people that think gaming is expensive is manchildren that live with their parents. Try taking a girl out to the movies for 2 hours with some popcorn and its already over 30 bucks.
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>>257576292
Never trust anything but consumer reviews, and even then you should watch out for plants trying to make their products look better than it really is. This applies to everything, really.
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>>257586781
>tfw you could've spent 8 meals on yourself
damn
chips and gravy and a nice roast lamb could've done wonders
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>>257586418
>good goy, I can't spend me shekels on entertainment!
>>257586496
I'm serious.
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>>257586017
Yes.
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>>257587528
Well now we have a time scale to work with answer me this question:
WHY WOULD YOU SELL A GAMING PC?
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS UPGRADE IT.
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>>257587595
So am I, you're a self-absorbed shitposter and the reason why this board is shit.
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>>257587582
>he doesn't forego food for more video games
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>>257576292
/v/ has terrible taste and is only marginally better than GameFAQ and NEOGAF
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>>257576292
I never thought that there was such a thing as AI. I thought everyone had a console connected to each other somehow and all the NPC's were people who had different versions of the game to me.
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>>257586927
It seems like you're very confused with sticking with one platform
Can you not afford to be an idort and just buy whatever is the best version to you?
I have PS3+PC+Wii U+PSP+Vita+Gamecube, I try not to sell my shit cause I'll regret it later
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>>257587595
>>I can't spend me shekels on entertainment!

Since when did jews use irish accents?
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>>257579776
>I bought an Xbone

Generally regret it, could have spent the money on car parts which I would have gotten way more enjoyment out of.

The Xbone isn't that bad, I really wanted to play Forza 5, but that was a huge disappointment, though they're slowly making up for it with free shit. BF4 was okay, Trials Fusion was good enough, Watchdogs was fucking awful and that's all I've really played on it thus far.

I'm still waiting on The Division, which I'm holding out hope for, and I'll probably be getting Project Cars too.

All in all the consoles biggest downfall for me is that it tries to do EVERYTHING via the internet, rather than using it's own operating system and hardware.

And when I say everything, I mean everything. You wanna look at your friends list? Let's stream the menu, graphics and all. Wanna look at your achievements? Let's stream all of that too!

It does absolutely nothing client side, if you put a disk in, you have to install it. So will the console use the data on the disk and copy it over? Will it fuck, it'll try and download every single bit of it. When you're somebody like me with pic related internet, it gets pretty fucking annoying quickly when you want to install a game, and rather than doing it via the disk in about 10 minutes, it thinks trying to download it over the course of two days is the more logical option.

All in all, extremely disappointed. Things may improve but it's a fucking terrible start.
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>>257581798
That's because you're a manchild with no self-control.

The game is going to be exactly the same in a year when it's half off as it is right now. Do you really have so little going on in your life that you can't do something equally entertaining until then?
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>>257576292
Any multiplayer-centric game should be bought upon release since it is useless once public focus is shifted elsewhere. That said, most of them are shit and should be skipped. Single player games are the only games that can be enjoyed even years down the road.

Halo 2 on XBL taught me this. Those days were some of the most fun of my life, but short-lived. I play mostly RPGs now.
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>>257583801
>tfw DaS2 cost $76 bucks
I enjoyed it, even if it was a letdown compared to the first but there's no way in hell I'm getting the DLC.
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There is literally nothing wrong with microtransactions.

You should reward people who pay to play, and anyone who disagrees is either a neckbeard who lives in his mom's basement with no income, or a 13 year old who has no income. AT LEAST they re-balance the class and nerf it (I don't play LoL I'm just going by the argument put forth int he article), it's way worse if a game just leaves OP people in the game

People have to realize that games doesn't run on magic and dreams, but on tangible servers that cost money and run up the electricity bill

>>257587552
This.
>>257587889
This.
>>257586781
This.
>>257586003
This.
>>257585260
This.
>>257583726
This.
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>>257588347
>The Division

I really want this game to turn out good, but honestly I doubt it'll be anything above average.
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Nintendo is home and hearth.

Sorry, I'd be lying to myself if I said I didn't feel this way.
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>all these people saying "dont pay more than 20 for a game"

shit man, I could at least understand if this was 1995 or earlier, but twenty greenpapers don't really get you as far as it used to. I could understand 30 or maybe 40 if the game was really good, but 20 dollars is like taking a shit all over the dev's faces.

and yes I get that its a "epic Monkey Island reference", but if you actually let that influence you, you're a man child with no sense of the value of money.
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I've learned to always own a PS1, in case I should happen to find a copy of Final Fantasy Tactics in my travels. Being forced to pass up the opportunity to acquire that game would probably break my psyche.
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>>257589094

It looked promising, but I feel like we've already waited too long for it, considering it was one of the games they showed us before we even had the console, I can't help but think we should have had it sooner.

Might be good though, I guess we'll just have to wait and see, but I'm certainly not getting hyped.
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>>257589054
I'm really not surprised there are posters like you in number on 2014 /v/
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>>257579106
>>never rebuy a game you already beat
Actually, I think that's the only instance in which it's acceptable to pay bigger money on a video game. Special editions or re-releases of games you love are nice to have
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>>257589263
>but 20 dollars is like taking a shit all over the dev's faces.
You don't understand how devs get paid
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>>257576573
>>257579068
http://www.fineleatherjackets.net/monkeyinflation
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>>257589263
If you're thrifty you can buy several games for $20
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If you see the words "free to play" walk the fuck away.
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I've not paid more than £20 for a game in about 5 years
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>>257577073
it's really not if you have a grown up job
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>>257586467
this. i never got to play earthbound back in the day, and i hated the znes emulator, so when I got the U i ended up buying it on VC. Currently getting played more than Unepic and Child of Light, which I bought at the same time.
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>>257589610
That wasn't obvious at first?
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>>257589339
Personally I'm willing to wait longer if that means they're putting more time and content into it. Also hoping for a pc release, I can't remember if they announced if there will be one or not, either way ill be picking it up I would just prefer it to be on pc.
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>>257589564
Still reasonable
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Nobody really cares about getting fucked over. People don't care about DRM or pay to win or any of that shit.
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>>257581190
Always check under the stairs.
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>>257588758
No they won't be the same. Everything about them will be documented and out there. And given this is a video game board, it'd be damn near impossible not to get spoilers that cheat you out of your experience.

Unless you're seriously suggesting not going on /v/ for a year.
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>>257589794
>Personally I'm willing to wait longer if that means they're putting more time and content into it.

You raise a valid point actually, I'm glad they're waiting to actually release a finished product rather than just pushing out like R* did with GTA 5, or Turn 10 with Forza 5. Honestly sometimes playing Forza, you genuinely have to question whether they did play test it at all, so many things are so horrifically broken.
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>>257589054
> baiting this hard
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>>257589109
>kirby malo
this is great
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If I can choose between something good now, or something better later, it's always worth it to wait.
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>>257589109
>Canelo
>Cocu
>Zelda pequeña

What
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>>257589503
sorry, meant to imply that the producers and publishers get most of the money, while the devs get jack shit.
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>never buy a Bethesda-related game less than a year after release
>never pre-order a game
>never buy a game until other people have and relate their experiences to you
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>>257589950
Just avoid threads that talk about the game. I just finished Xenoblade Chronicles 2 days ago for the first time with no spoilers. That game came out 4 years ago. The only time people spam spoilers for a game in a lot of unrelated threads are if it's really hyped or something. And even then it only lasts like a week. From there it's up to you to resist the temptation of discussing a game here till you've played the whole thing.
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No dev cares about you and you don't owe any of them your money. Only buy games that you actually want to buy.
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>>257589564
No way inflation is that low
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>>257590701
>>never buy a game until other people have and relate their experiences to you
Jesus, learn to think for yourself
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>>257588347
>I'm still waiting on The Division, which I'm holding out hope for

That E3 presentation was so cringeworthy
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The only good games are the ones that can be played for the first time years after release and still be enjoyed.

Always wait at least 6 months before you buy a game. If nobody is talking about it 6 months later, it was not a good game and you shouldn't spend your money on it.
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Nintendo games don't get cheaper.
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>>257583928
Has there been any real ground breaking technology lately? All I've been seeing is that the graphics look slightly better.
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>>257581328
Koei-Tecmo
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>>257583604
good calls on all
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You sometimes CAN judge a book by its cover.
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>>257586702
>60 dollars for a game
>Used to be 50 with full manual
>Now get disc and slip of paper
>Nobody can give a clear reason why other then "We want more money"
>Day one DLC, DLC maps, DLC characters, DLC locked on the disc, and Season passes can make a game cost over 100 just to have everything
>Have to pay to go online on Bone and PS4
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>>257591419
No way is inflation that fucking high
>Being surprised you aren't getting poorer faster
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>>257586484
>consoles = industry
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guys, one thing I haven't learned is to not take video games seriously. I'm too much of a role player and I care too much about the objective when I play battlefield and I tend to get kind of butthurt and grumpy when my team loses. I've also been recently getting unreasonably angry when I play against friends on Super Smash Brothers project M.

in project ends case, I can play fine until my friends do something that I deem to be cheap or unfair, like avoiding me until they can get the Smash Ball or just item whoring in general or using try hard tournament level moves on a game that was supposed to be casual and fun. Stuff like this gets me stupidly frustrated, & I know I have a problem with this, what can I do to lighten up my own mood?
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>>257589054
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>>257576292
PC gaming is dying
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>>257597000
>dying
>just as strong as the console market
Fcuking bait goddamnit you got me.
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>>257591536

It sure was anon.

>UGH GUD DAMMET IM DOWN UURRRHRHHH

Fortunately that problem was with shitty voice actors, not the game itself so I'm not too bothered.
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>>257576292
I'd pay 60 yuromoneys for Dragon's Dogma 2.
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>>257578634
TF2 1850 hours - Free(Still paid like 200 bucks for crappy hats and strange weapons though...I was a dumb teenager with no hobbies :|
Dark Souls 400 hours - 5 Bucks
Hotline Miami - 2 bucks
Payday: The Heist - 2 bucks
Minecraft - 10 bucks

I bought so many games but those are the best.
I buy a shit ton of music though, but mostly from Bandcamp, supporting indie artists.
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>>257580992
Seriously, this is so dumb, even if the game will be good, you will regret paying 150 bucks for it, I swear to god I'd beat my ass up for this.
I preorded Sleeping Dogs for 60 bucks 3 years ago and still feel like shit(I think I haven't bought a game this pricey since Empire:Total War and the worst part is that I haven't even played Sleeping dogs for more than 40 minutes
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>>257590701
>never buy a Bethesda-related game
FTFY
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>>257602129

>being this buttblasted
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If you're having fun, you shouldn't give a fuck about what other people think
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>>257601975
>mfw I just bought Sleeping Dogs at a pawn shop for $7
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>>257595272
DLC=disc locked content
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>>257595910
I guess it's too deeply embued into your personality. I guess you can't do anything against that, be angry, but don't go full retard...nobody likes an asshole
Your friends probably like getting you mad, just don't let it get personal and If you think it's enough just quit playing.
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>>257601975
You are missing out anon, it's probably the best GTA clone I've ever played. Not 60 bucks worth, but a fun game nonetheless.
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>>257579106
DLC is NOT inherently bad. Artorias of the Abyss had some of the best content in Dark Souls and was made almost a year after release.
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>>257587552
This!
I mean it's really fuckin expensive. I don't usually spend money like "outside" but if you're out with someone you can't do shit with less than 20 bucks.
Going to the movies with a girl is cheap from this perspective...buying games for 5 bucks and 100 hours entertainment is a real fuckin bargain
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>>257577094
minimum wage is still shit, so inflation doesn't matter.

people don't magically get paid more money just because money is now worth less

still can't afford that shit
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>OP: "Let's have a xx thread
>"Heh what a convenient excuse to troll in the first post!"
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>>257583865
Games on consoles rarely ever have split screen now and if they do you're playing against people online anyways
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>>257589564
Eh, useless
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>>257576817
Wait, that's not real, is it?
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>Never buy into preorder hype
>Always wait for a crowdfunded game to be released before purchasing
>If all the DLC costs more than the actual game when put together, pirate it
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>>257608632
It's a joke.
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>>257576292
>$10-15 to see a movie in theaters
>90-180 minutes
But $60 for (usually) 30+ hours is ludicrous?
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>>257608805
Your a joke.
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>>257580242
> never buy "super slim" console versions

Gotta disagree there, they are cheaper in terms of energy use.
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PlayStation plus is an okay deal.
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Only game I see myself buying full price in the foreseeable future is GTA 5 on pc
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>>257608878
>30+ hours
As if.
Also, you're comparing two different mediums, so fuck off.
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>>257579106
>>257580242
>>257582484
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>>257608878
Apples to oranges anon. Gotta compare movies to movies and games to games when making value judgements.
Also quality of hours > quantity of hours. I can beat Mega Man X in 90 minutes, but that does not make it a bad game because I didn't get 30 hours out of it.
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>>257589054
I view microtransactions in the same vein as DLC: it's a good idea up until capitalists inevitably abuse it with restricted/exclusive content, shallow skinner-boxing, potential price-pushing relative to even normal paid worker-class gamers, etc.

>>257602626
Best post.
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i remember n64 games being $50 pre 2000. if you google the inflation rate, games should cost $70 now if they went up with inflation. so in a way prices have gone down since then
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>>257576292
The only acceptable DLCs are Free and Cosmetics, all others are simply shoehorned into being DLC
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>>257576292

That piracy is 100% justified. I used to be a gigantic moralfag when it came to pirating (even convinced my friend to delete limewire back in the day) but now that I know how much game devs and publishers completely fuck over customers I couldn't give less of a shit.
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>>257612478
No, not really. You can't just adjust for inflation like that, you have to look at the average wage as well.
'round here (Germany) Wages have pretty much stayed the same while inflation went along.
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>>257613035
I try to live by a piracy code of If you like it buy it even if you just keep playing the pirated copy support things you enjoy.
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>>257612478
No nigga, it's simple economics. The demand for retro games has gone up a lot in the past few years while the supply has either remained the same or dropped since no one is manufacturing them anymore. Thus the price increase.
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>>257613202
i knew after posting somebody would bring this up
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>>257613987
Well, it's true, though.
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>mfw I realize that WoWfags who have played for a long time pay $15 a month so in, say, two years, they have paid $360 just to play a glorified slot machine
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>>257613484
i was talking about new games, but yea. i need to go to some flea markets/goodwill/thrift stores and look for some retro games/ consoles to resell on ebay am i terrible person /v/?
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>>257614567
>going to the trouble of listing games on ebay that might not even sell, shipping them, etc, just to make a few dollars profit

You MUST be jewish
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>>257577116
They took your ass for a ride
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>>257578171
underage pls
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>never pay for online multiplayer

I let my xbox live gold expire in 2007, been subscription free since.
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I bought a early acces game once, never again.

Game was 7 days to die.
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>>257590701
But everyone who tells me a game is good winds up being wrong.
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>>257590920
smart man. I wish they'd do a reprint of Xenoblade Chronicles.
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There's no point in telling someone your console is better/ their console is shit because even if they bought the console you have, they would never play with you because of how much of a douche you were to them.
Oh and for 2 years I always thought Touhou was an anime.
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>>257614309
WoW, FFXIV, and almost all mmorpgs fucking suck.
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>>257613202
Speaking of retro games, never spend more than $10 for a used game.
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>>257578510
This guy knows exactly what is up.
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>>257608878
People buy 20 dollar meals that only last maybe 30mins
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>>257617064
but what if it's a collector's item that can only go up in value
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>engaging in public discourse
>2014

Why would you place yourself in this shit show? You're either retarded enough to play a part in this rat race where absolutely nothing productive is accomplished, or you're smart enough to realize 99% of people you're arguing against have no idea what they are talking about. There is no reason to engage in public discourse whatsoever over the internet, and even in real life. Explaining things to people solves nothing, all that really matters is action. Stop feeding into peoples stupidity, if someone says something stupid ok ignore them they're retarded. If they automatically assume they are right because of no response then congrats, you have no responsibility to babysit retards especially over the internet where half are likely not even genuine.

>>257578510
Underrated post
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Never trust a trailer and don't let it hype you up.
Fucking Ass Creed 1
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>>257612478
>i remember n64 games being $50 pre 2000. if you google the inflation rate, games should cost $70 now if they went up with inflation

That ain't nothin m8.
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>>257617508

Amazing, we can download all the games ever made for the genesis in less than 5 minutes these days. If you told people that when the consoles were around they would think you were a fucking wizard.
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>>257576534
Your taste is terrible. Cancer faggots like you are the sole reason the entire series went to shit in the first place. Please liquify your shit and put it in your vains so you can die a shitty death.
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>>257578510
> never believe reviewers
Unless the game undoubtedly looks horrible, for good games it'll take some word of mouth.
> never fall for hype
Unless the game is a sequel to a series that has never had a bad game.
> never pay more than 20 raccoon hides for a videogame
Goodluck waiting for a price drop for really,really good games.
> never buy AAA outside of major sales
See above^^^
> never preorder games
Unless the game is pretty much guaranteed to be good, much like the hype explanation.
> always pirate a game without demo version, you don't deserve to lose your money
I agree
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>bought REvelations for $10 on eshop

>already 40+ hours dedicated

Money well invested
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>>257616897
unless you are having fun.
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>>257576292

Let me fix that for you OP

>Hardly any game today is worth paying $60 for

There are a few gems that are worth full price
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>don't get hype for anything ever because it will always be complete shit
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>>257576292
Get a job and stop living off from mom's pocket change. I earn $15 per hour in a mid-time job while in college
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>>257617470
you're forgetting about the memes, Anon, the dominant/correct idea is more likely to spread and stick than incorrect ideas

think of that retard whose nonsensical statement you just disproved, maybe that guy, or somebody else that previously agreed with him will suddenly feel convinced of your view.
That person will then later on defend their (=your) idea when it's challenged by some other retard, and perhaps convince more people, who in turn may also continue this process and create an ever growing tree of memetic transmissions
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>No matter how much they insist. Video games aren't in anyway better than sex.
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>>257618521
You'd still want to work 4 hours for a game you could download in the same time for no cost?
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>>257618735
what if it's really bad sex
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>>257578171
>preordering thi4f
what the hell were you thinking?
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>>257618808
Yeah, please direct me to the page where I can download Wii U games and play them for free.
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>>257618735
What if it's a game that gets you so immersed you don't think about sex?
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>>257578171
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>>257579420

Youre still an edgy teen, faggot.
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>>257619258
name a game that has done that for anyone?
What game would you rather be playing right now instead of fucking a qt?
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>>257578171
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>>257619661
Guitar Hero II
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>>257619145
I'm sure you can find an N64 emulator on your own, anon
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Pretty much this.
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>>257620892
>don't pre-order

>launch day

>"hi, can I get a copy of X game?"

>"sorry, we ran out, not gonna get more copies until next week"
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>>257621198
>go to best buy
>go to wal amrt
>go to toys R us
>go to fucking Costco
>They all have it

No one's this retarded, right?
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Do you HAVE to have it on day 1?
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>>257621430
Good luck finding a copy of Smash 3DS on launch day
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>>257621198
>pre-order
>"hi can I get a copy of X game when it's released?"
>"sorry, we're all out, we're not gonna get more copies until around a week after it's released."
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>>257621198
Unless it's Call of Duty, this doesn't happen.
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>>257621198
gamestop is the only place that does this far as I know.... i can walk into any other store and get the game I want easily
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>Digital is better than physical.
Unless you have to overcompensate for your small penis and lack of social skills.
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>>257621616
I found a store literally overloaded on GTAV copies, I'm sure I'll be fine.
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>>257621984
>super AAA marketed to hell game
>comparable to a simple hyped Nintendo game
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>>257621616
>implying I won't buy superior Wii U version instead
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>>257576292
Not only should you spoil yourself on games before they come out, but it's an absolute necessity to know what you're paying for in advance
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>>257576573
Updated the pic for nowadays.
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>>257617508
All the games I buy now are less than €20. I have never liked a full priced game. €20 or less games always prioritize gameplay over everything else.

Life is good!
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>>257586927
>>Collector's Edition for PC because m-muh coin
>>Steam version for PC because m-muh no disc

What did you dooo

No,seriously. There is not one game you cannot patch to play without CD, how are you so fucking retarded?
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>>257622121
I'm pretty sure GTA 5 was one of the greatest selling game of all time, was it not? take that for what you will.
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>>257622832
That's the point. They made millions and millions of copies.
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>>257577682
>inb4 reply from hours ago
Idea guys are the worst. My brain always shuts down when someone tells me "Hey, I have an idea for a videogame". If you can't make a simple prototype to show me then fuck off.
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>>257621198
>Running out of games
>Digital downloads.

Are you from 10 years ago?
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I'm glad I pirated all this shit.
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>>257623035
You played that tripe. They had the last laugh.
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>>257622919
I still think I'll do okay. I live in a low population area with ton of stores that sell vidya.
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>>257622990
>actually getting Smash 3DS digitally
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>>257589651
In ireland and im pretty sure most of western europe its 60 euro 70 euro for new gen games. That's 93 dollars. Imagine paying 93 dollars for a game thinking it was going to be great and it turning out to be shit or like 4 hours long or something. Game prices are absolute bullshit.
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>>257623262
I have no idea how Nintendo games are distributed.
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>>257586149
I bought San Andreas 3 times, almost 4.

First on PC at release, then when I got a new computer my brother lost one of the install discs.

Copy for PS2, which got scratched to shit also from brother

3rd also for PS2, which either got scratched or lost, by my brother

I'm tempted to buy it on Steam at the next sale
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>>257623292
I pay €200 on one night out at the weekend in Ireland. We make decent money in this country. €60 is not a lot of money if you have a job.

The mistake you are making is buying €60 games though. AAA is always shit.
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>>257623149
Heavily modded, didn't even buy it and got the "full" experience.
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>>257623502
inb4 your brother has your steam account banned.
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>always play the waiting game. That game that came out is going to be on sale with all the dlc very cheap in 2 years. You have plenty of games to catch up on anyway
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>>257623586
>We make decent money in this country
Compared to third world countries yeah maybe but in reality the entire employment system is borderline abuse I had to do 3 internships before getting a job that pays 250 a week. If you're making decent money, fair play and congrats but most of the country, especially Dublin isn't.
I also learned my lesson about paying that much for games. Last straw was Skyrim, game wasn't even finished and they had the audacity to charge 60 for it.
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>>257623292
Isn't minimum wage $25 an hour or some shit there?
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>>257624226
You are on less than minimum wage dude. Are you talking about jobs bridge? Yes that is a scam and you are being taken advantage off. Its a disgrace in fact.

You get paid reasonably well in a real job though.
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>>257624456
€8.50 so a bit more than $10 dollars I think.
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>>257624456
8.65
>>257624461
I was on jobsbridge, I was forced into it by the social. Now I'm working 40 hours a week in the only job that would hire me. It was literally this or more jobbridge. I'm just happy to have money.
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Feels good being a PCfat. I can choose to support a video game dev and when I do, it doesn't cost me $40+ and a trip to shitstop.
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>>257624685
Sorry to hear it. Why not go to Aus or Canada? they are supposed to be happy to have us. Things are turning around.
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>>257619258
Marvel vs Capcom 3
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>>257623684
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>>257624918
After food and bills and all I have about 20 euro at the end of the week. So if its still shit by the time I have that kind of money I'll definitely be off, untill then I'm just going to suck it up and get on with it. Could be worse.
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Any Smash Bros game post n64. Any good RPG. MOST Metroid games (you know which one isn't). All Zelda games (yes including SS, it was fun). W101 was worth 60 dollars but I got it for 30.
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>>257618462
The one on the right looks like a PS2 game.
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>>257619661
violated heroine, because i want to be the qt being fucked
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>>257621616
But I already preordered it at Best But to get the cool coin! :^)
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>>257578510
Updates:
>Never buy a game that isnt finished and that at least has some devs working on patches and updates
>Never believe From, EA, ND, Bethesda, Sony, Ubisoft, etc... lies
>If pirated and liked support the game
>Once a game goes gold the next updates comes probably in a month or two so wait if you are seeing too many people complain about bugs
>Never get a MP game if you live in a 3rd world country except they have servers for your region
>Greece, USA, Russia, Slav, Brazil doesnt matter where it comes if its good its good. Keep the prejudice in society not on vidya it may turn you away from great games
>Get adblock the ads really work, trust me i almost bought titanfall.
>Always give it a second try. Good graphics attracts but good gameplay charms.
>Its a game, always remember that. Not a movie nor a book
>Have fun
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>>257621198
This only ever happens with big games and even then very rarely in this day and age. You are falling for the exact shit he's talking about.

Even then go to a department store, they never sell out of anything because no one thinks to go there. Bookstore in my town always sold out of the new Harry Potter and there would always be a stack of them in K Mart that me and my dad were smart enough to go to.
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>>257579776
I bought a PS4 and I mainly use it as a $400 Battlefield 4 machine. I feel pretty bad for buying this early but I had the extra money so I decided why not. I bought all my PS4 games at a discount. $40 for Battlefield 4, $40 for Killzone, $20 for Ghosts and $40 for Black Flag. I played maybe 30 hours top for everything but Battlefield, which I have about 400 hours into. Don't Starve is pretty comfy so I spend a lot of time on that as well. Overall, I'd say not worth it yet. I'd wait for a decent bundle, more games, and when they finally decide to support your phone's, music and etc. I thought this was next-gen Sony. Fuck me.
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