Welcome to the new age

Silky smooth 30fps

>>257510714

guy is terrible, like no headshots at all

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>>257510714
>tfw this will probably be the last console generation before pcs take over

Alright what are we complaining today?

What are you trying to accomplish OP?

>>257510714
Its just a reboot of halo. Also Robin is dead! how can you talk about this crap when a legend has died!

>>257510932
>PCs take over

Sorry, that won't happen. PC might pick up the scraps however, when mainstream moves away from the console model toward something different. Probably some streaming casual shit.

>>257510714
RADIOACTIVE
RADIOACTIVE

>there are people actually hyped for a casual console fps because it has nice skyboxes

Bungle fans are truly one of the worst fanbases ever but they don't get criticized enough because of the "nobody likes Halo on /v/" mentality. These people are real.

At least it's stable.

Still really stupid that consoles can't manage 1080p/60 FPS in 2014. Do we REALLY need to wait till 2024+?

I still don't understand how they spent so much money to make a Borderlands clone.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

>>257510714
To the new age.

>>257511481
Welcome to the new age

>>257511576

UH OH OH

Looks fine to me, and the beta played fine as well.

No one is arguing that 30 is better than 60 FPS; 60 looks better, definitely. But for mustards to scream and shout and cry that 30 FPS is "LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE, SATAN INCARNATE, GOD WEEPS FOR US" is just stupid.

Well, at least it's semi consistent.

>>257511047
>>257511298
>>257511356
Look at all these faggots who didn't even try the fucking free-to-access beta.

Wow, I'm actually impressed NOT!

>>257510714
I'm honestly stunned that didn't dip even once, even at shitty 30fps. Obviously ideally we'd have 60fps but last gen we had 30fps that was barely ever constant. It's shitty, but at least it's not as shitty. PC still wins, obviously.

>>257511629
>settling for anything but the best

>>257511715

I did, and I got bored pretty quickly.

>>257510714
Why does this look so un-fun? It's like Halo with all the good stuff removed.

>>257510714
WOOOOAH!!!RADIOACTIVE!!
sorry

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>>257511715
>calling people faggots for not owning a console that forces the user to pay for online

I'd rather have decreased visual pretty and smoother gameplay any day of the week.

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>>257510714
>Upscaled 1080p
>30 FPS
>Aiming with a controller

>>257511781

Clearly the game is capable of handling much higher frame rates, but they capped it at 30 for some retarded reason.

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You ready for another ten years, /v/?

>2014
>Being satisfied with half the framerate of the average PS2 game

>>257510932
PCs will never take over. The TBBT audience will always think that PC gaming is too expensive, and they're the ones that eat up the most shit and spend the most money.

>>257510924
But of course. It's a console game, you can see that when he zooms in, the sights automatically move towards the enemy's center of mass and then the excessive aim assist makes it stick there. He would actually have to do something manually if he wanted headshots.

I'M WAKING UP
I'M CHECKING OUT

>>257511939
Capable? Sure, but not consistently. This is coming from someone who doesn't even own a console, I'd take a consistent 30 over an occasional 60 that dips into 50 and 45 anytime shit hits the fan, which you know would happen.

>>257510714
Is this PS4 or Xbone? I played on 360 and that shit was more jagged than your moms elbows.

>>257510932

I remember when people were posting this kind of shit about pc gaming prior to steam becoming big

>>257512153
fuck you she's got dry skin

>>257512034
Hell, when he DOES try to aim, all that happens is the aim goes fucking bonkers and way off target like at the point where that thing jumps on the rock.

BOBOBOBOBO

BONFIREEEEEEEEE

>>257512153

filename says ps4, you're right though my friends are still 360 and they were complaining the whole time, I didn't believe them so I downloaded it and couldn't believe just how bad it was

>>257511715

>if he hates it he didn't play it

Great, it's fucking W101 all over again.

The game is slow as fuck even with skills like double jump. Jelly screen health regen. All the guns are just reskins of real weapons and function in the same way. They also have the same stupid video game logic of shotguns that shouldn't work more than two feet away from your target. There's an ammo pool which makes no fucking sense in a science fiction game and the AI is pants on head retarded. The enemies either circle cover repeatedly or they just run right at you. The bosses are just bullet sponges that force you to magdump, kill one of the infinitely respawning little guys to get more ammo, then magdump again. The class skills are even more useless than Borderlands, somehow. Grenade with blue particles, grenade with red particles and dot, and a solar gun with 3 shots. Wow, such variety. Never mind that to even try this piece of shit, you had to play an fps with a CONTROLLER and have a frame rate below 60fps. "MMO" with 2-3 players, objective markers out the ass so no exploration allowed, nonexistent background music, and "See that mountain? You can look at it a lot."

Destiny was so fucking boring that it made Boredomlands of all things look good. At least that's someone fast paced and works on PC.

>>257511892

To be fair there is a ps3 version. That's the one I played because it's pretty hard to stomach the ps4 at this point and I'm a huge Sony fanboy.

Can someone explain to me what the benefit of limiting the frames per second is?

>>257512494
Consistent fps. That's pretty much it.

>>257512494

Dupe a bunch of idiots who never tried to play a sub 60fps shooter after switching to 60fps into thinking they bought a supercharged pc because the inevitable pc version will have downgraded textures and locked framerates that make it look identical to the ps4 and bone versions.

>>257512034

even when I would spray and pray I still managed a bunch of headshots

Nice that the PS4 can do 30fps consistently. Wonder how the Xbox 360 version's gonna do.

>>257510714
In it's defense it actually is constant 30 fps when other games stutter around 20. I'm not saying I'm delusional and think eyes-can-only-see-24fps is true, but for consoles and playing on a tv screen 60 fps isn't necessary, especially since your playing on a controller and precision only facors into arena shooters and the like.

>>257512494

So it lines up with what displays are capable of.

>>257512602
If there is so little difference between 60 FPS and 30 FPS as the devs say, wouldn't the difference be not very noticeable as well and just be not worth the work to add it?

>>257510901
Why is it that they can't do 60 fps /v/? Is it because the graphics will get watered down too much?

Consistent 60fps>Consistent 30fps>Inconsistent 60fps>Inconsistent 30fps

Beats the last console generation by a long-shot, which is pretty fucking sad because it's still mediocre.

God that last console generation was held together with duct-tape and dreams near the end.

>>257510932
>PCs
>Not phones and tablets

Couldn't they have just implemented a setting that made the game run at 60fps with a loss in visual fidelity?

I know FFXIV on the ps4 lets you choose between 1080p and 720

>>257512837

To get destiny at 60fps you would either have to destroy draw distances to the point of pop in like they used to or else give people ps2 textures with no anti aliasing, filtering, or shadows.

>>257510714
>now 60 FPS are a thing

>>257513046
So then why the obsessive bitching about fps?

>>257510714
You will never ever taste those grapes.

As it turns out, during the beta, framerates were consistently 30 on all 4 platforms. No dips to speak of, except for the PS3- there was one dip in footage I saw where it dropped to 29. But that's it.

Honestly? Not bad, Bungie. Delivering a consistent experience across all platforms available.

>>257511948
give it about 2-3 more years, they'll axe them when sales really start to stagnate due to shit graphics. then we might finally get some consoles that can max crysis.

>>257512749

Even if 60fps isn't a much better experience, there would still be Input lag, reaction time, etc.

30 fps is shit that no one should stand for if you care about quality.

>>257513135

Because I don't give a flying fuck about graphics and I would be a lot more inclined to buy this piece of shit if it at least ran at 60fps. You can get mkb support for ps3 so the game would at least be playable at that point.

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>>257510714
>People are actually hyped for this shit

>>257512837

They focus tested it in the industry. Plebs will always choose pretty vs better experience and plebs make up a majority of the market.

>>257513315
But that anon said you will also get less draw distance? Wouldn't it just make more sense to bitch about fps if you were playing on pc?

>>257510901
SILKY MOTHER FUCKING SMOOTH 30 FPS

>>257510714

buttery smooth 30fps

>>257513458
>Plebs will always choose pretty vs better experience and plebs make up a majority of the market.

But if a game is a solid 30 fps and is built to be a slower pace game then what is the issue? Not counting Destiny of course.

>>257511323

Consoles will never have standardized 60 fps.

For every bit of performance you get every gen, it will be spend on additional superfluous graphics fluff instead of frame rate, because the console audience prioritizes graphics over improved input and response.

>>257511629

>Having no standards
>Demonizing the concept of having standards

Consolefags like you are the reason the market is in the shape it is.

>>257513694
you mean consistent 30fps. Smooth would be where you can't see choppyness

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>>257510714

>>257514170

I dunno about the cake, a lot of people wouldn't shut up about pool's closed and had no idea what they were talking about.

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>>257511948
IM READY!

>>257510924
You can't shoot in the head with less than 60fps.
The game doesn't draw hitboxes above chest until 60fps is reached

>>257510714
>max. 4 enemies onscreen
>silky smooth 30FPS
>muh powerful nuxt gen

>>257514170
Why was this taken down?

>>257511629
>It's okay for something that has been the standard for over a decade on PC to STILL not b common on consoles

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>>257510714
Killzone couldn't draw grass that far nor maintain a solid framerate.
It's crazy how they have to limit a game's draw distance this much just to get past 30fps and still have drops on Playstation 4.

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Gaming died in 2007. 2006 was the last good year for vidya, and the last good year for everything else in this world.

>>257514902
Because you can delete your own posts
OR
It's copypasta shitposting.

I have to give bungie credit, they're the masters of 30fps. Whatever that is worth.

>>257515402
Yeh, just realized it.

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>mfw new 144hz monitor and 780 arriving tomorrow

>>257511798
>60fps
>best
120fps is already a thing anon, 60fps should just be the new standard when it comes to what we should expect from videogames these days, technology is easily advanced enough to achieve this on PC's without issue, it's just the consoles are already incredibly outdated.

>>257512837
garbage CPU. Xbone and PS4 were basically tailor made for 30fps around or about 720p-1080p.

Simply put, consumers didn't give enough of a shit, so the "next gen" isn't giving them anything more.

>>257515683

Oooooh shit nigga, it's time. Remember to activate 144hz in your graphics card control panel and not be a dumb bitch like that guy in the last 144hz thread who was still running 60hz.

Make sure you lightboost that bitch to further increase clarity. UFO test is a great tool to use while tweaking lightboost settings.

http://www.testufo.com/#test=framerates

wow so silky
much smooth

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>>257511948
Ten more years of heavy DoF mods.

>>257513716
Nothing. Problem is, very few games are actually THAT slow paced. Even menu driven RPGs can frustrate me when I'm hammering through menus at 30 vs 60. It's all about responsiveness. There are ways around this sort of thing, but rarely is it ever accounted for.

Gaming is all about marketing these days. If it looks good, and you advertise with those visuals, your shit will sell, regardless of how it plays.

>>257516037
I don't mind DoF but holy shit has this guy short sighted?

>>257514651
Well thats a fucking lie. It has to be or the game hits 60 sometimes.
There were tons of headshots in the beta

>>257516164
IM PUKING

>>257516010
no

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>>257516128
For the 8 billionth time it's third person.

>>257511047
Reboot of halo how?

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>>257516259
you don't even know what puke is

>>257516332
Bungie is making it so it must be Halo.
Just like how From is making Bloodborne so it must be a Souls game.
People are new to the concept of developers making multiple franchises.

>>257516128
>consoletard detected
cute

>>257516164
That Ambient Occlusion is so choppy.
And why did his idle animation come to a halt?

>>257510714
>straight 30 FPS
Nothing new from Bungie.

>>257516341
wow... that looks like a ps2 game

Come on, man. Robbin Williams is dead and all you can do is post shit about framerates? You heartless cunt.

You fucking cunt. ROBIN WILLIAMS IS DEAD.

>>257514847
Max 4 in that clip.
Sure. But not in game

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>>257510714
Thanks for reminding me how mediocre Destiny was.

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>>257516581
hey, Vice City had better building textures than that.

>>257516484
That is not ambient occlusion. It's just self shadowing. Shadow resolution is too low.

>>257514624
Looks like her hands are feeding on the blood of her dead body.

>>257516652

Vice city didn't have to wait to load in textures like Infamous did in that screenshot.

>>257516469
I dont understand.
So you cant tell me shit. You just said something you heard someone else say.
Thanks for giving literally zero information faggot.

>>257516740
yeah, and that's why Vice City is a better looking game.

>>257515226
The real question is, why fucking render the grass at all at that point? Just fucking remove it entirely.

>>257516652
how the fuck can sony get away with this? Shouldn't they be hit with a false advertising lawsuit AT LEAST??

Who cares? It's on a console. The PC version will have everything you graphic whores want and will run at 60FPS provided you have the hardware for it.

>>257516740
BULL FUCKING SHIT

All the GTAs could get fucking terrible pop-ups at time, and often as fuck too

Fucking kids I swear. I don't care how shitty PS4 games look, consoles have always been behind, GTA series was proof enough of that during the PS2 days

>>257516654
>self shadowing
My mistake. When I think AO I think dark glow around objects in an attempt to give them depth and it's generally very blurry.

>>257516827
It's texture pop in. Or in this case failure to pop in.

The game looks much nicer than this sometimes it just has trouble loading it.

>>257516310
Doesn't matter what the fucking camera position is. No one has sight that bad.

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>30fps
>2014
What is the fucking point? Looks like a cool game but fuck man if I want to look at slideshows I'll open Powerpoint.

>>257516341
And my game never looked like that. stop shitposting. You had a bug. Restart the game like a normal human being would instead of being a typical /v/irgin faggot

>>257514624

How did you get down there?

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>>257515683
it's a good feel

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>>257510714
Is the gameplay supposed to look so incredibly boring?

They finally did it. Someone finally got the silky smooth 30 fps to work without looking like ass instead of the jittery as fuck 20-30 fps.

Bravo, Bungie. Truly, you are what all developers should strive to be.

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>>257516974
>slow texture loading
>a bug
holy shit

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>>257516479

>>257512946
This

Smartphones already have better resolution screens than TV's and Monitors, it's pretty obvious it will attract newcomers in the gaming industry to it due to the simplicity of self-publishing on something like an app store and how easy it is to make money off of games. We'll still have our AAA titles on PC and Consoles but don't be surprised if the majority of games are played on Tablets or Phones in the next 5 years

>>257513813
good argument coming from the "better graphics pc master race"

>>257510714
>cotton ball bullets
>everyone is moving slow like a fat american in a grocery store
>eye melting bloom

Console fps sure are "good".
Remember when people were saying
>hur dur you're mad because you're not getting Destiny
Well you can keep it.

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>>257516974
Nope. It just can't do anything at a distance.

This is from a little bit away.

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>>257516887
60fps is the more important aspect as well as mouse-aim for a shooter.
Once you get that out of the way you can worry about graphics.

>>257517187

Except PC doesn't need to make a choice. We get both the graphics fluff and the frame rate.

Your little overpriced shitbox wannabe laptops need to make a choice, and you make the wrong one.

Try again, consolefriend.

>>257510714
Holy fuck how is the person recording this so fucking bad?

Jesus fucking christ

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>>257517198
And right up close. Nothing wrong with anyone copy. It's just the game.

Besides if there was something wrong with the copy, then that would imply there is something wrong the the PS4. And nothing could possibly be wrong with the PS4 with SONY STAMP OF QUALITY MADE IN CHINA*.

>>257517262
they fucked the vita version up so hard....

>>257517394
You wouldn't know that by reading reviews.

What's the point of buying the PS4 version over PS3? It's more expensive, you need a more expensive console to run it, you need to pay for multiplayer and it doesn't even perform any better. It's 2014, why are console still underperforming so much?

>>257517461
Looks better

The lips on the waifus alone...

>>257517461

>why are console still underperforming so much?

Must be the cpu. Ps4s gpu isn't that bad

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>>257517262
Holy shit, I just noticed the caption:
>My eyes keep bleeding for no reason.

>>257517527

Look exactly the same on both platforms.

>>257517305
maybe if I spend more than a 1000$

>>257517552
>My eyes keep bleeding
>The patriarchy did this...

>>257517461
1080P>720P
Better graphics>worse graphics

If you have a PS4, why the hell not? If you only have a console and you don't have a PS4, get a PS4. If you have a PC+PS3, get the PS3 version or wait for the PC or you could buy a PS4

Okay, 30fps, I get it
The real problem is how shit the gameplay is, looks worse than borderlands

>>257517619
Nope. I've seen webms of the character creation, PS4 looks better.

As lousy as The Last Of Us is at least they let us choose between grafics and framerate. Why don't more games do that?

>>257510714

woah...

>>257517179
>Smartphones already have better resolution screens than TV's and Monitors
I can't wait until they start making TV and monitor sized screens using the same tech as smartphones.

>those deep blacks
>that crisp resolution

Honestly, I'd rather have a perfect thirty FPS with no drops in a game than one that tries too hard to look pretty and constantly drops frames like Killzone Shadow Fall.

But that's just my
>opinion

>>257517801
Either way the devs are shit tier.

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>>257514651

>You can't shoot in the head with less than 60fps.

>Did at least 100 headshots in the Beta because it's where the enemies are weak

>>257517737

Show me.

>>257517801
Agreed. I'd prefer 60 every time, but the most important thing is a stable FPS. Unless it's truly shit FPS, as long as it's stable you'll sort of forget about it and get used to a bad FPS, but you'll never get used to a spikey one.

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>>257517856

How can I profit off of this impending failure? Can I short Activision Blizzard? How much do you think their stock will plummet?

>>257517894
Sorry, I didn't save them, but someone kept posting them constantly in webm threads. I played the beta on the 360 and I was distinctly disappointed that my waifu didn't look as good as the one in the webm.

Like I said, lips in particular.

>>257517619
>2 weeks ago: HAHAHAHAHAHA FUCKING TITANFALL IS STILL RUNNING AT 720P
>now
>720P looks just as good at 1080P
At least be fucking consistent /v/

Why do consolefags get all defensive when they get called over 1080p and 60 fps?
Its fucking 2014 and anything bellow 1080p and 60 fps shouldn't be allowed to be released
Do they complain about brick houses too and how they would rather live in caves?
I bet they dont even want to leave this shitty planet and live on the moon or shit
Cant wait for that crash

>>257518064
I thought Titanfall was really fun and now I want wall running in all my FPSs

>>257517785
>Crisp resolution
That's from the small screen size, pixels per inch (PPI) does that, it's not magical technology.

>>257518068
I dunno, why are PCfags so aggressively and passive aggressively annoying about that shit? If you're so above it why do you consistently wallow in their bullshit?

>>257518041

Maybe you just weren't using the right player model.

>>257518193
Shh, let him believe.

>>257511356
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/07/07/sir-paul-mccartney-writing-music-for-bungie/

>>257518251
>implying I do
Unlike those degenerates I don't support the decline of civilization

>>257510714
Wow, so this is why Destiny boasted its game with skybox pictures. This looks incredibly fucking boring, and I'm a PS4 owner. I only secured one early so that I don't have to rush to get one when MGSV: TPP comes out.

>>257518329
There's only one model per race+gender with various faces. None of them looked that good. Believe me, I was thorough.

I mean, to really reach, I guess the webm might have been some tech demo or some shit? The dude who was posting them said it was from a PS4 he captured. I won't know until I see it on my friend'sPS4 myself.

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>>257515069

Wrong, decade ago no one gave shit about fps, people just played vidya.

>>257518586
Decade ago everything ran at the same fps

>>257510714
Holy shit a game with a stable framerate on current gen consoles.

>>257510714
Man that guy seriously sucks at Borderlands 2

>>257517179

The core component of a video game is gameplay.

No physical controls on phones severely hampers gameplay.

Expect all phones games to be shit.

My proof: Look at all the most popular phones games.

>>257510714
>dat AI

>>257518781
Don't worry, that new Marvel fighting game coming out for phones and tablets will break the trend!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>257517394

>Implying the original isn't a steam pile already.

>>257518586
>Wrong, decade ago no one gave shit about fps, people just played vidya.
Because developers back then weren't lazy fucks that didn't give two shits abouts optimization.All games save for a few ran exceptionally well

>>257518878
Where did he imply that? The vita port is a terrible job, the quality of the initial game is irrelevant, it's a matter of comparison.

>>257510714
>Enemy attacks with slooooow energy bolts or with daggers
>Player uses a gun
GOTY

>>257518521

No, I meant you had the wrong face. I was able to get the girl from the webm on my first try, on my 360, and she looked exactly the same.

>>257519013

How do you fuck up something that's already fucked up? Does anyone thing a nicely swirled pile of poop is better than just a splatter? Shit is shit.

>>257518068

Because all it does is start slap fights on the internet between neckbeards. And to be honest it's a stupid argument, no shit a PC is going to do better with the right equipment, the tradeoff being that said equipment is going to cost more than a console. A GPU that performs better than either console will at least start around $200.

Some of us, myself included, simply don't give a fuck as long as the game is fun. Sure with older games there is a brief adjustment period, but after that everything is fine.

>>257518586

A decade ago you were fucking underage and didn't know what the fuck you were talking about.

15 years ago I was flipping my shit because the first Geforce card was released and it could run Quake 2 at 120 fps.

>>257519106
I dunno man, I went through every face and the textures didn't look as good, I particularly remember the webm lips looking shiny and mine didn't.

Stable 30 is far more preferable than unstable anything else.

>>257510714
>30fps
>the definition of generic FPS
It hurts

>>257519316
My framerates on BF4 fluctuate around 130-110. Not stable but much more preferable than 30.

>>257518781
Idk. Soul Calibur worked pretty well on phones. Biggest hindrance to games like that is lacking the ability to hit multiple keys at the same time, forcing you to have combination keys.

On SC Mobile, on the right hand side of the screen you have A, B and Kick, with Guard underneath them, This means you can hit A and B at the same time, or BK, or AG, or KG, but not BG, and certainly not ABK or ABKG. This means you rely on "shortcut keys" like having a key for AK and BG, pressing both of those at the same time is just like pressing all 4.

This poses a small problem for mobile fighting games that require more than 2 button presses at the same time. For instance, Street Fighter would be perfectly fine on a device with a large enough screen, as long as it has LMH kicks and punches, and 3x kick and punch buttons. Throw is LP+LK, focus is MP+MK, and doing an ultra is pressing all 3 kicks or punches.

But yeah. Honestly. Fighting games would work really well on touch devices as long as there are enough buttons.

>>257510714
That white bar at the top is a health bar? How many hits does he take and it doesn't even go half way?

Why the fuck does the shitty ass screen glow dark red if you have a fucking health bar? Why are you taking literally every cancerous effect possible and mashing it all into a single game?

>>257517785
a lot of it comes from OLED displays too. That's where the "deep blacks" part comes from LCDs and plasmas can't even touch OLED.

>>257519582
Health depends on stats, which in the beta are highly dependent on class. One of the classes has considerably more health.

The red glow is to let you know that you're close to death without needing to look up, game needs an option to turn that off though.

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Not only are new-gen consoles underpowered compared to medium-end PC's, publishers also force their devs to insert as much useless graphical fidelity as possible for marketing so end up with shitty 30 fps and 900p upscaled to 1080p. PC is closing in on transition to 4K and fucking consoles is still struggling with something as basic as 1080p 60 fps. Differences will only grow with time as Sony/MS become less willing to make cutting-edge consoles when they could spend that money on marketing instead, mimicking the Apple model.

>>257517394
>>257517451
>>257519013
>>257517552

Actually if you watch the whole video and not the cherrypicked section the game runs at 30fps the overwhelming majority of the time.

Not that anyone expects framerate fags to not post bait.

>>257519764
>Close to death

Once again, health bar doesn't even go half way.

>>257515683
>Buying a 780

Why? Do you not realize that the 800 series is coming out in 2 months?

>>257519796
at a substantial visual downgrade.

And it's a huge issue if the main hub town that you visit all the time between quests runs like garbage.

>>257519908
>Waiting for the next tech piece to release before buying
You'll just be waiting forever son.

>>257519783

>pc dips to 55
>people actually give the ps4 and xbone versions shit for dipping into the high 40s while they stay in the 50s and near 60 most of the time

Ayy lmao

>>257519908
>buying the 800 series
The 900 series will be out a little bit after that.

Maybe he got it a while ago

>>257519847
Oh my bad, that glow effect is getting hit. You can see sometimes it's on the right side of the screen, and I think all around is when it's directly from in front.

>>257519990
The console port of BF4 is actually quite decent. But it still doesn't hold up to an average gaming PC. Despite being just launched and said to be 5+ years consoles.

Well, at least it was 30 fps the entire time, regardless of what was happening on screen....

>>257516341

wtf,how is that even fucking possible.
infamous 2 looked better than that.

>>257515226
But The Witcher 2 does the same on PC.

>>257520017
>Buying the 900 series.
The 1,000 series will be here before you know it.
Why even waste the cash when there will be a huge price drop?

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>micro-transactions
>30 fps
>"social" gaming
>paid peer-to-peer online play
>no fucking games save established series or latest CoD rip-offs
Why did consoles die?

>>257519940

Of course there's a substantial visual downgrade, it's a pretty massive ps360 being crammed into a handheld ps2.

And no, it's not an issue if you have frame drops in Sanctuary because there is no gameplay in Sanctuary.

>>257520103

I'm pretty sure your statistically average gaming computer is a toaster from 2008. But if you meant median then yeah, you would be very correct. I just think it's stupid to use bf4 as an example of all things. There's a lot of poor next gen console games that have many more framerate issues than bf4.

>>257520128
The PS4 has awful texture streaming issues. To the point where screenshots comparing the platforms by Eurogamer occasionally have the PS4 version's textures not streamed in.

>>257520134
Both TW2 and Crysis had issues with small things on the ground popping in like 10 feet in front of your character.

What is the resolution? I'd take 720p with extra frames.

I honestly don't think 720p looks bad if you aren't sitting in front of a monitor.

>>257510901

At least it stays at 30 and doesn't dip below so that's something.

All this fps talk aside, that looks incredibly boring.

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>>257510714
>that retirement home tier slooooow gameplay
Wow, I suddenly don't hate UT3 anymore.

>>257520249
actually racing games are pretty bad at 60 fps

Destiny's competitive gameplay is pretty fun

Some of the missions in the beta were fun but most of them were boring garbage

>>257520607
>slooooow gameplay
That's why I immediately uninstalled Killing Floor.

>>257520654
That's right, 120fps or bust.

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>>257511298
The irony being that multiplat games have had absolute garbage skyboxes for a long time because of console restrictions.

>>257520728
>implying most people on /v/ can even get 120 fps at all
>let alone maintain it at 1080p

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>>257520728
Agreed.

>>257518193
So make a fucking monitor with the same PPI.

Hence using the same technology.

>>257520798
No problem here maintaining it and loving it.

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>mfw despite what the kiddies say, consoles are the thing holding grafix back.
>mfw "next-gen" consoles can't even run games at 60 fps as of now, just imagine how it will be as we progress through the gen.

>>257520826
you can't really see the difference unless you have a 120 hz monitor which sucks
>>257520875
yea i plan on upgrading when the 880 finally gets announced. still keeping my PS4 tho

>>257520826

Can a WebM even display 120fps? Either way you need a 120 HZ monitor to actually see it.

>>257520890
TLOU Remastered
Wolfenstein
MGS GZ
Metro Redux

all run at 60 fps most of the time and at 1080p.

>>257521223
''most of the time'' yet alot of these games are advertised as ''rock solid 60fps''.

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>>257521223

>gey guiz we dun got 1080p @ 60fps in 2014!

>>257520890
>15 FPS virtual reality
The future is going to be silky smooth.

>>257521223
>60 fps most of the time
>most of time

That's an issue, idiot.

>>257510714
What do you want from consoles? Not even just that, what do you want from a game that has to support last-gen consoles and provide the exact same gameplay experience on all platforms? Seriously, I don't get it, you fucking idiots expect better than ideal conditions and endlessly complain when you don't get it. If you want higher framerate, get a fucking PC and play PC games. If you don't care, then get a console. Fuck off.

>>257520890
this is stupid, consoles are why those games get made in the first place, almost every AAA production sells better on them than on PC, you name it, AC, TB, CoD, FIFA, Battlefield, so it's no brainer they focus their resources to the best selling platform.

>>257521223
Wolfenstein has a dynamic resolution and so isn't always 1080p. And Metro required essentially losing tessellation and probably lowering other settings. Notice how half of your list are ports from last gen as well.

>>257521342
Whoa, where'd the goalposts go? They were just here a second ago.

>>257521493
>that has to support last-gen consoles and provide the exact same gameplay experience on all platforms?
It really shouldn't have to do that. That is a pretty shitty thing for a developer to do and one of the main reasons I am not giving a fuck about this game on any platform.

>>257521471
>>257521324
To be fair, "constant" 60 fps is rare. Even on PC, you can get sub 60 drops when there's heavy load of explosions and shit going on. The target should be 60 fps. But the occasional dip isn't a gamebreaker. Setting your game to 30 fps is though.

>>257510714
>bullet sponge enemies
so it's exactly like BL

>>257521552
''essentially losing tessellation'' just like TR, that other ''60fps'' game (that drops to 30 when moving the camera).

>>257510714
goddamn it looks exactly like halo, even the way the enemy moves is the same. im so glad i didnt buy xbone just for this. is there any reason to buy this at all?

>>257521678
I can make almost any game drop frames but with consoles i don't accept just walking into a heavy populated area to have huge framedrops.

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>>257521584

Wasn't even the guy you were talking to, I just think it's funny seeing gamers in 2014 bragging that their platform of choice can manage a standards from 2006

>>257521659
The game was being developed before the Xbone and PS4 were even a thing. It's a last-gen game ported to current-gen hardware.

>>257521679
Headshot have a huge modifier, guy playing is just shit.

The enemies with shields, mini-bosses and bosses are bullet sponges though.

>>257521471
Well Metro Redux, Wolfenstein and MGS Z are rock solid, TLOU gets to lower 50s on bloaters sections, but it is 60fps 99% of the time, keep moving those goalposts though.

>>257518586
>decade ago CoD was just coming out, Medal of Honor franchise was popular as fuck for several years prior, and in the 90s was the age of quick twitch fps like unreal tournament

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>>257511804
you probably had nobody to play with

>>257517634
Despite what many around here would have you believe, there's nothing shameful about spending money on a hobby you enjoy

>>257521818
I agree. On the case of TLoU PS4 port, the frame rate seems fairly consistent though. Enough to say it's a 60 fps game.

Though that's not really impressive either since it's just a PS3 port.

>>257521821
I'm not that original guy either, I just like fanning the flames.

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>>257510714
This makes me incredible sad for some some.

>>257521881
Not him. Goalposts were never moved. It either is 60fps or it isn't. You don't overlook when it isn't and say, "it doesn't matter, stop cherrypicking/nitpicking". This shit should be fucking standard, not excused when it doesn't work out right.

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>buying a console before CFW

>>257521881
Woah, a ton of games that look unimpressive as shit can get 60 fps! Shocking! The only game that looks actually good that you listed is Metro, and I would love to see the superior PC version run on a console.

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>>257521678

I get no drops if I turn off v-sync. For games that aren't crysis/metro/star citizen I sometimes hit the maximum fps that certain game engine will allow, and that's with a last-generation GPU.

Graphic options are cool.

>>257522045
reason* I'm so tired of the modern FPS/TPS games these days.

>>257511629
>looks fine
>bulletspoonges
>aim assist so heavy that even retards can hit shit
>enemies can't harm you at all

Right.
It looks "fine".

>>257522045
That a last-gen console game supported on last-gen hardware runs at 30FPS, or that the guy who recorded the footage is fucking terrible at aiming?

>>257522143
It sounds like someone didn't play the beta.

But it's cool, keep judging in ignorance. It never stopped anyone else on /v/.

>>257522086
Oh, so you're just an idiot.

>>257522143
Yes, that is "fine" by todays gamer on the go standards. They can be bothered with actually getting good or learning how to play. Make everything take lots of shots, make it so you don't die but feel like there is an actual thread with lots of blinking lights and flashing red blotches and you have yourself a success in the making.

>>257522143
>I don't know what bulletsponges are

>>257522086
PC Master Race here, fuck off. You people should just be taken out back and shot.

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>>257517634

>>257522276
>>257522370
Stupid people tend to lash out angrily when they are unable to defend themselves rationally.

>filmed on the playstation 3

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>>257522097
>unimpressive
that's subjective, they can look quite good, stop the hate.

>>257521881
Not those guys, but solid 30fps with no dips would be better than 60 with imo

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>>257522423
>I'll just troll them back, that'll show 'em!

>>257522086
>It either is 60fps or it isn't.
This is a retarded mentality and probably why some devs chooses 30 fps constant instead of superior 60 fps with some slight dips here and there.

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>>257511948

I... I'm not sure.

>>257520424
isnt this what previous gent should be?

>>257522487
Dude are you fucking retarded? Holy shit kill me, it is literally impossible for anyone here to ever agree on something.

>>257521830
So it should be running at 60-144fps on the PS4 and Xbox One then.

>>257522484
I've seen fallout 3 look more impressive than that screenshot.

>>257522487
no, it's not, i'd rather have 60 fps 90% of the time.

>>257522496
You should look it up if you believe that to be trolling son. You might accidentally learn something.

>>257522613
that's ok, anon, that's ok.

>>257522416
Shit, I wish I could just rent games.

Oh wait, I can, and do.

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>>257522690
And you might actually get laid if you took that stick out of your butt.

>>257522553
>taking a picture of your TV screen

What is this, the PS3/360 version or just retardation?

>>257510714

>30 fps
>progress

wait, are you serious?

>>257522580
I'm retarded for disliking the framerate changing in the middle of gameplay? That shit bugs me more than anything, but keep acting like a manchild on the internet, just throwing my two cents in

>>257512481

All valid except

>No exploration aloud

Exploration was the best bit about the beta, maps were big enough to find random shit without ever following the waypoints

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>>257522718

>>257522813
60 fps dipping to 50 fps is still a more responsive gameplay than 30 fps staying 30.

http://m.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/PS4_vs._Xbox_One_Native_Resolutions_and_Framerates

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>>257522723

My game list went from 80ish to 311 from only 2 of my friends family-game-sharing their libraries on steam.

>>257510714
this is why I only buy from PC focused devs and publisher

>>257522369
>empty magazine into enemy stomach
>he's still alive
>not bulletsponge

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>>257516974

>texture pop in
>a bug

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60fps, 30fps.......I just want more games

>>257523157
Maybe you should try to shoot at unarmored parts next time?

>>257516164
woah...

>>257523157
He hit the enemy with approx 16 out of 20 bullets then switched targets. If he was getting headshots it would be 1-2 bullets.

He's shit.

Shields or minibosses/bosses are bullet sponges, the regular enemies aren't, unless you're total trash.

>>257522986
Some of these are wrong. Some are games that aren't even out.

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>>257517550
It's an APU and it's under-clocked like a motherfucker to keep temps low.

>>257518586

a decade ago we had stable 60 fps on every pc game.

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Behold the raw fortitude of consoles.

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in game character model

>Revengance run at an average 60 FPS
>"The textures are horrible in this game!"
>This game doesn't actually dip below 30 unlike most games that advertise pretty (for console) graphics
>"Only 30 FPS?"

???

>>257523242

>sub-60 fps
>games

You can't pick both.

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>>257523242
Congratulations. With consoles, you're getting neither.

>>257523412
85 actually.
We've used CRT monitors with higher refresh rate.

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>>257523443

>>257523479
An entire thread of total stupidity, and yet you still manage to post the stupidest thing in it.

Congratulations.

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>>257522892
LOL

>>257513436
>people are going to shitpost this till the end of time without even giving why its bad except with more shitposting

>>257523576
This is only on PS4 version though.

>>257523475
if only there was some way of having good textures and 60fps anon

>>257523576
>skip
>in game

nice try idiot!

>>257523475
>>"The textures are horrible in this game!"
No one actually said that about Revengeance. Also, I really regret not buying that game on a Steam sale already.

>>257518586
I recall FFX running at 60fps being a huge deal

>>257523591

>M...MUH MOVIES ARE GAMES TOO!! ;_;

You are cancer.

>>257523530

i know. hell, if i remember correct doom1 ran at 60 fps if your hardware did it.

>>257511103
>Probably some streaming casual shit.
Butt computing.

>>257523707
get it, seriously its platinum gameplay with kojima retardation its brilliant

>>257523704
It's a cutscene but it's real time. Unless he actually meant while playing the game, which wouldn't make sense given the angle his screenshot is from.

>>257523707
It was a complaint along the same lines of people bitching about DaS 1's "artificial difficulty" when it hit PC

>>257523412
not if your pc was shit, stop it,

>>257510714
Looks great. To bad PC will never get it.

>>257523840
I already beat it on PS3 but want to acquire it cheap for PC this time around. Seems like I can't find Russian key sellers either. Region-locked?

damn that looks good

>>257523704
>>257523443
>special photomode
>ingame

Also on the PC cutscenes are actually rendered in realtime.

>>257523862
cutscene models have a higher LOD, TLOU is in game.

>>257523920
I'd rather have something more worthy on PC, than a another generic shooter.

Something that has love put into it like MGSV.

>>257523862
There's a photo mode in TLOU that allows you to change the camera angle, so yeah it's while actually playing the game.

Can modern PCs do that super hi-res photorealism yet or nah? I saw like, that one DX demo or whatever with the bookshelf and stuff, I think.

>>257510714

stable 30fps with those graphics is a huge achievement for a consoles

lol >consoles

>>257523978
>CUTSCENE MODEL /= GAME PLAY MODELS

pls, stop being stupid.

>>257511103
>PC might pick up the scraps however


>Killing Floor 2
>Witcher 3
>Hotline Miami
>Hitman 5
>Tekken 7
>Rise of the Incarnates
>Batman AK
>Skullgirls
>Mortal Kombat X

As long as these kinds of 'scraps' continue to exist, I don't mind TLOU and Sunset Overdrive games not existing.

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Show me one PC game with a better lighting engine than TLoU, protip: you cant.

>>257523479
it's like you don't know what a video game is anymore. It was never a framerate contest and it never will be so long as ultra-high standards have a name.
>60fps!
>4K resolution!
>consoles never existed!
shit's hard to quit, but I know you can do it.

>>257523491
>getting one console
life is too short. no one has money anymore to put a damn game out

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>>257523980
>>257524086
Well MP3 doesn't have some kind of fancy bullshot mode to get in close to the character. I have a few shots kind of close though.

>>257524236
I'm a little upset that you mentioned Batman.

I'm a lot upset that you mentioned Killing Floor 2.

I'm extremely fucking pissed off that your stupid cock sucking retarded fuck ass mentioned Hitman.

>60 fps and 1080+p
Ideal
>30 fps and 1080+p
playable for most genres
>sub 1080p on console/pc that was made in 2014 or later by a company of more than two people
bad, but usually playable
>the last situation in 30fps or lower
you fucked up
>indie/nonprofit game does any of this
any of it is a little more excusable due to lower funds, though the devs should always try to get 60fps
>old console sub60fps or sub1080p
playable, games were built around their limitations in most cases.

But always remember
everything else>art style>graphics

>>257524261
Metro: LL

>>257524261
>baked lighting
Metro and Stalker both beat it.

>>257522416
Even with a CPU and GPU upgrade it ends up costing less.

>>257524261
reminds me of Dead Space 2's preschool area

>>257523901

you do know that you have settings and menus? you could allways alt you graphics so you had more performance. also for most games there was no beast needed.

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>>257524450

>I was just going to post a screenshot of that area

>>257524236
all those are coming to consoles too, with a more active community to boot too, I bet those fighting games will be dead by the month and a half mark on PC. LOL.

>>257524362
>not putting graphics in first place

Stick to playing tetris, faggot.

>>257524236
Aslong as i have muh party based RPG's like Divinity and the likes coming, i dont really want anything more, except MGSV. Thats the only game i can see myself buying from the console market.

I mean everything else are pretty much a last gen reskins with still poor texture upgrades.

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>>257515683

It is truly one of the best feels.

>>257524560
neo-/v/ strikes again

>>257524337
>those suit textures
MP3 looked damn good. Definitely better than TLoU for PS4.

>>257524598
I feel you about MGSV. I'm not buying a PS4 just for one game though. Especially when I can play and beat it on PS3 and then just wait out a PC port.

>>257510714
Water liquid 30fps.