CHOOSE A STAGE LIKE RUMBLE FALLS AND BLAST MYSELF DOWN AT THE BRIDGE WITH PK THUNDER AND RIDE ACROSS IT, BTFOING ANYTHING I HIT
THEN I TRAP SOMEONE IN PK FIRE, GRAB THEM, DTHROW THEM AND THEN JUMP AT THEM AND BAIR THEM
WORKS LIKE A CHARM
OH DON'T FORGET TO USE THE MAGNET FOR SUPER FUN FLOATY GIMMICKS IN THE AIR
>CHOOSE A STAGE LIKE RUMBLE FALLS AND BLAST MYSELF DOWN AT THE BRIDGE WITH PK THUNDER AND RIDE ACROSS IT, BTFOING ANYTHING I HIT
>mfw I can count the number of times I've played a match to completion on rumble falls in one hand so I have no idea what the fuck this guy is talking about
>mfw I have no face
No, see. On Rumble Falls they got this bridge in the middle of the stage. It's slightly curved so if I launch myself downwards at it with PK Thunder, I'll blast down at it and ride the curve. You sort of ride any platform with it, but it's like a halfpipe for PK Thunder and it's so satisfying to spam it like crazy while launching around like a madman every now and then as a way to mix up your strategies.
>being so bad at both Melee and Brawl you have to play the easy mode combination that was designed by people who were never good at either game
>said game is still dominated by Melee and Brawl players
Frauds, the whole lot of you.
>Playing as anyone BUT Robert Downey Jr.
It's like you don't even know how to play the game
>Brawl is LITERALLY better than Project M
The delusion is real. Listen anon I was like you a long time ago. I hated PM just because of everyone wouldn't shut up about it. I checked it out and actually like the changes for my mains and I suggested to my friends and now we all love PM since it prolonged the life of brawl and made it fun again.
>Those Samus buffs
My dick was not ready the firstime I played PM with my bros.
Project M has a lot of cool changes and a lot of stupid as shit ones but by far the most baffling to me is the decision to change King Dedede's name, images and announcer call to just "Dedede"
What on Earth could this possibly accomplish? I don't think there's a single instance of him being referred to as just "Dedede" without the King title in any of the Kirby games. I just don't understand
This is what I don't get about FEfags. I don't see a single Pokemon fan complaining about Jigglypuff. She's a shit Pokemon, sure, but it's fucking Smash Bros, who cares about that? Roy may be a shit lord, but who cares? It's fucking Smash Bros, not Fire Emblem.
>FEfags derailing another decent Melee/PM threads bitching about Roy
This should honestly be expected at this point.
Besides the fact that HungryBox and Mew2King both agree it's awful? I'll explain a little bit.
The MAIN problem with Project M is the balancing. It's not that one character or the other is "overpowered" but rather that every character is viable. That might not sound like a bad thing but as someone who thinks project m is a good game I can understand why you won't see why. Even though they can change the power/speed/whatever of a character, some characters will still take more technical skill than others. So why would I play Fox/Falco when I could play Pit and have all the same power but now have to do so little to execute. Now Falco for example is still a glass cannon but Pit is just as strong but has MUCH better recovery. PMBR has no idea how to neutralize pros with cons. That's a small part of it.
Jigglypuff is viable and is cool and relevant
Roy is in the game literally just to promote one of the worst FE games. People only like him because he's in Smash
Play Binding Blade and then try pretending he's a badass fire sword dude.
Ah, fuck. He's so fast paced and he's got some crazy combos going on. I'm that nessrumblefallsbridgethunderfag and hoh fuck is it fun.
Great! Also remember to pause here and there and maybe launch a PK Thunder or two at your foe, or maybe even a PK Flash if you can. If you focus on hanging around middle of a stage and use those attacks you feel like some sort of reactor with all of those crazy attacks going out. Then when people get to close, jump at 'em while facing away from 'em and use that bair. Seriously focus on that bair or even try to get used to his various attacks as they all come in handy.
Also you can use his PSI Magnet attack to hover in the air for some extra shenanigans. Say if your foe is jumping at you while you're in the air or trying to juggle you lots, you can use it to be a little tricky if you really need. Maybe right above their range as they get a Smash attack in and then land right when they're finished with their attack and beat em with a move that you feel that fits the situation. Oh, also jump up in the air to the side of the stage and launch yourself back at it with a PK Thunder as your foe starts approaching you when you feel. Especially in Rumble Falls, but only when you got that feel that it's gonna be a good move to do. And while I'm at it here's another tip, your PK Fire not only makes it extremely hard for foes to move, but also racks up damage extremely well. You can shoot another blast of it at the foe to rack up more damage at the cost of them escaping it's grasp, or launch or self at them with that PK Thunder attack I've been talking about. Heck even use a quick PK Flash to finish them off or do a grab to mess with them, or even use that bair I mentioned earlier.
I'm kind of an Earthboundfag so I decided to main Ness a while back. Anyways, good luck with him and I hope you have fun with his psychic shenanigans and various tactics he can pull off. He's a real blast to play once you get ahold of him.
I'm gonna need a source on Hbox and M2K saying it's horrible.
They seem to be enjoying themselves a whole lot when they play it.
As for balance they're working on it in the next patch.
Didn't you see the dev blog?
Jiggs and Roy were both poor characters, but at least Jiggs had a unique moveset despite being based off Kirby. Roy was an advertisement, he was necessary to beat the game and had to be brought on every map, he was never good like Jiggs was in Melee, and his entire fanbase comes from Smash.
Roy was only a bad character if you give a shit about Fire Emblem so much. If you play the game in the perspective of a Smash fan (and get through all the other bullshit, honestly playing FE is a chore. I suggest using GameShark), it's cool as fuck to see him in another game
I like you.
I don't really have a Brawl "Main" but my nephews/younger cousins/casuals really like it so I'll play it with them. It's fun.
One thing we do is play 99 lives, Very High Bom-Bombs with 300 percent life. It's
Brawl is shit competitively though
No, but changing him from the way he is now because Zelda fans are crying about how "not based off of anything" he is is stupid. It's a Smash game, not a fucking Zelda game. If they change him, they better fucking give his moveset to someone else.
I'm not even a Ganondorf main, but this seems kind of obvious.
Ness and Captain Falcon both got their first appearance on the SNES. Earthbound for Ness and F-Zero for Captain Falcon, respectively. For some reason they don't use a lot of the attacks they use in Smash in their actual games though, but I guess it makes sense because Captain Falcon could be a great fighter when he's not racing, and Ness could've learned lots after Earthbound when he finally got into Smash. I don't care if you're baiting or not, because the chance that you're an actual person who's gonna be able to experience those games for the first time is pretty awesome. Just check 'em out on an emulator real quick. F-Zero is a really fast-paced racing game and Earthbound is an extremely quirky and lighthearted RPG with it's own kind of silly going on. I hope you have fun with them if you decide to check them out, as I really enjoyed them.
LOOK HOW FUCKING COOL HE LOOKS
>autistic people seriously have to insult Project M whenever it's mentioned
I mean I get hating people who obsess and say Project M is objectively the best, but it's not bad. It's pretty much independent from Melee or Brawl.
It's a game of RNG and tons of dialogue. Honestly, I'd prefer if Roy got his own game much like Smash. Something that required skill because FE requires none. Maybe a side scrolling beat em up or platformer.
Roy is fucking great
Eh, I guess people are gonna do what they want whatsoever. The best we can do is just ignore them and have fun discussing what we like, or even ask them why they don't like it and even chat with them about the things they like. You'd be surprised how nice the shitposter-type can be sometimes once you get on their good-side.
setting up Project M for netplay on Dolphin takes less than ten minutes if you already have a Brawl .iso, and it runs like a dream
No excuses, anon. Don't you want to play with /v/?
Have you ever played Binding Blade? Honestly.
Roy has zero fucking personality. He makes Chrom look like Henry. Roy is a fucking piece of wood
No. I don't care about him because A: He's in a shit game B: He's a shit lord and C: No personality.
He could be top tier and I still want Hector in over him.
Jigglypuff was her own character. Roy was just slow Marth. Removing him doesn't mean much, especially when you have Ike, who fits the niche without being a clone. Not to mention, he's nothing special compared to all the other lords.
That's hardly the thing M2K has been addressing about it. He's been calling out gimmicks more and the way the devs have such a heavy hand nerfing things that people play with successfully.
Yes I did.
You can't expect a game thats still in development to not recieve balance patches from time to time.
As for his point on developing the metagame the PM devs have mentioned that they are trying to promote that kind of thing.
>carpool with several people to Raleigh, NC for smash
>M2K asks to ride
>we have room for 1 more, so we all agree
>stinkiest motherfucker I have ever met
>stop at a gas station for gas, snacks, bathrooms, etc
>WE FUCKING LOSE M2K AT THE GAS STATION
>he randomly shows up at the car 10 minutes later
>bought multiple air fresheners at gas station
>car still smells like M2K's ass
>After tournament go back home
>It's late when we arrive and he asks to stay the night and catch a bus home the next day
>reluctantly agree because I'm just fucking tired and want to sleep
>give him an air mattress and a blanket
>He flops down and in an almost cartoony vice says "IIIII'M HUNGRY!"
>give him some orange juice and pop tarts and try to go to bed
>I'm half asleep and he asks what the password to my laptop is
>tell him because I'm an idiot
>Wake up next morning
>M2K is completely underneath the blanket with my laptop
>can tell he's jerking off
This is person whose opinion you value, anon
>tfw used to be stubborn faggot who refused to believe Project M could be good
>tfw used to believe the shitposts about bugs and shitty game design
>tfw used to shitpost in Project M threads telling people to fuck off with their shitty mod
>tfw finally caved and installed it
>tfw it's the best shit ever
I regret not seeing the light sooner.
Don't be like me, anon. If you haven't, go get PM now. It's fantastic.
Yes, we know M2K is legitimately autistic. Not even the anon who brought up M2K but that doesn't make his opinions on Smash less valid.
I deny your story, but it is plausible.
>same guy every thread
>I reply every thread
>I'll probably get the same response I always get
>Project M is an improvement of Melee
Fixed that for you.
>some people just pick the character that's the strongest instead of picking their favorite character from their favorite series that they grew up with
>they will never know the feel of starting out on Smash 64 with your childhood hero by your side and moving on through the games as time goes by, slowly becoming better as you master your character through the series
>they will never know how it feels to look at your character and take in all of those memories again from a glance
people don't deserve to miss out on this sort of feel
I need an actual opinion here. No
W/e, I just want an actual opinion.
So, I read up on wii modding once. Seemed fairly air tight and simple save for a warning I constantly saw that was along the lines of "btw your wii has a 50/50 chance of going fucking nuclear and dieing so good luck". Obviously don't want to bother with that shit since we only got the one wii and are tight on cash.
tl;dr: Is project M fun. Like, just how much does it change to really warrant the mod? I want to play Project M since it does seem fun, and I wanna play mewtwo again, but I don't want to run the risk of my wii going kaput.
...Anyone gonna try out my Ness tricks or was I just talking to the wall?
>Mfw getting PM a few days ago
>Mfw it's the apex of Super Smash Brothers
>Mfw those who disagree either refuse to play it or are literally autistic
You don't even need to mod your wii for Project M just get a 2 gig SD card.
It's worth it and basically makes Brawl a new game.
Make sure you actually learn how to play it though or you won't be able to appreciate the changes.
I don't think it's improvement either.
Doesn't stop some people thinking that it is. That's why you get people in these threads who don't understand why people still play Melee. There are some regions where Melee's been almost phazed out entirely.
Frauds love their gimmicky ez mode baby shit.
I also think because it's not a "Nintendo Official" game it makes it cool to like and play vs playing something made by Nintendo, especially for people who don't like Nintendo but own Wii's/PCs
But I'm doing that, based retard. The other game I'm playing is Project M.
literally Melee Falcon with a better side special
literally Melee Ganon but better
1. your Wii will not explode, moron
2. personally it's my GOTY. but you need friends to play with
After years of trying to git gud at this, a friend convinced to lay project M. I've always played Street Fighter and would main brawlers like Urien and Guile.
Cpt. Falcon was too speedy but then I laid my hands on Ganondorf and everything changed. I started winning and it felt fucking good to chokeslam cocksuckers all over the map.
By no stretch am I good. I'm still a long way from learning the advanced techniques but man did Project M re-ignite my fire to learn a new fighting game.
Yo, P:M Ganon is so much better than melee Ganon it's crazy awesome. An actually useful up tilt, the flame choke, quake boxes on the down B, as well as not as bad recovery time (actual frame advantage!) Less jumpsquat and landing lag time. Shit's cash.
>Project M is ez mode for frauds!!1
literally one extra frame on short hop = fraud mode?
and if you're talking about the imbalance in the game (which is admittedly present) it's not like it's worse than the imbalance in Melee. The biggest difference is that PM will be getting more balanced over time with ongoing patches. Fox is still the best character and m2k and Armada always win anyway.
>muh pit autocombos, muh sanic,
Get on my level son.
Diddy's recovery will likely be nerfed for 3.5.
I don't know what will happen to Mewtwo, though. He just seems like a popular pick.
I'm still gonna play Olimar in tourneys, since people underestimate what he's capable of.
/v/, please help me
My brother picks Ike every fucking game and he annihilates my anus. He keeps fucking killing me with his slide-across-the-stage-and-grab-you bullshit. How dl I stop this from habbening?
I play Fox and Ganondorf
Ganondorf all day nigga
please give him a new moveset, sakurai
>>entering the world of modding Smash for the first time
Brawl has a lot of great music, but it also has a bunch of shitty garbage that I would rather replace ASAP.
What music have you moddes in, /v/?
would work if he didn't jump out of it and fair me in the face half the time
thanks, I know what a fucking wavedash is, but Ike can cancel his sideB that skates forward at a million miles per hour into a jump, grab, or upsmash
>mfw Uthrowing a spacie at ~90%
there is literally nothing you can do to avoid getting fair'd or bair'd at this point, faggot, just put the controller down
which is when I fake your ass out and slam you in the teeth with an upsmash as I glide past you
Ike is unbeatable in the neutral
And no he can't cancel into Grab or Upsmash. That happens because he is jumping and pressing grab/usmash within the teensy frame window before he jumps.
Your brother is 10/10 techskill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLBTIUzPpEQ&index=1&list=PLs7d4DToZ-ouEWMLjqM9SJhNL-h1AyHN5 I put those in for my brawl so far, used to have a lot more but my friend.... he managed to ruin my project M so I just started from scratch recently.
I don't think Ike has any reliable answers to shield pressure so you should be able to just rush him down
If you give him room to side b then of course he has 10 different ways to mix yo up so the simple answer is to not let him do it in the first place
I really go into PM, and I went to my first local tournament last month. I got bodied, and I've improved immensely. I'm ready to come back this month to do better.
Well, that sounds about right then. I hear the advice most of them give around the area is to play Diddy. I really gotta up my item game if I want to beat them, I'm kinda worried since I don't get the chance to play with other people very often.
Yeah your best bet to beat Diddy is to know how to play Diddy because then you'll be able to deal with his banana shenanigans. Whereabouts do you live? I'm sure there are likely people around there you can practice with before you actually go to a tournament for the first time.
Or you can just netplay.
Bair hits behind him unless it has an insane hitbox that I don't know about. If you're hitting someone in front of you with a bair then your opponent has shitty spacing
As for dsmash, I just tested it in Melee, and you can't Jump-cancel a downsmash out of a shield, or if you can, it requires frame-perfect inputs. Maybe it's different in project M though i'm not sure. But regardless, if you're dropping your shield and downsmashing, that's at least 20 frames until your dsmash comes out
Yeah Southern Virginia is pretty Melee heavy. Maryland is more PM dominant, but don't drive two hours to go to fucking Xanada, that shit ain't worth it.
Maybe try North Carolina?
that guy is just having fun hyping up his favorite character.
the Bair does have a small hitbox to the front, but it's miniscule. it hardly reaches further than Ike's head and it's definitely not about to stop a nair.
And you're right about dsmash.
I'm a bit surprised, I didn't expect it to be that close. Fredericksburg is a bit closer still, but I don't remember the last time I went there.
About an hour or so from what it says. I might need to check the listings more often since I normally don't see that area pop up.
I'll play any of these, but I recently picked up Toon Link because of that SHFFL
I wish I could go to a tournament, but I don't know where any tourneys in Houston are
That's the Houston thread on Smashboards where you can ask I guess. No idea how active Houston's scene is on Smashboards. Tournaments would be listed in the tournaments part of the site under Southwest region.
But Facebook is in all likelihood your best bet because like someone mentioned earlier most communication between players is done on that now. There's probably a Houston Smash or a Houston Project Melee group.
Well.. she's a shortstack based on what this artist drew..
well, that's pretty pathetic, but luckily for you, you can leave torrents on overnight and pause the download when you need to use the Internet again. so go download it anyway
Project M is basically Melee with beyter graphics, more stages and items and characters, and every character really fucking good and fun to play. Many characters have unique mechanics added to learn, and the gameplay combines techniques from both Melee and Brawl into a super fast and exciting package.
It's a beautiful game, and what Brawl should have been on release if Sakurai gave a fuck.
>tfw can't beat roommate's Falco
what the fuck am I supposed to do when he dairs me when I'm trying to recover
Good thread guys, except for this shit