> A pair of hackers from the UK have allegedly detected a few unused cup icons in Mario Kart 8. At this time, we cannot confirm their validity.
>At this time, we cannot confirm their validity.
Not even fucking worth thinking about.
>My face when getting the Blue Shell Crazy Eight
Nintendo's "season pass" was completely different from the others. The season passes hated around here is the "prepay for unknown dlc", whereas the only Nintendo one I'm aware of was the Mario Golf one, which was just a DLC pack.
And nobody who isn't retarded hates DLC on general principle. We've had DLC in arena shooters and RTS games since the mid 90s and nobody hated it then.
> pay2win DLC
> Supporting the online aspect of their games
You should be thankful they patched the lobby crashing exploits that have surfaced so far. Generally they only patch game breaking issues.
>Nintendo's "season pass" was completely different from the others.
How? You pay for DLC before it actually comes out. It's the very definition of a "season pass."
Game ROM's always have unused shit. Haven't you ever been to TCRF?
>fake character DLC leaks
>fake battle mode DLC leaks
>fake cup DLC leaks
I want to get off Mario Kart 8s fake ride
I honestly love the detail in the MK8 tracks, I highly doubt we will be getting new retro tracks in MK8, but I firmly believe if we get retro tracks they will be retro tracks from previous games redone. So they would be retro retro tracks
So the same excuse nintendodler do as always.
>It's not bad if Nintendo does it!
Seriously I'm fucking tired of you retards and your fucking double standards, at least admit is bad.
Its one of their most iconic franchises. Nintendo has gotten lazy with their IP licensing to other devs. Mistery Dungeon for 3DS was so bad and full of terrible design choices it was borderline shovelware and the Mario Tennis/Golf games were so uninspired they were forgotten a week after launch. Now it feels like a gamble when you buy a game that isn't made by Nintendo
>Turning "this is fundamentally different" into "it's okay because of the company"
>Completely ignoring the entirety of what I said
I see you're just going to be a cunt instead of having a reasonable discussion.
>Fire Emblem character DLC
>Hyrule Warriors store-exclusive preorder DLC
>Mario Kart 8 product placement DLC
>Smash Bros physical DLC
Actually, Mario Golf has pay2win DLC: buying all of it gives you Gold Mario, which is Mario with an exclusive Gold Flower item that gives you coins based on how far your shot goes. Coins are used to unlock equipment for your Mii, which give you better stats.
Buying the DLC gives you an exclusive means of grinding coins faster, which gives you better stats faster, which lets you do better faster particularly when it comes to upgrading your character's drive distance.
The $15 Mario Golf 64 course DLC I can overlook because that's pretty cool, but it was a season pass before they were even out that included an exclusive money making character, which goes a little beyond what should be acceptable.
I didn't know that. I haven't bought the game yet, because I never dug golf. It just didn't seem like a bad deal to me.
That's pretty cool. I'd totally be cool with more Mario Kart 8 retro courses as DLC, if it was that reasonably priced.
>/v/ only hates unknown DLC.
And who is the cunt ignoring the truth? Every paid DLC is fucking hated, don't try to lie saying only some DLC is hated so it works for your "reasonable discussion".
It's almost like Nintendo would have happily done DLC if only the Wii was capable.
Oh wait, that's true and is blatantly obvious by the fact they've happily used DLC, subscription fees and season passes since their first platform that supported them came out.
If so that's some aggressive fucking traffic shaping.
I'm getting a 640Kb/s connection to YouTube. It's unacceptable.
>man this is so sad, better watch clips about him so I can milk his death for likes
>holy fuck, this guys is so unfunny it hurts to watch
>good thing I didn't take a pic of me crying like a planned to.
>Every paid DLC is fucking hated
This has literally never been the case. It wasn't the case when DLC existed as "expansions" in the 90s and early 00s, and it's not true now.
/v/ didn't even start feeling this way until a few years ago. It's unreasonable.
Oh wait, of course nintendo DLCs aren't hated right? Because they are good DLCs, right?.
What's next? Now are you going to tell me that the Wii U is more powerful than any console and PC ever created and we should pay 1000$ for it?
Mystery Dungeon seems to be some attempt by Nintendo to reign in the series like they did with Sticker Star since the Mystery Dungeon games were...odd to say the least.
I wish they';d just let companies do their own thing.
>DLC are the same as Expansions.
If you guys would be more retarded your mother would think she aborted instead of giving birth.
You can download expansion packs too.
What's the difference between a well-implemented expansion to a game released as "DLC" and an expansion pack that is downloaded and installed?
Are you really going to claim that you only hate DLC because you dislike downloading things?
I think that's a reasonable complaint. It would be one thing if buying them all gave you some other incentive, like a plushie or something, but exclusive in-game assets based on mode of purchase is a real cancer. I'd think it would be entirely reasonable if you could get gold Mario in some other way as an in-game unlockable.
>You can download expansion packs too.
And for your info, usually expansion packs included content that changed the base game or added almost as much content as the half of the original game.
And you had to pay...what, 30-40$?
Are you telling me that a 15-20$ DLC that adds an extra character or costumes or a map is the same fucking thing?
>All this arguing over DLC, when this isn't even proven to be DLC or beta content
>in reality, it's just another shitty photoshop made by fans to rile up the fanbase
Again, you're strawmanning hard.
No I'm not, but I'm arguing that a $30 expansion that adds about 30% of content to the game (as with Diablo II) is as passable as $10 DLC that adds 10% of content to the game.
I'm not going to continue this discussion with me if you're only talking in hyperbole.
It's not fucking DLC, it's a computer character of a character already in the game.
>MK8 Product Placement
It's FREE and the update has way more to it than the cars.
He's just calling you a retard because apparently you were born in 2004 and can't grasp the difference between downloadable content today and expansion packs you couldn't possibly download with dial up in 1998.
And I'm calling him (and now you) a retard because he somehow thinks that just being downloaded is what makes it bad.
How the fuck are you even implying that the same thing for the same price is fundamentally bad just because you download it instead of buying a disc at a store?
>>Fire Emblem character DLC
I have nothing to say about this. I've never played FE but I heard the DLC is pretty bad.
>>Hyrule Warriors store-exclusive preorder DLC
Not developed by Nintendo, nor published by them in Japan.
>>Mario Kart 8 product placement DLC
We're you also upset with product placement in Pikmin?
>>Smash Bros physical DLC
There is literally no other way for that feature to work without some sort of physical object.
They're functionally the same. They both add content to the base game.
The difference is the method in which they are implemented and the disparity in content of expansions today and the expansions of yesteryear.
>just being downloaded is what makes it bad.
Not him, but what makes it bad is the nature of its DRM, the fact that the content is licensed rather than sold, is non-transferable, the user isn't protected by first-sale, etc.
That's what makes it automatically bad.
And I'm saying that you're a retard for thinking that it can't.
It's supplemental content, it's the same binary data. You might as well be arguing that buying a book online to be shipped to you can't be directly compared to buying it at the store, and somehow changes what book it is.
You're focusing on the route of administration, and not on the content at all.
Is this another one of those things where people confuse free DLC for overpriced day one and constant DLC where you pay $20 for a single level and retards don't understand that the reason DLC is bad in most cases is because of how frequent and overpriced it is for what it adds and don't understand that DLC is fine as long as it's not day one and adds a reasonable amount of content in the same way an expansion pack did back some years ago?
>the fact that the content is licensed rather than sold, is non-transferable, the user isn't protected by first-sale, etc.
This is just 3 different ways of saying "I can't sell it". I'm assuming "etc" is more ways which you haven't figured out how to verbalize yet
Should you really have the right to sell someone else's software?
You're mad and there's no reason for you to be mad.
I mean, I try not to say this, but I'm not spoonfeeding you. Look it up yourself, it's a free update. Just google Mario Kart 8 free update.
>the nature of its DRM
That's an issue with the base game, not DLC. DRM has been around forever. Back in the day that's what CD Keys were. In the 80s it was a code in the manual.
>the fact that the content is licensed rather than sold
That's literally always been the case. In the 90s you didn't ever actually buy a game, you bought a copy of the game. You bought a license to play the game. Software is always licensed, and never sold. Software proprietorship has been this way since the 70s.
That loops back to the DRM argument. It's shitty for sure, but it's again a product of the time, not route of administration. There's nothing about downloading vs optical media that fundamentally changes this.
>the user isn't protected by first-sale
Depends on your country. Germany protects this.
Of course the idea here is they might have cut the content beforehand, intending to sell the initial portion of the game for sixty bucks, then ask for another twenty later on to bilk extra revenue from their customers
>Back in the day that's what CD Keys were. In the 80s it was a code in the manual.
Those are not DRM.
>you didn't ever actually buy [the copyright to a game and its content], you bought a copy of the game
> You bought a license to play the game.
>Software is always licensed, and never sold.
Based first sale lets me ignore retarded publishers and their brown-nosing lackeys like yourself.
>There's nothing about downloading vs optical media that fundamentally changes this.
Other than the fact that I've purchased it in a contract of sale, I actually retain my rights as a consumer, and can freely transfer my copy as I see fit? Yeah, nothing at all.
>Germany protects this.
No it doesn't. The law, at a glance, appears to forbid it, but in reality does nothing.
I'm actually taken aback.
What an over-the-top reaction.
Are you guys for real? You actually fucking think these are legit?
Every cup is a goddamn item in the game. Before you start with "BUT BOO IN DS AND SPRITES AS A MINIGGERGAME" - no. Get the fuck out. You don't go from mushroom, flower, star, to goddamn ghost. These guys got greedy, better chance of Ridley in smash than this being real
>There is literally no other way for that feature to work without some sort of physical object.
It could have been built into the 3DS version as extra data, and you could use it on friends' Wii U consoles by connecting your data with them.
>Blue shell cup
I suspect that this will just be courses that aim to murder you(Chain chomps, Thwomps, Piranha Plants, Exploding Snowmen) with every item block being a frantic block with blue shells being 90% chance in first
>They're as DRM as physical DRM gets.
So what you're trying to say is that the acronym "DRM" is useless because idiots like you retroactively apply it to every single instance of copy protection regardless of how it functions, making the name vague and meaningless?
Well, I guess I agree.
CD keys are DRM, and have always been labeled as such. They are a way to try to control and manage digital content. I hate DRM as much as every sane consumer, but don't try to claim CD keys aren't DRM.
> Other than the fact that I've purchased it in a contract of sale, I actually retain my rights as a consumer, and can freely transfer my copy as I see fit? Yeah, nothing at all.
Again, you're conflating. It's the same binary data. The DRM is as easily administered via physical media as it is via downloadable means. Downloading is not DRM. Optical media does not guarantee a freedom from DRM. They are literally nothing more than two different methods of shipping sequences of bits from one place to another.
> No it doesn't. The law, at a glance, appears to forbid it, but in reality does nothing.
Check with Steam. They actually offer refunds as a legal requirement in Germany.
>What is the Special Cup?
>immediately attacked from all sides with misinformation, attempts to rewrite history, and excuses for and attempts to improve the image of DRM
/v/ - Video Game Publisher Apologists
>Super Mario Kart, 64, Super Circuit, Double Dash, DS, Wii
>Get proven wrong
Nobody here likes DRM, you idiot.
If you claim manslaughter is murder, and I correct you, it doesn't mean I like manslaughter nor murder.
You are the king of conflation.
>You don't go from mushroom, flower, star, to goddamn ghost.
Wanna try that again fagget
>Not developed by Nintendo, nor published by them in Japan.
Nintendo own the damn franchise they need to aprove this kind of shit,koei sure is developing the gamee but with the consent of nintendo,atleast try to think before putting stuff like that
Based Mr Bean and Chadderz strike again
support em by playing their custom track pack
MKWii is alive and well!
>MK8 will have 300cc in your lifetime
It's not like DLC is a bad thing. DLC was never the issue, the issue is poor implementation of DLC. NSLU for example, is great use of DLC. And games like Animal Crossing and Mario Kart 8 are getting free DLC.
>i care about one guy who did movies
>i dont care about israel commiting war crimes and using white phosphorus to melt peoples skin off
Motherfuckers need to make a Rainbow Cup, and all of the fucking tracks are Rainbow Roads from the previous games. Thoughts /v/?
might as well ask
I don't know much about the wii u but I wanna get it + martio k8 for my brother
how does it work controllers-wise? which ones can I use and which one can't I?
how many extras would I have to buy if I wanna play as 4?
So what potential character DLCs would you like to see for MK8? I'd personally love to see pic related.
Pikmin is set in a post-apocalyptic Earth. Mario Kart is set in a completely different universe. Product placement isn't that bad as long as it makes sense and fits well with the setting. The Mercedes DLC does neither of them.
Ninja is like Black Mage in that he's more covered up and generic looking, befitting for a nameless member of a generic job class.
The opposite is true for the White Mage because she's female. They even took extra care to exposed as much of her legs and head and possible. Like goddamn, those legs. Definitely a wise decision.
You know it wouldn't be so bad if it was Fiat instead of Mercedes
>implying I don't
Fiat just works since it's Italian
But you did still know what you were getting beforehand. All the DLC courses were remakes of N64 courses, and they told you what level was in what pack, and what bonus characters you'd be getting when they became available.
It's slightly different than "Hey we're making DLC and if you want all of it now give us $30 extra for this shit you don't even know if you'll want"
You don't understand why Mercedes-Benz was the best choice. I'll help you a little, you got:
Japanese game maker
It's obvious what Nintendo is doing, could
Mozart still be alive?
You could only recruit the other starter pokemon if you bought DLC dungeons that had the other starter pokemon in them. Also DLC dungeons with strong as shit enemies that are all sleeping, so you can take them out easily with ranged attacks and get levels stupid fast.
But the beauty of it is, Its the epitome of optional.
If someone is a casual and wants to get all the characters for no effort then they get penalized by having to spend money. If you actually go through the game as intended youre rewarded with getting things yourself. Everyone wins, the only reason to argue this is if you cant stand the idea of someone enjoying something differently