All you really need is the desire to (because it keeps you drawing), and an understanding of basic anatomy and perspective. It doesn't happen overnight, so that's where the love for drawing comes in.
Yeah, and I'm on this one right now.
You see, "drawing" is simply not as easy as say, learning a language. You just don't go one day and say "holy fuck, I'm going to become an artist today!". Same goes for music.
People are born with talent. You could study years and years at something, but watch that one fucker who hasn't studied shit but has "talent" blow you away.
I kinda rushed it to show a girl. Looking back. I should have spent more time on it.
There is such a thing as natural talent. Though people think talent is a magical skill that makes you better at it for no reason. Talent is just the ability to git gud at something significantly faster than others.
>There is no "natural talent".
That's not true, some people draw for 1 year and become just as good as someone who has drawn for 5, being able to learn things more efficiently than others/normal is because of innate talent.
It is true that "anyone can learn to draw and be good", but it's also true that some people have a talent/forte for it.
Nobody is born with some innate ability to draw, but some people's brains work in a way that is more suited to drawing. For someone, drawing from life might be easy because of the way they process what they see. For someone else, it might be impossible because they're too hung up on small areas or using symbols rather than what they see.
>tfw been waiting 2 weeks for my new drawing tablet to arrive because the best buy was out of stock at the time
Kill me already.
> Nobody is born with some innate ability to draw, but some people's brains work in a way that is more suited to drawing
> but some people's brains work in a way that is more suited to drawing
Yeah, that's called talent.
Nope, like every craft, you get better at it by practicing it.
It all depends on your dedication, really.
Thanks, I can't wait to finish it. Also I suck at composition, but I'm trying to improve, I guess.
>Be mildly good at a lot of things like drawing, playing piano
>Never specialize in anything
>Jack of all trades, master of none
Kinda sucks honestly, if you're good at something people will expect you to improve, but i just stay there.
I also dont have time to do so, 5th year in medschool
I drew this three years ago, it's probably the only noteworthy vidya draw I've done other than some sorta Skyrim lesbo thing.
Some people are certainly more born to it than others.
There's no way I'm posting the fetish shit, so this will have to do.
The wrong part is the notion that artistic ability is more centered around natural talent than practice and experience.
You can be wired a little better for it, and pick some concepts up easier, but in the end you're never going to produce anything worthwhile without working for it.
Go to /ic/ and read the stickies but please if you want to keep your sanity do not actually browse or post on the board itself. That place is literal cancer. They get so caught up in the fact they are a board about critique they have all turned into huge assholes who hate everything.
elder scrolls online
i managed to get the username "the lusty argonian maid"
i can't believe it wasn't already taken
i also made THE ugliest orc ever
Stuff about games, of course.
Stuff for games, hell no, not yet at least.
well i wouldnt go as far as calling it art but i was drawing this earlier today
Yeah, quite often actually.
Pic related, it's something I just finished.
Used to drawfag on /a/ and /vp/ but then the requests just got boring or the denizens got obnoxious.
yes, too busy with work to continue on it though.
I wish i knew how to draw
Would draw lewds from my pawn from dragon's dogma
A dinky $60 dollar tablet and pirated photoshop are all you need friendo.
anyone else feel uncomfortable with the term "artist" or "art"? I mean, I can do drawings, I have drawn a lot of things, but I don't feel like an artist... you see shitters doing strawmans and calling themselves artists all the time, is almost as bad as the word "gamer"
>holy fuck, I'm going to become an artist today
It's what I told myself before picking up modeling.
And yeah I'm still shit but I'll get better one day. As for now ,I'll keep making sad aliens.
it's a shit face though
i'm going to ignore it
Also, in the dark messiah manual, it has a section with portraits of each of the characters with a paragraph talking about them. Sareth's portrait is a question mark
Sorry about the watermarks, just pulled these off my DA.
Okay, I will!
Here's one of the game's bosses. Also, disclaimer:
I drew the designs for these guys, but I didn't draw this art. The art guy working on my game did. I'll dump the designs I made for them after I'm done dumping their official art.
I know. As a matter of fact, I think I'm actually getting worse. It really hurts you know.
Maybe one day the god of talent will visit me too.
I just downloaded a bunch of brushes off of google and stuck with the ones I liked.
I draw a cat in a day for a games jam.
I suck at the 2D
probably gonna sound like a shill but if you find yourself still drawing like a 5-year-old, you need to start by reading "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain" to move away from symbol drawing and to understand how artists perceive/see the things they draw. It's very different from the way someone with no drawing experience sees.
also go look at the links on the sticky of
Are you making a Madoka videogame?
Another one of the bosses.
Thoughts so far?
I have a small watercolor series of Ren & Stimpy X Dark Souls mash ups I did. Heres a sketch of one of them
Drew this for an Anon in a drawthread.
Not him, but tell me more: What programs should I use? It's SAI ok? Is there any tutorial to draw with your style? I know it's PRACTICEPRACTICEPRACTICESOMEMORE but I wanted to at least direct on some style, not just draw bodies.
I don't know what that means. Is it a genre? If Madoka means "Action RPG with a comically spooky tone", then yes, I am making a Madoka videogame.
Mind sharing the one(s) you've been using on >>257414983 ?
I'd very much like to try it out.
Talent is an excuse for people to justify never trying to get better at something.
Learning to draw is like learning anything else, you progress as fast as you learn. That's why some people get gud from nothing relatively quickly (like Boogie) and others sit in the same place forever (like Dobson). It all depends on how you learn, not what you're instinctively born with.
>What's the game about?
Oh god, where to begin?
You know what? Just check the update blog, it has all the info you need.
Replace the slashes with dots:
Yes, and I hate myself for tagging this one.
i don't know but i think it's when instead of drawing an eye, you draw a symbol for an eye.
Like how cartoon eyes don't actually look like real eyes, but we kinda assume they do. Same thing with most if not all cartooning.
In itself it's not really a bad thing, especially when you're starting out, but you can't get as good as you could get if it's all cartoony
Last one is WIP from when I was hanging at am airport earlier.
it isn't about being perfect, you know
it's about knowing how to make a lot of different things. when something doesn't work out, don't beat yourself up. you've just narrowed it down to what doesn't work, and you've improved in that respect.
I'm going to assume it's something like image related.
You've been exposed to symbols of things all the time, like the football shaped eye or the sun being a circle with lines coming out of it. A lot of people get hung up on trying to draw symbols or what they think something should look like, instead of what it actually looks like.
Sai is a perfectly fine program.
The color mixer in it is very handy to use.
Pic related is made with sai
Without a good foundation trying to develop a distinct style is usually not a very good idea.
Style is just something that develops naturally after enough practice.
If you do want to copy a style, for gods sake please pick a master not some neet on the internet
Basically, it's drawing something from your memory and understanding of it rather than the object you're observing itself.
It's fucking hard to distance yourself from symbol drawing, but it's a necessary process.
>still no nudes
>not even nipples
I don't ever look at reference images, does that mean I'm already beyond that point?
It depends. Could you reproduce reference images if you wanted to ?
If not, then it just means you've learned enough symbols to handle yourself, which is fine in its own way I guess.
Shiiiiieeet, if moe is what you want you can either watch more chinese cartoons and go from their, or do the whole loomis thing and then chinese cartoons.
He meant old masters; anyone from the Renaissance era, and up to the 1900s, give or take.
Its never a bad thing to use reference, just as long as you're not straight up tracing.
This is hilarious.
Here and there, mostly there.
I tried experimenting recently.
The results were.
>That perfectly positioned dick mushroom
Sorry I didn't expresed myself correctly, I meant "what kind of draw style is that?". Like, should I start with the colors and then add the lines? Or shit like that.
I would pick you, because you fucking rock, but with my job I don't have enough time to just sit and dedicate the evening on it.
Thanks anyway, I have a few minutes now and you made me clean my tablet.
Learn to draw real human anatomy and facial features first. From there you can stylize and emulate other styles, but you need a good base.
Even artists making ultra wide hipped tit monsters like Erect Sawaru learned their art by drawing normal anatomy.
Thanks for the input, anon!
I'm sorry I'm viraling so much, it's just that all of my crewmembers for the game's developement are from 4chan, and every time I post about the game, someone seems to hop aboard the dev team and contribute something wonderful.
how do I git gud? I'm just beginning to draw. Loomis was nice, but it got complicated and difficult to read quickly.
Learn to draw kawaii animals like Budd Root-kun.
>tfw no pencil and decide to do this all in pen with no sketching at all
I'm fucking retarded
Well usually the way to go about is you plan out picture, lay down your line work, decide where your darks and lights are.
Paint single tone colors, then mix them. Keep track of where your lights and darks are.
Its important to have your general composition and color planned before hand
Remember to use layers, they are your friend.
Anyways, the sticky at /ic/ can explain it much better than I can.
I do JoJo but it takes a goddamn long time to do it right. Araki is pretty fucking based.
I worked after some screencaps of my playthrough of that level. As for the rest, already know that and I am working on improving it.
Nazradjinn. competitive 2-player shmup with a circular track like resogun, and color invulnerability mechanics like ikaruga. arabian-esque theme.
coming to a kickstarter near you at the end of the month (hopefully)
>difficult to read
Apparently you already finished it anon?
No, must've been someone else who colored it. I would've done it myself but didn't feel like it needed it honestly.
This one came out a lot better even though it's
notvidya I used a ruler for the hair and glasses
not video games not enough time to practice or get a tablet so im forever stuck on pencil and paper
i got several styles though i usually only stick to one for a couple weeks
Spoken like a true autist who has convinced himself never to try
Muh nigga. Best FF "villain".
I made this one but when it comes to coloring I'm extremely slow.
Not that faggot, but it is kind of amateurish in some spots. Still pretty good for what it is though.
I just wish he had thrown in some of the trippy ass effects that regularly go on in the game.
this is probably my only vidya related doodle
im not great i know
Wow, I never noticed how shitty that one looks.
I artfag in
I draw almost every day but make very little improvement, what are some good guides/tutorials I can use to
Well you're getting better at Medicine so there's that!!
having a hobby and practicing helps you better in school, at least if what you're saying is true, you have somewhere to start growing as an artist, musician, vidya, etc
>I used a ruler for the hair and glasses
That's fine since the original was all about sharp angles and shit.
Still, get better taste in animu.
>>we /co/ now
If that was /co/, he would be cybering and ask for his tumblr. The modern /co/ drawthreads are rules by a wanabe mod that tolerate no fucking criticism of anything. and then there's the batman thread, for faggot with not enough skin to go to /ic/
OC here, I can explain some stuff if you want, I am by no means a professional. But it's always a droning sound after you've beaten a level, I wanted to keep that kind of desolate feel it has by not having any trippy effects, I did experiment with trippy filters but in the end I just felt like emptiness is the best way to go honestly. And I had this mindset of not showing of to much of the characters faces, since I thought it would clash to much with everyone's head cannon on how everyone looks.
i always figured saitama doing a rigorous training routine forever was a joke, and it was because it's one of my favorite parts of the series, but holy shit i just realized how good a metaphor it can be
I think that kind of works given the flies/moths/gnats buzzing around the light.
I think it could have been pushed a little further, but it's hard for me to give suggestions how as I'm not sure how I'd go about it myself.
>the animation and style was good
I can't laugh hard enough at this.
>and it was a homage to every super robot show ever
Family Guy also shoves tons of references to other things, but that doesn't make it good.
I'm going to post this on /ic/ and get blown the fuck out
>I think it could have been pushed a little further
I know I could as well. But sometimes you have to drop it and call it finished even if it pains you (still does to me) because you need a landmark or a stepping stone to be able to look back at and say "hey I did somethings wrong, I can improve it in my next work". Success isn't built on one hit wonders, it's built on mistakes.
>giant tits and cowgirls everywhere
I love you.
Got an ETA on that FE comic?
Got an ETA on EgoTrigger?
style isn't a problem, i'm very versatile, it's making my art look cleaner and more proportionate that's my current goal. but yeah i might try your idea since it's something i really haven't considered
too much pride to copy off someone else's work
It's threads like these that make me want to go back to /ic/
Was going to do it tomorrow, but I'll boot the laptop up really quick after I get some stuff done first.
Someday. I need to get off my as and get good at backgrounds and panels first.
Just torrent Villpu and find Hampton PDF.
Reverse image search this to find what I mean
If you re read my post I wasn't trying to tell you that it doesn't count or anything stupid like that, I was just saying that posting something good like what you did (Mona Lisa) in comparison to anything stylized (didn't want to give any one specific example because there are too many) doesn't discredit the other thing, it's just comparatively worse.
Everyone thinks it's
>YOUR'E SHIT GO READ SOME BABY LOOMIS FAGGOT.
But that's only the new artists on da.
80% is shitposting in there.
They even boo out big name artists like Rapooza
They're also those people who are at the same time less than decent at it, and lash out at anyone who isn't due to hollow competitiveness.
Of course this is by no means true for the entire board but more often than not you can see this within moments of someone like One-Vox posting a work.
I've always had ideas for horror type games, but I never learned to model or code very well.
I used to be sort of good at drawing but not really. Then I started to draw lewds and my parents found out so I never drew again.
Imaishi is just trying to steal japan's best animator style, not only that but he's also trying to blend it with western type animation, he deserves only death.
GL is just a Geter ripoff with elements from J9 and Xabungle Imaishi and the entirety of TRIGGER are killing japanese animation
That's what they said I should do, but the embarrassment of the situation had already destroyed my fragile teenage ego, so I pretended it never happened and that I've never drawn anything ever.
Gainax and trigger are both dogshit.
What's sad is japan will never seek to do good animation with the slave wages they pay and sick fucks they hire.
Passion can only get you so far when even a greasy spoon restaurant waiter makes more money than you. They really need to riot for their basic rights.
Not him but I doodled this a few weeks ago. I'm trying to get into a habit of drawing everyday.
I'm a fucking terrible person with no friends.
That said, I get along with pretty much anyone fairly well. I even meet up with some pals sometime for dinner.
That doesn't make gurren lagann's animation not gainax-shit.
b/c im a fucking loser who just browses 4chan all day instead of doing anything productive
for a thread one time
it was fun, but before i had a tablet
Remember that the animation grunts are competing with the subcontract animation studios in Korea, China, and India, who are all willing to do more work for a smaller amount of pay, and does a better job in proportion to the wage.
All they can blame is the higher costs of living in Japan.
I agree it's too high, but at the time I didn't see it, and now I don't feel like fixing it.
People who suck at drawing only do because of a lack of knowledge. Practice doesn't help if you're shooting blind each time.
Hell I felt like going through one of the instructional art books some guy posted in /a/ a couple of years ago and learning how the spacing of the brow, chin, nose, and hairline generally was helped far more than drawing things by sight.
Anyone have some good advice that can help me get motivated to draw again? I used to draw almost all my life, then around me graduating high school some 7-8 years ago, I went full NEET and lost all passion to draw. I've done some doodles here and there, but after looking back at my old works, I find myself hating almost all of it and realizing I need to basically start from scratch to improve killed my desire to draw.
>people are born with talent
>watch that one fucker who hasn't studied shit but has "talent" blow you away. You couldn't be more wrong.
As someone who regularly gets told by people when they see my art "oh wow you have so much talent," This could not be further from the truth. Every single bit of skill at art that I've gotten has been from practice, practice, and more fucking practice.
It pisses me off when people just dismiss it thinking that "oh you just have an innate gift for drawing," when in fact it's actually the product of a lot of blood sweat and tears. Sure some people might be a little more inclined to a certain activity than others but being a "super genius drawing legend" is something that only happens in my japanese animes.
>Be fine with my poses and outlines
>Begin shading and drawing smaller details
>Big areas are fine
>Get to the details with crevices and muscles/fat like palms, faces and groins
>Get completely locked in those areas
>Can't even imagine how things should look
>Draw at random to "make progress"
>It's pure gibberish
>Study pictures with similar construction
>Every line feels absolutely dumb
>End up copying other images
>It always ends up like crooked shit that clearly not like the rest
This is my biggest hurdle. I also don't want to "ruin" anything I've drawn decently so far, thus many drawings are incomplete. I also love to obsess on things for far too long, leaving me burnt out after each drawing. I think I need a huge brush and force myself to make xbox big strokes on a canvas or something.
Talent isn't an innate skill. Talent is a culmination of things that make a person more adept in gaining skills.
Think of it like a multiplier.
Skill = Talent(Knowledge+Practice)
There are people with such a small talent multiplier, that they will never reach a desirable level within a reasonable time. Either their body will degrade, impacting their performance, or they will die before they ever get good.
The fact of the matter is that some people are just better at things than others. If it were a mere question of practice and learning, we wouldn't have people that were just simply better than everyone else.
If by 'draw' you mean 'make high quality mspaint edits', then yes.
First, if you have any feeling of self-anger, jealousy, or depression, shake it off. There's enough barriers against what you want to do without self-inflicted emotional walls. Try meditation and look up Alan Watts's audio, and look up Pathway to Happiness podcasts.
Next, look up how other people who had made progress did so (http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php/269717-noob-to-pro-a-list-of-CA-s-epic-progress-sketchbooks) and look up artists who's art interests you. Despite what many people say, you don't have to put in 10+ hours a day to get gud. Most people who progressed very quickly only put in 2-4 hours a day in an average day, and had a minimum of 1 hour per day of drawing.
Finally, do not forget to draw what you want. The biggest pitfall that people fall into is that they just follow whatever tutorial or practicing schedule someone else made to study art. None of it will help you draw better if you do not understand how to apply it to your own drawings. People burn out quickly if they do not see what the purpose of their studies are, and they stick around much better if you apply them.
Again, the first step is to believe in yourself and to steel yourself from self-hate and frustration, because, really, that is the only reason that many people drop out from drawing, and many other endeavors, in the first place.
That's half of what I'm saying. I believe some people are better. But not innately better at their skill. You don't just get born with a skill and that's that. These people are more adept in gaining the skill. Whatever physical/mental tools they were given in the genetic toolbox, mixed with whatever environment they were brought up in, they ended up being more adept at gaining certain skills.
>If it were a mere question of practice and learning, we wouldn't have people that were just simply better than everyone else.
You're just not putting in the same much effort or you really don't care about it. I practice alot in fighting games but I honestly don't care to master it as I won't be going pro. The result? 60% win rate and I forget combos in a week without playing. My mind just regards it as useless knowledge and wipes it.
I hate arriving late in threads I wanna post in.
It takes forever for me to want to draw something and I finally managed to put something on paper.
Only issue is I have no idea how to background yet.
and a few Fire Emblem and Animal Crossing comics for /vg/ back when people talked about Fire Emblem and Animal Crossing.
then tumblr and reddit stole them, erased my signature, and reblogged them
Incoming multiple reply
Visit a livestream for example, Zone-tan, Slugbox, Incase, (lm) legoman, and kind of get a feel for it.
Maybe seeing someone else have that same flame will reignite yours.
Nothing is wrong with symbol drawing.
I personally like the Fallout style, but I won't flash it around like a big cock.
Big canvas and a dash of Villpu.
You need too recall that studies are just "studies". They may not look good, but you will learn something from it.
Have fun with what you learned.
Art isn't all uptight and royal.
There's a certain charm to using an inferior medium. You WANT something to look poorly chopped apart, and it's harder to get that look if you actually have good tools at your disposal.
>What TV show runs at 24-30 FPS?
oh, I also did this at 4 in the morning once becauseivelostcontrolofmylife.jpg
I've done a few Pokemon in MS Paint, but other than that, not really.
>tfw my tablet broke 4 months ago and i lost all motivation to draw because fuck using a mouse
now i just post shit on miiverse sporadically
i think the very first time i drew mario since forever.
I started this a couple weeks ago but can't bring myself to finish it
I draw, have a blog, and also take commissions. However I will never reveal any of those on 4chan because if my 6 years around here has taught me anything, it's that involving 4chan in anything other than single anonymous posts at a time will destroy your life.
You people are the most egotistical, unthankful, merciless pieces of shit inexistance and thank god for that. I wouldn't have it any other way. In my opinion, draw threads are fucking cancer because it's basically the same thing as tripfagging. OC should happen spontaneously, not mass produced to the point where people drawing shitty doodles become miniature e-celebs.