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Blog #12 is up (untranslated)
http://blog.treeofsavior.com/
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Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj7uNOpCPbY
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the last mmo i'm going to play
hope it's up to the task
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>totem making class
sign me the fuck up
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>>256967881
>last mmo
lol ok
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>>256968216
It looks like >>256967715 is the one that makes totems, but I'm not sure.
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this game looks stupidly easy.
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>>256968559
Nevermind, it's pretty clear that it is based on the google translation.
>The priest class, making the variety of non-wood carving deep Agadir (dievdirbys)
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Wow, it's like Ys, but with 00000000000000000.02% speed.
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>>256968710
dievdirbys is an actual word. I thought they just smashed their foreheads on the keyboard
>>256968730
hello again
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>>256967593
>Archer is a class-based specialized in battle many enemies ranger (ranger) is.
Looks like archers are the go-to farming class.
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>I Q) Samurai or similar classes exist?
>A) sinobi (shinobi) class is available.
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>implying it ever makes it to the west
>implying it won't get a p2w cash shop if it does
RO is dead, let it rest.
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>>256969648
When the game is playable it won't be restricted to any region, and you can switch the language to english if you want. Obviously it will be less laggy near Korea though.
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>>256967046
Release when
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closed beta soon. Only info we have
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Well now with the totem making class I really can't make up my mind what to play as
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>Keyboard combat
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>Ys on 0.0000001% speed
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>>256970360
It's simple, you join the master race and play as a Cryomancer, you want to be cool, right?
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>>256967046
Will this game save MMOs?
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>>256967046
>no mouse control
Why? Why do people do this? The game looks like it as 8-directional movement. Who thought that this is a good idea? It might be perfectly fine for a single player game, or for a very slow game, but it will be a pain in the ass in PvP/GvG, or any sort of quick and challenging combat.
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Hopefully the 2 redditfaggots are on vacation this week.
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>corridor maps
>more focus on instanced content
>more focus on quests, especially important quests giving you good gear which the developer stated in the Q&A you shouldn't skip
>automatic party forming without dividing exp, AKA socializing goes out of the window and it will always be better to just automatically join the big group and do your thing
>all areas showcased so far displayed a very few number of enemies on-screen
>craft classes are half botched due to the multi-job system, especially since there is no starting path that is specific for crafters, so every crafter class WILL be half fighter half crafter no matter what
>4 stats to level up, much fewer secondary attributes (like def stemming from vit, lucky dodge, or status resist) massive dumbing down overall
>"POWER" will be one of the four stats and is both spell damage and weapon attack
>no more dodge and lucky dodge, just dodge
>confirmed by the leaked dev forum that there WILL be items that facilitate % of upgrading items, meaning that wether or not the game will be P2P, there is going to be a cash shop regardless
>WoE not planned for release, meaning that the netcode will be again some butchered piece of shit that does not work well with massive players all in one room, just like RO
>directly rips off weapons from MH and DaS, with specific images from in-game and devs asking to copy those
>~25% of the skills of the playable classes, according to the FGT, are copy-pasted with a different name and color to them, they are at the LoL rehashing point already and they showed just half
>top-down computer action-rpg without mouse aiming
>not self-publishing, AKA the game will be in the hands of a horrible publisher in US and EU
And dropped.
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>>256968557
It's quite update, gotta rework it but I got busy lately.

Have this instead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deDGJzHJ2Vg&list=PLVYdFiEdT6m9takPqwT8vqLtXXLdRdSsd
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>>256971209
>update
outdated*
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>>256967474
So what does this class do exactly?
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>>256971209
This setup looks horrible.
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>>256970740
>Hopefully the 2 redditfaggots are on vacation this week.
Hi
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>>256967881
? you terminal or somthing?
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>>256969878
>When the game is playable it won't be restricted to any region
This is not how Korean law works. It's also not how international business restrictions work - good luck keeping it alive when not being able to market and cater towards US and EU markets.
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>>256971383

The clergy-based class that uses predictive ability ? Oracle (oracle) is.
You may not know in advance which items impair monsters or other players around to tell where you've pre-attack.
Strategic farming can play along to use as well, because switching to another monster discard one monster similar level, so a field somewhere in the future you can summon monsters

Thanks Google
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>>256971750
Not him but I can answer for him: it's the last mmo he will give a change before abandoning the entire genre altogether and declare that the genre is beyond saving forever.
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Dievdirbys looks pretty cool. I assumed it was a crafting class without any combat skills.
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>>256971837
>a class that works as a scanner, which loses its entire purpose once people put up a wiki/learn the weaknesses
I see they are losing ideas pretty quickly
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>>256971837
So it's a class that can see weaknesses and marks where the monster will attack, and something about summoning.
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>>256972021
>crafting class without combat skill
No single crafting class in TOS will not have combat skills regardless.
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>>256970969
tl;dr
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>>256967342

HOLY SHIT, WE MOONLIGHT SCULPTOR NOW
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>you can make loli totems
I know what class I'm playing.
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>>256972315
he's butthurt the game won't copypaste RO 100%
he posts this mostly (and I'm fair) innacurate pasta in every ToS thread. Probably has shares with Gravity.
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>>256972305
Oh, have they said that? I'm glad to hear it. It would be rather dull to have crafting classes that no one would play aside from as alt characters for pure crafting.
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>>256972567
So said the frogeater who is literally part of IMC Games.
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What's the sub fee for this?
Looks interesting.
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>>256969648
>has an official english blog
>devs want to give it a global release
c'mon anon, don't be dumb now.
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Since next Friday is a national holiday in the Republic of Korea. Please hyujae developer blog, thank you note.

No blog next week because muh gwangbokjeol
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>>256972869
>implying I eat frogs

>>256972151
>implying you don't want a char revealing boss drops before bothering killing them
Also most classes are pretty unique and interesting so far. Don't tell me that Dievdirbys wood carving mid-fight isn't badass.
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>>256973043
>What's the sub fee for this?
16999? monthly, give or take.
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>>256973234
No, it isn't "badass". Take your marketing somewhere else.

Come back when they implement mouse aiming.
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so are the characters over leveld for the monster their showing combat with or is the game really going to supply no challenge at all?
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>>256973054
You surely understand this means they will have to partner with a major company (publisher) to bring it to the US and EU for sakes of PR, payment, legal aspects and support. As all of this shit is very expensive it means the publishers get to decide how the game gets monetized in their regions.
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>>256973370
>16999 fences
What's that in hard-earned, god-honest american dollars?
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>>256973492

>I've never seen a showcase before.

We both know you're smarter than that anon.
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>>256973375
>Come back when they implement mouse aiming.
There's mouse aiming in the developper build. It's still undecided if it make it for CBT (probably OB), but they're definitely debating it.
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>>256973492
I don't think you can judge the game's difficulty based on clips where the point is to showcase skills of classes.
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>>256973492
Remember all the fun mass mobbing you did in RO1? That wasn't intended. The game is now "fixed".
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>>256973492
Overleveled obviously, since it's only to showcase skills. If you look at the low exp they get after a kill (and the one-two shottings), it's easy to figure out.
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>>256973594
16999 South Korean Won equals
16.44806 US Dollar

What I want to know is how that tripfag knows this.
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>>256973897
He is an actual marketer who has access to the dev forum.
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So im just seeing this for the first time and i kinda reminds me of Ragnarok Online.

Is there any US release or is it another korean only MMO? Is there a release date or anything?

Beta?

Any information would be quite nice.
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>>256974000
CBT was supposed to be around now, but it was delayed.
That's pretty much all we know about the release date.
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>>256973805
>That wasn't intended.

>Several classes had large scale aoe abilities
>Several areas had high spawn rates
>Several minibosses and special monsters would summon minions

I don't think so anon.
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>>256973492
Apparently you cannot showcase a skill when a game is challenging, or so people said around here.
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>>256974000
nice trips
Korean CBT (but with an english translated client, and allowing international participants) was scheduled for this summer. But it's been delayed a bit, they are working on level scaling and balancing (they are making the monsters stronger)
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>>256973492
God you're just as retarded as the people asking why the enemies don't attack in the Hyrule Warriors moveset videos. It's a simple fucking concept, beat up on super easy enemies so you can show off the flashiest moves without getting hit/killed.
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>>256973897
16.4k dollars a month seems a little overpriced to me
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I have been waiting for something like this since RO
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>>256974310
Time to find another game, poorfag.
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>>256974148
Explain the patch that introduced intentional monster de-aggro pretty quickly into the game's life then.

Unless you think by "mass mobbing" I meant 10-15 monsters.
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>>256974502

Oh right, that. I thought that was a counter measure to defend against dumping mob trains on people. I mean one of the things people like to do was gather a bunch of shit then fly wing away.
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>>256974923
That wouldn't work to save those people anyway, since it activates randomly.

Gravity consistently tried to fight heavy mobbers since knights existed. They even employed server rules that made you reportable for carrying more than X monsters at once, and GMs would silence you if they caught you.

I pretty much quit the game partly because big parties doing big mobs became a bannable offence... in a diablo-like game.
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>>256975367

I guess they didn't want one person/group to dominate maps seeing how certain maps were popular destinations.
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Tell me why I should care about this MMO aside from muh RO and the combat.
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>>256975837
Yeah, better to ban people than making more than 3 maps out of 200 useful.
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>>256974502
>>256975367
When did this patch come? Because I never had any issues at all in gathering all monsters in the whole map.
Plus the rule was obviously there on most official servers due to the huge population and it being open world - with no real way of stopping other players from gathering all the mobs since there was no PvP or similar, plus obviously stealing other peoples mobs were also against the rules.

Most private servers didn't have this rule since they were smaller population wise and could handle it
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>>256976109
I don't care if you care, that marketer probably does though.
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>>256976109
Did you hate pure crafters being crafters?
Did you hate the expansive statistics/thought they were too complex?
Did you think the game was too fast with speed potions?
Then this will interest you.
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>>256967342
That archer class does a shit load more damage than the other classes. Are they all the same level in these videos?
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>>256976362
>Did you hate pure crafters being crafters?
Did you mean something like this?
>Did you hate crafters being pure crafters?
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>>256967342
I REALLY hope that everything they're shown so far is the most basic, earliest and most beginner gameplay that is available.
Because this shit is ridiculously slow. The enemies spend more time doing nothing than actually fighting or moving (or even reacting to being hit).
What I've seen so far looks like a Valium in form of an MMO.
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>>256976109
>aside from combat
geez anon i don't know, why should i care for FPS aside from shooting?
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>>256976198
In my server, it came between 2-1 and 2-2. Not sure about kRO. That would equal 4-5 months into the life of the officials in Europe.

>Most private servers didn't have this rule since they were smaller population wise and could handle it
Actually p.servs back then (2003-2004) did not have it yet because athena wasn't properly emulated yet (well, some bugs are still not perfectly replicated as of today and they gave up on those, but it mostly works the same)
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I hope my toastiest of the toaster can play this.
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>>256977268
you love BRs that much?
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>>256976858
I'm pretty sure it is, they've kept showing low leveled monsters that have a few hundred health.
There isn't much footage of attack/movement speed buffs, but it's out there. Not sure if there's any high level monster footage though.
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>>256977197
I meant rule as the server rule that you shouldn't mob too many monsters.

And if it came that early then I've surely played it with that patch and sure, some, a really few amount of monsters did de-aggro after a while but you could just turn back and pick them up again, it was still possible to gather the whole map without any issues.
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>>256977413
BRs can't afford to spend 16 americans per month.
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>>256976912
Don't even compare them, I want to do more than smack monsters in an MMO. I'll play an actual game if combat's all I'm in for.
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Don't mind me. Just posting this.
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>>256978058
>mfw I finally found my Y Online
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>>256978058
Most people interested in this would be people that actually enjoyed RO so the pic doesnt really apply. But the marketeer trip kinda made me loose interest in this.
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>>256977529
>I meant rule as the server rule that you shouldn't mob too many monsters.
Oh. Yeah.

>a really few amount of monsters did de-aggro after a while but you could just turn back and pick them up again, it was still possible to gather the whole map without any issues.
No, there came a point where enemies would lose aggro so frequently that one of them would stop every second, making it slower to keep mobbing than killing.

I do not remember the numbers, but if we assume that every second, a monster has a de-aggro check chance of 5%, that would mean that having 20 monsters would net you one enemy dropping out of your train each second, on average.

Forcing you to adjust the size/setup of your party and the way you mob overall. Because there would then be a breaking point in which mobbing more would be a bigger waste of time.
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>>256978586

>so the pic doesnt really apply.

It's a fucking MMORPG.
Of course it applies, dipshit.
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>>256978586
That would imply that the game remained very faithful to the original RO.
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>>256978058

All I want is an MMO that looks like RO but with updated graphics and music by SoundTeMP, which it has. It's already perfect for me. The rest of the game can be mediocre for all I care, but the fact that the gameplay looks good TO ME is a bonus.
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>>256978708
Well no the pic describes someone wanting an MMO thats like his favourite RPG. ToS is an MMO that's like another freaking MMO.
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>>256978586
> But the marketeer trip kinda made me loose interest in this.
Send an email my way and I'll change your mind.
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>>256976145
>than making more than 3 maps out of 200 useful

There were a lot of useful maps. That didn't stop people from taking their assassins to Orc Dungeon.
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>>256979117

>ToS is an MMO that's like another freaking MMO.

And where do you think that "another freaking MMO" got ITS inspiration from? Thin air?
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>>256979340
Well, yeah. Unless you believe MMOs existed since the beginning of time itself.
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>>256979280
[email protected]

I will happily accept dolphin porn
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>>256979452

Whatever, m8
Enjoy your Y: Online.
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>>256979340
Mostly Diablo and Tibia.
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>>256979340
The point of my original post was that people interested in it on here are mostly former RO players, so the pic doesn't really apply since they are not expecting some grand RPG stuff but just a RO clone.
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>>256979553
This game is supposed to be inspired by a pre-WoW MMO. Before WoW ruined MMOs for everyone that wasn't playing WoW, there was enough variety and games with all kinds of different features and design choices.
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>>256979676

> they are not expecting some grand RPG stuff but just a RO clone.

And it already fails in this regard because it plays nothing like RO and barely looks like it, too.
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>>256979676
Actually the issue is that people don't like the game for not copying RO enough, even.
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looks neat but knowing it's a korean mmo it will probably be a huge pile of shit. I actually like korea but they cannot make good games at all, especially mmos
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>>256979867
>>256979941
Wether it fails in that regard doesn't make the pic any more relevant, which is what the discussion was about in the first place.
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>>256979867
>barely looks like it
It looks exactly like an updated RO, visually speaking.
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>>256980119
But it does.

>guy expects this mmo to be as glorious as MMO X (RO1)
>instead it turns out he doesn't like it (Not RO1)
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>>256980119

The whole point of the pic is that your setting yourself up for disappointment, just like every new MMORPG that comes out. Read between the lines a little
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>>256980265
Bosses are 3D, which was an early concept for RO but was later discarded. Game is completely different and ruined.
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>>256980457
>>256980429
The origin of the picture is based on cinematics that shows a lot of cool stuff while the game itself isn't anything like that.
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>>256973234
What's stopping me from switching to oracle, checking out a boss's drops, then switching to a different class?
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>>256981038
The fact that you wasted job points on oracle when you can just check a wiki.
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>>256980457
RO was also a new MMO once you know.
And the pic clearly references the kind of hype that is supposed to make you believe the game is some sort of dynamic interactive world multiplayer rpg where you can do awesome shit with other people. YOu know like all thos wow clones and shit.
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>>256980659
>Bosses are 3D, which was an early concept for RO but was later discarded

The guardians still lived though.
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>>256981159
If you watch the video it clearly shows what that specific monster will drop, not what that monster type can drop.
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>>256980917
The picture may have been intended for newer MMOs nostalgia but it perfectly applies to this as well.
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>>256981038
You can't switch that easily/quickly.
Also Oracle only reveals the items the mob will drop when you kill it, it doesn't reveal the full loot table.
Also the class has summoning abilities and can change a monster appearance/level. They also make it easier to discern monsters attack patterns.
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>>256981292
Why would you want to check each individual drop table instead of just killing them all?
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>>256981625
Bosses.
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They better add marriage option quickly.
I have an internet girlfriend, and she's been telling me that she wants to play a game where we can get married.
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>>256981625
because 80 classes need a lot of skills
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>>256981167
See >>256981339
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>>256981625
Because maybe I don't want to waste time/supplies on something that won't drop anything?
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>>256981185
Those don't count because they were all grey as fuck.
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>>256981712
>>256981802
>alright this boss wont drop good shit
>let's just let another party take it for free, we're gonna wait for the next one
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ugh please be released already. i've been craving a new MMO and since the only two i ever liked are dead(RO and Trickster) i'm left in the dust

though i have found a Trickster p.server last night i don't know how good it is
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>>256982052
You have limited imagination. I'm sure players will find a way to use it effectively (and abuse it, most likely).

If it was up to you, we would only get 5 classes with mirrored skills, oh wait.
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>>256981460
From the video it looked like Oracle can also summon monsters.

We hocus pocus sage now?
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>>256982078
>implying it will release outside of korea before 2 years
Lol
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>>256982324
>playing oracle to summon monsters
>not just switching to bokor and having a horde of zombies
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>>256982238
>If it was up to you, we would only get 5 classes with mirrored skills, oh wait.
That's what will effectively happen once people like me figure the game out.

Enjoy your "imagination".
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>>256982324
>hocus pocus
I loved that skill. I wrote a tool for it once, that automated the whole process till class change came. Was pretty fun to see half the guild go to a DB room and everyone spamming Abra, MvPs galore.
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>>256982335
>implying implications
send me an email and you'll be playing within 3 months.
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>>256982324
Doubt something like hocus pocus will be in the game, it got nerfed to shit because players exploited it to no end.

>LoD spawn farming before LoD was released officially, with bugged exp gain on the slaves
>level 90-99 on officials in 3 hours
And then atomic butthurt ensued.
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>>256982902
That writing doesn't really fill me with confidence for the game you know.
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>>256982902
I'll rather play the game in 2025 being locked on the Brazilian server and cantonese client language than sending you my email.
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>>256983273
>no mmo will ever have lore as deep as RO
and most people never even knew about it
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>>256983273
Well, koreans were never good with english. Not that anyone reads dialog in a mmo anyway.
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>>256983314
Your loss
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>>256982902
>supposedly a HISTORIAN
>only comes to the realization that that is the tomb for the Goddess, the single most important entity in the history of ToS universe and the centre of everything
Well, this isn't shakespeare alright.
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>>256973730

I literally won't play this game if it doesn't have mouse support. This is the most retarded thing I have ever heard.

>savior of MMOs and will break back old school MMORPG goodness
>doesn't even use the mouse which has been the main control scheme for most MMORPGs since the beginnig
>suggesting instead a game controller setup for a genre that is PC based
>savior of anything

absolute shit
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>>256983430
What is the lore behind the clock tower?
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>>256983591
>>256983907
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>>256984018
50 years ago, after the decades long war, Rune-Midgard was finally be able to defeat the kingdom of Morroc and annexed it, thus claiming the entire expanse of Sograt Desert as part of the kingdom. However, the denizens of Morroc still remember their proud past, and although Morroc still has a Queen who normallly rules it, it is the Royal Governor of Morroc who has true powers.
About the same time, a detachment of Sages from Juno, rediscovered the Clock Tower, an ancient, massive relic considered by many to be the ultimate work of alchemy in the world. It predated the first Ragnarok and the Sages wanted to study the secrets within it. They thus settled around the Clock Tower, shaping the marshy riverbed around it into a sophisticated and technologically advanced city which they called Al de Baran.
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>>256983907
nice picture saving skills
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>>256983907
Forgot your trip there :^)
What an accident :^)
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>>256984006

I enjoyed Maplestory and you didn't do shit with a Mouse in that game except click on menus.
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>>256982078
RIP in pieces, Trickster. I'm sorry you had to go.
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>>256984270
Forgot my trip? I was just reposting what he deleted. Read the filename.
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>>256984270
if you check the filename, you'd have realized that's someone who saved the picture and posted it after seeing I deleted it (because I posted a wrong one).
Nice tinfoil hat tho
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Threadly reminder Musteque is a faggot shill.
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>>256977668
Well, a lot of what made RO and other MMOs good were community. We don't know how that's gonna be yet. The classes seem to generally be pretty party-centric rather than solo-viable, so it should be alright.
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>>256984485
>>256984398
>it's not possible for me to log out of my trip and post a different picture with a different name.
Nice try, Musteque+Soejima.
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>>256984534
We kinda already got that.
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>>256984534
Thanks for spreading lies.
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>>256984643
What made RO good was the world being harsh to people. Forcing you to partying and thus socializing.
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>>256984757
Do you think I can read those gook scribbles?
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>>256984914
Of course he does, he's a korean frogeater working on ToS.
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>>256984914
Don't worry, me neither
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>>256984843
RO was really harsh and forced me to partying.

When I reached 70~ it was really hard joining an anubis party and sitting all day.
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>>256984843
I remember there used to be a fanmade german RO webradio. Organized ingame events and stuff. Played nice music too. Had some chill evenings with that.
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>>256985019
I don't eat frog's legs.
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>>256984757
Is there a reason why you have someone that works for imc's email in your email field?
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>>256984843
then trans classes were introduced, and everyone became a powerhouse
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>>256984231
What about the constructs inside the clock tower? What about details on the orcs invasion?
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>>256985231
No reason at all, it isn't even mine.
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I hope they make a Biolab dungeon in ToS.
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>>256985127
>When I reached 70~ it was really hard joining an anubis party and sitting all day.

As what class?
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>>256984231
>posting literal fan theories from p.serv forums
Epic lore.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8XTU6bYv-E
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>>256984370
Except maple story is not a top-down ARPG.
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>>256985487
Then why are you telling people to email you if it's not your email?
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>>256985805
I can't reveal that just yet.
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>>256985127
>RO after the anubis patch
L O L
O
L
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>>256985728
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PNgdMcQprs

>tfw chills
>tfw fighting with all i have so we can get the emp
>tfw laughing when the castle get captured and in the middle of a fight
>tfw breaking precast & downing the faggot devosader
>tfw will never feel like this again
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>>256985875

can i really send you my email
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>>256986117
Yes. Nurturing the ambiguity is the only way my inbox doesn't get flooded.
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>>256985232
Yup. Then everyone used their 20k nuke to kill anything.
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>>256986237
Just signed you up for the daily cat joke newsletter.
I hope you enjoy the laughs my friend :)
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>>256985805
>>256986117
He already said this. It's his buddy who has access to dev forums. He's a retard and can't shut up about muh seekrets.
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>>256984370

maplestory is side-scrolling you dumbfuck
it is also a shit game regardless
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>>256986439
:^)
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>>256984370
i used to play maplestory with a xbox360 pad
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>no tkkr/tkm yet
>no sign of anything like woe
>no rogues/copycat style class

Should I lose hope?
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>>256986609
Sorry for "leaking" your secrets bro :^)
Thought you wouldn't mind, considering. :^)
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>>256986706
I did this too when I played an Aran. Macro inputs are the best.
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>>256986790
they wont be working on woe-like stuff until the game's released
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>>256986790
It's just a BETA
They'll ADD IT LATER

You people are so entitled jeez
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>>256986830
It's okay. It's not that effective, the inbox still get swarmed.
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>>256985127
>RO was really harsh and forced me to partying.

OH NO! HAVE TO PARTY IN AN MMORPG!! WHAT A CRIME!!

Holy fuck, it is faggots like you that have made MMORPGs so shitty.
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>>256986790
There are rogues and corsairs. Also >>256969491
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>>256987234
Rogue is a bow user in ToS though. Under Archer type.
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>>256987034
Did they say it will have PvP?
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>>256986706

That's because you are a consolekiddie FAGGOT.
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>>256987124
>visit RO2 forums for that horrible SEA opening
>entire feedback forum is:
>WAAAAH I CAN'T SOLO THIS OPTIONAL BOSS THAT I ENCOUNTER AT LEVEL 20, PLEASE MAKE THE ENTIRE GAME SOLOABLE FOR ME, OR IT'S STUPID
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>>256987493
arena pvp only for cbt, but they're definitely looking into large scale pvp.
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>>256987668
Ah, that's a relief, I thought they would make it only PvE.
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>>256987567
>gaming in the 21st century
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>>256987319
>bow-only
Nice dumbing down. What the fuck.
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>>256988089
This guy is trying really hard to make people believe that he has access to the game.
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>>256988374
Corsair will be the dual wielding masters.
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>>256987668
why did you faggot delete your own post? scared of bad publicity for the game? soloable bosses in an mmo is something that needs to die entirely, there is no excuse for this kind of shit.
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>>256988089
I feel like we are getting rused hard by reddit.
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>>256988494
What post? :^)
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>>256988675
the top one
>>256988625
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>>256988756
Oh that. You can always count on the 4chan x fags to reverse psychology shill for me.
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>>256988426
>rogue
>dual wielding in RO1
Better delete this one too captain.
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>>256979280
Already sent a email.

I hope I am not just flooding some poor imc games employee's mail account.
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>>256988837
Or you can provide an explaination as to why you frequently delete your posts.

I'm interested as well.
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>>256988089
You know that deleting your own post is useless right? People still can see them. Also i thought you were a marketer, why are you making this kind of post anyways?
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>>256988886
It IS an imc games employee's account. He got an email from them in korean, it says "to me" at the top >>256984757
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>>256989043
It's an effective way to attention whore. There's always a smartass using 4chan addon who will quote/repost/screenshot my deleted shit, advertising my posts for me, or thinking I made a sensible post but regretting it afterwards.
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>>256988625
This guy has like a double personality disorder.

Any criticism he posts about the game himself, he deletes himself.
What the actual fuck is going on. His head is fucked up.
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>>256988494
>>256988625
>>256989138
You guys realize he did that on purpose, right? He's literally going
>oops, I accidentally let it it slip, teehee ;)
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>>256989336
>>256989378
these guys get it
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>>256989219
>using 4chan addon
You don't need any addons to see delete posts.
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>>256989531
Well, I don't see them.
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Is there a class that uses rifles/pistols, preferably with heavy armor.
If not, then dropped.
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>>256989645
Put on autorefresh, marketer.

The more you know.
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>>256989651
We don't know, not all the classes have been revealed.
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>>256989651
Actually yes, Engineer does. But that's in Wildstar, where you belong.
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>>256989009

Oh well, poor guy.
Do you know if there is a paladin or a dark knight class? I fucking loved RO saders and kinda wanted that dark knight from DS RO to get implemented in the real game.
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>>256989724
When was this added? Never noticed it. Thanks.
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>>256989378
And with what purpose? This kind of post are just going to discourage people to play the game
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>>256989903
Peltasta is the closest to Pally, without the "Holy" part. Still, they can shield bash, shield throw, tank, provoke etc...
Not sure about DK.
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>>256988625
The fuck is this? this is a whole new level of disgusting sub human shill
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>>256990070
They get people to pay attention to him.
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>>256990070
>getting discouraged because some reddit tripfag is shitting over the thread
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Literally reddit garbage
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I'm confused about how classes work. Is there some kind of class-type multiclassing like Rift where you can build a whole class out of several different ones within an archetype? Or do you just pick one class and stick to it all the way? Because currently the individual class features sound very specific.

Also is your appearance bound to your class like in RO?
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>>256990261
>>>/reddit/
Go and stay go gook
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>>256990471
But I don't like the layout :(
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>>256989784
i want them to buy the rights to include porings into the game. with original sprite and all. the they should make it the most overpowered and most ridiculous enemy in the game (that won't be outclassed by further updates), and make it only accessible by the most awful, longest and most soul-crushing quest-line ever.
it should only drop 1 apple and 1 green apple
the green apple comes with the usual RO taming window, but has a 0% chance of success.
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>>256990070
>this one guy deleted his post like a retard on a ToS thread on /v/ in august 2014
>I think I will not play this game
Alright, I hate that faggot, but jesus christ, this is even bigger bait.
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>>256990447
Mixing classes will be possible, we don't know to what extent. Although no matter what, it must stay between your starting class archetype (swordsman/archer/cleric/wizard)
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>korea trash
>leddit marketer
>weeaboo sub human
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, after all these year ripoff Japan why gook still can't make a good game?
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>>256990648
So you cannot be half cleric half swordman? Well, this 80 classes branching job system is not actually complex at all if this is the case
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>>256990087
Speaking of shield throw
>What I have lost is the Q) pelta star cast shield mean? Jangbichang really did disappear from?
>If you are picked up in A) disappears in jangbichang limited time. If you have a ranged melee class so it made you think you need a degree of risk.

To me that sounds like you lose your shield if you don't pick it up in time. Are shields upgradeable? Sounds ridiculous if you can lose your expensive shield because of lag or something.
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Did this ever get a western release date?

I liked the art-style and my sister got into RO1, so I might see if she would be interested in this.
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>>256990856
Finally you're here. We needed you to battle the gook marketer, my fellow nippon samurai.
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>>256990604
>two tripfags circlejerk the thread
Absolutely disgusting
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>>256990648
Sounds reasonable, though from checking http://www.tree-of-savior.com/game/classes/ I can see there being classes listed as 'other'. Kind of considered playing a wizard with oracle mixed in so I can be a loremaster.
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>>256990856
>wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Why are you trying to move forward?
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>>256990896
Weapons aren't class restricted, so I guess you can be some kind of spellsword. Probably won't be that effective though.
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>>256990990
Shields can be lost and they are upgradable.
To quote IMC devs "you're a melee char, that's the risk of having a ranged attack dealing massive damage".

Enjoy your shield being looted by a poring. :^)
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>>256991035
Did you ever have sex with her?
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>>256991172
wwwwwwwwwwwwwww go back to leddit shill
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>>256971209
I assume the numbers on the analog are hotkeys? If so not bad.
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>>256991437
>I'm already there, I can't go back, technically.

>>256991514
Yes they are, and it's a temp layout I shopped in a couple minutes to show the fact that most game hotkeys can be bound to a pad (just missing 4 hotkeys)
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Will we also have complete freedom to build whatever we want to then get fucked in the ass because there is that little specific class and weapon who can oneshot you because you built survivability?
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>>256991416
See, every time I mention my sister on /v/, I get asked the same thing.

Every time I reply "Some frotting and handjobs between 10-14, she's 4 years older than me".

And every time somebody goes "HUR DUR LIARRRERRRR"
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>>256991750
stats and skills can be built manually via points.

>>256991878
I wouldn't call you liar, but I would kindly ask you to greentext the story(ies?) in detail.
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>>256991691
I have wrist problems so I can't use a keyboard+mouse for long.

Hype train is back on the rails.
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>>256971209
I'm pretty sure you can set a button that when held down changes the inputs of the controller. So you don't need to cram buttons to each direction of the analog stick, you'll have some space to work with.
Also
>jump button
>d pad being used for movement, not analog
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>>256991878
>straight shotacon
Elaborate.
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>>256992051
>muh disability will ruin it for everyone
Fuck off to KS you fucking faggot
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>>256992183
>mock up
d pad/analog being interchangeable as you see fit.
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>tripsfags and circlejerking


fuck tos im done
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>>256992586
>2014
>being this sensitive
You probably would have killed yourself while playing ToS after realizing it's invaded by BR and Pinoys.
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>>256992586
just report him for shitposting, god damn stop being so melodramatic
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Holy shit! this thread is fucking disgusting.
>Reddit gook markerter
No wonder why these korea garbage suddenly pop up alot
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>samefag circle jerking
Jesus christ
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jerkfag samecircling

cresus jist
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These threads are officially worse than ROG.
Good job.
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>>256993535
Thanks :^)
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>>256992492
>implying added controls schemes affect you

No John, you are the faggot.
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>>256989219
>needing an addon to see deleted posts
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circlefag samejerking up in this bitch
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>>256993709
Was autorefresh always built in the site though?
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>>256993638
>added
No mouse control because your faggot disability is apparently widespread.

Just go to the hospital and listen to radio on a bed, fuck.
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hey guyses I just found this
pic related
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I just wanted to say that, after so many threads about this, so many info about the game. All my hype is long dead.
This isn't ro, it doesn't have a single thing good like RO had.
RO wasn't perfect, but it was the best MMORPG ever made.

Thanks to this tripfag now I hate the game that I was looking to play, I was almost dying for it.
At least this tripfag saved me before the hype train crashed with the game, I got off the ride a bit before.
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I like what I'm reading about the crafting classes, it seems there's a real-time element to their craft.

Alchemist can go idle while brewing potions
Pardoner can sell items while idle
Oracle can help farm by identifying drops
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>>256994489
You're welcome :^)
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>>256994489
And the jack frost avatarfaggot is here too.

We could write a story about the 4-5 regulars plaguing these threads.
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>>256994647
me
saejima
jackfrostfag
japan ripoffag
ys speed fag

who else?
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>mfw i spoot a ToS thread
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>>256995024
hi
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>>256994875
Ys fag
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>>256995179
Thanks for trying to put my hype down like last time, i really appreciate it.

The weight is still a bit too much tho...
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>>256995225
shit i misread
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>>256995225
Looks like you're slow in the head.
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>>256995574
looks like you're 2 minuntes late
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>>256995179
I really hope that's just a placeholder, because that looks like someone shopped that smiling loli wit the wavy hair's mouth onto an onion.
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>>256993951
No mouse control because fuck you, not because of gamepads.

If you want RO then play RO
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>>256994587
Thank you.
>>256994647
Well, I only posted in two threads about ToS. And mainly because they sent me all the info and the link to the threads.

So, are people really hyped for this game after all that info? I'm asking to the ones who played and loved RO.
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>>256995903
Nope, hype went down after seeing the dungeons and the new stat system
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>>256995903
i don't have my hopes up, just like with WoD, but will definitly give it a chance
>tfw WoD now stands for wow
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>>256995903
I am, RO had that feeling i cant describe properly and i havent felt since i player RO, I have some faith in this, specially becuase i heard something about this game having the same guys who made the music for the original RO, which instantly got me hyped to the heavens.
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>>256996191
>WoD
Now this is masochism.
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I've never played RO, but what caused it to die?
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>>256996410
Gravity being utterly incompetent, the reason RO got popular was because its incidental bugs made people enjoy it more than they should have in the first place.

Then gravity went on and fixed the bugs over the years. And the game died.
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>>256996062
That was my main complaint in that last thread that I were avatarfagging with Jack Frost.
>>256996191
Wasnt WoD cancelled? You're talking about the Vampire one, right?
I feel your pain
>>256996215
How the fuck are you still alive after so many years. You're always playing all the damn MMO's anyways, even if they are bad. Like GW2
>>256996410
Third classes, high rates private servers, MvP being camped 24/7 so the market went to shit after a few years.
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its unreal that i grew up playing RO and now i can play the RO successor with my son
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>>256996410
age and no new players
they also made it worse and worse with every new update after a certain point.
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>>256996365
the new WoD did pretty good and is still improving man, i could hope the same for the game
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>>256996410
Everybody will give you one excuse or another. As far as I can tell you, it simply wound up with tons of members just quitting and joining the retarded degrees of private servers, the retarded administration fucking things up, and it was rare for the playerbase to actually increase, it just depleted over time.

Everybody got too splintered and eventually most people just gave up on it altogether.
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>>256996586
GW is pretty cool tho, my pc couldnt handle it and gave my account to my brother since his PC is like 10 times better than mine, but i still play it, specialy because the living world events are amazing.
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>>256996410
every update was shit and made it a little worse
it wasn't even a great game, but it was really, really enjoyable
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>>256996410

Old age, even with low rate private servers that were better than retail, it eventually died off
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>>256967342
I'm trying to understand what that last class is doing there.

Is it choosing items which will drop? I can see it dodging enemy attacks by registering them before they come out, but is it also summoning monsters into certain areas to fight? It looks pretty interesting, but I need to know what the fuck I am looking at.
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>>256996410
RO was extremely lucky with the timing of release and its 'unpolishedness', which made it special to a degree.

Instead of acknowledging that gravity got lucky, they convinced themselves that they were good designers, then changed ro several times over gradually making it worse, instead of understanding what made it good in the first place. Because they couldn't accept that they just got lucky in the beginning.

I think you can just compare RO as the George Lucas of videogames for a short version of the story.
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>>256997261
"Oracle" class that falls under Cleric >>256967474
It has the ability to tell you exactly what that monster will drop, and telegraphs monster attacks for the entire party.
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>>256996410
Private servers introduced F2P years before the officials, also with less P2W, so the playerbase spread thin over thousands of private servers with 100 players each.

Game community losts its coherency, GvG fags raised over PvE fags, then the bot fags ran rampart, then the hacker fags, then the crashing fags.
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>>256997279
WoE was pretty unique though, and also a reason why it lasted so long. A whole lot of people, on official and also private servers spent years just playing and prepping for WoE, and wouldn't log in for much else.
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>>256994587
Hey Must, I just wanted to say thanks for putting some content in these threads. The leaks were cool too, even if we didn't get much out of them.

I can't stand the constant shitposting on /v/ so I fucked off to /tg/ and other boards a long time ago but I come back here when big announcements get made, or ToS blog posts. It's nice to see someone on /v/ talking about video games once in a while
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God damn. Not a big surprise that faggots are derailing this thread with stupid drama shit about marketers/reddit/blablabla.

Let's just talk about the god damn game.

Which by the way, looks amazing. RO will always have a spot in my heart, and if ToS reinvigorates even a percent of that spot, I will be fucking happy.

We should just make a feels thread that games like RO are dead. D:
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How long do you guys think ToS will last before it dies?
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>>256998196
a few weeks
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>>256997971
>D:

Please don't be a faggot.
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>>256998196
a few months
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>>256997971
Which by the way, wanted to ask, can we expect a "full-support" combination of classes? I hate when games try to make the support classes able to solo. I know I can create the combination of classes to my liking, but I wonder if a full-support combination would be viable in this game. (as in, partying and mobbing is a valid way to grind)

I fucking love depending on someone to level. I have no idea why. I also love being depended on, like they need me to level that much more quickly. You make so many good friends that way too. You synchronize when to play..god damn I love being full support.
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>>256998196
Difficult to say at this point, but it looks unique enough to last a few years.

IMC's last game was Granado Espada from a few years ago, right? Wasn't it already shut down?
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>>256998196
6 months, the game will clearly come out without enough content to justify being subbed for more than 1-2 months, and WoEs will be ready several months too late when everyone already quit.
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>>256997771
that was the eventuality of it.

>want to play an RO private server
>start out as a level 1 novice
>eventually grind your way to a point where you need to party
>finally find a nice party that helps you reach max
>they become your best friends
>you join/make a guild together
>your guild slowly grows as you beat more and more MVPs
>people want to start doing WoE for glorious OCA and ygg berry
>you prep for your first WoE
>you get fucking ramshackled by the better guilds
>you eventually build your way up to taking that first castle
>you defend it constantly.
>WoE is your life. You sometimes don't come online except to grind for WoE prep. (slim white materials, full-chem protect stuff, movespeed food, +10 foods)
>you become the biggest guild on the server
>you eventually don't even log on anymore cause it's not fun cause you're unstoppable
>some guys are bored so they break off from you to try and break up the monotony
>guild eventually dies and everyone splits up

;__; some of the best times in my life are spend playing that damn game
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>>256979280
Are Monks going to be fist weapons again? The picture shows a monk with a hammer and shield. No bueno.
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>>256998536
What was the player base for RO (excluding private servers). It was like only a couple thousand wasn't it? If that happens, I am totally fucking okay with that. I am expecting a niche group to stick with the game (if it is good of course). And niche groups are kind of the strongest communities out there.
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>>256998743
no there was also like...every brazillian and phillippino known to man on every server. It also had a following in europe.
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>>256970613
>cryo
>not necro and hokor with wizard at the end
Im sorry, were you trying to farm? Was my ENTIRE ARMY blocking your way?
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>>256998743
RO had a pretty huge player base.
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>>256998743
Heavily depending on zone. US got 10k, EU got 3k, Korea got like 100k, Asia got a shitload as well.

Russia when it was supported got a lot later on.

Game definitely did worst in europe because all the nord european people, those who play games the most (except germany), hate anime shit since they are all extreme dudebros.
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>>256998650
There aren't any fist weapons.
I think I read somewhere that fighting unarmed is viable, don't quote me on that though.
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>>256971383
Can cast an AoE that informs you of the spells the mobs are going to cast
Can inspect for what items the mob will drop (not can)
Can "sheep" mobs to be attackless sandbags for easier farm
If i wasn't so set on going full Mob Army Necro, id try this out
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>>256999342
source on that gif? cute as fuck
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>>256999342
I honestly hope that they make some mobs sporadic enough that having an Oracle will be useful. Because I mean, otherwise you can just kind of figure out the patterns by fighting them long enough or watching videos, making that skill a little useless.

I get super anxious thinking about skill builds/ stat builds. If I do not feel like I am doing the "BEST" build out there, I start hating my character and myself. But there is a part of me that is excited to be on the frontier this time.
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>>256999337
>No fist weapons
I sure hope you were right about unarmed fighting being useful, otherwise pic related.
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>>256998475
my basketball american
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>>256999856
they won't have to, looks like oracles will be useful for building big mobs quickly so you don't have to walk the whole map
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>>256999863
Here's what I found from an older Q&A:

>Monk class belongs to Cleric type classes. Fist is used in skills, but separate knuckle item does not exist. Instead, it will apply the equipped item’s stats on its skills.
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>>256999856
Game revolves around you or a party grouping up mobs (thus the auto party and de-agg built in for higher levels) and beating them all down. Even if you learn the patterns, having some ADD oracle looking around for the 3 or 4 star drop is still a perk. and sheeping bosses (i hope) is never a bad thing.
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>>257000330
So that means I punch motherfuckers when using skills, but I'm still using weapons?

This is Trickster Online all over again.

>Bunny portrayed as a boxer in all arts
>Running around with a giant sword and shield
>Kickboxing every enemy with techniques
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>>256987493
It will have large-scale PvP.

GvG with possible faction elements, Castle Sieges and similar effects. They are looking into Royalist vs Republican factions, similar to Granado Espada. The Queen wants to control the remains of the Goddess and the Tree of Savior and become a diety herself, while the Republicans deem it too dangerous and want to destroy it so that everyone is equal.
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>>256998475
>I hate when games try to make the support classes able to solo
In the newest vid, take a look at the combat disparity between Highlander and Oracle. Highlander has an attack which hits multiple enemies, an attack which hits one enemy rapidly, and a knockback which hits multiples.

Oracle can hit one enemy with a hammer.

If mob difficulty is high enough to test a Highlander, I don't see how an Oracle is going to solo that same mob
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I want to be the most annoying class so I can do the closest thing to cyberspace rape, which is annoy other players.

I will never change my behavior until an MMO is created where players can rape one another and turn each other into rapeslaves.
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>>256999856
It'll be pretty hard to keep up with dozens of monsters attacking at once even if you know the patterns.
Oracles sound like they'll be amazing party members if you're farming for a while, especially if you're farming high leveled monsters. It's easy dodging so they'll save you a ton of potions.
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>>257001030
player skill
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>>257000481
This actually leaves me wondering something.

Will bosses be respawning in specific locations like in some MMO's, or will they be instances? Because if they are just instances, that means dungeon running and leaving if the boss has shit drops. It could make Oracles a near-necessity in all parties who want their super-epic-legendary-omgz-niggaton-tier loot.
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>>257001036
what happens if your rapeslave refuses to log in?
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>>256999856
Priests are full-support and unable to solo.

They are only used for Healing and Sanctuary-Type effects, the Sanctuaries do deal damage and debuff enemies but it is their only form of attack and is mainly used as an AoE-Heal and Buff.
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>>256996580
What are you talking about, dude? The good bugs still remain.
3-cell melee hits still work.
ice wall trapping still works
vertical firewall still works
insta casting still works
teleport hogging still works
moving chat room still works
vending-breaking still works


I have no clue what bugs you are referring to, unless you mean duping.
I kind of have a guess that you might be bitching about shield reflecting and star gladiator stunlocking, but that shit was bullshit and you know it.
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>>257000979
>no third faction that wants to revive the goddess using the tree
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>>256999893
What? Sorry I do not understand. >:
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Hoping the majority of people pick clerics so I can have 5 heal/buff slaves sucking my dick at once because of my high deeps.
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>>257001558
>Every faggoty DPSfag ever

I'm so glad there is such a wide variety of classes to use that the generic Assassin shitter will be about as useless as can be.
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>>257001432
"my nigga"
suport classes are best classes and support players are a gift from jesus
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>>257001230
more than likely it will be like RO. Where you crawled through uninstanced* (as in a set group in an isolated instance) dungeon until you got to the final floor where the boss would rape your shit unless you were overleveled or with a good party. Then there were the MVP's all around the open world too.
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>>257001230
I heard they were going to be like RO, meaning they spawn randomly in maps, including instanced-based bosses as well.
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>>257001241

Get more.
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>>257001831
but what good is a slave if you have no actual power over them?
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>>257001241
Rape more.
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>>257001558
Clerics aren't buff-slaves, they are used for healing. Their only form of buffing is in creating AoEs in which apply a HoT which also lowers the damage you take.

Pardoners create and sell/distribute buff-scrolls while have the effects that are generally associated with buffs, Chronomancers are specifically buff/debuff Magicians who work to maximize the DPS of their partner by doubling attack/movement speeds and reducing animations, the gypsy priests are all-debuff and reduce enemy damage/armor while applying DoTs. Clerics aren't Heal/Buff, they are only Heal.
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>>257001738
>>257001816
Oh man it's going to be fun to see oracle groups scanning each boss to see how useful/shit it is.

Support classes in this game seem incredibly fun all around. That's going to be one thing I can say this MMO seems to be doing better than any other.
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>>257001701
Of course bro! See look at this, already makin' bro friends with just the talk of full supporting. Good shit.
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>>257001976
Clerics have a haste buff.
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I hope swordsmen get to be supportfags too.

Centurions seem cool enough, cataphracts look like spear knights, but even better, and the chain and provoke shenanigans mean that they will probably be able to tank like in RO.
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>>257002448
All I hope for are some players using unique and interesting setups. I know that once the meta shows up, we're going to see flowchart "MUH BEST DPS SETUP" teams from wikifags, but until then, I hope people really start taking advantage of the huge varieties here.
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>>257002767
There will probably be a huge gap between beta, release and cookie cutter. Even in RO, new SinX and GX builds are vying for "best dps", and thats with concrete, unchangeable classes. Add the fact some 20 odd different classes, plus the independent stat points, and we'll see some variety
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>>257002293
Sorry, I misinterpreted the post.

Clerics are a basic class and have a multitude of abilities with no specialization.
Clerics -> Priests = Healing Specialization
Cleric -> Pardoner = Buff Specialization
Cleric -> Thaumaturge = Buff/Debuffing Support
Cleric -> [Gypsy whose name I forgot but was mentioned earler] = Debuff Specialization

Magician -> Chronomancer = Time-Based Support Effects
Magician -> Linker = Buff/Debuff sharing

Clerics have a slight haste buff, which all Cleric-Types can use, but Pardoners and Thaumaturges are the main buffers of the game, while Chronomancers specialize in Hasting Allies significantly.
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>>257001976
Threw this together for you
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Gonna roll Bokor because I have missed undead minion spam from Diablo 2. Only game in a fucking decade that has even tried to use it again.
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>>257002767
I would not mind a dynamic system like LoL is. I mean, there are unprecedented ways to play a class that ends up making it the best. Like a "flavor" of the month type of thing. That would cause for a very dynamic community of classes, because if a new flavor of the month shows, people are not just going to remake their class, so you will end with very varied customizations.
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>>257003275
Bro, join me. Roll Necro->Bokor-> Wizard for the unstoppable army. We'll have an ocean of the undead by level 45
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>>257003302
I'd rather they do it precisely like they did in RO.

No class is "Best for the job". Every class is hilariously OP for one reason or another. If you find the best way to abuse your class, you are back into OP territory. If you aren't good enough at abusing it, you're into meh/10 territory, no matter who you are. Even with your DPS checklisting, you will get raped if you are poor at abusing your shit to the fullest.
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>>257001976
I was referring to the cleric branch as a whole, not "clerics" when I said I hope people pick clerics. Pardoners and such are still clerics right?
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>>257003529
>Mass-Bokor guild
>Everybody amassing a retardedly oversized army of the dead
>Reach boss
>Shit becomes Windows Media Player with legions of zombies
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>>256967881
>the last mmo
THIS. I told myself that I was done with MMOs forever after the crushing disappointment that was Archeage... but if ToS captures even a fraction of the joys I experienced in RO, I can't help it. I have to try it out.
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>>257003917
>badly coded
>server crashes
>skills get nerfed
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>>257003617
I kind of dig that idea too mate. Can you give some specific examples from RO with what you are talking about? I like to nostalgia all over.

Also, it is hard to relate to RO, because you can branch into so many different classes, AND you can even choose to level a class repeatedly. Very interesting.
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>>257003617
>mfw my bro made a crusader build based solely on the SL buff to wreck huntards
>it worked
>could kill 5 at once without potions while they spammed theirs
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>>257003081
Don't forget the Dievdirbys.

Dievdirbiai place Statues and Idols on the battlefield, which increase the stats and effectiveness of teammates for as long as the statue remains standing.

The Statues are used as Warp-Points and allow for team-mates to warp from map to map or from location to location, and can be desecrated to debuff enemies.
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>>257003149
He thought Cleric = Priest.

Priests don't buff, they heal and their only buffs come from Cleric.
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>>257004068
i dunno about the coding part, vids show at least 30 odd zombies working effectively with the bokor.
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>>257004219
I'm really curious about that teleporting statue.
Does it go both ways? Does it only teleport you to towns?
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>>257004154
>Can you give some specific examples from RO with what you are talking about?

Champion combos and Guillotine Fist were the reason I was able to survive WoE longer than almost everybody I fought against. The amount of damage was obscene. Balance wasn't even going to change it without some balls-up retarded nerfs.

Then again, it didn't make me invincible. Smart-tanking Crusaders crushed my shit because they knew what to look out for. Assassins stunning me led me to impossible wins because of the way they fought. But it's not something that was a guaranteed thing, because everybody was overpowered. If you sucked at using your class, you got fucked. Simple as that. If you were great at using them, EVERYBODY ELSE got fucked.
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>>257004560
As long as the statue remains standing, players can warp to it by interacting with it's twin.

They can be placed and used anywhere, but it doesn't work if one of the statues gets destroyed.

Essentially, you place one statue in a secluded area for team-mates or your guild that is easily accessed, then you sneak and place it's corresponding twin somewhere you need to warp to but that won't be seen. Then you can teleport freely between the areas for as long as the statue is still standing.
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>>257004476
these things go exponential in mmos. the problem isn't having a lot of stuff, the problem is keeping a lot of stuff consistent for everyone on the screen.
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>>257004179
What buff, are you talking about the link or kaahi?
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>>257004836
There had better be fucking WoE for this, I swear to GOD.

>Heading over to enemy spawns with teletotems
>Making entry points to flood their areas with allies
>While they struggle to break the teleport statue, allies intercept them and keep our pressure going
>Nearly unbreakable wave of dudes forcing them down until they get lucky with snapping apart a totem
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>>257004907
true, but if TERA can handle nexus (relatively), i think the mass zombies can work decently well. Now if you have some 10 odd bokor/Necro's with a 100-200 zombie army, then you're just stress testing the fun
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>>257005340
It shouldn't be hard.

The game works off a modified Granado Espada engine. Granado Espada was developed to handle hundreds of players on the screen at a time, as each player controlled 3 characters at a time and some characters had the ability to summon 20~30 allies at a time.

If a game that is 8 years old can handle 500+ characters on the screen, with bones and 3-D models and a shit-load of particle effects, then a game that is going to come out soon using Sprites can surely handle 300 zombies at once.
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>>257000678
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>>257005645
>Good_luck_I'm_behind_9000_Zombies.webm

I will definitely enjoy zombie-spam with friends.
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>>257005645
>with bones and 3-D models and a shit-load of particle effects, then a game that is going to come out soon using Sprites can surely handle 300 zombies at once.
That's not relevant, as it's what the client does.
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>>257005057
the link, shield tossing all day
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Apparently there's a housing system called Barracks where players can visit and leave messages.
You can spend money to expand your Barracks so more people can fit in.
The Barracks are also linked to character creation, the bigger your Barracks the more characters you can create.
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>>257007131
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>>257007131
Gonna need WAY more details than that.
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>>257007131
you forgot to mention your pets take character slots
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>>257007283
That looks comfy as fuck, no way am I upgrading to the castle above
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If weapons aren't class restricted, is armor class restricted?

I assume there will be some difference like plate gives +armor and robes give +mana, but could an oracle wear plate armor if she wanted?
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>>257007356
I just found out about this. The website is weird and won't let you view earlier blogs (or I'm too stupid to figure out how), so you pretty much have to google "tree of savior blog #1" or something to find them.
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>>257007775
It looks like the archer in >>257007283 is wearing plate armor with cosmetics that look more fitting of an archer.
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>>257007796
There are page buttons at the bottom of the blog, chief
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>>257007950
Shit I'm retarded, never noticed the weapon. I just assumed it was an archer because of the hat.
My point still stands though.
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>>257007950
Ah, I hadn't noticed that. I hope that doesn't lead to everyone wearing the same armor...

Though since it's not cosmetic I'm not sure how much that matters anyway
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>mfw its not going to be f2p
How the fuck can I play international then if I'm not in fatland or yurop? I honestly wouldn't mind subscription based but they only work regionally and not globally.
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>>257008517
BR?
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>>257008517
You pay them with your Dingo Dollars using conversion.
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>>257008654
Nah. SEA.

Also I'm guessing we'll have the usual NA, EU, SEA in parallel with subscription based payments.
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>>257008818

Dirty pinoys should't be allowed to play either.
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>>257008761
That's gonna be messy as fuck holy shit.
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Private servers when?
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Are you guys going to be doing non essential quests or will you just be grinding your hearts out?
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All girls with bunny ears are sluts who want to be raped.
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>>257009068
Yeah that's what I thought. I SEA gets its own version.
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>>257009331
hopefully never. this game will have a rather small player base, at least outside of asia. look what private servers did to RO. a thousand servers with 100 players avg.
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>>257009363
Crafting!
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>>257009592

Private servers are the only thing keeping RO alive since like 2006.
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>>257009850
Yeah, outside Korea that is.
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>>257009740
Alchemy can take hours, confirmed in today's blog.
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>>257009850
>mmo server gets leaked and later rewritten
>players leave for free private servers
>officials lose large chunks of players
>mass of private servers with too small player bases to make them last long
>private servers start and die in a matter of weeks
>somehow they kept the game alive
Do you see your mistake? Private servers killed it.
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>>257009363
Depending on which class I do, it's going to be either aggressively mastering the art of necromancy/zombie summonan, gathering boss cards for that sorcerer/sorceress class, or becoming the best mounted hero there is.
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>>257010174
I know! It's great, I love a challenge.
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What's the deal with switching classes in this game?
Does it cost anything? How do you do it? Is it similar to Eden Eternal where there's a 20 second cooldown?
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>>257010274
to be fair, gravity making stupid "balance" decisions would have killed it sooner without private servers
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>>257010274
This. Private servers were just unstable means of escaping the cash shops with cash shops. Also the elitists faggots in /rog/ love the shit out of it and spites anyone who doesn't. Fuckers are even shunning iRO.
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>>257010274

But that wasn't that happened.

iRO went full retard cash shop mode extremely early, which alienated many.

euRO was just outright closed even though it was a good server without cash shop.

All the other "official" servers were unplayable garbage and obvious cash grabs.


You can blame obvious bad business decisions, also, private servers at that time were barely playable to begin with.
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>>257010535
gravity made enough stupid decisions, most of which carried over to privates (up to renewal, which was mostly a failure). people still continued to play the game. i'm not saying that the game would still be going strong without private servers, but saying that they had any benefit is just ridiculous.
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>>257010495
As I understand it, once you've unlocked a class, you can mix and match any of that class's skills and costumes with other classes you've unlocked. Skills still need to be unlocked and I'm not sure how many skills you can have equipped at any one time.

You are locked into one of the 4 starting classes (warrior, archer, priest, mage I think) and each class resulting from that, however.

Not 100% sure about mixing skills, though I know you can switch classes and costumes
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>>257010924
Oh, and to answer your question: I think the currently-selected class is the one your XP goes toward leveling up
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>>257010834
i don't know when iro introduced cash shops, but show me one private server that was ever worth investing real time into, that didn't come with "donations" (which is exactly the same as a cash shop)
when euRO was closed, private servers were extremely popular for YEARS.

what i wrote is exactly what happened.
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>candle spiders
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>>257010439
How is sitting in one spot and waiting a challenge?
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>>257010274
>not bots
>not neverending grind
>not cashgrab tactics

yea sure
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>>257011212

Just as pservers weren't worth your time, so wasn't iRO, yet people still wanted to play. The choice in this case is obvious, the free one.

After all, the p2w that iRO introduced is rivaled only by the shittiest of the pservers.
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>reading the blog about language options
>every single comment is "PORTUGUESE-BRAZIL!"
They're coming.
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fuck this shit
im going to play a RO private server
as gunslinger
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>>257011918
>the free one is worth your time
>the free one that stays online for a month
>or the free one that stays online for a long time, but is entirely p2w
great options
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>>257012645
I pray they simply say "Nah, no portugal/BR plans. We'll worry about you later"
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>>257011806
They said that you can do the alchemizing part while idle.

The challenge is in finding alchemy ingredients, playing the market, and dealing with a class nobody else will want
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>>257012645
This is why P2P is a great idea

It swats 90% of the BR horde.
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>>257012726

Isn't the today's state of MMO's just great?

There's literally nothing playable and so people still seek RO pservers.


Thanks capitalism.
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>the game hasn't even been launched
>people wanting pservers right off the bat
Disgusting filth.
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Where did you guys hear it is going to be P2P? The tripfag early doesn't count as he as saying a lot of bullshit
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>>257014467
only one person said that, the rest was about whether or not pservers killed off RO
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>>257014467

We want pservers because the game is going to be f2p.
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>>257014696
Dunno. Frankly I wouldn't mind a p2p if its region locked.
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>>256968557
>Sadhu
>Dievdirbys
>Rodelero
>Pletast
>Wugushi
>Bokor

insteresting class names

Is there a class that uses guns?
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>>257015246
Not known yet, probably no
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>>257014907
Pserver fags are really, really disgusting.
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>>257015356

aw. I liked using Gunslingers in RO. I don't think the Rebel class ever came out though
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>>257015442
It did in Korea, where MMOs actually matter.
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>>256998475
Goddamn, this makes me remember when I got the idea of making a full support paladin in RO. I was relying on a high wizard for level up shenanigans and we had practically ra_san01 on lockdown with me kiting pretty much either the whole east wing or west wing mobs to a pile for her to AOE them all down...good times.
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>>257015865
and it is an absolute joke of a class anyway. A fucking Gypsy has better DPS than them. There is no reason to roll one.
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>>257017671
>there is no reason to roll one
Except there is. To role play as a gunslinger.
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>>256999342
sauce?
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>>257006198
So, moderate agi high vit high str moderate int?
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>>257018301
i can't remember mainly because it was his character, but i don't think you needed agi at all, the link removes delay from the shield so you spam like crazy
just focus on damage and put a some vit, paladin skills are enough to hold arrows easily
you also needed specific shields (there were 2 or 3 worth it, one for weight and one that buffed that skill in particular)
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International Version, when?
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>>257015246
i can find the real-world basis for all these classes except the wugushi

anyone know what it's based on?
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>>257018301
>>257018871
yeah i just asked him, the link removes shield boomerang's delay and made it never miss, and maybe increased damage?
full str and some vit and agi, you barely need any dex because you'll never miss
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>>257018871
I have a linker around and luckily in iRO, skill resets for linkers are free and unlimited. I have never rolled a sadder.. I'm more of a PVM guy but I wanna kill one just to make some 500 flee 90 pd faggot gx cry bitch tears.
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>>257019121
>In Chinese letters, Wugushi is written ???. Developers were inspired by a tribe that specialized in making and using poisons
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>>257001558
Good luck with that fag. There's 10 faggot DPS for 1 cleric like every other game. You'll have to suck my toes for a heal.
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That ass.
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>>257010019
>outside Japan
Fixed that for you. RO only survived so long because of fapan
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>>257021768

clearly she wants to be drugged and brutally gangraped
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>>256999342
ok i did some searchan
sauce

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UU9-xCw414cWQRYRqq8N-cPw&v=TQT3I10I73g&feature=player_detailpage#t=654

their tumblers:
http://dreaming-for-wonderlandd.tumblr.com
http://dreaming-for-wonderlandd.tumblr.com/
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>>257021768
>scrawny chicken legs
>stupid hair
>dead fish eyes
>uses a tool as a weapon

0/10 Wouldn't fap.
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>>257022475
the cute bit is at 10:55

http://myworldupsidedown7.tumblr.com
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>>257022475
I wish I was a cute lesbian with a cute lesbian girlfriend.
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>>257019479
i can see mixing wugushi with alchemist, along with the pardoner(scroll maker) for absolute poison jew mode
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>>257022607
>scrawny chicken legs

Sorry that she's not fat like you want, anon.
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Love the art of ToS but goddamn the soundtrack is as generic and lame as it gets.
What a shame.
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>>257021768
It is wrong that i drooled over the hammer instead of the girl?
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>>257025084
how's she holding that hammer? i see no grip
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>>257024997
simple solution, take the audio tracks out, and insert the RO soundtracks in. 95% chance theyll sync up perfectly
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>>257025515
http://youtu.be/u4Mwrln3LYs
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>>257025721
i was expecting muay thai king, but i'll accept it
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>>257025721
Wub wub, gotta kill those Gieraths
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>>257022607
>not fapping to glorious dead fish eyes
What a pleb.
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