So when are we going to see any of them localized?

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Stop these threads.

Never.

>>256827114
At the rate it seems to be going and given how Square-Enix is ignoring anything Dragon Quest related for the west beyond mobile phone ports, probably never.

>>256827114
Never.

>>256827114
Never ever ever

Never

ever

>>256827658
>Dargon Quest
Fix that for you

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Never

2016

Dragon Quest is old and busted.

Its all about Dargon Quest now.

Does the IOS port of Dargon Quest 4 has party chat?

>>256828586
Yes

>>256828745
Fuck yes when is it coming to android so I can pirate it?

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>>256827658
>Square lazily ports DS ports of Dragon Quest games to the iphone
>"What do you mean you aren't interested in a $20 port of an 8 year old port of a 22 year old game? I guess that means America doesn't like Dragon Quest. Hiroshi-san, throw that Dragon Quest 7 localization in the trash"!
>"HAI!"

>>256828862
never

What's with this Dargon Quest thing. What did I miss?

>>256828996
>"Oh they seem to love out iOS ports! Quick stop the Dragon Quest 7 localization so we can give them more iOS because they seem to can't get enough of it."

I still have some hope for VII. X and both Monsters games are all but hopeless now. Rocket Slime 3 would probably need a miracle.

If there's no DQ localization related news by the end of the year, I'd say it's time to panic. Knowing SE, they wont even put the original GBC DQ games on the Virtual Console.

>>256828862
http://www42.zippyshare.com/v/89985349/file.html

Enjoy

>>256829260
When SE ported DQ4 to iOS they titled it "Dargon Quest" Show how much they care about the series over here.

>>256828996
>>256829354
It's a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation, and I'm pretty sure Square -Enix fucking knows it. If the iPorts don't sell well, Dragon Quest is completely dead in the west. If they do sell well, it just means even more low effort iPorts. Anything to keep from having actually localize and make prints of new games on actual video game systems. Because that would take effort/money that could be devoted to localizing new Final Fantasy games and the like instead.

>>256829501
Wow.

squeenix a shit

>>256827114
Right afret Yakuza 5.

>>256829408
Considering Japan got that Dragon Quest Anniversary thing on the Wii, they may not see reason to put the GBC games up on the VC when people out there can just play the Wii disc on the WiiU, or something. Or did you mean for the 3DS VC shop instead?

>>256829756
It's really annoying since they love talking about every one of their series. Except Dragon Quest. It's like they really do try to bury the series while no one is looking.
>>256829408
None of the Dragon Quest games are on VC. Hell Dragon Warrior VII isn't on PSN. They refuse to even give us fucking ROMs.

Seriously what was the fucking point of this merger? Was Enix in dire straits? I know their team is significantly smaller to Square but shouldn't they have a say when it comes to their own franchise? You'd think after Spirits Within Enix would have stayed the fuck away from them, and instead Square gets to cash-in on their successes.

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>>256829756
It's not fair.

>>256830528
>The original Square Enix was formed as the result of a merger between Square and Enix. The merger occurred on April 1, 2003 with Enix as the surviving company. Each share of Square's common stock was exchanged for 0.85 shares of Enix's common stock. At the time, 80% of Square Enix staff were made up of former Square Co. employees. As part of the merger, former Square president Yoichi Wada was appointed president of the new corporation, while former Enix president Keiji Honda became its vice president. The founder of Enix, Yasuhiro Fukushima, currently serves as the honorary chairman and largest shareholder of the corporation.

>>256830062
Always did strike me as silly DQ VIII never saw a PSN version (though it's not as if it's expensive or hard to find the PS2 version), yet Square-Enix was more than happy to localize the mobile phone port.

As for Dragon Quest VII, it might be a similar case to Namco, in that neither of the PS1 Tales games we got have seen a PSN release (though I don't think Destiny or Eternia saw a PSN release in Japan either), possibly due to low sales. At least Namco's gotten better about localizing that series, while meanwhile SE has gotten worse regarding Dragon Quest.

>>256830892
>As part of the merger, former Square president Yoichi Wada was appointed president of the new corporation, while former Enix president Keiji Honda became its vice president
Why did they think letting Wada be president was a good idea?

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>>256830528
The point was 2 folds. One was more capital for their games. You seen it with DQ8, 9, and even an MMO. Enix most likely couldn't do those games without the merger in my opinion. They took the money and used it well. Another reason was a bigger hand in the west. They never really had a big enough grasp in the west to market their games. They might have done well if they kept handing the publishing to Nintendo in the NES era but it's kind of too late for that. But it seem Square turned their backs on that since the only one they even tried to market was 8 and that sold half a million which was the best selling Dragon Quest to date. And if they kept the marketing going it could have done well. But they just stopped. Hell DQ4 and 5 had one page in Nintendo Power and that was it.

>>256830896
How much money is it to get a game on PSN or VC. It's just annoying to see them not even trying to give us anything Dragon Quest outside iOS shit.

>>256831396
They just wanted DQ money to continue to fund FF.

>>256831640
Not sure. But it's more money than Square-Enix is apparently willing to spend on Dragon Quest. Not when they can try to get more sales out of the mobile market.

>>256831710
We all know that but they could release them over here and make more money to fund FF games.

You missed Joker 2 Professional.

>>256832059
I just wish they had the fucking balls to just say "we are not releasing DQ" and not just be so quiet over it.

>>256831396
I honestly think Square was mad jelly that another company could release a popular RPG series, and they would have just buried them through the merger if they didn't bring in so much dosh in Japan. Do they not bring it to the west because they'd rather not have people realize that Dragon Quest is better than their current FF games than just getting more money? Why doesn't Nintendo foot the publishing bill like they had with the more recent western releases? We wouldn't have even gotten Bravely Default if it wasn't for Nintendo.

>>256832261
That made no fucking sense. Not only did they delay the game but we got the worse version. Also since it was brought over after the 3DS was out no one was paying attention to it.

>>256832385
I really hope Square Enix is working with Nintendo to bring over Dragon Quest. Because Nintendo seem to fucking care about the series more so than them.

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Should have bought the Dragon Quest VIII port on iOS you stupid gaijin!

Now here at Square Enix we all know the west doesn't care about DQ, enjoy your Lightning

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>>256832650
I sure hope so.

>>256832297
Probably since by saying fuck all on the issue, fans are depressed but still hopeful, and might still buy their other products in hopes of eventually seeing at least DQ VII 3DS. Confirming they have absolutely zero interest would likely just cause fan outrage out here and possibly cause a loss in sales of their other products.

>>256832830
Someone asked Reggie about Dragon Quest at E3. And all he said was "No news but I still love Dragon Quest." No fuck you and give us some fucking answers.

>>256832802
>Square using DQ to fund Waifu Fantasy.
What happened Square? You used to be cool.

>>256832904
Maybe but it piss me off more that they refuse to say anything outside of a random facebook message "HERE'S DRAGON QUEST IV ON iOS!" And that's it.

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The IP block on this is gone, so you're free to play it.
Also if you want to pay for a sub, the foreign card block is also gone.

>>256833112
>HERE'S DARGON QUEST IV ON iOS!
fixed that for you

>>256827114
When Nintendo decides to demand SE let them publish them.

Seriously, we never would have gotten Bravely Default if the retards running SE had anything to do with it.

>>256833046
Ever since the merger Dragon Quest has been the one thing that have always been making money. Square side on the other hand is always iffy. But for some reason the shareholders keep giving the power to Square all the fucking time.

>>256832942
What is suppose to say?

>as a PR guy of this company, I can GUARANTEE this OTHER company will do this thing

It's out of Nintendo's hands if Squenix wants to localize their shit or not.

>>256833219
Is there a fan translation like with PSO2?
>>256833276
Nintendo seem to know how to run other companies better than they do. Not saying Nintendo knows how to really run their business but still.

i hate SE so fucking much. i just want a pure, fun, simple rpg.

fuck your shitty waifu and your boys that look like girls.

>>256833367
I wish they stop beating around the bush and say they would love to but SE isn't letting us. Or something like that.

>>256833046
The sad thing is comparing Squaresoft and Early Square-Enix to present Square-Enix. Back then, they had a good amount of franchises (Final Fantasy, World of Mana, SaGa, Chrono, Front Mission, etc) as well as a fair amount of stand alone titles (Xenogears, BFM, Threads of Fate, Radiata Stories, etc), and while not everything made it west, they were still willing to bring a decent amount of stuff over (to the US anyway; Europe and PAL got the shaft at times, and as far as I know still haven't gotten Xenogears out there). These days, regarding the west, they just seem to care about Final Fantasy (and Final Fantasy related games like Bravely Default), Kingdom Hearts, publishing for western games, and pissing off Dragon Quest fans by ignoring the newer games and just shitting out mobile ports of the older ones instead. And even in Japan, some of their older series like SaGa or the Mana games were either dead or mobile only for the foreseeable future last time I checked.

>>256833321
Not sure what you expect him to say. Square clearly doesn't want to localize them and they probably are having issues negotiating publishing rights for the game with Nintendo in the west. They probably didn't make as much money with Bravely Default as they would have liked since Nintendo published so they're pushing for a better deal with DQ but considering past sales of the series Nintendo probably isn't willing to give them a better deal.

As long as there's a DQ thread up, I've got a question. I've seen the DS version of DQVI sitting around at my local vidya store and I was wondering if it's worth picking up. Only other DQ game I've played is IX which I didn't really enjoy.

>>256833493
Nah, but there is a forum dedicated to it.
I think translation will finally start up due to the IP block being removed.
I would do it myself if I knew how to computer good.

>>256833602
If Bravely Second sells well, maybe we'll localize a DQ game, goy! Don't like the effeminate characters and retarded story? Too fucking bad.

>>256833804
All the DS remakes are worth picking up.

>>256833804
As far as I know VI is a good game in general, but not as good as a fair amount of other Dragon Quest games. If it's at a cheap price you might want to consider it.

If you see V DS at a reasonable price (IE: NOT $45+ complete), I'd say pick that one up as well, since V is something of a fan favorite.

>>256834302
Yeah, online V is going for way too goddamn much. Like 50 loose.

I know FUCKIng GAMESTOP sell them at actual reasonable prices but good luck finding it there. They're already phasing out original DS.

>>256833775
If Nintendo said "We are still in negotiations." it would be great. Or if they said "out of our hands you have to talk to SE" and they did and they finally answered great. I just hate how everyone is so quiet over it. Like if anyone even mentions it to any of the two they both clam up.
>>256833772
Ever since the bomb that is Spirits Within Square lost a lot of money. And so they have been struggling to recapture their golden years. But they seem to be so narrow minded with FF they completely forgot their other fun titles.
>>256833804
DS of IV has problems in my opinion. Party Chat being gone really feels like you are missing half a conversation in my mind. And the accents get really annoying really fast. Since accents are never meant to be read. So you see half the word missing to convey the accents and it makes it hard to read. Still fun just that is my problem.
DS of V still has some accents but not as heavy as IV plus the Party Chat is there.
VI has a really good localization in my opinion but VI is also the black sheep of the Dragon Quest family. Where it's not bad but after 3, 4, and 5 it feels really meh compare to the past games. Still a fun adventure however.

>>256833836
Now my only problem is payment. I guess I will have to buy a Japanese visa gift card and use that.
>>256834651
Don't forget how they just sell the cart. They throw out everything because who the fuck needs a manual and box.

>>256833940
>Bravely Second
>effeminate characters
isn't the main character actually female in that

>>256834651
They trashed the bulk of their DS cases and manuals months back, so fat chance finding them complete there.

On that note, I know a local store where I live that stocks IV and V DS for $13 and $22 complete respectively and usually sit on the shelf for a few days. Yet when they show up at another store out here for $45+ each, they sell ridiculously fast. Granted, while that second store does seem to try to cater to hipsters with too much money, thus having fairly high prices on anything worth buying (they want a good $70 or so for Xenosaga Episode III, for example), it's like people don't know there's other stores with better prices out here.

>>256834991
I just hope because of SE talk about how happy they are with Bravely Default they would be more willing to bring over Dragon Quest. I mean DQIX sold over a million in just the west which was pretty fucking good.

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Man if you keep this up you'll overdose from Can't Have!

>>256834948
>>256835113
Yeah, wasn't trying to imply you can get it complete at GS. But cart alone its the cheapest option outside scavenging mom and pop shops.

>>256835361
But it's too good not to talk about.

>>256835209
The success of Bravely just had them talking about making yearly releases.

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>>256835445

Then I guess I'll have continue as normal.

>>256834948
It doesn't have to be a Japanese card, you can use foreign ones.

>>256835408
I was lucky to get my copy of IV for $15 complete and V for $30 both used. V was understandable since it just came out at that time and I couldn't find a new copy.

Nintendo made a shit ton of copies of VI unlike SE with IV and V.

>>256835408
The thing with the main series DS games is that IV and V DS got shortprinted and suffered from a really low amount of marketing (Square-Enix even bitched about sales of V DS when the shortprint sold out), and as such are a lot more expensive. VI and IX DS had Nintendo handle the printing or something, and as such are generally much more available.

>>256835361
How did Japan react to DQVIII? Did they like it?

>>256835581
I know. But I was just really annoyed at that statement because we all know they didn't really mean changing the way they work.
>>256835604
Why? Doesn't it hurt you just as much?
>>256835620
I just never did it before so I have no idea how to pay for it. And until there's a fan translation I don't really want to pay for a game I can't really read.

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>>256835897
The only way I can lessen my own suffering is to spread to everyone else.

>>256835696
They liked it. From what I've heard they enjoyed some of the older games but they still really loved it. Just go on Japanese fan art sites and you will see a lot of DQ VIII stuff. Or do you mean 7 since that's what the image was for.

Where can I get dqx pc version

>>256836059
That's just pure evil.

>>256836152
Oops, yeah, I meant 7

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>>256836323

I have no other choice. I'm sorry

>>256836360
Well it's the best selling Dragon Quest game outside of 9. If you mean their feelings towards the 3DS version they still really love it.

>>256835209
The issue is that Square-Enix seems to like to pick and choose just what "successful" means to them. They'll praise something like Bravely Default's sales (possibly just because it's related to Final Fantasy), but state that over a million worldwide sales of something like Chrono Trigger DS (a port of a game a lot of people have likely emulated or bought the VC/PSN port of the SNES version already; honestly a million sales in light of that doesn't seem bad) isn't enough to warrant continuing the series.

>>256836441
You do have one and that's not post. Did you email SE about it?

Don't forget they are making a new Monsters game.

http://www.siliconera.com/2014/08/04/new-dragon-quest-monsters-game-production-says-square-enix/

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>>256836563

I remember leaving a message on one SE's employee blog about games people would want to see. DQ games were mentioned quite a lot there.

>>256836521
Reminds me how the Tomb Raider reboot sold really well but according to SE it didn't meet their sale expectations. The company is run by fucking morons

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>>256836871

Yeah we'll have to stick on the box arts for the 3DS version of DQX on here as well.

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>>256829962
feels bad, man

>>256836982
With Tomb Raider I think the issue was that they poured so much into marketing that even 3.5 million sales (at the time they were bitching about it) is deemed a failure to make a profit. Reminds me that some generations back, a game even getting a million sales was considered fucking great.

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And that's it from me.

>>256836982
The problem is that they needed like 6 million copies sold to break even. Which isn't what is needed with Dragon Quest. They already made money in Japan. All that is needed is to localize it and they would see just profit. Hell give it to Nintendo and they wouldn't have to worry about any money lose from it.
>>256837045
Oh...goody.

>>256836904
Oh yeah Phill something of SE of Europe made a blog and 90% of the questions where DQ related. He never did respond back to it.

>>256837507
Had fun stabbing me over and over again?

>>256838062
It honestly makes me wonder if Square-Enix has sent something out telling "journalists" and their own western branches to not bother with asking or (in the case of the latter) answering questions about console and handheld Dragon Quest releases, as if they think that by no one discussing it, people will just plain forget they even have new console/handheld games in the series that haven't been localized.

all I want is rocket slime localization

>>256838205

If it's any consolation I was also stabbed over and over again

>>256838542
Wouldn't put it past them. I mean Reggie was asked about it but no one seem to ask SE about it. And that makes little sense since SE owns Dragon Quest.

>>256838675
That doesn't make me happy. I rather no one be stabbed.

>DQM was my first dragon quest, fell in love with it
>DQ 3 was my first of the main series, really loved that too.
>Over the years, bought the DS remakes of 4, 5, and 6. Got to enjoy them too
>Eagerly awaited a remake of 7, ecstatic when it was announced.
>...

>>256838810
Honestly seems that with some companies, low sales (given how Square-Enix on their own pretty much refuses to market the series out here) might as well be no sales, rather than a nice bonus on top of local ones.

The funny thing is that it's not impossible to market a niche game effectively, have reasonable sales expectations, and still make a nice profit (at least enough to keep on localizing). With Square-Enix though, they don't market Dragon Quest, have too high of expectations (though now they seem to just expect handheld/console entries to fail if they brought them over), haven't done a lot to cultivate a fanbase, and at times seem to go out of their way to fuck their own games over, like shortprinting V apparently just to complain about sales when that was their own damn fault.

They don't want any competition with Final Fantasy 13 57346369876: Why Lightning Won't Go The Fuck Away.

>>256839816
It really bullshit how they mishandled DQ these past 10 years. At really did seem to do alright with 8 but after that just stopped. DQ IV had a lazy localization to a point where they took out Party Chat. And only one page ad in Nintendo Power. I can't think of anything else they did for that. And V which had a better localization with Party Chat I think still only had one page in Nintendo Power and also short printing the copies.

They seem to try to kill it. Or at least feel a series should always stand on it's own without any marketing. Except if it's FF which they market the fuck out of it.

Blame SHITendo's region locking.

>>256839816
>shortprinting V

I remember that. It was a bitch to get a hold of, which is a shame, because I think it was the best of 4-6

>>256840504
Even if it was Region free not everyone can read Japanese. Yeah it's fucking stupid but I still would like it if they showed some fucking care for their own series over here. And not just a shitty iOS port of "Dargon Quest"
>>256840531
They didn't even make more after the prints ran out. They just saw it run out and bitched about how the sales were too low.

>>256841008
You'd think selling out would imply there was interest.

Sadly, I have doubts that I'll ever get to play VII , or X, or the remake of monsters, my first foray into the series and its spin offs...

>>256841008
As far as I know they did eventually reprint it, but they did so without fanfare and were generally silent about it, as if they knew they could make more money off it but still needed the illusion that the game flopped out here.

>>256841426
I still have hope for VII but I do feel the spin offs are no go. Which is sad because I never played the Monsters games and felt the Joker series wasn't really great. But heard from everyone that Monsters series is way better than Joker.

>>256841426
>Only print about 350k copies for the west.
>Game sells out since fans have long been wanting an actual release of DQ V.
>Square-Enix expresses disappointment at it having only sold that many, as if they expected the copies sold to far exceed copies produced.

>>256841516
Did they? I didn't hear about that. But really I'm not surprised they could keep it hush hush.

How is there no way we can do anything about this? I hate feeling this powerless.

>>256842012
How dare we only buy the number of copies they hand out.

>>256838565
>Rocket Slime GBA fan translation still stuck at 55%; no official update since 2008.
Pretty sure the only one that will ever be in English is the DS one, considering Square-Enix won't localize a spin off game like Rocket Slime 3, let alone even a main series game like Dragon Quest VII 3DS.

HOLY SHIT THERE WAS A SEQUEL TO ROCKET SLIME?!!??!!??!?!?

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>>256830062
>It's like they really do try to bury the series while no one is looking.
Akira Toriyama has memory issues and will soon be dead, that's why.
;_;

>>256842416
Actually the DS is a sequel. GBA was the first.
>>256842146
I'm with you. I wish we could somehow just have someone at SE answer questions so we can ask them about Dragon Quest. No one over there is willing and no one on the journalist end is willing to talk to them. It feels like we are forced to question them. But there is no way for us to talk to them.

>>256842068
Either way, the used price went down for a while. Heard it used to be a good $80 or so since demand far outstripped supply. And then Gamestop trashing their DS cases and manuals have since caused the price for complete copies to go back up a fair amount.

>>256842610
Isn't he also going blind? Really fucking sucks since I still love Dragon Ball. Not a big fan of Z however.

>>256842795
>Actually the DS is a sequel. GBA was the first.
Are you serious? Holy shit man, I fucking bought that game on a whim for an ex girlfriend and kept it for myself.

>>256842864
Seriously fuck you GS. I fucking hate them with a passion.

>>256843084
It's a really fucking good game. I spent more hours than I should count collecting a bunch of every enemy so there's a nice statue of them. Also in the 3DS there's pirate ship battles instead of normal tank battles.

>>256843254
But it's only in Japanese? :(

>>256843551
Yep ;_;
I really hate SE. I really fucking do.

>>256843551
Same with the GBA version, which at least has a fan translation in the works (only issue is it hasn't seen progress in a long time, and as far as I know the GBA is a bit hard to code translation patches for; character/line limitations or something due to how the game is original coded, and there's only been a handful of completed GBA fan translation patches).

DS game is probably the only one the west will get to play in English.

>>256843747
Will we ever get it?

>>256843921
If there is a fan translation of it. And it seem like that is the same for the other Dragon Quest games. Just keep hating SE because they are doing this to us.

How many of you have signed the petitions?

>>256844206
Even still that doesn't give me a copy on my 3ds that I can read unless I get myself a gateway

>>256844565
I have. Not sure how much good it will do though. Think the most we can hope for is that it simply gets more people asking questions (only for Square-Enix to ignore or dodge them though).

>>256844565
I was one of the firsts. I was part of the original group that went out and e-mailed some of the sites. Sadly they weren't much help.
>>256844628
Trust me I'm as annoyed at SE as you are.

>>256844867
Dunno about you but I signed the Type-0 petition and we got PS4/X1 versions coming. Might turn out good

>>256845089
Pretty sure they're only localizing that since they smelled blood in the water since the PSP fan translation effort pretty much did their job hyping and finding an audience for them. Plus, that's still Final Fantasy, a series they're generally fine with localizing for.

>>256845406
Localization was damn near done and still they abandoned it. You're more than likely right about the fan translation, and instead of just putting a version up on PSN (HD or not), they'd rather force you to buy an all new console.

>Announce an HD version for the Vita
>End up saying it was an error

>>256845406
This. Square is still in charge and protects their product.

>>256844565
I didn't know there was petitions. I feel like sending them a letter. Handwritten. Expressing my desire to throw money at them if they bring these games over.

>>256845406
For some reason, I'm reminded of that chrono-trigger fan game that got C and D'd. Can't have people making them look bad!

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>>256827114

>>256845870
https://www.change.org/petitions/square-enix-localize-dragon-quest-7-3ds-and-dragon-quest-10-on-wii-u-3ds-pc-to-the-us-and-europe

2,400. Don't know if that's good or bad since we started it about 2 months ago.

>>256846123
Well, how long did it take that Digimon one to get to where it is now? Might make for an interesting point of reference.

>>256845870
They don't want your money for a localized handheld or console Dragon Quest game. Now, if you wanted to spend it on Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts, or a mobile port...

>>256846680
Don't know when they started theirs. Would like to talk to some of the head of that to see if we can work to help us out. Since I heard if they reached 50,000 Namco would consider it. And we are 20% of that.

>>256846680
I don't get it. They're willing to reap the profits in Japan, but they don't want the rest of the world to acknowledge that DQ is better these days? If anything it's a even greater shamfur dispray to try to save face when everybody already knows it.

GAIJINS NO DESERVE ANY DORAGON KUESUTO GAME

YOU SHOURD BE GRATEFUR YOU GOT ANY AT ARR

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I've never played a single DQ game, where should I start?

>>256847449

Why do you wish to join us in our suffering?

>>256847020
They are just quiet. Thinking that as long as they don't say anything they won't get a backlash from people. But really it's just pissing us off because we have no idea if they are using the iOS ports as a way to see if we like Dragon Quest or not. If they just said that I feel more people would be open to buy it. Yeah there would be a lot of pissed off people but at least we have a clear idea what is going on at SE considering Dragon Quest. Right now it's up in the air what they are thinking.

>>256847020
They actually bothered to cultivate a rather large western audience for Final Fantasy, to the point where it's pretty much the one JRPG name most people know, even if they're not a huge fan, while Kingdom Hearts has enough western characters from Disney in it to still be really damn popular out here. Unfortunately for Dragon Quest, neither Enix nor post-merger Square-Enix have really bothered to market the games and build up nearly as substantial a western fanbase for them (Nintendo marketing DRagon Quest IX has done a better job than Square-Enix ever really did out here, but Square-Enix isn't inclined to keep the ball rolling), and as of now, Square-Enix doesn't seem inclined to bother with even bringing the newer games over anymore. Not when they can just reuse an old translation and shit out a mobile port of an older game.

>>256847216
YOU GET RIGHTNING AND RIKE IT

>>256847449
I started with 3 way back on the Gameboy color, but I'd say 4, 5, 6 are all good places to start. They are only barely related to each other, so you aren't missing anything by starting on 6, or anything.

Of the three, 5 is definitely my favorite, though.

>>256847629
But he has a point, if you like it, then you would just be in the same boat as us, I suppose.

>>256847449
3, 4, 5, 6, or 8 are all probably good places to start.

>>256847629
They are still great games. Even if it will just end up him complaining about it like all of us.
>>256847449
3 onward are the best
3: SNES or GBC depending if you care about an extra dungeon in the end
4: I actually prefer the NES only because I personally don't like the DS localization but DS is still very much playable
5: PS2 or DS. DS has an extra girl to marry while the PS2 has a better soundtrack because it's on the PS2
6: DS since it's the only one that is fully localized
7: Hope and prey 3DS version comes out. Since the PSX version (which you can't get on the PSN because fuck you SE) is over 120 hours long.

How do I play DQX? I heard region lock was removed and Im willing to pay for the sub, do I have to buy the game too?

>>256847449
As far as I know, III, IV, V, and VIII all make good entry points. III has the NES original, a GBC version, and a fan translated SNES version. IV has the NES original and DS version (mileage might vary on the quality due to lack of party chat and heavy accent use in that version). V has fan translations of the SNES original and PS2 remake, with a localized DS version. VIII has a PS2 version and a mobile port; stick with the PS2 original.

>Reggie apparently likes them for gamer cred
>Doesn't localize them
the fuck man?

>>256847862
Until VII the west didn't even get half the FF games that came out. Once everybody started touting that VII was the greatest game ever made all they needed to do was slap Final Fantasy on it and people would eat it up.

>>256848119
I think so but you might be able to download the free trail and than pay for the game online.

>>256848231
It's all on SE. If they say fuck off to Nintendo even if they're willing to pay for the localization then Ninty can't do shit.

>>256848231
>>256832830
He seem to really love it. It's just that either SE doesn't want them to localize it or Nintendo doesn't want to bother localizing it. Personally I say it's purely SE but I have no idea since neither are willing to talk about it.

>>256848231
As far as I know it's up to Square-Enix if they come over, regardless of what Nintendo wants.

>>256848370
I suppose that's true, but since then they've pretty much had no problem at all with bringing over anything Final Fantasy related. meanwhile with Dragon Quest it's like they stopped caring beyond mobile ports.

>>256843919
Nah translators are lazy as shit and have overinflated egos. The prick probably got tired and deleted everything instead of letting someone else take over the project.

DQ is my favorite videogame franchise.
All this cant have hurts me more than you can imegine.

>>256848897
I don't know, it's Aeon Genesis doing it and they've got a good amount of completed fan translations. They just seem to take forever doing them, or jump around instead of just sticking to one or two games at a time.

Still wondering when they'll finish Metal Max 2.

But yeah, I do agree that some translators are really lazy. Still waiting for Cless to even make a page specifically for progress on his Tales of Destiny DC fan translation.

>>256849347
>Aeon Genesis

Yeah they can go fuck themselves. Those idiots are almost done with SMT if... And then they stopped. They've been translating everything else and skipped around other games. Hell they're the reason SMT I was a glitchy pile. Sorry friend but they're never getting around to it.

>>256829756
Capcom does this all the time too, present a catch22 where you either get shit or nothing at all.

>>256849119
Honestly, this sort of treatment towards the western fans has left me wondering how far down the rabbit hole to go, since I don't have a lot of experience with the series yet. As good as the games are likely to be, the farther into it I delve, the more likely I'll probably just wind up as disappointed as the rest of you guys toward Square-Enix.

>>256849819
Out of curiosity, has no one else decided to do their own fan translation of SMT if, or is there some generally unspoken rule that if a game has a fan translation in progress, no one else starts their own for it, even if the original guys have stopped making any real progress?

>>256849819
Hey, SRW Alpha's translation ticked up like 1% for the first time in 6 years, that's something right?

>>256849827
Capcom are run by fucking idiots too. But they do it by over doing their games. They make nothing but sequel after sequel and drain it until it gives no more. I honestly have no idea how there could still be Mega Man fans after how Capcom treated them since the very start.
>>256850115
Honestly I'm happy I got into the series. Yes you might find yourself depressed and angry at SE but it's for the right reason. Anyways people should be annoyed at them after how they handled themselves these 10+ years.

>>256849119
Wouldn't be so bad if region locking wasn't such a bitch.
I mean not having it in English would suck but at least you might get to learn an extra language just learning to play your favorite games.

I honestly don't know why they don't just have a massive list of shit and every couple of months customers vote on the shit they want to see localized the most.
Like they seem to enjoy all this "direct to the fans" stuff so why not.

I know reggie's mentioned that a thousand likes doesn't mean a thousand sales but at least it would be an easy way to see what people were after

>>256850413
Don't know of any unspoken rule. But I feel that if a group haven't made any progress in over a year I feel it's ok for someone to jump in and finish. But by the way things are going with If... Atlus might release SMT 2 and than If... on iOS like they did with 1.

>>256850931
SE knows people want DQ. Whenever they do something where others can talk to someone of theirs DQ is always mentioned. They just ignore it whenever they can. Just try emailing them about DQ and watch. They would either not respond at all or give a no replay replay. Like "we have many series we are bring over"

>>256850956
Well, considering AG have finished SMT and SMT 2's fan translations, how long has If's translation been going on for compared to those?

>>256850776
In recent news, Ace Attorney Dual Destinies now on iOS. Really.

https://itunes.apple.com/jp/app/ni-zhuan-cai-pan5/id877880297?mt=8&ign-mpt=uo%3D4

>>256851981
I'm wondering if I'm desperate enough to buy DQ 7 if it was digital only

>>256851981
How did phone games even get that popular compared to handhelds over there in Japan?

>>256851981
I still need to play that. But I most likely will just get the 3DS. But first I need to play AJ.

>>256852241
Its simple when you think about it.
Everyone in Japan has a phone, they need it to survive.
If you can have games on it and dont have to carry another device with you you are going to choose that option.

3DS is now for little kids and the vita for the disgusting anime fans

Thats how portable gaming looks like in Japan now

>>256852546
Japan has WAY more fucking NEETs than you realise.
It's actually a serious problem for them.

>>256852141
I actually would be fine if they agree to localize the 3DS DQ over here even if they said it would only be digital. Yeah I would have love to have a physical copy but honestly I'm at a point I would take a digital copy over nothing at all.
>>256852241
Trains. Also they do everything on their phones. But honestly I feel it's so over saturated with free shit that it can't really stand for long. Too many people that play phone games are fine with .99 or free shit to even bother with anything more. And most gamers that are willing to pay more won't because they are too focused on handheld and consoles. There's no real market for $20 phone games like what SE is selling.

>>256852916
I dont understand how that has nothing to do with what I said.

And no there arent THAT many compared to their total population.
And the NEETs play mostly PC anyways.

Which is the 3DS game that's subscription based?

>>256853201
DQX which is also on Wii, WiiU and PC

>>256853314
Do you feel SE is thinking

>THATS ENOUGH TO SHUT EM UP


and that's likely the only localization this gen from them of DQ games?

>>256853475
What are you talking about DQX is not localized.

Man I need that Rocket Slime so bad.

>>256853475
Probably not since it's an MMO and would take an assload of effort to translate and maintain servers for instead of just copy + pasting the English DQ7 script or something.

>>256853475
Nah. What they're thinking is
>CAN'T HAVE IT TAKING AWAY PLAYERS FROM FFXIV.

>>256853690
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjVfJWxFxG4

>>256853091
Ignore him. Really it's because everyone has a phone and feel that it's good enough. But as I said >>256853081 I really don't believe the mobile market can stand. It's too over saturated with shit like in 1983 but one big difference. There's no one like Nintendo that can step in and handle the quality control needed to fix this. The only thing Apple and other smart phone providers will do is fix the free to play model but only because they are scared of getting sued over that shit. But outside that they don't want to have anything to do with the store. That's why all you see if a massive amount of clones. There's nothing stopping them from just keep cloning anything that is remotely successful.

>>256853652
Sorry I assumed that at least the 3DS version of DQX was making it to Europe/NA

>>256853908
It will stand as it is now.
It wont get any bigger.
Meaning handhelds still have their place.
Vita is starting to do ok in Japan.

>>256853765
They can't copy and past the script from the PSX version. Almost everything is different. They would need to start from scratch. And DQ7 is a massive game. Just wish if they started the translation process they could say it and we would shut up.

>>256854168
>Almost everything is different.
Dude its the same game.

Is the PSX translation that awful or did the plot of the game change completely.

>>256853896
You're hurting me, /v/.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ob9iKguZjU

>You will never roam the lands with your Golem companion

>>256854342
Dialog changed. Some people says something slightly different. There's a good number of things that are different than in the PSX version. At least enough they can't just import the PSX script into the 3DS version.
>>256854152
Maybe. Just think that a lot of the big company would feel like it's not worth it to make games for it. At least outside a cheap mobile port. And I agree that smartphones could never replace handhelds.

>>256854665
>Golem companion
I'm more of a Dracky fan myself. Would love to have fun float around me as I journey the world.

>>256854729
Editing DQ7's script to fit the remake would still take a hell of a lot less effort on their end then translating and running an MMO.

Maybe if FF15 is terrible (high chance) they will be forced to localize DQ games again

>>256855093
I was just saying that they would need to start from scratch with the 3DS of DQ7. I was saying nothing about translating and running DQX over here.

>>256827114
Never as long as Square-Enix are in control.

All are excellent games too. Even the MMO is among the best MMO's currently available. Heaps better than FFXIV at least.

>>256855589
Tell me more about it. What makes it so good.

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>>256854665
Goddammit I had convinced myself that I didn't want this game anyways by completely avoiding any videos of it, and now I watched this. With all the other stuff I've heard about it it sounds like my dream MMO, but I guess we can't have nice things.

>>256827114
Square-Enix are retroactively killing all S-E brands in the west in favor of FF.

I do wonder if there is a way to get SE to at least admit that they don't want to bring it over.

>>256855932
Weird because there havent been a new FF in years, and the only spinoff thats still alive is that rhythm shit.

Youd think theyd be releasing ton of FF related stuff.

>>256855589
A strong story driven MMO that's worth a damn.
Plays like a DQ game more so than a typical MMO
Not a WoW clone
Great evolution of the DQ battle mechanics and decent party interaction
Freedom to customize your characters how you want (no stock standard class archetypes)
Heaps of extra content (dat murder mystery scenario)
Great community

>>256856721
Yeah yeah

How is the ERP community

>>256856323
Lightning returns and the MMO was this year.

Theatrhythm is a decent concept but I hate the execution. A lot good FF songs are hidden behind paid DLC.

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>>256856323
>No Crystal Chronicles on the WiiU/3DS
>No Chocobo Dungeon
>The last Tactics game was a port of War of the Lions to fucking iOS
>Final Fantasy 13: Now with 300% more Lightning edition selling worse than any game in the series has in a longass time
>Meanwhile, 6 DQ games and counting not coming out in the US

>>256856993
Fine I guess. You have 6 races to exploit and can build your own house (read: rape dungeons) and trap them inside.

>>256857297
Nice.
How is the racism? Any of the 5 races is totally unused and laughed at?

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>>256856721
meant to quote >>256855686

>>256857142
New Dragon Quest Monster AND Dragon Quest XI is in the works. Just more games that Square love to talk to the Japanese about because it funds FF. But nothing for us because it might hurt their sales.

What happens if you ask SE in their twitter about DQ?

They just ignore you?
I dont even have a twitter account but it seems some harassment is in order.

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>>256857518
>Racism
Not really, they're all pretty evenly used besides Human. Mainly due to the fact that human isn't accessible until a major plot point far into the game's story so there's that.

I'd expect a little less racial diversity if it came to the west.

>>256827114
Don't get me wrong, I'm right there with you.

But why torment yourself like this? What do you gain from it?

Also DQ7 really wasn't that good at all.

>>256858198
One of my mates got blocked for harassing them about DQ.

>>256858356
Oh no you didnt

>>256858540
It comes from a different era, where a JRPG's length is directly proportional to it's quality.
The game is fucking 80 hours long if you speedrun it. That's not good game design. It's protracted for the sake of being protracted.

>>256858356
>Also DQ7 really wasn't that good at all.
Nah it was great and the 3DS version fixes the pacing issues of the original.

>>256859008
You are an idiot.
Its about multiple short and sweet stories not related to the MCs. Like a story book.

>wah this story book has too many stories I hate being entertained

Is how silly you sound.

>>256859323
Be that as it may, it still takes eight fucking hours before you get to your first game battle.

>>256859553
Dude.

Its two hours. One if you have played the game before and remember where to go.

>>256859553
3 and so? The game felt fine without the battles. There's a clear explanation and you got a nice bit of world building from it. And after that you got your battles with more story to it. It at least explains why monsters are around.

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>>256858315
>Not making an Ogre waifu

>>256859553
>wah I don't have the patience to play long JRPG's

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>>256860219
But I'm gay. So I'll make a cute Ogre (insert whatever the husband version of waifu is). They are really cute.

>>256860813
The word you're looking for is husbando.

Just import them.

>>256861318
They are JRPGs

You need to know the language

>>256860813

>>256858315 here, Husbando was what you were looking for.

I've seen a lot of Ogres with the long super saiyan 3 like hair online. I picked a male Weddie myself.

>>256860483
>Play

You're wrong! I'd absolutely LOVE to play the game! It's just a shame you have to wade through hours of nothing before you actually get a game to play.

I love JRPGs with engaging stories, I really do. But there comes a point where you start to wonder why you're not just reading a book.

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>>256861318

>>256861482
Because books have no pictures or sound.

>>256861318
Still learning Japanese buddy. That and I'm not shelling out for a Japanese 3DS. Region lock fucking sucks.

>>256861482
People still read fiction books?

>>256861057
>>256861465
Thanks. I never really thought about the name. Just wish there was a fan translation and also an simple way to pay for subscription.

>>256861583
I'm wish you. Only been doing it for a few weeks however. Still trying to understand the grammar. Also studying kanji fucking sucks.

>>256862103
I'm with you*
Damn it.

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>>256861583
>Lost all motivation in it around three weeks ago
>Can barely bring myself to keep up with Anki on +0

>>256861914
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l-reHPtiNo

Yeah. The setup and paywall is/was pretty annoying to overcome. Recently, Japan removed their IP lock on DQX which has a lot of people questioning the possibility of a localization. There isn't much else to go on at this point.

>>256862267
Aw don't quit then. Remember after you do it for a month it starts to become a routine and by than you don't even know you just spent an hour studying. I'm only on week two and hoping I don't hit a wall.

>>256862540
I've been doing it for nearly a year.
Because I have such a bad memory, I'm still not at a point where it's even remotely usable outside of games where the menu is Katakana, and that's because that shit's easy

>>256862440
Ehh... I actually feel it has something to do with the 3DS. Like the IP somehow fucked with the 3DS copy. So they just removed it so they don't have to deal with it.

>>256853827
I bet DQX wouldn't have received the FFXIV treatment if it had failed at market. Fuck SE and their blatant favoritism.

>>256862680
Katakana seem to be a bit annoying. Mostly because it's like English but in a fucked up way because of how limited their language is. I only just kind of started building my vocab deck and haven't an annoying time remembering them.

>>256862736
>I actually feel it has something to do with the 3DS. Like the IP somehow fucked with the 3DS copy.
You'd be right.

>>256863149
I know and I hate myself for knowing that. I would have love for it to mean bring it over but I know they wouldn't allow that.

>>256863004
Back when I was a NEET I told myself that if I didn't get a job that summer, I'd learn Japanese.

Turns out I managed to get a job.

Is DQX (including 2.0) soundtrack available to download online, paid or pirated?

>>256863583
Well it takes about 2 years. And that's if you really go all out for those 2 years. I'm just studying 1 hour or so a day. One part kanji and another part grammar. Once I finish grammar I'll start actually read and hope to have a better understand of the grammar.

>>256865102
That level up sound will always make me happy.

If Square Enix doesn't want to do it, there are plenty of publishers who would jump at the chance to localize these games for them. I'm sure if Square Enix would pledge exclusivity, both Sony and Nintendo would gladly help fund the development and marketing of these games, since it's a major series in Japan.

>>256865102
I did that in DQIX though. Still, metal slime tickets are awesome.

>>256866817
Funding to develop it isn't the problem. It's just them agreeing to bring it over. Nintendo spoken happily about bring them over. Reggie showed how much he love the series. It's just that SE doesn't feel like bring them over. So they just keep deny them to bring it over.

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>>256860219
>default
Here's a qt3.14

>>256866817
>>256867459
At this point if a publisher gave SE 100% of the profits I think they'd still turn them down.

crap i wanna play dq x

>>256827114
Never.
Dragon Quest looks lame, anyway.

>>256867976
I don't know how SE could keep saying no. If Nintendo publish it SE would see pure profit. They lose fucking nothing.

>>256830528
>implying Square isn't the better half
Stay pleb.

>>256868741
If we wanted to talk about 90's Square we could have a discussion. But now Square just focus on FF and KH and that's it. And FF wasn't really that great of a series personally.

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>>256868710
I seriously think they're afraid that DQ getting popular in the west might make FF look worse.

dq>ff anyday

>>256868960
90's Square, of course.

I tried to play DQX but it wont let me, how do I acces the offline intro?
I even made a jp SE account

>>256869370
How?
>playing a JRPG for anything but the story
>ever

>>256869602
>Different people have fun with different kinds of games
I know we're on /v/, but is that really such a shocker?

>>256869439
But that's the thing ever since 2000 onward they just stopped all there other series. So it's just a battle between Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy and Final Fantasy has never been better than Dragon Quest in my opinion.

>>256869018
You mean better? Is being a hipster over DQ the cool thing to do now? Even fans of the series tells me the story is pretty lame. Not to mention the art style is ugh.

>>256869018
It's at the point this is one of the only logical explanation for their actions. It's either extreme incompetence, or an intentional ploy to weaken the brand name in the west.

>>256869876
The story is amazing what are you on.

Unless you are a teen looking for EPIC AND DEEP plots that is.

>>256869876
>You mean better?

No, worse. The last thing they want is for a strong DQ brand to overtake a weakened FF one, and since they refuse to fix FF their only option is to sabotage DQ.

>>256869876
Nigga I liked Final Fantasy. Liked. 1-10 were all varying degrees of good, 12 was dumb because of Vaan getting shoehorned in and the game literally being able to play itself with Gambits, and then from 13 they just started going full retard.

And then they started blatantly ignoring and mistreating their other popular series which did have a growing fanbase in the west.

>>256870417
Don't get me wrong, I agree with everything you said about FF.. but from what I've heard about DQ, it just doesn't seem that amazing... but I'm only in it for the story, anyway.
>>256870071
I'm 24 and just want a story that can keep my attention and isn't generic.

>>256870756
Dragon Quest has always had a great story. It's just that Dragon Quest doesn't slap you in the face with it. You are on an adventure and so you have to go out of your want to understand the story. Talk to NPCs and get a feeling of world building. That's why Dragon Quest has always been better than FF in story telling.

>>256870756
You will understand when you are over 30 and just want comfy then.

>>256854665
>The knight gets of the slime
OH MY GOD

>>256871026
This is all I wanted to hear.. just somebody explaining why DQ gets so much praise instead of shitflinging. Thanks, anon.

>>256871281
Those are Metal Slime Knights. The Metal Slime are not actually that great while allows the Knights to ride the Metal Slimes. Explains why they don't give as much EXP as normal Metal Slimes.

>>256871329
People that say Dragon Quest never has a story doesn't understand how Dragon Quest tells it's story. They do it in a more handoff way. Though NPCs and exploring. Not saying FF is horrible just that I feel they are too forceful in how they do their story. And more times than not the story isn't all that great so you are force to sit through a massive amount of cut scenes to get their story.

>>256870756
I suggest you play the games and form your own opinion instead of being influences by the lesser opinions of others.

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>mfw playing DQ VIII 1080p on pcsx2

Square Enix logic:
>They didn't buy a port of DARGOON'S QUEST FOUR, an 8 year old port of a 22 year old game? I GUESS THE WEST HATES DRAGON QUEST THEN
>DARGOON'S QUEST SOLD A LOT ON IOS? NEW IOS PORT OF A REMAKE THAT WAS ALREADY MADE!!
>Dargon's Quest 9 sells a million copies in the west, a TON for a franchise that previously had a much smaller following
>We are disappointed to see DARGOON'S QUEST NINE selling so poorly. We will never rerease DARGOON'S QUEST in dirty foreign land again.
>Bravely Default has sold 500k! It's a HUGE success! THANK YOU DIRTY FOREIGNERS
>We have printed 350k copies of DARGOONS QUEST VI and it only sold 350k.
>The World Ends With You sells way more ouside of Japan than in Japan
>STUPID FOREIGNERS HAVE NO TASTE. NO SEQUEL, EVER.

Fuck these Japanese niggers. I hate Square Enix so much

>>256873993
>DARGOON'S QUEST
That will never get old. Mostly because it shows how much they fucking care about the series outside of Japan.

>>256873741
Looks like I found this thread too late, it would have been better to post this here.
>>256873907

>>256875113
impressive

>>256827114
I want them so bad it hurts ;_;

>>256873993
>>256874232
The sad thing is that I'm fairly sure if they used spell checking or something it would have picked up on the "Dargon" thing.

>>256875841
Seriously whomever typed that should be fucking fired. This was seriously retarded how they fucked that up.

>>256875841
>>256876038
Was it fixed in the EU and ES shops?
This happened in NZ AFAIK

>>256876758
Yeah it says "Dragon Quest IV" on iTunes. But the damage is done and it's just one giant joke now.

>>256827114

Give it up, OP. Just import the thing and either learn Moon or look at a script from a prior version as you play.

>>256878727
Import it and the 3DS? Fuck that noise. I'd rather buy the PS1 version at that point

>>256878727
Learning moon but it will take about 2 years before I'm good enough to play it. I could get the GBC of Monsters 1 and 2 and the PSX of VII but the 3DS versions are way better.

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>>256878727
>region locked
>DQ7 script

Bad idea

>>256879102
>>256879203

>2014
>Not owning a Japanese 3DS by now

It's like you like game droughts.

>>256879815
It's not that I like it. I just don't know enough moon to be able to play even simple games.

>>256879815
I have other video game consoles and school to occupy my time.

Plus I'm emulating a ton of older games.

>>256879971
Neither do I. I'm gonna make an attempt at playing gates to infinity in a couple of days. See how far I can get before lose it.

>>256880372
>3DS of Mystery Dungeon
Please don't. It's really bad.

>>256880815
Mate, it's gonna be my 4th playthrough.
I am beyond salvation.

>>256881139
I believe in you