>She wasn't hiding behind fire, she got trapped and couldn't escape because dresses are not conducive to acrobatics.
No, you fucking retard, she was casting fire and was hiding behind it, she even casted fire as Sheik in the fire temple.
That's how clueless and retarded pro female Sheik retards are. You guys have no fucking idea about Zelda games, shut the fuck up.
>Pro-male sheiks lost literally every thread that has been created today.
Pro male Sheik crowd arguments:
>Zelda wants people to believe she's a boy
>she's into magic
>so is Impa
>Sheik's body looks entirely different
>different eye color
>muscular chest you can't get by binding your tits
>bigger framework in general
>strong and incredibly fast
>could do shit on her own, saved Ruto, protected Kakariko
>jumped down 100 feet in the desert
>Link never gets to lay his hands on him because he's fast as fuck and bails out
>whereas Zelda runs like a grandma at the end of Ocarina of Time and can't do anything except opening gates by using her magic, can't even help Link defeating some Stalfos and has to hide in a ring of fire she casts
>manga that's officially approved by Nintendo features Zelda getting turned into a boy by Impa's help
Pro female Sheik crowd arguments:
>haha, Tumblr is in denial, le Tumbl, Tumbl, TUmbl
>you are gay
>Sheik iz girl, yo
>b-but my interview translator guy, a-and my non-canon Tecmo shit (which is actually another proof that Ocarina of Time Sheik is male since Sheik in Hyrule Warriors is female and looks exactly like Zelda, whereas Ocarina of Time Sheik doesn't look like Zelda, see above)
these arguments are so fucking retarded. zelda is a woman. zelda turns into sheik. zelda=sheik so sheik=female. it's really not that hard. nintendo themselves have even said that sheik is a female, but why should they? it's PAINFULLY obvious that zelda is still a woman after she puts on a ninja costume. holy fuck.
It was fucking confirmed like three days ago. Jesus Christ, Sheik is a woman. It's literally Zelda in a fucking change of clothes. Are you people retarded? Mulan doesn't magically grow a cock just because she changes her outfit.
Well at least we finally know why all these threads keep popping up. Gay people trying to gain acceptance through vidya. The only problem is that it is never implied that she is gay. She was just disguised as a guy. Also what this guy said.
No, because apparently /v/ isn't tolerant even after ALL THESE FUCKING YEARS it still as shitty as the rest of 4chan
It is time to learn that "woman" you been beating off to all these years is a really a dude
>had some autistic guy arguing with me on deviantart years ago that sheik was a man
>fish through my old ass inbox
>gave him the link that nintendo officially confirmed it just a few days ago
>he immediately blocked me
All of this is refuted by the same argument you are using to suggest Sheik is boy. She's using magic to make herself look like a boy, while still being a girl. You have no evidence to suggest otherwise.
why would she need to use magic to change her gender? see >>256818169
if you can use magic to physically change your body's gender, why can't you instead simply use magic to create an illusion that makes people think your body is a different gender? That is simpler than physically changing bodies. With no evidence supporting one over the other, the simpler solution is the correct one by default.
Nintendo said it is zelda as a disguise, while not answering the core of the debate on whether or not Zelda was actually gender swapping.
So the debate will continue on whether or not she grew a dick or created an illusion.
gender swapping is not used to disguise people... typically when you disguise yourself as the other gender that doesn't include getting a genital operation.
name ONE instance in games/shows/movies/etc where a physical gender swap is needed to disguise someone as the opposite gender, rather than simply dressing yourself differently.
>sheik is male because she can actually fight
and this is how you idiots reveal yourselves: its just good old misogyny, refusing to accept a girl could actually accomplish things
Why does it matter what genetalia zelda has, if they want to represent as a boy then they are male and you should respect that.
And what is the purpose of using magic to change your genitals? It has already been established that doing so is not necessary to disguise yourself as the other gender. There is no point.
I am fine with this. Zelda can identify as a male all she wants while in disguise. That's the point of the disguise. These people are arguing that she physically changed her genitals which is completely pointless and adds nothing except tranny pandering.
>she doesn't physically change her into a boy
>Link noting how delicate Sheik's body is, and getting flustered about it
to be fair sheik depends on an entirely different fighting style than Zelda.
There is no reason that Zelda couldn't combine Sheiks training with her magic unless Sheik was an altered state of mind to ensure she wouldn't use magic.
But i don't give a fuck about your murder mystery clues for your dick girl fetish, detective. Nintendo already stated she has always been a girl. Even if it was planned as something else before and it was retconned, who gives a fuck? What kind of train of thought is that?
>Zelda will disguise herself as a man! But that's not enough! No, She will grow a magic cock! Never will it be mentioned or add anything to the plot, but it's there alright!
Because it's a god damn video game from the 90s, anon. Nobody put that much thought into this shit They made the video game and thought it would be a cool plot twist if Sheik was Zelda. That's it. I don't understand why people are overly analyzing this.
Because this is a children's game. This is pretty much Mulan. You need to do some serious mental gymnastics in order to think that they originally intended for Zelda to use magic to give herself a penis.
I forgot about that. That makes the manga version even stupider since in that Sheik interacts with Ganondorf. Why would you try to protect Zelda by putting her real personality to sleep and giving her one that actively works with the person she's trying to avoid?
Why can't /v/ accept that Zelda/Sheik is a genderfluid queer?
Check your privilege.
>There is no reason that Zelda couldn't combine Sheiks training with her magic unless Sheik was an altered state of mind to ensure she wouldn't use magic.
She probably just chose not to in order to keep up the disguise. You never see Sheik fight in OOT anyway, she just plays songs, throws Deku Nuts, and saves Ruto in a way that isn't expanded upon.
This is the most autistic thread I've seen on /v/ in a while.
And yes, that includes R.O.B. threads.
>This. There are literally billions of other things to do with your time.
>>Pro-male sheiks lost literally every thread that has been created today.
Why are there even multiple threads about this per day?
This is fucking shameful. This is /a/-tier shitposting at it's worst.
>I WANT THIS FEMALE CHARACTER TO HAVE A DICK, I WANT IT WANT IT I WANT IT I WANT THE DIIIIIICK
So if most of you are so fucking le epic gaymer homos, why don't you just fantasize about Poison or some other character that actually has a dick instead of being so desperate for Sheik? Is it because this is a new bait? Do you just love to shitpost?
I'll never understand homos of /v/. That's why people call you "mentally ill", by the way. You people are a bunch of unstable pricks.
Speaking of Sheik, I wish that they had executed Zelda getting caught after lowering her disguise better. The way they did it, there's no reason he couldn't have trapped Link in a crystal too.
>Nintendo in charge of describing elegant refined blonde womanly princesses
What the fuck does tomboy even mean in Japan
a costume is designed to mislead people
dressing up as a boy doesnt make you a boy.
Wearing a magic costume designed to mislead everyone is not the same.
>hurr she transformed not a costume
Thats why its magic.
Have you EVER seen sheik fight a bad guy?
It's a very obvious sign that they intended for her to be female when she is voiced by Zelda, Her 'low voice' is exactly that of Zelda putting on a low voice - if they intended for her to actually sound masculine they would've got one of the male actors to do the grunts.
Almost everybody who doesn't see that Nintendo did not intend for her to have literally become male is a fucking retard. Their models and artwork are different to mislead, not out of an expressed will to have her actually become a man.
There's really no way to know for sure. The game shows him as a male but an official Nintendo spokesperson threw out "female", so it's up in the air at this point. Both sides are "sperging" about it to annoy the others. It doesn't really matter.
Holy shit nobody is saying that Zelda is male or anything like that
We're saying that we're suppose to think that the Sheik persona is male because that is what Zelda intended & what Nintendo intended for us to think at first
>Have you EVER seen sheik fight a bad guy?
uhhh... She got hes ass whipped by spirit bongo bongo just like link
Also pretty sure everyone can survive falling 100 feet in zelda. Link does it regularly
Shiek never does anything, I dont get how you fags think shes special
She used magic to physically transform into a male costumed Sheikah ninja.
>but there are people that are trying to argue Zelda used magic to grow a dick.
No need to be crude about it, I find it ironic the "growing a dick" meme is catching on so persistantly the last few days and always used by people who SIMULTANIOUSLY complain about things they find "icky". Transformation is just a literary trope, it doesn't always have to be a wierd fetish, why can't you just take things at face value without reading into them and projecting it on your imaginary opponents.
Thats what I was saying.
People who are claiming she transformed her proportions and attained a boy bod are stupid. Its just a costume, not a boy bod at all. Magic is cool like that
Look man, I'd love it if Zelda turned into a guy as Sheik, TG is my 2nd biggest fetish. The fact remains however that that just isn't what happened. And nothing is going to change that.
So it's just an gossip stone that says an arbitrary character trait that doesn't match up with any depicted traits, it feels tacked on, indicitive of a japanese mentality toward "tomboys". That's just how it feel to me anyway.
lol it's a disguise. That's like saying that Zelda putting on a hat and talking in a deeper voice constitutes a male persona.
And yes, people are saying that she literally had a penis when she turned into Sheik. Nobody gives a shit about whether she intended to pass herself off as male.
>shiekfags getting BTFO every thread they make
I've missed every thread about this.
But I think it makes a lot of sense if magic could transform Zelda into a boy to hide herself.
I'm not talking about trans bullshit, but it's useful for hiding
This is a pretty retarded discussion.
If Nintendo retcons a 15 year old game, it doesn't matter to my argument based on the events of the original game.
In fact I can turn it around, the fact that you guys keep making nonstop threads about "FINALLY AFTER ALL THESE YEARS NINTENDO SAYS I'M RIGHT SUCK IT FAGS" about some obsolete issue speaks to a different obsession.
I'm just saying it's blatant turnabout that you guys are the only one's bring up "dicks" and "cocks" and then blaming the other side. I remember reading many threads about it yesterday so don't try to deny it now.
Because it's a meaningless thought, really.
Only tumblr and tumblr-/v/ cares about it.
She just used magic to hide herself, not to become a boy because she wanted to be one or some shit like that.
all these years and I thought this was just a meme to say sheik was a dude.
All these years I thought people were just pretending to be retarded.
at first I thought this was trolling but REALLY? are people this retarded? Fuck zelda even reveals she is sheik in OOT She does not change her gender. This idea was born in the fucking mid 90s. Get fucked.
Stop being autistic spergs
C'mon anon, no one is this stupid.
Surely they are just playing the long game, right?
>Things that have been made better by a creator defining something after the fact:
>Things that have been made worse:
>Super Mario Galaxy
In terms of games, what am I missing?
Wait, this is a debate?
It's pretty fucking obvious it's just Zelda wearing a disguise.
She uses magic to change outfits because they wouldn't fucking animate her actually changing her outfit in a conventional way. Wouldn't even be possible on a N64.
>>muscular chest you can't get by binding your tits
yep. clearly everyone working at Nintendo, the company who made her, always referring to Sheik as a female are all wrong. Clearly the creator and producer of the Zelda series making sure she is cast by a female voice actor and being referred to as a she in Smash Bros and Hyrule Warriors are wrong.
Personally, I always thought it was just Zelda in a costume, so yes a female. But Maybe she used some weird spell that changes her sex. But then again it doesn't matter. I don't really care and neither should you. Why do we need this thread 10 times a day? Are some of you trying to push an agenda or something?
The model and artwork were created to mislead you. Anybody who actually uses them to argue that Sheik is physically male is just dumb: it's plain as day Nintendo intended for her to be Zelda in a costume.
Sheik also has manly, big feet. Even bigger than Rutos although she has goddam fins.
Never saw Koizumi, the one responsible for story and characters, referring to Sheik as a girl. But yeah, keep shitposting.
Not that it would matter if anyone is referring to her as a girl... since, even though it's a male body, it's still Zelda behind all this... and Zelda is a girl.
Post Zelda from OoT too. Most of the bitching about how different they are aren't really based on anything, since the art from OoT for Zelda has her having a masculine body anyways.
Now some female LoZ feet.
This x infinity.
Now have some Nintendo girl actually crossdressing, no brown skin, muscles, bigger framework and strength out of a sudden, just male clothes.
Are you fucking stupid?
Link can fit an entire arsenal of weapon in his pocket but zelda someone who USES MAGIC cant fit her boobs into a magic costume made to mislead you into thinking shes a boy?
Its fucking magic you retard, just a costume to hide her identity.
I might be misremembering, but the ending retcons the game, so Mario should have never met Rosalina, but she still shows up for whatever reason. Also Mario Kart 8 retconned young Rosalina's pink hair.
Shiek's gender has no influence on Zelda's appearance in that list. If you actually played Zelda games you'd know why it is listed.
You just went full retard.
Pretty much all action adventure/RPG dudes can fit all their stuff into a bag or something, be it Witcher, Final Fantasy or... whatever. It's a gameplay decision. A male chest is not.
Pro male Sheik people really have no credible arguments, it's awkward.
Holy shit really?
Thats fucking hilarious.
Let me ask you tumblrfags something: When has there ever been gender changing magic in the Zelda universe?
Changing clothes? Sure, just like in Wind Waker... but you degenerates are really grasping at straws for the sake of your porn and fanfics.
That Aonuma even said himself he likes the mangas because they fill the gaps. You probably didn't notice it yet but it's all about indications, we can't debate with actual facts, we, none of us, knows if Sheik actually has a pussy or a penis. So we use what we have.
>Let me ask you tumblrfags something: When has there ever been gender changing magic in the Zelda universe?
In OoT, Sheik.
There also are a lot of gay and fucking crazy characters in Zelda, it's not like gender bending would be too weird for Zelda.
>Pro male Sheik people
Dude you just went full retard.
When you except a bulge from a Nintendo game all help is lost.
Fine. Also why quote yourself.
She USES MAGIC.
She was taught by impa how to disguise herself. She can manifest fire and hide light arrows in her chest but she cant create a disguise?
I find it funny how a manga is considered not canon or canon based on convenience. OoT manga is canon because people infer that sheik has a dick, yet the Metroid manga which delves into Samus' backstory and personality is not canon because she has PTSD.
The question is do YOU pro femaler retards even play the game? Left is actually Cremia but it's the same model.
I don't even know why people and I still reply, you guys are so fucking clueless and can't accept the most simple facts.
It was not confirmed by Nintendo, though!
And Zelda was disguised, this is true!
But she was disguised as man actually using a man's body, read the first post in this tread!
You can literally see how he transforms into Zelda, he doesn't undress, he doesn't get rid of his "breast bandage", he simply transforms into Zelda, an actual woman, using magic!
>he simply transforms into Zelda, an actual woman, using magic!
>transforming your entire body into another person is more believable than using magic to just create a simple disguise
See the problem in this thread?
Now let's end this, this is getting sad. Sheik is a guy and everyone is happy.
I never liked all the changes thy made in the manga. Like, MM's manga changed the Happy Mask Salesman into some kind of demon instead of some weird but helpful guy.
As for shit being canon, when piglike and bald did their comic for skyward sword Nintendo was super strict on how Link was depicted, in ways that was allowed in the mangas, so I dunno. They seem to just be going off the games.
Hyrule Warriors. And Bill isn't Koizumi, it doesn't matter what he has to say, it's just a fucking interview translator guy.
The fact that the whole interview is about Hyrule Warriors. Hell, I'm sure he wouldn't even have PERMISSION to answer such a big question about the entire Zelda series in general. If you believe this, you're fucking retarded.
>Unveils disguise in OOT right in front of you
>Transforms between Zelda and Sheik in Melee and Brawl
>Confirmed Zelda in a different outfit in HW
If you think Sheik is a male you are a dumb ass, plain and simple.
>but it's the same model
That means its also malon.
A disguise performed VIA magic.
Had you actually played the game, you would know this.
Hell, both characters have an entirely different BMI FFS, and Sheik is referred to as Male in-game.
Exactly. And she has tiny as fuck feet in the official artworks. Because she's an actual woman. Japan is pretty precice when it comes too feet and male/female.
Stop shitposting and being clueless about things you want to discuss.
Guys. You literally watch Sheik transform back into Zelda. Sheik is Zelda in disguise. She doesn't stop being Zelda and become some different fucking person who's a different fucking gender. She's Zelda. In a disguise.
That is literally what Sheik is.
Sheik. Is. A. Disguise. For. Zelda.
Zelda is female.
Is this going in yet, or...?
Bill Trinen sounds like a nintendo management guy who isnt really that interested in the canon of zelda
>shoes dont exist
You dont know how big shieks feet are shut the fuck up.
Its a disguise. Its suppose to make you LOOK different. Not become another person.
Putting on a dress and stuffing a bra doesnt make me a girl.
Yeah, I bet she has breasts on her arms too.
He's head of Treehouse, the NOA localisation team.
>Princess Ruto says it
Holy shit is this really what you fags consider "proof"
This is getting more pathetic than I thought
Sheik's model appears ambiguously male to mislead you. She is referred to as a male by Ruto because the disguise is working. Nintendo did not intend for Zelda's magical disguise to turn her into an actual dude (magic is a convenient shortcut for instant on/off disguise), and we hear her use female voice clips when she is attacked at the well.
So i guess these people are males also huh
I don't even care about all this Zelda shit, I played OoT and I liked it but I never cared too much. This post makes it very believablet hat Sheik is male, though. Why so many people fight it?
>Princess Ruto says it
And here we go.
>The persona Zelda adopted to escape from Ganondorf. She completely hid all traces of her Zelda identity and appeared to Link as the last member of the Sheikah tribe. She taught Link essential ocarina melodies and then vanished in an instant. She didn't appear very often—rather, she would show up to support Link in crucial situations.
Shut the fuck up.
Zelda's Sheik form is an illusion.
That's all there is too it.
Even still there's bandages and pads used to give her a male form appearance.
I wish SJW and faggots weren't stupid and would pay attention to history class, or even read up history at all.
>we hear her use female voice clips when she is attacked at the well.
Link technically uses female voice clips too, since his VA is a female in a lot of incarnations.
Does this mean link is actually a female in a male disguise?
Weren't all the Sheikah female, like the Gerudo?
>Sheik is referred to as Male in-game.
So you mean Zelda's disguise was a success?
>A disguise performed VIA magic.
there is no gender changing magic in the Zelda universe.
>Had you actually played the game, you would know this.
Had you finished the game, Zelda herself would reveal to you it was her in disguise the entire time.
I wish female Sheik fags would at least MAKE UP their minds. Once they admit that Sheik's body is completely different and are all like "y-yes... Sheik has a different body and is bigger... but that doesn't mean he, ah, I mean't she, has a dick." And then they're like "hah, it's not a different body, all your facts are lies, look, she even binds her breasts!"
It makes this whole debate unnecessary difficult. ;_;
>A magical transformation is preformed. It's not a simple change of clothes.
So your saying zelda cant change clothes with magic but she can transform her body into a completely new one?
Shut the fuck up.
Bullshit since they need to reproduce, you know? And Dodongo is actually considered a Sheikah in Ocarina lore.
>And then they're like "hah, it's not a different body, all your facts are lies, look, she even binds her breasts!"
Only retards are saying that.
The level headed people realize zelda created a magic disguise. Nothing more.
the retards cant deal with losing male shiek
>hurr she used magic to transform
>no she never could possibly use magic to create a disguise
>Miyamoto is working on his last Zelda game
>He decides to make a twist in the story reveling the mysterious guy giving you info is actually Zelda
>"But how do we stop the players from discovering it's actually Zelda Myamoto-sama?"
>"Use Rink model you mutherfucka"
The innocence of this man, who could have seen that almost twenty years later deviants would try to cling to the disguise because it appeals to their fucked up fetish.
>So you mean Zelda's disguise was a success?
Zelda's disguise that transforms her into a biological male, yes
>there is no gender changing magic in the Zelda universe.
>Had you finished the game, Zelda herself would reveal to you it was her in disguise the entire time.
Had you finished the game, you would see that it's a transformation performed via magic.
Sheik isn't like Peter Parker. Its not a simple change of clothes. A change of outfit wont change the entire dimensions and BMI of your entire body.
Do you really not understand why it's not the same? A woman voicing a prepubescent boy is normal. Sheik is supposedly a grown man, at least as old as Link, but has the same actress as Zelda. It's a very fucking deliberate decision but Sheik is a woman.
The Gerudo kidnap and rape Hylian men to propagate their race, the Sheikah if they were all female would probably take Hylian men too.
And when you even go this far admitting it's a different, stronger body and Zelda actually wants people to believe she's a male, why can't you not ALSO at least TOLErATE that it's probably the case she goes full male? It's so simple.
loook im a male now
Guys, Sheik isn't male, Sheik doesn't have a gender because Sheik is just a disguise, Sheik isn't real
She disguised as a man, so nobody would guess it's her, that doesn't make Sheik male, it's still just a disguise and actually a woman underneath it, maybe using magic to make her look more like a man, but never actually a man
>name ONE instance in games/shows/movies/etc where a physical gender swap is needed to disguise someone as the opposite gender, rather than simply dressing yourself differently.
Venture bros does it.
I'm just trying to look at it from an all powerful wizard queen's perspective. If she could she most likely would give herself a dick at some point, this is Zelda we're talking about. She's a trickster that likes to play games when she's not doing royal shit.
Right, I'll make this nice and simple for you all.
If I, a big-ass hairy man, put on a Sailor Moon outfit, does the character of Sailor Moon magically become male?
No. No she does not. But I do not, by the same token, magically become female either.
Zelda made up the character of 'Sheik' as a disguise. 'Sheik' as a concept, as a character that was invented BY Zelda, is male. She wants people to think Sheik is a dude, and they do.
Zelda, while dressed AS Sheik, is still female. Just because she's playing the part of a male character (that she, herself, made up), does not magically make her a man.
TL:DR - The character of 'Sheik' is male. Zelda playing Sheik is still female.
This escalated quickly.
Nintendo already confirmed it.
Also stop acting like zelda cant work out and train to learn how to jump.
>hurr shiek stronger than zelda
How about some proof? The only time shes ever confronted she gets her shit slapped by spirit bongo bongo.
>hurr she can jump 100 feet
And link can jump off of death mountain.
And here we have the breast binding retards again: >>256835281
Sheik is female because Sheik is Zelda. I thought that was the end of it, but no, fans HAVE to debate for years because they just HAVE to know what porn is more canon than the rest or some shit. This is just dumb.
>probably the case
That's the problem. No where is it ever suggested that she literally became a man, except in fanart and fanon.
If that happened, the games or creators would say so.
Using magic and a male body, yes. You can't fool Ganondorf with mere clothes.
Yeah just look a Sweden and those tranny elementary schools. Even the captcha agrees
Well Everyone that actually works for Nintendo says Sheik is female. It's been said multiple times, and you just ignore it. You're opinion doesn't change that Sheik was always clearly female.
And every Zelda game contradicts its respective manga. But hey, you can keep on hanging out in denial.
You know what is sad? Only this nigger can end this, but he doesn't speak English and he will never learn that this is a "thing" since Nintendo will never bother him with such stupid shit.
Yet I feel that even if Shiggy said Sheik is female this idiots will do mental gymnastic and pass his authority.
You did it Shiggy, godspeed you wonderful bastard.
So, you don't see:
>different eye color
>muscular chest you can't get by binding your tits
>bigger framework in general
Just read >>256813840
Doesn't change Sheik saved Ruto from monsters, kept an eye on Kakariko, jumped off a 100 feet rock in the desert, could move so fast Link didn't see him escaping and more. At the end Zelda is slower than a grandma and is hiding behind fire instead of helping Link. She can't even distract the goddam enemies or something.
>Using a disguise is now the same as changing your gender
So Bugs Bunny identifies as genderfluid now?
Ignorance is bliss. Imagine how fucked up the present would be if 50 years ago this conversation was being had. Imagine how fucked up the future is GOING to be. I can see it now
>boy picks up something pink
>MY SON IS GENDERFLUID AND PROGRESSIVE START THE HORMONE TREATMENTS
Not really. Check out the pic in OP.
Goddammit, female Sheik tards are retarded and difficult. You guys should be very, very thankful some of us are even replying to you.
Its okay for zelda to use some crazy advanced magic to transform her entire being into another person, but its impossible to use crazy advanced magic to make a disguise?
I don get it.
How could shiek be male if shiek is zelda.
Like this guy said
>Putting on a dress and stuffing a bra doesnt make me a girl.
Why cant we have both
What are you even trying to say here? We already debunked this breast binding bullshit like 100 threads ago. Breast binding doesn't give you such a defined chest, check out the official OoT artwork.
>Goddammit, female Sheik tards are retarded and difficult. You guys should be very, very thankful some of us are even replying to you.
This so much.
Because everything in the game speaks against it, I guess. Don't even come up with more pointless arguments, I'm bored by them.
This all comes down to whether or not you think that, when using magic to change her appearance, Zelda bothered to make a dong.
That is literally what you're arguing over. A fictional character's decision to give her own fictional character a magical penis.
Nintendo would probably also say that Birdo was a girl too if you asked them.
Nintendo isn't beyond gender-bending, and OoT would not have been the only game they made that had this.
autism and fanboism collide anon,thats when those people crawl out of their holes
But if it's NOT breast binding, why are there bandages all over the chest. On top of that, starting breast binding before you even get breasts will probably prove more effective than breast binding when you already have them.
>Because everything in the game speaks against it, I guess.
I guess her disguise worked? Wasn't that the intention? It would be stupid if people said "that sheik is totally a girl in disguise"
And a fake leather face? She isn't wearing anything, she transforms and uses nothing but magic. Play the game.
>people arguing about a twist in a video game that came out 16 years ago.
>Twist was proven in said game
>Nintendo would probably also say that Birdo was a girl too if you asked them
And if they says so guess what faggot? Birdo would be a girl. It's their IP they can say what ever the fuck they want and it will be canon.
Until Nintendo comes out and say Sheik is a male come and shitpost on /v/, otherwise stay in your delusions.
Does Sheik also have breasts on his fingers?
game and watch confirmed for smash
>mfw male shiekfags cant handle getting btfo
And? Being wrong isn't a controversial opinion, it's getting facts wrong. You don't have an opinion on a character's confirmed gender.
>Bridget is actually a girl in Gulity Gear. Look at the signs! It's my opinion!
No, you're fucking wrong.
>>b-but my interview translator guy, a-and my non-canon Tecmo shit (which is actually another proof that Ocarina of Time Sheik is male since Sheik in Hyrule Warriors is female and looks exactly like Zelda, whereas Ocarina of Time Sheik doesn't look like Zelda, see above)
I like this argument, actually. Pretty straight. In HW Sheik looks female because she is female, in OoT Sheik looks different, not like Zelda, not really female... most definitly because he isn't.
Excuse me sir, please look at the rest of Shiek's clothing. HE IS COVERED IN BANDAGES. Fighters wear bandages to protect their joints and to seal in protective medicinal creams.
The argument is whether she fashioned a penis.
Purists believe that Sheik is fully female, as Zelda would not have seen a penis before.
Degenerates hope that Sheik is some futa monster.
Like I said, you're a sad faggot.
Read up on history.
For all you know, Sheik's clothes are a part of their body and can't be removed, resulting in a complete lack of sexual characteristics. Magic in the Zelda universe is extremely loosely defined, so the writers can do whatever the fuck they want.
This argument is completely pointless anyway because some people are going to draw Sheik with a dick and some are going to draw Sheik with a vagina no matter what Nintendo says.
surely these threads are a new breed of bait.
zelda is a girl
impa teaches zelda about becoming sheik
zelda dresses up as sheik after training with impa
sheik is zelda
zelda is still a girl
sheik is therefore a girl
sheik is literally zelda
You just got a christian-approved answer by NOA that has nothing to do with the actual game writters and developers.
Sheik is male, Zelda genderbents into Sheik, this is common knowledge and nothing special or weird in Japan.
So has anyone redrawn the scene where Volgin grabs snakes dick to discover his identity with Gannon and Sheik? Because seriously that scenario is the only fucking reason Zelda would need to give herself a dick.
Thats' the point. It's an illusion. She can do a little Sailor Moon spin in and out of it in Smash for a reason.
That reason wasn't enough for SJW/faggots to understand though.
In any case, magic doesn't need to be defined to know that this could be pulled off without it.
Are you trying to say that somehow impractical to do a magic A but more practical to do a magic B? That's arbitrary and trivial because it's "magic". Furthermore it's a genre convention, easily understood in the context of literary tropes.
god damn it anon, I lauged more than I should have
Binding will do that to your chest. Besides it's a disguise. If you look at the rest of your fucking pictures, you'd see that Sheik has a clearly female figure.
And that "translator guy" is not only the personal translator for Miyamoto and Aonuma, but the head translator for Nintendo. If he said it, it's because one of those two said it first. And Aonuma has said it.
>b-but muh man chest
You should look up some picture of female chest binding. It gives that exact shape.
>b-but muh hands are the same fucking size, stop making shit up and then posting pictures that prove yourself wrong.
>oh! B-but muh manga
Contradicts all the games, and is non-canon.
>you will never canonically suck Zelda's magic dick
The terms "male" and "female" refer to sex, a scientific term that concerns what chromosomes the person has; it is not the same as gender, which is a language term. No matter what you claim to identify as, and no matter how your language works, you cannot change or decide your sex. If you were born with XY chromosomes then you are a male and always will be, and vice versa. Please, for the love of fuck, will you at least try to learn the argument you're baiting with before you construct such a garbage shitpost?
>Some company guy says something wrong.
>Anon A: "He's wrong."
>Anon B: "NUH UH! Business man saya Sheik girl, so sheik girl!
>Anon A: "Sigh... Alright, look, here's proof he's wrong."
>You: "AUTISM FOLK"
Sheik is male based on pure speculation and opinions.
There's no evidence that supports it other than speculation.
How many times do the actual creators have to tell you shitlords.
It's can't just be a simple disguise because it changes all her physical and athletic traits. Plus she clearly uses magic to transform back which restores her female form and abilities.
You don't know this and you are just assuming, like it or not Nintendo has spoken.
If another guy from Nintendo comes out and says Sheiks is actually a dragon, the she IS a dragon, he got permission from the company to speak so it counts, Nintendo is not going to bother Myamoto for this kind of stupid things.
Bill said, something along the lines of "Zheik is just Zelda in a change of clothes".(I don't have the exact quote. But it's something close to that.)
Change of clothes? Well... Look at OP's image. That's more than just a chance of clothes. There bodies are clearly different. With one image, Bill was proven wrong.
How delusional are you people?
Shiek NEVER does anything remotely impressive.
>hurr she dodged link
Wow a girl is more agile than a boy in a video game. Stop the presses.
Shiek is a useless piece of shit like zelda whos only confrontation led to getting her ass beat by bongo bongo same as link
>If anything it's just a safe retcon for the new game
No its not. She is zelda in game, she does a magic flash and changes. You have ZERO proof its not just a disguise.
Also link jumps hundreds of feet when hes a child.
>Ganondorf comes back to his castle after a long day of being a dark lord
>Crushes the head of a prisoner for fun
>commands his armies to burn farms, kidnap children, etc
>retreats into his room after eating a feast of monster meat for dinner
>pulls out his crystal ball from the secret safe behind his throne
>from here, he can see all in Hyrule and find out any information that could help him tighten his foul grip on the land
>He checks to see if anyone is coming in
>Uses the ball to check the cocks and balls of every male in Hyrule in case they're hiding secret vaginas in their britches
Look, Jim Carry used magic to turn himself into a fat, fantasy monster!!! It's totally not just him in a disguise! No matter what the people who made the movie and Jim Carry say!
Why is it so hard to fucking believe that Sheik is a guy? I always thought it made sense because Zelda wasn't stupid (hence, why she had the triforce of wisdom) and used her wisdom to hide from Ganondorf by turning herself into the least conspicuous person; a male Impa. God, you people are fucking stupid.
Or you know... exercise and train with impa?
This thread is abysmal
>hurr shiek can do stuff so hes a guy
Yeah well Impa was the real master and shes a girl so thats a moot point as well.
this is the most retarded thread i've seen on /v/ this week
everybody knows sheik is a woman in disguise
didnt know gay people liked OOT this much and were dedicated to be this autistic about it.
its kinda sad, y'all should go back to lgbt and cry about it.
When the articles say "Nintendo confirms Sheik is a girl", they're really referring to a single Nintendo employee, who works as a translator. Granted, he is Miyamoto's main translator, and worked on Zelda games, so that has to count for something. But for OoT specifically, he only translated bug reports.
The disguise is simple, even if it's an illusion.
Her powers are not. Nor are they explained. It's probably temporary and needs re-fueled/done every so often.
There are very few Zelda games where Zelda actually uses her triforce power. In most Zelda games she's a child or being suppressed.
>it changes all her physical and athletic traits
You do realise that she didn't just sit on her ass when she was training to become a sheikah, right? She used illusion magic to change her appearance slightly, used clothes to hide what she couldn't, and earned everything else through training. Christ, why are you even trying to argue that Sheik isn't Zelda? The game itself spells it out for you, what isn't there to understand?
That is literally fucking retarded. If you dressed up as a chick, does that make you a fucking woman? No, you're a fucking cross dressing fag. You're still a guy.
Same applies for Zelda dressing up as a male, she's still a fucking female.