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>/v/ suddenly hates Skyward Sword
Other than the padding and fucking Fi, I have no idea why someone would hate this game. Of course its not perfect nor is it a terrible game
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>>/v/ suddenly hates

This fucking board is hilarious
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>>256809504
>b-b-b-but egoraptor doesnt like it.
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this artist man
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>>256809896
mazing isn't it?
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>>256809504
BOMB BOWLING
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>>256810436
>>256809838
Do you fuckers seriously hate this game cause of some drop-out said so?
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>>256810582
both of those were sarcastic
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>>256809504
>Other than the padding
You mean 2/3rds of the game?
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>>256810582
I hate SS because of the shit motion controls. I'm sure it would have been great if they'd just gave us the option to use the classic controller.
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>>256810582
>drop-out

that dropout makes more than you do sitting around in your basement
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>>256809504
/v/ has hated skyward sword since its release pal
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>>256811447
i doubt he does
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the controls are 50% of the time fucking unresponsive.

thats why everyone hates SS.
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>>256813194
Just because you had trouble with the controls doesn't mean everyone in the fucking world did
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>>256813194
Maybe if you didn't wail your arm like you were having a seizure.
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>>256811552
sorry to say this is true

But /v/ hates everything anyway.

I liked SS.
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>>256813398
THIS
many games dont have shitty unplayable controls
people are just fucking stupid sometimes
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>>256809504
Fuck off
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>>256813719
Twilight Princess had worse controls. They were unresponsive AND had input delay. /v/ loves to suck that game's dick though.
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>>256813719
Why is this the main argument for people who like SS? I played it with the Zelda Wiimote that came with it and 2 others. The game played like shit and got needed to synch all the fucking time.

Motion controls ruined what may have been a decent zelda game. And anyone that actually defends it has autism.
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>>256814058
wait are you talking wii port or gamecube origional
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>>256811447
Fuck off, Arin
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>>256809504
>>/v/ suddenly hates skyward sword
>>/v/ suddenly hates OoT
>>/v/ suddenly hates Metroid: Other M
never change, /v/
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>>256814297
Don't bother, he's just baiting
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>>256809504
>except for all these things that are wrong with it, this game is perfect

You forgot wagglan and a worse water temple since the fucking Water Temple.
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>>256814208
i didnt say it was a good game
but the controls wasnt what made it bad
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>>256814297
Game has input delay either way, but Wii port.
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>>256814450
The Ancient Cistern was a GOOD temple though. It's one of the few good Water Temples.

OoT's was shit, Majora's Mask's was godawful, Twilight Princess's was shit, and Wind Waker didn't have one.
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>>256814518
then play it on gamecube faget
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>>256814663
so windwaker is the best zelda game
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>>256809504
>suddenly
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The Nintendo Entertainment System 64 was released in 1996
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>>256814663
>>256814450
>Le wuter temple was the wurst maymay :^) pls U-boat
Also, all of the temples were way too easy and linear. If you're saying it's bad in the sense that you were lost then you must be a double nigger who can't play babies first zelda. They are as easily designed as the Crescent temple from zelda 1.
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>>256809504

If the game included fucking Fi, I'm pretty sure everyone on /v/ would've given it a 10/10
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>>256815324
/thread
Everyone go home
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>>256810582
>>256810582

Broken clock was right; the game was shit tier easy.

The puzzles are all of the terrible form "one trivially produceable input is the desired output", combat is reliant on motion controls and lacks interesting depth and difficulty, and the story, atmosphere, and exploration weren't strong enough to carry the experience as it did in Wind Waker.
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>/v/ suddenly hates CoD

There was literally a CoD fanboy thread on /v/ last night. I almost threw up.
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>>256814208
>anyone who disagrees with me has autism
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>>256815138
The Nintendo 64 is closer to the birth of 4chan than the PS4 and Xbone are.
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>>256814463
I agree with you to a dergree, however it made a barely competent game to an almost unplayable game. Unplayable in the sense that it's beyond frustrating, with the motion controls.

Obviously people have beaten it and it may just be a vocal minority (probably not), however you can't suggest that the controls did not ruin an already ruined game.
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>>256814463
this. The controls were tolerable.
The linear areas, lack of exploration, disappointing final boss fight among other things killed it
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>>256814993
No. All of Wind Waker's temples are garbage.
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>>256815456
>Combat is reliant on motion controls
>lacked depth
>Swinging a sword around to kill things is not fun
>there is no depth in learning the enemy's attack patterns and guard patterns in order to properly defeat them
>listening to what he says about windwaker when he was being a retard through it
The game was shit, but don't bad mouth shit that it did right.
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I came here for the lewds
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>>256809504
>Fi with Pupils
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>>256815868
Meanwhile, Twilight Princess has ALL of those issues, but worse. For fucks sake, Ganondorf does HALF A HEART per hit.

Zelda Cycle does it again.
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wait, then what zelda game DOES /v/ like
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>>256809504
I want to fuck Fi
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>>256816313
A Link to the Past and the original game, because Arin "More Chins than China Town" Hanson is their idol.
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>>256809504
>/v/ suddenly blah blah blah

Stop this. It invites shitposting, makes you sound like a retard, and there is no suddenly for anything. People just do.

Skyward Sword was one long disappointment, had a few nice elements but overall was shit, so shit in-fact that the guy behind it apologized. If that doesn't tell you how bad it is nothing will.
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>>256814450
>Skyward Sword
>wagglan
Waggle doesn't mean "motion controls that I don't like", it specifically refers to the shitty and lazy way of implementing motion controls by replacing what should be a button press with a flick of the wrist. The Wii version of TP, for example, was full of waggling. The only waggling in SS is flying the bird.

The motion controls are one of the few things the game did damn well. The sword gameplay is easily the best in the series. The simon-says encounters that makes up most of the game is a design flaw because they wanted to make it the easiest Zelda game to date, not a control issue.

It's the total lack of exploration, painted-on cues in the environment for every place that a puzzle-solving item can be used, terrible enemy design both visually and in combat tactics, thoughtless puzzles with only one notable exception towards the end of the game, and the fact that the entire game is practically one giant tutorial that never ends that makes it one of the weaker Zelda titles.
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I never played it, although I watched a full LP of it. I got tired of all the grinding and the shitty looking levels. What the fuck is with that game and sand and Mayan looking garbage?
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>>256816313
Mostly everything before OoT.

Then OoT, MM, and WW get split between rabid fanboys and people who call said fanboys either nostalgiafags (OoT) or Hipsters (MM and WW)
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>>256815538
What fuck is wrong with CoD?
inb4 "it brought cancer to videogames"
Cause that's what makes a video game terrible am I right?
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>>256816189
>people actually don't like twilight princess
>because of their shitty experience with it
I don't know, maybe I got a working copy, but the wii version is fun as fuck, and would have been more fun if it had SS' swordplay. The only problem I had was with shield bashing, which you had to do gently as fuck or it would read as a spin.
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It's not that it's a bad game

It's that it's a worse game than Darksiders
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>>256816401
What do you think it would feel like Anon?
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I actually still need to play SS, and I've been meaning to buy it, but why the fuck is it so expensive? Not to mention a lot of stores flat out don't carry it anymore. Is it out of print or something? It's not even that old.
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doesn't /v/ hate everything
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>>256816313
>/v/ is one person
lebbit, please leave
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>>256816493
Too bad it still ended up being harder than TP.
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>>256816654
Smooth Iron
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>>256814058
The sword itself in SS worked fine, and better than in TP, I'll give you that. Having to shake the nunchuk for different moves was horrible.

The problem with SS controls wasn't with the sword, but with the aiming. It was a pain in the ass though because it used the gyroscope instead of the IR sensor, so you had to recenter the controls just to keep the camera from going off on its own.

>>256814663
Wind Waker had that one dungeon where the water level raised and lowered on its own on the first floor. I have no idea what the point of that was because all it did was slow you down.
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>>256816313
I personally like MM, ALTTP, and the first one the best.
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>>256816642
I hope you're not implying anything here man, Darksiders is a damn fine game.
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>>256809504
>>/v/ suddenly
/v/ has never suddenly anything if your thinking they have you wrong, /v/ is very consistent with what they hate
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>>256809504
>Suddenly
No.
The overworld was shit.

Post more qt SS Zelda, you faggots.
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>>256816189
The battle with Ganondorf was at least longer, Demise doesn't even have any more forms
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>tfw xbone owners can't catch a break here

>>256813663
>But /v/ hates everything anyway
/v/ seem to like Sonic Battle/Ow the Edge, Spongebob Battle for Bikini Bottom, XCOM, DMC 1/3/4, Galaxy/Sunshine, every other 2D Zelda games+Zelda 2 (since they don't have a always angry fanbase), many more.

why are you implying your shitty anti-/v/ meme from 2011?

>inb4 b-but those games are shit and /v/ will eat them up
why don't you tell me your experiences with those games and a screencap as proof you played them?
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>>256816916
No, I like Darksiders. It's better than Skyward Sword, which wasn't a bad game.

It's just that Zelda is expected to be better than the third party copycats
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>suddenly hates
This is either:
-B8
-your first day here
-you haven't been paying attention since 2011
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>>256809504
>porn of Fi, showing panties
>not a SFW thread of gratuitous ass shots of Fi wearing panties
bastard son of bastards
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>>256814058
TP had ok gameplay, and great dungeons.
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/v/ hates Skyward Sword because it's not considered cool to like it, like it is considered "cool" to like Ocarina of Time. It's an "us gamers ;)" sort of thing, to pretend to not like Skyward Sword.
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>>256817102
Fair enough i can agree with that.

>>256817268
2/10 you'll get some people. Should have used MM for the "cool" part as everyone seems to be jerking to to that game these days for some fucking reason.
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>>256816313
Minish Cap was my favourite
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>>256817209
The first three dungeons were dogshit and took WAY too long to go through. The second half had good dungeons though. INCLUDING the mansion.
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Skyward Sword gave us Bomb Bowling...
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that fat, round butt

I want to bite it
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>>256817206
Might as well
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>>256816654
Like putting your dick on cold metal
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>>256817434
>mfw it's a Capcom game

I miss good Capcom.
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Best zelda is FSA, prove me wrong.
Protip: you can't
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>>256817516

>>256817573
I loved FSA
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>>256814389
>/v/ suddenly hates Metroid: Other M
at least try with your b8, i see other m in fucking bargain bins and tesco
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>>256817426
>2/10 you'll get some people. Should have used MM for the "cool" part as everyone seems to be jerking to to that game these days for some fucking reason.
No, because MM is actually a good game. So people don't like it. Nobody on this board likes MM.

But everyone loves OoT. The game where you push blocks in to holes, bomb walls with giant cracks in them to show you that you're supposed to bomb it, and press B to kill most enemies in one hit. It's the definition of a shitty, overrated game.
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>>256817268
I thought its was great
>has played all zelda's except the gameboy color ones
I couldn't take TP's controls on wii, maybe I should've just played the gamecube version.

I thought SS was good, the overworld wasn't anything special, it was like OoT's overworld, but I liked flying the bird and the flying was peaceful.

>dat music
>fuck egoraptor
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>>256811354
Wow, I came in here literally to say this.

Also, having to cut around different colored Bokoblin shields gets old after the first twenty hours or so.
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>>256817664
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>>256817721
>not understanding what posts mean
hownu.ru
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>>256817739
>Nobody on this board likes MM.

Stopped reading right there, it's clear you've never been in a Zelda thread before.
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>>256813194
I thought so too before I played it on my old crt instead of my HDTV.
Don't be a pleb and get a real tv.
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>>256817865
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>>256816547
Yes, you're right, and that's exactly why /vg/ was made.

Rather than analyze what's wrong with CoD, it's much easier to discuss what's good about it. And the discussion ended right there.
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>>256817508
>not wanting Piper's milf booty

>>256817554
It was Flagship specifically, who no longer exists. The director was the director of Skyward Sword too.

Quite a few people from Flagship went on to join Game Republic and eventually Tango though.
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>>256818009
One person probably said something along the lines of "it's not that bad of a game", and you took it as "it's the greatest game ever conceived", because you can't stand it when people like the game.
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>>256809504
>Other than the padding and fucking Fi
>Two things that haunts all throughout the game
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>>256817739
>MM is actually a good game.
Yeah, Recycled Assets and Fetchquests: The Game was so amazing and ahead of its time.
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>>256809504
>fucking Fi
whoa what's going on in this thread
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>>256818056
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>>256817508
The FUCK is that thing?
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>>256818180
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>/v/ suddenly hates
>/v/ suddenly hates
>/v/ suddenly hates

You people never learn.
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>all these FI pics
>they all have pupils
>wrongly proportioned
>missing details like the pattern on the tights

Is it just me or are "artists" getting lazier?
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Shield was practically useless because of durability. I just threw the useless piece of shit away and dodged everything.

Zeldas character design was awful and the story along with it. There was noting heroic or stimulating about chasing the boring generic childhood friend number 1236987571234.

Puzzles were good though.
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>>256818295

It's a bird.
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>the are people who think FSA isn't best zelda game
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>>256818321

>>256818418
No it's a plane
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>>256818163
The fact that you have to cherry pick the little bad and ignore the majority of the good things about the game proves how good it is, and it proves how the people who don't like it are huge hipsters.

No matter what you say, I want you to remember one thing - You are a person who thinks it's challenging and you genuinely feel accomplished when you push blocks in to holes, push statues on to switches, etc. so nothing you really say matters. You don't know what a good game is, so it doesn't really mean much when you say a game is good or bad.
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>>256818321
>>256818180
>>256818056
>>256817865
>>256817664
>>256810039
>>256809896
>>256809504
atleast this thread is good for something
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>>256818353
>Is it just me or are "artists" getting lazier?

>People draw what they want to draw the way they want to draw it
>Lazy
If anything it takes make because they aren't drawing literally the exact same thing all the time
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>>256818295

Ever since the resent surge of evidence that theropods had feathers people have been drawing them with different bird plumages.
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>Find Puzzle
>Camera Closeup of Puzzle
>Fi pops out of my ass and explains in-depth the background, motivations and solution of the puzzle
>Thanks Fi, almost felt smart for a fucking second trying to find eyeballs to shoot

>Obvious path for progression
>Camera shows me the path I need to take
>Fi explains to me the path I need to take
>Fi MARKS MY MINIMAP WITH THE PATH I NEED TO TAKE
>THEN MAKES THIS OBNOXIOUS BEEPING SOUND UNTIL I DOUSE FOR THE PATH I ALREADY KNOW I NEED TO TAKE

>There is a puzzle with finding things
>It's solved with dousing
>Literally just pointing my controller at the screen until something vibrates
>No clues of the environment or shit

>Find enemy
>leaves really obvious openings
>FUCKING MOTION CONTROLS
>Lose 5 hearts trying to swing my sword the right way to kill a puzzle enemy


>Every boss key is a really annoying rotation puzzle that is only hard because of the controls requiring a wrist that can rotate 360° in order to solve the puzzle in a timely fashion.
It is stupid on so many levels that make it a worse game than it needs to be.
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>>256818353
>Is it just me or are "artists" getting lazier?
They're not, MP is one of those who go for quantity over quality.

Think of it like the online version of fast food.
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>>256818480
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>>256818636
Its disturbing
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>>256818321
>>256818480
>that awful chicken scratching
goddamnit fucking commit to your lines asshole
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>>256818710
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>>256809504
Zelda II is the best Zelda game ever. Come at me fagtrons
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I like all the Zelda games.
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>>256818638
this is a fucking T.
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>>256818382
>Shield was practically useless because of durability. I just threw the useless piece of shit away and dodged everything.
I liked the shield system a lot. The durability only drops if you mistime a block. Not to mention that you could buy a self-regenerating shield and it made earning the invulnerable Hylian Shield feel really damn good.
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>>256818842
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>>256809504
>other than the padding
>I know its not perfect

Suddenly? No. SS was shit to begin with. The clashing mix of TP and WW artstyles didn't help. Motion controls for a sword are a cool idea. Fucking retarded in execution.
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>>256818878
I loved it too, and that's why I liked the first Adventure Time game
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>>256818878
Literally the only Zelda game I don't enjoy, apart from the shitty ones that don't count like Oracles and Minish Cap.
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What is this blue character?
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>>256809504
>fucking Fi
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>>256809504
Well of course /v/ suddenly hates Skyward Sword. How the fuck else you do you think people are supposed to hate a game that is suddenly released in it's entirety. It's not fucking episodic. When you suddenly release a game, people will play it and suddenly dislike it because it was shit. Unless you watched trailers then I suppose it's okay to dislike the game before it came out more and more as you realize what a pile of shit it will be, then be surprised when it's an even bigger pile of shit of shit than you though possible.
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>>256818989
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>>256814058
>Not playing it on the GameCube like it was intended

What's it like to be unburdened by thought?
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>>256818878
agreed
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>>256818638
Fuck off, the boss keys were a good part of the game.
They were all unique and related to the dungeon in some way.
And you sucking at motion controls is your own fault.
Fi is inexcusable though, I agree on that part.
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>>256819157

>>256819067
HOLY ASS
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>>256819046
>oracles
>minish cap
>shitty
They were good games, what's your problem with them?
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>>256819057
She's SS's obligatory handholder character.

Nintendo were scared you might actually have to think about a puzzle at some point.
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>>256819067
Best pic in the thread, and not just because of dat ass.

>mfw i like Fi but hate SS
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>>256818968
>Hylian Shield

I don't think I would've been able to pull off my retarded win against the last boss w/o that shield. Kept deflecting his attacks and following up with single strikes for some reason. Didn't find out until after I beat him that I could've absorbed the lightning strikes and used that instead.
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>>256819317
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>>256819414
I did the same thing. Never occurred to me to actually use skyward strike as an attack though the entire game, I just used it for switches.
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What's with the lewd obsession with Fi?
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>>256819317
>Arms
>Treetrunk thighs
>Normal eyes
>STONKING GREAT TITS
>Stocking are the same color as dress and have shit pattern detail
This isn't even Fi. Most of these pictures look nothing like the character beyond beling blue.
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>>256819462
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>>256809504
Can someone post a picture of Fi's asshole?
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>>256816482
>invites shitposting
>isn't shitposting in and of itself
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>>256819614
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>>256819579

This is a bit more accurate but terribly drawn
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>>256819579
>oh no, fanart doesn't actually represent the original
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>>256818878
Not many people are going to come at you, since it's an unpopular game in general and therefore loved on /v/.

Not to suggest that you're just being contrarian. It's perfectly normal that many people could find it to be the best Zelda game ever. It just means they're not fans of the Zelda series in general, so the game that plays least like a traditional Zelda game can appeal to them more.

I finished it. I didn't hate it, but it is by a very large margin my least favorite Nintendo-developed Zelda game.
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>>256816594
TP had better swordplay than SS. It also wasn't fun as fuck though because you rarely ever get to use the fucking swordplay. It's not even how easy the puzzles or enemies are. It'd be one thing to be easy but still use the gameplay mechanics in a way to make it interesting but everything dies too fucking quick to put up a fight and most things have no combat sense at all.
Also the plot was at contrast with how dead the world felt. It was shallow and empty but kept trying to pretend it wasn't.
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>>256819579
Welcome to 99% of fan art. You basically just draw your fetishes and then give it some superficial details of the character you're supposed to be drawing.

Like all those pictures of Fran from FF12 where she has tits bigger than her head and an ass to match.
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>>256819570

She has no arms and is a sword
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>mfw all this lewd Fi
it's literally all she's good for
what a shitty character, I thought it was hilarious how the game thought we cared when she left at the end.
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>>256809765
>>256809504

Its the nintenshilling

They regularly try to cleanse the rep of their shittastic games

Just mark and ignore
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>>256819785
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>>256819370
Minish Cap is the most boring and bland Zelda ever made
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>>256818080

/vg/ wasn't made because of CoD, /vg/ was made specifically because of ASSFAGGOTS
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>>256819905
whats wrong with that
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>>256818989
huh, it took this picture to help me realize how similar Fi looks to the fairy queen in Wind Waker.
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>>256819916
Didn't Hyrule Historia confirm she has arms?
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>>256819982
Does she have lobsters for arms?
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>>256820103
You're pretty slow.
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>>256820103

Well I just beat the Fire dungeon on TP
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These people need to stop giving her facial expressions.
She doesnt have any you fags.
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>>256820313
Jesus christ, how much of Fi did Maniacpaint do?
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>>256820313
>>256820313
whups didnt mean to reply to that guy
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The Zelda series is like my abusive husband that I just keep coming back to. He hasn't been very nice to me over the years and he's constantly insulting my intelligence because he feels superior, but every once in a while, he'll do one thing nice for me (MM, WW, ALBW) that makes me stick around under the false assumption that he's turning over a new leaf.
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>>256820164

She's a sword spirit so she could probobally grow some, sort of like how Girahim disguised his true self.

>>256819967

They only did that to explain why she doesn't show up to future links despite obtaining the master sword.

She'll probobally re-awaken in the next Zelda game.
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>>256819570
>A true warrior's sword is an extension of himself
>Not taking that a step further by fucking it during adventures

You clearly do not have the will of the warrior
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>>256820479

>>256820397
Two left m8
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>>256816493
>The only waggling in SS is flying the bird.
You mean the sword fighting. The sword fighting was literally all waggling. The bird flying was literally controlling the bird pretty much 1:1 the thing the sword fighting doesn't do at all. The sword fighting was waggle button macros, the bird had good tilt control in that respect and was about the only fucking thing in the game they actually did right for controls.

The motion controls especially when it comes to sword, beetle or harp were done poorly and lost calibration constantly and were buggy as shit. Using the gyro for bow/sling was also done badly and was done better in TP with IR.

It had major control issues.
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>>256820315
You can't expect anything accurate from people who draw fetish pics all day long anon, it's the fetish that comes first then it's the character.
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>>256820630
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>>256820630
>Fi watching Link hold a bomb for to long.jpg
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>>256820681

>boring/unimaginative.


People more complained about the gameplay far more than anything else.
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>>256819414
>Kept deflecting his attacks and following up with single strikes for some reason.
I did exactly the same thing. I came out of that intense fight barely victorious after depleting all my bottles thinking "Wow, that might be my favorite final boss!"
I was rather disappointed when I saw the Youtube videos.
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>>256820883
And that's the last one I got, for those who can't read filenames the artist is maniacpaint
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>>256820663
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEge_2Vuft0
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>>256820681

>Best Zelda
>Best
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>>256819370
Oracles were shit. Minnish was good but could have done some things better. Adding items for after you beat the game is pretty retarded though. Seriously, you beat the fucking thing. The shield has pretty much no use now - the game is over.
If they let you play a harder mode and keep it or something then that wouldn't be too bad, but nope.Just adding items for after you've already pretty much been everywhere and done everything.
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>>256816662
Pirate it dipshit

Who the fuck buys games for a console you can softmod?
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YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE SKYWARD SWORD DID RIGHT? CLIMBING
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>sexualizing the calculator

i like it
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>>256811436
>This tired old excuse again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEge_2Vuft0

The motion controls are flawless. Move your arms properly, fatty.
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>>256816654
It'd feel like fucking a hologram. IE air. Fi doesn't fucking exist. Fi is a fucking generated holographic program integrated into a high tech sword. So, it'd feel like thrusting into air.
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The motion controls were actually pretty fucking good. If you hate them, it means you're just bad at videogames.
Except the swimming. That was awful.
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>>256821549
Flawlessly broken. We know. Feel free to stop using debunked videos.
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>>256821749
>tfw your waifu is air
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>>256821749
But what if she moaned accordingly to the thrusts and she acted like if she did felt it and loved it?
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/v/ always hated Skyward Sword.

I personally like it, for a 3D Zelda it's got some amazing highs and bad lows, and I'm easily willing to overlook the lows because of that.
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>>256821814
Swimming actually worked better than most everything else. I'm guessing you're just terrible at the game to bitch about swimming but not everything else. I don't really know how you can be that fucking terrible that you can bitch about the few things that were implemented in a fashion where they actually worked okay but defend broken as fuck as shit.
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>>256821749

>Fi is a hologram.

Nah, because she's the same kind of entity as Girahim and he can physically beat you within an inch of your life [tongue wiggling intensifies]
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>>256821016
The gameplay is what I was referring to on the "boring and unimaginative" thing.
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>>256822002
Whatever. I didn't say you couldn't, I just said it'd feel like thrusting into air. You can write a program to mocap you with a webcam and react to your thrusts on screen, it'd be pretty much the same.
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>>256821325

People who want to support game companies and the ecosystem that supports them? If everyone was a piratefag, no one could be a piratefag.
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>>256821906
>Gets BTFO by a single video
>Still tries to deny it
My fucking sides. There's no way my little anon can be this pathetic.
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>>256822004
I have to admit...I enjoyed Peatrice in SS for some reason.
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>>256822240

>Flying on birds
>Totally new sword swinging
>Time stones
>Sand sea

I think that was fine, people just didn't like getting interrupted. It was plenty creative.
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>>256822004
>nobody likes Mallara

;___;
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>>256822004
It's a shame, she seemed like a nice and down to earth girl. If she wasn't unattractive I would have said you know what, Zelda can go fuck off and do whatever.
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>>256809504
>that pic
fuck
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>>256822101
>implying they're not hard light holograms
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>>256820663
I'll give you everything but that sword. There was no excuse not to use IR for projectile tools and weapons.

But when it comes to the swordplay, I guess we just had completely different experiences. Sword combat in SS felt fucking amazing for me. I only once had to manually recalibrate, and that was during the pumpkin-shooting minigame which seems precision-designed to fuck up the gyroscopes in the most effective way possible.

Given the wildly different claims from so many different people, I guess it's safe to say that it varies depending on your setup. Some people clearly have problems with the motion controls that aren't solely due to their poor coordination. I guess it has to do with a lot of environmental factors. In any case, I was not one of those people. For me, the sword controls worked flawlessly. So much so that I'm kind of disappointed that we won't have similar sword controls in the upcoming Wii U Zelda.
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>tfw you will never be Fi
>tfw you will never proclaim "Master, there is a 98% chance of impregnation while using this position."
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>>256822453
why would you want the bitch too lazy to clean her house you know that sky pussy is as dusty as her house
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I didn't liked Wind Waker and Twilight Princess that much, I didn't hate them either, they're still great games, but not as awesome as Majora's Mask, but I really loved Skyward Sword. The art direction is really awesome and I liked the new gameplay with the Wii Motion Plus, the Zelda franchise really needs some need fresh ideas, and it worked really well for me. I understand the hate of motion controls, it can be annoying and it's not 100% accurate, which can be really frustrating, but I loved it.

But yeah, the game isn't perfect, it can be a bit tedious and boring at times, and Fi don't know when to shut the fuck up. I'm glad Nintendo is aiming at more open Zelda games now, ALBW was great in that regard, and it looks like the next Zelda game will be inspired open world games, so it's great.

I hope they won't forget about great motion controls implementations, aiming with the gyro of the gamepad works extremly well in that Samus mini game in Nintendo Land for exemple, I expect to see stuff like that and not the old boring buttons and sticks interactions we've been eating since Jesus Christ.
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Do not sexualize Fi
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>>256809504
I liked Fi.
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>>256822597
>>256817516
Christ
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>>256809504
>have to try and dive then climb with wagglan because apparently birds cant flap their fucking wings
>having the most annoying helper character in the world
>game bothers you every 15 minutes to take a break or every 5 if your battery happens to be low
>wagglan wants you to be precise even though the, admittedly improved over stock, motion plus controls cant formulate where it is supposed to quickly at all
>shitty overworld that makes WWs island system look like a master piece
>re-using the same levels

Just to name a few
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>>256822597
Hng
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>>256822665
I think it was less that she was lazy and more she wanted Link's D.
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>>256822761
I found her dancing and ballet to be elegant and graceful.
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>>256822597
Why do they have to look at me like that?
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>tfw Hyrule Warriors will redeem Fi

oh bby
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>>256822761
>dat subtle butt cheek
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>>256823182
>She gets character beyond being the useless sidekick
Thank you based Hyrule Warriors.
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>>256822761
Fi is a stupid fuck slut and should be treated as such
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>>256823115
Except during that one pose where she had her mouth gaping open and looked like she was screaming at you.
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>>256823305
I am going to fucking kill you
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>>256821549
You said the motion controls are flawless and then showed a video of 100% swordplay
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>>256820681
>Best Zelda
>Tetra
>Knowledgeable
>Actually Helpful
>Kinda cute in her playfulness, despite also being cynical

>SS Zelda
>Brash Tomboy
>Brash Tomboy
And Most Importantly
>Brash Tomboy
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>>256823305
TAKE IT EASY BATEMAN
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>>256823182
I would agree if it wasn't for the fact that everyone will be too busy playing as Ganondorf or Zelda to even notice her.
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>>256823512

Cynical? When was that?
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>>256822547
Sword loses calibration all day erry day. You can't go fucking two swings without having to tap down, it was best to just hit down after nearly every swing because of it. It also didn't matter because the sword was were just the 8 directions, a spin and a charge attack really. Which isn't that interesting. TP effectively better by having enemies weaker or strong against certain things and could read them - like the dark knuckles or the flying fucks with shields. But you could also do other tactics if you hit them and it was in that respect was far more like sword fighting than Skyward. Plus with the subweapons were integrated into the fight fluidly. You could swing, get blocked, do a special move and whip an arrow or claw into someone behind you with ease.
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>>256823448
Considering the swordplay is 100% motion controlled, yes, I did show that.
How observant of you.
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>>256823617
First Scenes in which we see her, flippant in her nature towards Link and the Islanders.
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>>256823919

Probably just first time post menstrual crankiness
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>>256823620
I think your remote might have been broken, because I've never had issues like that.
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>>256809504
anyone have the comic with links dick cut in half and fi saying that this was 100% a bad idea?
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>>256824279
Yes, it was posted earlier in the thread.
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>>256824112
Still, better than SS Zelda, the Only Characters in that whole game that were any good were Groose and Ghirahim
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>>256822547
>Some people clearly have problems with the motion controls that aren't solely due to their poor coordination.

Seems to be software related for as much as I can tell. Wii sports motion has the same issues with sword fighting - it was notorious for it. I can't really recall other third party games with the same issues at all, at least definitely nowhere near as bad. It seems to be Nintendo software with these problems.
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>>256824279
see >>256819832
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>>256821549
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEge_2Vuft0
>angles are off half the time from the way he swings
>flawless

ok
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>>256823115
I found it poorly choreographed and creepy as shit.
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>>256823620
I wonder, did you have the IR sensor bar in its normal position during gameplay? In my experiments, it seems to use IR to calibrate the sword on-the-fly. I notice that when I point my remote at the screen for half a second, Link's sword will suddenly and silently realign itself. That didn't seem to occur when I was too close, too far, or the sensor bar wasn't facing me.
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>>256824132
It's not.
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>you will never slap fi's butt like the slut she is
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>>256824986
>Implying I enjoy slapping robot butt
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>>256825074
>not enjoying robot butt slapping
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>>256825231
>Messed my hand up Robutt slapping
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>>256824597
>Link's sword will suddenly and silently realign itself.
Yeah it does that supposing you're actually pointing your wiimote at the thing for half a second. Occasionally because of that it also inverts up and down because the wii is dick at realizing up from down using the sensor bar. That shit is always fun, swing up... oh no that's down silly me. And like most internet suggestions it's clearly me fucking up and moving my hand in an inverted shadow dimension when I shouldn't have.
So many problems caused by poor hardware and poor software and then retards blame the player. PS3 Move didn't have that problem.
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>>256824521
>Everything performs exactly as he wants it to perform
>Not flawless
As I said, get good and actually move your arms, fatty. The game has plenty of problems, but controls aren't one of them.
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>>256825363
Well, I think it is your problem because I didn't experience that at all.
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>>256825565
Well, yeah it's my problem, playing a badly made game. Until I turn it off it is my problem.
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>>256825565
Eh, the controls were great for me and I've been defending them in this thread, but I think handwaving it as 'your problem' isn't helping.

If the controls work flawlessly for some of us and are hopelessly broken for others in a large enough minority that it can't be explained by defective hardware, then there's a pretty big consistency issue that needs to be looked at.
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>>256825363
> the wii is dick at realizing up from down using the sensor bar

The sensor bar is just two IR lights, it doesn't actually do anything.

Your problem is either in the Wiimote or the way you're swinging it.
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>>256823512
I'm pretty partial to Spirit Tracks Zelda myself. That freakout scene in the beginning where she pretty much intimidates Link into recovering her body.
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>>256825354
You're not sticking your arm out of a moving roller coaster; you're slapping an ass. At worst your hand might sting a little.
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>>256825410
>exactly as he wants to preform

He does multiple side to side slashes that do an angled slash. If you could actually watch more than one thing at a time instead of being retarded you would see that. You would also see how it is definitely delayed when he tries to hold the sword out at literally any point.

Try again.
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>aiming my sword
I don't think I need to explain this. Not to mention how retarded Link looks carrying his sword directly ahead of him all game.
>that flying system that's beyond clunky and shitty
I cannot fathom how they let this shit into a finished game. Even without the waggling to control it, my fucking bird was totally unable to ascend at a satisfactory pace. Fucking AWFUL.
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>>256826297
Did I mention the Robot was Clanker?
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>>256826192
>The sensor bar is just two IR lights, it doesn't actually do anything.

Yes it does. It gives IR points to from the detector on the wiimote for the wii to triangulate position, Given it's two points and symmetrical nature it can't tell up/down or left/right apart properly. If the wiimote gets confused it will calibrate upside down and because upside down looks the same as right side up it's okay with that. An ingeniously bad engineering concept.
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>>256824339

>Groose

He fucking sucked.


Now Ghirahim, he was the man.
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>>256826423
>Not to mention how retarded Link looks carrying his sword directly ahead of him all game.
Aiming in front is fine, holding your sword arm completely sideways while you run however is a little wut.
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>>256826665
Groose was good in terms of Development, in that he had a character, but Ghirahim, I have to agree with, simply because more villains need to be creepers like him.
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>>256826719
>Aiming in front is fine
No it's not. He runs around the whole fucking game with his sword pointed straight ahead. It's moronic.
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>>256826719
>Aiming in front is fine, holding your sword arm completely sideways while you run however is a little wut.
Well, you don't want to stab yourself if you fall on your face.
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>>256826364
There's no need to try again. You've already shown that you are making things up in a desperate attempt to save face. He swings to the left, Link swings to the left. He swings to the right, Link swings to the right. He does an angled slash, guess what Link does? That's right, he does an angled slash.
Describe to me how it feels to be BTFO.
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>>256826896
Well, I wasn't suggesting you hold it by the blade end obviously. Pointy end goes forward not backwards.
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>>256826719
Proper tool handling involves holding the edge away from yourself in case of a fall, and if you're carrying a sword you want to hold it upwards and on your side, not right in front of you while running
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>>256826551
>Yes it does. It gives IR points to from the detector on the wiimote for the wii to triangulate position

So it's two IR lights that don't actually do anything. I didn't say said lights weren't used by the overall system.

The Wiimote detects its positioning via the gyroscope, the IR lights are for depth and location.
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>>256827085
Well, the pommel also hurts.

Also, there are millions of ways to fall on your face, and one of those will eventually result in you getting stabbed by your sword.

so considering that, it's best to play safe.
There's a reason ninjas ran like that.
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>>256827085
People held their swords by the blade end sometimes

It had a lot of uses
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>>256827947
not while running, though.
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>>256822597
>Half human, half imp midna
Yes, Yes!


>>256823512
SS Zelda is the only Zelda with a personal connection to Link. She is objectively the best. Tetra was just an annoying tsundere tomboy, who really wasnt all that heplful.

SS Zelda also heas the best design, aside from her nose and will hopefully be present in Zelda U.
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>>256827265
>holding the edge away from yourself in case of a fall.
Carrying a sword is not falling. You can twist wrist or shift your arm so the sword is out of the way. Pointing it forward while you run around is fine since anything that comes out or rushes you will find the pointy end of a sword and you can use the tip to trace to feel out things or twist wrist to throw dirts or rocks.

>>256827613
>Also, there are millions of ways to fall on your face, and one of those will eventually result in you getting stabbed by your sword.
More than one. In fact, take any example of holding you want to pretend is the safest way to hold the sword now flail your hand toss the sword so it spins into your face. Congratulations you just made an an argument to not hold it in that position and you can do that for every position you could possibly hold it in. So apparently the best way to not stab your face with a sword by that logic is to be as far away from a sword as possible.
Now, reasonable people might consider there's more to using a sword absolute worst case scenarios and they might actually have some degree of control over their bodies.

>There's a reason ninjas ran like that.
No, Ninjas ran like omg - I'm late for dinner so I can poison this fucker while looking and acting like normal servant, fuck, better not carry fucking sword around with me because that'd be suspicious as fuck and go against the entire point of being a ninja.
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>>256828039

>SS Zelda is the only Zelda with a personal connection to Link.

All of them but TP end up having one.


Also MC Link and Zelda had one at the start. Pretty sure Link and Zelda would as well in any game that had a direct sequel.
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>>256828039
Spirit Tracks Zelda and Minish Cap Zelda were both childhood friends with Link, from what I recall.
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>>256809896
>Maniac Paint's pony shit
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>>256828224
>someone taps the sword in the direction that your shield is
>wide open
>dead
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>>256828224
God damn, you are fucking retarded.
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>suddenly
It's can't be suddenly because people were trying to use "the zelda cycle" to discount the hatred that the game received as soon as it was released.
Shit thread.
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>>256828248
Oh yeah, there was such a great connection between them in OoT where she just gave orders, and WW where she just gave orders, annd PH where she just got captured and did nothing.

>>256828352
I cant remember much about MC, and never played ST after the abomination that was PH. Fuck revisiting the same damn temple over and over.
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>>256828039
>Annoying Tsundere Tomboy
She approaches Link and outright apologises humbly for getting him caught up in all of this after she goes into hiding

>Not Helpful
>Took Link to Forsaken Fortress
>Allowed the Pirates time in Windfall so Link could return to Outset, knowing that he'll deny them the treasure there
>Fights besides you in the Final Battle against Ganon, having already defended you from him once Prior, as well as drawing away the Helmaroc king

SS Zelda just went into a slumber for the majority of the game
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>>256820883
>there's a 80% chance of me getting a boner from this picture
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>>256829110
>not 100%
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>>256827947
No, that's holding the sword across you, that's still not a smart thing to do with that block.

Holding a sword by the blade end means to have the tippity toppity poke-ity prickly bit pointed at you. That's holding a sword 'by the blade end.'

Here's an example of half swording where they grab the forte to stab. And a wonderful block from a fellow holding out his sword by the blade end for no apparently good reason other than to mock his would be killer with his inability to fight a properly trained swordsman.
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fucking fi

fucking slut

fucking slutty fuck slut
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>>256817516
Lord help me, dem hips....
Why is 2D so perfect
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>>256828980

Perhaps you should replay the games and pick up more closely on the chemistry.


All dat chemistry
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>>256809504
It's a great game, definitely a hundred times better action adventure than shit like Tomb Raider or Uncharted.

It's a terrible Zelda, though, it completely spits on almost everything that made Zelda great once. No exploration at all, everything is forced, it plays like an open air dungeon crawler, no semi open world anymore, not even a day and night cycle.

>>256809838
Absolutely no one cares about this attention whoring Youtube faggot, anon. He probably has an IQ of 85 and is fat.
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>>256828401
>someone whips a gigantic hammer into your body, your sword collides with it, the sword and hammer slam into your body and crushes your bones instantly
>wide open
>dead
Oh well. Looks like playing things that can kill you in any circumstances is a really helpful thing to do.
It's a shame I didn't have my sword pointed out in front to give me an extra push and slight reaction time to fall backwards.
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>>256830024
>Good Game
>Terrible Zelda
This. More fun an imaginative that current Action Adventure titles, but the worst 3D Zelda entry in the entire series.
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>>256830391
Terrible Game
Really Terrible Zelda.
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>>256829068

Is it time yet
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>>256830634
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>>256830634
It's always time.
If she's got your picture on her wall and you just met, the girl's mad 'bout you son.
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>>256830826
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>Fucked up the lore
>Dumb character designs
>Dumb babby's first waifu Zelda
>Handholding everywhere
>Puzzles aren't even puzzles, they're boring exercises in monotony that require no thought
>Overworld sucked
>Wonky controls half the time

That's why SS is bad
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>>256828039
>aside from her nose
It'd kind of wierd, her face is kind of weird. But that's okay. It's kind of humanizing without being hideous.
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>>256809504
It was always the worst 3D Zelda. Not a horrible game, but just too flawed to be recommendable.
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>>256830826

>If she's got your picture on her wall and you just met
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>>256831450
SS is hit and miss with the character designs. It has some really great character design and some awful character design. It's kind of mixed.

Everything else, absolutely.
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>>256830826
>the girl's mad 'bout you son.
She wants to fuck is what that means. If you just met she doesn't know shit about you, so she sure as fuck isn't mad 'about you.' She's mad about getting some D and you look like a piece of meat to her.
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>>256832162

That's not what it means in medevial fantasy land though
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>>256815324
As long as its a hatefuck. Preferably ending in her horrible death. Easily the worst LoZ companion.
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>>256830826

What does it mean if she has a picture of her mother on the wall?
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>>256821978
Do you have the other version of this pic where he's holding his arms up with his eyes closed?
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>>256832805
The same as you having a picture of your family in your home, take that as you will.
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I'm replaying Squidward Sword now on Hero Mode (I pussied out and started using the Heart Medal though, got tired of having to spend all my time hunting fairies and hitting up the potion shop) and I've got to say, the padding is fucking unreal. I just got the damn tadtones and Batreaux is a human, and I"m ready for the game to be over. But I still have a lot to do, including one of the shittiest Zelda dungeons in the series to get the Triforce. Ugh.
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>>256832401
>Preferably ending in her horrible death
I'd pay for a hate-rape-murder game involving Fi. If she didn't tingle insistently whenever something new (that I already knew because of the previous fucking cutscene) came up and learned to shut the fuck up, she'd be mildly bearable.

That's also my fetish.
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>>256832968

Hot.
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>>256819241
Grab key.
Rotate it for a while and find the solution.
Rotate some more.
Not that into the game to dislocate my wrist so I let go of the key.
Align the Wiimote perfectly with how I want to rotate it.
Grabs the key wrong.
Try to rotate it from that position.
Fail miserably.
Try five more times to get it right.

As for motion controls they only work 5 times out of 10. I can execute a perfect horizontal swing and it won't register properly.

Things I missed out on complaining about.
>There is a lot of pointless filler
>Oh hey look, this windmill is broken
>I spent 10-15 minutes putting that shit back together
>There wasn't any combat, story or puzzles
>Just talking to people
>Fuck

I'm going to have to take a break from Skyward Sword until I can get the emulator to stop crashing when I try to enter through the trial gate.
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>>256832968
>The same as you having a picture of your family in your home, take that as you will.
I'll consider that pretty disgusting then. I don't hang family pictures on the wall and the only reason I would is if I fell into some sort of crazed incestuous infatuation.
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>>256825410
No, the controls are the problem (among other things).
Just stop being a fucking fanboy, used to be a dumbass fan boy too, but Phantom Hourglass, Spirit Tracks, and Skyward Sword fixed this Nintendo need to stop with the "innovative" controls because it really fucks up their games.
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Nice favoritism janitor
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Nigger, plenty of people have hated the game since it came out.

I didn't, but I can certainly understand the points that make it unlikeable for some.

>Motion controls, while far better done than the TP Wii port, are an acquired taste that you either love or hate
>Fi's handholding can be excruciating unless you have a great amount of patience, though I admit Nintendo should have patched it to make her bits skippable
>Game is far more linear than any other title, which is a subjective matter, some like linearity, others don't
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>>256834784
I'd much rather TP Wii's motion controls over SS's.
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>>256834240
HE DOES IT FOR FREE
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There an archive or .rar of maniacpaint's work somewhere?
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>>256819067

Now if only Yuqoi would fix this Zelda picture. He seems to have learned to NOT do impossible spinal movements anymore
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>>256835027

TP didn't even really have motion controls, it was just simplistic crap like "thrash the controls to shake off enemies" or "basic waggle to do sword strikes"
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>>256835515
That's why I would rather it over SS's, closest thing to being a button press while having the stupid motion controls.
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>>256830024
H-how do you get in the bathtub with Zelda's dad?

Also fuck, why does this game give you so many rupees? I haven't even touched many of the Goddess chests yet, everything is upgraded and I bought all of Beedle's shit and I still have 2400 rupees.
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>>256834784

I considered SS less linear than TP, if only by virtue that SS had more side content. There was so little to do in TP, and it was so spread out/empty that you were more or less just ushered to the next dungeon.
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>>256836165

Eh, they're kind of the same, but in different ways.

TP let you explore everything almost freely after the third dungeon, while SS kind of pushed you to go here or there before opening up the next area. As for side-stuff, they're kind of equal. TP had hearts and treasure to find, but didn't give you much incentive for the latter, whereas SS does at least give you reason to find more cash since shit isn't cheap like it normally is in Zelda games.
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>>256833961
Now I just want to watch all of Red Dwarf again.
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>>256830024
That midna part really hit hard. I really wanted another companion as cool as midna, instead I got some calculator harp cunt.
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Gee it sure is boring around here
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>>256837451

MUH BOI, this shitposting is what all 4channers strive for!
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>>256837151
You got what you wanted. Midna was fucking terrible.
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>>256809504
fi is such a sweety dirty girl.
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If Fi is more or less a sword

What does she shit?
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I hate SS not because of the poorly implemented sword controls, but because the entire combat system is fucking awful and does everything it can to bring out the flaws with the controls. People say how you need to learn the patterns but there are no fucking patterns. Every time you fight a bokoblin you're playing Simon. "Don't swing at the area being blocked" isn't a fucking puzzle. All of the difficulty comes from getting the controller to do what you want, not figuring out what you're supposed to do. The enemies barely ever actually swing at you, they just sit there blocking and it makes the combat boring. It doesn't even look cool, it looks like fucking Simon. SS needed more enemies like mobilns, running up the shield to get at their back was actually really fun but there just wasn't enough enemies like them, just more fucking bokoblin reskins.
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>playing skyward sword for a few hours
>my wrists get so sore that they feel like they're going to seize up.

I haven't touched it since. I made it up to the place with the lava. All that waggling murdered my wrist.
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What's the lewdest thing in Zelda games?
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>>256809504
I started playing it last night, got passed the first dungeon today

>Intro feels like it goes on forever
>Stopped by something talking to you or some short cutscene of Link looking around a room every ten seconds
>Motion controls make doing every little thing a pain in the ass
>Stamina
>Shield durability
>MotionPlus gimmicks in combat

I paid full price for it so I'll try a little more of it but so far I hate it
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>>256838667
The hug from Majora's Mask.
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>>256838667
Fishing up the Mermaid's Bra in Link's Awakening*

*Japanese version only
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>>256838738
The combat isn't too terrible if you ignore the sword and just shield bash everything. The timing isn't hard.
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>>256839192
That's what I've been doing, ignoring the whole "swing in the right direction" thing and just parrying. The motion controls still make that imprecise, though.
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>no magic
>half-hour intro
>combat revolves around one gimmick and is consequently shallow
>no cave of ordeals
>sidequests are tacked on, especially the goddess cube stuff
>game is incredibly linear, nothing is optional and by the end, the super inquisitive player will have seen the same amount as the player who let the game hold their hand (as if they had a choice)
>"town" areas are tiny compared to other games, NPCs, while well designed, have little character, especially compared to MM
>overworld is a "hub", the only secrets contained within are the goddess cubes and the chests they spawn, you won't be finding any cool new areas because you're taken straight to them in a beam of light
>Dowsing is dumb, no explanation needed
>Fi is dumb, no explanation needed
>fighting Ghirahim and Imprisoned three times with little change between each fight is filler, no justifying it
>the minigames are hit and miss, with some (harp and bamboo slashing) pretty much being ruined by motion controls

tl;dr too many shit risks and not much to make up for it
Skyward Sword is easily the worst 3D Zelda title. Still worth a playthrough though.
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>>256839365
just keep the wiimote still and waggle the nunchuk. You don't need a specific motion for the shield bash, just shake the thing with proper timing. It'll get easier when you get the self repairing shield so that there's no penalty for fucking up.
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>>256838285
i want to eat her shit, whatever it is.
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>>256839728
>half an hour intro

Yes, so much worse than Twilight Princess' THREE HOUR INTRO.
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>>256839938
*one hour
I didn't really mention TP but it's better than SS purely because it makes up for its flaws with a good partner, decently challenging dungeons and really nice combat.
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>>256809504

It added bomb bowling...bomb bowling... boooomb booowling... bomb booowling
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>>256839938
I counted between half and hour to an hour before I could swing my sword or even got my sword.
I don't even think TP waited that long.
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>>256840284
It'd have good combat if you ever had a reason to do half the moves. Which you never do because it's too easy.
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>>256822597
>that version of Midna
Do fucking want.
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>>256840960
Sure, but its combat is the most difficult out of the five 3D Zeldas we have, and was therefore a step in the right direction. The swanky moves really shine when you get to the Cave of Ordeals and are forced to use them for the first time.
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