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http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2014/08/06/former-nintendo-exec-calls-wii-u-name-abysmal/

“Wii U is not selling as well as it deserves to. >It has a lot to offer with great games you can’t get anywhere else. The value of the GamePad hasn’t been justified. But the name Wii U is abysmal. I think that cut sales in half right there.”

Thoughts, /v/?
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What would you have called the Wii U if you were in charge?
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seventh gen console at the end of the seventh gen
terrible name
lack of major third party support
somewhat lack of notable titles
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It is a dumb name.
Should have called in the Super Wii.

Anyways, it's still the only console with games.

Now the next one is going to have a ridiculously awesome name.
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>>256703314
If you absolutely had to keep the "Wii" moniker on it then Wii 2 would have been leagues better. I would have just changed the name entirely. People are still not aware the Wii U is a new console and is not just a tablet controller for the Wii.
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>>256703314
Wii One so that people would call it "The One"
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>via IGN
>it's a quote from that twitter attention whore
>posting clickbait without pastebin

http://pastebin.com/snW3yAdZ
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>>256703314
wii 2 like every retard knows to do when a product sells well.
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>>256703314
Super Wii
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>>256703314
Nintendo HDS

Stands for "Home Dual-Screen" and also a play on it being the first HD console by Nintendo.
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>>256703602
>>it's a quote from that twitter attention whore

he isn't exactly wrong, though.
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>>256703419
also it had a gimmick for the sake of having a gimmick

how does that controller benefit y our gaming session in any way
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I've been saying this since the console was announced. It was very foolhearty of Nintendo to have put such little thought into the name.That said, this Indie Exec douche is going to have a hard time getting a new job in games if he keeps spouting insider info and his shitty opinion of Nintendo. Companies don't like to see a person who will defame a former employer in public.
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>>256703314
Ultra Nintendo.
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>>256703314
The looky loo
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>>256703732
The gamepad's actually my favorite thing about the Wii U.

I just want them to do more with it. They're slowly getting there, but it'd be nice if more companies were as interested in it.
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>>256703732
The asynchronous multiplayer stuff is actually really good.

And the off-tv play is decent as well.
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>>256703314
The WiiWii
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This guy isn't going to get a job anywhere after this, it's a good thing he says he "went indie". Few companies will want much to do with someone who will talk shit about them as soon as he's not affiliated with them anymore.
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why did they even call it wii u?
because you do a u-turn and walk away
XD
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>>256703314

THE RAD PAD.
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>>256704227
>asynchronous multiplayer

It's asymmetric you mongrel and we have had that sort of game for ages on PC.
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I long for the day when console start naming themselves like Capcom fighting game rereleases.

>Super Nintendo 1080 ULTRA!: Third Strike
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>>256703314
The Super Wii
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>>256703696
People would have confused it with the Nintendo DS though.
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>>256703419
Are you retarded?
It's not you who decides which generation a console belong to.
Also you're probably saying this because it's technically inferior to the two other supercharged computer.
Nintendo almost always do this, that's Gunpei Yokoi's lateral thinking for you, welcome to video games.
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Is he wrong?

Wii U is a terrible name.

When Nintendo added Wii as a prefix to practically everything the system had to offer. And a suffix less often. A new name could have REALLY helped differentiate the system from it's predecessor.

Seriously. Wii Fit, Wii Music, Wii Party, Wii Play, Wii Sports. How was the common consumer supposed to know "Wii U" wasn't just a tablet controller for the system?
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>>256703314
The Wiiner.
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>>256704394
Woah man cool it.

It's local asymmetric multiplayer, and it's still fun as fuck.

Now we just have to convince them to ditch the car bullshit in Mario Party.
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>>256703314
shit
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>>256703314
The Pee Poo because it reflects on what the console is
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>>256704685
nice meme
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>>256704668
>>256704685
shitpost mind
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>>256704654
>It's local asymmetric multiplayer

That's called a LAN you fucking idiot.
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>>256704340
I never got this joke
If you're standing directly in front of the Wii U and you make a U turn, wouldn't that leave you in almost the exact same spot you were before?
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>>256703314

Super Wii.
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>>256703314
Nintendo Entertainment Wii, aka the NEW
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>>256704845
Calm the fuck down.
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>>256703732
Having map screen/item access without pausing the game to get into a menu is nice. Local multiplayer that negates screenlooker faggots is a godsend.

And being able to play full console games while in my comfy bed or while taking a huge 2 hour shit is absolutely fucking amazing.
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>>256703419
>seventh gen console at the end of the seventh gen
Console gen is not defined by hardware power.
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>>256705002
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Its a bad name but its just an escape goat people are using for the real issues.

People that still think its an add-on probably aren't interested in buying it anyway.
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>>256705292
>escape goat
very nice
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>>256705179
like half of its early titles were 7th gen ports, it's a seventh gen console
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No one likes Gameslab? I still like Gameslab. Reminds me of steak.
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>>256705292
Pretty much this
They could've had a cool ad campaing like they did with the Wii, something like "Wii would like to play with U" because this was clearly a follow up of the Wii era so it'd fit
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>>256703185
Hes absolutely right

Parents have no fucking idea that the Wii U is a new Wii. They think its just the gamepad.

Retailers have no idea about what the difference between the Wii U and the Wii is, so they can barely provide any decent feedback.

Also its a name that is easy to make fun of (Pii U)
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>>256705454
I guess the PS4 and Xbone are 7th gen too because most of their games are crossgen multiplats as well.

Retard.
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>>256705524
The Game- line of Nintendo products ended when the Gamecube sold terribly.
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>>256703314
Wii 2, so as to clearly differentiate it from its predecessor.
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>>256705045
>not "Calm The Fuck Down"

You can't get anything right you fucking retard.
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>>256703314
UNES.

Ultimate Nintendo Entertainment System.
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>>256705454
So the PS4 and Xbone are 7th gen too because they have cross gen titles?
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>>256703314
The WLL (pronounced "Wooloolool")
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It doesn't have anything going for it. Sure it does have a game or two, but the large majority of non "gamers" that got swept into the Wii frenzy when it became big are not really interest or don't even understand what the Wii U is.
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>>256703314
Tablii
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>>256703314
Imperious Rex.
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>>256705690
Hopefully the terrible Wii name will die with the Wii U.
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>>256705882
>?????
>literally: "tion seser"
Christ, can bootleggers get anything right.
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>>256705690
22 million units wasn't selling terribly at the time, even though it did place last in its generation and performed worse than the N64. The console was still profitable, and Nintendo could've banked on the "late to the party" crowd who wish the Wii was more like the Gamecube.
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>>256705857
the xbone and ps actually have differences, the wii-u is usually on par or worse
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>>256703314
The WWWWWWWWWW
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>>256705987
Fuck off Namor, I thought you didn't even have Internet in the bottom of the ocean.
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>>256705651
Parents want the games that will make their children stop whining and childrens these days only want the mature and edgy games like GTA and CoD

If retailers have no idea of what they're trying to sell then they should infrom themselves or go bankrupt for being so retarded

>Also its a name that is easy to make fun of (Pii U)
Just like Xbone and nogamestation4
Creativity knows no boumds when it comes to shit on something
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>>256705892
>It doesn't have anything going for it.
It has plenty going for it. The concept is wonderful and the games it does have are top notch.

The issue is that Nintendo has no idea what they're doing anymore. They don't know shit about HD, they don't know shit about online and they completely forgot that marketing exists. They are completely out of touch which is a damn shame.
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>>256706201
Differences of what? Muh graphix?
>Sony literally got sued for lying about Killzone being 1080
Top fucking lel
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>>256703185

Remember to report sonygger threads.
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It didn't cut sales in half, the Wii U is not selling well because people don't want it. Nintendo's games aren't enough to sell a home console anymore. It's kind of a shame because quality wise the Wii U's library will likely be considerably better than the Wii's but it will sell a fraction of the amount of consoles.
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>>256704685
you must be 18 to post here.
You are clearly not 18
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They named it the Wii because it was meant for family and friends. Wii U is meant for family and friends, but now it was suppose to have games specifically for you.

I think the biggest goof Nintendo did was not clarify that it was a brand new console when they first unveiled it. All they did was show off the Gamepad and rarely showed off the actual console part of it until after the confusion
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It should have had its own name and aesthetic. Plain featureless white isn't cool anymore, Nintendo. Your UI on WiiU is boring as fuck. Someone MS and Sony decided to have even shittier UIs on their consoles though, so I guess the situation could be worse.
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Let's face the facts. The straight dope. The brutal truth.

No one wants a Wii U, not even Nintendo themselves. The way I see it, as an expert at this sort of thing, they only have a year left until they become completely broke because of their ever-mounting never-ending catalog of failures and blunders. It happened to Sega with the Dreamcast and it WILL happen to Nintendo too. It's unfortunate, really, seeing how a company that used to be unequivocally successful and remarkable among the game-o-sphere is now scraping at the bottom of the barrel like a gaggle of diseased hungry muskrats looking for that last morsel of nutrients before they collapse on the floor with foam bubbling in their mouths, dead.

And when the (statistically likely) scenario where they file for bankruptcy happens, they will only have a few slim options before that last needle-width thread of hope they're hanging onto snaps and sends them into the eternal abyss of obscurity and inferiority.

Option I: Sell themselves to Sony or Microsoft and become a lowly, but alive first-party developer.

Option II: Sell off their IPs and let the buyer do what's best for ol' Mario. I bet Sony can do wonders with him.

Option III: Become a third-party. Branch out! Make multiplat titles and port your games to smartphones. Make mega bucks while pleasing your fanbase by doing what they've always wanted you to do.

...The clock is ticking, Iwata. If I were you, I'd make my choice now before it's too late.
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>>256706938
>as an expert at this sort of thing
Okay.
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>>256706906
But they have the plain, featureless black model too, just like the other two consoles
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Parents didn't know the difference between the NES and SNES but the SNES still sold.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTzyz2TgGls

And this was before the internet, so the confusion was even bigger.

If you are suggesting there is an untapped audience of people who were Wii owners who would buy the Wii U if only they knew it was a new console, I think you are mistaken.
If they still gave a shit about their Wii, they would already know they couldn't play the latest Mario, Mario Kart, etc on it. when they actually tried to buy new games.

More than likely the Wii owners moved on to Apple and don't care about their Wii anymore.
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I wonder what the next nintendo console will be called?
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>>256706786
The confusion was entirely made-up. Everyone knew they'd be showing off a new console. Everyone knew that the tech demos they showed couldn't be done on the Wii (and the very fact that they showed tech demos at all implies new hardware). Only complete retards and journalists trying to spin some sort of story out of it didn't know it was a new console.
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>>256704586
this
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>>256703185
This fucking thread again and again and again.
I imagine a pasty blond white boy with long hair being a huge fucking fag is posting this.
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>>256706938
>. The way I see it, as an expert at this sort of thing, they only have a year left until they become completely broke because of their ever-mounting never-ending catalog of failures and blunders.
Top kek
Is this a new epic pasta?
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>>256707113
Do you know what UI means

The console itself could have physically differentiated itself more too, though. But I like how compact the Wii and WiiU are so, eh.
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>>256707184
>Nintendo has introduced some hot new toys.
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>>256706938
Hey fuck you, the Wii U is FINE. It has good games and it plays them well. The major failure surrounding it is marketing which I think everyone will agree Nintendo has never known how to do.
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>>256706938
I've seen this copypasta before.

I recall microsoft having attempted to buy out nintendo previously, and having left it an open option for nintendo.
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What does the wii u console even look like?
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>>256707310
>Don't post any negative articles about Nintendo
>This is NintendoGAF, you know.
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>>256707430
Nintendo used to have good commercials in like 6th gen
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>>256703314

The Nintendo
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>>256707310
>being this buttflustered over an arcticle.
You're the one being a huge fag here.
Too bad you're probably also black.
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>>256707441
Yes, they did
Didn't Gates admire Yamauchi or something like that?
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>>256707458
A Wii with rounded edges.
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>>256707184
>If you're a real good player
>meaning you've got the skill of a nine or ten year old
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>>256706938
>I bet sony can do wonders with him

Lel
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>>256706786
The biggest goof Nintendo did was not bundling the console with a party game anyone can enjoy. When you bought a Wii, you got Wii Sports for free - the game people who don't even like video games care about. Wii Sports U is the most pants-on-head retarded thing Nintendo could do - not only did they make it a paid game with all the sports from the original, they also sell all the sports separately.
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>>256706938
As an expert I think it'll do exactly like the GameCube: not very well, not very bad, and relying only on its core franchises.
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>>256707717
I want to make an edgy joke but I don't know how to go about it.
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>>256707430
Are you underage? The success of Wii was solely because of it's marketing campaign.
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>>256707746
F-ZERO confirmed for babbies.
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>>256707558
They were always adequate at best. Remember their 4th and 5th gen commercials? Remember how they marketed Earthbound? Every time Nintendo has a commercial failure, its because they fail to get their message across.
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>>256707823
the gamecube had third party multiplats of that gen
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>>256707816
Nintendo Land you idiot.
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>>256707486
I don't get this "Nintendogaf" shit
Is this was really a Nintendo version of Sonygaf, wouldn't this thread be kill by ow and OP permabanned?
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>>256703314
Nintendo U
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What the fuck is a Wii U?
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>>256707398
Well yeah, video game consoles were considered toys back then, and when you think about it, it made sense. Just something for kids to play with in their spare time.
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>>256707441
Microsoft cannot legally purchase Nintendo. Japanese companies can only be owned by the Japanese. Something the US could learn from.
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>>256707860
Even the discs have rounded edges
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>>256706938
>No one wants a Wii U
But I want a Wii U.
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>>256703185
>Dan Adelman
Who?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2014/08/04/nintendos-indie-lead-dan-adelman-leaves-the-company-returns-to-twitter/
> Adelman was the company’s lead on indie games, and had been with the company for the past nine years

So what the fuck did he actually do?
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>>256707968
But muh boogeyman
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Super Wii and shape it like a SNES just how the Wii was kinda shaped like a NES.
Cash in on the nostalgia of sad 30 something years old.
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>>256708053
People always say this and people always bring up that Microsoft has a Japanese division which CAN legally purchase them. Microsoft will never purchase Nintendo, but I don't know who to believe.
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>>256708053

http://www.iflr.com/Article/2026998/How-to-buy-a-Japanese-company.html
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>>256706526

>the games it does have are top notch.

If you really like Nintendo games, specific ones at that.
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>>256708084
i always thought that was fucking cool.
i love how games on dif systems in the olden days had looked different.

wii u discs having rounded edges is the coolest thing about the wii u
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I'm pretty sure that everyone here agrees that Wii U is a stupid name.

This isn't the same case as "Wii", where the name sounded silly. "Wii U" sounds like its a small upgrade from the regular Wii when it's actually a new console. And it really didn't help that a lot of emphasis went into showing off the controller instead of the console itself. Of course, people who play games will know the difference but your average 40 year old mom won't know shit.
It's just stupid marketing.
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>>256708124
Me too
>tfw extra, dirt poor
Life is suffering
I will have to leave /v/ when Hyrule Warriors comes out
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>>256707958
Too convoluted. Someone's aunt or grandma wouldn't bother playing this videogamey stuff - now a bowling game which makes you feel lke you're actually bowling? That's something they can enjoy.
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Should have named it Wii^2
Everyone would want people to come play with theirs.
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>>256708017
>look at me pretend to not know what a wii u is to prove that the systems unpopular

you are on a video game board bro
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They should hire TheDude to market their console.
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Everything about Nintendo is shit. Everything they do is confusing especially to plebs. Now I don't really follow Nintendo that much but when the Wii U was coming out I thought it was just a new controller for the Wii, now how many other people thought the same, that would have lost them sales.

Then there was the 3DS which I assumed could still play DS games which a friend of mine told me it couldn't. I thought it was just another DS that did all the same stuff just converted it to 3D.

TLDR: They need to put their point across better.
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Wii U sucks

That being said if Dragon Quest XI comes out exclusive for Wii U AND gets localized I will end up buying one.
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>>256707927
This
San Andreas on Gamecube was the shit. And MGS3 looked much better on GC than PS2.
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>>256708418
That just makes me think of WWII.
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>>256703314
Climax Bukkake
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>>256708475
No I'm not.
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>>256708545
Or maybe you're just a retard
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Nintendo Cafe
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>>256703314
Super Wii
Wii HD
Super Wii HD
Wii 2.0 (because .0 makes it sound cooler)

Just something that clearly states this is a newer Wii.
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>>256708545
>Then there was the 3DS which I assumed could still play DS games which a friend of mine told me it couldn't.
Isn't that thong backwards compatible, though?
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>>256708475
>All those systems and games sitting there being useless while some bored lonely kid could be playing them as we speak and getting some joy back into his life
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>>256708203
Nothing.
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>>256708537
>Has K-ON's advertise it while playing Vita's and the PS4 and changes the name to Pii U.
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>>256708545
the 3ds can play ds games moron
why are you so dumb
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>>256708684
please don't say "retard" anon, it's pretty rude. Thanks.
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>>256708331
You have:
>Nintendoland x2
>New Super Mario Bros U
>New Super Luigi U
>New Super Mario Bros U + New Super Luigi U

Why ?
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>>256708617
underrated post
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>>256704312
Isn't this an American thing though? Japan used to have pride in what they did and would take responsibility for their failures.
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>>256703314
Cafe
Nintendo U
Maxi-Pad
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>>256708684

If you need to clarify that its a brand new system then thats retarded.
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>>256704502
Why wasn't it a problem for the 3DS which looks literally the same as its predecessors?
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>>256703314
New Nintendo Entertainment System NNES.
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>>256708545
>Then there was the 3DS which I assumed could still play DS games which a friend of mine told me it couldn'

it can still play DS games.
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>>256708617
Look at the sales, no one bought third parties for the GameCube
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>>256708905
a friend gave me some of his games
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>>256708849
It is, that guy is a fucking idiot.
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>>256708203
Lose his twitter privilege when he was in
Bitch about Nintendo when he left
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>>256703314
>all these idiots saying wii 2

You faggots would have bitched about the lazy naming endlessly because yes that's even lazier an wii u.
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>>256708326
Blunderful 101 and Super Ultra Monster Hunter U Maximum 480 Nth Edition are pretty good though
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>>256705002
It's a play on the 360 joke, where you turn 360 and walk away. It's supposed to be wrong. THAT'S the joke.
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>>256708545
3DS can play DS games. But DS games look so shitty on the 3DS that there's no reason to play them on there if you didn't get rid of your DS, unless you like the circle pad.
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>>256703314
nintendo royale with cheese
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>>256708991
>looks literally the same
It doesn't.
The XL does look almost the same but the generic one that was announced was pretty different...and there is also the 2ds.
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>>256708920
You usually wait more than 2 minutes before posting this.
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>>256708871
>Implying most kids care about older games
>Implying they aren't too busy playing on their iPhones to care
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pCp8g-VjOs
We live in a crazy fucked up culture where shitty iOS gaming filled to the brim with clones of popular games and litered with microtransactions are the future of gaming apparently
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>>256705124
No, it's not nice. Having multiplayer forced into every game so that menus don't pause it is really annoying.
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>>256708361
It also can use the nunchucks and old wii games. the damn thing is marketed as if it's just an upgrade.
The biggest offender: vowel sound after vowel ended word
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>>256708203
Rape the indie support on Nintendo consoles for 8 years and come to terms with the fact that there is a market for indie developers one year ago, I think
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>>256709038
Why don't you sell the ones you already have?
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>>256708938
Except this dude has absolutely nothing to do with how the console was named, he just helped bring indie games to Nintendo platforms.
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>>256707979
>doing that to a DS lite
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>>256709038
Do you have Pocky and Rocky?
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>>256709167
Nobody bitched about the PS4 right after the PS3.
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>>256709231
I'm not very proud of getting the reference (not the Pulp Fiction one)
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>>256705757
Damn dude you're pretty butthurt.

It's ok you don't understand what local asymmetric multiplayer is.
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>>256709203
Oh, well that's that then
It's really stupid and not even funny, ironically or unironically but whatever
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>>256709289
That wasn't the main point. Why would HDS confused people when 3DS doesn't? The clamshell+dualscreen is just a bonus.
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>>256708871
>Kids
>liking older video game consoles.


Eww, the graphics are bad. Where's the touchscreen lol!?
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>>256703484

They should not have included Wii anywhere in there. The main problem with the Wii U branding is that people thought it was just a tablet for their Wii, and a majority of the Wii userbase was people that didn't really care for it, they had the Wii for all the sports games and shovelware.
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>>256708991
It was a problem, though.
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>>256709452
wait, what does a quarter punder have to do with this. pls explain
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Why do they call it the Xbox 360?
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Nah. It's pretty clever and some good jokes came out of it. It doesn't have any exclusives that can compete with Grand Theft Auto and it has the shittiest version other major multiplatforms that appeal to older gamers. It's not brain surgery.
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>>256709038
Is that the clear gamecube controller? How did you get that?
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>>256703185
It wasn't just the name

It was the bad launch line up.
The shitty ports
Third party titles
the Wii had the whole "We/Wii would like to play" thing. The Wii U doesn't have that.
They assumed that everyone that bought a Wii would go out and buy a Wii U
The best they can hope for is for the Wii U to end up like the Gamecube and try again
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>>256709452
are you kidding me? that video is hilarious. Last time someone posted it everyone had a few laughs

>>256709621
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8zOQq2N3xA
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>>256709038
Looks a little cramped in there.
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>>256703314
Wii Revolution
Wii Split
Wii Fusion
Adding Wii to the name helps the casuals understand it's related to the WIi. Naming it Fusion or Split implies it's not just a Wii accessory, which is what most people think when I tell them about it.

Or they could just call it the Nintendo U and be done with it.

I'd have called it the /vii/
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>>256709448
That's different. They established the lazy naming from the beginning and people are used to it and accepted it. Calling things GameCube 2 or n64 2 would have been stupid. It's lazy but it's also out of nowhere.
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>>256709038
Damn, I hope I can be that cool one day.
Too bad I'm broke as fuck. I need to get a new SNES though, I think mine got sold long ago
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>>256709038
>Virtual Boy in the back
Soon™
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>>256709668
because it's "revolutionary"
>pun spick.jpg
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It doesn't sell because it fucking sucks.
The PS4 doesn't suck so it sells.
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>>256709617
>It was a problem
>was a problem
So basically the Wii U is saved, right?
Heck, I'd buy one today if Persona 5 or any IP I actually wanted was announced for it.
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>>256709038
Jesus cockdongling christ, mate, what are you doing with all those wiimotes?
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>>256709668
Because when you see it you turn 360 radians and throw up
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>>256703185
>abysmal

more like autismal due to all the manbabbys that like wii u

LOL
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What if the Wii kept it's code name Revolution?
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>>256705292
This. Nintendo isn't bribing the devs enough or marketing the console as it should. Microsoft gets games because of infinite bribing and Sony sells consoles because of infinite marketing, there isn't a worthwhile exclusive game on the PS4 yet and it sells like hot cakes.
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>>256708871
>2014
>"Why can't I get Xerneas in this game?"
If you have nephews who play games, don't talk to them. They'll just piss you off.
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>>256703185
I agree. I also still think the name "Wii" is just as stupid.

Man I really miss those days back when it was known as the Revolution. What a stupid fucking name Wii is, and Wii U is just as bad.
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>>256709038
I wish mine was as big as yours.
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>>256709038
the nintendrone's final forme
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The U part was excellent

It's the 'Wii' part that is the most unpalatable.

And heck, the Wii sold the best of all the consoles.

I still think they should have went with 'Nintendo Revolution',
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>>256709715
They have Mario Kart for now and Smash for the end of the year, but they'll lose their spark after that. All they really have left is Zelda U.
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The name is terrible. But they've been doing that a lot lately.

You know when you have fucked up when stores need to put special signs up to let customers know that the 2DS plays 3DS games.

Mom's don't know if Wii U is just a Wii attachment, or if the 2DS is a whole new handheld.
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>>256709038
Where are your GameCube games?
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>>256703185
Everything about the Wii U is abysmal. When is Nintendo going to go out of business or sale themselves to Sony?
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>>256709494
Thank you for telling me what isn't funny.
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>>256707923
>Implying this game stinks was the reason for it failing
Um, plenty of games had "trash, fart jokes, whatever" for their ads and seemed to do fine. Really I think the main reason EB didn't sell was that people just weren't ready for an RPG
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>>256709892
whats your address

ill send you every video game i own, i dont want them anymore
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>>256709353
This is actually made me angry. They had such positive reactions to it and then they called it a piece of shit. Only the fucking Asian nerdy kid was worth a damn.
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>>256710526
In about six months time, friend.

Sonydomination awaits.
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>>256710220
Why not update your PS2 collection?

There's a ton of games you can buy for 1-5$ online.
Collecting for PS2 is cheap.
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>>256710159
Then the Wii U could be called Riivolution
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>>256710526
microsoft are far more likely to buy nintendo if there was ever the opportunity
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>>256710585
123 Fake St.
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>>256710707
>microsoft are
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Obviously they need a system-seller, and unfortunately MK8 wasn't enough of one. Smash will probably move a lot of product too, but what Nintendo needs is to dust off a few older franchises.

F-Zero UX
Excitebike U
Kirby Dreamland U
Metroid Other U
The World Ends With U

Also, mentioning ANYTHING about SMTxFE would stir some hype because of the FE newbies.
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>>256710526
In a couple of years, maybe.
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>>256710220
>diagnol playstation logo.
nice
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>>256710585
You own nothing of value.

Wouldn't want to get near your shit collection.
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>>256708905

Those aren't his games. He's autistic and saves other people's collections
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>>256710773
F-zero doesn't need an X.
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>>256703314
Wii Ultra
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>>256710470
on the floor
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>>256710585
pls no ruse
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>>256710773
That's a lot of games only Nintendo fans would care about. And most of those have a Wii U by now.
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>>256703185

He is right, everyone called on the bad naming. The Wii U deserves better, but some part of the market won't recognize it as "next gen" because of the name.

Remember not only dedicated people buy these.
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>>256703314

Nintendo Cafe.
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It was a perfect storm of issues, not just the name.

Nintendo sold out their core audience with the Wii, all for the sake of making a quick mountain of money with the casual audience. Emphasis on quick, because you can't keep those assholes attention for very long.

So the Wii U came out, coming back to the core audience like a husband that just banged like 50 chicks the month before, and is pretending like everything is fine, so the core is upset. The casuals don't even know what the fuck a Wii U is, which is where the name comes into play, so they're just blissfully ignorant, or they are bored of consoles, and are back to mobile apps for entertainment. Nintendo is left with its dick in its hand, because it didn't expect its core audience to nut up and tell them they haven't forgotten being shit on with the Wii.

However, I will probably end up getting a Wii U one day. Nintendo seems to be trying rather hard to make amends on abandoning us with the Wii, those fucking jew faggots, so I will enjoy watching them squirm a little while longer, and probably buy one by the end of the year. I assume there will be another Black Friday sale to be had.
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>>256710582
>people just weren't ready for an RPG
Earthbound came out the same year as Chrono Trigger and a year after Final Fantasy 6.
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>>256710582
And yet, Final Fantasy saw huge success during that era and there were tons of excellent SNES RPGs. It should've been marketed for what it was. Here, I'll ad lib a 90s caliber commercial that would've actually explained the product.

>generic team of fantasy heroes go into weapon shop
>keep getting offered frying pans and baseball bats
>threaten shopkeeper
>kid in striped shirt taps them on the shoulder
>bat to the face
>we see him walk out of the store to be confronted with shitty 90s animated versions of enemies from the game
>hoists bat over shoulder and camera cuts to game footage while announcer explains its not a traditional RPG by deliberately spoofing Final Fantasy.

Done, I just sold Earthbound better than Nintendo.
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>>256703314

How about something like the WiiDS or fuck, keep it simple like Wii 2.

Or drop the Wii title completely and simply call it the Tablet.

Wii U is a terrible name and it has cut the sales of the console. Most casuals, including some people selling the product, don't know the difference between the Wii and the Wii U. They really do think it's an expensive Wii tablet peripheral rather than an entirely different console.
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>>256710961
not rusing.

someday i plan on donating every single piece of vidya i own to some random faggot on /v/.

then i'm going to shoot myself
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>>256703314
A name as simple and unoriginal as Wii 2 would have significantly increased sales. People like when their is an entirely new and different product to "upgrade" to. Wii U gives off the implication that it's simply an add on and not an entirely different console.
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>>256710564
Wow bro, I just stated my opinion, no need to be offended or upset
Chill
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>>256710773
None of those you listed are system sellers.
Maybe to us here on /v/, but not everyone else.
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>>256710824
I didn't even notice that. No Glover?

>>256710639
I'm trying a little at a time. I actually had more games, like Abyss, Legendia, etc. but stupidly traded them in years ago. I still have the save data so I'll probably get them again.

I have SMT: Nocturne in my cart. I never played the series and it looks cool. There's a lot of games I never played, include SM Sunshine. I want that one too.
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>>256703185
fisher-price babies first tablet entertaiment system
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>>256703314
The Poo
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>>256711203
Why anon? You look like a wonderful person and I envy you, please don't kill yourself.
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>>256710901
F-Zero X
F-Zero G(amecube)X
F-Zero UX

>LELELELLE F-ZERO DOESN'T NEED AN X
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>>256703314

Wii Tu
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>>256710948
>Not owning any Resident Evil
Why no Resident Evil?
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>>256710901
F-Zero
F-Zero X
F-Zero GX (G for 'Gamecube')

F-Zero UX would fit the naming scheme thus far.

>>256710992
Nintendo fans and people who owned Nintendo consoles at all in the past decade; if they can't get third party in the door, then they need a large core fanbase on it or else it's bottoms up.

>>256711314
Most of those are just listing unused franchises, and I agree that most aren't system sellers. But do you know anybody over the age of 12 that has never HEARD of Metroid or Kirby? Wii U titles for them would at least get a good buzz going throughout the general public.
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>>256711350
Baby's first shitpost attempt
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>>256709353
>girls can play it too! why not call it the gameboy/girl
>you don't just turn it on and get the apps?
>I think the graphics is fine- Wait, what's a graphic?!
>I actually like it but kinda hate it.
>It can't even sense my skin.
This is the final kek.
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>>256709353
That asian kid restored some of my faith in humanity, Why cant more kids be as brilliant as him.
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>>256703314
mario happy fun bounce time v2
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>>256711203
Why anon?
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>>256711731
Have to have little shits to grow up into cheap labor
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>>256711203
D-Do you have steam? Email doesn't work for me
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>>256711023
pic related
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>>256703732
how does the DS's second screen benefit y our gaming session in any way
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>>256710773
How to make the Wii U sell:
Make First Person Shooters and Open World games with no "kiddy shit" on them.
Now market the shit out of it.
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>>256711023
To add to this, the first Wii predated the rise-of-the-casuals (who play doodle jump and candy crunch on their phones now) so it really was open season for a full blown casual box to dominate.
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>>256703314
Wii 2 could've been marketed with "We, too!" and highlighting the whole touchpad angle. Instead, they decided to stick a U at the end of everything. Pretty typical Nintendo.
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When I first heard the name Wii U, I thought it was was an upgraded Wii, not an new console.
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I mean obviously he's right. Only 1 letter different from the last console, uses the same controllers and plays the same games as the last console, and shit marketing. It's because of common sense stuff like this that I wouldn't really mind of Nintendo speed making hardware. Their games are certainly popular enough to support them on their own.
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>>256711109
The SNES has a lot of RPGs and a lot of them didn't sell just like EB.

RPGs became popular due to FF7 actually.

>>256711138
I kind of like that idea.
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>>256711813
>adding a picture explaining the joke at the end of the joke.
That's "demotivational that says what it says on the picture" levels of missing the goddamn point.
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>>256703314
Nintendo Entertainment System
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>>256711594
>But do you know anybody over the age of 12 that has never HEARD of Metroid or Kirby?
Yes, actually.
They only know them from Smash. If I talked to them about Metroid or F-Zero, they wouldn't know what I'm talking about, but if I said "The Samus game" or "The Captain Falcon" game, then they'd at least get an idea.

An idea for Metroid, at least. I once told someone that Captain Falcon was from a racing series and it apperantly blew their minds.
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>>256703185

Its that fallacy again

Where people assume the problem with the Wii U had anything to do with naming conventions, marketing or anything but the quality of the console.

The casuals are gone so Nintendo had to face the music. Their core fans werent pleased with casualization, franchise slaughter and nickel and dime control schemes.

This isnt even getting into the fact that Nintendo cheaped out on DVD playback because they didnt want to pay licensing.
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>>256712072
But it is, just like the Wii was an upgraded GameCube with a different controller.
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>>256711813
That fucking pic
there is people who think like this, seriously?
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>>256703314


Nintendo U

Super Wii

UNES (Ultimate Nintendo Entertainment System)

Wii U is a horrible name by all fronts.
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the name isn't the only problem the Wii U has
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>>256704075
They should have known there isn't much you can do with it because if there was it would have been done on the 3ds or ds
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>>256711203
pls giv
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>>256703314
Pii 4U
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>>256709353
Fuck, why did I sit through that shit. Kids are so fucking stupid. That green shirted asian kid was actually a decent person though, so there's some hope left, but goddamn
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>>256703185
Why didn't they just call it the Super Wii?
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>>256703314
why, my peanus weenus of course :)

hahah!

it's my weeeeeenus peanus! hahah :)

ITT: new Wii U name - my answer, of course, my peanus weenus :D

hahaha!
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>>256709494
Hello newfriend!~

world of advice...

LURK MOAR
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>tfw my dad saw the Wii U controller and thought it was a portable Wii
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>>256712109
To be honest, I tough it was talking about valve until the end.
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>>256703185
Been saying that the whole time
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>>256703314
Nintendo Console That Is Better Than Microsoft's and Sony's Consoles
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>>256712576
Eh, that joke is far too late. Valve barely does anything aside from Steam anymore. Half Life 3 is the vaporest of vaporware, even The Last Guardian is laughing at it, and Steam is kind of the casual money thing, which has been prevalent for many years.
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>>256711926
They've got some "mature" games coming up on it, such as Bayo 2 and Devil's Third, then it looks like they're talking "open world" with Zelda U.

Nintendo's biggest sin on the Wii U is the lack of diversity. All it has are platformers, platformers, platformers, and MH3U. They could do an F-Zero game for racing, Metroid Prime game for FPS, and so on and so forth. They need something else; you can only play one game for so long.

>>256712147
I'm sorry you live in a shitty anon. Falcon is understandable since it was never a flagship franchise, but not knowing about Metroid is heartbreaking.

So it seems everybody is saying better third party, more variety, and better marketing. They seem pretty obvious, but Nintendo seems to be gunning for GameCube 2.0.
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>>256711023
How autistic do you need to be to think this?
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>>256709604
my nephew plays the SNES, the PS1 and and the GameCube.

He says they're fun. And that the games look "pretty"

He's 7
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>>256712576
>Mr. Potatamoto
Alrightyyy then.
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>>256711926
So make it exactly like the other turds? My low opinions of them aside, even if they wanted to, part of the reason Nintendo doesn't do that shit is because they would have no idea how. Like, how would they pull off a AAA fps? Name 1 Nintendo game that has had online multilpayer with features on par with Halo 2, a game from the generation before last. Splatoon and Smash should have that, but they won't, because for all their talk about bringing people together, they're stuck in 2000 in this regard.
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Meanwhile, the Xbone is the worst selling console this gen and does almost nothing better than the PS4, and there are no threads about this.
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>>256711023
>sold out their core audience

that never happened.

just dumbasses who were crying abuot "we're muh Punch-Out!! and Muh Sin&Punishment sequel!" and they ended up getting them anyway.
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>>256712904
>tfw my 13 year old brother likes playing Double Dash and Shadow Tower

I'm doing a good job of modeling him into a respectable enthusiast.
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>>256712963
the wii-u has had 2 years and a lot of games to prove itself

the ps4 and xbox are only just starting
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A lot of the game pad's problem is that it looks stupid until you actually use it. I was skeptical at first but I really wanted to play some Nintendo games and I figured it wasn't that big of a deal.

After a while I realized it's bad ass. Kiss anime html5 video player, it plays mp4 videos, navigating web pages is easy, typing in letters is easy, etc.

The whole idea of a second screen will show up on xbox and playstation eventually. The same shit happened with motion controls. When Wii came out, everyone groaned over waggle gimmicks. And then Microsoft came out with Kinnect and Sony had SixAxis.

There are just way too many little things that make the game pad nice as fuck to have.
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>>256712358
>decent person
>didn't know how to Tetris
Not in my books he isnt
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>>256707184
as somebody who has had to explain this to people, there are still lots of people who have no idea the 3ds is even a new generation of ds, as well as people thinking the wiiu is just like the dsi, some slight physical casing upgrade with no difference in software
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Agreed, when I worked in gamestop I had to ask people if they were intrested in pre ordering one and they were all shocked to find out it was an actual sequel to the original Wii, they all thought it was some kind of expansion/peripheral (Just the gamepad) because a new console wasn't actually shown at the E3 reveal. Asked a few of my buds in different citys who work in gamestop and they all had the same problem, everyone originally thought it was just some new gimmick, not a full blown console.
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>>256712963
Be fair now, the Wii U has been out much longer. The Xbone is selling better than the Wii U did at this point in its lifespan.

Also nobody talks about it because all the xbots moved to the PS4. Xbone owners aren't that conceited, its just that they're so rare that the shitposters outnumber them a thousand to one.
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>>256713063
>ended up getting them
After people complained.
At the end of the day, Punch Out was just for the controller gimmick.
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>>256705124
>multiplayer

mario kart 8 local

absolute

fucking

BOLLOCKS
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>>256712963
Are you going to make fun of a retarded kid for not understanding things? Of course not, it is expected they won't understand.

That is the Bone. No one expects it to succeed, so when it doesn't, it's hard to feel anything about it.

Hell, since the Xbone has such low expectations, they get the positive twist of getting massive praise for doing something right.
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>>256703185

Even some of my friends who I wouldn't call casual but also wouldn't call super game savvy thought it was a tablet, he told me the other day he was thinking about getting it and he tried mine and he was asking "it's just a tablet right?"

horrible name and horrible marketing, I don't care though because now that the casuals don't have it they'd better start making GOOD games instead of shovelware
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>>256708475
I'm 33 and always had Nintendo systems up to the Gamecube. I love Nintendo because unlike Sony and Microsoft they actually make games themselves.

They lost their audience on the Gamecube with terrible versions of Mario and Zelda; and with Metroid being a completely different type of game. They had already driven away a lot of the SNES audience with the N64 by being completely worthless for RPGs.

So the Wii has a gimick motion control that gets attention of completely different people that wouldn't care about games to begin with. I love the bowling but after 2 hours I could notice the limitations of the controllers accuracy such that I could throw the exact same ball repeatedly. The more action oriented things the controller was too lagged for. Both of these things might not be apparent to people, I don't know.

Now what I'm getting at is; I know Wii U is a different console but I have no clue about it other than it having yet another fucked up controller. Nintendo is perfectly set up to be cashing in on all of the kids who grew up with them getting to middle age and having nostalgia and huge amounts of cash; but they are still fucking it up.
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It is abysmal

People think WiiU is like an extra attachment for the Wii or some other shit they dont need. Trying to ride on the Wii gravy train backfired badly.
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The fault lies on Nintendo really. When they showed the Wii U on E3, everyone, including people here on /v/, thought it was a peripheral for the Wii and not a new console. The Wii U was a mess on day 1.
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>>256712445
>newfriend
So anyone who doesn't find a retarded joke funny is a newfag?
Oh, ler me clear that up, retarded joke IMO, before you get all butthurt like that other guy
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>>256703185

I agree on all counts here. The Wii U -should- be selling better and the name -is- awful.

Honestly at this point the Wii U is the only console I'm even looking at. I already have a PC so 90% of the games coming out on the other consoles I can get already. I'll wait a few years and get a PS4 used just for Bloodborne unless some other stellar exclusives come out for it but until then, the Wii U is the only console worth getting if you already have a gaming PC.
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>>256703185
>DSi
Just a ds with a matte finish
>Wii U
Entirely new console meant to be the successor to the wii

Nintendo's naming scheme makes no fucking sense
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Super Super Nintendo
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>>256703185
Not as bad of a name as Xbox One, no wonder why Sony is selling more consoles, at least the name "Playstation 4" makes fucking sense.
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>>256711438
It doesn't, faggot. The first game was F-Zero. Just F-Zero, on the SNES. Faggot.
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>>256714319
DSi had DSiWare, built in cameras and an Internet browser
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>>256703314
Super Nintendo Wii.
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>>256713757

God I'm itching for a good turn based RPG like the old SNES days.
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>>256703314
Nintendo U
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>>256714659
People are just gonna refer to the Xbone as "Xbox" anyway, since MS is about to drop the 360.
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>>256712949
>>256712109
>That's "demotivational that says what it says on the picture" levels of missing the goddamn point.
Additionally,
>Mr. Potatamoto
>Picture of Iwata used at the end.
Granted, when talking about Nintendo's business directions, Iwata makes more sense, but goddamn.
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>>256713226
Except it kinda has happened. Some next gen games are using tablets as a second screen.
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>>256708816
I like all of these. But Wii HD is the best IMO.
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Hey how about not calling it Wii anything?

Wii is a stupid fucking name to begin with, then Wii U somehow made that even more stupid.

No matter what, no one can defend the name of this system, no matter who you fanboy over and no matter who you defend endlessly, this name is godawful.
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>>256707958
Wasn't that not a pack-in initially?
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>fatal frame u never released in the eu or us
>new starfox game is axed or delayed until winter of 2015
Nintendo's biggest enemy is itself
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>>256715176
Didn't some PS3 car game use the PSP as a rear view mirror?
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>>256715559

Fatal Frame U is out in Japan right now?
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>>256712863
>So it seems everybody is saying better third party, more variety, and better marketing.

Uh, no. Nintendos been well off without third parties. Third parties and new IPs are just Boogeymen.

Variety? Yes but the fans want a particular set of classics.

Marketing wasnt really a flaw. It was just a way for Nintenfans to admit their console was bombing without saying it was Nintendos fault.

Nintendo has to be more invested in their community and prove they give a damn. The people who built Nintendos empire are looked down with contempt. Thats unfair.
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>>256704845
Oh really?

There are games like nintendo land if you play on Lan?
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>>256715559
>Fatal Frame U released
>No Fatal Frame collection which uses the Gamepad controller.
Why?
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>>256703535
>People are still not aware the Wii U is a new console and is not just a tablet controller for the Wii.
Those same people probably don't know the difference between an Xbone and a 360 or a PS3 and PS4 either, so that's kind of moot.

It's been almost two years. Anyone who is even remotely interested in video games knows the difference between a Wii and a Wii U at this point, we can drop that tired excuse now. Again, the only folks who don't are people who probably know little/nothing about video games in general.
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>>256713063

And nobody asked for those.
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>>256715176

Yeah, PC has Nvidia shield that does a lot of what Wii U Gamepad does and now PS4 is getting Vita to function the same.

Nintendo was first with the whole idea but everyone keeps riding Nintendo's nuts about how it's a stupid gimmick.

In 3 years when buying a home console means you also get a portable you can use around the house, everyone is going to forget about how stupid they sounded talking about how they thought a remote screen for a console or gaming device was a stupid idea.

The whole gamepad thing is a moot point. As soon as a game company comes along that is willing to pay off tech and gaming tabloid websites, gaming tablets like gamepad will become something the tabloid tech media fawns over.
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>>256703314
Nintendo game slab
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>>256713757

>They lost their audience on the Gamecube with terrible versions of Mario and Zelda; and with Metroid being a completely different type of game. They had already driven away a lot of the SNES audience with the N64 by being completely worthless for RPGs.

Looking a little clueless there.
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>>256715873
How is bad marketing NOT Nintendo's fault? Marketing is the make or break in this industry. Apple wouldn't exist in its current state if it weren't for extremely savvy marketing selling overpriced garbage to idiots. If Nintendo had only 10% of that marketing ability, their business would never be threatened.
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>>256715801
It will be out goreious nippon in september
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>>256715995
>dont know the difference between a PS3 and PS4
They have to literally not be able to count.
4 is after 3. It's obviously something new.
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>>256716238
Haha, that's two for the Gameslab, you faggots.
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>>256703314
Woo.
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>>256716341

Because people knew what it was and didnt want it. The whole tablet misunderstanding was just propoganda ran by Nintendo because the Wii U didnt sell gangbusters.
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GameTab?
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>>256716710

No, independent polling shows that many consumers thing the Wii U is just an attachment for the Wii. The marketing is garbage.
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>>256716305
The N64 had RPGs?
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>>256716993
Quest64 is all that comes to mind.
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>>256716384
Well, an add-on for the Wii is still something new as well. I really, really fail to see how the name is any more stupid or off-base than 'Super Nintendo' and no one had any trouble being able to tell that it was a new console instead of some add-on for the NES.

Again, the whole 'no one knows its a new console!' thing stopped being relevant and accurate a year ago. Nintendo isn't making new Wii games and isn't supporting it anymore, stores have 'Wii U' plastered all over their Nintendo displays. It's plainly obvious to anyone who is even remotely familiar with current video games that the Wii U isn't an add-on for the Wii. The only people who might still make that mistake are people who don't know much about games at all and would likely mix up the PS and XB brand consoles and games as well. So it's a moot point.
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>>256716710
>Because people knew what it was
>there are people who actually deny that your average consumer was confused by the Wii U
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>>256716710
This is not true at all. When the Wii U launched, I was working at a Best Buy. I didn't even know it was out until I saw it on the sales floor. People regularly had to be told it was a new system and not an upgrade and it was extremely common for them to walk up to the register with a Wii and some Wii U games because it was not at all obvious that they would not be compatible. By the way, the usual response when we explained the issue was that they just assumed it was a premium version and picked the cheaper one.
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>>256717076
Must've been a hell of a game because that other guy was apparently "clueless"
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>>256710526
>totally gonna happen
>because sony isn't bleeding profusely from its games division
>because tv and blu-ray sales are barely keeping sony afloat
>and nintendo doesn't have BILLIONS of yen in the bank

>that bait was tasty yum

in all seriousness, sony is closer to being the new sega than nintendo is
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>>256715873
GameCube was the last Nintendo system with a small Third Party, and it had the lowest sales of the generation by a pitfall.

Nothing wrong with classics, but there are now five Mario titles if you count sports games, two upcoming Zelda games, and MAYBE a StarFox game. Classics are good, we just need a variety of classics in addition to a third party presence. It doesn't have to be xbox hueg, just enough to have more than three non-Nintendo games in your library.

No, I don't care how much you say otherwise, the Wii U's advertising was abysmal. The closest to "good" we got was MK8 and Holiday 2013, and neither of those stressed that it was a new console. I've had to inform people, people that I know have more than two brain cells, that it isn't a Wii Slim with a different controller. Everyone out of the lopp thinks that the GAMEPAD is the Wii U. They think "Only on Wii U" is like "better with Kinect" in that it's a recommendation, not a necessity. They need to seriously buckle down on the advertising.

Super Wii would have at least drawn a comparison to the NES/SNES succession and made sense. Outside of the "Play with us, play with U" thing, the name makes no sense.
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>>256717463

How is this even possible? Does Nintendo not do any market research?
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>>256718057
You're an hour l8 to the b8, m8.
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>>256717261
You underestimate how important making a big splash is AND once again, the importance of marketing.

Even if Wii is no longer an option, Nintendo still fails to advertise to their product effectively. It changes nothing. Early confusion as a result of poor marketing ruined the launch and the marketing is STILL bad. Compare it to the non-stop noise you get from Sony and Microsoft about their consoles; Nintendo either doesn't know what to say or doesn't say anything at all.
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>>256711138
>Done, I assume just sold Earthbound better than Nintendo.
ftfy

hindsight is 20/20
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>>256703314

I would have just called it the Nintendo U. Would have been a fine name, and when reggie first announced it and said "The new console is focusing on YOU!"

I immediately thought, "Oh, they had the Wii and now they'll have the U. That's clever enough."

"We're proud to present the WII u!"

I immediately cringed.
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>>256703314
Any name without Wii in it.
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>>256718210
That's EXACTLY what I said back then. I think they're so used to coasting on brand recognition that they have no idea how to adapt their marketing.
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>>256718057
What planet do you live on? Here on Earth, PlayStation is one of Sony's most profitable businesses.
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>>256718210
Nintendo can't even into internet, and it's 2014.
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>>256718057
>BILLIONS of yen
>implying that's a lot
yen aint worth shit m8
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>>256718210
Part of me is afraid that the poor results of the Wii U are due to the massive success of the Wii. They probably thought that since it was such an established console, a Wii successor would sell on name alone, marketing being only a superfluous cost.
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>>256716993

Not the point. RPGs are a niche genre. Saying that it makes or breaks a console looks really dumb. The world doesnt revolve around your basement dwelling opinions.

And Sunshine was functionally the same as 64 with a water addition. Prime had the same style of exploration and backtracking in 3D. And Zelda had a bunch of water to make it dirrerent from the 3D Zeldas? Bullshit.

Gamecube did bad because the PS2 was the go to console of its gen. If anything, its bad sales echoed from the 64s poor performance. The same is happening with the Wii U. Most core Nintenfans think the Wii sucked.
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>>256718278
I said the hole people don't know it's a new console' thing isn't relevant or very accurate now, but it certainly was at launch.

Nintendo did a piss-poor job of making sure people knew their new console was coming, or even that it was new in the first place. Think the Saturn launch but not as bad. But at this point I think people know what it is, given that the other two new platforms are out, Nintendo is actually advertising their console and the Wii has been dead for a few years.
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>>256718340
Even though "U" is pretty dumb it does separate it from the Wii, which was the fucking problem in the first place.

They should've just done it. Hell, the "DS" worked.
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I hope if nothing else the floundering of the Wii U will force Nintendo to allow younger devs to take the reigns. They seem to be moving that way somewhat.
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>>256718331
Granted, hindsight is 20/20. But its an objective truth that people were confused and repulsed by that marketing campaign. All I did was brainstorm something that was like a gaming ad in the mid-90s. Comparing my hypothetical with what Nintendo released, which do you prefer?
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>>256718409
They think they're Apple.

Seriously. There's 3 types of 3DS's.
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What's your excuse for not owning two Wii U consoles?

I thought you supported Nintendo
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>>256718447
Planet /v/
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>>256718340

"Revolution" probably would have got the point across better.
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>>256718447
>>256718531
nintendo is currently worth about $700M more than sony
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>>256703185

I'm pretty sure that literally everyone agrees that Wii U is the shittiest name possible, including fans of Wii U. A large chunk of its failure is easily explained by people not even knowing it's a console, instead of what it sounds like, some kind of an add-on to the Wii.
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>>256719091

They should have called it Super Wii.
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>>256718776
I understand where you're coming from, and I still think Nintendo's current marketing is inadequate.

There were other mistakes too, undoubtedly. We all hate EA, but really, Nintendo cannot into online and they had chance to partner with a company who understands the market enough to gouge us at every turn. If they used EAs understanding with Nintendo's respect for the consumer, I imagine we would be having a different discussion right now. The fact the Xbone is selling proves that the market doesn't give a shit what things look like, so the graphical capability of the console is largely meaningless.
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>>256712950
Make it similar to the other turds in terms of hardware at least and entice developers to make games for your platform without having to go through huge expense and effort to conform specially to their outdated tech.

It would not hurt Nintendo in the slightest to have a system perceived as a true multiplat competitor. People would be way more willing to purchase a non-supplemental console and the Nintendo exclusives would give it a real edge in the competition.
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>>256719091

Fuck man I remember reading Nintendo Power and seeing "Project Revolution" and it sounded so fucking cool

and then we got

>DA WII

Surely SOMEONE at Nintendo realized how fucking retarded that sounds to an English speaker.
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>>256718812
Miyamoto is an old dog that needs to be put down
Or lost in a park somewhere

I'm still mad about Sticker Star
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>>256719181

I think the best way to describe Wii U's problems are

1. horrible name
2. gamepad doesn't get point across that it has nice features beyond gameplay
3. not different enough from predecessor to establish itself as a new product

I think >>256718596 is very right. Nintendo thought they could coast off of Wii's product recognition so they made Wii U similar and tried to market it similarly. And it ended up only confusing people as they couldn't tell it was a new product.
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>>256710585
>>256711203
I'll post my address right here if you do send em
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>>256718531
They have billions of dollars in cash and assets.

Go read up on how much money they made between 2006 and 2011. They posted losses for the first time ever in 2012, and even then it was only a few hundred million. They made many times more than that every year for almost a decade prior. Nintendo is not going out of business any time soon.

>>256718942
>Seriously. There's 3 types of 3DS's.
It's funny you mention that, Sony had as many iterations of the PSP as Nintendo did the DS, and the PS3 has had at least three SKUs as well. Everyone redesigns their machines, this is not something just Nintendo does.

>>256719145
Which is sad given that Sony is such a huge corporation with multiple branches all probably larger than Nintendo as a whole and all Nintendo makes are video games.
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>>256718812
They definitely need more young blood, but it'd be a good idea to keep the ancients on as supervisors. It needs to retain the Nintendo "feeling", but for a younger audience.

Only after typing that out do I understand how cliché that sounds, but whatever.
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>Miyamoto is an old dog that needs to be put down

I was about to jump down your throat
but then I realized how right you were
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>>256711264
Literally retarded. It must be tough on you, being so stupid.
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>>256719601
I know that, I was just saying billions of yen is a massive understatement.
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>>256719601
Why are you talking about Sony in a Wii U thread?
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>>256703696
I kind of like this
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too many stories about people not knowing wiiu was a new system.
of course it was a bad name.
also, I'm not reading this thread
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>>256703185
The name is bad, but the system is not failing because of it. NoA didnt market it properly.
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>>256703314
"The Nintendo"!
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>>256703185
The name is bad but the library is bad too.

People won't buy a new console just to play Mario Kart and Donkey Kong.

The console released in 2012 and we still don't have the real games, like Zelda and Metroid. It's Nintendo fault that the Wii U is not selling well.

The name is just a lame excuse.
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>>256719781

Miyamoto still oversees the great games that show up on Wii U like froze dong. He shouldn't be going anywhere. He guides second party studios in the right direction.

If you don't believe me on what happens when second parties lose Nintendo and Miyamoto, look at what happened to Rare.
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>>256719942
There's the initial problem of people thinking it's a new DS, but once it's visible it'd be much different.

Then again, if they had shown the CONSOLE instead of just the gamepad, the predicament wouldn't be quite as bad as it is now.
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The Wii had fucking Zelda as a launch title
What the hell did Wii U have? NSMB4?
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>>256719926
He's just saying that launching redesigns isn't uncommon. And he's right, its become a staple in consumer electronics for each device to go through several iterations in its lifetime. What I was saying earlier about brand recognition though, was Nintendo (like another poster said too about Apple) is in the mindset that everyone will "buy the new Nintendo" because its the new Nintendo. Remember, back in the 90s, Nintendo was synonymous with game console. They had Kleenex level brand recognition, where the brand name replaces the generic term. That's absolute victory in marketing. And somewhere along the line the consumer became more educated about the products and Nintendo never noticed.

>>256703696
This guy should work for Nintendo.
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>>256720278
Anon, I think we both know Miyamoto isn't the reason Rare happened.
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>>256719926
>Why are you talking about Apple in a Wii U thread?

Nintendo making three 3DS SKUs is not something to be bewildered by, everyone does it, that's all. Microsoft does it too, we've had countless 360's and we'll likely see at least one or two revised Xbones down the line. So everyone is Apple.
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>>256713757
I sold my Gamecube the second it became clear GTA3 wouldn't come out on it. It was just a massive, genre defining game and I didn't want to miss out on another one like I had to all the fucking time through the N64 era.
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So since my thread got deleted, can I get a list of Wii U games that don't force the gamepad anywhere in the game, and let you beat it all with the pro controller?

I don't want argue about the pad itself anymore, apparently that is flaming and baiting. I just want the games that let you beat them 100% with the pro controller.

So far I have Pikmin 3, MH3U, NSMBU, probably Bayonetta 2, DKCTF. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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I thought the name was genius because Americans will associate its name with their favorite movie: Kung Pow.

>CHOSEN ONE!!! WII U WII U WII U WII!
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>>256720510
Every VC game, pretty sure Shovel Knight if you don't have it on PC.
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>>256720284

DS -> DSi -> 3DS

It's not that confusing really. It's a good play on being the third DS as well as the 3d function.

Wii U was just Nintendo trying to ride on Wii's success blatantly.
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>>256720660
Yeah yeah yeah, get to streaming it already.
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>>256720278
Rare went straight to the shitter before microsoft bought them. If I remember right, they promised a certain lineup of release gamecube games, and all of them got aborted during development except dinosaur planet/star fox adventures.
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>>256719783

I converted just now. nintendo is actually, as of January, worth apprx

>¥1.9T or $18.4T

to say billions is still sort of accurate. I mean.. it's THOUSANDS of billions, after all.
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>>256720238
>>256720278
I want Donkey Kong to fuck off.
I don't give a shit about the arcade original or "the Rare days". DK is boring.
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>>256720834
The 3DS was also a horrible name but considering Nintendo's handheld names have always been horrible, people got used to it
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>>256720834
Nah, son
>DS
>DS Lite
>DSi
>DSi XL
>3DS
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>>256720886
oops.. that's $18.4 billion , not trillion
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Sega had the best names. Master System, Genesis, Saturn and Dreamcast especially were all good names
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>>256720834
And the PS3 rides on the success of the PS2.
Yeah the name was a poor choice, but it's no different from what Sony or Microsoft does.

They've done it with the NES and SNES.
They also attempt to avoid tragedies like calling the NDS the NDS because they don't want another Visual Boy fiasco and ruining the "Game Boy" name.

Names can be better though.
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>>256720834
...That's what I'm saying. HDS is a great name, but the problem is the average consumer thinking it's a new handheld. With small amount of explanation it's obvious that it's a new console, but you have to same problem with the Wii U.
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>>256720834
3DS suffered the same way the Wii U did at launch. I worked at Best Buy then too, although it was a different one near a college I attended. The difference is that it got its system seller titles and people caught on. And it still took a hit in sales thanks to the expanding mobile market.
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>>256709231
WELL IT'S FUCKING TRUE, GARFIELD JESUS CHRIST.
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>>256703617
>>256703535
>Wii Nii

No, they thought it through
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The name is the least of the system's problems. I hate this trend of blaming everything but the actual product for why it's failing.
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>>256721023

Yeah it was, but DS series got the point across about what the product does and what it is. You see the dual screens, see DS, and go "OHHHHH". You see the 3d screen, you see the dual screens and go "OOHHHH"

You hear Wii U and go what the fuck? You all are going to what us?

>>256721223
Yeah, but increasing a number is a normal convention for naming when you're talking about an upgraded anything. It's existed for Nintendo as long as I can remember, and super mario bros 1, 2 and 3 on NES are prime examples. You see it everywhere else too.

It's like Nintendo saw xbox 360 and went "I bet we can come up with something ever more retarded to put at the end of our console name"
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>>256703314

Umii

>Incorporates the message of togetherness(me & you)
>create animu waifu Umii-tan to promote the console in Japan

it could have sold like hotcakes.
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>>256703696
Same problem it has now, just worse. Is it a new DS? Is it a home console? At least with Wii U you know its derivative of the Wii brand, which you know is a home console. DS is their portable, I think that name would have been just as, if not more, confusing for most consumers.
>>256708991
It was a problem, and it's got that all-important number in the name. But Nintendo pushed the glasses-free 3D thing really, really hard, and everyone knew the first DS couldn't do that given everyone and their mother had one. It also had a larger top screen, which was one of the most immediately noticeable things about it when comparing it to the DS.
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>>256703696
One one hand, it sounds cooler than "Wii U". On the other hand, remember what happened to the 3DS? HDS would only cause more confusion
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>>256703314
UToo
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Nintendo NEXT

"Join the revolution with your next gaming system! Welcome to the Nintendo NEXT system"

Nintendo Entertainment Xternal Tablet system
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>>256721481
I blame Nintendo
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>>256721529
No I completely agree. The Wii U is a fucking stupid name choice.
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>>256704572
>A new name could have REALLY helped differentiate the system from it's predecessor.

They didn't want to differentiate it from the Wii. They wanted to trick consumers into thinking it was the successor to the Wii so it would sell well, and it backfired on them.
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>>256721661
Actually, I disagree with this. Its adds cohesion to the Nintendo brand, something lacking between the handheld and console markets. Its actually the same mistake Sony made with the Vita. A trick you use in this kind of marketing is to make the peripheral device sound like a missing part of the main device. Or in this case, take the wildly successful DS brand and expand IT to the home market. You would be amazed how large a part perception plays.
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>>256721726
Holy shit
That would've been kinda cool
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>>256706526
>The concept is wonderful

The concept is crap. The gamepad is the antithesis of the Wii remote, and it's no surprise the mass market is rejecting it.
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>>256722067
Nintendo Entertainment Xternal Touch system is also an acceptable answer also.
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anyone else just really bored with platformers? ive been since around the release of kirby wii. they have too many platformers
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>>256722070
I wouldn't go that far. The concept is PASSABLE. You're right about it being the antithesis of the Wii. No fucking way to get up and move with that behemoth. But, it still could've been sold if they had made the tablet a higher quality. Maybe include a processor in the tablet as well so you could use it without the console even on. And it was probably a mistake to totally bank on the gimmick again. The most popular Wii games, Wii Sports aside, weren't even reliant on motion controls.
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>>256707209
It's not entirely made up. I've spoken to countless people who have no idea what it is, and when shown it, go "oh is that a tablet for the wii?"

some of them are even casual gamers.
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>>256721534
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>>256703314
>all these responses
>not a single one suggesting Perfect Nintendo Entertainment System

For shame, /v/
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>>256721726

OH MY GOD
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>>256703185

Yeah, because the Wii had a brilliant name. I doubt the 100 million consoles sold would have been much fewer had it been called "WiiU" or something
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>>256707209
This. Consumers know it's a new console, they are just disinterested. It's being rejected by the market. Since so many refuse to admit this, they instead blame everything but the product itself.

-It's the marketing!
-Consumers are just too stupid to understand it!
-My anecdotal evidence of someone being confused means everyone else is!

The excuses can't last forever, soon people will have to accept Nintendo put out a console consumers didn't want.
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>>256722647
>>not a single one suggesting Perfect Nintendo Entertainment System

You know, despite hating feminists and loving 2D girls and some of us loving traps; most of us aren't actually faggots who crave dick man.
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>>256722420
They need to change up their shit. Splatoon is a step in the right direction I guess but they need more.

And no, don't just come up with something new and slap Mario on it for "sales".
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>>256703598

>We Won
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>>256722520
I never saw that, but I did see casuals saying "oh wow, they are copying tablets, there is no way I will buy this".
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>>256722734
How can you not accept that marketing is playing a huge role here? We agree that the console has fundamental flaws, but the Wii had fundamental flaws just as egregious and it found an audience. Wii U is lost on the market because it was not sold to them, among other things.
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>>256722910
True

>but I already have an iPad
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Why do I want a really big game boy?
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>>256722520
Here's a funny story a friend who works at retail told me the other day

>Guy comes in looking at games
>Friend tries to sell him a Wii U
>Guy think it's an accessory to the Wii
>Friend tells him it's a new console
>Guy still isn't interested and asks when they are getting new shipments of PS4 in

Even when consumers didn't know what it is, when told they still don't care. Nintendo needs to do more than work on marketing to sell the damn thing.
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>>256709432

DS lites were garbage anyways
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>>256718774
RPGs were the #1 genre at the time. Nintendo pissed of Square by charging them $30 a cart. This is what made Playstation a success and which in turn made Playstation 2 so successful.

Sunshine was a lot more open and lost the fun of climbing up different paths around the levels. The water thing was annoying and got in the way.

Prime was a great game. It was so far removed from Super Metroid though that it didn't automatically appeal to fans. If the second one came out by itself, nobody would have even thought it had anything to do with Metroid.

Wind Waker was awful because it had about 4 dungeons, one of which forced you to use stealth. If you went from Zelda to LttP to Ocarina to Wind Waker, the action becomes more and more sparse.
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Most of us here on /v/ already knew that the Wii U's main problem was the naming and marketing of the console.
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>>256723203
Maybe if they marketed it correctly in the first place, we wouldn't be having this argument right now and we would have a concrete reason why the Wii U is a flop,
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>>256708991
apparently there were idiots that thought 3ds games would work on ds.
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>>256722997
>How can you not accept that marketing is playing a huge role here?

Because the core reason why it's failing is not because people don't know it exists but because it's a product they don't want. Changing its name will not suddenly make disinterested consumers interested in it, like you and others want to believe.
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Once you own the system you realize Wii U is at least an honest name since you need Wii accessories to play the damn thing.
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>>256723545
Believe it or not, marketing can make people want something that they previously didnt give a fuck about, even if they already knew it existed.
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>>256723545
Don't put words in my mouth. Changing its name fixes only one problem. Marketing isn't just an issue of people knowing it exists. They also have to be told why they should buy it, and that's something Nintendo is CURRENTLY failing at with their marketing. Listen dude, I agree with you that its specs are weak, its library was lackluster until fairly recently, and the tablet is strange. But none of that stuff has ever mattered for Nintendo before; the failure here is failing to present their product to the consumer in an appealing way.
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>>256703484
>Anyways, it's still the only console with games.

That's not much of an accomplishment when you've been in the market for 400+ years before the competition. And the sad thing is that 2014 is still a weak year.

The Wii-U and its Brawl 2.0 + Dynasty Warriors Rehash is just enough to justify $299.

But the PS4 will gain value in 2015 and 2016 with a ton of exclusives. It's a much better investment long-term. I say this purely as an analyst and the PS3's trajectory at this time.
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>>256703732
loved the gamepad in WWHD.
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>>256723203
They don't care because it's Nintendo.
Nobody cares about Nintendo anymore.
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>>256721726
>immediately used by apple
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>>256703314
WiiPad
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>>256723339
>Most of us here on /v/ already knew that the Wii U's main problem was the naming and marketing of the console.

And the non-interesting Wii-U controller.

And the last-gen hardware.

And the lack of third-party (which the Wii even had).

All 3 of those points are far more significant than any other deficit...by a long shot.
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>>256723339
>main problem
It's a big problem but it's not the "main" problem
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>>256705124
Surely looking away from the screen breaks immersion a lot more than just a pause menu or a slowed time quick menu (e.g GTAV/RDR weapon wheels)
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y'know, every time an article like this sprouts up one question always comes to my mind: why? Why does the Wii U's name irritate journalists so much? Seriously, we all agreed the X Box One's name was stupid but now journalists have either forgotten about it or wear kid gloves. What is it about the Wii U's name that garners such bizarre, obsessive HATE with people? I'm seriously asking here. I don't want to think journos are being petty, whiny children but that's the only logical conclusion I can come to. Though ironically it is illogical
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>>256724535
They dont like Nintendo.
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>>256721865
They could've EASILY called it the fucking SUPER Wii and been in the clear. Holy shit, Nintendo.
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>>256724535
Nitpicking and beating around the bush, see
>>256724189
>>256723557
>>256722701
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>>256723829
I really don't get why people here flat out deny that a PS4 is better for the long term. What's Nintendo gonna have after Zelda U? Mario Party?
PS4 is outselling the competition and it hasn't been out a full year. The thing hasn't even really started going yet. It's just beginning.
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Should've been "Wii HD" "Super Wii" or "Wii HD"
Make sure it isn't just an accessory for the Wii (which a ton of people tend to think) but a brand new console. Wii U is a horrible name, and the console would've sol a ton better if it were called something else.
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>>256704430
Nintendo's handhelds are getting pretty close.
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>>256721135
You forgot some
>DS
>DS Lite
>DSi
>DSi XL
>3DS
>3DS XL
>2DS
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>>256724932
Makes me wonder if Sony can keep up the momentum, because consoles that shoot up front tend to peter out.
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>>256706328
>nogamestation4
i'm fond of the piss poor myself.
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I love the Wii U but he's right.
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>>256724932
And I don't get people who den that PC>PS4 in the long run.
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>>256724327
If anything its more immersive. When you pull out your phone or a map or something in real life, you look down at it and read it while things are still happening around you. Pausing the game to look at a menu or map or whatever instantly reminds you that you're playing a video game.
>>256723829
>But the PS4 will gain value in 2015 and 2016 with a ton of exclusives
lol
>>256722734
They just didn't tell people they wanted it loud enough. That's what sold the other two consoles, because it certainly wasn't the wide selection of quality games, Sony and MS shoved it right in your face repeatedly and told you you wanted it.

Lots of people want the 3DS and its games and it was marketed well enough, the Wii U just had a piss-poor launch window because Nintendo assumed the brand name and third-party ports would carry it and it didn't. It has, by far, the highest attach rate of the three new consoles, people that own it buy games for it. The problem is that Nintendo needs to present it in a more appealing way and tell people it has fun, exclusive games over and over and over again.
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>>256725418
They're losing some of it, but seeing how the PS3 ended up they might catch on quicker this time
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>>256707184
>The parents thought Nintendo was exploiting their children into buying new and expensive hardware for new games.
they were right. it still happens.
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>>256724932
If all you like are shooters and cinematic games with sparse, casualized gameplay for the masses that you can only play by yourself, then yeah, the PS4 is better in the long run (unless you have a PC that isn't a toaster.) The Wii U is easily the best of the three consoles because its at least not rendered completely useless by a half-decent PC.
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>>256726253
I get rather tired of platformers though.
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>>256716032

Just like how no one asked for another Donkey Kong, right?

Just because you don't like them doesn't mean everyone else doesn't like them.
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>>256726379
Then get a half-decent PC
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>>256726381
No, nobody asked for another Donkey Kong.

Then it came, and well whatever.

And then there was ANOTHER fucking Donkey Kong...
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>>256726182
There's no way they're going to keep sales at the level they were at and shortly after launch. The Wii kept selling and selling because it was something wildly new and different for most people and appealed to pretty much everyone while the PS4 isn't and doesn't. The Xbone has 98% of the games the PS4 and has more of its own exclusives, so I think the gap will close between them as long as MS doesn't try to re-implement any of that bullshit DRM.
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>>256703314
Wii2 / WiiToo.

Super Wii.
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>>256726457
To play shooters and Doom mods? Oh and strategy games and emulators, I guess.
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>>256726253
>>256726457
Okay, well since I'm spending this money on a PC, I really don't feel like getting a Wii U. It's fucking moronic to market your console as an optional supplement to the mainstream market.
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>>256726541
i had a ball with dong freeze.
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i think it's a great idea that Nintendo's 9th console should be called the Hyper Nintendo Entertainment System that pars with PS4 hardware but higher. Maybe lower since their wasn't a 8th gen game that's pushed the system's chips and hardware. (ex. Sunshine for GCN, ??? for Xbox, and SotC for PS2)
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PS3 will still get games in 2015.

Think about that. PS3 will probably outlive Wii U.
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>>256726541

I guess 8 million copies of Returns sold mean no one.

god you are stupid.
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>>256726724
it might be a smaller pie but they get it all to themselves. it does make business sense. it didn't actually work out but i can see what they were trying to do.
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>>256726667
Nice shitposting. I suppose that PS4 is excellent for exclusive titles like Knack and Infamous: Can't even reach 60 FPS edition.
Inb4
>bloodborne
That shit isn't out yet and most of your highly anticipated exclusives are coming next year.
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>>256726821
>anime/moe image
>shitpost/flamebait post
you never learn /a/ or Rugga
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>>256725935
>When you pull out your phone or a map or something in real life,
I'm surrounded by real life though, it's seamless

In a game on a TV by looking down to a tablet it brings you from one part of the game to the other via your front room.

Second screen in a TV context is a failure, it didn't work for TV and it wont work for games either. There is nothing compelling and certainly nothing system selling about an inventory screen in your lap.
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>>256726541
>And then there was ANOTHER fucking Donkey Kong...

I'll admit, when it was announced, I rolled my eyes. But then when it came out, that shit was fucking FANTASTIC. Better than the last in every way except difficulty (it wasn't as brutal). Absolutely nothing wrong with that game.
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>>256727135
It's actually not even an unrealistic thought.
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>>256726929
That piece gets smaller and smaller every generation while the rest of the pie is growing at a ridiculous rate. How is this a smart business move? I understand they have a big cash pile, but what the fuck do their investors think we they see GTA V bring in a billion dollars without a penny going towards Nintendo? They need to wise up and drastically rethink their philosophy.
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>>256726724
That's absolutely what they should be doing. What, you think it should be a mid-range laptop with AAA shooters like the other two consoles? Yeah, you're right, why appeal to everyone, even owners of the other two competing consoles and PCs, when you can just appeal directly to people who probably own/are more likely to buy one of the other two consoles or a PC?

Even if you have another console or a PC there's still something you might like on the Wii U that will get you to buy one.
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>>256727307
saying the WiiU is gonna die soon is like saying the Gamecube or PS3 (sadly) is gonna die soon.

it's Gamecube 2.0 at this point
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>>256727605
>saying the WiiU is gonna die soon
No one said this. I think he just hurt your feelings so much you accidentally misinterpretted.
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>>256727605
>gamecube gonna die soon
that was years ago.
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>>256727782
what? how did you miss that?
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>>256715995

The thing is dude, at least half of video game sales are people buying games/systems for other people.

I work at Fucking Gamestop, and I get at least 1 person a day ask me, "What's that Wii U? Is that a tablet/controller/handheld?"
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>>256726992
no need, Bloodborne is so far shit after looking at this.

plus Souls games are known for having shit FPS' and From never fix it.
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>>256703185
He's completely right. Nintendo dropped the ball so fucking hard on the name it's ridiculous. We could have gotten ultra NES, Revolution (which should have been the Wii's real name anyway), nintendo 128, anything would have been better than Wii U.
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Of course someone working at Nintendo would blame the name, way easier than admitting it's not a good console.

Super Nintendo had the same issue where parents thought it was just the "premium" version, but get enough kids saying "we want the SUPER nintendo mom!" because they actually want it and it's important to them, and the problem is solved.
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>>256727418
You have it backward.

The 'core' subset of customers is the pie that's not getting any bigger, and it's the pie that, previously, everyone was trying to grab a slice of. The Gamecube sold poorly, and Nintendo realized they couldn't keep trying to directly compete for that same single 'core' pie. So the Wii appealed to everyone, Nintendo could still grab a little pie but also had 'casual' muffins, cookies and funnel cake to grab from too.

Nintendo is trying to appeal to everyone instead of a single subset of customers, they want everyone to buy and play their games, not just males in their teens-to-early-thirties. Something that people who already own a PS4 or Xbone might want to buy as well. The Wii U would probably be going a little better if they hadn't dropped the ball with marketing and letting people know about their console at the beginning.
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>>256727782
see your post >>256726821
>PS3 will probably outlive Wii U.
you said it's gonna be dead soon because of another console.


>>256727830
remember that news when Gamecube was going to be discontined by May or some other month because of Xbox or PS2?
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>>256728170
nowadays all the kids want the new COD
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>>256727980
Right, the same people who would probably have to ask you questions about an Xbox or Playstation as well before buying something to make sure he/she had it right.

>>256728170
>working
Worked. Past tense.
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>>256727535
If those mid range shooters are bringing Microsoft, Sony and Valve tens of millions of dollars, yeah. Being the only games available on a console doesn't make Nintendo games better or more special. If they were simply an amazing exclusive incentive, and their hardware was on par with their competitors, they could easily take advantage of both markets. They would have to aggressively work to shed their perceived "kiddy" image, but it's possible.
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>>256728378
The Xbox barely outsold it too, only by a million or two. They both sold like dog shit compared to the PS2, but MS got their foot and brand name in the door, which is what they wanted.
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>>256728275
Nintendo couldn't compete with the other core platforms because they were constantly behind in hardware/user experience. PS2 sold boatloads because it had a DVD player. XBox had Live. Gamecube had a handle.
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>>256703314
Ultimate Nintendo Entertainment System
The UNES

Acts as both a throwback to their original systems, is an easy acronym to remember, and doesn't sound like it's a Wii expansion anymore.
Either way, it's too late now, and Nintendo will continue to be retarded when it comes to marketing.
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>>256728510

Exactly, so how is the argument that people can't seem to tell the difference wrong?
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>>256728831
>Gamecube had a handle.
This is very useful! I saw someone mod an old gamecube into a handbag thanks to that handle.

The best of of the gamecbe.
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>>256703314
Super Nintendo Entertainment Wii Cube 64
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>>256728668
>If those mid range shooters are bringing Microsoft, Sony and Valve tens of millions of dollars, yeah
First, Nintendo has made so much more money than both Sony and MS's game divisions by a huge margin, and Valve makes money because they have their own proprietary storefront and DRM on every PC playing games with absolutely no competition.

Valve is actually a good example, but not for the point you're trying to make. Nintendo stands to make more money with their own walled garden, not by trying to do what Sony and MS are doing. Steam is successful because Valve controls every aspect of it with little/no competition and it has games that appeal to pretty much everyone. They're not just trying to nab a certain demographic that their competitors already have in their pockets, Nintendo will fare much better with their 'blue ocean' strategy than anything else.
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>>256728849
or the Nintendo Ultima?

>>256729060
>NSMB-like creativity
shit tyrone, get it together
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>>256703314

Nintendo U. It would be easy as shit to advertise too.

>men from the "Wii would like to play" commercials playing some Wii U game
>people see what he's playing and are peeking through the window
>suddenly, the two Japanese men magically pop up behind the spectators
>"Would U like to play?"
>cut to everybody having fun and having a good time playing Wii U games
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>>256728831
But again, the Xbox sold like ass too though, despite also supporting DVD playback, being the same price as the PS2 but with better hardware and Live later in its life.

The PS2 sold largely on its brand name coupled with the fact that it was a DVD player.
>It's a new Playstation AND it played DVDs!
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I honestly have no idea where the game industry is going, but it doesn't look good. I honestly don't see any reason why the PS4 is going well, then again, it isn;t the Xbone which is doing worse than the Wii U.

>>256703314
NES Revolution
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>>256728668

I don't think you understand the concept of a bubble. Nintendo not only survived a gaming crash, but revitalized the industry.

I realize the pre-crash era in the 80s was somewhat different than what we have now, but there's a lot of similarities.

>consoles that don't have enough to distinguish themselves from the competition
>rehashing of games
>budgets getting out of control
>games being made under the assumption that they are guaranteed to make record profits (Destiny comes to mind)
>quality of games declining (bug fixes, day one patches)
>reviews that can't be trusted

There's a lot going on and I don't blame Nintendo for being apprehensive about trying to jump on the bandwagon.

Look at the state of xbox, playstation, and PC. Xbone and PS4's design decision entirely revolved around third parties bossing MS and Sony around and telling them they need to make things that are easy to port to. Companies like EA and Ubi are in control of the xbone/PS4/PC market
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>>256730245
>EA and UBI
>in charge of PC
Almost noone uses their shit services, though. Valve has most of the control.
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>>256729437
>>256729539
Really anything that doesn't have "Wii" in the name and emphasizes on the "U" part would be a shitton better for sales/marketing. They should just re-brand the damn thing if they ever decide to come out with a "lite" version.
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>>256730193
>Xbone which is doing worse than the Wii U.
I'd rather be the person in charge of the XBO than the WiiU at this point.
I think people like you are a bit disillusioned when you say the XBO won't end up outselling it.
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>>256730561
It's in its first year and its performance has slowed down to the point where it is selling less than the Wii U. The best case scenario that I see that it will preform as well as the Wii U in its life cycle which isn't saying that much.
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