"[EarthBound]'s the only Japanese RPG I've ever played right through to the end, unless you count Mario & Luigi or Paper Mario RPGs, which personally I don't, because to my mind a JRPG just isn't a JRPG unless it ends with teenagers using the power of friendship to kill god."
You have 15 seconds to name another JRPG that does not fit that description.
>unless you count Mario & Luigi or Paper Mario RPGs, which personally I don't, because to my mind a JRPG just isn't a JRPG unless it ends with teenagers using the power of friendship to kill god.
What a fucking idiotic thing to say
>Video about Link Between Worlds
>Drops the subject to talk about the Wii U's problem for %75 of the video
>Ends it with Link Between worlds again to complain about Bombs and Arrows
This fucking guy
>which personally I don't, because to my mind a JRPG just isn't a JRPG unless it ends with teenagers using the power of friendship to kill god.
I don't even like JRPGs but that's one of the most narrow-minded things I've ever heard.
Yahtzee doesn't play games, when he does it's on easy mode, complains about tutorials, complains about lack of tutorials, and reviews games in genre's he has no fucking clue about.
But you couldn't have done it without your friends help. aka forcing you to follow them 10 yards to the nearest door every time you enter a town so they can tell you to go there next.
>You have 15 seconds to name another JRPG that does not fit that description.
Yahtzee is basically the ultrapleb
he 'reviewed' mh3 but only played it for around a hour and gave up after losing to the first great jaggi
He has ascended normal levels of pleb to become something even worse
Well, yeah, that one's the only iffy part. He's more so just a being of great power to me instead of a god. The rest does actually fit though.
>most party members are over 20
>they use their resolve to focus on saving the world
I do not know why some people here consider his video reviews, he is more of an entertainer than a reviewer. At least that is how I see him anyway and never bother to take him as seriously as all of you in this thread seem to.
Except the ending of Paper Mario TTYD has you healed up and boosted in strength by the love and support of everyone you've helped during your journey.
In Super Paper Mario the power of love saves the multiverse from being destroyed.
In Partners in Time its baby's tears.
Paper Mario/TTYD has very light JRPG elements and might be good to see sort of what they're like.
Chrono Trigger is to my mind baby's first JRPG, or at least it was the first I ever played and I thought it was a very good foray into the genre.
And EarthBound parodies elements of the genre in a 20th century Western setting, and is pretty easy, so that might be a good entry-level choice also.
Except 1) Mew is never explicitly referred to as a god, 2) You couldn't legitimately catch Mew until Gen 3, and 3) Pokemon "ends" when you defeat the Champion, who is not a god, nor does s/he use "God-Like" Pokemon. Closest you get is Pseudo-Legendaries.
>You couldn't legitimately catch Mew until Gen 3
But you could though, it was given out in game events and you could even do it in game.
Explicitly or not it's heavily implied.
>Pokemon "ends" when you defeat the Champion
That's pure bullshit.
Mewtwo was the final boss of Gen 1 just like Red was the final boss of Gen 2.
the E4 being the final bosses ARE a recent thing.
I know but it still funny how Dragon Quest set the ground works of how a JRPG was meant to be but they never fell into the tropes that a lot of JRPG fall into.
Oh definitely. I'm just saying that for a game that was as influential as Dragon Quest and never really fall into the things that most JRPG fall into is kind of crazy.
Final Fantasy XIII also counts in this too.
a JRPG just isn't a JRPG unless:
>it ends with teenagers
Lightning is 21, Snow is 21, Sazh is 40, Fang is 21 (although 521 technically), and Vanille is 19 (519 technically). The only teenager among them was Hope who was 14
>using the power of friendship
Alright I will give them that one.
>to kill god.
Orphan isn't a god. Orphan is a wheel-like fal'Cie and the source of Cocoon's power, who rests within Orphan's Cradle in an area known as Narthex Throne. Residing within a pool in a deep sleep in a state of unbirth, Orphan is the main power source to fal'Cie Eden, enabling it to siphon power from other fal'Cie to keep Cocoon afloat.
So a lot of that doesn't fit Zero Punctuation's though
Why is Yahtzee so biased against Japan in general? He abhors anything that comes from Japan, not limited to video games, even things like anime. Did he get raped by a Japanese guy as a kid or something?
Orphan's a machine. Not a god. Something that is a god is along the lines of Kefka at the end of FF6. Or Izanagi in Persona 4.
Saying that Orphan is a god is like saying that Skynet in the Terminator series is a god.
From his other podcasts he seems to be a closet weeb desperately trying to hide his powerlevel, no one else would think of watching Gankutsuou as a go to Count of Monte Cristo adaptation, or know random stuff like how Kouta Hirano started his career with Cowboy Bebop doujinshi.
The dude really is full of himself though and considers himself a journalist. You should see his lps. His dumbass friend Gabe actually redeemed himself a bit in one when he trashed yahtzee and all other game journalists.
how many are we going to be gone, from the north to see your cock and whenever new news is a function Zero Punctuation naked and waiting the Earthbound password for the Internet open your mothers skin waiting around on a bunch of teenagers not see tomorrow
Lets just state the obvious one here. DARK SOULS.
I'll now name some really weeb ones.
Most Shin Megami Tensei
And if we need a Final Fantasy we can try XII, The Undying was a demigod at most.
In this game, they don't use friendship, because friendship would require one of them to have some sembalnce of personality. No, they just use the plot device sword and Sveta's literal plot armor to kill a dragon that came right the fuck out of nowhere. Turns out that nothing you did mattered and the villain got away. Oh yeah, and the plot point that was dropped 10 minutes in reappears for no fucking reason. Fuck this game
One of his old websites had a blog where he took a bold pro-hentai stance so that's very possible
Maybe he had one too many bad run ins with anime fans and can't mentally separate the experience from the consumer
Would Cave Story even count? That's more of a metroidvania title than traditional JRPG.
Regardless, play Cave Story anyways, faget!
I think Yahtzee's a dipfuck anymore, but I actually agree here.
We need a new netural term for JRPGs that are clearly meant to appeal to weeblords, as opposed to RPGs that just so happen to be made in Japan but nevertheless have international appeal.
His stance doesn't make the statement any less true.
Most JRPGs in history are about teenagers finding their destiny and love.
Most today are the same idea just with more wifiu bullshit.
It's sad really.
Lavos is treated as a god.
>Final Fantasy VI
>After the end of the world Kefka drains the Triad of their power, turning them into weakened husks and himself into a god
>Final Fantasy VII
Already talked about in this thread.
Cave Story isn't a JRPG in the slightest, nor an RPG at all, it's an action-adventure platformer.
Speaking of which, we really need better names for this shit, action-adventure is just too broad.
Are you people dense? I literally said that.
>Would [that] even count? It's more of a metroidvania title
I didn't want to sperg out on the guy I quoted, so I said it in a less assertive manner in the form of a question.
Did anyone watch his new video?
Apparently the western anime boom came from nintendo taking over the home console market after atari went to shit. Which is understandable but just plain wrong.
>you can be what looks to be a teenager
i dunno if it's god per say but a mary sue ish person
You kill yourself After you become *god*
At least they haven't touched space funeral yet
That concept, whether you think of them as a god or not, is what Yahtzee was talking about all JRPGS having.
You can say those aren't gods, and that Yahtzee was using the wrong terminology, but it's still a common thing in JRPGs.
I don't think spess fewneral was kawaii enough or had characters they could project their headselfs onto.
Or whatever it is that draws the homestuck audience to shit up indie games. Thank god for that.
Can't say the same for YN. Rip in rip.
There are no gods at all in anything because a god is ultimate and infinite, qualifiers which zero video game characters attain and zero worldly religions achieve.
Now can we please go back to referring to gods as beings powerful enough to have complete control over at least one sphere of reality who are revered by lesser beings as a result of their ability to do so?
IS Space Funeral even a complete game?
I've seen a few playthroughs of it but I remember none of them really ended. They go to that part where the guy takes your blood and then tries to get more but if you give him more you die
That's a stupid way to put it. Simply because the act of killing god is supposed to be about rebellion and that link up with teenage angst that people think JRPGs have thanks to FF.
Beating up a really powerful thing is not a cliche. It's simply an event. That's like saying using a sword is a cliche or combat is a cliche
I don't think so.
You wouldn't happen to be a cicada, would you? You wanna go back to my place and meet my kids?
I still need to beat Abyss, I just feel like it really should have ended like five twists ago. I've gone through like four of five dungeons that felt like they were totally the final dungeon, it just seems like the story is stretching itself out at this point.
Sure, tumblr fagged it up but we got a few laughs out of it.
silver linings, i guess.
Are you shitting me? Maybe if you're under the age of 14, but it's one of the most common acronyms for describing all-white communities.
Among minorities, it's essentially the polite version of "cracker".