Nobody hates anti-Ridleyfags because they simply don't want Ridley in.
They're insufferable because they actively ignore all the valid arguments brought up regarding his inclusion and play coy as hell that the April direct (and numerous other instances) aren't fishy as fuck. Also, whenever confronted about this, or that one speculative image that's posted every thread, they resort to the same tired old retorts:
That's essentially to what they boil down to, it's often verbatim. They also like to force the notion of Ridleyfags being 'cancer' while they are the ones incapable of having a typical smash argument regarding inclusion without using childlike logic and resorting to name calling. They are also the first to start flinging shit, while a Ridleyfag would simply discuss Ridley's inclusion, an anti-Ridleyfag would start off his posting by making personal attacks towards the RIDLEYFAGS in particular, they just wan't to ruin fun. I know it's a little counter-intuitive to make a thread like this calling them out, but at least it isn't in a general smash thread, this is a Ridley thread. I just felt like this needs to be addressed.
tl;dr- Anti-Ridleyfags simply want to see other smashbros suffer, they refuse to have legitimate conversation, and they ruin every roster thread.
I think I got you covered.
At least use this as a starting point.
meh. There are plenty of anti-ridley arguments that make sense. The idea that he couldn't be done justice is a pretty rational one. Size, boss stuff
But fuck Sakurai is constantly surprising us. I thought Pac-Man would be the same dull shit fans have dreamt of for years but all his moves were excellent and original.
The only Anti-Ridley fags that should be hated are the twats who try to deny his importance to Metroid or to Samus herself.
Well, one of the most obvious in my opinion is how tongue and cheek they're being about his 'supposed stage boss debut'. I doubt I have to get into the nitty gritty about it at this point, assuming you've been keeping up. It's been like 4 months since the 'tease', they're actively ignoring how they beat around the bush, and Ridley's never referred to by name. Lot of theatrics for a mere stage boss, especially since he was a boss in Brawl, so the 'building hype for a boss reveal' argument kind of falls flat. He's also being handled with more care and rusing-intention than yellow devil.
problem with ridley is imho at this point he's pretty much the only potential metroid rep and a lot of people want more attention for metroid
I'd have been quite happy with dark samus as well, but that's gone the way of the assist trophy
Well, you're the one that made this thread, bucko. Right now you're just asking them to swarm on you.
I think the fact that Ridley hasn't been shown in any gameplay footage is suspicious, but it could just be Sakurai overestimating how much players care about stage bosses. I'll just be happy in a month when the roster is revealed so we can stop having these stupid threads.
You want three iterations of Samus on the roster?
>Well, you're the one that made this thread, bucko. Right now you're just asking them to swarm on you.
I know, better here than a regular roster thread. Nobody is trying to play 'the victim' here.
>You want three iterations of Samus on the roster?
well just saying dark samus/metroid prime is a pretty prominent metroid villain and the only one that happens to be fairly easy to fit into smash
and focusing on the whole pseudo-skeletal look DS has going for her in a few appearances would have sufficiently distinguished her.
Well if he gets deconfirmed it really won't be any different than it is now with the whole "never ever" and such and webm related.
However should he be playable, it will literally mean that, short of copywrite, there is NO excuse to deem a character to be unable to join smash bros.
I have yet to hear any real proof that Ridley is more likely than any other character. All of the things I hear from people are just things that suggest he's a candidate, not that he's likely to be playable.
If anything I think he's slightly less likely than a lot of characters considering he's a stage hazard.
There's nothing stopping him from being both though, but he's not more likely than anyone else just because we haven't outright seen him.
Couldn't care less about Ridley Scott, I just want pic related.
You want a valid argument? Ok.
With Samus and Zero Suit Samus, thats 2 Metroid reps. Regardless of what Ridleyfags say, the Metroid franchise is not on the same tier with The Mario Bros, Pokemon, Zelda, Fire Emblem, and the other franchises with +3 Reps in regards of popularity. The chances of another Metroid character are the same of another F-Zero character; non existent.
>there's no evidence
Besides the fact he's literally not confirmed as that?
This is that 'fishyness' I was talking about earlier. You can choose to take it at face value, but you can just as easily speculate because of the blatant shadow tease or the 4 month delay on addressing it.
There's never any 'real proof' on either sides of the fence with roster inclusions. If there was 'proof' there wouldn't even be any need to discuss it. Even a leak aren't considered proof until they're already confirmed. That's what these threads are for, speculating to the best of our abilities, because that's all we can do.
>In 64 he was in the background of the Zebes stage similar to Dedede in the Dreamland stage
>In Melee he was part of the opening despite not making an appearance anywhere else in the game besides a trophy
>In Brawl he was one of the bosses in the Subspace Emissary
>Now in Smash 4 he's being teased as a stage boss
It's definitely about time he should be a playable character, I just don't think it's likely seeing how Sakurai has been relegating him to other roles.
The sad part about it is nothing is really stopping him from being playable
It's not about who the Shadow was, that much is clear, it's about why only a shadow, why is this not addressed 4 months later, and why are the being obviously coy about a stage boss while others have been straightforward as have been general character disconfirms. Besides, like I mentioned earlier, the 'hype' seems fishy and unwarranted since Ridley was a boss in Brawl, why the theatrics for it now?
I wonder if anyone has made a compilation video of all those people reacting to that ridley scene in the Nintendo Direct.
I just want the game to come out already so you fucking ridleyfags would stop being fucking retard already
He's not going to be in
>he doesn't know how to play as Master Hand in melee
People just hate seeing every damn thread get derailed into fucking Ridley arguments that have been done to fucking death a million fucking times. Seriously, it's always the same
>'RUDLAY 2 BIG LEL'
>'NUH UH HERE PROOF'
And it just goes on and on and on and on back and forth until the thread dies. Nothing changes. Nothing ever fucking changes. EVER. Neither side is going to sway the other and convince them of fucking anything, and yet they insist on spouting the same regurgitated shit and posting the same fucking 2BIG maymays, pictures and diagrams and shit, thinking they're somehow going to make a difference.
It's not just the anti-Ridleyfags, or just the Ridleyfags, it's both. Both are contributing to this trite shit, so stop pointing fingers like you're somehow exempt of any blame, OP.
Ridley is an ugly pencil necked retarded side boss, he wouldn't fit in with the other characters, has a track record of doing jack shit, and is going to be a stage hazard no matter how hard you cry.
I wonder what Ridley's splatting on the screen would look like.
>EVERYONE'S A FAGGOT EXCEPT ME
You're so mature and above this 'nonsense', I'm impressed
It's real easy to take the upper middle-ground like a coward, anon.
>the same small minority called Ridleyfags goes to every Smash poll and votes Ridley
>now it looks like that Ridley is desired by the majority even though he isn't
Ridley is artifically requested. He's not as highly requested as you think he is.
Without anti-Ridleyfags, Ridleyfags would have no call to make the same arguments over and over because everyone would have just gone "hm, yeah maybe so".
Without Ridleyfag arguments, anti Ridleyfags would still be antagonizing and bringing it up at every opportunity. There is a clear problem here.
I'm not for or against the fucking thing, but it's gotten old really quick seeing the same shit thrown between the two sides in just about every damn thread. Just give it a fucking break.
>Plus he doesn't really have a character
You must not frequent these types of threads enough to use this argument. I'll just make it short.
They're not exactly oozing with character.
Anyways, I think Ridley could have a cool moveset, I think he would play similar to Firebrand in UMvC3.
In all seriousness, it should look like this but he fucks up and slams into the camera.
Wow, 1000 pages in a gaming forum, do you think Sakurai will stop by and read all those posts about how good Ridley would be?
I sure hope he checks out the character polls too, Cloud from FF would make an epic character, so would goku!
>anti-Ridleyfags don't want Ridley in
>they want Ashley in
>they want Geno in
>they want Paper Mario in
>they want Shulk in
>they want Issac in
>they want Dixie Kong in
ARFs are the ultimate shitters.
He's just proving the OP right, leave him be. We'll let him be an example.
>"STOP TALKING ABOUT THINKS I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT"
How about you grow up and ignore the shit if it's giving you such an aneurysm.
yfw samurai reveals that ridley is a stage boss tomorrow on miiverse
Or just some guys who want Metroid representation and/or want a cool purple pterodactyl space pirate in.
I don't ever get how people can't see how some people find Ridley cool. They must no know shit about Metroid and are just on the ARF bandwagon.
>Ignoring the point I was making to shitpost
When did I even say Sakurai would look through gaking forums? The guy I was replying to said nobody wants Ridley in Smash. I provided 1300 pages of posts proving him wrong. Deal with it.
>MY REFUSAL TO READ THIS PROOF MEANS YOU HAVE NO PROOF
the constant jokes and maymays on ridley make it hard for me to take these arguments seriously.
i see sakurai mention ridley after talking about bosses and now people are trying so hard to convince others that it means he's playable.
>They must *not know shit about Metroid
Sure, I even acknowledge it in the OP. I'm not going to be a pouty child and refuse to discuss because of the possibility though. Those shitposters 'win' when they get us to stop talking about what we want.
I'm even a Metroid fan and never understood why Ridley was in every single game in some manner. He's just an anorexic long-necked flying lizard. I understand his 'history' with Samus but I feel as if she could have had a better nemesis later on.
I feel like one of the few guys who like the Metroid series but couldn't give a fuck about Ridley. I mean sure he terrorized the shit out of young samus in the manga and all but I honestly had no feelings for him.
>mfw it's almost been a year since Sakurai first revealed the Pyrosphere on Miiverse and teased Ridley
>I didn't read it
You niggers don't even try.
Well, that IS the main reason why the Ridley hate has grown by so much in the past months. If someone's no. 1 pick for Smash gets deconfirmed, may as well let out the frustration on the most requested character yet to be deconfirmed.
Not fucking really, anon. You're not 'an opposing side', you're just a faggot who wants people to stop talking about what you don't like. You have no business here at all with that mentality.
how is that a relevant reaction?
pic related, it's a real reaction.
So how many Ridleyfag suicides should I expect after he's finally, irrevocably confirmed as a stage hazard/special mode boss?
>I'd rather have a real mario character than Rosalina.
Im also a Waluigifag, but Rosalina is definitely more of a Mario character than Waluigi.
Waluigi is only in spinoffs, if he showed up in something that wasn't a party or sport game he would have actual credibility.
Miyamoto must really hate him, for to not even have him in the warioware games. I just want the Wario Bros to be in a Mario RPG as recurring boss fights, shit would be cash.
>A month and a half before Japanese release
Who here can't wait to see the butthurts?
I'm pretty much convinced that Anit-Ridleyfags are people who turned nihilist after realizing their favorite characters weren't going to make it in, and just enjoy watching everyone suffer.
Hell, I've kept up to date with most of it myself, so I KNOW most of it's positive. If you're the one that wants to find out for yourself, then go ahead and do it. Doesn't change what it is either way really.
>she could have had a better nemesis later on.
Oh come on. It's the last survivor of a species of space dragons who is the Space Pirates #1 enforcer. Where baseline space pirates are the guys who can tear apart federation troops like wet paper, he's the guy the higher up send to get shit done because they are scared of him.
What's a better rival than that? Except for maybe just a another equally skilled bounty hunter. But that would be a bit boring.
>ARF's are Furries
>While defending your scalie husbando
to be honest Smash Bros 3DS looks more complete right now in the demo. Even the competitive community feels it runs better than the Wii U version.
Ridley isn't even ever a final boss and is really only a focus in Metroid Prime. It's astonishing how much people hype him up as some all important game defining character. Hell, I was talking to my friend the other day about Metroid and when I brought up Ridley he responded with "Who?". You could try and argue that he hasn't played any metroid games, but you would be wrong, he has played all of the 2D Metroids and it took until I described what he physically was for him to remember Ridley.
Ridley isn't as iconic as people try to make him be.
What if Ridleys stage hazard confirmation happened like this?
I want to ask you faggots something.
First, I don't fucking care about your space dragon. You can want him, fine. I just have to ask where people get off saying that Metroid is perfectly represented.
>b-but it's about the environments!
Where are the stages? What does lava cave have to do with such environments like Tallon IV, the Sky Sanctuary, the Celestial Archives? SR388? I see Pyrosphere and that's it.
>but Ridley is better as a boss!
Shadow measurements say that he's a manlet, about the size of Bowser, on a stage where five of him could be squeezed in at that size. Is that really a good boss? That's a pretty shitty boss and they could do better keeping to his canon size.
>But ZSS and Samus are different!
It's Samus. Twice.
Anthony for Smash.
All of the arguments and speculation is irrelevant because the final decision belongs to a guy who doesn't even know you exist. You spend hours developing autistic theories about the most banal shit and I only need 10 seconds to come in and call you autistic. The best part is that Ridley will not be in smash (again) and all of your emotional investment into this retarded argument will be meaningless until the next smash game is announced.
>One group of people just want to speculate the inclusion of a character in roster speculation threads.
>The other group get's their rocks off from attacking groups of people for speculating a character in a roster speculation thread..
Yeah, you don't come off as an anti-fag at all!
Of course, he could potentially take a famous/amusing pose of some sort like what Luigi and WFT take.
Maybe he slams sideways into the screen like his super metroid sprite position.
you can't make a cake out of tears, you are thinking of blood.
I think it's possible that we're getting a Hunters stage on the 3DS version, because Sakurai is weird like that.
The problem is that Hunters doesn't really have any memorable environment. Maybe the Oubliette?
Holy fuck have you read any fucking SSB thread lately? Ridleyfags constantly state that, for a fact, Ridley is in SSB4. THAT is what pisses me off the most about Ridleyfags.
>One group of people just want to speculate the inclusion of a character in roster speculation threads.
This thread proves different.
If Ridleyfags just want to have their discussion, then why did they start this thread off by openly bashing the anti-fag group in an obvious attempt to start a conflict with them?
That doesn't sound like harmless speculation at all!
out of all the hunters you want sylux over weavel?
>Hell, I was talking to my friend the other day about Metroid and when I brought up Ridley he responded with "Who?". You could try and argue that he hasn't played any metroid games, but you would be wrong, he has played all of the 2D Metroids and it took until I described what he physically was for him to remember Ridley
Your friends a retard, sorry. There's no way someone could play all the 2D Metroid games and not remember Ridley. He's more memorable than any final boss since he's continuous in the franchise. Plus the whole melee trailer and all. I'm not buying this for one fucking second. That's worse than a soulsfag not knowing who Patches the Hyena is. Don't use your friend's ineptitude as a valid argument.
This. All I want is more representation. A Metroid level that doesn't have lava in it, any new fighter from the Metroid series, anything. It doesn't even have to be Ridley, I just think he's the best choice.
>They didn't read the OP
I stated this is a 'Ridley thread', not a roster thread. Calling ARF out was my intention...as stated in the OP.
I never see anyone claim such things except leakfags. Please, take a screencap next time you see it.
>why did they start this thread off by openly bashing the anti-fag group
Because it is impossible to just have a discussion about Ridley here. Moreover, it's impossible to have a Metroid discussion at all on /v/ anymore, and it is very frustrating and disappointing.
what fucking gunplay? you mean zap-zap lasso? dude ZSS already has that, why not get the fucking hunter with an ARM BLADE and a NUCLEAR CANON and a LOWER BODY THAT SEPARATES AND TURNS INTO A FUCKING TURRET. HELL THE FUCKING ICE DREIDEL HAD MORE POTENTIAL VARIETY AND FLAIR.
INB4 "BUT-BUT HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN AT THE END OF ONE OF THE PRIME GAYMEZ"
WEAVEL IS A GODDAMN SPACE PIRATE, THAT IS WAAAAY MORE RELEVANT TO METROID THEN YOUR GAY ASS ROBOT
I just want Ridley to be in so that we can bear witness to the biggest shitstorm of all time
Except he's not nearly as memorable as you and I see him. He knew who Mother Brain was instantly, he knew who Kraid was instantly, the Omega Metroid, the Yakuza, but Ridley? Nope.
It is your logic since you implied it's not a bad thing to stop roster threads altogether just because some faggots are tired of seeing them.
You try again, actually, don't. Just stop posting pls
Why do people keep bringing up Yellow Devil? Third parties only get ONE playable character. It doesn't matter how Sakurai would have shown him, he wouldn't be playable at all anyway.
Every stage with a hazard has had it directly shown, explicitly named, and described. Be it boss hazard or otherwise. EXCEPT for Pyrosphere, which we've known about for an entire year now and all we've gotten is a shadow, some jerky movements, and an offhand "Other boss characters" at the very end of a segment about Yellow Devil. And look how fast and furiously Sakurai has been deconfirming characters without a hint of teasing or rusing. If Ridley wasn't playable, why hasn't he just said it yet?
Imagine if Weavel had a Robin style reveal where Sylux got BTFO by an unrevealed veteran and can't be playable as a result. He gets to show up in Weavel's FS as part of a "Bounty Hunt" though.
>Or you can stop frequenting them, it's a big board anon, plenty of other threads for you to stink up.
If it offends you so much you could tell your autistic brethren to stop making them every 5 minutes and having them on the front page.
>Ridleyfags constantly state that, for a fact, Ridley is in SSB4.
Well... he is.
We just aren't 100% sure of his role.
The issue here is that these are two groups of people that are constantly trying to feel superior to the other one. At this point the conversations aren't even about Ridley anymore, but rather these two groups.
Both appear out of nowhere and start this shit.
Both are irritating as fuck.
inb4 "but Ridleyfags / Anti-Ridleyfags are worse!" No, they're both equally retarded.
God damn I just want to see Wario.
THE FUCK YOU SAY? WHY DON'T YOU TAKE YOUR TRON KNOCK OFF LOOKING ASS AND SAY THAT TO MY FOOTLONG ELECTRIC SHITRIPPER?
I don't get how people would think he could be playable when the tip of his tail is at that big size.
Why would you put yourself in that string of argument then? You're an idiot, regardless of your intent, that's the message you sent across. Don't be a coy retard, and stop piggybacking off of comments if you don't wan't it associated with you
He's not in. He's an air based character that is almost never seen standing in the ground. If this were Super smash bros: Sky Battles edition then he would be in, but that's not the case. Besides, try to think of a good moveset for him. You can't.
Now fuck off you delusional dragon fucker.
You're all insufferable, especially OP. Arguing over if blocks of data forming a purple space lizard make it in or not. You are at each other's throats about it, it is COME GOLD
Look at what you are arguing about
Except Anti-Ridleyfags are doing the shit 24/7 while he hasn't been disconfirmed. That's smash threads 101 for people to get 'BTFO' when a disconfirm happens. Don't be a fucking retard.
>HAHA, ASHLEY FAGS FUCKING REKT. Also I hope Ridley is playable.
You just pulled that out of your ass anyways.
>I stated this is a 'Ridley thread'
Oh fuck off. Just by reading the OP it's obvious as day that you just wanted to start up shit instead of wanting to have a normal civil discussion about the character.
You're either an awful shitposter or an awful fucking retard.
Ever since for someone reason people have been pairing K.Rool and Ridley for Smash, images of them have them get posted constantly whenever someone can make a (de)confirmation of a character.
One of in particular being that image of the the two "laughing" crocodiles edited. Ridleyfags as a group on /v/ are definitely not victimized saints. This coming from a guy who doesn't care about Ridley's inclusion either way.
You are delusional and autistic.
Go ahead and make countless theories that will soon be debunked in a short few months once the game is out, no one is going to stop you. But please do consider getting your head out of your ass. There is no "Anti-Ridleyfags". Out of all the fanbases for hopeful newcomers, Ridleyfags tend to be the most flamboyant and obnoxious. We could give a rats ass whether he's in or not. We just want you to not get your hopes up for a character that is likely just to show up as nothing but a boss. That is all.
And if by some slim glimmering chance he is in, then he'll probably be a Charizard clone.
Where's your reading comprehension, son? It's clear that this thread is here to serve as a hub for Ridley discussion and all Ridley related things, such as anti-Ridleyfag shitposters...as I addressed in the OP.
Fuck off, you dingus.
>MFW Sakurai reveals Ridley as a boss and crushes my hopes
>4 Nintenyearold threads on the front page
I wonder if you play 3ds in public as well. Enjoy your no GTA V as well
>then he'll probably be a Charizard clone
Not that you were convincing anyone before that, but that line just confirmed you as a fucking retard. At least make it subtle that you don't know what you're talking about. Lol, why Charizard? Because they're both DWAGONS?
>You will never genocide all the sonygger population on /v/
And how does that make the argument flawed? A tail that big mean the rest of his is enormous.
Looks like there wasn't even an attempt to better size him for a fighter position.
>Using a Quentin picture
>Using a picture that's satire
I do give you credit though. This thread should be derailed because Ridley arguments are fucking stupid.
With that in mind, I have a 3 that I would like you to see.
>Because they're both DWAGONS?
Congratulations, you figured it out.
Is this a new meme?
I want Ridley but there's no reason get all up-in-arms about it.
Do I think he's likely? Probably not but that doesn't stomp out the fact that he hasn't entirely been deconfirmed.
>And if by some slim glimmering chance he is in, then he'll probably be a Charizard clone.
In the same way Ike is a Marth clone because they both use swords or how Wario is a Mario clone because they're both fat plumbers.
Keep throwing a tantrum. Really please do.
>Admitting you're a fucking idiot
I don't even
>as I addressed in the OP
Oh sorry, I must've missed that itty bitty part in your autistic tirade of an OP about how you don't like a certain group.
It's like trying to start off a Vita thread with furry inflation porn as the OP image. You're not going to get Vita discussion, just furry inflation porn.
It applies to most of his Metroid appearances, too. The exceptions being Prime after his wings burn off, and Prime 3 and Other M because I dunno. Sadly those two are his latest appearances, so he might walk around like a fucking gorilla.
>Anti-Ridleyfags simply want to see other smashbros suffer, they refuse to have legitimate conversation,
Fuck you. I've tried to have reasonable discussions over Ridley many times and they ALWAYS end up with the supporters flat out ignoring logic and refusing to listen to reason because they've convinced themselves Ridley must be playable and thus anything that contradicts that has to be explained away through any means necessary.
>Sakurai is teasing us with the Pyrosphere stage
Why? Because he's not showing you exactly what you want to see? The initial reveal was "An enemy from Samus's past may appear at any time", the stage has two holes in for a boss to fly in and out of, and Ridley was shown to be on the stage during the boss segment.
>Sakurai has explicitly deconfirmed assist trophies when he shows them, why not Ridley?
Maybe, but Ridley would be a boss character. If we're going by how he handled things in the past, the only confirmed boss we have is the Yellow Devil and it was a long time before we got any clarification on him. Same is happening with Ridley.
>His model moves unusually in the video
Why? Are you saying you know how it SHOULD move, or that that's how it will move in the final game? Besides that, why would that even support the idea that Ridley is playable?
The one thing in common with the majority of Ridley arguments is that they can only be reached by first assuming that Ridley is playable and working back from there to support that.
That's some selective-beration there.
I'm throwing a tantrum by calling out his post that starts off by calling someone delusional and autistic?
I get the feeling he was inflammatory to groups he thinks will yield the largest pool of negative responses.
I honestly think he is everything he mocks and exemplifies them to comical degrees, but just teases himself and the groups he belongs to solely for shitposting.
No, just saying if purple pterodactyl makes it in, he'll be a clone. Still, we both know what's most likely. Purposely misspelling doesn't make your argument stronger.
You're slow on the ball aren't you, and why so mad? I don't understand what you want from me, anon. Everyone else seemed to understand the thread topic and what they're walking into, don't derail discussion because of your inability to know what's going on around you.
I think it'd be hard for Ridley to be playable without him being a semi Charizard clone. There's also the fact that the Pyrosphere stage wasn't playable at the E3 Demo which could be hinting that he's the Stage's hazard. There's also the possibly that he'll probably be a Boss again (assuming Boss Battles are returning that is). This all kinda counts for Meta Ridley as well since they're apparently separate beings in the Smash Universe I think, but he's definitely more likely to be a Boss way more than regular Ridley. Just remember, Ridley's gonna be in the game no matter what. Even if he's just a Trophy, he's still technically in the game.
In every single appearance he spends most of his time on the ground then takes to the air. The only Ridley fight that isn't grounded for a significant portion is the first Corruption fight where he's just falling down a shaft.
There's that word again. So do Ridleyfags follow the same tactics as Bronies and Furries by creating buzzwords to protect them (Anti-Brony, Anti-Furry)?
You don't know shit about Ridley and your argument is like 5 months too old to even humor. If anything, he'd play similar to Firebrand in UMvC3, but you wouldn't know that since you only knowledge of Ridley comes from shitposting in roster threads.
I love this, every single thread about ridley getting in or not is just building up for when he gets confirmed/deconfirmed. The shitstorm will be glorious. probably the biggest /v/'s ever seen.
what metroid character should be added instead of ridley? or all they all
Well, you literally are anti-Ridley and plenty have clearly taken ownership of the word, I don't see the problem here, are you new, or do you think you're clever by being meta and posting anime reaction faces? Nice logic, by the way.
I know well enough that he's going to be a cheap clone a la Lucina at most. Most likely a hazard or boss though.
>Well, you literally are anti-Ridley and plenty have clearly taken ownership of the word,
And there he goes again with that cute little buzzword.
*see comparison four*
Dark Samus but that's already an assist trophy so Rundus.
The shitstorm for decomfirmation won't be that big, honestly. Like two or three days of NEVER EVER, >YFW RIDLEYFAGS BTFO, etc.
If he got confirmed, we would have weeks of 2BIGOTS WREKT, THANK YOU BASED SAKURAI, >STAGE HAZARD, and much much more.
Nobody hates Ridleyfags because they want ridley in.
They're insufferable because they actively ignore all the valid arguments brought up regarding his inclusion and resort to hyperbole and logical leaps like the April direct in order to justify his inclusion.
They resort to the same old retorts
>He'll be downsized
>He's confirmed by this leak
>He's confirmed by lack of deconfirmation
These are the main points of their defense. They also like to force the notion of anti-ridleyfags as being cancer while they are the ones incapable of having a typical smash argument regarding inclusiong without using childlike wishful thinking and resorting to ad hominem, They are also the first to start filning shit while a non-ridleyfag would simply discuss how unlikely his inclusion would be, a ridleyfag would start off his posting by making personal attacks towards non-ridleyfags in particular they just want to live in a childish dream world. I know it's absolutely retarded as fuck and ridiculously hypocritical to make a post like this calling them out, but at least it's wasting a space on the board in an unecessary shitflinging contest. This is a shit thread. I just felt like this point that's been brought up countless times before needs to be addressed in this one thread.
tl;dr OP is a fag
EVERY FUCKING DAY
RIDLEY THIS RIDLEY THAT
AND THEN YOU HAVE A GUY JUST POSTING ANIME LAUGHS
HOW LONG DO WE HAVE TO KEEP HAVING THIS SHIT
THE SAME ARGUMENTS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN
WHY DO WE NEVER STOP
>If he got confirmed, we would have weeks of 2BIGOTS WREKT, THANK YOU BASED SAKURAI, >STAGE HAZARD, and much much more.
It'll be like wildfire across the internet. It'll be great.
Your logic is laughable. Their is opposition to any fanbase, trying to use this as a counter-argument is beyond me and as unnecessary as pointing out that the sky is blue. What's your point? Honestly? I hope the fact that their is opposition to Ridley and Furries/Bronies alike isn't your argument that they're one in the same. Unreal, could you be grasping harder?
> I have better shitposters to make sport out of. You're not even trying.
Except you 're not making sport of anything. You're flipping out and calling everyone a retard for disagreeing with you. I'm going to assume you're OP.
The only real arguments that people have against his inclusion are a shadow and an implication. Most people who want him in that I've seen admit he could just be a boss but feel for how Ridley is being handled unlike any other character that it's fishy and they hope it's leading to something more positive than a mere boss hazard.
I don't see why everyone is so eager to take Sakurai at face value over just a shadow and a comment about boss characters. I know what that implies, but Sakurai has stated things before that implied things that turned out to not be the case, even over playable characters.
I asked this in another thread before but I'll ask again: To those that find it delusional or stupid or whatever to hope for Ridley still at this point, how would you react? If your absolutely most wanted character above all else was shown as a shadow, never stated by name, never shown what they do, teased as anything else like an assist or hazard or whatever, the shadow wasn't huge but playable size, would you not hope that Sakurai was teasing and that they were actually playable?
I want Ridley, badly. At times it feels pathetic how important his inclusion means to me, for Metroid, the fans, and all this coyness leads to something more than just a boss. I know he could just be a boss but I'll hope he's not until Sakurai completely shows him off and what he does with no shadow.
I really fucking hope we know this month. I just want the truth. Even if I'm blown the fuck out.
I honestly don't give a shit either way, if he's in that's great. If he's just a boss hazard that's also fine.
My only worry is that if he does get confirmed, this place is going to become supreme shitposting general. The front page will be nothing but <insert I told you so here>.
Hell I wouldn't be surprised if /v/ changed from video games to /v/ - Ridley Confirmed.
I see this shit lasting for at least a week or so if he gets in, and it's going to be painful.
>and they ruin every roster thread.
no, that would be the ridleyfags
The only, ONLY reason I don't want him playable is for the assblasting of the ridleyfags. Honestly, the only thing I want more than him being left out is for him to be included, but be fucking terrible, and the only reason for this is because of the constant bitching and whining about Ridley and how Metroid needs more and blah blah fucking wah wah blah. See how that works? You shut the fuck up about it, and so will I.
You kidding me now? Zero Mission, Fusion, Super. In all of these games, he takes to the skies as soon as the battle begins and eviscerates you from above for the entirety of the fight. Hell, in Zero Mission he flies in from the fucking ceiling! The only other exception being NES Ridley, but that Ridley could barely even flutter let alone fly.
I think you're too autistic to take the hint from that anon that you're insufferable.
Skub is much too big to be in Smash Bros. Beyond that, it's proportions are all wrong, it's not even that popular, and it lacks sufficient character. You would have to be delusional and autistic and a retard to think Skub would be playable.
>>He's confirmed by lack of deconfirmation
Holy fucking this.
They act so fucking confident because he hasn't been explicitly deconfirmed as if that's as good as an outright confirmation.
Ridleyfags, if you just want Ridley in the game, that's cool. I don't mind, everyone has characters they want, even if they don't agree on them.
But for god sake, those of you who shit up every single smash thread with your list of reasons that "prove" he's in the game that are really just you reading too much into things because you desperately want him in, please stop. Just accept that his chances are not very high and if it does turn out that he's in the game then you can celebrate.
>this guy again
hi op, we're old friends, aren't we?
we're going to do this again?
And plenty of people think you, him, and other poster's alike are, hence this thread. What's your point? He's a fucking retard regardless because of his insipid 'argument'.
I feel that Ridley is important to the Metroid franchise, and I feel Sakurai feels that way too.
However, I also feel that some characters just can't be made into being playable.
What do you do when a series revolves around just one character, and the only other reoccurring character can't be made playable? It puts the series pretty much at a stand still when it comes to reps. You can attempt to make up for this by adding in as much fanservice to the series as possible that isn't playable characters, and that's what it feels like to me. Look at the number of Assist Trophies Metroid has. Metroid, Mother Brain, Dark Samus. It's quite a lot for just one series.
You're already getting it here. One poster refuses to see the possibility of him being a clone, and will call you an idiot. Even better though: Ridley confirmed
as a Charzard palette swap
Look at this place. Just fucking look at it. Japan Time 1.0 felt like bros mocking shitty updates and hyping up new ones. Now it's just bickering and bitching no matter what. From all threads, not just Smash. Don't get me wrong, I come here still so I'm not above anything, but wanting a character to not get in because of /v/ just being more of what it is nowadays isn't a valid or good reason at all.
There will always be that too big, that never ever character. If one happens to get in the character will just change. Move on to the next. Maybe they'll latch onto K. Rool, or Isaac, or something so obscure it really would never happen so they could at least be right time and time again.
I want Ridley to happen because it'd make a lot of people happy. I don't know if I feel his chances are good or not, but it'd make people flip their shit especially if he looked and played well. Seeing Mac and Pacman have me confident that he'd be just fine. It's all up to what Sakurai is doing and if they cared to take a crack at Ridley or not.
I was hoping the next direct would be worldwide, but it's just Hyrule Warriors. So if Ridley is in and going to be revealed it seems he won't be showing up for Metroids anniversary. Kind of a bummer. I was hoping they'd do at least something, but again it's just Zelda getting the spotlight as usual.
If only other Ridley fans were like you. See: Reasonable and Tolerable.
>I want Ridley, badly
I want King K Rool badly as well..I just know it's not going to happen. If I saw a shadow of him, I would assume he was a unrevealed boss.
what if Ridley gained some weight, kind of hunched up a bit and replaced his wings with something to round him off a bit?
Really I think Sakurai just feels that Ridley is better suited to the boss role. Otherwise he would've made him playable already because he definitely knows how much he's been requested.
The bottom line is that if Sakurai doesn't want to do it, it won't happen no matter what. There's no arguing around that.
Why on earth would Ridley and Charizard played similarly? only people with shallow knowledge of Ridley claim this? They even have very different anatomy. Like another anon ITT said, if anything, he'd play like Firebrand in umvc3.
Meta Ridley was one of the best bosses in subspace.
>That instant where he dunks the whole platform down and you die before you know what the fuck just happened
At least Ridley is going to be in the game, you faggots.
>tfw no K Rool
Christ, they're not even superficially similar. The anatomy is are vastly different. Just because they're conceptual dragons doesn't mean they warrant being similar in-game. Have you even seen a Ridley boss fight before? You literally couldn't come more off as ignorant in this particular argument.
>Trying to provoke a flame war between K Rool fans and Ridley fans
Ridleyfags sure have no boundaries in terms of starting shit.
It does if you're incapable of taking anything outside of face value. It's been 4 months, he's been a boss in Brawl, and they're going out of their way to not mention him. This couldn't be any more suspect.
I don't see how simply putting roster into ones most wanted list should be considered ruining a thread. That's just stupid. Wouldn't it be the ones who go out of their way to greentext and never ever the ones ruining things?
Wanting a character to not get in just so others don't get who they want is rather petty.
Maybe Sakurai wants to discuss Ridley on a later date to explain how the boss works, and he didn't want people to fight him earlier?
You're retarded if you can't understand why Pyrosphere wasn't in the E3 build.
Captain Falcon has a relatively original movest and it has NEVER made sense why Ganondorf is a clone of him. That doesn't justify the nonsensical assumption of Ridley being a Charizard clone.
Nice try though.
When I saw the shadow, my reaction was "fuck, he's out". But as the months have gone by without it being brought up again, and as more arguments have surfaced and possible clues have been analyzed, it is looking more and more credible all the time that he could actually be in.
>They haven't mentioned him in 4 months
Because they didn't really think that autists would be pissing themselves hoping for him. And the fact that they're busy making the game and showing off new stuff, and not stuff from brawl.
This right here.
While other characters get clear deconfirmations like Ashely, Takamaru and most recently Prince of Sable, for some reason Sakurai feels the need to show the shadow of one of a the most heavily requested characters instead of giving a straight answer.
>It's been 4 months
It was longer before we knew what the Yellow Devil was.
>he's been a boss in Brawl
Showing that Sakurai thinks he's better as a boss, because he definitely knew people wanted him. He even made two variants.
>they're going out of their way to not mention him
How are they? Not telling you the thing you want to know is not "Going out of their way"
>This couldn't be any more suspect.
You only think it's suspect because you're reading into things too much because you desperately want him to be playable.
Take a step back, anon, and think about it rationally. It'll hurt less when it turns out he's not playable.
>Charizard has a relatively original movest and it has NEVER made sense why Ridley is a clone of him. That doesn't justify the nonsensical assumption of Ganondorf being a Captain Falcon clone.
Now YOU'RE grasping.
You're retarded if you can't see the logic and reasoning from the other side of the fence on the whole issue. I admit that there's a possibility he CAN be a hazard, but you're a coy fool if you think they're being straightforward about any of this.
Yeah, like >>256340206 said,being a imposing boss works for him.
Playable boss mode would probably work in his favor.
I'd prefer that.
What logic? The only logic I ever see Ridleyfags offer is logic that can only be achieved if your starting point is "Ridley is playable" and working backwards to twist the rest of the evidence to fit that conclusion.
Ridley fans get no respect from the Smash community. They have rejected us endlessly. The Smash community has made a meme out of our favorite character, so how could we possibly consider ourselves part that community? They have never accepted us among them, and now we know why. We are more than Ridley fans. We are superior to them all. When Ridley is confirmed...Magnificent, glorious, supreme, eminent...Divine! We will become the closet thing there is to living gods. The Smash community is a disgusting, depraved, and evil species. It is our purpose to punish them all. We will purify Super Smash Bros of everything that is wrong with it. On the Day of Retribution when Ridley is confirmed, we will truly be powerful gods, punishing everyone we deem to be impure and depraved
>All Zelda characters
>Based on Twilight Princess except for Toon Link obviously
>All Star Fox characters
>Based on their latest game
>Pit is based on Uprising
>Based on Lost World
>Samus is based on her Other M design
>Stage boss Ridley is based on Other M
>"But it can be a different Ridley that's playable, he is a clone after all"
It goes against Sakurai wanting to keep designs updated unless they're purposely classic like Mega Man and Pac-Man.
>What about Villager
3 games out of 4 AC games made the characters short, it would've represented the franchise better. Also it's easier to keep him small looking for proportions sake.
>We didn't get to see him, just his shadow
What would've fucking changed if the camera was angled to show him? Suddenly he's still playable because Sakurai let the guys behind Cloverfield hold the camera?
The reason why people don't like Ridleyfans is because they say their character IS confirmed undeniably every time. You don't see a Wonder Red supporter making a long image on why he's in because of subtle nods. No Waluigi fan is making threads every day saying that he's in.
Why won't people just let him be a boss? He's cooler as a boss. You don't need to shrink him, he can have all the cool moves he needs with size not being a concern. It isn't that Ridley couldn't be big, but that he should STAY big.
>Ridley fans get no respect from the Smash community.
This is why everyone will still hate you even if Ridley DOES get confirmed.
Sakurai probably knows that Ridley fans are just a vocal minority and that's why he hasn't put him in so far.
>I mean kriby is canonically fucking 8 inches tall.
No he's not, Sakurai just said that despite the fact it directly contradicts the games themselves. If you think Kirby's canonically 8 inches tall just because Sakurai said so, then you must also believe Samus is submissive, short, weak, and freaks out whenever she sees Ridley canonically because that's what Sakamoto said, even though if you play the games you can see that's not true at all.
I want Ridley in just for the shitstorm, a deconfirmation would not be nearly as big of a deal, we already had that with Brawl.
>tfw Higgsfags only want him in because "SNAKE IS CUT" meme
>tfw Hunterfags don't fucking realize both Ridley and Weavel can get in totaling 4 Metroid reps.
and the stage is gonna be rising fucking lava because Pyrosphere has to do with alot of lava. plus it's fucking traditional for metroid stages to have this.
i hope you fags figure it out before Sakurai shows you.
If Ridley never gets in, it's not because Ridley fans are a vocal minority. It's because Sakurai doesn't give a fuck about Metroid. Zero Suit Samus only got into Brawl because T&A.