NINTENDO INDIE GUY DAN ADELMAN HAS LEFT NINTENDO OF AMERICA
>Dan Adelman, who is known for his work with independent developers at Nintendo of America, has announced that he is leaving the company. Adelman says he became frustrated because he couldn’t voice his own opinions and was continuously flagged down by Nintendo. Adelman says that he has decided to go indie.
>“I think people were kind of on pins and needles about anything untoward I might say. And every once in a while, I’d give an answer that people didn’t like, and some people would freak out, so they tried to scale things back. First they had me do interviews with someone from PR or marketing. Later they just decided that I shouldn’t be in the press at all anymore.”
Why is Nintendo so backwards? They're in financial trouble right now with the Wii U and the 3DS couldn't surpass the original DS yet they still kill new ideas...
They do it because they are in trouble, every shit indie on their platform is a shit indie too much. Now I am not saying Nintendo is right on this one, or that is it is shit but still they want to preserve as much quality as they can to bring their system to success.
Doesn't always work out.
Yep, here's two different ones.
>Literally the only games released since MK8 on the Wii U were indie games
>Literally the only good games released on the 3DS since Bravely Default were indie games
>"no one cares"
He was responsible for bringing Shovel Knight, Guacamelee! and other indie games to Nintendo platforms. He tried to bring more indie games to fill the gaps between Nintendo releases since 3rd Party is kill, but he was constantly shut down by corporate suits.
There's already 2 other threads, use the fucking catalog.
He's the guy that made Nintendo platforms more accessable to indie developers.
So this is potentially bad news for people who were planning to release a game on Nintendo systems.
>Expanding on the reasons behind his leaving, Adelman told Kotaku, "I had been strongly encouraged to stay off of Twitter - or at least say only things that were clearly safe - so after the region locking comment they just said I needed to stop completely. When people started complaining that I wasn't active on Twitter anymore, it was suggested that a PR person could just post in my name. I thought that was about the worst idea I'd ever heard, so I left it as is and let the silence speak for itself."
>a PR person could post in my name
Oh. Wow. So literally talking about Region Lock can get you a horrible position in the company.
He's showing respect to a fallen soldier.
>Guy talks shit about his own company while he's supposed to be doing indie PR
>Nintendo fires him for doing the opposite of his job
>Everyone says Nintendo is the bad guy
>he asks what the impact of this is and how it's important, as he is uninformed
Go ahead and boycott Nintendo. You obviously never touched anything they made in the past years
>guy tries to help the company through methods the company is too retarded to acknowledge
>guy decides to leave
>the company doesn't care
>money still going down the drain
That was the moment to listen to new people, but Nintendo failed at that. At this point, it'll be deserved if they end up getting out of the console race.
>Microsoft employee criticizes consumers on twitter
>/v/ has a good laugh
>Nintendo employee criticizes a companies policies
>gets told not to
>/v/ acts like their waifu was just shot in the face
Read the fucking thread. He was the middle-man between indie developers and Nintendo. He was the one trying to bring indie games to Nintendo systems. He was shut down when he tried to bring Binding of Isaac to the 3DS because Nintendo said the religious content was bad. He was shut down when he tried to bring Super Meat Boy, he was shut down when he tried to bring FEZ to the system, he was shut down when trying to bring MANY other games and he made a statement saying Region Locking was bad for the company.
>im a retard
He had been there for 9 years already. He hasnt done much for nintendo aside from a few indie games that would be there anyways.
He worked for nintendo, helped them get set up a little bit on the indie dev scene and then brought up how he disagreed with how they did things.
He has no clue how big business works, all he knew is that he wanted all the indie games on wii u.
Thats not a good philosophy because youll end up filled with shovelware which is the worst for digital distribution.
He also doesnt like region lock so whatever. His opinion was probably shit anyways.
>Dan Adelman was the one and only person at Nintendo that dealt with indie developers
>His departure means that he will not replaced and there will never be an indie game on Nintendo systems again
This is what NeoFAGGOTS believe.
Nintendo has a drought of games at the moment. Between Nintendo releases, there's a gap full of NOTHING for gamers. This month, on the US, there's literally nothing being released for the Wii U. After Bayonetta 2, it'll be another two months of nothing until Smash Bros U.
The guy tried to bring the "new concept" (at least to Nintendo) of indie games, you know, cheap and made by small studios, to Nintendo systems, but was shut down by corporate suits.
He brought Trine 2, Guacamelee, Shovel Knight and many other games to the Wii U / 3DS. I can't even imagine how bad the Wii U library would be without those three titles, to be honest.
You just explained it yourself.
He acknowledged a shortcoming, letting people know Nintendo has heard their complaints, and was treated like an ass for it.
The other guy was treating customers poorly.
Fish didn't want it on the PS3 or PC as well and look where it ended up.
Because Nintendo wouldn't listen to him. Indie games for the Wii were literally an impossible concept for the company. Wii U and 3DS actually saw some indie games.
Don't be dense. I'm not saying indie games are system sellers. Like I said, they HELP the catalog and fill the gaps between AAA releases. Don't tell me you're ok with having absolutely nothing to play between Nintendo releases.
He already knew he wasnt a good PR man.
He decided to not have a public appearance for a long time simply because he cant think before he types.
Nintendo got fed up with their employee not representing them properly and there was a mutual decision that he was no longer the best person for nintendos needs and has moved on to other projects.
tl;dr ITS FUCKING NOTHING
They're games, this is the guy who single handedly brought these games to the console and also suffered from Nintendo being ass backwards and shutting down possible games like Fez, Super Meat Boy and Binding of Isaac. I know Nintendo likes to believe they shit rainbows, but their rehashes are not enough to sustain a console.
This is what Nintendo does to indie developers.
>There were people whose job it was to look up addresses in Google maps to see if the business address was a home or an office building. And if it looked a little residential, they'd ask for photos. There would be e-mail threads with literally a few dozen back and forth exchanges about whether the couch in someone's office was really used for business purposes or did someone really live there? That policy, thankfully, is gone.
Chie is a fucking slut. Just imagine the amount of sausage she had between those lips. She was probably the town bike before you came around and she was instantly lusting after your salami next.
Her phonenumber is probably all over public toilets with the annotation that she's willing to do anything for a beefbowl.
And remember those 3 guys from her S rank? As soon as you enter the train to go back home those guys probably rape her and NTR the shit out of her, turning her into a sexslave so they don't have to pay for the meat to take turns on her
A small time indie dude whos job was nothing more than looking the web over for cool indies to bring to nintendo is not hard.
The fact he barely did that AND managed to fuck up PR is hilarious.
>/v/ loves to defend the "little guy"
Oh, it definitely means someone else will take his job. And be a complete Yes Man to the company and never bring decent indie games or at least a good amount of them. It'll be someone that will say on Twitter every 6 months when a shitty japanese indie game comes over "Hey guys! This is another amazing product only us at Nintendo could bring over! Please understand we need you to buy it even though it's shit!"
They'll replace him with some shit employee who does nothing but sucks Nintendo's dick and he won't be able to bring over anything of note.
Enjoy your no games, Nintendo fan.
Lets be clear here, you're fucking retarded if you think the Shit U can run No Man's Sky.
>A small time indie dude whos job was nothing more than looking the web over for cool indies to bring to nintendo is not hard.
Man, you're going to be so disappointed when the few Indie games Nintendo was getting dry the fuck up now that this guy is gone. They're still lightyears behind Sony and Microsoft on this front as it is, and they'll replace Dan with some yes man.
>would be allowed to have their own Twitter accounts.
Did you read the article? It probably isn't even them posting.
Stop spinning the story. The guy "barely did that" because no one would fucking let him bring more games. He also "managed to fuck up PR" because he was pro-consumer.
What a shitty employee, right, Mr. Monopoly?
I guess 2 threads weren't enough. Eagerly awaiting for the 4th.
So much for Nintendogaf. Sure this place is clearly biased, no hate threads against nintendo here, nuh uh.
I despise region locking with all myself but this is blowing out of proportions. At this point it's just an easy way to stir up shit.
So next Nintendo is going to fire Iwata, Miyamoto is going to either end up into forced retirement or dead, and then they'll slowly just sink into the bog of failed companies.
>guy was acting like an unprofessional asshole, shit talking Nintendo whilst working for them
>everyone is surprised when he gets fired
Gee, Sonyponies sure are mad today
I love how people are saying this guy fucked over PR or screwed Nintendo over when half this thread hasn't even heard of him until now. I also like how Nintendo hasn't been trying to get indie titles so it's this guy's fault he's not winning the uphill battle. He's worked at Nintendo for nine years and got a few titles out. While it's quicker and easier to blame him, is there a possibility that Nintendo's refusal against indies in the past is what made it harder to get more indie games in the first place? It's baffling that they'll put complete bullshit on their systems but indies that make decent sales on every other system is apparently not good enough for a company struggling to fill its library.
More non linear. Wall melding mechanic was implemented well. The depth (literal, not metaphorical) the dungeons had looked fantastic.
Honestly I was really impressed with Nintendo trying to move back towards LoZ 1's non linearity in any amount.
Freedom of speech doesn't work the way you think it does. All it means is the government can't shut you down for speaking out against them. That's it. That's all "freedom of speech" does for anyone. Your boss can still tell you that you can't talk about cake on Twitter if he wants, and if you do, boom, roasted.
>When people started complaining that I wasn't active on Twitter anymore, it was suggested that a PR person could just post in my name
Probably not actually the real people posting. You see, Nintendo is afraid of social media.
It's stupid that he left because of some innocent comment, but it's not like
are all going to disappear now that he left
He barely did his job because he doesnt fucking now how to find good indie games for nintendos console.
>hurr just get what dah ps4 has dats all we need
No. Fucking hell no.
You dont know consumers very well.
Why are people surprised when you talk shit about a company you work for you get fired. Microsoft does it this as well. The only company who hasn't done this yet is Sony and the only real PR they have is Yoshida firing him would probably cause a backlash. Since almost everyone likes him.
No one was forcing you to buy "indie shit". It was literally just more options for the consumer. When he said Region Lock was bad in a Twitter reply to a Nintendo fan who approached him, he was being pro-consumer.
>LOLOLOL ENJOY UR NO INDIES NINTENYEAROLDS
Obvious Sony pony thread. Only they think having indies on consoles means shit when you can play 99.99% of indie games worth a shit on a toaster PC.
No, he shit talked Nintendo. He deserves what he got. Nintendo are the only ones who care 100% about the costumers. Sure, the region locking is not for everyone but in the end they did it 100 FUCKING PERCENT for the customers, even if Nintendo themselves lose money with it.
Region locking is a positive thing, but you baby sonyponies wouldn't realize that as you are to blind to see the truth.
>Why are people surprised when you talk shit about a company you work for you get fired
HE FUCKING SAID REGION LOCKING IS BAD. WHICH IT IS
Jesus, why are Nintendo fans DEFENDING Nintendo for this shit?
>fire a guy who handles PR between indies and Nintendo
>HURR DURR NINTENDO IS KILLING NEW IDEAS
The guy they fired isn't an indie dev, or anything dev related. He's just a PR guy.
If a PR guy does or says anything remotely negative in regards to the company he's contracted to PR for, he's fired. It's that easy.
And believe it or not, PR guys are really fucking easy to replace.
>Shit I don't have anything productive to say
>LE DRONE MAY MAY NINTENDOGAF
>methods the company is too retarded to acknowledge
Just because something seems good from the perspective of the customer doesn't mean that it has no negative side, or that the company is "too stupid" to acknowledge it.
There's a reason behind every "bad" decision every company makes.
He essentially did get fired. Haven't you ever heard of an employer driving you out so you quit instead of them just flat out firing you? It's the same thing here, they took his twitter privileges away and then suggested some random dude comment on it in his place to placate his fans. They deliberately drove him out so he quit instead of Nintendo flat out firing him for this so they look better.
>Adelman: I know there are going to be a bunch of forum comments and editorials saying, "OMG Nintendo is doomed!" but the truth is that Nintendo's indie program is in good hands. It was never really just me. There is a large group of people working on helping developers through the process and they're going to continue doing that. My understanding is that they are planning on back-filling my role. Before leaving, I put together a list of people I thought would be good candidates for the job and would be happy to provide any input they want. Having the right person in that role will be critical for the long-term health of the business, and I'm sure they're going to get someone great.
Everyone ignore this, Nintendo is doomed.
Region lock helps consumers.
Sorry bud but I'm not about to argue for or against it. He said something contradictory to the company and he decided to stay quiet publicly after it so he wouldnt fuck up again.
Now he decided to leave of his own accord and its the worst thing nintendo has ever done.
That would make sense on PS4 if it had AAA titles
How often did that
That was pretty cool, but the rest of the dungeon was pretty shit
>let's make it so you have to traverse narrow block paths with ice physics
>it's hard so it's good game design!!
worse than Dark Souls fans
>Fucked by region lock
Not in the fucking slightest
There's like 1-2 games on 3DS worth owning that never came to US from Japan.
Unless you're a DQ fan in which case you're already well versed in the art of being shat on
Why the fuck would you want to work at Nintendo anyways? If I worked in the industry I would never do it, it'd be like I went back in a time machine 50 years with all of Nintendo's assbackwards anti-consumer anti-developer policies.
>heh, who needs third party anyway?
>huh, who needs sales anyway?
>uh, who needs indies anyway..?
So the man single handedly got rid of all quality control?
>Nintendo has been really supportive of this move. I think everyone there has known for a while that my passion has always really been about helping the indie community develop and thrive, so even though everyone was really surprised when I gave my 2-week notice, they all understood and wished me the best. I couldn't have asked for a better sendoff.
Once again /v/ doesnt know ANYTHING about the threads material
HE QUIT FOR FUCKS SAKE
>Less indies on the 3DS
How is that a bad thing? Ever since the Vita got a dedicated indie section, all Sony of Burgerland does is get more and more indie ports instead of trying to get 3rd party localisations.
Nintendo clearly pushed him out, though. Writing is on the wall. Sure they didn't shit in his cornflakes on the way out, but Nintendo's assbackwards policies are what forced a good employee out.
Not many as far as I know. They tend to release late of course. I always did wonder why NA and EU have zero trouble releasing games in Japan if there is even a tiny bit of interest when we have to beg the nips to let us play there games.
PS2 numbers are extremely sketchy at best. While it did sold a shit ton, for many, many years Sony has combined the sales of the PS2 and PS3 together making it quite hard to have an actual solid number. They also added PS4 to the recently.
At least Nintendo has something remotely detailed like this:
>white english person leaves nintendo
and literally nothing of value was lost. nintendo of america doesn't make fucking video games. the japs who don't even speak our language do.
although i do agree nintendo has been backwards as fuck since yamauchi died and since wii sports/wii fit sales has absolutely ruined nintendo and showed them that games they put 0 effort in can sell 100 million copies if they are super duper casual (ie quality of life coming out)
>Now I am not saying Nintendo is right on this one
That's exactly what you are implying though. You are discrediting the guy and sucking Nintendo's lazy lepper dick as usual.
Nothing new, Nintendrones gonna drone and drink Iwata's semen.
>Hey, you'll be censored for an year and if you want to talk to fans on Twitter, we'll have to put a PR guy to talk in your place, ok?
>Oh, by the way, all these projects you wanna bring over? They're not coming. Why? Because Nintendo. Please understand we don't like money.
What a great place to work! I don't know why he wanted to leave...
He fought to make Nintendo's console actually attractive to Indie developers. He essentially did damage control with Nintendo after they fucked everything up with Indies on the Wii.
Nintendo needs these indie devs, considering they do not get any third party titles. If they lose Indie support then on the Wii U there will be literally NOTHING in between Nintendo's own releases. If we're getting to this point you have to question why Nintendo is making home consoles at all.
Still waiting for someone to show what good indie games he brought to Nintendo systems.
Shovel Knight would have made it regardless of his efforts as WayForward people have been close to Nintendo for many years.
>gets his ass fired because of bad PR
>first thing he does afterwards is make more bad PR, complete with sarcastic tweet and 'innocent victim' interview
Have fun never getting hired by a video game company ever again.
>Super Mario Sunshine
and Uncharted 2 is a rehash
this is the same mentality that victimized feminists say when they claim to be "literally raped" by something that didn't even involve physical contact. Gorilla Hernandez has been raped 7 times.
>so after the region locking comment they just said I needed to stop completely. When people started complaining that I wasn't active on Twitter anymore, it was suggested that a PR person could just post in my name.
>B-BUT MUH NINTENDO ARE THE GOOD GUYS!
Disgusting, slit eyed jews. Even worse than Sony.
Shovel Knight, Guacamelee, Mighty Switch Force the list goes on.
Enjoy not getting those games anymore.
They're games. If the Wii U is literally waiting months in between single releases and is only getting that game for that month then why the FUCK is Nintendo still making home consoles? At this point Nintendo consoles are a prison for Nintendo games.
>He also doesnt like region lock so whatever. His opinion was probably shit anyways.
That's it, I'm out.
I can handle most things but Nintendogaf has degraded to the point where disliking a severe anticonsumer policy is now a bad thing. Fuck you guys.
>there are people on /v/ right now defending this shit
That't not even Neogaf-tier droning, this is some 2011 bioware forum shit.
You guys are so fucking stupid.
>hurr without him indies would NEVER EVER be on nintendo
"Hey, I'd love to take credit for every successful indie game on our system, but that would be really unfair to the developers. Yacht Club Games were the ones putting in 100-hour work weeks for months on Shovel Knight. For me to jump in and give myself credit for their success would be totally disingenuous. I gave some small suggestions here and there about their release timing, I helped them out by plugging them into a few marketing initiatives"
He does nothing but marketing.
>/v/ actually defending a marketer
The ONLY thing he did right was open nintendos system up a little more. Make it easier to deploy indie games on.
>WF not making another eShop game because someone got fired
are you for real
Asian here, Sony region lock forces us to play $75 for a $40 game on PSN. Nintendo allows us to pay $45 for a $40 game on the eShop.
Why do you think the Vita struggles, even here? Also, Sony of Asia are run by braindead retards that don't know which Asian country speaks which language.
Actually, other video game companies fire people over completely harmless jokes. Pic related.
I don't buy indies on home consoles but I do buy some on handhelds, some of them are good timesinks to play on the go.
Nintendo must've been doing something wrong because the Wii U gets more indie games than the 3ds. This is not how it should work.
>there are people defending and downplaying this
holy fucking shit
>Nintendo chases away third party games
>With this, Nintendo chases away indie developers
"We only need Nintendo games on our platform. There's nothing wrong with waiting months on end to get a new game for our home console that just ends up being a shitty rehash anyways".
Good on ya, Nintendo.
I'm a PC+Nintendo friend, and I hate Nintendo's online policies.
The eshop is a fucking joke, and they have no idea what they're doing.
The fact that the binding of isaac was rejected pretty much sums up why I can't stand Nintendo's eshop policies. Like the game or not, denying it because it could be "offensive" is backwards, childish, and fucking stupid.
Why even care?
Wii U is dead in the water anyway and the 3DS a Pokemon/MonHun machine.
I'm sure Shovel knight sold like shit on Wii U and 3DS and the Steam sales trumped it easily. Way Forward does not need Nintendo. To be honest Nintendo should be lucky they get indie games at all, and with this guy gone they probably won't.
>I'm sure Shovel knight sold like shit on Wii U
Are you sure about that?
>Wozniak: Across all platforms it's exceeding expectations.
>b-b-b-b-b-but he's just saying that!!!! Wii U sales are shit!!!!!
>Nintendo always have an huge indie hyperlink on Wii U eshop page every fucking week
>Nintendo features indie games several times on their Treehouse stream even less hyped ones like "Affordable Space Adventures"
>Nintendo features Shovel Knight on their stream and does a challenge with it even though it's not one of their games
>Whenever Nintendo shows a reel of eshop games indie games are heavily feature while Nintendo games are feature very briefly
>Nintendo uploads all the indie game trailers on their own youtube page
B-b-b-b-b-but Nintendo hates dah indie and without Adelman, nintendo will never have them again.
>Wozniak: Across all platforms it's exceeding expectations.
Yup, and the Wii U's expectations were low as shit.
Mark my words, the Steam version at LEAST quadrupled Wii U sales of the game. You see, people outside of Nintendo actually appreciate good Indie titles. Threads like this proves that Nintendo fans do not.
>wahh region lock
Shut up /v/ If you wanted to play jap games youd get a jap console.
Ever wonder why you HAVE to import all you shit weeb games for your ps3/4/vita?
Region lock hurts localization.
that's Ruggarell and Tumblr's job
Sony itself said around 155 mil consoles were shipped. In fact PS2 consoles are still being manufactured in third world countries, shit's crazy. That's why the last report still included PS2 numbers.
Nigga I own a Wii U myself and it's pretty much dead.
>b-but muh SONYGGER ;_;
>the Steam version at LEAST quadrupled Wii U sales of the game
It doesn't need to be said, it's obvious that it was.
Nintendo fans only buy Nintendo games, this is a stone cold fact at this point. The expectations for the Wii U version of the game were obviously miniscule.
>Adelman: I know there are going to be a bunch of forum comments and editorials saying, "OMG Nintendo is doomed!" but the truth is that Nintendo's indie program is in good hands. It was never really just me. There is a large group of people working on helping developers through the process and they're going to continue doing that. My understanding is that they are planning on back-filling my role. Before leaving, I put together a list of people I thought would be good candidates for the job and would be happy to provide any input they want.
>hates region lock
>wants more indies
>predicted the nintendoomed
He knows the internet, thats for sure.
WHO THE FUCK IS THIS GUY AND WHY THE SHITPOSTERS IN THE THREAD CLAIMING WE'RE DEFENDING PRETENTIOUS INDIE SHIT?
>Nintendo tells third party developers to fuck off
>Nintendo tells indie developers to fuck off with this news.
Nintendo is killing themselves, and to anyone with taste instead of being sad they're laughing their asses off.
>No one was forcing you to buy "indie shit"
No, but it stains the fucking shop with fucking garbage. Christ it's almost impossible to not get eye cancer looking through steams shop.
>Nintendo fans only buy Nintendo games
If that were the case we would have a fuckton of great IPs. But Nintendofans are kinda autistic and buy only stuff with muh merio on the cover.
>Hitler hated jews
>America liked jews
>America alive and kicking
>Activision didn’t expect much from Wii U sales of Black Ops 2, but they sure didn’t expect it to be that abysmal. Activision gave Wii U owners the best version of Blops 2 with Off TV features, and Nintendo fans didn’t support it. It’s easy for Nintendo fans to trash publishers for not giving them ports, but publishers have wisened up. They realize Nintendo fans are all talk. Nintendo fans are vocal with their mouths, but when it’s time to open their wallets, they’ll spend that $60 on New Super Mario Bros instead.
Hall’s source went on to voice his opinion that developers at D.I.C.E. remain unimpressed by the Wii U, echoing a sentiment similar to another report from D.I.C.E. that surfaced a few weeks ago.
>There’s just no enthusiasm for it. The only reason publishers are still going to bring games to Wii U is because they don’t want to damage their relationship with Nintendo.
>Nintendoomsayers are also racists
No surprise here.
>needles about anything untoward I might say. And every once in a while, I’d give an answer that people didn’t like, and some people would freak out, so they tried to scale things back. First they had me do interviews with someone from PR or marketing. Later they just decided that I shouldn’t be in the press at all anymore.”
>Why is Nintendo so backwards? They're in financial trouble right now with the Wii U and the 3DS couldn't surpass the original DS yet they still kill new ideas...
Nintendo is too mainstream for Hipster Fish
>guy quits his job, voices his opinion on why he decided to leave his position
>currently still working with Nintendo to find a suitable replacement
>somehow this implies that the company and the guy are on bad terms
if nintendo hated the guy they wouldn't let him help find a replacement
if the guy hated nintendo he wouldn't be willing to help them find a replacement
Sonytumblronies are still mad at Jihad Jon's comment on PS4. Now they are trying to find a bad news about Ninty and Microsoft so they can start shitting back again
truly a bunch of globally hated
The Vita gets a ton of localizations despite the region lock.
It's not all about import jap shit. Ask all those yuros how did they enjoy RF4 on their yuro 3ds.
Region lock is a cancer and needs to go.
>Nintendo is doing everything in their power to alienate the consumers
You must admit they are doing a great job with that. Not as great as Microsoft with E3 2013 but still pretty decent.
This shit doesn't make sense to me, the Dynasty Warriors of games has it, why the fuck would Nintendo remove it?
I'd suggest that yeah, you sell your Wii U. Thing is shit and Nintendo doesn't deserve anyone's business.
>not realizing Zionists and NWO only hide behind Jewry to trick the unwashed masses
>work for a business
>shittalk business while working for business
>get told not to shittalk business while working for business
How is this news?
For me it's like the N64 days: I play on PC.
But anon. The PS2 had more online features than the Wii U and this isn't even hyperbole.
>have to by a peripheral just to go online
>no digital shop
>no online community to see whats new and popular
They share the fact that so few games actually support it
And so does Monster hunter 3U.
Is there some joke I'm not getting here.
>b-but Virtual Boy!
>N-nintendo should drop the assets and move to PC and iOS
>Z-Zelda on PS4 is a good thing
>forgetting WiiU is Gamecube 2.0
your wet dream ain't gonna happen any day faggot.
Wait a minute, I realized that Nintendo also made the most-sold online playable console game this gen.
Aside from Shovel Knight, Nintendo was making their best indie games first/second party anyway. Pushmo, Crashmo, Chibi Robo Photo Finder, Steel Diver Sub Wars, and NES Remix 1+2 were like the only ones worth buying.
Nintendo does hate online.
Literally the only reason Mario Kart and Smash has it is because even they can't get away with those particular games not having it.
My post was half a joke but I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo is pissed that Bayonetta 2 has online co-op.
>Dynasty Warriors has online co-op
>Suddenly, Hyrule Warriors does not.
You're a retard if you think this wasn't a Nintendo decision.
Is the online actually bad like you keep on being disconnected, slow download times, no responsive eshop, lag, bad matchmaking, long wait times, etc or is just the game you want to have online don't have online shoehorn into them? I mean I have had no problem with my Wii U when I use it online. I only been disconnected off Mario Kart 8 once and thats was only on the launch date.
Outside of gaming, my Wii U has been a far better media center than PS3 ever was. Plex works extremely well with the system.
>I can't even imagine how bad the Wii U library would be without those three titles, to be honest
Haha holy shit. Both Guacamelee and SK are so fucking awful the Wii U is already better off with Super Metroid and Super Mario World. Fucking hipster faggots.
From his site:
>"I’m often viewed as the main person behind Nintendo’s indie strategy and that without me, there would be no indie push by Nintendo. Although that may have been the case in the early days, in recent years the business has grown, and more and more groups have been established to take up the mantle. While my core team of awesome folks (shout out to Scott, Luke, and Shannon!) and I did everything from handle the operations to the marketing to reaching out to new developers, in the last few years whole new teams of people responsible for each of those areas have been formed. People at Nintendo don’t need to be reminded that indie games are important. They play them every day. In fact, one of the reasons I decided to leave was that there were fewer and fewer new battles to wage. Everyone was getting on the same page and starting to work together like a well-oiled machine. What fun is getting into an argument if the other person already agrees with you?"
It's over, Nintendo is doomed.
Actually, the Us didn't much care for Jews during the second world war. The writing was on the wall about the holocaust but the US made no overtures of collecting refugees. It probably would have taken much longer for the US to enter the war had it not been for the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.
Rather, support for Jews came later after the war and can be pointed at the CIA (and we might be able to point the brunt of the effort at Angleton) who worked to get the US on Israel's side to develop a conservative foothold in the middle East using "God's Chosen People" the Jews.
Either that or you can blame the popularity of musicals and movies but that's not really the point here.
>no list of games owned
>no screencap of WiiU and PC/another console along with the games
sure you're pretty believable
Playing online also works like a charm on my Wii U.
Maybe you should find out how to set up your internet connection properly.
>Job is not to improve devkits
>But to call people, so he can send over devkits
Uh..how about the fact that Zelda is their IP?
Yes, it is not being developed by Nintendo. But when the same game without Zelda characters has online co-op but suddenly, when they make a game with characters created by Nintendo it does not then you're a retard if you think that decision was not something made by Nintendo. What possible reason would there be for it to be removed otherwise? Nintendo just doesn't want Hyrule Warriors to have online co-op.
It's more than likely a whole lot of nothing.
>why do people defend nintendo with their lives?
To me, it looks more like people just refuse the indoctrination to hate Nintendo.
Can they not push both?
Do they not realize that online is EXTREMELY important to people and that consistently ignoring it in favor of local is doing nothing but pissing people off and causing them to lose money? Is Nintendo really this retarded?
they're scared of online which, with the miiverse, seems contradictory. But it's telling how their first major online game came a year and a half after the console's fucking launch.
>Nintendo still is the greatest of all video game companies.
>People don't want Twitch, they don't like watching people play video games
>People don't want online multiplayer
Why must Nintendo say these laughably incorrect statements instead of just telling the truth? Please don't tell me what I want, Nintendo. It's the main reason why I DON'T want any of your products and take my business elsewhere.
If you can just hop online and play a game instead of taking the time and effort to go to their place, what would you rather do?
People call Nintendo just another company, the fact is these guys actually care. They were kids once, they are gamers themselves and they try to influence the younger generation as well.
I mean, look at their Quality of Life shit. You think that's "just business"?
No, they actually care and they want kids to play together, not online
Basically the man wanted to do something new, but Nintendo became furious and told him we will never change and continue shelling out repetitive games that are nearly the same every year, since they know their drones will buy it.
Why are you guys assuming Nintendo is going to naturally have some strong indie initiative?
They never did in the past, and the person responsible for the changes and openness that was coming to Nintendo is, quite literally, solely this person.
>Nintendo still is the greatest of all video game companies.
>If you can just hop online and play a game instead of taking the time and effort to go to their place, what would you rather do?
If my buddy is at my place or it's a particular game where playing the game in person would be better, we'll do it. There doesn't need to be a choice here. Nintendo needs to realize that people have friends that are great distances from each other. Nintendo's policy is basically "fuck those people, just go to his house", well Nintendo, he lives halfway across the fucking country. I'd like to play a Nintendo game with him but you will not let me.
I don't even use Twitch that often, but saying that no one wants it is laughably incorrect. Nintendo should just tell the truth and either say the Wii U can't handle it or they just personally do not want it. People CLEARLY want Twitch and they CLEARLY want online multiplayer, Nintendo is fucking stupid trying to tell people what they want.
You need peripherals to play on every console except wii u.
Only certain games require a TV anymore.
Pausing and being forced to use a tv are so last gen its a fucking joke. Wii U is the only console thats even trying to be next gen. Everything else is just last gen with almost PC graffix
>having to prove anything to the cult-like nintenyearolds who only play nintendo kids games and have nothing to compare them to
I'd rather debate Jehovah's witness instead.
>a indie guy left the sinking ship that is WiiDoomed and Shittendo
good, now all they have to do is fire Iwata, drop the ShiitU, go third-party, make their games on Sony console, iOS phones, and PC platforms, and make the games cater to the LGBT cinecasual flappy run audience.
there, i fucking saved Ninty, you fucking shits!
>the person responsible for the changes and openness that was coming to Nintendo is, quite literally, solely this person.
And he has passed the baton on to somebody else who he trusts.
Did you even read what he wrote?
>somebody complains about region lock to him
>"Yeah, it can be rough, but you just deal with it however you can like buying a console for each of the regions you want."
So wait. He got in trouble for practically encouraging the purchase of two consoles? For fuck's sake Nintendo, get your shit together.
>Nintendo's policy is basically "fuck those people, just go to his house", well Nintendo, he lives halfway across the fucking country. I'd like to play a Nintendo game with him but you will not let me.
I hope you realize that people above the age of 12 aren't exactly their target audience.
They're pushing for local multiplayer fun for kids.
I get that it's frustrating to us, but I commend them for it, because honestly, with online being a massive feature, I feel disconnected from my friends more than ever before
>but saying that no one wants it is laughably incorrect
No one worth catering for wants it. It's like all those faggot gaming magazines and shit that mention brain training and cooking bullshit when they are the LEAST SHIT TO DO WITH GAMES and nobody worth a fuck, or worth giving a fuck about cares.
Not to mention that by bloating something with useless shit is a bad thing.
They said they thought gameplay being streamed by itself without any commentary or anything extra is boring, which it is.
AGDQ is exciting and fun, some smuck going through Super Mario World through an emulator or playing Killzone silently is not. Funny enough I watched all of SGDQ through my Wii U.
Why is it so hard for you manchildren to admit who you truly are?
>>I hope you realize that people above the age of 12 aren't exactly their target audience.
I hope you realize that only catering to one audience and alienating any other ones is stupid and Nintendo is stupid for doing it. There's literally nothing wrong with online multiplayer, they can push both, they can HAVE both. There's no need to choose here.
The droning in this post is unbelievable. A large contingency of people want online multiplayer and Twitch on Wii U.
a virtual console with a limited selection (worse than the Wii's) without support for n64 games (or onwards) on the Wii U
you have to rebuy the same virtual console game for seperate platforms.
I'll admit they're getting better with doing sales but little flexibility on pricing.
I'd just like a reliable way to track digital purchases.
mainly they're fumbling all online features.
While they have a good track record with a solidly BUILT console, the wii u could have been so much more they hadn't made the focus on silently running/low energy consumption and with an expensive controller that is frankly under-used. I would always forget there was a map on it during MK8
The entire point of the article is when he tried to bring games that weren't Mr Sunshine Cat they told him to fuck off. I know this place is full of retards but this is getting ridiculous.
>a virtual console with a limited selection (worse than the Wii's) without support for n64 games (or onwards) on the Wii U
Everyone forgets the wii had its ENTIRE LIFE ti get that VC built up. They had to tear it all down and rebuild it for the wii U. No one cares about them doing it properly though it jsut needs to be done now.
Instant gratification is the cancer.
No its not.
The article is about how he enjoyed his time and they had disagreements but overall he felt he helped them greatly.
Its more about how hes excited to get even deeper into the indie scene, going indie himself, and what he hopes to do in the future.
The thing he did wrong was he has no idea what a public image is.
but thats the thing, it SHOULDN'T be difficult to cram those games onto the Wii U.
it should just be a shell they dump the roms into and it plays, but instead it seems they rebuild the entire emulation system separately for each game they put on the service.
I'm not looking for instant gratification I'm looking for ANY gratification.
could you think of any lineage of consoles with more classic games that you'd like to play? no, and they're still content to put out one or MAYBE two games a week on it.
>tfw Nintendo idort
>someone claims i only play Nintendo games
>mention i have a Steam account to play some PC games
>"hurr duur, stop latching on PC you desperate manchild!" "plus peecee doesn't count idort!"
>mention that i play Devil May Cry 3 and God Hand on PCSX2 (PS2 emu)
>"hurr duur, stop latching on Sony you desperate manchild!"
>mention that i play Halo and Ninja Gaiden on my Xbox OG
>"hurr duur, stop latching on M$ you desperate manchild!"
>mention that i play Soul Calibar and Power Stone on my DC emulator
>"hurr duur, stop latching on Sega you desperate manchild!"
>"you're a lying nintendrone and you should fuck off of /v/ you nintendicksucker!"
what the fuck am i supposed to prove?
>it should just be a shell they dump the roms into and it plays
Fuck you dude.
I fucking HATE emulators for this reason. You just pretend you can make one program to run every game. IT DOESNT FUCKING WORK
Each game uses specific hacks to use the hardware in different ways so the emulator needs to compensate. You either end up with a massive resource hog trying to get 100% accuracy OR you use hacks like 90% of emulators out.
Hacks do not cut it. Hacks are garbage and the plebs answer to solving a problem.
Nintendos method of having an emulator specifically for that game is the best option.
The thing is they didnt even have a good console until this year. It was slow as fuck, had shit online, no games, etc...
They focused on making the console usable first and that is more important. VC comes second to current gen problems
All they need is a bigger team getting the shit over and it could be fixed though. That would be wasting resources though
I'm imagine more the problems comes from license agreements and what not. Even it's a nintendo produced game, there is probably laundry list of companies involved that they got to get okays on. This is even more with third party companies, it seems they are lot less willing to put their old games on the Wii U than they did on the Wii. Really only Konami and Capcom is support the Wii U VC at the moment in NA.
It's shame that the Wii U VC won't be as varied as the Wii's, Sega recently said they had no plans to Genesis VC on the Wii U. But at least there is some hope for non-Nintendo VC games on the Wii U, Japan got MSX and PC-engine games.
Still I am glad that they starting to put more old games that weren't on the Wii VC like Earthbound and ufouria the saga.
top kek and people still think nintendo is the "savior of gaming" when they do retarded shit like this
good job at them scaring away even more third party devs, the WIIU and 3DS can survive off first party titles like mario and zelda just like sega's consoles survived off their first party titles too
>coming to a NintenDOOMED thread
>thinking the master race meme affiliate with anything including PC
This is closest equivalent to Sony losing key Naughty Dog and Santa Monica people regarding Nintendo the last year or so. It's basically nothing and people are grasping at straws.
>being this retarded
I can play GC games on my PC with no problems for free with an emulator. I can even do wii games because the wiimote is bluetooth. Assuming I can get a tablet working as a controller, I could probably play wiiu games without much hassle either.
No you cant.
You need custom settings or revisions to play 80% of the games.
You cant play zelda, or mario properly on wii. Those are BIG titles. Youd think it would have better support.
Also GC emulation is shit
>It's basically nothing and people are grasping at straws.
except that it means one less third party dev, which is something that nintendo is sorely lacking right now. This would not be an issue if Nintendo wasn't backwards and made their system so difficult to develop for
>I can play GC games on my PC with no problems
Shit taste detected. Little errors make things fucking unplayable for me, but I guess that wouldn't matter to such a faggot as yourself.
>meanwhile last gen...
>Microsoft: Sony is too expensive! Spend that money on a cheaper Xbox 360, and then get a Wii they are fun!
>Sony: NOnonono! The PS4 is the perfect compliment for the Wii!
>Nintendo: Boys, boys...there's no need to fight over me...
>let me tell you about yourself
except I can emulate games with zero fucking problems, in an open source OS even
I don't know why you're so mad that you're denying reality, I can emulate pretty much all games pretty well. The only games I have issues with are ubisoft titles that require a uplay connection in order to work.
>People at Nintendo don’t need to be reminded that indie games are important. They play them every day. In fact, one of the reasons I decided to leave was that there were fewer and fewer new battles to wage. Everyone was getting on the same page and starting to work together like a well-oiled machine. What fun is getting into an argument if the other person already agrees with you?"
Oh and for 3DS there was Steel Diver, One Piece Romance Dawn, prof layton and the azran legacy, Lego Hobit, Disney Animal Crossing, Conception, Kriby Triple delux, mario Golf, and tomodatchi life
>They're in financial trouble right now with the Wii U and the 3DS
No they are fucking not. Unlike Sony and Microsoft, who are the ones actually bleeding money (especially Sony) they kept putting their money in the bank, and the Wii made them enough to last ten more years of Wii U.
>Some nobody tries to tell Nintendo how to do it's job
>Ablo blo bloo why won't they listen to my opinion as a revolutionary fact abloo bloo bloo
Glad he left now he can't make his stupid ideas and fail miserably
However I do think that indie guy leaving Nintendo is bad because Nintendo needs more Baka gaijins like them show them what the worldwide image is really like. Mark Cerny telling Sony to fuck off with their ass backward architecture is saving the company. Nintendo needs more Mark cerny.
/v/ hatred of indies too stupid realize Dan was one of the people who were helping Nintendo's third party relation. Especially that police to remove office space requiremets to make a game for Nintnedo. So hope Iwata doesn't nerf NOA more then he already has.
Japan's xenophobia, and failure of understanding the importance of international business is part of why their economy is fucked. They just focus too much on their own world, and putting efforts in other countries. Sony panders to the west because they get the importance of being in kind global economy.