Why does it seem like gamers have dramatically lower standards than music and cinema enthusiasts?
Metroid Prime is one of my favorite games of all time, which happened long before I even had internet access. I never even knew it to be overrated till I started coming to this shithole.
First off, replace RE4 with Yoshi's Island
Second of all, it's because music and movies has been around for a FAR longer time than games, and most of gaming's mainstream lifetime has been as glorified baby sitting toys. It's only natural there hasn't been as much genuine quality in the medium to grow up with.
And of course the original trinity which started it all
I believe at the time those games were released, they were released to exactly the right amount of acclaim. They aren't overrated, you just listen to people who can't form opinions and spew nonsense. Games as a medium are very quickly evolving so it makes sense that yesterday's classics don't stack up to today's standards. There is no holy trinity of video games because games are constantly changing and the medium is evolving as technology evolves.
Film and music don't suffer from this because the technology required to enable them as imaginative outlets reached maturity a long time ago. Video games haven't yet reached the technology barrier-- creativity in games are always held back by current technology. Until we hit the point where that is no longer the case, there cannot be a set if 'timeless games'. At some point, any game you thought was excellent will be considered overrated and shit compared to modern titles.
Also holy shit is it so hard to count to 3 what in the flying fuck.
>creativity in games are always held back by current technology
Wow, you are fucking dumb as fuck. That statement couldn't be more wrong, being creative is more than just having the freedom to do whatever the fuck you want.
Yes because the majority of cinema releases these days aren't purile dreck or jewish comedies.
If it's popular and I like it
>GAME OF THE YEAR ALL YEARS THE BEST!!!
If it's popular and I don't like it
>WOW FUCKING OVERRATED TRASH!!
If it's not popular and I like it
>UNDERRATED GEM, IT DESERVES MORE RECOGNITION
If it's not popular and I don't like it
>LOL INDIE SHIT NO ONE CARES ABOUT
This is either some high quality bait
except TLOU actually belongs on thereor some horrible blend of neo-/v/ and summer put together.
It seems like that because you have absurdly low standards for music and cinema. Thereby making it seem like musica and cinema you like good and your higher standards for video games make them seem like people like shittier games.
They do like shitty games, so do you. But cinema and music also have low as fuck standards.
OP here, meant to post this instead.
No, it's literally floaty awesome. It is floaty but that's not bad. It's just different and it works for the game and scale.
It's still a better game than the other two, though ZM is pretty good as well.
Fusion is third best and equal to Metroid 1 for different reasons.
I can't drop SM, that's almost as overrated as CT.
If I had to drop anything else to fit it, I guess it'd be FF6, which is still highly overrated, but to nowhere near the degree of CT.
>What if someone doesn't think it's over rated?
By FUCKING DEFINITION, SOMEONE has to not think an overrated game isn't overrated. That's what overrated means. Something subjectively rated higher than it's rating is objectively.
That's literally what being overrated means.
The original trilogy are the equivalent of modern Transformers -- a shallow emotionless movie with cutting edge effects to distract you from the mediocrity of everything else. They've aged terribly.
Not OP, but I just played through the first one and a half hour and so far all I've had to do was follow another character around and maybe shoot three or four times in an alleyway with conveniently placed cover that really clashed with the rest of the environment.
Oh, and watch cutscenes. Lots and lots of cutscenes.
It's boring as shit.
>Half-life, OoT, ect
You can't be serious? All of those games might not be perfect but at least they are all good (besides TLOU). How can you seriously think anything is less over rated than COD, angry birds and farmville?
There is no point in saying something is overrated than to draw attention to yourself. If you want to criticize popular games please do that, but if all you want to say is that they're overrated you're just trying to make yourself look special.
You Primebabbys really piss me off.
Overrated =/= Bad
Half Life 2 isn't overrated at all.
Half Life 2 is to gaming in general what Citizen Kane is to cinema and what Beethoven is to music.
Now before the shitposting begins, I would like you to investigate WHY Beethoven and Citizen Kane are considered the best in their respective mediums.
People have a weird mentality about overrated games here.
I mean there are definitely games with a very vocal fanbase here, and a lot of those games are critically acclaimed, and inevitably someone here who hasn't played the game before will be convinced to give it a try. But when that person discovers that the game isn't 10/10 but actually only 8-9/10, their immediate reaction is to start posting everywhere about how egregiously overrated the game is.
The average vidya player is being conditioned to accept mediocrity
Ocarina and prime are pretty solid games but RE4 ruined survival horror by casualizing the genre to attract more buyers
Half Life 2 is a giant walk forward
Last of Us is beyond over rated. Very average game
Overrated can be bad and often is. It can also be okay but rated great. Overrated is relational indicator.
>Half Life 2 is to gaming in general what Citizen Kane is to cinema and what Beethoven is to music.
Literally three absolute overrated pieces of shit.
OoT and Half Life 2 are both definitely over-rated
>people still don't get it
OP clearly wants us to eliminate 2 of the games from that list so it actually is a trinity. He keeps reposting it because /v/ just greentexts at him instead of helping. Poor OP.
I think "overrated" in this context clearly means a game which receives great critical acclaim disproportionate to its actual quality, so an okay game which is considered great wouldn't fit. And I think if we're establishing a trinity it should be the most well-known critically-acclaimed games which are also of the lowest quality.
Not that that really matters since these are just the five games people will froth at the mouth to defend.
>MUCH MUSTARD MASK
>Angsty teen goggles: ON
heres an updated version, OP
a game not aging well =/= overrated.
the only people who would think that are either neo-/v/, reddit-ites, or children under 15
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It's a shame that most of his music is pretty much cookie cutter garbage that could have been any other shitty composers. He's got a few good movements tucked into a veritable shitstorm of generic shit.
I'd say you can't blame him because that was probably the order of the day except, you can.
I enjoyed all of those games
Citizen Kane is considered the best movie because of all the innovations it brought to cinema, from filming sets to the way the music is introduced in the scenes mixed with some controversial thematics, all of this in a great movie. It changed cinema forever.
Beethoven is considered the best because he is the key between musical clasicism and romanticism in the XIX century, in the form of some great music productions. He changed music forever.
What did half life 3 brought? Eye tracking, lip sync, new graphic engine, dynamic lighning, and of course, the physics engine, all of this in a great fucking game.
Is Beethoven the best because muh superior tastes say he music is great? No.
Is Citizen Kane the best movie because muh tastes in cinema? No.
Is Half Life 2 the best game because ur a fucking casual? No.
Innovation and revolutionary content is the key. That's why Half Life 2 is not overrated.
I played it for the first time about a month ago.
Thought it was bretty gud.
No, because being considered "great" is not a high enough acclaim and being considered "okay" is not a low enough quality to be considered overrated. Step up your reading comprehension.
Frankly it's underrated.
Most kids these days have probably never heard of Metroid Prime or Half Life 2 and probably never played Resident Evil 4 or Ocarina of Time.
I don't see how these are THE most overrated games, particularly since they are all actually good to some degree (except TLoU which is generic shit).
I mean there are games out there that are more highly lauded by casuals that aren't even good at all, like Skyrim.
It was a terrible movie. The only reason it's even noteworthy at all is because camera shots and even then it's the equivocal of a tech demo. The shots are shitty as fuck for framing the story. Which explains why the story is awful, horribly delivered and poorly directed. But dem critics sure love dem artistic camera angles. Enough to drag that shit pile of silver out into lists for over a half a century.
I usually don't take retard's opinions seriously but I'll bite.
You hate them because they're popular. Just like everyone here in this shithole.
You anti-prime babbies really piss me off
>mfw there exist animefags that think eroge VNs are on the same level as Citizen Kane, Beethoven and Orson Welles
>You anti-prime babbies really piss me off
That's good then. People who like Prime deserve to be pissed off until they have a fucking aneurism and die leaving this place slightly less shitty.
>eroge VNs are on the same level as Citizen Kane
About the same quality of writing and voice acting.
The only real difference is VNs don't zoom into japanese highschool pencils for blurred reflection while people try to talk in the background for 'effect.' But to make up for that fact if you sit through that garbage there's at least TnA.
>getting butthurt over anime pictures on 4chan
Bullshit. The ending is not as great as MGS3 fans claim with it's pointless Boss fuckery. It did some things well but the first two solid games beat it in story and characters, and 2 I would argue beats it in gameplay. 3 gets way too much praise even though it is a great game.
>thinking anime pictures are relevant to gets or video games
Typical anime watching mouthbreather.
The inbuilt delay is real and it's not from turn rates. They literally have it so shitter BRs and slavs don't have a disadvantage over amerifats with better connections. I wish I was joking.
>half Life anything
>Last of Us
Movies aren't games.
why is it in that list? People hate RE4, if anything its underrated, because it is good
its praised for a reason. It's good. dated, but good.
Same as MP
>Bandwagoning highschool drop out Arin "Egoraptor"
Anything pointing to the upper left is relevant to gets, newfriend
There is a forced ping delay so people with better connections don't have an advantage, I actually have about 200 hours in the game and prefer it over league, but that is still complete bullshit. That is unless you yourself is a BR or slav?
Upper left from the charact3r's perspective, I mean.
It gets shit on because people like you wrongly claim it is the best Metal Gear.
It's the same game as Super Metroid except in 3d unless you're one of those fucking literal autistic speedrunners.
Structured in the exact same way.
Super Metrpid isn't even that fucking good. You all just laud it as one of the greats for the same reason you laud Deus Ex. You're a bunch of fucking hipsters.
This. Entirely this. Skyrim is the very definition of being an overrated piece of shit.
Yet even though I think that, I can't help but love Oblivion and Morrowind, if only for their settings and more fantasy feel. Yes, they both have some pretty god damn big issues glaring you right in the eyes, but there was just something fun about being able wander around their worlds. Skyrim never had that feeling. It was a game developed without a soul
Google it, it's not just in dota 2 either. It's in the same engine in Starcraft 2 as well. Or if you want to actually feel the difference yourself play dota2 in one of the offline tutorials then jump immediately online. Huge delay.
You clearly haven't researched it, it essentially forces everyone to play like it's at 200 ms if they are under it. If they're over then it just plays like shit. Starcraft 2 has the same thing
ITT people confusing shitty fandoms with shitty games.
Most all the games listed are great, especially given the time they were released.
Over the year the cancerous fandom has worn them thin on pretty much everyone. Not to mention certain companies (Square-enix) milking them for all their worth and devaluing the series overall.
How? Raiden is a more agile version of Snake, so your issues would be with level design instead of just gameplay. The gameplay is fast, responsive, and has a high skill ceiling. 3 is almost as good but I think 2 is faster and more enjoyable to play.
You're off to a great start here OP
I never saw an anti-Prime sentiment here until that one guy who loved Other M started posting his opinions rampantly.
I'm soo freshy you can suck my ass!!!!
Get lost man. You are dumb and poopy! XD
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Because Music has been around forever and movies have been around for almost 100 years.
They are significantly;y more mature industries. People don't feel obligated to defend shit tier movies and music because they know good stuff is out there.
The same cannot be said for video games. The pickings are so slim that people hold onto things that are even slightly better than mediocre for dear life
OK, you know what? Fuck you. Fuck all of you immature, insensitive, ignorant assholes. The failed anime girl trolling on here is ridiculous and needs to stop. I imagine all of you immature /v/ kids, sitting in front of your computers giggling like the little school girls you post as you hit ctrl-c-ctrl-v after ctrl-c-ctrl-v and expend little to no effort in your trolling. I bet that most of you wouldn't even do this in real life and are only saying this stuff on here to be "funny", shocking, and because you can't come up with anything original. And that just sucks. This is not a joke. IT IS NOT FUNNY. Don't sit and there and pretend like you don't care, that you don't have any morals, because you do. We ALL do. And you should feel ashamed of yourselves, but you don't because you are too immature to realize the damage you cause with your "humorous" anime girl pictures and words.
Video games aren't art. Sure, they contain a bunch of art in the form of textures, models, music and choreography but they're just a collection of art.
Video games are museums.
>MFW I've enjoyed the heck outta every single one of the games posted in this thread
What's wrong with my /v/
How can I change my pleb ways ;_;
>OoT: Loved it as a child. My fond memories keep it on top, and I can admit that.
>M: Prime: I played it, thoroughly enjoyed it, but still don't really get the hype.
>HL: Still haven't played em. I'm afraid the hype has made me jaded.
>LoU: Played this recently. 6/10 at best. I honestly can't see why everyone is soaking their panties over this.
>Re4: Sitting in the queue. Not big into survival horror, but everyone I know loves it.
I think you're dumb for getting so agitated over this you have to come up with silly names.
Posting more anime grills.
If a game can make countless people happy to the point they're readily willing to express that sentiment, can you really say it's overrated?
Overrated really means
>Games everyone but me likes
They're both games that are excellent the first time through but with literally no replay value at all, unless you play them for a second time such a long time after the first that you forget everything.
>year of our lord 2014
hope you enjoy burning in hell contrarian fagit
I bet you feel pretty stupid.
Now delete this thread, retard.
No, see, the thing that made everyone flip their shit was that OP posted 3 incredibly overrated games and two that actually deserve all the praise they get. If it had just been 5 amazing games that everyone loves, no one would fall for it.
>why is it in that list? People hate RE4, if anything its underrated, because it is good
RE4 is pretty highly rated everywhere else. It's just that /v/ is full special snowflake hipsters and nostalgiafags who hate it because "muh survival horror." Nevermind that RE2 and RE3 already took the series to a more action-oriented route.
As a matter of fact, all video games are shit, regardless of whether you like them or hate them.
Video games are directly connected to anti-social behavior, including murder, rape, and other crimes. Video games have caused minor and major autism in many different children.
Video games, and escapism in general, are bad things. Video games aren't toys for children. They are the complete opposite. They are a danger to our children, and everyone around them.
Only a truly terrible person enjoys video games.
Enjoy being shunned by society, anon.
>/v/ can't into Trinity
>/v/ makes up stupid ____is _____s lightning
>puts Metroid Prime and RE4 over Bioshock Infinite and Pokemon Red and Blue, games that people outside of fedora land actually talk about/know exist and praise constantly on social media and other shit.
If Half Life wasn't part of the longest running joke since duke nukem forever nobody would talk about the game and even less would remember them. LESS THEN NOBODY YES THATS HOW MANY.
If bait I bit hard. 10/10
>a game which can be played in multiple ways should not be played multiple times
>a person who enjoyed the game has no incentive to play the game again
What kind of stupid faggot are you?
who is this /v/ person everyone is talking about?
TLOU GOAT game. Accept it or kill yourself. /v/ is just full of hipsters trying to sound cool when in fact they're just basement dwellers depending on their parents' money. Come at me fag hipsters.
Also jealous xbots, pcfags and tenyearolds.
oh shit, I shouldve said melee.
how can people possibly think it's better than brawl? it's garbage in comparison.
"b-but muh mewtwo" shut your trap faggot. mewtwo sucks and you know it.
It seems that way because you're stupid.
One of the most popular films in recent years was The Dark CIA Big Guys. One of the most popular musicians in recent years was Justin Bieber. Just as how one of the popular video-games was Gone Home.
The masses are plebs in every field.
>more than 5
>Ocarina of time
>implying those reviews mean literally anything
Just fucking look at them
>hurr durr quest bugs, graphics issues, gameplay glitches, unexplained crashes, 97/100 GOTY
>stumbles over it's confused ai, shuts itself down, half-done inventory system, 100/100
I mean fucking seriously.
>this is what Superautists actually believe
It sold half of what Prime did.
Real talk here, right now let's be serious guys.
Have you ever actually watched speed runners? I mean really? They are the most autistic pathetic faggots on the planet, they have spent literally thousands of hours of their lives on one video game that is probably shit anyway.
If that's not autism then I don't know what is. I mean I've collectively spent thousands of hours on games sure, but one game? Come the fuck on guys and tell me with a straight face any normal functioning human has fun resetting over and over trying to glitch a game perfectly.
and do you see how mad they get when they mess up?
Come the fuck on right now.
This thread is the Citizen Kane of threads on /v/.
>posts a pentalogy
>uses the word holy on a Christian board
10/10, can't get any better than this. Waiting for a sequel already.
Why do autists throw this big of fits over something they can just try again at?
Please don't tell me some of you are actually like this.
But you're wrong and stupid anon.
Just because people who dedicate their lives to it are pathetic doesn't mean getting good at a game you really like is bad. Speedrunning a long-ass RPG over and over would be autistic, but many of them are short and easy to get back into. Seems no different to me than people who compete for high scores at arcade games.
This thread sucks so I'll ask
Does anyone have the screencap of that guy who became a stereotypical hero of justice in his highschool?
You are wearing nostalgia goggles. I played Oblivion and Skyrim within a month or two of eachother and they feel nearly identical. I liked both, and each had aspects they did better than the other, but if you think skyrim was soulless, that is something shared with oblivion pretty much by default.
I'd punch myself and break my shit if I was as much of a faggot as that guy.
Just because you like wallowing in mediocrity doesn't mean some people aren't dedicated. I swear, people are starting to use "autistic" to mean "giving the remotest shit about anything".
Oh wow really? I'm not even that guy and he didn't reply to anyone. Stop feeling so offended by anyone who makes a comment you nigger.
I was joking about your autism but now I'm not so sure anymore. What the fuck.
>punching yourself and chimping out by smashing your controller = "being dedicated and not wallowing in mediocrity"
Seek professional help.
Speedruners confirmed for deulsional autists