nah, shes tall, just the way i like her
>accurate in any way
Where were you when pokemon trainer was confirmed to be a midget?
Anon, the fact that she's taller than the females and just as big as Bowser scares me
To be fair, they shrunk Bowser slightly.
I'm saying it makes no sense to compare animals to human limits when animals can fly faster than humans, jump higher and all that shit anyway, especially if you are taking relative size into account
Reminder that smash characters are figurines.
I.E. Olimar would be seventy two times larger than he actually is in Pikmin canon if the sizes in Smash were accurate to normal human proportion.
It makes sense to compare punches to punches. It doesn't make sense to compare flying speed of an animal to something that can't fly or bipedal running to a quadrupedal running.
>retconed in smash
Actually, the retcon happened in Punch Out Wii (and maybe even before in the Super Punch Out for the Super NES). Smash only took the figures from the Punch Out Wii game.
>The only people who hate Rosalina being tall are little macs.
I hope this isn't true, because that would be extremely pathetic when there are 6"plus woman
This is "Goodra is female only" levels of retarded.
>smash little mac is 5"7
Can't the nigga run under a mario fireball? I swear smash based him in his original height.
He should have lined them up. 6"3 Samus looks taller than Rosalina there
Why is her final smash so fucking bad? Sakurai's not even trying
She still looks taller than rosalina here
I'll probably use it decently
>put it in the center of the stage
>pick at someone trying to hide on the edge myself
Wouldn't it be more effective right at the edge so it knocks them away when they try to recover?
Actually, no. She is bigger than Berman and on par with most of the GF soldiers, but most of the footage have a treachery perspective. some footage actually show her size is quite big.
OP is retarded. Smash Bros doesn't use canon sizes, Olimar is sized up and Pokemon are inspired by the anime more than the games.
Look at this pic, she is more or less on the same plan than the soldier on her right, he is just a bit forward. They basically have the same height and only his elevated visor get to be above her head (also the fact that he is a bit more forward) Assuming the GF soldiers are all 2 meters high, her size wasn't changed.
Well, if Samus is around 6'5", then Kirby would be about two feet tall. If we go by Kirby's height of 8", then Samus would be about 2'4".
Comparing heights in smash is stupid.
Donkey Kong is pretty light for a gorilla, now anyway.
But Rosalina weighs about the same as Waluigi going by Mario Kart, but she is fucking huge in comparison to the other girls
>Villager could suck Little Mac's dick standing up
Sectonia's absurdly curvaceous lower half is roughly Kirby's size. She'd be around Samus's height, so she's either 6'3", or 2'0"
I don't see why not. Size doesn't really matter.
Kirby is about as tall as that GameCube disc according to Melee
The proportions of the characters are essentially the same, but they are scaled up or down to a common ground in fairness of competition.
Can't have Pikachu small enough to fit in Bowser's mouth or Olimar getting stepped on.
No, because Sakurai emphasized that he remain tiny because he's a toy. One of the few characters that has almost absolutely no chance.
So why does fucking EVERYBODY say that Samus is some Amazonian giantess all the time?
Is pic related the only source on the matter? Because it came from a western player's guide, and those used to make up shit all the time. I wouldn't exactly call it canon.
Has her height EVER been addressed in a game?
Actual mario games are I the wrong there. Mario uses Yoshi like a horse, he can't be lighter.
Maybe he's full of helium and that's why his nose is so round
So we have a 100+ reply discussion about the size of a character because some Autist's OCD compelled him to take the time to make calculations and comparisons in the form of some bullshit image?
I don't even know why I ask anymore, but, why does ANYBODY care?
It takes a while for Rosalina to create the star, if you were to use the FS when someone is recovering, they're probably going to be able to get back up and run to the other side of the stage. And at that point there's no point using it anyway, they're basically dead anyway.
It's just shit. Even good placement can't change that.
>external temperature, when the moisture in the moisture in the lungs begins to freeze.
HOLY SHIT PROOF READ YOUR SHIT WHOEVER MADE THIS
it can't be wrong, because it's the true mario 'canon', smash bros is incorrect whether it's logical or not
Ray's smaller than Pichu. And then there's the problem of his proportions. He has tiny limbs that even if Sakurai DID put him in it wouldn't work because you couldn't see them on the 3DS version, even with outlines what with all the zooming out.
Why the hell is her suit so lime yellow? Even the power suit wasn't that bad.
Ridley's proportions and anatomy do though.
Well yeah. He's in the land of mushroom people and there are mushrooms he can walk on and vines he can climb. Mario deals with Brobdingnagian fungi. Kirby is a lilliputian character in a normal sized world.
>Ray's smaller than Pichu
Pichu is fucking tiny when it comes to canon
>then there's the problem of his proportions
He has the same proportions as a normal humanoid robot, stop looking too into things.
The height was taken from Metroid 2.
I'm also pretty sure she was decently tall next to:
>the scientist at the beginning of Super
>some NPCs at the beginning of fushion
>I think she was actually a little bit taller than the average good soldier in prime 3(you can compare right before the Gandrayda fight)
Of course Other M retcons a lot of things
>Pichu is fucking tiny when it comes to canon
We're not talking about canon, we're talking about as far as SSB is concerned.
>He has the same proportions as a normal humanoid robot
No, his limbs are thin and wouldn't work with the 3DS version.
Characters don't remain the same size in every game
>Ridley in Melee's intro, Ridley in SSE, Ridley in SSB4
>Bowser, DK and Dedede are all bigger in SSB4
>Little Mac is larger than he was in Brawl
Without logically downsizing him for smash? Yes, he is too big
the ray 01 limbs seem fine, to me anyway.
>How do you know?
Common sense and going by Brawl's model.
>The camera doesn't pan very far out on the 3DS
You can barely make out any details on the characters here, it would be a nightmare to have Ray.
Palutena would be a good addition too.
Not if he's going to be smaller than Pichu.
>>Ridley in Melee's intro
Not in the actual game itself
>Ridley in SSB4
You don't know how big he's going to be yet exactly.
>Bowser, DK and Dedede are all bigger in SSB4
Because Sakurai sized up some of the big guys.
>Little Mac is larger than he was in Brawl
Okay? That can't happen to Ray because Sakurai's specifically made a point of making him tiny because he's a toy, and he never said anything of the sort in regards to Little Mac.
And how many with stubby, thin ones? Oh that's right. Zero.
Fuck, forgot to save. here's the actual picture.
>Little Mac is 5'7
>He's called LITTLE
Feels bad man.
Unless I can take him and Bruce as role models and almost feel good about myself.
But ones dead and the others fictional.
Fuck you, genetics.
Have him go on all fours or crouch.
His wings are small.
Get some imagination, shit.
You have to use uprising. Get a good shot during her boss fight .
So you're trusting side games that have Mario racing Bowser?
Believing in a Mario canon is like trying to make a canon out of Mickey Mouse cartoons. It's pointless and somewhat autistic.
I still think smash uses his original 4"8 size. He's tiny next to people like Link. Link is not tall.
He wasnt talking about Ridley in Smash 4.
Use Other M Ridley.
Shrink his wings to the 2D Ridley proportions or even Brawl Ridley's.
Shorten his tail a little and shrink the tail blade.
Boom, problem solved.
I have an imagination, but I can't think of a moveset without it overlapping with A moves or making him a broken cockmunch
>Why the hell would that thing be playable?
Daily reminder that Ridley won't get in because his spot was taken by Lana
but he can be down sized to a logical height, while still be a giant monster
Can I get a source? People always say this but I never find a source
Little Mac's B moves have a kind of gimmick.
Two of which are based on counter punch or dodge-and-counter which are staples of Punch-Out!! as a whole. Then there's the Star Punch Rocket (Wii) and the KO punch (Arcade, SNES), both based on the Special Punches of the two types of Punch-Out!! games.
Do your worst.
He never said that, he said he wouldn't be playable because he couldn't think of a way to make him work, I'm pretty sure. That's not the same situation and you know it.
The Smash DOJO, circa 2008~.
That's weird, maybe I am wrong, but I remember reading on Nintendo Magazine that adult Link was around 5'5 to 5'4. Most game protagonists aren't that tall, apart from Western games and even then they have short males.
The height is taken from Metroid 2's manual. What the people who made the guide that picture was from didn't realize was that the 6'3 height was Samus while inside the suit. Samus is probably 6'1 tops and less than 200 pounds. Still really tall, though, which has been consistent in the games.
She's still pretty damn tall, heels or no
So to clarify, he has a punch, a punch, a punch, a punch, a punch, a punch, a punch, a punch, a punch, a punch, a punch, and... wait for it... a punch.
And you can't think of a more diverse moveset for a fire-breathing dragon.
>And Sakurai's already said Ray is too small and should remain so because he's a toy. That's the end of it.
>he said he wouldn't be playable because he couldn't think of a way to make him work
You are contradicting yourself.
It's the context of how the moves work or what they're referencing.
Mind you, I was happy with him just being an assist trophy so his playability came as a shock. I love it, but again I'm not Sakurai.
So you have no argument so you proceed to resort to insults.
I swear, if he's actually playable I'm gonna be shitposting like
TOO BIG FOR YOUR ASSHOLE XD! LE ANALLY DEvASTATED
>And you can't think of a more diverse moveset for a fire-breathing dragon.
Not to mention there are two other fire-breathing dragons: A Pokémon and a mutant Ox-turtle, both of whom have been better defined through their series history in a more characteristic manner.
Ridley on the other hand does like what? Swing his claws, swoop and grapple you, blow energy blasts and uses his tail as a spear or a faux series of spikes. At best I see him as a flying, grappling type of character since his main thing is grabbing and squeezing the every loving piss out of you.
Adding to this, he's not made for ground combat like the other two dragons, I suppose you could argue he'd be the opposite of Little Mac in this way but this is a game where falling off the damned ledge is the thing you're trying to AVOID and damned if Ridley's recover is damned near broken.
Being a potential grapple character, that won't bode well for his viability but we shall see what Sakurai does. Personally, I half expect a vest and a blaster being added to him if he does make the cut.
Rings true for certain characters though, like Ridley, Kraid and other disproportionately huge characters.
Graphical limitations. Stop posting this useless "argument".
>You're a troll.
How am I a troll? I actually want Ray, but recognize he's not possible for the issue of his size, where Sakurai said he must remain tiny, as well as other factors involving his series and SSB.
I can't stop laughing.
I actually want Ridley because if he IS confirmed playable, the shitstorm will go on for several months and not subside, whereas if he's deconfirmed we'll have a month of "BTFO" posts and then nobody will care a whole lot.
1.Rosalina changes size throughout the games
2.Olimar, who is the size of a chess pawn in his games is as tall as Kirby and Pikachu
3.Super Smash Bros characters are toys
Lifting is one cartoony thing, giving Bowser a picky back ride would be a whole nother thing.
Ridleys size in inconsistent like Bowser, and like Bowser he has an appearance that is barely taller than Samus. Smash Ganondorf is too small for his in-game size. Even the OoT version.
Know I wouldn't argue about"he's bigger than the screen now"Kraid. HE's disproportionally big.
bowser riding mario is not the same as yoshi riding mario.
What all of this means is in the mario universe weight is not the same as it is in the real world. Yoshi can carry mario because it happens, thats not an error. Mario can ride on a shy guy too and yoshi can ride on poochy.
The NPC measure your dive. A little experiment and you can tell the big lines are definitly meters.
>remembers the little Yoshi from Paper mario
Alright, you have a point
If you follow the discussion, you will find this started with someone showing the sizes of characters from games, and one person said that was because of graphical limitations so they don't count. Since the pictures were from games someone showed boswer from a game, the point was made that bowser changes size via magic, and doesn't really have a set size.
>megaman vaults off of samus
This chart has issue
>Mario is canon 5ft
>half of Marths height
Yeah, it does
>mfw i realize I'm in the wrong smash thread
That wasn't the point that the guy was making with the post. Seriously just stop.
Anyways, characters are proportionate pretty closely within their series. Outside of their own universe its different. Kirby's not correct compared to mario, but Kirby and deedeedee are about the same as they always are compared to each other.
Yep, "except for everyone" still doesn't make sense.
When compared to characters within their own series', the size is constistant. its only when you are comparing them to other games are they different. AGAIN, Kirby and Deedeedee, would be smaller compared to people from other game series, but to there own, they are correct, he's always been about that tall compared to kirby.
>canon Rosalina has auto-force field
>you will never have to hug her so tight that the force field covers you both as she carries you through a war zone
>not just shamelessly staring at what ever is most interesting, like MK8 programmed him to
>using Smash Bros. as reference
Rosalina is a giantess in SMG
>using that one momment in the ending as canon size
Why? She's already like 7"7 going by the actual model.>>255932380
>tfw you're both taller and heavier than a Charizard
THAT BITCH IS TALL
>people have actually depended on this
What I'm saying is that you're a fucking hyper-casual if you got that to appear.
Also, >>255950478 is right. Pic related is Galaxy 2.
I do hope you're not seriously trying to use Smash as an accurate scale, considering characters like Kirby and Meta Knight are supposed to be just a couple inches tall, with Olimar and Pikmin being even smaller than that.
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And people say /mlp/ and /lgbt/ are bad.
idk, but if ridley is playable I will go out and buy a wiiu just for smash.
>never find girls taller than me
It hurts. Any girl 5'9" and up instantly catches my eye.
If that's your basis for Ridley, then he has to look like this in-game, since this is his original NES art.
This is basically saying you can't redesign anything in smash.
Your not making a good counter arguement.
I don't know...
Pit and IC got redesigned, but they hadn't been in a game for over a decade. The most you had was boxart and a manual. Ridley's been in almost every Metroid game with the same basic design almost every time.
At the end of the day, a simple scale down is all that's needed. And as far as not being able to get redesigned at all...
I'm just not sure. The Zelda reps are all in their TP forms because Ganondorf wasn't in SS. If Ridley were to get in with his fugly OM form, Samus would have to be in that design as well, which wouldn't make people happy.
They retconned him to 5"7 in wii. But there's no way his Smash self isn't based in the original 4"8 when he's much shorter than link.
He'll in wii he still looked small because the other fighter are huge, but clearly a shorty in smash period.