Is there a game that truly conveys the vastness of deep space?
Imagine if you were granted invincibility and someone shrunk Jupiter to the size of a watermelon and you put your dick inside of Jupiter and you could feel its gravitational pull and high velocity storms surging through every inch of your cock. In the future they should make shrunken planets into the new fleshlights and the best part is that you don't really need to clean it up and the shrunken planets would make a nice decoration.
/v/ always goes batshit insane about Gone Home (which is a decent game) and calls it a movie and space engine is PURE UNINTERESTING WALKING FROM POINT A TO POINT FUCKING B.
Seriously that's all you do.
Space engine is even less of a video game than Gone home.
Go to Earth, click on a random star in the background, and travel to it. Then try to get back to Earth without using the search function or looking at the names of stars/planets you click on.
Then if you manage to do that, do the same thing from across the galaxy.
And if by some slim chance you're able to do that, travel to another galaxy and try it.
Neither of them are games. However, fuck you if you don't think space is the tightest shit.
I can't believe you're honestly trying to compare walking around a boring house picking up boring journal entries to flying around space in a way humanity will never, ever get to experience in reality.
Aurora. You'll realize how vast space is when your exploration ship is at 10% fuel while billions of kilometers away from the jump point leading back to civilization.
They don't call it Dwarf Fort in space for nothing.
Do you like spreadsheets? There are plenty of those too.
i would say dota 2 which is literally deeper than deep space you could fill the entire space with water and if u tried to go to the bottom of the ocean it would still not be as deep as dota 2
How have you not succumbed to bugs yet.
Yep. There's also Distant Worlds Universe for people who aren't autistic and prefer their games with graphics.
SS13 would be Adventure Mode. Aurora is Fortress Mode.
That's precisely what it is.
I'm using Aurora Portable, which is pretty damn stable. I uploaded it to mega a few days ago for some other anon. I can give you the link if you want.
Degenerates like you have no right to exist.
Trying to explain just how big even one galaxy is is almost impossible. It's hard for people to imagine numbers even as large as a million, let alone a trillion or higher, as anything other than conceptual.
Trying to explain how large the universe is is actually impossible since it's expanding and some parts of it are actually far enough away that the light from them hasn't reached us yet. It might not even be finite.
Maybe because it's not marketed as a game
Maybe because it's not sold as a game
Maybe because it's actually not shit
Maybe because it's not actually a game
Maybe because it's actually an ENGINE
imagine falling through this
>reality is just a bunch of rocks and gas floating around giant explosions
>implying you're not in a matrix right now
Really? How come?
>mfw the machines already won
Gas giants are bretty cool though.
>Jupiter famous red spot storm that is going on for 300-400 years is large enough to contain 2-3 earth like planets
Then I don't see why not.
Reminds me of the simulation in the elemists or however that shit is spelled chronicles from the anamorphs series where the two bird people each have a species they influence
If quantum computing becomes a thing and you can make a 1:1 simulation of the universe, and that simulation includes the simulation and that one does too and so on, the odds are increasingly against us being 'on top', or the real world.
Apparently there's some evidence that MIGHT indicate that we're all just living in a simulation. I don't think it's like a Matrix scenario, though. We'd all just be computer programs for research purposes. I managed to find and skim an article or two. No idea how reputable they are.
Here you go friend.
Fair warning, you'll have to launch using AW_Aurora instead of Aurora.
>Hyped up as the greatest fucking story ever told when it's complete generic garbage
>It's treated as what it is, a really cool space simulator with lots of detail
>HURR /V/ WHY YOU SO HYPOCRITE
Fuck off retard
An endless expanse of people fucking, people jacking off, people dying, and the remainder being stuff on TV being movies and music with a bit of wind thrown in for that natural feel
The required reading shows you some of the mechanics of the game in action, along with being interesting to read in general. That and the wiki helped me figure the game out.
More than anything, treat it like a roguelike. Fuck up, learn from your mistakes, then apply that knowledge to your next game.
Not many games will make you feel like in the vast deepness of space.
Space Engine IS vast, but there's not much to do other than watch.
You can try Space Engineers if that's your kinda thing too.
The problem with a game that has good gameplay and a story that makes sense etc can't adjust to the scope of an entire galaxy without recurring to stuff like warp gates or whatever, thus eliminating the "vastness" feel of the game.
If you can get engrossed in the lore, sure, but otherwise not much you can do regarding that.
One game that I did like a lot that was really big was Freelancer, even if there were the jump gates and all the systems were actually really big themselves.
>being this new
Also this is literally my face when people are jizzin over tumblr tint man's sky because "space exploration like this has neer been done before"
That's one hurdle I wish we could get over. The beautiful thing about space is that it's unthinkably huge. So huge if you lost your cars keys in it you'd almost never find them again. The bad part is that means that traveling through space means unthinkably long times of traveling through nothing. Literally
>Does killing people matter? If you can make an exact replica of the universe, its inhabitants would be thinking, living creatures.
To them, but to us, they're just the subjects of a simulation. No different to watching Sims really, just really intelligent ones.
Just imagine how much data you could get from a simulation like this; ridiculously realistic data, and you can subject the inhabitants to whatever you wish, ethical or not.
>Watch Planetes a few days ago
>Realize I'll never see any real space exploration progress in my lifetime
>tfw I as born too late to see the moon landing and too soon to see a Mars landing and beyond.
At least you got to see scientists draw a penis on Mars
>play kerbal space program for the first time
>terrible at it
>decide to look at mods
>download a booster that has insane thrust and uses very little fuel
>shoot my rocket up
>dont know how to enter orbit or how to get to the moon, just aim at the moon and engage thrusters
>pass moon, cant get to it
>leave earths orbit
>dont know how to increase speed
>hurtling through the emptiness of space
>run out of fuel
I've never had a video game fill me with so much dread before. I was actually sick to my stomach and didnt play ksp again for 6 months.
But it can't really be done.
The game won't feel vast if you can get from point a to point b in a matter of seconds or minutes.
If you make it so that traveling is really slow it can become tedious, very much so.
And there's still the issue of the amount of content the game would have.
Mass Effect 1 & 2 for example did have quite some content in them, but the games didn't feel vast, they didn't feel like a true world.
We have to make a choice, realism or entertainment.
Just ask yourself this, if Space Engine had a speed limit such as light speed, would you play it? I know I would but it would be very limited, too limited. It would take us six minutes to go from earth to the sun, at lightspeed. The game would loose all it's purpose.
>Think space is terrifying, especially black holes.
>Play Space Engine for the first time, in fullscreen too.
>Looking at space, then click a random spot.
>I start traveling to it at light speed.
>It stops me right infront of a black hole.
>Jump out of my seat a bit, shout for a quick second and immediately exit out of the game.
>>Realize I'll never see any real space exploration progress in my lifetime
You do realize that the moon is hollow, and that the Russians have planned a permanent moonbase there in 2030s, right?
>yfw Cosmonauts digging through the upper layer into the caverns
wake up an ancient evil
>You do realize that the moon is hollow
>Humanity invents faster than light travel
>Meets alien races
>Gets invited into space UN
>Works hard and makes great strides for our opinion among the other races
>Become highly respected; other aliens wish to be like us
>Our wisdom is respected even by the greys
>Eventually, all our shitty media makes it's way to the other planets
>Aliens snicker at us behind our backs
>Banned from all the cool alien space things
>We become the laughing stock of the galaxy
>Have to move to another galactic cluster and make up a new identity
You don't know shit
>accidentally find black hole
>SS13 standalone comes out
>the RPers aren't interested because they want social interaction
>the shitters aren't interested because there's no one to grief
>the only people that leave are the ones robust at their work and enjoy running the station
>ss13 multiplayer dies shortly after because no one can stop ERPing and griefing long enough to start up the power
Light, space, and gravity are so fucking weird.
>Once you start getting close to the speed of light your vision begins to expand. Not because of your eyes but because you're beginning to "catch up" with the light coming from behind you
>Every time you press shify+g on a galaxy
Not very reputable. There is a link to one published paper (which doesn't always mean it is credible) but it is mainly hypothetical shit. That discovery article makes it sounds more like philosophy than science.
you can't fool me black hole, I know you're in this thread
I"ll take a crack at it.
The game is just going to be the same 10 planets with minor differences over and over again. Unlike real life where this is probably the case but amazingly interesting, NOS is just going to be stale and uninteresting after the first 10 hours.
In Space Engine if you select the Milky Way for fast travel it send you straight to the center of it.
There you suddenly found yourself facing a supermasssive blackhole surrounded by so many stars there's almost no void to be seen.
Except for that huge motherfucker in the middle of all, the blinding darkness at the center of all light.
Dis fucking nigga, I laughed harder than I should have.
>Distant alien listening in to different radio waves as they travel through the universe in an attempt to find intelligent life
>"i'm so fancy... you already know" woshes by in a low volume
>Playing space engine
>messing around with the speed hotkeys and realize i can go over the regular speed limit
>traverse the whole universe in a second
>speed keeps going up
>cant control myself zipping from one end of the universe to the other so quickly
>fly so far away can't see any galaxies
>no sense of direction at all, no hope of finding home
>feel like throwing up and uninstall
Will Wright claimed Spore would be amazing. Then EA gutted it for profit.
Devs lie anon. Devs mislead. A developers primary function is to get their game in the hands of others, not be your mommy.
Black holes aren't all that bad really. They're far away from earth and don't bug anyone, they also get rid of pesky run away space light and debris, why are you all scared of something you'll never see?
Pic related is similar, but from the point of view of a moon of a planet like that
Seriously why the fuck is that? Do we all instinctively know that in the far end we will be swallowed by one?
Well Black Holes are the closest thing you can get to Hell in the natural world. Most people think of space and time as infallible and never changing and black holes are a gigantic "fuck you" to that notion.
I mean really imagine if you fell into a supermassive black hole and you had just long enough to consider your situation. What would be your final thoughts as you realized that everything you were may as well have been erased from the natural world?
Our Sun doesn't have the mass to become a black hole.
>Sun expands swallows Earth in it's death
>Sun expands doesn't swallow Earth and everything freezes
Pretty lucky considered how deadly the Universe is.
>start Noctis IV for the first time
>land on a cratered planet right beside a supermassive white star
>can't see shit
>don't know how to activate night vision
>some sort of wind blows me away into the darkness
>don't know how to call the lander
>realize later I was literally walking on lava
>decide to visit another solar system
>calculate the timing and thrust vectors to get there in the least amount of fuel
>all goes smoothly
>engage FTL travel
>hop into cryostasis for the year long trip
>get woken up exactly a year later
>no planet in sight
>check the flight logs
>trajectory shows you flew only a few hundred thousand kilometres from a black hole
>its gravitational pull bent your flight path and sent you off on a tangent into unmapped space
>realise the reason why you weren't allerted was because when you're travelling faster than light by the time something is visible you have already passed through it
>decelerate to near light speed
>enjoy the view
That's true oblivion, how terrifying.
The Earth will burn either way. Either the Sun will swallow it and there will be no evidence it ever existed. Or it won't and everything will melt and burn to a crisp anyway and the only corpse will be a burnt piece of charcoal.
Here's some fun reading
>There are potentially billions of Supermassive Black holes floating around right now moving at trillions of miles per hour
>They are completely unseen and undetectable until they begin to feed
>There could be one on its way here right now
>If there were there wouldn't be a single thing we could do about it
Space Citizen anyone?
>Nah, when you get in a Blackhole you don't die because past the EH time stops,you'd live for ever.
>past the EH time stops,you'd live for ever
i think it's retarded how people can have ideas like this (that aren't even necessarily "wrong" according to physics) and not think our current idea of "time" is broken.. what the fuck
I probably should've just read the date at the bottom to realize what was up instead of Googling it.
>people actually believed the Hadron would create a Blackhole that would destroy the Earth
It's amazing how dumb the average person is.
Millions of microscopic ones that evaporate, yeah.
You mean make a black hole by smashing a couple of particles together? They're not collapsing an entire star there
Black holes really are the embodiment of the word "oblivion." People say "well if we could build a machine that could move faster than light then we're good." But that's not how space works. Gravity literally bends and dents the actual space you exist in. And in a black hole space is bent to such a degree that space itself is "falling" into the center. There is no such "left," "right," "up," or "away." The only direction that exists inside a black hole is "down." Literally. No matter which direction you travel at the speed of light you can only go "down" to the center.
If it weren't for the fact that black holes were so far away they'd be the ultimate nightmare fuel
Jesus Christ I'm subscribed to this guy on youtube.
Oh my. FYI that picture is from the Solar Dynamics Observatory run by NASA.
>Pretty lucky considered how deadly the Universe is.
you've got that right.
>there could be a planet sized asteroid propelled from a distant supernova going near the speed of light heading in our direction right now
>we'd never see it coming
>one day it would hit the earth and blow it to pieces
>the impact so fast and destructive we wouldn't even notice
>one day, we'd just cease to exist.
jesus christ, everytime i rewatch this and the star gets in view i get an ASMR tingle in my neck
We know our idea of time and space is wrong because of shit like black holes. But the problem is that it's the best we got at the moment and we don't have anything to replace it. Until another Albert Einstien comes along with an idea that's a bit closer to how it actually works.
>get horribly fucking annoyed by the whiny protag
Gurl was 10/10 though.
>implying mankind will ever permamently leave earth with the current space race funding
> CTLR F
/v/ confirmed for not knowing shit about video games
There are no planet sized asteroids, something that big would be a planet. Something that large also wouldn't survive a supernova fully intact, and would certainly not reach speeds near the speed of light.
I hope that alleviates some of your fears.
If you want to be scared look up gamma ray bursts
It doesn't do scale on a universal level well, ship scales are lovely when you meet a Titan. You can fly from planet to planet at a decent speed with a sanic fit Vagabond/Dramiel/Stiletto.
Quantum theory is one of the most successful theories we have. The problem with string theory is it has no experimental evidence, or any currently testable hypothesis as far I know. It sounds cool but that is about it so far.
Does anyone else ever feel physically sick when you really think about how massive some objects in our solar system are compared to earth? Let alone how small we are on an intragalactic scale.
Black holes are just large objects. So large that their gravity has caused them to collapse upon their own weight. So strong is this force that not even light can escape it. It consumes light. Sucks the fastest moving thing in the universe in and leaves only blackness. Even at its fringes light cannot pass, an object moving behind it simply eternally redshifting but otherwise frozen in time.
shit wrong video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pfwY2TNehw
Semi related note:
>fuck around in Space Engine
>type in some coordinates, or use Go To on some very distant star, can't remember
>well shit bugged out
>noticed that I move with like a thousand of speeds of light and only speeding up
>still black screen, wat
>suddenly burst of light, move through universe at sanic speed, can't see anything clear
>after like a minute of madness it slows down and zooms in on the previously chosen star
>realise I just went outside of the universe, think of the scale of the distance I crossed to get to that star
>Alf+F4, cry myself to sleep
Space got good tastes.
Also, I have recurring dreams where some planet fills all or almost all of the entire horizon. Usually Jupiter or Saturn. And it usually rotates at a disturbing rate. I always find myself clinging to the ground for some reason.
No one knows. Just like no one knows what Dark Energy is. It's basically a name given to things in space that we can't really explain.
We run the numbers and see that the galaxies do not have enough gravity to hold themselves together for the speed they're spinning at. But we don't know what's making the extra gravity or where it's coming from. So we just call it Dark Matter until we can figure out what it is. We see that the expansion of space isn't slowing down, it's actually speeding up and we don't know where the extra energy is coming from. So we call it Dark Energy until we can figure out what it is.
jupiter use to be my favorite planet growing up until i found out it was made entirely of gas and that we'd never be able to visit its surface.
I feel despair. Astronomical distances mean that the human race is essentially fucked. No sci-fi warp speed bullshit, no alien neighbours, just humans and their little rock until we die out.
What exactly do you mean? We need scientific theories to explain experiment and observation so that we can apply our knowledge.
In the case of string theory it doesn't really do much right now, since it can't be tested right now.
There are plenty of stars we could reach with a few years or decades had we the appropriate (plausible) propulsion systems.
Hell, there might even be earth-sized planets there.
We've always got Mars, right? Give it a few centuries and we'll have some guys there. We'll have a pal in the universe.
Dark matter is like regular matter (atoms and shit we can touch etc) except it doesn't interact with regular matter. What's really interesting is that it does interact with gravity.
So when a bunch of dark matter and regular dust come by a planet for example, they are both pulled in the same way but the dust collides with the planet and burns up in its atmosphere while the dark matter passes through it.
That's about the limit of what we know that I can explain though.
I'm the opposite. I feel such awe and amazement at how enormous the universe is and all the gigantic things in it. Those feeling got me interested in science as a career.
There's this dream I have every now and then:
>wake up in the middle of the night
>walk to kitchen (its small+massive window with a view of a car park)
>look outside and there are no buildings or anything, just a flat horizon as far as the eye can see and those two massive, blue galaxies rising from the horizon
One version included ships flying in the distance sorta similar to those from Homeworld.
>all the dark matter sitting in the core of our planet
Will humanity be ready to fight back?
>Huge galactic political crisis happens over Greys stealing cows
But it isn't!
Jupites does have a "solid" core!
>there will never be a game entirely focused around exploring planets in Mako and bouncing around and shit
>The Great Attractor is a gravity anomaly in intergalactic space within the range of the Hydra-Centaurus Supercluster that reveals the existence of a localized concentration of mass tens of thousands times that of the Milky Way. This mass is observable by its effect on the motion of galaxies and their associated clusters over a region hundreds of millions of light-years across.
What the fuck is it?
You guys want something really scary?
>Hanson's list, while incomplete, describes the following nine steps in an "evolutionary path" that results in the colonization of the observable universe:
>1 The right star system (including organics and potentially habitable planets)
>2 Reproductive molecules (e.g., RNA)
>3 Simple (prokaryotic) single-cell life
>4 Complex (archaeatic and eukaryotic) single-cell life
>5 Sexual reproduction
>6 Multi-cell life
>7 Tool-using animals with big brains
>8 Where we are now
>9 Colonization explosion.
>According to the Great Filter hypothesis at least one of these steps - if the list were complete - must be improbable. If it's not an early step (i.e. in our past), then the implication is that the improbable step lies in our future and our prospects of reaching step 9 (interstellar colonization) are still bleak. If the past steps are likely, then many civilizations would have developed to the current level of the human race. However, none appear to have made it to step 9, or the Milky Way would be full of colonies. So perhaps step 9 is the unlikely one, and the only thing that appears likely to keep us from step 9 is some sort of catastrophe or the resource exhaustion leading to impossibility to make the step due to consumption of the available resources (like for example highly constrained energy resources). So by this argument, finding multicellular life on Mars (provided it evolved independently) would be bad news, since it would imply steps 2–6 are easy, and hence only 1, 7, 8 or 9 (or some unknown step) could be the big problem.
One of the most practical interstellar starship designs involves a gigantic steel vessel propelled by constant thermonuclear detonations.
This is an understandably expensive idea.
Interestingly, Project Orion isn't limited by the detonation technology, but by the rate of thermal radiation to stop the ship melting.
Just so you know, the earth's atmosphere works as a lens so everything we see beyond it is actually much bigger than it appears.
Ever gone to an aquarium and walked through those tubes of glass and thought "holy shit look at the size of that stingray!" Same effect
It's actually about 33% bigger.
Well they should be. All the matter travelling into them are moving in extremely fast and black holes do spin very quickly. Also the matter that falls in is extremely hot just before crossing the event horizon. The problem is that because of the way Black Holes bend space none of the light ever leaves.
It depicts the vastness of space in so far as showing that there's absolutely fuck all to do everywhere else in the universe and that every planet looks the exact fucking same.
Yes but see it like this.
By the Drake equation, we should have seen tracks of another "intelligent" race at our stage, even just in the noise around us.
The Fermi paradox tells us that said Great Filter is most likely past us.
No they don't.
It's just massive gravitational force from a really big object compressed into a really small area under its own weight.
The closest you'll get to being "erased" or "locked up forever" would be the nuclear fusion that happens with that much force pressing atoms together.
>You will never travel into a black hole and be shot out into some other dimension filled with waifus
>why are you so scared of something you'll never see
>black holes have so much force light can't escape them
>literally cannot give off light and are therefore invisible.
THAT is why you're so fucking horrifying.
Many variables have been rounded up to closer-to-life numbers thanksto recent development in extrasolar planet finding. We actually have the numbers instead of guessing them.
See it like this.
If the filter was ahead of us, we'd have seen, by now, civilizations with our own capabilities.
The fact space is so silent means the filter is either behind us, or before the step needed to reach space...
And even at 1/1000th of the speed of light, which is theoretically doable today, we'd have traces of other civilizations.
My money is on the passage from non-organic to organic matter.
That's why I said that matter that makes you wouldn't be "destroyed" just locked up. Matter cannot be created or destroyed, that's one rule that cannot be violated based on physics as we understand them. In the case of a Black Hole matter doesn't go away, it's just locked up behind a horizon of fuck you that nothing can get past. Well you can get past it but you won't live to tell anyone about it
and the fact NOTHING will be able to go into one without dying in the process.. EVER
oh, and the fact that they COMBINE WITH EACH OTHER TO MAKE BIGGER ONES AND EVERYTHING IN OUR UNIVERSE WILL BE DEVOURED BY BLACK HOLES
Hitting a planet so hard that it splits apart?
Absolutely. But it would require several advanced things.
>something that can burrow to the core of a planet and stay intact.
>an explosive capable of cracking the planet in a uniform manner
Cutting a planet with a laser is absolutely retarded though.
>If the filter was ahead of us, we'd have seen, by now, civilizations with our own capabilities.
.. no we wouldn't
we don't have the tech to detect earth-level civs
we can't even see extra-solar planets, we have to just infer their existence via the gravitational wobbles they cause on their star, and we can maybe analyze their atmosphere if we're lucky enough to find one that transits across the star.
we can't detect their radio waves because they become garbled static after a few dozen lightyears
the fact that we haven't seen any earthlike civs yet tells us absolutely nothing about the fermi paradox, it just means it's beyond our capabilities to detect them.
They're a good start and look to become a good feature with more polish and content down the road. That being said, the game still sorely lacks end game content for the playerbase that has put FAR too much time into the game (read: /kspg/) Kill la kill yourself Max
If a black hole grows so massive that it's gravitation pulls the space around itself
Wouldn't it just be erased from the universe completely? Grab a cloth, put a marble ball on it, twist the cloth around it and then lay it on a table. The 2d cloth is our universe, and there's a small twisted hole that leads into the space the marble holds.
>which is theoretically doable today, we'd have traces of other civilizations.
We didn't even know most solar systems had earth-like planets until the last five or so years
And even then, we only have spectronalytical representations of these planets. What, do you think we know what the surface of any non-solar system planet looks like? Do you think we can fucking enhance some Hubble pictures until we can see whether or not there's cars driving around on another planet? The best we can do is figure out the planet's composition based on a few different light-based tests.
Step 9 (colonization explosion) is just as unlikely.
>on the edge of a black hole perception of the passing of time for anything outside the edge itself slows down
>reaches infinite time dilation before touching the black hole itself
>whole galaxies fall into the great attractor
>super massive black hole
>whole universe falls inside its event horizon
>we all live on the edge of our own deaths
>never realize it because time's gonna slow infinitedly
don't watch gravity its just a spooktacular drama with **100% TRUE SCIENCE**
you won't learn shit, have to think about shit, or enjoy it
stick with 2001, its slightly creepy but the major point is the future of humanity. read the book a few days after watching it, really good combo
The idea was that you'd run extremely intensive computations in some region of space so that the computer the level above us starts to choke and glitch out. It's like running an emulator inside an emulator - shit slows down bigtime.
oh, and the fact that they COMBINE WITH EACH OTHER TO MAKE BIGGER ONES AND EVERYTHING IN OUR UNIVERSE WILL BE DEVOURED BY BLACK HOLES
>yfw a Spiral Nemesis could actually happen some day
I was thinking about this actually.
>the big bang suggests that all matter was concentrated into a single point
>black holes are the only thing we know of that come close to being able to do this
>if a black hole absorbs the entire universe would it have enough gravitational force to collapse into itself and cause another big bang?
>has this happened before?
Though it turns out someone beat me to thinking about this and the theory is already named "The Big Crunch"
I haven't seen Gravity, I probably won't unless I'm forced to. I've seen 2001, absolutely loved it.
Last time I wanted to watch a space movie I watched Event Horizon but it turned out to be mediocre and a horror (didn't really want horror). I just want a nice space movie
I disagree with their development methodology or rather the utter lack of one (no, really), but considering that this is their first game things are going amazingly well. They lack foresight, but things should finish up nicely
i prefer the idea that singularities contain universes
the implications of this are:
>we're in a black hole right now
>all other black holes inside our universe contain other "pocket" universes
>this can essentially go on forever creating a sort of infinite fractal multiverse
>click zoom to
>zooming through the unimaginable vastness of the cosmos
>start to slow down
>planet comes up
>getting closer, small dot is getting bigger
>gas giant is huge
>zooming in still, can't abort
>end up in the clouds of some gas giant, can't see shit
Space Engine is far too fucking spooky for me.
the problem with it is that entropy wouldn't reset with each crunch. eventually you'd just get heat death.
yeah I tried drawing it like that but it ended up looking stupid
Alpha of a game where you're a little alien and you explore your little solar system in your little ship.
Controls are balls but it's fun.
What if the simulation wasn't in real time, and playing the simulation for one second equates to billions of years in ours? What if one guy accidentally started up the simulation for just a second and we're living through that right now? Him and some higher-up scientist are looking at each other like "holy shit dude"
Same shit happened to me while I was watching some creepy shit on Youtube. The neighbors facing out my window are like confirmed drug dealers and I thought some shit went down so I ran to my bathtub.
> Implying any of this is real
> Implying this isn't all a simulation
Looks at your hand. In in fuck can you move it?
How do you know you're even on a "planet"? Have you see it at a distance?
No, you fucking haven't.
It's the fucking Patriots
I turned on my computer to play video games. Instead of not doing that, and reading about video games, I'm getting called a neckbeard in a thread about space
>as if this thread didn't inspire me to DL space engine a few minutes ago so it was worth it
>kerbal on wishlist, I'll probably pirate it tonight anyway
The problem with the simulation argument is that, assuming it's true, what difference does it make? How would we realistically "leave" the simulation? At the end of the day, the universe, whether a simulation or not, is bound by defined rules, and the best thing we can do is try our best to learn them.
why does it constantly have to be said that agnosticism and atheism are not mutually exclusive? they do not answer the same question
if carl sagan was someone who didn't know if it possible to know if god exists and also didn't claim that any god actually does exist, then he was an agnostic atheist
It's strange to think that perhaps eventually humans, in an attempt to understand the creation of the universe, will create a physics simulation to recreate it in a computer (or many, most likely). And that simulation may end up being accurate enough to create Earth and its life somewhere inside it.
the setting is space. the plot is based around a problem space poses. it's about whether or not Sandra Bullock can survive a space station collision or some shit. at best you could say its a movie about astronauts. it takes place a few miles off of earth, barely even space
>tfw cruising through space while wearing my oculus rift
>infinite fractal multiverse
I told a stoner friend of mine that all atoms have a huge amount of space between them even though they appear to make a solid object and that an atom has the same general structure of a solar system. Suggested that the universe could be the same thing, each solar system just an atom in an object of some other gigantic universe and our entire universe just one of many solid objects in it.
Blew his drug addled mind.
>The problem with the simulation argument is that, assuming it's true, what difference does it make?
It does in principle make some predictions. Fundamental constraints on computation mean that there's a limit to how many recursive levels of simulation we can have. If we figure out that the math says you can only have at most (say) 10 levels running, and we do the experiment and find we can only manage 6, then that's evidence in favor of us being the 4th level down from the root universe.
It also has some interesting implications for anthropic arguments and decision theory problems.
People still like Pluto, dwarf star or not. We sent a probe up there for the sole purpose of taking pictures of it (the only thing we really know about it is that it has a highly differenciated albedo like Triton and nitrogen ice)
Perhaps the reason why we haven't heard of other civilizations is that trying to reach other solar systems requires us to do something that sets in motion one of those many doomsday theories.
Like the hypothesis of going faster than light by shrinking the space in front of a space craft and expanding it behind to "push" it past the speed of light.
>play space engine to relax, zipping though the universe and generally bullshitting and exploring
>watch startrek: into darkness
>that warp drive chase scene
>people vented into space at ftl speeds
>haven't opened space engine in almost a week since
Anyone got a link to that youtube video about going inside a black hole?
The one where the narrator gets more and more freaked out as one gets closer and goes calm when reaching the singularity.
>play all 3
>The game won't feel vast if you can get from point a to point b in a matter of seconds or minutes.
>If you make it so that traveling is really slow it can become tedious, very much so.
>And there's still the issue of the amount of content the game would have.
Nah, you can make that work. You just have to make the interactions with planets VERY exciting, and the in-between stuff interesting too.
If I made it, you'd have this fantastic ship that could land multiple times on other planets (like something out of Star Wars). You'd need to manage logistics like fuel by refueling at gas giants. You'd choose your crew and interact with them, forming relationships and managing crew tensions in between planets. While in transit, you can also design new rovers, mining equipment, weapons, suits, etc, depending on what you collected from your previous planet visit. Collecting scientific data and streaming it back to earth gets you further funding and the possibility to have more food and crew dropped out to you. Collecting raw resources on planets allows you to build the aforementioned upgrades. You also get the pleasure of documenting all the creatures and plants of any life-filled planet you find.
For extra long trips (between solar systems) you go into cryostasis (essentially making it instantaneous). When you wake up, you have to fix things that have broken down while in transit (which requires resources). Then while in solar systems there is no fast travel.
Sleeping, eating, washing, etc are all required for happiness and moral. So for example, imagine you come out of cryostasis and all the showers are broken, so now your crew [especially the women] are getting more and more cranky until you find the resources you need to fix the showers. You'll need to diffuse tensions and keep shit going until you land on a local barren planet and mine the rare earth metal needed to fix the shower's control chip.
ITT: Shit that will never happen
:^\, I'm getting too old for this place
>Fundamental constraints on computation mean that there's a limit to how many recursive levels of simulation we can have.
These constraints are, by the very nature of the supposed scale of a computer or device capable of running our universe, completely null and void.
No, seriously, you're going to sit here and tell me our current limits of computing apply in the universe where running a perfect universe simulation is feasible?