Is there a game that truly conveys the vastness of deep space?
Elite
You'll get a bunch of replies about Space Engine, but I've never played it, so I can't really comment about it.
Kerbal Space Program
No Man's Sky
void machinery
>>255038812
Vastness: Deep Space
>>255038903
>space engine
>play
Doom 3.
>>255038903
>>255038812
Yeah, space engine does a fantastic job of it.
It's not really a game though.
Daily reminder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3fqE01YYWs
ur mums vagina
>>255039063
>“If you were to visit one virtual planet every second then our own sun will have died before you’d have seen them all.”
>>255039176
what the fuck is this image
seriously
>>255038812
actually Homeworld 1/2 has some crazy skyboxes that give a sense of immensity
>>255038812
Imagine if you were granted invincibility and someone shrunk Jupiter to the size of a watermelon and you put your dick inside of Jupiter and you could feel its gravitational pull and high velocity storms surging through every inch of your cock. In the future they should make shrunken planets into the new fleshlights and the best part is that you don't really need to clean it up and the shrunken planets would make a nice decoration.
>>255038812
Asteroids
>>255039103
This.
/v/ always goes batshit insane about Gone Home (which is a decent game) and calls it a movie and space engine is PURE UNINTERESTING WALKING FROM POINT A TO POINT FUCKING B.
Seriously that's all you do.
Space engine is even less of a video game than Gone home.
Space Engine.
Go to Earth, click on a random star in the background, and travel to it. Then try to get back to Earth without using the search function or looking at the names of stars/planets you click on.
Then if you manage to do that, do the same thing from across the galaxy.
And if by some slim chance you're able to do that, travel to another galaxy and try it.
Destiny from the makers of the acclaimed Halo series are aiming to do just that with their new AAA franchise.
>>255039176
loljupiter
Welcome to hell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFFGdTI9KeA
>>255039359
At least it's not about gay people.
>>255039489
Woah, the creators of Halo are making a new game? When does it come out and for what platforms?
>>255039176
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_LChpv_Dc0
>>255039601
Yeah because something is wrong about gay people.
Douchebag.
>>255039359
>which is a decent game
>>255039489
>>255039624
This isn't funny.
Aurora.
After you spend a few days learning how to play it.
>>255039359
It's a simulator, so what. With the new features the guy is going to add it's becoming more and more of an actual game.
>>255039359
Neither of them are games. However, fuck you if you don't think space is the tightest shit.
I can't believe you're honestly trying to compare walking around a boring house picking up boring journal entries to flying around space in a way humanity will never, ever get to experience in reality.
Aurora. You'll realize how vast space is when your exploration ship is at 10% fuel while billions of kilometers away from the jump point leading back to civilization.
>>255039359
>point a to point b
>point b is anything
le hook line fish
>>255039994
>in a way humanity will never, ever get to experience in reality.
Fuck you nigga
>>255040000
Jesus christ that ui
>>255039489
That's the one where the advertising budget is $500 million? Or was that a different game Activision siphoned money off WoW for?
>>255039359
It's a fucking space simulation, what did you expect, nigger?
>>255040146
They don't call it Dwarf Fort in space for nothing.
Do you like spreadsheets? There are plenty of those too.
>>255039813
>>255040000
This is a grand strategy game, right?
I keep hearing that it truly is a spreadsheet simulator, but games with that kind of depth and scale are interesting
>>255040326
I thought SS13 was supposed to be DF in space. Or, like DF Adventure mode or something.
>>255040326
what the fuck is this shit m8
Microsoft Excel: Space Edition or what
>>255039359
It's a simulation. It's free. It has TECHNOLOGY.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN7P1zZKlMM
Dumb cunt.
So I'm just going out on a limb here, but Space Engine isn't really low end machine friendly is it?
>>255038812
i would say dota 2 which is literally deeper than deep space you could fill the entire space with water and if u tried to go to the bottom of the ocean it would still not be as deep as dota 2
>>255040326
How have you not succumbed to bugs yet.
>>255040591
The Chris Farley selection on Netflix fucking sucks.
Should I watch Airheads or Wayne's World? Seen them both, but not in over 15 years.
>>255040432
Yep. There's also Distant Worlds Universe for people who aren't autistic and prefer their games with graphics.
>>255040485
SS13 would be Adventure Mode. Aurora is Fortress Mode.
>>255040539
That's precisely what it is.
>>255040965
>Farley
Tommy Boy nigga. The answer is always Tommy Boy.
>>255040968SS13 standalone when?
>>255040927
I'm using Aurora Portable, which is pretty damn stable. I uploaded it to mega a few days ago for some other anon. I can give you the link if you want.
>>255041295NEVER
>>255041093
But I watched that a few months ago. It is fucking great.
>You don't know me as good as you think you do. I care about stuff.
>>255041739
I wish they had Beverly Hills Ninja...
>>255041295
Eventually, fellow spaceman. Have faith.
Elite: Dangerous
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGupxOG853I
>that deliciously real sun
>>255041848
That and Black Sheep.
I mean, it's easy as fuck to pirate them, but it would still be convenient.
>>255041739
In my opinion Almost Heroes was his last great movie
>>255038812
Eve Online
>>255039359
Degenerates like you have no right to exist.
Trying to explain just how big even one galaxy is is almost impossible. It's hard for people to imagine numbers even as large as a million, let alone a trillion or higher, as anything other than conceptual.
Trying to explain how large the universe is is actually impossible since it's expanding and some parts of it are actually far enough away that the light from them hasn't reached us yet. It might not even be finite.
>>255042991
Reminder that there's a number so long that it could not possibly fit in the universe.
>>255040915
Just on ram
>>255039359
Maybe because it's not marketed as a game
Maybe because it's not sold as a game
Maybe because it's actually not shit
Maybe because it's not actually a game
Maybe because it's actually an ENGINE
>>255039359
that's because one is about space and one is a cheap imitation of the life time movie of the week
imagine falling through this
>reality is just a bunch of rocks and gas floating around giant explosions
>>255043627
you would be crushed
>>255038812
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journey_to_Alpha_Centauri_%28In_Real_Time%29
this
>>255043684
What would happen if a giant explosion of fire crashed into a giant explosion of ice?
>>255043751
I'm way too casual for this.
>>255043627
That would be a pretty amazing experience, falling through denser layers of gas until you reach the zone where gravity crushes you or the wind kills you
>>255043684
>implying you're not in a matrix right now
>>255043894
You would freeze to death or suffocate in seconds. Neptune's temperature is well below the coldest temperature on Earth.
>>255043627
The upper winds would tear you apart before you'd reach anything lower than 100km.
>>255044054
Well, I was assuming you'd be in a space suit or equivalent so that you don't just die instantly
>>255044015
Didn't some science-types come up with the actual likelihood that reality is a simulation?
>>255043627
Imagine looking out the window of a spaceship and this taking up your entire view
>tfw this will never be possible in our lifetime, or multiple lifetimes after ours
>>255044296
"Space suits are magical and give you god mode so you can just experience anything you want XD" - neo-/v/
>>255043627
STOP
Gas giants fucking terrify me.
>>255044410
>neo-/v/
Stop that.
>>255044410
>>255044410
Why are you being like this? You know what he means.
>>255043627
Would it theoretically be possible to have two or more Earth like planets orbiting around a gas giant, thus enabling aliens without massive distances ruining my fun?
Space is shit. There is literally nothing in it. You can explore more diverse shit on Earth than in space.
>>255044636
Can gas giants exist close enough to a star to support life?
>>255044339
i don't know about the actual likelihood, but it is interesting at least to think about
if you have an article or something please link it
>>255044709
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_jupiter
>>255044339
Really? How come?
>mfw the machines already won
>>255044481
Gas giants are bretty cool though.
>Jupiter famous red spot storm that is going on for 300-400 years is large enough to contain 2-3 earth like planets
>>255044668
You're right. There's literally nothing in space.
That's why we look at the stuff that's floating around in space instead of space itself.
>>255044826
Then I don't see why not.
Reminds me of the simulation in the elemists or however that shit is spelled chronicles from the anamorphs series where the two bird people each have a species they influence
>>255044668
>russians are mad they never made it to another celestial body
Escape Velocity Nova
A little text heavy but the gameplay is top top drawer
A little bit old tho
>>255044739
Sorry, but I can't seem to find it now if I ever even did read such a thing. Might have been a dreamor an article on Crackedor something.
>>255044904
>2-3
Did it get smaller? When I was a kid, they were saying 6.
My favorite planet is the one where it rains molten glass that was on the news a while back
>>255045240
It actually has been shrinking a bit over the years, but not on that scale.
>>255044857
If quantum computing becomes a thing and you can make a 1:1 simulation of the universe, and that simulation includes the simulation and that one does too and so on, the odds are increasingly against us being 'on top', or the real world.
>>255040139
It hurts
>>255044857
Apparently there's some evidence that MIGHT indicate that we're all just living in a simulation. I don't think it's like a Matrix scenario, though. We'd all just be computer programs for research purposes. I managed to find and skim an article or two. No idea how reputable they are.
http://news.discovery.com/space/are-we-living-in-a-computer-simulation-2-121216.htm
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/16/opinion/sunday/is-the-universe-a-simulation.html
>>255045486
Would that mean we could play god with the simulation?
>>255045734
Depends. I doubt we'd have 'free will' if the sim was truly 1:1, so it depends on whether or not the guys on top wanted to fuck about for our sake.
Who else is hyped for the James Webb Space Telescope?
>>255045734
Sure, I guess
>>255045734
Why not?
>>255038812
>open paint
>fill with black
>make a few white pixels
This is how it would look like. Yes, a still image. You can stare at it and have that game of yours.
>>255045945
>>255045994
w-would it be ethical?
>>255041321
Please do.
>>255046084
When it comes to it, does it really matter?
>>255046220
https://mega.co.nz/#!xkgk3SjZ!iTUDuopI4FFP0sccfkOgvpMWliJ09GpIJILRkCYMPyw
Here you go friend.
Fair warning, you'll have to launch using AW_Aurora instead of Aurora.
>>255039589
>>255039176
>>255039646
What does Earth sound like?
>>255046434
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AVHXMLDvWA
>>255046419
Thank you. How should I go about learning how to play?
>>255039359
>Gone Home
>Hyped up as the greatest fucking story ever told when it's complete generic garbage
>Space Engine
>It's treated as what it is, a really cool space simulator with lots of detail
>HURR /V/ WHY YOU SO HYPOCRITE
Fuck off retard
>>255046434
A shitload of static probably. Alternatively, whatever radio station is in range. There are tons of man-made electromagnetic signals coming off this rock.
>>255046434
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-zpOMYRi0w
>>255046434
An endless expanse of people fucking, people jacking off, people dying, and the remainder being stuff on TV being movies and music with a bit of wind thrown in for that natural feel
>>255046084
Probably not.
>>255046279
Does killing people matter? If you can make an exact replica of the universe, its inhabitants would be thinking, living creatures.
>>255046560
http://pastebin.com/62BnVJsC
The required reading shows you some of the mechanics of the game in action, along with being interesting to read in general. That and the wiki helped me figure the game out.
More than anything, treat it like a roguelike. Fuck up, learn from your mistakes, then apply that knowledge to your next game.
>>255046653
I wonder how aliens 50 light years away are reacting to our radio signals now?
Not many games will make you feel like in the vast deepness of space.
Space Engine IS vast, but there's not much to do other than watch.
You can try Space Engineers if that's your kinda thing too.
The problem with a game that has good gameplay and a story that makes sense etc can't adjust to the scope of an entire galaxy without recurring to stuff like warp gates or whatever, thus eliminating the "vastness" feel of the game.
If you can get engrossed in the lore, sure, but otherwise not much you can do regarding that.
One game that I did like a lot that was really big was Freelancer, even if there were the jump gates and all the systems were actually really big themselves.
>>255043751
It's like the Penn and Teller bus driving simulator for the Sci Fi crowd.
>>255046889
They're dismissing the radio waves as a weather balloon
>>255046889
They aren't. TV and radio shows don't survive intact past a certain distance.
Homeworld
Freelancer
Mass Effect 1
>>255038812
>being this new
Also this is literally my face when people are jizzin over tumblr tint man's sky because "space exploration like this has neer been done before"
>>255046880
Alright, thanks.
>>255046880
Meant for
>>255046612
My bad.
>>255046990
>Space IS vast, but there's not much to do other than watch.
The truth strikes once again.And I hate the truth for it.
You will never experience the true vastness of space if you can cross light years worth of distance in two seconds on your tiny screen in your basement.
>>255046990
That's one hurdle I wish we could get over. The beautiful thing about space is that it's unthinkably huge. So huge if you lost your cars keys in it you'd almost never find them again. The bad part is that means that traveling through space means unthinkably long times of traveling through nothing. Literally
>>255047178
You're not excited for No Man's Sky?
>>255046774
>Does killing people matter? If you can make an exact replica of the universe, its inhabitants would be thinking, living creatures.
To them, but to us, they're just the subjects of a simulation. No different to watching Sims really, just really intelligent ones.
Just imagine how much data you could get from a simulation like this; ridiculously realistic data, and you can subject the inhabitants to whatever you wish, ethical or not.
>Watch Planetes a few days ago
>Realize I'll never see any real space exploration progress in my lifetime
>tfw I as born too late to see the moon landing and too soon to see a Mars landing and beyond.
>>255047528
The desaturation is actually putting my autismad propeller to the maximum
>>255047773What if you weren't?
>>255047773
check this shit out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQnR5fhCXkQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEQrmDoIRO8
>>255045839
>yfw they only created our simulation to see if it was possible and they now believe they are also a simulation
>>255047773
At least you got to see scientists draw a penis on Mars
>>255047830
I'm afraid I don't know what that means.
>>255045872
I am
>play kerbal space program for the first time
>terrible at it
>decide to look at mods
>download a booster that has insane thrust and uses very little fuel
>shoot my rocket up
>dont know how to enter orbit or how to get to the moon, just aim at the moon and engage thrusters
>pass moon, cant get to it
>leave earths orbit
>dont know how to increase speed
>hurtling through the emptiness of space
>run out of fuel
>mfw
I've never had a video game fill me with so much dread before. I was actually sick to my stomach and didnt play ksp again for 6 months.
Darkstar One
>>255047402
But it can't really be done.
The game won't feel vast if you can get from point a to point b in a matter of seconds or minutes.
If you make it so that traveling is really slow it can become tedious, very much so.
And there's still the issue of the amount of content the game would have.
Mass Effect 1 & 2 for example did have quite some content in them, but the games didn't feel vast, they didn't feel like a true world.
We have to make a choice, realism or entertainment.
Just ask yourself this, if Space Engine had a speed limit such as light speed, would you play it? I know I would but it would be very limited, too limited. It would take us six minutes to go from earth to the sun, at lightspeed. The game would loose all it's purpose.
AYY LMAO HUEHUEHE ALIEUMS
xdddd EBIN SIMBLY EIN
>>255047039
I pretty sure they do in the void.
>Think space is terrifying, especially black holes.
>Play Space Engine for the first time, in fullscreen too.
>Looking at space, then click a random spot.
>I start traveling to it at light speed.
>It stops me right infront of a black hole.
>NOPE.
>Jump out of my seat a bit, shout for a quick second and immediately exit out of the game.
>mfw
KSP is alright
>>255048018
Where do I get to watch some mars recordings?
Mass Effect 1 conveyed the vastness of our own galaxy with all of those freeroaming planets.
>>255047773
>>Realize I'll never see any real space exploration progress in my lifetime
You do realize that the moon is hollow, and that the Russians have planned a permanent moonbase there in 2030s, right?
>yfw Cosmonauts digging through the upper layer into the cavernswake up an ancient evil
>>255038812
The planet sounds recordings sound like Fallout 1 and 2's soundtrack.
>>255048447
>You do realize that the moon is hollow
>>255048223
Electromagnetic signals degrade in power over distance.
>>255048102
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkDOOsGg-9I
;_;
>>255046747
>Humanity invents faster than light travel
>Meets alien races
>Gets invited into space UN
>Works hard and makes great strides for our opinion among the other races
>Become highly respected; other aliens wish to be like us
>Our wisdom is respected even by the greys
>Eventually, all our shitty media makes it's way to the other planets
>Aliens snicker at us behind our backs
>Banned from all the cool alien space things
>We become the laughing stock of the galaxy
>Have to move to another galactic cluster and make up a new identity
>>255048102
You don't know shit
>exploring space
>accidentally find black hole
>>255048494
NOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPE
YOU CAN'T FOOL ME, I SAW THE BENDING OF LIGHT
>>255047773
there's nothing on mars.
sorry.
>>255048494
>click on a star on the other end of the galaxy for the first time
>shit my self
>>255044668
>Deep sea apologists
Get out.
>>255048817
Why is it so lumpy?
>>255041295
>SS13 standalone comes out
>the RPers aren't interested because they want social interaction
>the shitters aren't interested because there's no one to grief
>the only people that leave are the ones robust at their work and enjoy running the station
>ss13 multiplayer dies shortly after because no one can stop ERPing and griefing long enough to start up the power
>>255047550
PCP
Planet.....Cheese Pizza
>>255047178
We have this thread every fucking saturday, you raging newfag.
>>255048937
Gravity isn't powerful enough to contain it in a spherical shape.
>>255048817
Do such things exist?
>>255048494
Fuck i'm easily spooked
>>255039252
its nothing.
its suppost to be hitler and Ava braun but its jsut some made up copy pasta.
>>255048652
This is the galactic equivalent of someone googling you and finding old forum accounts from when you were 12.
>>255048494
Light, space, and gravity are so fucking weird.
>Once you start getting close to the speed of light your vision begins to expand. Not because of your eyes but because you're beginning to "catch up" with the light coming from behind you
Fucking wat?
>>255048494
>Every time you press shify+g on a galaxy
>>255045682
Not very reputable. There is a link to one published paper (which doesn't always mean it is credible) but it is mainly hypothetical shit. That discovery article makes it sounds more like philosophy than science.
>>255038812
don't use your warp drive in eve.
>>255048494
>gravitational lens
you can't fool me black hole, I know you're in this thread
>>255046434
faggotry.
>>255039176
Damn, Jupiter makes for an amazing dark ambient band.
>>255049428
> on the internet no one knows you're a black hole
>>255048026
I"ll take a crack at it.
The game is just going to be the same 10 planets with minor differences over and over again. Unlike real life where this is probably the case but amazingly interesting, NOS is just going to be stale and uninteresting after the first 10 hours.
>>255048262
In Space Engine if you select the Milky Way for fast travel it send you straight to the center of it.
There you suddenly found yourself facing a supermasssive blackhole surrounded by so many stars there's almost no void to be seen.
Except for that huge motherfucker in the middle of all, the blinding darkness at the center of all light.
>>255048494
There's something very primal about the fear of a black hole, yet nobody should ever have seen one in real life.
>>255039359
>>255046747
Dis fucking nigga, I laughed harder than I should have.
>Distant alien listening in to different radio waves as they travel through the universe in an attempt to find intelligent life
>"i'm so fancy... you already know" woshes by in a low volume
>>255049710
Just think. Black holes are actually extremely bright. You just can't see it.
>>255049632
>Black holes are lonely. So whenever something comes near black holes are incapable of letting go
>>255039223
What a dumb statement of course you won't since everything is procedurally generated
It's the same as you will die before you can count to infinity
>>255049668
Dev claims that this will not be the case, but we'll have to wait and see, I guess. I really hope it's good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgg2tpUVbXQ
>>255048658
>Playing space engine
>messing around with the speed hotkeys and realize i can go over the regular speed limit
>traverse the whole universe in a second
>speed keeps going up
>wont stop
>cant control myself zipping from one end of the universe to the other so quickly
>fly so far away can't see any galaxies
>total blackness
>no sense of direction at all, no hope of finding home
>feel like throwing up and uninstall
>>255049884
Will Wright claimed Spore would be amazing. Then EA gutted it for profit.
Devs lie anon. Devs mislead. A developers primary function is to get their game in the hands of others, not be your mommy.
>>255048494
>>255048494
Black holes aren't all that bad really. They're far away from earth and don't bug anyone, they also get rid of pesky run away space light and debris, why are you all scared of something you'll never see?
>>255048817
Pic related is similar, but from the point of view of a moon of a planet like that
>>255049801
Seriously why the fuck is that? Do we all instinctively know that in the far end we will be swallowed by one?
>>255049801
Well Black Holes are the closest thing you can get to Hell in the natural world. Most people think of space and time as infallible and never changing and black holes are a gigantic "fuck you" to that notion.
I mean really imagine if you fell into a supermassive black hole and you had just long enough to consider your situation. What would be your final thoughts as you realized that everything you were may as well have been erased from the natural world?
>>255049428
Why are you so fucking afraid of black holes?
The chances of coming into contact with one are so slim.
>>255048102Kerbals never die unless they expload.the kerbal you sent up is eternally drifting in the vastness of spaceForever.
>>255050068
Is there something wrong with hoping a game will be good?
>>255050141
GEE I WONDER WHO'S BEHIND THIS POST
>>255039359
No one calls Space Engine a game. If you want to witness the scale of the universe in an interactive manner it's a great tool. It scares the life out of me to play it.
>>255050152
Our Sun doesn't have the mass to become a black hole.
>Sun expands swallows Earth in it's death
>Sun expands doesn't swallow Earth and everything freezes
Pretty lucky considered how deadly the Universe is.
>>255050141
> you'll never seeit comming
>>255050268
Absolutely not. But there's something sad about seeing people get baited by the same old shit. NOS is going to be average and quickly forgotten.
>start Noctis IV for the first time
>land on a cratered planet right beside a supermassive white star
>can't see shit
>don't know how to activate night vision
>some sort of wind blows me away into the darkness
>don't know how to call the lander
>realize later I was literally walking on lava
NOPE
>>255050026
This actually happened to me. The sense of helplessness you feel when you realize there is nothing else is really weird considering it's just a computer program.
>>255048658
>decide to visit another solar system
>calculate the timing and thrust vectors to get there in the least amount of fuel
>all goes smoothly
>engage FTL travel
>hop into cryostasis for the year long trip
>get woken up exactly a year later
>no planet in sight
>check the flight logs
>trajectory shows you flew only a few hundred thousand kilometres from a black hole
>its gravitational pull bent your flight path and sent you off on a tangent into unmapped space
>realise the reason why you weren't allerted was because when you're travelling faster than light by the time something is visible you have already passed through it
>decelerate to near light speed
>enjoy the view
>>255050242This will always be the case because the KSP devs are incompetent shitters and will never fucking finish the game
>>255038812
Maybe star citizen
It's gonna be huge as a project and focus is on space, so ..
>>255039176
>electromagnetic vibrations
light.
wow so creepy oh gosh.
>>255049956
>we'll miss you Pluto
>>255043684
Some rocks are the most terrifying objects in existence. Cthulhu got nothing on a Quasar.
>>255050330
I fucking lost it.
>>255050161
I don't think even a black hole can erase the fact that rabdin some girl bent over for me today so I could take upskirt photo of her
Conflict freespace 1 and 2
>>255050161
That's true oblivion, how terrifying.
>>255050369But what if it ends up being good?Oh who am I kidding I said the same thing about GTA V
>>255050161
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16885-what-would-it-look-like-to-fall-into-a-black-hole.html#.U9REYPldUk0
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/BlackHoles/fall_in.html
Scary shit.
>>255050732
heists any day anon. any day.
>>255050339
The Earth will burn either way. Either the Sun will swallow it and there will be no evidence it ever existed. Or it won't and everything will melt and burn to a crisp anyway and the only corpse will be a burnt piece of charcoal.
>>255050152
Here's some fun reading
http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/jun/HQ_12-182_Chandra_Black_Hole_Ejected.html
>There are potentially billions of Supermassive Black holes floating around right now moving at trillions of miles per hour
>They are completely unseen and undetectable until they begin to feed
>There could be one on its way here right now
>If there were there wouldn't be a single thing we could do about it
>>255050239
>slim
>literally 0%
>>255050161
Nah, when you get in a Blackhole you don't die because past the EH time stops,you'd live for ever.
Space Citizen anyone?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex5jBQtS13w
>>255050893
What if those Hadron guys make one?
>>255050141
>Black holes aren't that bad, really
Fucking celestial bodies posting on /v/ now?
You can't fool me.
>>255051007
>Nah, when you get in a Blackhole you don't die because past the EH time stops,you'd live for ever.
>past the EH time stops,you'd live for ever
i think it's retarded how people can have ideas like this (that aren't even necessarily "wrong" according to physics) and not think our current idea of "time" is broken.. what the fuck
>>255050161
>What would be your final thoughts as you realized that everything you were may as well have been erased from the natural world?
What do you mean? Isn't that just death?
>>255051126
It would consist only of the mass of the materials used to make it. it would be a heavy object for its size for a bit and then it would dissipate into Hawking radiation.
>>255050716
I probably should've just read the date at the bottom to realize what was up instead of Googling it.
>>255050538
the scary thing is that it can
every electron that would have ever been affected by that would be wiped from existence, essentially erasing the information from existence
>>255050883
>a supermassive black hole can actually get kicked out of it's host galaxy
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK
>>255051126
Not gonna happen
>>255039259
I would argue they nailed the cold lonely isolation that is is a product of the immensity of space.
O
>>255051126
>people actually believed the Hadron would create a Blackhole that would destroy the Earth
It's amazing how dumb the average person is.
>>255051205
Millions of microscopic ones that evaporate, yeah.
>>255051126
You mean make a black hole by smashing a couple of particles together? They're not collapsing an entire star there
>>255050615
Black holes really are the embodiment of the word "oblivion." People say "well if we could build a machine that could move faster than light then we're good." But that's not how space works. Gravity literally bends and dents the actual space you exist in. And in a black hole space is bent to such a degree that space itself is "falling" into the center. There is no such "left," "right," "up," or "away." The only direction that exists inside a black hole is "down." Literally. No matter which direction you travel at the speed of light you can only go "down" to the center.
If it weren't for the fact that black holes were so far away they'd be the ultimate nightmare fuel
>>255051007
>>255051340
>you will never know what it feels like to be a member of SG-10.
>>255051348
Yeah, sure, until it sucked up a paperclip and then a stapler and then an office chair and then the whole universe.
I know how this shit works. I'm not an idiot.
>>255051117
Jesus Christ I'm subscribed to this guy on youtube.
>>255051406
Oh my. FYI that picture is from the Solar Dynamics Observatory run by NASA.
>>255050339
>Pretty lucky considered how deadly the Universe is.
you've got that right.
>there could be a planet sized asteroid propelled from a distant supernova going near the speed of light heading in our direction right now
>we'd never see it coming
>one day it would hit the earth and blow it to pieces
>the impact so fast and destructive we wouldn't even notice
>one day, we'd just cease to exist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_naQhynOg0
>>255048494
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kVsxVBz1Mg
>>255048817
jesus christ, everytime i rewatch this and the star gets in view i get an ASMR tingle in my neck
>>255051679
fucking beautiful
>>255051679
At the scale we're talking the paperclip would have much more mass than the black hole and neither would have the mass required to absorb another object.
We need to get to Mars quick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTwRxtmQ9IY
>>255051340
We know our idea of time and space is wrong because of shit like black holes. But the problem is that it's the best we got at the moment and we don't have anything to replace it. Until another Albert Einstien comes along with an idea that's a bit closer to how it actually works.
>>255051841
The universe is just on vast cosmic Detroit/Chicago
>>255047773
>watch Planetes
>get horribly fucking annoyed by the whiny protag
>stop watching
Gurl was 10/10 though.
also
>mars landing
>implying mankind will ever permamently leave earth with the current space race funding
>>255051117
Oh god the credits
>>255051841
Asteroids? What about fucking Gamma Ray Bursts? Remember that scare that WR-104 was going to kill us all?
> CTLR F
> EVE
/v/ confirmed for not knowing shit about video games
>mfw string theory
>>255052179
EVE players confirmed for too fucking stupid to read the thread
>>255047773
you never know anon, maybe just maybe, we'll live to see mars colonization
>>255052179
You are confirmed for being blind.
DayZ
so vast and full of nothing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e5-0t0pTF0
Are there more things like this?
Dont care how pleb it is, i just like music + science.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vst6DXDnzKw
>>255050330
But can you really get behind it?
>>255051841
There are no planet sized asteroids, something that big would be a planet. Something that large also wouldn't survive a supernova fully intact, and would certainly not reach speeds near the speed of light.
I hope that alleviates some of your fears.If you want to be scared look up gamma ray bursts
>>255052259
Quantum Theory is some weird shit too
>>255038903
Wow, that was a really helpful comment.
>>255052259
fucking stringcist
>>255052320
Try Altis on Arma 3. It's even bigger and filled iwth nothingness.
>>255039359
>Space engine is even less of a video game than Gone home.
But Space Engine doesn't even pretend to be a game.
It even has "ENGINE" in the fucking title.
>>255052458
Thanks, man. I'm still in this thread, too, shitting it all up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1Yi58jtNdY
>>255052179
It doesn't do scale on a universal level well, ship scales are lovely when you meet a Titan. You can fly from planet to planet at a decent speed with a sanic fit Vagabond/Dramiel/Stiletto.
>>255052368
[spoilers]Shouldn't he be scared of the fact that a small asteroid can vaporize the shit out of him anyway, and they go near the earth unnoticed all the time?[/spoilers]
>>255050141
can someone screencap this an draw a picture of a black hole posting on /v/?
>>255052509
What was she trying to say there?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_vacuum#Vacuum_metastability_event
>>255052645
Not this time
>tfw Jupiter shows up
>>255052259
>doesn't understand physics
>>255052692
I'm trying but it keeps eating the computer.
>>255052375
Quantum theory is one of the most successful theories we have. The problem with string theory is it has no experimental evidence, or any currently testable hypothesis as far I know. It sounds cool but that is about it so far.
What is dark matter?
>>255044904
Does anyone else ever feel physically sick when you really think about how massive some objects in our solar system are compared to earth? Let alone how small we are on an intragalactic scale.
>>255051126
Black holes are just large objects. So large that their gravity has caused them to collapse upon their own weight. So strong is this force that not even light can escape it. It consumes light. Sucks the fastest moving thing in the universe in and leaves only blackness. Even at its fringes light cannot pass, an object moving behind it simply eternally redshifting but otherwise frozen in time.
>>255051841
shit wrong video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pfwY2TNehw
>>255052692
I would, but I think I'm going to sleep instead since it's early morning over here already.
>>255052938
Not necessarily dark or matter.
>>255052692
black holes only postt in threads on page 11.
>>255052885
Perfectly fine but I wouldn't want it living next to me.
>>255051439
>yfw an insanely huge mecha battle is going on somewhere in our galaxy where black holes are merely superweapons like our nukes
>>255050141
>NSA doesn't bother anyone
>they get rid of pesky terrorists and bad people
>why are you all scared of something you'll never see?
>>255048494
Semi related note:
>fuck around in Space Engine
>type in some coordinates, or use Go To on some very distant star, can't remember
>black screen
>well shit bugged out
>noticed that I move with like a thousand of speeds of light and only speeding up
>still black screen, wat
>suddenly burst of light, move through universe at sanic speed, can't see anything clear
>after like a minute of madness it slows down and zooms in on the previously chosen star
>realise I just went outside of the universe, think of the scale of the distance I crossed to get to that star
>Alf+F4, cry myself to sleep
>>255052645
>Doves
Space got good tastes.
Also, I have recurring dreams where some planet fills all or almost all of the entire horizon. Usually Jupiter or Saturn. And it usually rotates at a disturbing rate. I always find myself clinging to the ground for some reason.
>>255052997
mean to reply to >>255052885
>>255052341
Symphony of Science is an album, do some research on what you're posting before you ask someone else to.
>>255052762
At least you can demonstrate physics
>>255052938
I felt that way after looking at the galactic filaments. But that was back in my teenage years when I felt life was pointless
>>255052885
Kirby's worst enemy.
>>255050141
>>255052859
thanks for that, anon.
>>255052938
yup
>>255052885
We don't really know. Look up Cold Dark Matter theory for the best current ideas.
>>255052674
The Earth's atmosphere takes care of most space debris.
>>255052259
How does all this theoretical shit play into modern everyday life again?
>>255053156
I meant other than Symphony of Science, apologies for being unclear.
>>255052885
No one knows. Just like no one knows what Dark Energy is. It's basically a name given to things in space that we can't really explain.
We run the numbers and see that the galaxies do not have enough gravity to hold themselves together for the speed they're spinning at. But we don't know what's making the extra gravity or where it's coming from. So we just call it Dark Matter until we can figure out what it is. We see that the expansion of space isn't slowing down, it's actually speeding up and we don't know where the extra energy is coming from. So we call it Dark Energy until we can figure out what it is.
>>255044904
jupiter use to be my favorite planet growing up until i found out it was made entirely of gas and that we'd never be able to visit its surface.
>>255052938
I feel despair. Astronomical distances mean that the human race is essentially fucked. No sci-fi warp speed bullshit, no alien neighbours, just humans and their little rock until we die out.
>>255053559
Fucking Mass Effect used to be cool, what the hell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MmWeZHsQzs
>>255053425
What exactly do you mean? We need scientific theories to explain experiment and observation so that we can apply our knowledge.
In the case of string theory it doesn't really do much right now, since it can't be tested right now.
>>255053612
With that fucking attitude, yeah
>>255053612
There are plenty of stars we could reach with a few years or decades had we the appropriate (plausible) propulsion systems.
Hell, there might even be earth-sized planets there.
>>255053327
>>255053829
We do, we just don't have the funding.
>>255053612
We've always got Mars, right? Give it a few centuries and we'll have some guys there. We'll have a pal in the universe.
>>255052885
Dark matter is like regular matter (atoms and shit we can touch etc) except it doesn't interact with regular matter. What's really interesting is that it does interact with gravity.
So when a bunch of dark matter and regular dust come by a planet for example, they are both pulled in the same way but the dust collides with the planet and burns up in its atmosphere while the dark matter passes through it.
That's about the limit of what we know that I can explain though.
>>255052259
Same, I still like it because big things are cool, though. Neptune, though, that's a fucking planet.
>>255048102
good thing you don't know about the deep space kraken
>>255046560
>Start watching this
>It's dark in my room
>LOUD BANG
>scared shitless
>It's some fucking hicks illegally shooting fireworks near my house
fuk
>>255052938
I'm the opposite. I feel such awe and amazement at how enormous the universe is and all the gigantic things in it. Those feeling got me interested in science as a career.
>>255039684
>Yeah because something is wrong about gay people.
Yes, the fact that they are gay?
>>255053896
We do? Because Voyager 1 left Earth in 1972 and it's only just now leaving our Solar System. And it's not even close to halfway close to Alpha Centauri
>>255053929
Martians is good people.
>>255053673
They stopped caring about the space portion of their space opera.
>>255049145
underrated post
>>255053559
Dont worry, we will live on its moons and enjoy the view.
>>255053451
It's just autotuned speeches from scientists set to a beat.
So no, I don't think so.
hello ladies
>>255053124
There's this dream I have every now and then:
>wake up in the middle of the night
>walk to kitchen (its small+massive window with a view of a car park)
>look outside and there are no buildings or anything, just a flat horizon as far as the eye can see and those two massive, blue galaxies rising from the horizon
One version included ships flying in the distance sorta similar to those from Homeworld.
>>255053943
>all the dark matter sitting in the core of our planet
Will humanity be ready to fight back?
>>255048652
>Huge galactic political crisis happens over Greys stealing cows
>mfw
>>255054314
w-what is that.
>>255053559
But it isn't!
Jupites does have a "solid" core!
>>255054593
What makes hydrogen metallic?
>>255053559
>there will never be a game entirely focused around exploring planets in Mako and bouncing around and shit
>>255053986
meant for
>>255053559
>>255054669
Pressure.
>>255054669
Very high pressure and very low temperature.
>>255054669
its metal-like state
>>255051342
You atoms and molecules still exist and eventually will spread out among the universe. Matter can't be destroyed, normally. Black Holes literally erase you. Nothing leaves.
>>255054092
Go join them. Probably polans trying to into space
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd72pLt9D30
>>255054669
Extreme pressure. This is how planets were made.
>The Great Attractor is a gravity anomaly in intergalactic space within the range of the Hydra-Centaurus Supercluster that reveals the existence of a localized concentration of mass tens of thousands times that of the Milky Way. This mass is observable by its effect on the motion of galaxies and their associated clusters over a region hundreds of millions of light-years across.
What the fuck is it?
>>255054737
>>255054773
>>255054753
So is it a solid?
>>255054753
Jupiter isn't exactly cold, though.
>>255049846
>Black holes are actually extremely bright
>>255050401
Last time I checked they were pretty far and implemented career mode with contracts and all sorts of shit
>>255038812
pc related
>>255054463
it's a nebulae calm your tits
You guys want something really scary?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Filter
>Hanson's list, while incomplete, describes the following nine steps in an "evolutionary path" that results in the colonization of the observable universe:
>1 The right star system (including organics and potentially habitable planets)
>2 Reproductive molecules (e.g., RNA)
>3 Simple (prokaryotic) single-cell life
>4 Complex (archaeatic and eukaryotic) single-cell life
>5 Sexual reproduction
>6 Multi-cell life
>7 Tool-using animals with big brains
>8 Where we are now
>9 Colonization explosion.
>According to the Great Filter hypothesis at least one of these steps - if the list were complete - must be improbable. If it's not an early step (i.e. in our past), then the implication is that the improbable step lies in our future and our prospects of reaching step 9 (interstellar colonization) are still bleak. If the past steps are likely, then many civilizations would have developed to the current level of the human race. However, none appear to have made it to step 9, or the Milky Way would be full of colonies. So perhaps step 9 is the unlikely one, and the only thing that appears likely to keep us from step 9 is some sort of catastrophe or the resource exhaustion leading to impossibility to make the step due to consumption of the available resources (like for example highly constrained energy resources). So by this argument, finding multicellular life on Mars (provided it evolved independently) would be bad news, since it would imply steps 2–6 are easy, and hence only 1, 7, 8 or 9 (or some unknown step) could be the big problem.[3]
>>255054856
Yes.
>>255052730
How do you not know the you can't see me gesture? Even if you're not into WWE you must have heard it before.
>>255054463
god's asshole
>>255054851
you're mum LOL
>>255054892
did you just actually suggest starbound as something that accurately depicts anything
im pretty sure you are in error here
>>255054794
No black holes don't "destroy" you. they just lock all your matter up in a box that can never ever leave or interact with the outside universe ever again.
>>255054153
One of the most practical interstellar starship designs involves a gigantic steel vessel propelled by constant thermonuclear detonations.
This is an understandably expensive idea.
Interestingly, Project Orion isn't limited by the detonation technology, but by the rate of thermal radiation to stop the ship melting.
>>255052645
Just so you know, the earth's atmosphere works as a lens so everything we see beyond it is actually much bigger than it appears.
Ever gone to an aquarium and walked through those tubes of glass and thought "holy shit look at the size of that stingray!" Same effectIt's actually about 33% bigger.
>>255054851
Something with the mass of tens of thousands of Milky Ways.
Daily reminder that we will get to Mars before the century's over
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Colonial_Transporter
>>255054863
>average temperature -145 celcius
okay
The core wouldn't be cold but I suppose I should have said or instead of and.
>>255053327
Oh god thanks for this.
>>255054863
Yes it is, like -150 celcius. It's beyond the asteroid belt.
>>255054856
no its a liquid. metal doesn't mean solid at all the two aren't interchangeable
, just google it bruh
>>255054864
Well they should be. All the matter travelling into them are moving in extremely fast and black holes do spin very quickly. Also the matter that falls in is extremely hot just before crossing the event horizon. The problem is that because of the way Black Holes bend space none of the light ever leaves.
>>255055009
It depicts the vastness of space in so far as showing that there's absolutely fuck all to do everywhere else in the universe and that every planet looks the exact fucking same.
>>255052692
Here you go
>>255053327
Jesus christ, /v/. Now all we need is the kawaii black hole phase and we can call it a day.
>>255054929
Yes but see it like this.
By the Drake equation, we should have seen tracks of another "intelligent" race at our stage, even just in the noise around us.
The Fermi paradox tells us that said Great Filter is most likely past us.
>>255055018
You get mulched up and spat out as radiation.
>>255054593
Flash Gordon is still such a fucking genius setting.
A set of moons that orbit a gas giant INSIDE an oxygen layer. I mean sure, it wouldn't work. But it's still cool as balls.
>>255055124
It gets warmer as you go deeper due to gravitational contraction/leftover heat from its formation. It's also much warmer than the surrounding space.
>>255055254
The "hole" itself isn't bright. The accretion disk surrounding it is however, which is what you are thinking of.
>>255043627
holy shit i only just noticed that neptune looks creepy as fuck
i want to fuck a black hole
the suction must be better than the tightest cunt
>>255054929
There is a theory that sense everything in the galaxy isn't overrun by Von Neuman bots, than there is no intelligent life out there.What if we were the Von Neuman bots?
>>255055073
Why don't they just use cold nukes then?
>>255054851
Almost certainly it's just evidence of a mathematical mistake or a misconception in gravitational models.
Sorry.
>>255054851
We'll never know.
>>255054929
this is a thread about physics and space. this "hanson's list" seems to be a cute thought. needs evidence, otherwise we might as well be cavepeople thinking to ourselves
>>255055505
It would literally stretch your dick out at the atomic level
>>255055361
The Drake equation is nothing more than an educated guess, it should not be taken seriously.
>>255055361
>The Fermi paradox tells us that said Great Filter is most likely past us.
It doesn't at all.
>>255055505
requesting "man dreams to fuck the stars" copy pasta
>>255055018
No they don't.
It's just massive gravitational force from a really big object compressed into a really small area under its own weight.
The closest you'll get to being "erased" or "locked up forever" would be the nuclear fusion that happens with that much force pressing atoms together.
>>255055623
tell me more
Do you think planet cracking a la Dead Space is possible?
>You will never travel into a black hole and be shot out into some other dimension filled with waifus
>>255055505
So tight your dick bends space and time and becomes infinity.
Boy, that makes me want an infinidick. We should find a black hole asap.
>>255055603
type error. it's not some kind of new phenomenon being postulated that needs evidence, it's a hypothesis to explain the observation that we can't see any alien civs.
>>255055807
dead space vastly downscaled the 'planet' beyond what we define as planets.
>>255055297
>why are you so scared of something you'll never see
>black holes have so much force light can't escape them
>literally cannot give off light and are therefore invisible.
THAT is why you're so fucking horrifying.
>>255055635
Many variables have been rounded up to closer-to-life numbers thanksto recent development in extrasolar planet finding. We actually have the numbers instead of guessing them.
>>255055695
See it like this.
If the filter was ahead of us, we'd have seen, by now, civilizations with our own capabilities.
The fact space is so silent means the filter is either behind us, or before the step needed to reach space...
And even at 1/1000th of the speed of light, which is theoretically doable today, we'd have traces of other civilizations.
My money is on the passage from non-organic to organic matter.
>>255055946
it just seems so short-sighted to be like "there's no aliens so obvs its impossible to become aliens"
>>255055968
In the DS universe the first "planet" was Saturns largest moon Titan.
>>255055735
That's why I said that matter that makes you wouldn't be "destroyed" just locked up. Matter cannot be created or destroyed, that's one rule that cannot be violated based on physics as we understand them. In the case of a Black Hole matter doesn't go away, it's just locked up behind a horizon of fuck you that nothing can get past. Well you can get past it but you won't live to tell anyone about it
>>255050401Me-ouch, put the claws away there kitten.
>>255052645
Earth is only 6000 years old, dumbass.
>>255055979
and the fact NOTHING will be able to go into one without dying in the process.. EVERoh, and the fact that they COMBINE WITH EACH OTHER TO MAKE BIGGER ONES AND EVERYTHING IN OUR UNIVERSE WILL BE DEVOURED BY BLACK HOLES
>>255056287
Even black holes don't live forever.
>>255056143
>Matter cannot be created or destroyed
you're thinking of energyyes yes, energy can be converted to matter, I'm not some physicist I don't know shit about the technicalities.
>>255056287
>EVERYTHING IN OUR UNIVERSE WILL BE DEVOURED BY BLACK HOLES
Not if dark energy has anything to say about it
>>255056138
Aegis VII
>>255056287
>yfw the great attractor is a massive black hole that's going to absorb other great attractors throughout the universe and grow to fill the entire universe
>>255045176
>>255044339
I heard from someone that that idea was being tested somehow. I can't imagine how they could test that though...
Can /v/ name a good space movie for me to watch while I eat a hot n' ready roasted chicken from the grocery store later tonight
>>255056361
aren't you happy with your contracts
Listen to this while you explore the unknown in Space Engine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5iO2JRtqp0
>>255056535
Mars Attacks
>>255056535
Sunshine was good up until the last section
>>255055807
Hitting a planet so hard that it splits apart?
Absolutely. But it would require several advanced things.
>something that can burrow to the core of a planet and stay intact.
>an explosive capable of cracking the planet in a uniform manner
Cutting a planet with a laser is absolutely retarded though.
>>255056535
Apollo 13
Gravity
2001: A Space Odyssey
Europa Report
The Right Stuff
Marooned
>>255056263
How can the Earth be 6000 years old when it's just the year 2014?
Are you fucking retarded?
>>255056535
Outland
Europa Reportdebatable I know
>>255056535
Event Horizon
>>255055297
>>255056432
Sorry let me rephrase that
In the DS universe the first "planet" cracked was Saturns largest moon Titan.
>>255044739
sym are you still awake?
>>255038968
Well really just a single solar system which is still mindbogglingly huge.
>>255056508
Look for screen tearing IRL. If you see some then we find a way to tell God that His engine is shit
>>255056096
>If the filter was ahead of us, we'd have seen, by now, civilizations with our own capabilities.
.. no we wouldn't
we don't have the tech to detect earth-level civs
we can't even see extra-solar planets, we have to just infer their existence via the gravitational wobbles they cause on their star, and we can maybe analyze their atmosphere if we're lucky enough to find one that transits across the star.
we can't detect their radio waves because they become garbled static after a few dozen lightyears
the fact that we haven't seen any earthlike civs yet tells us absolutely nothing about the fermi paradox, it just means it's beyond our capabilities to detect them.
>>255056361
I'm all for NASA funding but Bill's projects are a fucking joke. SETI is an absolute waste.
>>255056543
>fishandhook.jpgThey're a good start and look to become a good feature with more polish and content down the road. That being said, the game still sorely lacks end game content for the playerbase that has put FAR too much time into the game (read: /kspg/)Kill la kill yourself Max
If a black hole grows so massive that it's gravitation pulls the space around itself
Wouldn't it just be erased from the universe completely? Grab a cloth, put a marble ball on it, twist the cloth around it and then lay it on a table. The 2d cloth is our universe, and there's a small twisted hole that leads into the space the marble holds.
>>255056096
>which is theoretically doable today, we'd have traces of other civilizations.
How
We didn't even know most solar systems had earth-like planets until the last five or so years
And even then, we only have spectronalytical representations of these planets. What, do you think we know what the surface of any non-solar system planet looks like? Do you think we can fucking enhance some Hubble pictures until we can see whether or not there's cars driving around on another planet? The best we can do is figure out the planet's composition based on a few different light-based tests.
Step 9 (colonization explosion) is just as unlikely.
>>255056762
whats up bud
>>255056496
>on the edge of a black hole perception of the passing of time for anything outside the edge itself slows down
>reaches infinite time dilation before touching the black hole itself
>whole galaxies fall into the great attractor
>super massive black hole
>whole universe falls inside its event horizon
>we all live on the edge of our own deaths
>never realize it because time's gonna slow infinitedly
>>255056535
>>255056637
don't watch gravity its just a spooktacular drama with **100% TRUE SCIENCE**
you won't learn shit, have to think about shit, or enjoy it
stick with 2001, its slightly creepy but the major point is the future of humanity. read the book a few days after watching it, really good combo
>>255056834
I stopped going to kspg because of how entitled everyone got early on. People with hundreds of hours played getting furious about missing content.
>>255056508
The idea was that you'd run extremely intensive computations in some region of space so that the computer the level above us starts to choke and glitch out. It's like running an emulator inside an emulator - shit slows down bigtime.
>>255056287
>oh, and the fact that they COMBINE WITH EACH OTHER TO MAKE BIGGER ONES AND EVERYTHING IN OUR UNIVERSE WILL BE DEVOURED BY BLACK HOLES
>yfw a Spiral Nemesis could actually happen some day
>>255056287
I was thinking about this actually.
>the big bang suggests that all matter was concentrated into a single point
>black holes are the only thing we know of that come close to being able to do this
>if a black hole absorbs the entire universe would it have enough gravitational force to collapse into itself and cause another big bang?
>has this happened before?Though it turns out someone beat me to thinking about this and the theory is already named "The Big Crunch"
>>255056953
>don't watch gravity its just a spooktacular drama with **100% TRUE SCIENCE**
doesn't mean it was a bad movie. Spooktacular drama can be good, you know.
>>255044904
God Jupiter is terrifyingly large. Something that size is unfathomable.
Then when you realize the sun dwarfs Jupiter.....
>>255056953
I haven't seen Gravity, I probably won't unless I'm forced to. I've seen 2001, absolutely loved it.
Last time I wanted to watch a space movie I watched Event Horizon but it turned out to be mediocre and a horror (didn't really want horror). I just want a nice space movie
>>255056984
I disagree with their development methodology or rather the utter lack of one (no, really), but considering that this is their first game things are going amazingly well. They lack foresight, but things should finish up nicelyin 2019.
>>255057021
>>255053327
Should've made it that the black hole sucked up the mouse or something
>>255057032
You're forgetting white holes.
>>255057032FUG
>>255057032
i prefer the idea that singularities contain universes
the implications of this are:
>we're in a black hole right now
>all other black holes inside our universe contain other "pocket" universes
>this can essentially go on forever creating a sort of infinite fractal multiverse
>space engine
>browsing planets
>click zoom to
>zooming through the unimaginable vastness of the cosmos
>start to slow down
>planet comes up
>gas giant
>still zooming
>can't stop
>getting closer, small dot is getting bigger
>gas giant is huge
>zooming in still, can't abort
>end up in the clouds of some gas giant, can't see shit
>close
Space Engine is far too fucking spooky for me.
>>255057191
I'll revise it then
Moon
Apollo 13
The Right Stuff
Marooned
Europa Report
>>255057093
that's fair, but he's looking for a space movie. I assumed he wanted something that was mostly about space. I could be wrong
>>255057136
Keep ging down the rabbit hole anon, the sun is a pathetic manlet
>>255056953
*tips fedora*
>>255057136
And then you realize VY Canis Majoris vastly dwarfs the sun, and then you realize there's are stars even larger than VY Canis Majoris.
I'm afraid /v/
Afraid of space
Help
>>255057032
the problem with it is that entropy wouldn't reset with each crunch. eventually you'd just get heat death.
>>255057263
yeah I tried drawing it like that but it ended up looking stupid
>>255057325
Oh yeah good to know that Gravity isn't about space.
Alpha of a game where you're a little alien and you explore your little solar system in your little ship.
http://outerwilds.com/
Controls are balls but it's fun.
>>255044339
What if the simulation wasn't in real time, and playing the simulation for one second equates to billions of years in ours? What if one guy accidentally started up the simulation for just a second and we're living through that right now? Him and some higher-up scientist are looking at each other like "holy shit dude"
>>255051841
>Carl Sagan is an atheist
fucking dropped
>>255054092
Same shit happened to me while I was watching some creepy shit on Youtube. The neighbors facing out my window are like confirmed drug dealers and I thought some shit went down so I ran to my bathtub.
>>255057412
Kill yourself. It's the only way to escape space which is everywhere.
> Implying any of this is real
> Implying this isn't all a simulation
Looks at your hand. In in fuck can you move it?
How do you know you're even on a "planet"? Have you see it at a distance?
No, you fucking haven't.It's the fucking Patriots
>>255057516
More of an agnostic
>>255057317
Thanks I'll check them out
>>255057373
I turned on my computer to play video games. Instead of not doing that, and reading about video games, I'm getting called a neckbeard in a thread about space
>as if this thread didn't inspire me to DL space engine a few minutes ago so it was worth it
>kerbal on wishlist, I'll probably pirate it tonight anyway
>>255044339
The problem with the simulation argument is that, assuming it's true, what difference does it make? How would we realistically "leave" the simulation? At the end of the day, the universe, whether a simulation or not, is bound by defined rules, and the best thing we can do is try our best to learn them.
>>255057316
That's when you roll like crazy on your mouse wheel and then press S.
>>255057614
why does it constantly have to be said that agnosticism and atheism are not mutually exclusive? they do not answer the same question
if carl sagan was someone who didn't know if it possible to know if god exists and also didn't claim that any god actually does exist, then he was an agnostic atheist
>tfw no gf
It's strange to think that perhaps eventually humans, in an attempt to understand the creation of the universe, will create a physics simulation to recreate it in a computer (or many, most likely). And that simulation may end up being accurate enough to create Earth and its life somewhere inside it.
>>255057475
the setting is space. the plot is based around a problem space poses. it's about whether or not Sandra Bullock can survive a space station collision or some shit. at best you could say its a movie about astronauts. it takes place a few miles off of earth, barely even space
>tfw cruising through space while wearing my oculus rift
>>255057795
At that point, we truly would have found thedeepest lore.
The Evochron games
>>255057306
>infinite fractal multiverse
cool
I told a stoner friend of mine that all atoms have a huge amount of space between them even though they appear to make a solid object and that an atom has the same general structure of a solar system. Suggested that the universe could be the same thing, each solar system just an atom in an object of some other gigantic universe and our entire universe just one of many solid objects in it.
Blew his drug addled mind.
>>255057795
How would a simulation help us understand things which origin we have no idea about?
>>255057904
w-what game
i want devkit2 so bad. it was entirely designed and produced before marky mark and the zuckerbunch got their hands on it
>>255057727
>The problem with the simulation argument is that, assuming it's true, what difference does it make?
It does in principle make some predictions. Fundamental constraints on computation mean that there's a limit to how many recursive levels of simulation we can have. If we figure out that the math says you can only have at most (say) 10 levels running, and we do the experiment and find we can only manage 6, then that's evidence in favor of us being the 4th level down from the root universe.
It also has some interesting implications for anthropic arguments and decision theory problems.
If your that scared of black holes just play Solar 2, your vision of them will change.
>>255050437
>>255050359
People still like Pluto, dwarf star or not. We sent a probe up there for the sole purpose of taking pictures of it (the only thing we really know about it is that it has a highly differenciated albedo like Triton and nitrogen ice)
Perhaps the reason why we haven't heard of other civilizations is that trying to reach other solar systems requires us to do something that sets in motion one of those many doomsday theories.
Like the hypothesis of going faster than light by shrinking the space in front of a space craft and expanding it behind to "push" it past the speed of light.
>>255043627
>>255055489
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-G272M77N0
>play space engine to relax, zipping though the universe and generally bullshitting and exploring
>watch startrek: into darkness
>that warp drive chase scene
>people vented into space at ftl speeds
>haven't opened space engine in almost a week since
Anyone got a link to that youtube video about going inside a black hole?The one where the narrator gets more and more freaked out as one gets closer and goes calm when reaching the singularity.
>>255057483
looks cool
>alpha
how buggy is it?
>>255039176
>>255039589
>>255039646
>play all 3
>>255048175
>The game won't feel vast if you can get from point a to point b in a matter of seconds or minutes.
>If you make it so that traveling is really slow it can become tedious, very much so.
>And there's still the issue of the amount of content the game would have.
Nah, you can make that work. You just have to make the interactions with planets VERY exciting, and the in-between stuff interesting too.
If I made it, you'd have this fantastic ship that could land multiple times on other planets (like something out of Star Wars). You'd need to manage logistics like fuel by refueling at gas giants. You'd choose your crew and interact with them, forming relationships and managing crew tensions in between planets. While in transit, you can also design new rovers, mining equipment, weapons, suits, etc, depending on what you collected from your previous planet visit. Collecting scientific data and streaming it back to earth gets you further funding and the possibility to have more food and crew dropped out to you. Collecting raw resources on planets allows you to build the aforementioned upgrades. You also get the pleasure of documenting all the creatures and plants of any life-filled planet you find.
For extra long trips (between solar systems) you go into cryostasis (essentially making it instantaneous). When you wake up, you have to fix things that have broken down while in transit (which requires resources). Then while in solar systems there is no fast travel.
Sleeping, eating, washing, etc are all required for happiness and moral. So for example, imagine you come out of cryostasis and all the showers are broken, so now your crew [especially the women] are getting more and more cranky until you find the resources you need to fix the showers. You'll need to diffuse tensions and keep shit going until you land on a local barren planet and mine the rare earth metal needed to fix the shower's control chip.
ITT: Shit that will never happen
>>255038812
>464 replies
>ctrl+f
>Orbiter
>No matches
:^\, I'm getting too old for this place
>>255058143
>Fundamental constraints on computation mean that there's a limit to how many recursive levels of simulation we can have.
These constraints are, by the very nature of the supposed scale of a computer or device capable of running our universe, completely null and void.
No, seriously, you're going to sit here and tell me our current limits of computing apply in the universe where running a perfect universe simulation is feasible?
Evochron Mercenary maybe?
EVE?
I hope no one mentioned Space Engine.It's not a game.
>>255058424
>Orbiter
>Not BARIS
Get on my level Billy.
>>255057763
Reminds me of all that transgender crap. What ever happened to being a sceptic? I mean the idea of a great creator existing is pretty cool but really unrealistic from my understanding of the universe. But then I don't understand the universe completely so I can't possibly know if a god could exist anyway.
>>255057989
Hmm, I don't know. I guess we'd have to know the origin to accurately simulate it...
>>255058403
If that ever happens, they better not put the fucking cockpit on the outer edge of the ship.
>>255058542
>I hope no one mentioned Space Engine.
Read the thread fagtron.
>>255055891
>call the aliens, I want them to see this
>>255051007
you'd experience the flow of time normally. the people watching you form the outside see you falling in more and more slowly until you seem to freeze at the horizon, so to them you seem "frozen in time" but you yourself are pulled in and apart as "normal."
funny thing is, once past the event horizon, the radial spacial axis and the time axis switch places; the singularity of the black hole ceases to be a point in space, and instead literally becomes your inevitable future. no escape.
>>255056764
And it's fractions of the size of our own solar system too.
>>255048573
He's either a conspiratard, or referring to lava tubes (which do exist on the Moon).
>>255058663
If people would see someone infinitely falling into a black hole, the black hole would be dotted with all the asteroids and planets and such that have previously fallen in it. It wouldn't be black at all.
>>255058521
?
I don't mean our current limits of computing in Earth circa 2014, I mean the ultimate physical limits of what you can possibly do given any arrangement of matter.
>read about gas giants
>learn that if a human were to enter a gas giant's atmosphere, you would simultaneously be crushed, burned, poisoned and shredded by extreme atmosphere
>>255058878
Except it would, light can't escape it.
>>255058970
Sauce?
>>255039359
And still, i had more fun on this thing than in all AAA games i ever played.
>>255049113
This star is basically Beltegueuse. At that distance, though, the planet would have long since been vaporized or dislocated from being within the Roche limi.
>>255054851
its a super-magnet
>>255058985
So if someone were to fall into a black hole, they would disappear too. They wouldn't "infinitely fall" to the observer.
There are actually old MUD games that do a pretty good job of it. Emptyless voids dotted with abandoned settlements every once in a while...it is beautifully lonely and decayed.
>>255039176
i should have known better. you sonnuva bitch.
>>255058960
Again, how will any achievable limit at any point in time in our universe ever realistically apply to a higher universe?
>there are people who believe in aliens despite there literally being not a single shred of evidence of life existing anywhere else but Earth
I bet they also believe in Noah's Ark, Magic and The Holocaust.
>>255059178
There are people on /v/ that don't believe in bait, either.
>>255048652
Jokes on you, we'll never make it into space in any meaningful way while the media remains as it is.
>>255058403
>You'd choose your crew and interact with them, forming relationships and managing crew tensions in between planets.
Pls no. Nobody cares about daddy issues.
>>255057795
>inb4 it's too big to fit on a computer
a "googol" (10^100) is only two syllables and that number is so impossibly huge the weight of the visible universe is about 10^90 at most.
Wikipedia says we'd need 333 bits to hold a googol. We just need the right language to be able to simulate an entire universe on an every day PC.
That in itself is crazy.
>>255053124
>dream of the atmosphere just opening up to space
>fucking huge hole from horizon to horizon
>SUDDENLY the whole planet accelerates into another solar system/galaxy/universe
>see this happen at blazing speed
>sudden fire and lava starts spewing from the earth
>run my fastest to the closest building which was a small, two-story mall with a roof
>get on the roof and look out to the ground
>demons and fucking imps everywhere
>people getting impaled and ripped to shreds
>RED and FIRE everywhere
>>255059309
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEQrmDoIRO8
REKT
>>255059159
Obviously.
>>255048937
Plasma.
>>255059172
because the math behind how computation works is constant in all universes
we might not be able to figure out what the exact conditions are in the root universe, but if our math tells us that we ought to be able to simulate X levels, and we can only simulate Y<X levels, then that means we aren't the root.
>>255059178
Great Filter, Fermi Paradox, etc.One theory actually states:
>Perhaps any sufficiently advanced society will develop highly engaging media and entertainment well before the capacity for advanced space travel, and that the rate of appeal of these social contrivances is destined, because of their inherent reduced complexity, to overtake any desire for complex, expensive endeavors such as space exploration and communication. Once any sufficiently advanced civilization becomes able to master its environment, and most of its physical needs are met through technology, various "social and entertainment technologies", including virtual reality, are postulated to become the primary drivers and motivations of that civilization.
Meaning there's a chance advanced civilizations are really common, but being a VR neet 24/7 is more appealing than a chance at expansion.
>>255046747
>Acting like a nigger is still cool 20 years after Vanilla ice
>>255042392It's actually closer to a submarine game than a space game.
>>255059583
>because the math behind how computation works is constant in all universes
Again, why are you assuming something as ludicrous as that? What evidence do you have that ANY rule present in our universe applies on a higher one, assuming the simulation theory is true?
And what happens if we never hit a limit?
Seriously, there are so many glaring problems with your current line of thinking that I'm having a hard time tackling all of them coherently.
>>255053531
>We run the numbers and see that the galaxies do not have enough gravity to hold themselves together for the speed they're spinning at. But we don't know what's making the extra gravity or where it's coming from
The whole universe is a simulation, strings are what the building blocks look like to the simulatees. The dark matter and energy are hardcoded in instead of procedurally generated like the rest.
So, /v/, will Gal Civ 3 be any good? Even despite its outrageous RRP?
>>255059342
How the fuck is that daddy issues?
>projecting
What do you think was the most popular part of mass effect, fagit? I didn't see 1000 threads about the riveting space combat back when it was new.
>>255059904
Orrrr our current understanding of astrophysics is wrong, since we've only learned about these problems in the last few decades and are far from having the tools to properly measure or understand it.
>>255059453
Nice concept buddy.
>>255058296
graphical issues, content missing, but it's certainly playable
>>255060132
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQnR5fhCXkQ
DOUBLE REKT
>>255060031
>What do you think was the most popular part of mass effect, fagit?
The story and the music. I don't recall anyone saying that the daddy issues that half the crew had (plus Liara who somewhat had daddy issues) were a highlight of the game.
>>255059701
anon it's not just cool, it's encouraged
>>255060221
>got a rocket into orbit
>basically still at 1950s level tech
>no where even close to the funding needed to even send a probe to the moon.
To space travel properly, you need funding from everyone. i.e. It needs to be funded via taxes. While everyone remains tied up in bullshit reality TV and SJW bullshit, we will never be unified or focused enough to make any real strides.
Deal with it.
>>255060031
>you will never drink out of one of those ever again
>>255060378
You're an actual retard. No one is talking about daddy issues except for you. I'm sorry your father doesn't love you.
>>255060650
>Implying I still don't have my collection