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time for a real shin megumi tensay thread
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Persona > Shin
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>>255015190
Well, SMT Nocturne is the Dark Souls of Persona games after all.
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who /SONOFMAN/ here
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law > chaos > neutral
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO6LWQhvzRw
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>>255015373
>the Dark Souls of Persona games

wat
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>>255016806
Dark Souls is the Dark Souls of Souls games.
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>>255016694
Alright fuck you you just made me buy the game on PSN.

I can't wait to fuck up Lucifer again.
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yo stuck on Thor in Nocturne.
tips pls
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Playing SMT IV. Only about to go after the Black Samurai in Naruku so not that far in. Any advice on what I should focus on? I'm going full magic. This is my first SMT game and going to try out the other after.
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I started playing Nocturne some time ago, just beat Dante and so far I'm still not that impressed with the game.

It feels so lifeless and the plot is moving so slow, but I'll keep pushing it since I always had this shame of never playing it before.
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>>255017738
if you beat the minotaur you will have no problems with any of the other bosses.

just make sure you can buff and debuff and you will be fine.
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>>255018034

The game was rushed, and is likely unfinished in many areas.
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>>255017618
fuse shit and grind to unlock their abilities
don't use demons with thunder weakness or thunder-based attacks
>>255017245
>not having all 5 PS2 megaten games
step it up, sempai
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>>255018295
>not having all seven
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>>255018034
game is made of moments (like the matador fight or meeting Gozu Tennoh), not the sum of its parts.
enjoy the music and environments, story isn't going to surprise you or anything
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>>255018235

Yeah, I came to this one just after having a blast with both Raidou games, they were so damn fun to play.

I still have to play Digital Devil Saga 1 and 2, never bothered to do before.
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>>255018295
i own them all, including Persona.
i have never played the Devil Summoner games though... They seem kinda meh
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>>255018440
I'm not counting Persona
and yes, I know that DDS isn't considered SMT in japan, dunno about Raidou
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Persona 3 is harder than Nocturne.
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>>255014589
I have never understood what was happening in OP's picture, are the demons about to rape/kill him?
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>>255018892
not hard, just time-consuming
you have to grind to compensate for the dumb AI
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>>255016806
Shitposting
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>>255019090

I have never gotten very far in 3 because the AI is so fucking bad.

i've own P3P but i can't bring myself to play it because the No Cut scenes, even though i know you can control your party....
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You guy have any particular demons you were fond of, or just really liked the skillset in general.
That mother harlot is kinda useless, i know
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>>255017618
Lilim is the lowest level demon with elec nullify. You can see the fusions needed for getting Lilim with Heretic Mansion with the reverse fusion. Having a demon with media will also help. Make sure it's not Uzume though since it's weak to elec
http://www.phpsimplicity.com/heretic/
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>>255015190
They're the same game.
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>>255019386
any void skill is useless at endgame unless it's void phys or resist/null:all other
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>>255019386
I thought Skadi was kinda cool.
I was also pretty fond of Daisoujou but i get the feeling he was liked by most people in general.
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Objectively best demon coming through
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>>255018118
Funny I actually beat him. Wasn't that hard but right after I got ambushed by demons that both used mazio (for whatever the group zio is) and one of my demons was weak to it. And it didn't let me run away after I got hurt bad. And died. So 2 random enemies killed me when the boss could hardly touch me.
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>>255018892
>Nocturne
>Hard

Every boss fight you just need spam Tarukaja and Rakunda and beat the everliving fuck of them.
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>>255020008

Accurate megaten experience
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>>255019749
She actually drains/null/repel everything, but that gave her no space to have actually useful skill. A the time i just wanted a character like that because i thought it would be cool, her sole gimmick turned out to be denying turns to the enemy.
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>>255020008
press turns were made for weakness exploit
if you don't abuse them, the enemy will
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>>255019386
>>255018892
Not gonna agree with you on it being harder, but I will give you agree with you that the AI is stupid as fuck.

>fighting Nyx
>Night Queen
>One by one all party members run directly into it
>Die
Seriously guys? You didn't learn after the first time?
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>>255020123
I know I just found it both funny and annoying. Because I was like "YES FUCK YOU" than not 5 seconds later "FUCCCCCKKK!"
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>>255020179
Oh I know. I just found the whole thing funny. That I was able to beat the boss without much trouble and right after beating him I got ambushed and didn't last past the second round.
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>>255020094
then it uses dekaja / dekunda / debilitate
it's better to play on an even field, debuffing him and using the rest of your tuns to attack
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>>255019949
And best hero
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>>255020676
>not Hijiri
come on
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>>255020634

But that's alright, since they lose a turn to do it.

This saved my ass when I needed a breathing room in hard bosses, I just went and debuffed them so they had to waste a move, It's a win/win strategy.
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>>255020189

It's your fault tho, you gotta think with caution and not set every party member tactic to attack. Or if you do so, be carefull and give them elemental based weapons, such as the fire sword to Junpei. That way, even if the attack is reflected, nothing will happen to him
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>Fifth Kapla
>Trying to figure out which Mataguchi to ingest to avoid being insta killed by some bullshit
>It seems enemies this Kapla use Death magic
>Ingest a mataguchi that's immune to death
>Figure I'll be untouchable
>Run into an enemy I've defeated countless times over the course of the game without any trouble
>They ambush me so they get first hit
>Puts my entire party to sleep
>Kills them in the same turn

I didn't even get a fucking chance.
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>Atlus sale happens
>now have Persona 1/2, Soul Hackers, SMT4, and SMT:DS1&2 in backlog

Fucking Atlus.
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>>255020939
>Leave the enemy weak and just one hit would end the fight
>Junpei is up
>Waits
JUST FUCKING ATTACK YOU DUMB FUCKER!
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>>255016806

It's about modern day gaming journalism.

http://www.gamezone.com/originals/2014/01/14/9-games-that-are-the-dark-souls-of-their-genre

Viewer discretion advised.
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>>255015487
Best girl
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>mfw I'm playing Nocturne on the PCSX2 and turn the speedhack on to grind

This shit is kinda addicting, It started with the grind and now I'm always playing with it on.
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>>255019386
>ikebukuro
>not really good at the game since it was the first time i played it
>in a random battle a momunofu starts to talk with me
>he asks a question and, after my answer, joins me
>FUCK YEAH YOU'RE THE BEST DEMON EVER
>keep him for the longest time
>one day see the message that warns me he's going to change
>sadly decide to let him change into another demon
>he changes into arahabaki
>what the fuck where's my badass soldier. I have a shitty doll now
>don't even bother looking at his stats, fucking hated him
>then the first time fight happenes
>nulls phis
>NULLS PHIS
i still have him. the only other demon i got so close to was archangel, because i made up a silly personality for him.
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>>255021357
Rather not. I just fucking hate people that says "Dark Souls of..." It's annoying because even back in the fucking 80's they didn't say "Mario of..." or "Zelda of..." IT IS IT'S OWN GAME AND KEEP IT THAT WAY!
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>>255021357
>oh no! I just died, it's so hard. hey, it reminds me of Dark Souls!
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DS1 fucking when
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How is Soul Hackers? I currently have $15 on eshop credit and it is on sale for $15 right now. I can't decide if I should get Soul Hackers, Code of Princess, NES Remix 2 or wait for the possibility of either Ace Attorney or Senran Kagura going on sale.

Plz help.
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Law a shit
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>>255022024
>How is Soul Hackers?

Great.
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>>255022024
It plays like a Saturn game. You'll get a lot of bullshit deaths, and there's the odd line of untranslated dialogue, but other than that it's great.
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>>255022024
SH is great if you don't mind MAG or first person dungeon crawling.
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>>255022384
>and there's the odd line of untranslated dialogue,

??????????????????????????
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>>255022384
The ability to save anywhere kinda makes it up for the random game overs. I did hear that it had some game breaking bug at some part
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>>255022092
I can guarantee you that your faith will be generously compensated, goyim. Join our cause!
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>>255022798
>saving anywhere
It feels like I'm cheating, honestly.
That said, having everyone randomly target MC is pretty fucking annoying.
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>>255022823
Yes hero, die for our cause!
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>>255021357
>That whole fucking article
Christ. I feel physically sick now.
>>255022092
No u
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>>255022823
Go away Mastema
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>>255022891
>>255022891
I was ok with that, but then again, I'm a massive casual
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>>255021624
Grinding is pathetic you little faggot
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>>255017618
Sukukaja. Works against everything that can't debuff you.
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>>255021624
grinding too much is a waste of time in Nocturne, you just need to unlock the abilities and reach the lv. requirement for the next fusion
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>>255018235
Anon, the version released in the west is the Maniacs one. It's the fixed version released after SMT III had a poor reception in Japan. The original was even worse.
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>>255018034
>It feels so lifeless and the plot is moving so slow, but I'll keep pushing it since I always had this shame of never playing it before.
Exactly how I felt when I finally beat it last year. It's one of the most boring games I ever played and I'll probably never understand why people like it.
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>>255014589

Finally, no persona waifushit thread.

post best tracks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs8LPvutrlI
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>>255023882
never expect any game ever to match the hype of its fanbase, Dark Souls is all the evidence you need
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>>255023959
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtJIMeyzh48
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F8mWUmCTlk
{spoiler]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybtl7Ik5CBk[/spoiler]
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>>255023959
The persona waifushit has really gotten out of hand. Litterally every fucking day. But anyway, here's my favorite track

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xyTbDtQSgW4
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>>255023882
pay attention to the story and youll see that it works like an anime.
there are good and bad episodes, most of the time you'll end up remembering a specific one and not the main plot or the finale.
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>>255021143
>Atlus sale happens
>remember I'm in Europe
>Atlus sale doesn't happen
>be sad
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>>255023959
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDpjjLiJTt4
>tfw the PS1 versions of SMT1/2 will never get translated
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>>255024360
>fucking up this hard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybtl7Ik5CBk
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I've played Purseowner and I like those games and I want to try Nocturne. What version am I supposed to find for the best experience?
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>>255023959
The name of this track is so fitting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zle-RdHmlDg
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>>255024841
just play the NA version, Dante is useful enough for endgame and isn't too much of a nuisance against the final boss
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>>255024841
The one Featuring Dante, from Devil May Cry
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>>255023959
>>255024360
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjKrUc_EalM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRvQ1lxp7IQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUK3ZnH0_ZU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQF1G9mBoyY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW2qIpDGPXo&index=91&list=PLB31291A4621D69A2
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>tfw almost done with DDS1
>this fucking encounter rate
I've been collecting and selling so many fucking cells, why isn't Estoma Spray available yet fuck.
It's made worse by my PS2 causing encounter rates to fluctuate like mad, sometimes giving me back-to-back.
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>tfw there'll never be a PS2-era SMT collection on Vita/3ds
Instead they're all on PS3's shit "PS2 Classics", better off emulating on a PC instead.
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>>255023959
I want more encounter themes

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HQXoC5ssgBQ
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>>255025709
I'd rather have the classics officially localized like 2 and ...if
these games don't have much to show in HD. maybe widescreen, but I don't mind.
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>>255017245
Disrepair but also a erection
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>>255017618
Taunt and Divine shot
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>>255026036
Well 1 is on iOS and people are hopeful they will bring over 2 and if that does well they might be willing to do If... but that's just if you care about iOS. I have it and it's not that bad. The only problem is how awful the battery life on a smart phone is.
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>>255021985
>Games like this never made it over because SoA thought 2D games were "for babies" now that 3D was the new hotness.

Fucking Sega.
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>>255021357
>Path of Exile - The Dark Souls of Action RPGs
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>>255024775
>Be Ausfag
>Only P2 PSP and P3P is on our PSN
>70 Digeridollars or some shit
All I want to play is some legit MegaTen, goddamn.
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>>255017618
get better at gaming your pathetic...
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>>255026509
I think it mostly the demonic and religious parts that stopped it. While Sega was a bit more liberal than Nintendo they still never went fully ok with religious things.
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>>255026509
>makes the best console for running 2D games of its time
>doesn't want to release 2D games in the west
Truly a company ahead of its time.
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>>255026836
Good thing PSP are easily CFW'd/emulated?
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>>255018757
Persona, Devil Summoner and DD Saga are all considered spinoffs, no more and no less.

dijeh.tumblr.com/post/75036354453/remember-that-meguro-interview-thing-not-soejima
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>>255026509
nope, occult and lewd stuff suffered more censorship back then because of religionfags, publishers self-censored a lot of stuff during the 16-bit era
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So when the fuck is IV going to be released?
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Vita version of Nocturne when?
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>>255019386
>Be part Scottish
>Playing SMT 3
>See Satanta in fusion
>got to get that shit.png
>use full moon to bring him to my level
>he levels up and gets all his skills
>gives lu increase
>Something is happening to Satanta's body continue
>Yes I know where this is going
>Cu Chulainn
>Fuck yes
>skill morphs for Hades blast
>gets attack all
>Retaliate, Life surge and Life aid
>even comes back late game as a sub in the final boss with his 999hp

I can't, not have him in SMT or Persona.
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>>255028530
Fucking soon I hope
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>>255028503
It was released on the 3DS last year anon
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>>255028679
Shut your burger hole american
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>>255027786
I don't want to play Plebsona, P3 was barely passable, P4 was absolute anime trash that I dropped shortly after the first shadow and I prefer the PS1 versions of P2 on account of no Soejima "Art".
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>>255028530
>Vita
Atlus isn't as willing as Konami or Squenix, they will just push more Persona into it.
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You know, I used to be a rabid SMT fan but looking back, the persona series is just more entertaining. I've played through SMT 3 and IV and watched playthroughs of 1 and 2. 1 and two are boring as shit, the only SMT games that are actually more entertaining than even PErsona 3 and 4 are SMT IV and Strange Journey.

Strange Journey was fucking brilliant; the pacing wasn't slow as fuck and there was always a tense and eerie air about the schwarzshit.

SMT IV felt more like a standard jrpg, because it wasn't so damn lonely, you always had either the law or chaosfag following you around. The story was pretty good the first time around.

Strange Journey and Persona 3 and 4 just keep me coming back to rewatch scenes all the time.
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>>255023226
But I need to max out my Magatama's
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>>255029298
>watched playthroughs of 1 and 2.
>1 and two are boring as shit
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Chie is my waifu
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>>255028912
Soejima didn't do the art for the PSP versions of the Persona 2 duology, it was Masayuki Doi, who also did art for the Trauma Center series and SMT4.
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>>255029531
Chie isn't SMT
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>>255024807
>Beat smt 1 for snes
>hate the speed of it
>see ps1 version
>animations are fast and smooth as butter
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Persona 3/4-only player non-waifufag here

Delving into the other games

I have DeSu:OC and Nocturne, what should I play first? I want something thats gonna give me a good SMT experience, fun gameplay, but not so good or so bad that itll ruin the other games
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>>255029662
Devil Survivor is probably easier, both are good starting points
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>>255029298
Shut up, Metatron.
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>>255029298
from what I can see, you just enjoy the company of other characters rather than wandering alone in the spooky environments.
Persona 4 gives you all the waifu and bromance you need
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>>255029527
If I actually played that shit I would have been bored out of my fucking mind.

What actually happened during the story was fucking awesome but it was paced TERRIBLY.

All of my favorite tropes were present in the tale but I would never again go back to watch either of them much less do a playthrough
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>>255018892
Shit man, I love Nocturne but it's easy as fuck to break.
Acquire Fog Breath early on and the rest of the game is cake.
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>>255028656
would it be Dante or Raidou or a question at the start to decide
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Recently picked up 4 and I'm liking it
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>>255029812
>Devil Survivor is probably easier
Haha no.
>>255029883
Dude, is story everything you care about?
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>>255029662
I'd recommend Nocturne more due to all the fusions and optional stuff, DeSu might feel a bit stale after a while specially during battles.
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>>255029662
They both play completely differently.
If you want to ease in with a more animesque world, go with DeSu.
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>>255029662
DeSu is very different from other Megaten games since it's an SRPG, but it's still very good.
Nocturne's battle system is more similar to P3 and P4, though less forgiving, so it makes a good transition game as well.
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>>255021291
They only wait if all their attacks are useless though. It must have blocked fire and slash
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>>255029826
I loved strange journey the best of all and you spend a good amount of time alone in that.

IT's just that shit happened a reasonable amount. You came across some creepy shit, or some crewmates and it made the suspense go up. The atmosphere was just better
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>>255017167
No, it's Dragon's Dogma

I'm serious, there was a article going on about this
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>>255029662
Go for nocturne because its close to persona's gameplay
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>>255019090
i rarely ever had problems with the AI.
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>>255029947
everybody would pick Raidou because of pierce
if Dante's stinger had pierce he'd be perfect
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>>255029531
I'm sure there are about ten other personigger threads you can shitpost in right now.
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>>255030137
nah, there's enough contact between you, that chaos dude and Zelenin all the time to prevent you from feeling lonely
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>>255030047
I like a good balance of story and gameplay and my gripe was that SMT I and II were overtly weighed in the direction of gameplay. Usually that's not bad. I can take a game that's mostly gameplay and little story if it's fun. But the gameplay just consists of walking through bland ass corridors and grinding
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>>255030115
Nope it was a basic enemy that could have easily died with a normal attack. I should know my turn came up soon and I slashed it to death. The AI is just really fucking bad.
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>>255030230
but son's oath balances it I thought
Resist = 50% less
Son's = oath 50%more

doe's Raidou have a similar skill because I never looked further into his move pool after pierce
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>>255030404
>grinding
Jesus Christ.
You didn't even play the games. SMT I and II are the easiest mainline games.
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>P4 milking will never stop
>We will never get an SMT HD Collection
>Persotards will never shut up about the two worst "Games" in their series
>Persotards will keep spreading their cancer everywhere
>More and more JRPG series are going down the fucking toilet
I need help guys, help me reignite my love for this genre.
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>All of these came out on PSN
>Got the real PS2 copies anyway

¯\_(?)_/¯
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Why does the PSN DDS2 run so much better than the first one? How did fuck that up?

Also, Roland is best character and Cielo is actually reliable
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If anyone here never reached the King's Gate and successfully inherited the throne of Bel, leave immediately and never come back.
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>>255030674
Yep. Just spam Zio and Nerve Bullets. DONE.
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>>255030828
Fuck I envy you, Anon.
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>>255030674
From what I saw, the guy had to stop and grind a bunch and fast forwarded those parts.

Also, you can't tell me IV was harder than I and II. IV was BABY tier shit and I beat it before any completed guides were even around

Nocturne wasn't even that bad, either.

I'm speaking of the normal difficulty though
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>>255030828
I will never get Fostou Kuzaheehoo because Europe
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>>255030828
>dat Raidou-JF
Fuck I'm jelly, I hope something horrible happens to you.
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>>255030724
We'll get more console SMT once they show off the new demon models in P5 that they'll recycle for generations to come
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If Chiaki wants a world where only the strongest survive (chaos), then why do the angels side with her?

And why is Thor also working for the chaotic faction?
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>>255030828
Would love that plushy. I actually never played Devil Summoner games. Are they as good as the other games?
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>>255031153
>new demon models in P5
>Anything about P5 being new
Poor, innocent Anon. It will be P4-2 and you fucking know it.
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help
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>>255031163
Nocturnes factions were fucked
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IF YOU DON'T PLAY RETRO SMT GAMES YOU ARE A BITCH AND A WHORE
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>>255030828
Gamestop completely ruins cases with those damned stickers. But anyway, what's your favorite megaten anon?
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>>255031347
He was piss easy compared to anything before, what the hell
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>>255031163
angels are backstabbing bastards

Thor was Gozu Tennoh's right-hand man
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>>255018892
I agree, I went into the game expecting to get sodomised the whole way through and it just never happened. Even Lucifer wasn't particularly difficult, just a ridiculous damage sponge that took ages to kill. The hardest boss I've yet fought in an SMT game, Persona or otherwise, has probably been Shadow Kanji.
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I've never played a MegaTen game before, only Persona. Which one is the best? I've heard Nocturne is bretty gud but also DDS. Or what about Strange Journey?
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Where's my Jack Frost game? I want to get with other frosts and raise He-Hell.
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>>255031347
>>255031442
I found him harder. I ran right around him and came back later.
I am a bad person.
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>>255031683
Jack bro's?
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>>255031539
Nocturne had the reputation of being hard since it was the first of the series most people tried out during the PS2 era, today everybody is begins with Persona and already knows the drill
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>>255031220
Raidou 1 and 2 have real-time combat instead of turn based. Instead of negotiating with demons you capture them in these little tube things. You can also have your demons accompany you in the real world and use them to do certain things, such as having them fly to reach areas you can't get to, read minds, etc.

>>255031127
I actually got it for a really good deal on Ebay. You still might be able to find it for pretty cheap.

>>255031406
At the moment, it's Raidou 1. The combat is not good but everything else I like, especially dem pre-rendered backgrounds. Though my opinion may change since I still need to play Soul Hackers, SMT1/2, both Devil Survivor games, and Persona 1 and 2.
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>>255021357
>Dragon's Dogma is the Dark Souls of Fantasy RPGs
>Dark Souls is not the Dark souls of Fantasy RPGs
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>>255031658
You probably won't like it, it isn't a VN with shitty dungeon crawling.
Strange Journey is glorious.
Nocturne is a very solid experience.
SMT 1 and 2 are really damn good once you get used to them, really all that's aged are the graphics.
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>>255031658
DDS is a smaller and easier entry-level game than Nocturne, play both.
Strange Journey is great, but you might feel intimidated by the mechanics, environment and stuff. It's more enjoyable when you already know what to expect from the series.
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>>255031658
They are all really good. Some people feel 2 is the best if you can get past a few issues. If you want to play something new both Nocturne and IV are good. DDS is basically babies first SMT but still really good. And Strange Journey is amazing. Really just pick one and try it out. Like Persona buffs and debuffs rule the world.
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>>255031539
Persona 4 on easy mode was harder than Nocturne on normal no joke

>my face after shadow mitsuo
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>>255031163
Nocturne isn't about the law-chaos conflict, each character simply has their own view on how the new world should be. I think i like this way better. DeSu did it too.
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>>255032191
Mitsuo is a bitch to deal with but nothing compared to shadow Kanji, what a pain in the ass that fight was.
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>>255031683
The first translated SMT game was a Jack Frost one
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>>255031683
if only you had a virtual boy
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>>255032191
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>>255031032
>Also, you can't tell me IV was harder than I and II.
But it is. Even on normal mode. The only hard mainline game is SJ, mostly because of Mem Aleph.
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>>255021754
>!
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>>255019386
I raised a Parvati up to about level 80, I think. Although it wasn't just that I was particularly fond of her (although I kinda was by the end), it was more that she had a great complement of buffs and debuffs and I couldn't find a fusion that preserved all the ones I wanted to keep. Eventually fused her into a Mithra, though.

Scathach is the fucking cutest, and probably my all-round favourite demon in general, but I wound up evolving her into Skadi because the boss lead me to believe she voided physical and I needed something that did at the time. She's still with me as High Pixie, though.
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>>255014589
Devil Survivor 3 when?
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>>255032031
>>255032117
>>255032175
Thanks for the suggestions. I'll probably be looking at Strange Journey and SMT 2.
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>>255032191
>being this bad at video games
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>excited as shit for DDS on the US PSN because the PAL version was shit
>download it
>turns out it runs like shit and is on the same par as the PAL version.
Strange because P3 ran fine, anyone know how Nocturne is?
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>>255017618
git gud
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>>255032626
She is kind of a slut, though
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>>255019386
Daisoujou

He is viable literally all throughout game, even if you're going for TDE.
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>>255032191
All SMT/Persona games are hard at the start. Since you don't have any spells or abilities to really help you. Once you got to the point where you have a larger selection of demons every game is easy if you know what to use.
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>>255024807
Never played this game. This is the dungeon crawliest music I've ever heard
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>>255032665

>Wanting the piece of shit garbage that is DeSu


>not wanting Quantum Devil Saga
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>>255032591
Either you're wrong or SMT I and II were piss easy and I'm very inclined to believe the former.

You can fucking CHOOSE which skill demons inherit. The game is inherently easier because of this simple fact alone.
If you put all of your points into MAG you were an unstoppable juggernaut. You must have put shit into STR.
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>>255032626
Parvati a best.
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>>255032781
runs fine for me, I'm going after the tunnel bros now and the game is just like on PS2
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If... Translation when?
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>>255033096
Can't there be both?
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>>255033117
Did I say that SMT IV was hard?
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>>255032191
I had skill morphed a team of godly persona's that had end game skills by then with spell master/arm's master
MFW at boss after Kanji's dungeon
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>>255032869
I thought I'd go and look up why you said that.
>Scáthach also grants Cú Chulainn the "friendship of her thighs" when his training is almost complete.
>"friendship of her thighs"
>to her daughter's husband
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>>255032897
Prayer and meditate.jpeg
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>>255032752
Both are nice choices. I say DDS 1 and 2 to get a good handle of the Pass Turn system. It's also one of the easiest games out of all of their games. Since you can switch abilities and other things whenever you want outside of battle. Just takes a while to get them. Focus on Hunter skills first and get the ability to stop stomachache and you should be fine.
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>>255033225
Really?
Runs at about the speed of my PS2 version which is obviously slower where I hear it's supposed to run at the speed of DDS2 which had a 60Hz mode.
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Playing Persona 1. Half the game feels a bit pointless with the mazes just being literal mazes, no reason to explore nooks and crannies.
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>>255033307
I just can't bring myself to believe that SMT I and II were that easy
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>>255033339
Holy shit, I made that image.

you got that from tumblr didn't you
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Are there translations for SMT 1 and 2 on PSX?
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>>255033561
I'm playing the NA version, isn't it 60hz?
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>>255033117
How does spending 5-30mins re-rolling to get the skills you want make something harder?
Unless there really is no way of getting the skills you want in 1 and 2.
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>>255033602
Of course not, you never played the games and finally understood why most bosses in JRPG's are immune to status ailments.
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>>255033789
Someone posted it here when I asked how good were fiends in SMT 3 and should I make them
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>>255020676
Cool guy, well before he got brainwashed and Chaos turned into MUH STRENGTH.
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>>255033853
USA had 60Hz for both
EU only had 60Hz for DDS2
Yet for some reason the US digital version runs at around the same speed as the PAL version which baffles me
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>>255033802
Nope. There was some guy on /smtg/ that said he was working on it, but he disappeared along with any hopes for the project making significant progress.
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>>255033908
1 had no skill inheritance. 2 had very limited skill inheritance that had nothing to do with rerolling.
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>>255033478
Got to reward the training though.
by getting to bang his soon to be wife's milf mother
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>>255034163
weird. Nocturne runs at 60hz for me, DDS1 too but with some framerate drops due to the emulation
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>>255033908
In SMT I demons had fixed skills. There is no difference beetwen recruiting a demon and fusing it. Not that demons are useful for anything in that game besides being meat shields anyway.
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>>255031163
Chiakis dream is a world where the strongest sit at the top of hiearchy. Hiearchy is a Law thing.
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>>255034240
I'm fucking mad. Fucking SMT fans can't catch a goddamn break, meanwhile P4fags get 4 things at once. Fuck this franchise.
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>>255033602
As long as the Bosses doesn't drain or null shock you can Spam Zio and they have a good chance to be stunned. Even if they have some resistance they can still be stunned. And Nerve Bullets made things even easier. The game was pretty broken that way. IV is easy but not in a horrible problem way like that.
>>255033802
Only SNES I feel. And 1 is on iOS and we might see 2.
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>>255034515
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>>255034515
Persona fags will never know the joy of having there games feature Dante from the devil may cry series
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>>255034648
Fucking ATLUS.
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>>255034515
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>>255034641
>And 1 is on iOS and we might see 2.
Y-Yay.... IOShit!
What's a good JRPG series similar to SMT that hasn't gone to shit? I really need a good JRPG to sink my teeth into.
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>>255034515
Be thankful your franchise died peacefully, SMT4 wasn't that bad. Meanwhile in Personaville
>Ultimax already has three DLC characters and it's not even released
>PQ has DLC personas sold individually
Thanks Sega, can't fucking wait to see what they do for Dancing and P5.
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>Playing Soul Hackers
>Talking to some demon about vidya
>SMT? I LOVE THAT, Funky Student is so funny!
>Soul Hackers... what is that?

Oh, Atlus
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>>255033159
If it helps any, I did regret it afterwards. Especially because I only fused Mithra because I wanted something that voided physical for the Lucifer fight, but all his non-elemental attacks are Almighty anyway.
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>>255034765
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>>255035000
Pokemon
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>>255035000
I heard Bravely Default was okay
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>>255035154
More like mediocre
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>>255034515
>not being fan of both and getting five things at once
Your loss.
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>>255035000
Dragon Quest Monster 1 and 2
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>>255034907
we've come to a point where the mainline SMT series is becoming a spin-off and Persona takes over as the massively popular and critically acclaimed franchise everybody knows about
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How come SMT doesn't have a mystery dungeon game yet?
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>>255035032
I didn't want it to die in the first place, why can't P4 die for fuck sake?
>>255035224
>Liking powdered milk from the dryest udder in all JRPGs
>Encouraging them to milk the worst game in the franchise even more
You are the cancer.
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>>255035334
I will hurt you for bringing that idea up
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>>255035317
Can't wait for Persona: Shin Megami Tensei
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>>255035154
I loved Bravely Default but there's a massive problem with it's story. There's a plot twist that really shouldn't have happened that makes the game just completely stop for about 10-15 hours. When they could have just ended at the twist and no one would be upset.
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>>255035334
That's...a pretty good question, actually. It already had games in most subgenres of RPG.
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>>255035334
How come no Jack Frost platformer?
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>>255035105
>>255035154
I need to get a goddamn 3DS then. Is the XL good? I have sausage fingers and the normal model feels like it'll break in my hands.
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Late reminder that IV is tumblr shit
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>>255035497
because you suddenly realized you want it or because you think it would be a bad idea?
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>>255035334
Because turning that into a Roguelike is pure insanity. Hell Fire Emblem x SMT seem like it's going to be an annoying (but fun) game.
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>>255032869
But I like sluts.

Those legs are disgusting, though.
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>>255035701
Reminder that if there's no Kaneko, it's not a real SMT, at least not aesthetically.
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>>255035682
XL is great, people say it has a slightly shitter screen but I don't see it. Besides, the original model already had a shitty screen.
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>>255035334
How about
>Shin Megami Musou
>Shin Megami Team Racing
>Shin Megami Battle of the Ancients
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>tfw no ghost blowjob
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>>255035682
Be sure to get the Etrian odyssey games then. It's the best Atlus series.
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>>255035682
XL is perfect. Good size to hold and fits in your pocket well.
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GUYS HELP!1!!!!

I just started SJ and literally THE WORST FUCKING THING HAPPENED!


I have to name my character, BOTH LAST AND FIRST!!!

I've been sitting here for an hour and I can't figure it out.
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>>255035334
But they're all dungeon crawlers.
Magnetite and MP consumption has to be managed as you delve deeper.
P3 and 4 have randomly generated dungeons.
What new would a mystery dungeon game bring to the series?
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>>255035789
I want it all over my 3ds or vita the idea fit's quite well
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>>255035916
First two sound good
I want Megami Tensei Arena
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>>255036000
Jamal Jackson
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How is devil survivor over clocked? I'm thinking of picking it up.
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>>255035951
>Giving money to ATLUS after what they've done
No, fuck them.
>>255035867
>>255035954
XL it is then.
>>255036078
Will it have stupid ORIGINAL CARACTER DONUT STEEL Robo-girls designed for the waifufag audience?
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>>255035798
>Hamamoon + Hama boost
>permanently kills every one then auto save's
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>>255036000
Name him after yourself like every JRPG. Even if it won't end well you should always do that.
>>255035951
I don't 100% agree with your second part I agree with the first.
>>255036001
Mystery Dungeon is more roguelike than dungeon crawler.
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>>255036000
Doom Guy
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>>255035916
>>255036078
I want to pilot Mara's chariot.
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>>255036000
I know that feel.
Your suffering has only begun.
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>>255036269
Soul Hackers had a robot grill right?
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>>255035032
Persona 4 did an amazing job of making me hate it retroactively with each new "canon" story they shove in. Can't even have the slightest of a bittersweet, satisfying conclusion because god forbid they imply Yu spends all of 1 year away from his friends (that he met only during 1 year away from his other friends), have him visit on vacation nonstop and drag them into more shit because they're incredible and the best!!
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>>255036228
It's different but good
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>>255036000
Yuteru Shitaba
in homage to the massive cowtits the author draws, all results on google's first page will show you why
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>>255036228
Great.
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>>255036278
I really don't know how they could make a Mystery Dungeon based off of SMT.
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>>255036228
Anti gravity tits/10
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I'm playing SMTIV, it's pretty fun but who thought random surprise attacks on the overworld map was a good idea?

>Level 25 or so, wandering, supposed to go to Ikebukuro but the one place I found is locked so wandering around more
>Suddenly 2 Ippon-Datara and a Katana dude
>SURPRISE ATTACK
>BLIGHT
>BLIGHT
>FATAL SWORD
>Game Over

Every time, if at least I could have a physical blocking/repeling demon to fuck with their press turn when it happens.
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>>255036228
It's really good, but then again, I didn't play the original on the DS.

>tfw 5th day and onwards
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>>255036000
>Ese
>Homie
>Holmes
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>>255036000
In this game it's ok to name him after yourself. The team is made up of people from all over the world.
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>>255035317
That already happened even in the MT wiki. This was legitimately the default listed games.
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>>255036528
>google Yuteru Shitaba
>only 6 avatar resolution images visible
What the fuck
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>>255017618
Knock him off
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>>255036228
Combat system made me mad to the point where I dropped it, but from what I played it's good if you don't mind that kind of game or you can look past it.
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>>255036598
Get more Luck or Agility.
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SMTIV EU when?
Isn't it already Q3?
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>>255036269
>not supporting their last good franchise
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>>255036771

I spend one point in both every level (3dex, 1agi, 1 luk) and use all the stat boosters on Flynn, or course.

I have like 35 in both at this point.
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>>255031124
Dude just import it. There are always a few up on ebay
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>>255036598
How did you do your stats?
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>>255036727
not the images.
normal links will take you to galleries
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I don't wanna try to fight this love
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>>255036856
Q3 e-shop exclusive, I feel bad for Europeans. You guys still don't have RF4 either.
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>>255036690
>All that P4 shit
>People are still fucking falling for it
Persona 4's milking is the only thing aside from Lightning milking that's ever made me mad in the world of vidya.
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>>255036575
Like in the pokemon one after you beat them up they reappear and ask you a question answer right and they will join you.

For dungeons make more stand out set pieces then hall way to next room
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>>255037031

See

>>255036942
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>>255037036
Yeah, a little too cow for me
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>>255036923
>tfw Trauma Center is kil

A-At least they didn't remove Derek from Untold, right?
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>>255036269
Nah m8 here's the roster
>Hero and demon Pascal
>Aleph
>Demi-Fiend
>Flynn with a bazooka
>Space Marine
>Raidou
>Serph (with a transformation mechanic)
>King of Bel
>Nemissa
>Mirai
>Piercy
>Maya
>Aigis
>Jack Bros.
>Pixie
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>>255037148
Maybe Catherine 2?
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>>255036598
Save often.
At least this game lets you save anywhere.
I honestly don't have the patience for older SMT titles because they all do this.
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Which ShinMegaTen should I play first
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>>255037065
>You guys still don't have RF4 either
And we never will, it was canceled
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>>255036923
I'd rather let it die now and spare it the fate of being homogenized into the same generic shit most JRPG's are now, in all fairness.
>>255037156
>Demifiend
It's already over, Anon.
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>>255036598
Fuse a demon with Estoma Sword.
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>>255037337
Persona 4
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>>255037337
Demon Gang Wars/Space Hindu Bullshit is a fine place to start.
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>>255037065
Isn't it English only as well?
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>>255037036
Was he one of Wani's artists?
I checked exhentai and there are 2 doujinshi.
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>>255037065
Source on that? I refuse to buy digital at retail price
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>>255036228
Why was the music in Devil Survivor 2 such shit?
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>>255037156

It would make sense for the Four Heavenly Kings to be in too, no? They've been in every single SMT if I recall correctly.
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>>255037337
SMT 1. I'm deadly serious. If you can't handle it, Strange Journey and Nocturne are acceptable too
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>>255037519
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2014/06/shin_megami_tensei_iv_confirmed_for_q3_eshop_release_in_europe
>Unlike the Japanese and North American editions of the game, Shin Megami Tensei IV will not be getting a physical release in Europe — it will be exclusive to the 3DS eShop.
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>>255036465
Yes.

So of course she gets all the porn.
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>>255037048
Why is it okay to discuss DDS but not Persona when they're both SMT spino-HOW DANGEROUS CAN IT BE?
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>>255037501
there's more if you search for "bobobo" and "abradeli kami"
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>>255036947

$94.99 without import cost's
Do I really wan't this
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>>255037686
Because DDS is good.
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>>255037421
Oh, I've played Persona 1\3\4\.
1 and 3 were sweet but 4 was dogshit.
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>>255037574
They're the mid-bosses of arcade mode
Metatron and Beelzebub are bosses.
YHVH and Lucifer are secret hard mode bosses.
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Is there going to be devil survivor 2 for 3ds?
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>megumi
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>>255037686
because DDS works like an easier Nocturne and has no social stuff, it also was its own little thing that never threatened the series
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>>255037519
>>255037639
See this puts me in the same shitty position I was in with Phoenix Wright.
If I buy it then they'll either think "Ah, there's enough interest to make a physical release next time" or "Ahha, those crazy euros will eat our shit with a smile on their face, no need for physical as they seem happy with digital only"
I wish to vote with my wallet but I'm not sure how.

That said I've been buying everything digitally on the Vita and I enjoy the convenience of having everything right there.
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>>255037761
Awesome, thanks.
Those tags really need linking...
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>>255037904
Do YHVH and lucifer go in for a TAG team brawl
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>>255037961
Nobody knows when the hell it's coming out though.
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>>255037639
OH FUCK EVERYTHING

First we don't get fucking SJ, then arena takes for fucking ever to come out here and now we don't even get a fucking mainline game in a physical form. Never mind we should be getting a fucking giant special edition to make up, we don't even get a cd like you always get with these games
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>>255037961
Yes. Break Record was announced ages ago but there's been no updates in quite some time. It's supposed to be released this year in Japan.
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>>255037686
Because it's still digital.

No COMPs, but at least as digital as Nocturne.
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>>255037626
Never touching one until a moon magician convet's the ps1 version with his magic
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>DAT music theme from SMT1's load screen/shops
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Macca Beam
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>>255036765
The fact you can't use the touchscreen to move your units made me drop it.

I mean seriously, what the fuck?
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>>255038035
I'm pretty sure being a niche game is what threatened the series.
Or are you trying to say that people who were going to buy Nocturne decided to spend their money on Persona and it's not possible to own both?
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>>255037781
Can you say no to this face?
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>>255038246
The SNES version is fine though.
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>>255038149
>now we don't even get a fucking mainline game in a physical form
oh, but there is! it's called Persona Q!
eh? what is this SMT you speak of? isn't that just an old name that was attached to our popular Persona franchise?
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>>255038450
Oh stop bitching that a spin off got popular, both are good for different reasons
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>>255037538
fuk u m8
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>>255038450
You should more angry that EU has shit taste in general.
Especially the UK, fuck fifa
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>>255031163
Law and Chaos have a lot in common with each other.
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>>255038619
Yeah, SMT has atmosphere, plot, cool ass designs and lore!
Persona has.... Um, has small dungeons and.. uh, well it HAD good writing in P2 as well as a good cast! But yeah, no, everything after that has mediocre dungeons and shitty everything else.
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>>255038308
no, but Persona is making the social links and waifu following a staple of the franchise, people will hear the name SMT and automatically associate it with Persona's stuff
I'm not talking about financial threat, but the exploitation of the series' main reason of popularity will slowly change the perception about what the series was originally about.
newcomers and persona fans will love it, but people who liked the main SMT games / DDS / raidou and stuff will have to beg for scraps while Persona becomes the new Final Fantasy
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>>255034750
>>255034515
I just realised that it's DMC2 dante that's featured in nocturne....
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>>255038985
Persona 2 hipsters at it again, back to /smtg/
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>>255039060
and there's nothing wrong with this.
no cockiness, no edge, just a few one-liners and powerful attacks
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>>255039060
>mfw that's my favourite Dante design
>>255039098
Plebsona babby, back to your 10 WHICH TWO DIMENSIONAL GIRL IS BEST threads.
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>>255039280
>not enjoying all the games for different reasons
>being this much of a whiny bitch nigga
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>>255038309
But I need food and water to live
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>>255021357
>SMT IV
>The dark souls of PERSONA
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>>255039553
>Having such shit taste you actually find something about P4 appealing
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>>255039014
SMT has always had ways to interact with the story and characters. Wether it is choosing your alignment or negotiating with demons, Social Links are just a variation of those with different emphasis.

You exaggerate things. Go drink a glass of milk and stay out of internet for the day. There's still a healthy number of non-Persona SMT games being made.
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>>255038324
Animation's though the PS1 is so much smoother and ever since my brother loaded a save state 6 hours ago that reverted my save I won't go back until the PS1 version is translated.
Might learn moon as well
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>>255039014
You're making a lot of assumptions about how Atlus run themselves.
Hell they might have just dropped the series all together if not from the money received form Persona.
I understand that you're angry but it's silly to blame a series when you don't know how it's really changing the production of SMT games, you may as well start pointing fingers at EO and Trauma Centre games too.

Also I fucking loved DDS but there doesn't really need to be another one unless it's a HD Nocturne, DDS 1 + 2 collection
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>>255039834
>There's still a healthy number of non-Persona SMT games being made.
Like? Name one coming out in the not-too-distant future, like in the same time window as all this P4 shit coming out.
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>>255039936
SMTxFE
oh wait vaporware
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>>255016694

>Normal encounter music
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>>255039280
I could care less about waifus, Persona 2 had good cast and interesting ending, that's about it, everything else was terrible. At least P3 and 4 were entertaining, had a decent gameplay and atmosphere. I prefer mainline SMT over Persona, and I enjoy them both, but Persona 2 fans diss the newer entries because of how popular they are, and because of milking of 4, (which I must say, has really gotten out of hand), on top of that they completely ignore all the bad things about P2, and mumble "m-muh story/characters".
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>>255039936
SMTxFE
Break Record
They'll probably won't be done before P5 though.
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>>255039834
such as...?
you're delusional if you think Sega (or rather Sammy) will capitalize on what's popular and bringing money
>>255039912
i'm not specifically talking about DDS, i just want more non-Persona games. this isn't an either/or scenario
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>>255040195
Its for mini bosses
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>>255039936
That's pretty unreasonable considering the 4th installment in the main series just came out a year ago.

He didn't say it's getting as much as Persona, he said it's still getting game sand it is.

You really do need to take a timeout man, you're bitter as fuck at people for liking the same thing you do and something else you don't like. That's extremely childish behavior. Persona did not make SMT any less popular, if you believe that you are delusional, if anything it's been what has made Atlus enough money over the last few years to actually stay alive and make non Persona SMT shit.
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What does /v/ think of Shoji?
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>>255039936
Arena is being handled by ArcSys and Persona Q is being handled by the etrian odyssey team so neither of those effect any mainline development.
Golden was easy to shit out as it was a port so most of their time right now is probably on P5.
SMT x FE was confirmed to still being in production at E3 so they'll probably start work on SMT5 (or something like strange journey) once that and Persona 5's done.
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>>255040371
>you're delusional if you think Sega (or rather Sammy) will capitalize on what's popular and bringing money
That's exactly what they're doing by milking P4 though, it's popular and it brings in money.
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>>255040371
>will not capitalize
fixed
>>255040431
not unreasonable if you take into account the numerous P4 stuff coming out
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>>255040563
I like him and enjoy most of his music.
He's not that great at playing the guitar live though and it's always a tad awkward watching him.
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>>255040431
What you talking about it's not even out yet
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>>255040431
>Persona did not make SMT any less popular,
It did the opposite in fact, persona 3 and you could probably argue 4 even more brought huge attention to smt
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>>255036000
does he have a canon name?
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>>255018034

>lifeless

Isn't that the point of the game? I mean, it's a post-apocalyptic setting, right?
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Feel like buying a SMT entry during the 3DS Atlus eshop sale. Which would you guys say is the all around better game, if I could only pick one? I've only played some of Digital Devil Saga 1, it was alright.

On sale till 8/04:
>SMT IV
>SMT Devil Summoner Soul Hackers
>SMT Devil Survivor Overclocked
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>>255040431
you talk as if Persona 4 is only the 4th Persona-related game that atlus made
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>>255032897

Daisoubro.
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>>255041062
Yuropoor here.
I had no idea what SMT was until 2010 when I played P4 and got interested in the mainline games.
I've played and enjoyed them all, though I still need to play the Raidou games
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>>255041182
IV is like the PS2 games, soul hackers is like the old 1st person dungeon crawling ones while OC is more like FF tactics
it's a stretch, but you get the idea
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>>255040739
The P4 spinoffs are shipped out to other people. PQ is by the EO team, Ultimax is from ArcSys, and Dancing is from whoever makes the Miku games. The amount of them might be a bit unreasonable but it's not like Atlus itself is straining to make them.
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>>255030828
I have all of the SMT games on the PS2 (apart from Devil Summoner 2 because I'm a Britfag).

I've only played Persona 3 but I'm looking forward to when I eventually get round to playing the rest of them.
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>>255019090

>grinding

Never did that on P3 and finished it just fine actually. The same could not be said about P4.
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>>255041182
Overclocked is better than Soul Hackers. Can't say of SMT4 for diplomatic reasons.
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>>255041376
You really should. Especially the second one.
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>>255041182
SMT IV.
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>>255040431
>if anything it's been what has made Atlus enough money over the last few years to actually stay alive and make non Persona SMT shit
And look at how much non Persona shit we've gotten since then! Good too see all those P4 dollars went to a good use, MORE P4!
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>>255041221
See >>255040581
It pretty much is man, most spin offs are handled largely by others.
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>>255041591
You act like we have got new P4 stuff since the game came out. There was a lull where a load of smt was the thing they were doing and the best persona got was a few remakes. Now the P4 stuff that was in the works is coming out and smt is in the works which will come out sometime after P5
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The Nocturne 4koma that got scanned looks entertaining.
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I started P3_P_ a few days ago. It's my first SMT game and I'm having a blast. Which one should I play next? Are SJ and Nocturne good beginner games?
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>>255042291
I'll believe that when I see it.
Even so, Kaneko isn't coming back anytime soon, is he? It's a shame, his art really made SMT standout in my opinion.
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>>255042561
>SJ
No, nocturnes okay. DDS is the best gateway though.
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>>255042561
Nocturne is, SJ not so much despite being a beter game.
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>>255042561
>p3p first
lol
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How should i build my Noc MC? I got it on psn and have never played it before.
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>>255024807
I wish Atlus would stop giving the iOS version(s) translation and instead do the PS1 ports so people with a PS3, Vita or PSP could play them
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>>255042605
You have seen it. You lived through when what they had was persona in the works and smt being released. They aren't going to release a new full smt game a year, they don't even do that for persona which is getting stuff by different studios
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>>255042561
SJ is fine, I don't know why people are telling you it isn't
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>>255042815
physical
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>>255042561
Nocturne for battle system, fusions and atmosphe.
DDS for battles, character and story
Strange Journey for dungeons and demon negotiations.
Persona 4 for more of the same as Persona 3.
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>>255028656
It'd be perfect if we got
>Nocturne + Both DDS games in one package
>Both Raidou games in one package (Raidou 1 has Raidou 2's gameplay)
>Strange Journey revamp for the 3DS a la EOU
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>>255043045
Chaosfag.
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>>255043050
cool thx
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>>255041182
Fuck you guys, why do we have shit sales in EU.
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>>255043461
Maybe Europe is the wrong alignment so Atlus hates us
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>>255043061
Oh and SJ also has great fusion mechanics. Wonder why that slipped my mind.
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>tfw nobody here played best SMT spinoff
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>>255043929
That game is weird
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>>255044004
I want some SMT from PSN

Digital Devil Saga? Raidou? Nocturne?

Help me pick
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>>255042561
>P3P for first time
>not FES
You dun fucked up.
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>>255044242
Want a challenge? Nocturne
Never played the series? DDS 1 and then DDS 2
Hate turn based content, but love absurdly high encounter rates? Raidou
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>>255043929
I recently got that factory sealed for $15. I like the combat and everything, I'm just tired of being in the same shitty body for the last 4 stages. I want to brain jack a new character already!
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that feel when the xbox game will never be translated
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>>255044443
what about setting and music?
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>>255021357

>Shin Megami Tensei IV - The Dark Souls of Persona games

This shit heats me. Persona 4 I really thought was harder than SMT4. Once you beat Medusa, SMT4 is a long downhill coast while referencing google maps to know where the hell some district in Tokyo was.
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>>255044361
My laptop's a toaster. I'm surprised it can emulate PSP with no issues.
I can just watch the cutscenes when I finish the game, and The Answer is apparently shit.
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>>255044593
Nocturne has the best setting, DDS best music, Raidou for more varied gameplay
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>>255044361
>not wanting control of party
>wanting to play the fan fiction
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>>255044921
>wanting easy mode
>not wanting to run around town with your hands in your pockets
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>>255044729
FES is much harder because your companions are controlled by godawful AI that you struggle to coerce into not fucking you over.
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>>255044361
No reason to play FES unless you like watching movies. P3P has more worthwhile content.
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>>255045095
Originally not being able to control your party memebers was bullshit, it only added annoyance. I kinda like how streamlined the town stuff became though the complete lack of models gets annoying at points
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>>255030047

I've played every mainline SMT and every Persona except 2.

Survivor is a mean motherfucker.
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So I've been playing IV recently, and I'm actually pleasantly surprised.
I never heard any consistent opinions about it here, some say it's great, some think it's eh, and /vg/ seems to generally think it's good.

I'm really enjoying it so far, been finding lots of callbacks to SMT1/2 and the presentation and music are fantastic.

New demon designs are shit, but I liked Minotaur, and the story has been engaging enough and brought back the whole chaos/law dude thing.

Difficulty is average, but after I learned to buff/debuff Nocturne wasn't that challenging either save for fiend battles.

All in all I like it, different feel to 3 but still pretty fun so far

What did you guys think?
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anyone got any good low level passwords for SJ?

I found one for a level 4 Ishtar but it looks way too OP for use for a first playthrough.
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>>255030724
>Persotards will never shut up about the two worst "Games" in their series
They don't really talk about Persona 1 or 2, though
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>>255033096
Most boring MC ever
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>>255030047

DS is full of bullshit, fuck those escort missions and Beldr,

Still, i think that nocturne is considerably harder.
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>>255045718
I expected it not to be as good as the hype, mainly because people were fascinated with Nocturne being HARDCOAR (before the Souls fad existed)
I liked it, hope the series continues.
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>>255045718
Magic seems really strong compared to physical.
I wanted to do a neutral run as physical but am pretty underwhelmed by my performance.
Dungeons are lame and the lack of random encounters is really nice.
Other than that it is just as good as any other SMT.
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>tfw some kids at school found out I like SMT
>They make fun of me by calling me "Shin Meganium Tenchi"

Why does it hurt so much, /v/?
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>>255030913

>you will never be the lord of the throne of bel and suck yoohoo's tits everyday
>you will never see YHVH as a cool father again

I miss that summer playing DS.
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>>255046490
Shouldve just stuck with Persona 3 and 4 like the cool kids
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>>255046490
I don't get it.
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>>255034402

But the stronger controls the weak for their "own good" on law, because they see control as a way to protect them. Chiaki just want to destroy the weak because they don't deserve to live.
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>>255035464

keep mad while i enjoy games
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>>255045881
AiAJoOxB-UhguEcg
wkhZukNgwiPagkhk

Pretty good, got me through a good part of the game.
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>>255035464
Personafags will just get tired of P4 one day or another, right?

Right?
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>>255031340
They said it will be as far from 4 as 3 was from 2.

I will not give up faith that this is true until I see it.
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>>255047706
I'm way tired of it.
I just want P5 already.
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>>255047710
Hashino said P3/P4 fans will feel "right at home" in the latest interview

There's no hope, anon
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Abbadon and Aciel's models are just too hilarious to not use in nocturne.
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>>255032031

I gost lost in the shopping because all the walls looked the same
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>>255048129
That's why there's a map on the lower screen nigga.
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>>255047368
As said before, Nocturne's endings don't fit into Law/Chaos dichotomy. I just mentioned there are lawful elements present in Chiakis route.
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>>255047924
I love those games, but I wanna move on. Do something new.

Is there someway to revolutionize the social link? It might be the only way to keep the game fresh without alienating the 3/4 fans.
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>>255048342

i'm talking about SMT 1 and 2 on the SNES.
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>>255047924
When did you first realize that you can't read?
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>>255047638
It's not working for me
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>>255048438
>I love those games, but I wanna move on. Do something new.

Not the rest of the fanbase, they reject all the other SMT games that aren't exactly like P3/P4 so something new would be a pretty big risk
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>>255048438
What if social links could affect each other?

>romance a girl that Character A likes
>Character A's social link goes down a few ranks
>you can make it up to him by hooking him up with Character B, which increases Character B's social link
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>>255048934
Just stop this nonsense already.
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>>255048910
I KNOW
IT'S A FAKE PASSWORD
LOL
I MADE YOU TYPE ALL THAT SHIT OVER NOTHING
TAKE THAT SOME DUDE
ME:1
YOU:0
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>>255046490
>tenchi
dat bathhouse episode
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>>255049191
haha, you got me
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>>255048518
Cast the map spell.
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>>255047942
it's like the demonic god of Digglets
if someone unearthed that thing, the rest of the body would be smaller than the head itself
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>>255049119
Just telling it like it is, man
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I honestly don't get the appeal of Persona. The type of social sim that takes up half the game (and is the main draw, I guess) holds no interest for me, while the RPG half feels really lazily made and shallow.
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>>255049191
you have a tiny dick
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>>255049474
>>255049474
If you digged enough, would you reach the other end of Tokyo? Would you go "outside"? How does it work?
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>>255049527
>implying it's not average size
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>>255049525
The appeal is the Social sim, thats why waifufags make up the fanbase
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>>255049508
You don't know anything about the Persona fans. You're just an angry faggot making a fool of himself on the internet. You only see what you wish to see, instead of how things actually are.
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>>255049771
You just posted mine.
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>>255049880
I like the social sim for getting to know characters and such, not for waifus.

And I'm a sucker for JRPGs.
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>>255049739
unless you have an impenetrable digging vehicle, it would get crushed by the water pressure and melted by the lava in the planet's core, not to mention risking an encounter with whatever lives down there since no one ever found out what's at the bottom
if you survived all of that, sure, you would end up at the opposite side's surface
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>>255049360

wat
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>>255050270
Mapper. Law Hero and Heroine learn it, but that anon did not take into account you're not that far yet in the game.
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If there's anything I loved about Nocturne, it was the feeling of being truly alone in a place where people didn't give a shit about you.

I just want something that has a similarly oppressive atmosphere.
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>>255050270
the team mate who represents law has a map spell it makes a mini map
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>>255049880
I just don't get why that sort of thing is popular. It's going around the same few areas, and selecting the same couple of options to boost a stat so you can talk to people, be a yes-man, and get EXP bonuses. For me, there are a lot of character focused games I'd rather play that aren't so repetitive.
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>>255050235
You gotta remember that the Vortex world is a spiral, and we inhabit the inner part of it.
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>>255049920
>You only see what you wish to see, instead of how things actually are.
If you think P5 is going to be any different then this is you
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>>255050504
You're confused as to why. The fans would probably appreciate a new Persona game. It's lazy companies that do "same old, same old" out of fear of alienating.

You're saying it all the fans' fault.
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>>255050494
no problem, it would naturally push you out of the extremities
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>>255036000
Joseph Joestar
In memorian of LPBro ;_;
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>>255035925

more demon waifus
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>>255038296

optional
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>>255019386
Always thought Ose was cool.
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>>255037538
Are you fucking serious, mate?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6cCqW9Fs5w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxRXBxRux4I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSmYjFRFdxQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyhqyV9YDZc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zyu-BSdma3g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AlIG9E47cU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPqancUsgVw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpQ3sVVdG9Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X4IkbnDF2k
I can go on
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>>255039014

yes blame everything on persona
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>>255030828
>buying the psn versions when you already legally own the game and can play in true HD with widescreen on pcsx2.

I guess it's convenient, buy the PSN version still has the shitty low bitrate compressed soundtrack.
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>>255051626
he'd be a better antagonist than being just a disposable sidekick
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>>255037096

they're still good games
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>>255051898
look at all those other SMT games Atlus is making! so much variety!
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>>255052171

Bro we had Strange Journey and SMTIV.

I agree it's not much but the series is not dead.
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>>255040563
He's alright
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>>255040563

i like his style
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>>255036000
Johan Joestar
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>>255039014
>people will hear the name SMT and automatically associate it with Persona's stuff
Its already happening
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>>255050436
You're running out of lympha.
You're dying.
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>>255019386
>tfw bouncing a whole-team spell back at a boss
feels good man
Also what >>255032897 said. As long as he isn't OHKO'd from an attack, you could bring anywhere at almost any level
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What kind of interactions do you guys expect in SMTxFE?
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>>255054208
Lucina x Lucifer OTP
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>>255054323
>angel incest
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>>255054102
I thought this was a walking simulator
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>>255054689
Not at all.
I'm not even sure how you would get that impression.
It's more of a resource management/drawing/suffering simulator.

Can elemental bullets in SMT IV crit?
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>CAN'T FIND/BUY SMT: OVERCLOCKED
>SMTIV STILL ISN'T RELEASED IN YUROPE/AUSTRALIA YET

LIFE IS TRULY SUFFERING
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>>255056886
You aren't really missing out on much by not having SMTIV
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>>255057387
Am I the only one that likes this?
He looks good in game.
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