>"If you like video games so much anon why don't

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Because I'm lazy

Because I hate coding

Because fuck coding.

Whachu talkin' 'bout, OP?
I have.

>>254730445
I don't mix work with play.

Shit's hard. I don't even know where to start.

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>>254730445
Because I've already made a few.

No good ideas to contribute to industry except atmospheric horror games and space sims.
Actually brb developing

I do, I'm just incredibly shitty at it because the only thing I can actually do is code.

its easier to play the games than it is to make them

>>254730445
downloaded unity and game maker and I have no idea what I'm doing and hate the idea of making garbage practice games.

>>254730445
>implying I like video games

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I like playing them, not making them.

Its like telling someone "if you like books so much why dont you write one?"

Because the experience I have with making games severely reduced the enjoyment I got out of playing them at the time. So i stick to enjoying the final product.

>looking for a first job
>mom: "you like video games, how about game stop?"

Because i suck dick at anything more than basic math so i cant code worth shit.

But I hate video games.

I like sausage, but I don't particularly want to make it.

>Not reconstructing old Atari and Namco arcade games to learn the basics of good game design and clever coding

You will never feel satisfied until you make a shitty Galaga clone.

>>254730747
If you truly love a job, then you'll never work a day in your life

You don't have to participate in an industry to enjoy it's output. Just about everyone watches movies or listens to music, but only a relatively small portion of the population actually create for those mediums.

>>254731054
I have made like... so many garbage practice games. They're now to the point where they'd be perfectly legit "indie" titles if I has the means & willpower to expand on the framework, have art, have music, have more than 1 level, have everything else. But still I do not finish a game because like >>254730915
things that aren't coding are hard.

>>254731173
"You like food so much, why don't you cook?"

>>254730445
>If you don't like america why don't you get out?
>Why do you waste food? There's africans dying of hunger!
>What do you mean you can't get a girlfriend? Just be yourself!
>You're depressed? Lol good, the world is your oyster :o) go on an adventure

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>>254730445
>"If you like movies so much, why don't you direct them :)"

Because I'm terrible at programming and art

>>254731373
Bullshit, if you truly love a job then your work will be gratifying. Whoever tried to sell you this "work is just like play" garbage is a retard. I can love what I do and still want to take a break from it from time to time to enjoy something leisurely.

>>254731373
Psychology major please go

>>254731468
But cooking is fun anon!

>>254730813
It seems fun.

>>254731605
Also a form of art too

>>254730445
I made 3 but they all suck.

>>254731373
HA ha ha ha ha.

Videogame industry is full of suckers like these who've had their hopes and dreams crushed.

>>254731605
It really is, but the pay is really shit unless you get hired as a private chef or somewhere very prestigious

>>254731672
The difficulty is fixed and it's easy to cheat the scoring system by dying to reset the wave.

>tfw no motivation
>tfw can't art
>tfw you will never just like make game
hold me /v/

>>254730445
So You Want to Work in the Video Game Industry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGar7KC6Wiw

I made my own game. Three of them actually

>>254731373
This is something only a naive highschooler says.

Work is work, whether you love it or not.

>>254730445
I do actually, I build MMORPG private servers using leaked commercial source code.

>>254730445
I'd love to, i really would but i dont even have an idea of what skill sets and resoruces I need to actually start at that.


I guess you could say im An idea guy

>>254730445
Cuz making someting ain da same as experiencing da thing, ya know man, if i make a vidya gaem I cant experience da vidya gaem, because i already spoiled the plot for myself, know what im sayin

>>254731913
You know that video is directed toward children who think they can join the video game industry with no degree.

>>254732136
>I guess you could say im An idea guy
I'm the same way too anon. I just never tell anybody that because it sounds retarded.

>>254732006
This. I work in health care and employees moan and groan when they clock in, wondering what kind of asshole patients they'll get today. In the end, you put on a professional front and do your job. Now good patients, they're awesome. Anyone would go the extra mile to make sure they're comfortable and well taken care of.

>>254732006

How is it "work" if it's basically a hobby that you're getting paid for?

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>>254730445
I've been thinking of getting Game Maker and start learning to make games in my spare time but I don't think I would ever release them. Putting out a game that looks like this would be shameful.

>>254732136
>I don't have an idea of what skill sets and resources I'd need

There's this amazing thing called the internet, where you can search for information you don't know.

Don't say you'd "love to, really would" then follow it up with "but I don't actually want to even look up what I'd need to learn to do so".

>>254732450
Because then you associate your hobby with work and start to hate it

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>If you like chlorine so much why don't you drink it :^)

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>>254730445
Working on it.

Coding is hard.

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Because I never learned to code and I have no creativity what so ever.

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Games industry in belgium is ded and i'm not the ideas kinda guy.
I'm studying for coding tho

>>254730445
I am. It's just that I'm slow at everything
>release date 2030

Working on a 3D action game in Unity

It's coming pretty slow, but I'll start making official prealpha demos once the main character's rigged up and ready to go.

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>"If you like Pussy so much why don't you get a sex change? :)"

>>254730445
>playing vidya is exactly the same as making games!

I am working on making a game, my art sucks currently though so I'm working on that first, but actual game progress? zilch. It's not so easy to make a good, fun game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTSGp4UdEvQ
Replace "novel" with "game" and you have me.

>>254732587
Still yet to see a tranny that doesn't look like a fag in makeup.

Sounds to me like you anons need to start small.
Do what all those scene faggots in the 80's did:
Make an arcade clone and replace the characters with some woodland animals.

I like females, it doesn't mean I want to be one.

Damnit of course I do, we all do

>>254732970
pound my sweet ass pussy please

>>254732846
If men can have feminine penises can women have masculine vaginas?

>>254730445
too much work
i rather enjoy what other people did

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Because I don't like video games. Nobody does. They're just an escape for losers like me because we can't get laid or have normal social lives.

>tfw no gf

>>254730445

Because I admit I don't have the will power to learn programming and the essentials to get hired for any legitimate company.

I'm not foolish enough to believe simply taking design courses will suffice in the job world

I do however have a dream. I'm currently a communications major. Focusing on journalism. I'll probably start as a grunt at some company in LA since that's where I live, but I'd love to legitimize game journalism.

I'm fed up with the shlock and bullshit that big sites make consumers have to deal with. Movie , food and other media/consumption critics can do and say what ever the fuck they want and are more or less out to support to consumer, not the producer

It won't be easy, maybe not even achievable but I want to try.

Because the only friends I have that can program/do sound are huge flakes.

>>254732059
In ENGLISH, please

>>254733239
Speak for yourself, nerd.

>working on a game for the last 8 years
>buggy as fuck
>doesn't work unless you have about 8gb of ram
>will crash after playing for 30 minutes
>the game itself is about 60gb because it's a complete mess and I don't even know what's used and what isn't
>99% of the assets are borrowed from other games because I don't have an artistic bone in my body
>can't upload it anywhere because my upload speed is snails

>>254733081
Sure, think of fuckhueg erect clitorises

>>254733316
We have 2 hours until this ship explodes.

>>254733239
Nope. I love video games.

>>254730445
I also enjoy driving my car and have no desire to build one.

>>254731913
>Nothing can take away my love of vdeoe games
This video is hilarious.

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>>254733412
Sweet sweet girl boners

>>254730445
>implying Im not

>>254733239
>TFW married to gammer.
>Get sex when I want.
>Play games when I want.

>>254733316
do you have some type of mental disease?

I can just imagine some 50something guy with a beer gut telling me this.

>You like football so much, why don't you go play it? Oh wait...

>>254733626
>tfw lying on the internet
sextape or fuck off

>>254730445
I've never really wanted to.

Making vidya is not hard. Especially nowadays. There are a shitload of tools and documentation to help you create a game which require little to no coding.

The #1 reason people don't make video games is easy: it takes a lot of time. Designing, building, testing, etc. You really have to push yourself to continue.

>>254732473
You could make a Tetris clone?

>Relatives always ask why I don't get a career in game development
>Always tell them I don't want a dead end job working for peanuts and long hours
The people making the real money in video games are the ones with business degrees.

Anyone need a musician? ;_;

Can also help with game design (same as everyone...)

>>254733763
I always felt that using a bunch of tools without actually knowing how to code was like cheating. I'm not opposed to using tools, they're very helpful, but I made sure gain coding powers, first.

>>254732267
It's not like having a degree is the holy grail.

Videogame industry is infamous for its death marches (where you work day and night and weekends too without proper overtime compensation because your shit needs to get done and if it don't turn out right, the disaster of a project will probably get you fired).

>>254730445
>implying
Nigga I have my own private M2TW mod.

>>254733398
stream yourself playing it?

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>>254733971

>>254733980
>the disaster of a project will probably get you fired
It will also ruin your references when you apply for another job with either a shait failure or mysterious gap of time on your CV.

>>254733971
I need one, actually no pay, since its a small project and its gonna be free

>>254734114
>Stream
>Upload speed is "snails"

I am extremely uncreative. I've been playing games for 20 years and have never had a thought along the lines of "oh man this would make an awesome game"

After factoring that the only other aspect of 'making' a game would be the coding, and while I do enjoy writing code I don't enjoy the stupidly competitive job market, the shit hours, and even worse pay.

>>254734221

Show me.

>>254733480
You're just in denial anon. The loneliness hurts so much that you lie to yourself and try to convince yourself you're happy in order to make it go away. But it's not real happiness, just a delusion.

>>254733626
>marrying a video game playing loser

>>254732006
My 53 year old dad says that.

>>254733626
>Read as "TFW married to grammar"
>That sentence doesn't even use proper grammar

>>254732421
What's your definition of a good patient?

>>254732450
Because you will grow sick of it. You will hate any and all "professional" fronts that come with it.

You become aware of things that happen behind the current, and you grow to despise it.

Work is not play time, work is not fun, work is exactly what it is, work. If you wish to destroy the love of your hobby by thinking, "Wow, I can get paid for doing things I like!" then by all means, please do so.

Don't mix work with play.

>>254733626
But why would you ever want to play video games when you could just have sex instead? Once you can get regular sex, embarrassing hobbies like video games are no longer needed to fill the void, and you can finally have a full and happy life.

>>254734649
Your dad understands what words mean.
>Google, "work: activity involving mental or physical effort done in order to achieve a purpose or result."
It has absolutely nothing to do with enjoying the process or not.

>>254734582
Stop projecting so hard. I'm hardly lonely, I live in a house with 9 other people. One of which being my girlfriend.

If anything I'm around too many people. I could do with more alone time.

>>254732665
Isn't this the guy who won a lottery and then begged for money on kikestarter?

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>>254734429
we are in 3D modeling process
meanwhile a friend is coding shit
I posted this while ago, we changed some things since some of you faggets told me that it looks like some fire emblem cunt

>>254735127
That looks extremely generic, but sweet.

>>254731493
I really hate that last one, like shit son if I ad the resources necessary to go on some grand excursion i'd be moping around here?

>>254735127
Enjoy him doing work for 'bout 3 weeks and then cut all contact with you

>>254735006
>Implying there is such a thing as being around too many people.
>Implying people actually want alone time.

Humans are social animals, anon. The more people you socialize with the happier you will feel. Shit like introversion and asexuality aren't real, they're just excuses that socially retarded people made up to seem less pathetic to others.

I actually did this

I learned C++ and SFML and OpenGL

Then I realised I fucking hated it and I hated videogames and I suck at original thought

I made a platformer engine which is fucking shit and everything moves jerkily and obviously ive missed the intricacies of it all because weird errors and shit happen for no reason whatsoever, like your guy will stop and sink into the ground for no fucking reason, I cant figure it out because im a shitty programmer, I realised how absurd it all was and replaced all the graphics with Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff graphics and put a really loud blaring song in the background that loops randomly and a malfunctioning menu system, I wish I could find it on my HD, id post it if I could

>>254735379
>Implying people actually want alone time.
>implying people don't want to be alone sometimes

>>254733973
> gain coding powers, first
True, but don't go too far. Creating your own 3D engine is a complete job. There's nothing wrong with using existing software / libraries. Just make sure that the end result is something you made.

Protip: find an aspect of game development you like (story, animations, audio, level editing, etc.) and make a mod for some popular game (this is the main reason I like Skyrim: its Creation Kit).

>>254735127

So it's a jRPG sort of thing? Cool cool. Looks good. Depends on the mood you're aiming for. I can't really do cheerful, upbeat stuff you'd normally find in these sort of games. It just ain't in me.

If it's more melancholic/moody in nature then it could work.

>>254732450
It takes long, tends to go wrong a lot, and the behind the scenes stuff isn't particularly exciting either. Pretty much stuff you already know if you've ever tried to make anything even resembling a game.

>>254734232
there's always JewTube

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>>254735361
we all know each other IRL
I know where he lives and where he works

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>>254732882

because i cant enjoy my fream game if i already know how its gonna be as a whole.
[spolier]tfw no good souls and witcher combo game will be released[/spoiler];-;[/spolier]

>>254735664
So you're bound to fail, great.

>>254733980
If you're wondering why death marches happen so often, it's because publishers have deadlines like, say, the holiday season. Now, add in the possibility of unrealistic expectations from the game pitch (thanks sales aka "those guys who will sell a product based on shit they think can totally be done while the developers would say FUCK OFF WE CANT DO THAT" then collect a bonus for making a deal while the dev team gets fucked) conflicting with the game designer's vision conflicting with marketing's "Do X Y Z for sales plz" dictates and you wind up with so much shit that gets wasted left and right before we even get into testing shit and discovering what features don't work. You basically go back and forth and crank out stuff that will never make it to the final product and funny ideas that sounded good until you actually seriously attempted to code them... oh yeah. Then near the end shit hits the fan, whips get cracking and you have to work overtime to crank out something playable before release.

Good companies are better about this, but even they tend to suffer from ginormous overtimes.

Or you can work for like Valve who will just release shit at whatever pace they want.

>>254730445
I don't like video games.

>>254732267
The skills are what you need
the degree is just proof
kind of

>>254731258
>Friend tries to get me a job at gamestop
>Read about how it got a load of awards for apparently being a good place to work out
>Go there
>Some freakish midget hispanic asian hybrid in a leather jacket and gel spiked hair
>Knows jack diddly about videogames
>Freaky mutant leatherman gets the job
>Learn about how shit is to work there
>Hispasian faggot ended up killing himself 5 days later
Was weird.

>>254735841
Spoken like a true /v/ member.

>>254735976
Just think... that could have been you.

>>254730445
I'm too stupid to program and there's enough "idea guys".

I'll probbly try again in the future.

>>254735542
Normal people don't want to be alone. It makes them feel lonely and sad. They want to be with people all the time, that's why they invented Myspace, Facebook, constantly text everybody they know, etc. It's all in the name of filling that void during the few measly hours a day they can't be with other people.

Nobody with a real social life would say he desires "alone time" only losers lying to themselves do that. If you truly, legitimately desire alone time then there is something wrong with you. It's not something humans are programmed to want.

>>254730445

been there
done that

that world is so full of shit I'm studying something completely unrelated

>>254736223
Yeah. Almost glad I didn't get the job. Being unemployed sucks majorly though.

>>254733971
link me a song, music boy

>>254736264
>Miserable extrovert trying to convince everyone else that introverts are mythical creatures so he doesnt look like a clingy faggot

I really want to but I have no clue where to start.

>>254736964

>http://nicholasgavan.bandcamp.com/

Two others, less ambient tracks from a project that sadly fell apart.
>https://soundcloud.com/wounds-sound-design/in-sooth-looking-at-the-waves
>https://soundcloud.com/wounds-sound-design/in-the-village

>>254737194
It's nice. What happened to the game. Did the lead dev break his butt taking a dildo he couldn't handle or something?

>>254737607
Something like that I guess. He sort of emailed me after a quite lengthy radio silence saying that the game is off cause he needs to focus on his personal life and cannot complete the project alone yada yada. Shame, it could be cool and the guy was really driven for first couple of months.

tigs thread for some art and shit
>http://forums.tigsource.com/index.php?topic=37112.0

>>254737194
nice tracks
so comfy

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>>254738036
Welp, just noticed he deleted the art.

Disregard the link then.

because I cannot imagine a circle of hell worse than being a part of an average video game company
-treated like trash
-paid like trash
-no ideas of yours will ever be implemented
-you will create day 1 dlc

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>>254731912
I know this feeling all too well anon. I'm fighting it a little bit more every day.

All I can do is draw ok and basic java. I'm like the red mage of videogame development.

You like social media so much, why don't you work for them?

Not everyone is born a coder.

>>254738760
>tfw kinda can art
>decide to git gud and bring my art to professional levels to work in the industry
>1 year later I collapse in exhaustion and depression, losing all motivation
>tfw learning to draw is the hardest fucking god damn thing in the universe

Anyone wanna make a hack 'n slash game with techno vikings with me? :3

I have made one using game maker, now can I go back to shitposting and playing video games now?

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>if you like eating so much, why don't you become a chef?

I can't code, so I just write shit and eventually, maybe I'll get super rich and hire people to make the fucking game

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I marbledev when I get the chance

Because I have an actual job, so no time. Also I discovered back in high school that I'm terrible at programming.

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>>254739015
>tfw depressed as shit
>decide to fucking do something about it one day
>all I have ever been able to do is draw stick figures
>look up some tutorials, draw for awhile
>suddenly I have a pretty good picture of my cat, looks like a real artists pencil sketch
>highonlife.gif
>come crashing down when I try to draw something the next day
Been learning piano too, it's a good feeling when things finally come together.

>>254739309
that looks really fun. do you have a download or anything?

I would love to be the guy who comes up with the idea for the game, creates it story and world and how it plays etc.

Designer i think.

>>254739592
not at the moment, but I will probably throw a couple level download up in a week or so

>>254739620
Ideaman is a useless job since designers are generally just lead artists/coders. Unless you've got the skill to make design docs and concept art you need to sharpen up a skillset.

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>>254730445
>"If you like women so much anon why don't you have a gf :)"

>>254739025
as long as its 2d I'll do the coding

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>being a hermit codemonkey suffering from scoliosis rather than enjoy a finished game while giving up only a trivial amount of shekels

>implyign

>>254730445
Its not that simple,buddy.

>>254739258
Because most of /v/ only drinks water and only eats raw vegetables, and is disgusted at the mere thought of somebody eating or drinking anything else. In their perfect world, chefs wouldn't even exist.

>>254739978
Yup. Think the GBA version of Return of the King, only with techno vikings.

>>254739884
>that pic
I laughed

>not just pirating UE4 and dicking around in it

Shit's fun.

I can never settle on an idea long enough to make it.

I'm working on a game in RPG Maker. I'm using stolen scripts because I can't code. I'm going to make the sprites from scratch though. Since I can't find an music maker as accessible as Mario Paint, I'll likely just use stolen midis as well. Right now all I have to show for it is a single sprite and two boss portraits. I have a friend helping me with large portraits but she would rather blog about her self-pity than do the work I give her, so as soon as I can find an artist who isn't a complete faggot, I'm giving her the boot.

>>254736264
Literally every single person I've ever met wants alone time from time to time.

>>254739470
>come crashing down when I try to draw something the next day
yup basically this.

I'm drawing less and less often the last year, my habits have devolved into "hate drawing for 3 months, draw ONE picture, like it, hate it the next day, another 3 month block"

At this point it's just a waste of fucking time. Also now that all art does is piss me off, if I'm gonna get a job I hate anyway I may as well do something that doesn't pay as horribly as art does.

>tfw last 2 years of life were a complete waste

I'd like to compose but there's so much competition out there and I'm not that confident in my abilities.
I'd like to learn other things but feel I'm too far behind to learn to draw or code my own stuff
Maybe if I learned each aspect enough so that I could just get my ideas across to to other people.... I dunno

coding makes me want to kill myself

>>254739620
Literally everyone and their dog would like that job. That's why no one has that job.

You need to contribute a lot more to the actual product, learn to draw or model or animate or make music

I could come up with plots, direct cutscenes, animation stills, art, hell. Maybe even voice act. I've just accepted the fact my dream if making games is unobtainable, so I'm forced to get a degree in business association, because all my aspirations are too high.

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>>254730445
>"If you like being a faggot so much, why don't you suck a dick?"
Well OP?

>>254739258
Actually, it's too fucking useful when you live alone

Man, ideaguys are the worst.

Why would I, as a programmer, want to program your ideas? I do that for a living. In my spare time, I work on my own ideas.

learn2code. Object oriented is as easy as any logic puzzle. C# or Java.

>>254741301
>implying im not

>>254732006
Horseshit, I drive a schoolbus for a small city, and it's fucking great. The hardest part about the job is waking up at five AM, but after that I'm golden. Beats the minimum wage by a hell of a lot too.

>>254741404
B-b-but...

>>254741447
Pics of cock in your mouth

>>254741551
But nothing.

If you like SpaceChem, you'll be a great programmer with some devotion.

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>>254741404

>>254736264

I'm an extreme extrovert, and even I get overloaded with human contact and just want to sit in my room, not talk to anybody and play vidya all day sometimes. I mean, I'm still generally social on Twitter, but that's about it.

Granted, if I don't get out for like 3 days in a row I start to get lonely, but I'm in college most of the year so that's not really an issue.

>>254730445
Trying to learn to program

Python
C++
C#

I've seen some Unity tutorials on 2D and puzzle games and some others on the basics of Unity

Just waiting for my laptop to come in

>>254741702
Ruined mah day ;_;

Because programming is beyond my power level.

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>>254741553

>>254741551
Poor you.

>>254740780
>as soon as I can find an artist who isn't a complete faggot
Welp good luck with that anon

>>254741404
learning to program to make games is like learning to write to author novels

>if you like water so much why don't you make it
>if you like air so much why don't you make it
>if you like money so much why don't you make it

dumblogic.txt

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>mfw I'm a game design student
>mfw the most viewed website on every other computer at school is 9gag

Because video game people are treated like slaves by a lot of companies, and get paid like shit

>>254730445
Because I'm a dumb lazy slut

That's literally my job. I develop mobile games

>>254742146
>>254742394
soo, how's hell?

>>254741032
or you could become a famous furry porn artist and make lodesemone

>>254742105
Good luck publishing a novel without knowing basic grammar.

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>>254742146
>game design student

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>>254742143
>if you like money so much why don't you make it
>implying

>>254742394
How's business?

>>254742146
>>254742394
So you guys will be making millions soon, nice

>>254730445
I'm working on it, but I'm also realizing how lazy I am in the end.

>>254730445

Christ no.

I don't want to work in an industry so fucking toxic as video games.

I'd rather work in an actual toxic industry.

>>254742885
I'm gonna make an indie game with some friends and be the next Notch :^)

>>254742479
It's great. I get paid decently and it's an easy job. I come in whenever I want, still live in the Midwest for cheap, and my boss is awesome

Actually, this week my co-workers and boss worked noon to 6am getting our game ready for qa

>>254743074
Good for you, Anon.

>>254742831
what? it's a natural step of any kind of art
>music school
>cinematography school
>videogame school

>>254742146

>9gag

Seriously, why? If you want a worse version of 4chan, go for Reddit. If you want viral images and memes go for Imgur. 9gag is just stupid

I browse imgur at work because I would be fired if I browsed 4chan please don't hate me

>>254743138
is your boss some kind of pussy?

>>254731605
>cooking is fun
Am I the only person who fucking hates cooking? I still do it, and what I can make I'm fairly good at. But oh my fuck do I avoid it if I can, especially if it's just for myself. Would rather cook dinner for myself and at least one other. Just for me? Spaghettios in the microwave.

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I started making my own dream simulator when I lost everything - files, progress, computer, everything. Because I had posted this picture to twitter to gain hype for it, it's all I have left. When I can finally afford a new rig, I'll remake it.

>>254742868
>>254742868
Good as far as I know, they've been around for 5 years and the owners are smart, they know the market pretty well. We're being contracted by a few companies right now, so money's good

Just give me time asshole, I'm still working on learning the coding shit.

Real quick: Unity 3D or UDK?

>>254743497
UE4

>>254740394
Raw vegetables are usually better than cooked, tbh.

>>254743339

I find it stressful and often frustrating even though I'm not bad at it, but I love the feeling of satisfaction and the end result too much to just make microwave meals all the time

>>254743403
Good to hear. Glad you are doing well, Anon :3

>>254743497
UDK
unless you want your game to look like shit.
also knowing unreal is great for a resume

>>254742630
I want to make comics

But furry porn is kinda hot and anything to do with feet will make me rock hard from start to finish. The only thing that will motivate me to draw anymore is to see fetish pictures finished so I can fap

>>254743497
Neither, they will limit you. Make a few big prototypes in whatever language you want.

But if you had to pick, not unity.

>>254730612
>>254730641
codemind

>>254743497
Unity is picking up in game design schools, but UDK is where the industry is at.

UDK.

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>>254731605
I have a problem with this
I sure love cooking and make new and tasty stuff, but I get so fucking mad when someone eats it

>>254730445
I only like playing them

>>254742831
Mobile dev guy here. That's what I did, but I got really lucky. The degree it's worthless. The effort you put into your resume and portfolio gets you a job, the education helps you get started.

My degree place was awesome, but it was unnecessary, if you have motivation. It really helped me learn to program, which I never would have done I my own

>>254743697
>I find it stressful and often frustrating even though I'm not bad at it
I'm in the exact same boat. I do like when people compliment my cooking, like for instance I just made fettuccine alfredo for my girlfriend's father and stepmother, whom normally just buy a jar of alfredo sauce (boggles my mind). They thought it was fucking great (bland imo, I need to do more with it), and it felt good that they really liked it, but I didn't enjoy the process of cooking it in the least.

>>254744116
where'd you go?

>>254744116
perfect, I was thinking about only taking core game design classes, build a resume, and not get a degree. Like why the fuck would I need to take two different Human World Views classes.

>>254744196
Ferris state university. Great people, pretty cheap. But not the best, and certainly won't guarantee you job.

If you live out west, for sure go to gdc to find out what the industry is like. Tons of people will give you advice.

Gdc is pretty mandatory in my opinion. Otherwise, you never really get how to get a job in the industry

>>254730445
I had a dream about a cool game idea
>chillin at the aunty and unc's place with the bro all house of bel-air style
>suddenly bro tells you to deliver something and watch over his job, he orders you a pizza to convince you into it
>he give yous a balloon that inflates and turns into a zeppelin kind of machine
>you get to fly this dope thing around all the way to the city where his job's at
>city is a lot like mirrors edge or watch dogs, really big, you can travel in it by foot and car but who does that when you have a bigass balloon
>once you reach his job you get that delicious pizza, its barbecue
>at the place you make a revelation about some secretive company that he works for that has some cool breakthrough in Things, you gotta help them out
>this gang syndicate wants to fuck the company up, their gang colors are red and they're huge douchebags
>one part in the game involved a timed mission where you had to intercept one of their gang members climbing up a building while those gang members shoot you up with artillery (How the fuck did they get artillery dawg) and pursue you in their cars in the outskirts of the city
>you fly up on the building where the guys at, you gotta stealth up it, cool movement like mirrors edge, or you can just balloon up that bitch
>did I mention you can deliver pizza or order pizza using your balloon

>>254744346
Game design classes are dumb. Learn to model, animate, texture, rig, program, or sculpt.

Any hack can design a game
Where I went there was like 2 classes total for just game design. The rest were all that other stuff I said above

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>>254730445
But I am making games. Right now I'm working on a survival horror game.

YES IT'S PIXEL SHIT THANK YOU. Purely because we can't afford any better and it's made by two guys (well, two more for sounds and music), otherwise we would naturally go with 3D.

We were featured on some websites which is cool, like Kotaku, RPS, etc., most recently in indie game month on N4G:
http://n4g.com/user/blogpost/indiemonth/528253
http://n4g.com/user/blogpost/indiemonth/528251
http://n4g.com/user/blogpost/indiemonth/528252

I don't know.
I'm a programmer and can't think of how any of the concepts I have learned relate to video games.

Nobody ever taught me how to make grafx either.
Like how do I even do that?

>>254734868
Are you stupid? use common sense

>>254730445
Not only would I have to learn how to code, I'd have to come up with a game to put together.

Fuck that.

>>254744975
That's what all of the classes are for. So far I've learned Unity (yeck), Maya, Photoshop, Pro-Tools, and a littler programming. Never would have had the attention span to learn it on my own.

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>>254744830
>delicious pizza
>barbecue
>delicious

>>254744992
Is that made with the Adventure Game creator?
I'd like to get in on that.

>>254745072
Wow... just wow. Why do perverted, manipulative pieces of shit like you have to exist? Humans aren't just objects you can put your penis into whenever you please. They have emotions and dignity. Just because someone refuses to do you sexual favors does NOT, I repeat NOT mean they're bad patients. Fucking asshole...

>>254743387
looks
cool
keep building the dream bro, no one else will

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I do have some ideas for game characters. I'll post them, if you want.

Pic related.

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>>254745385
Nah, Game Maker Studio, which is actually quite nice for 2D. Just use code instead of the stupid drag'n'drop icons.

>>254733081
>feminine penis
Nice meme

>>254745398
what am I missing here...

>>254736264
>Normal people don't want to be alone
False. There are many shades of people. Different kinds.

>>254745654
I'm actually kinda interested here, post more anon.

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>>254742146
>mfw I'm a game dev student
>mfw people browse /v/ and /g/ in the computer labs

>Insipid school announcements video plays at the beginning of class
>What do you want to do when you graduate piece comes on
>Filthy weeb talks about moving to Japan and becoming a video game design master
>Entire room laughs at his faggotry

Ever since that day I've distanced myself as far from video games as possible

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>>254746163
>I'm a game dev student
You're an idiot

>>254746305
Is that not better than design?
I'm learning all the same stuff my CS friends are except I also get classes on OpenGL and shit.

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>>254746127
This fucker's called the Hellraiser. He's a recurring boss, there's a ton of variations on him. Here's one of them.

>>254746430
You can't teach Game Dev. Game Dev is a bunch of shit put together. Marketing, business, Coding, animation, art, graphic design. Software security, etc.

I was gonna make a game about ghost hunters in Savannah until Undertale took what I wanted for a combat system

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>>254746508
Another Hellraiser

>>254746508
>recurring boss that changes form every time you encounter him
and now I have a boner, please continue anon.

I'm making a game to learn how to make a game.
Hopefully it will be done in a month or so, and /v/ will have a night of fun with it.

>>254746551
Not him, but trying to become proficient at all of those skills at once is silly. You should pick a field and focus on that, whether it be programming or 3D animation or business or whatever

>>254746773
That's my whole fucking point, genius. Game Dev is a lot of things. That's why choosing "Game Dev" as a major is the biggest monumental waste of time and money there is.

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>>254746715
Another hellraiser (Oh yeah, I have 2 color palletes for each one)

>>254746737
Yeah, his story is that his robotic head keeps getting placed on a bunch of different robotic bodies so he can be reincarnated time and time again

>>254730445
Because I already have a good job.

I am.

Placeholders stolen from Diablo 1 and 2 everywhere.

I'm starting to think it's too ambitious, from an asset point of view.

>>254746884
>>254746551
>He hasn't played game dev tycoon

you're retarded and no nothing about how real game development works

>>254746960
nothing too ambitious if you're stealing assets.

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I'm actually working on a game myself. The MC is a blind war refugee.

I have an alpha screenshot.

>>254747337
10/10 would look at again

>>254730445
I'm making a table top game

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>>254746887
One more hellraiser for y'all

>>254747113
Well, obviously it's not going to be in the finished product, but once the game is finished, I don't know what I'm going to do about getting art and sound for it.

I could just pay someone, but I'm worried about getting ripped off.

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>>254746884
>Game Dev is a lot of things. That's why choosing "Game Dev" as a major is the biggest monumental waste of time and money there is.

Are you retarded? No major teaches every facet of an entire business, because that isn't how any business works. Like I already said, it focuses almost entirely on programming. It's an offshoot of my school's CS major.

What you're assuming is equally as retarded as thinking architecture majors will teach you carpentry.

>>254735554
Really? go back to listening to NiN

>>254747337
I see some colours in there.

0/10, not blind enough.

>>254747591
Outsourcing assets would really be your only option. Start looking into artists/sound producers you like, I'd suggest looking at various indie games

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I am making a game though. It's an action game (plays like LoZ1) about Free Software.

Don't assume all of us are lazy fucks just because you are OP

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I'm making a touhou fangame

>>254747672
They actually do. Those schools that advertise on TV and subways actually do it.

>>254747337
That would actually be hilarious.

He's, no better yet, SHE'S blind, and the whole game is just you laying in a hospital bed, people talking to you and shit.

Then you get better, but you can't walk any more. Your girlfriend (because ya gotta please those LGBT folks) wheels you around in a wheelchair. By the end, she breaks up with you because you've become too much of a burden.

It ends with the tragic suicide of the blind lesbian war veteran, as she purposefully rolls into traffic.
Plot-twist, the ex-girlfriend is the one who hits her.

I call it "Love is Blind". Gimme a Vidya Oscar.

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>>254732421
>mfw when I check my journals online after any visit to the ER and they always write "The patient was very polite/forthcoming"

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>>254748110
Momiji or bust

>>254748286
No gameplay or graphics necessary. You just have to write some pandering bullshit, and hire some voice actors. A good sound designer, too.

Shit would win awards.

>>254735127
It looks good.

give him an optional helmet, that hangs can hang from his side. plz

>if you like music so much why don't you become a musician
>if you like reading so much why don't you become a writer
>if you like movies so much why don't become a movie director

Everyone knows these don't make sense, so why do they assume the video game industry is some magical world where everyone can get a job simply because it's their hobby?

I wouldn't mind making a simple Flash game. But I know nothing other than art. Where would I even start?

Been programming since I was 9. Ever since I first saw a video game I knew that's what I wanted to do. I programmed games all through college then started doing at as my day job. 20 years later and I still feel like that 9 year old kid. I love video games and programming computers. I feel pretty blessed in that regard.

But even though I love it, it has been hard and there have been times when I have failed and there are times when I have been exploited, but 90% of it has been great.

>>254748034
Yet you post a lazy anime character.

>>254743672
not better for you

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>>254749345
She's not lazy, she's the only squid to even get out of the water, let alone try to take over the world. You're just jealous because you can't make video games.

Because I already have a creative hobby that gets all the girls hot.

>>254743387
Keep at it man
>>254745521
>build the dream
lol

>>254748820
Because these kids don't know the difference between making a shitty 2D "indie" platformer in whatever language their high-school's comp-sci class taught them and making an actual game.
It's like talking about how great it is to be a professional baseball player after you spend a year on your local t-ball team.
It's easy to talk about what you think you're good at, until somebody asks you to actually put them to use.

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>>254749917
You posted an image of when her tentacles were all messed up. Because she was so used to those overpowered things, she couldn't manage well. And how far as the Inkvasion really come? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for the cause, but I like to think I look at it objectively. I have made video games before, C++ & Java varieties

>feelio staring at fruity loops for a month trying to come up with a single song

>>254730445
I'm trying but its hard to move up the latter. I'm just a fucking intern and they won't let me do anything.

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>>254730445
Because I've tried and I got bored and stopped working on it.

>>254750597
>fruity loops
top laughs

>>254748286
fucking saved
Thanks for the Kohaku Medal of Distinguished Shekels

I want to but I can't code and I draw like a 4 year old.

>>254750772
>gamemaker

>>254747672
why wouldnt you just take CS so when you realize the industry sucks you can move into software development and make actual money?

>>254732450
Bahahahaha.

>Video game design being a leisurely hobby.

Someone doesnt know what they are talking about.

>>254730445

Because I'm not chattle to be exploited by the gaming industry.

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>>254745654
>>254746127
>>254746508
>>254746715
>>254746737
>>254746887
>>254747543

Kinda sad that this tween decided to blog and samefag about their latest Deviantart spergfest in a /v/ thread.

>>254751335
Because this is more fun and I'm learning the same skills here

I like plumbing. I'm not going to become a plumber.

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>artfag
>find some guy on tig
>he's pretty quick with coding, whipped up something basic and playable in a day
>oh man finally someone who knows their shit
>always keeps bringing up mobile games
>one day, talk about random design things
>he brings up Extra Credits
>he likes their videos

>>254732450
It's obviously work you moronic piece of shit

>>254751625

Fuck you.

>>>/out/

>>254751751
They are right sometimes

>>254736264
You're a fucking loser, you should seriously kill yourself, while I enjoy my games.

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>>254730445
But I am.

Check it on /m/ if you like Kamen Rider for the Kamen Rider Legacy thread

>>254730445
Because i'm not motivated.
and i'm lazy.

I'm an unmotivated lazy fatbody.

>>254732006
So are you full of shit or just stupid?

>>254744346
If you are going to do that, you might as well just get a real degree like Comp Sci or Software Engineering.

Get it from a technical school like RIT, they wont make you take more than 3 or 4 classes that are outside of your field of study(Out of like 30-40 that you will be taking)

Or do you think you arent man enough to step up and learn math?

>>254752109
He's not full of shit. I think you're just stupid. Whatever helps you sleep.

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>>254752292
>Or do you think you arent man enough to step up and learn math?
I'm not him but math..... oh my god fuck math... Why out of all generations is math the most important in this one.

>>254751625
What the fuck

Because I'm an introvert, who doesn't know any friends that know how to program, so the ideas a write down remain in the corner of my room forever.

>>254752410
No, he's stupid. Only a fucking idiot would think as literally as he does.

>>254752593
Because back in the day everything you used didnt use upper level college math to make it run properly.

Sadly the object you posted that post on was the baby of thousands of people using millions of collective math experience to solve issues.

I feel you though man. If I wasnt doing Comp Sci, I would be doing something with history. I love history.

>>254746430
Are you? Is it actually the same classes or just a separate short little track on programming?

If it is, then you actually go to a decent school, so nice job. But I still don't think a game dev degree is worth nearly as much as a CS one.

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>>254733626
If this is real I hope she becomes a feminist soon and bitches at you 24/7 about how your gave are misogynistic

>>254752884
Almost everybody hates what they do, even if they like it. There is nobody on Earth who absolutely loves what they're doing. Everyone hates work, even if they try to make it seem like it's working out for them, when that too is part of the job.

Keep listening to your high school teachers "find something you like" and then realize in college you think about changing it 5 times and ultimately end up with the same bullshit.

Like I said, keep fucking thinking like that, whatever helps you sleep.

>>254753245
When you find out that the industry is really shitty and you are working double as much as your CS counterparts, but only making half the pay, and you cant switch to a profitable industry because you pidgeonholed yourself into shitty game industry, then you will regret your decision haha.

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>>254753645
Make just want to enlist and work out until the air-force accepts me.
>Fighter Pilots are a dying medium
The fact that I won't be able to live out my dream of being Mobius one doing barrel rolls every 3 seconds not only destroys my spirit but also a bit of my body.

>>254754283
I think you replied to the wrong guy m8, I fully agree that a CS degree is superior

You can always take OpenGL classes or books yourself

>>254747715
Fucking lol'd.

>>254754449
Woops just noticed I did.

Oh well. I am sure the poster will see it.

>>254753645
>Pornstars
>Videogame streamers
Saying everyone hates their jobs is a bit of an overstatement.

>>254753645
>25 years old here
I can agree with this entirely. Just pick anything and work really hard at it.

I'm trying to be an uber game dev, learning to art, code, model, & music on my own.

It's like my own personal hell where I'm a huge leech and have nothing to show for it ever.

I tried to ditch all my friends so I'd have more progress, but it only made things worse and now I have even less motivation.

Please give me the sweet release of death.

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>Going to college with my best friend soon to learn to make vidjyo games
>She's gonna focus on coding & animating
>I'm focusing on the art, story, level & character design
>Might find a guy to make music & other shit for us
I'm a bit more than just an idea guy, cause I've done a lot of level design from 2D games to Doom maps since I was like 12. I also write up shit like the world lore/story of a game, certain mechanics or elements in a game, etc. I'm even prototyping a board game with that friend as a basic intro to defining rules & good game design. I think I'm doing pretty good so far.

Because of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGar7KC6Wiw

>>254756031
Yes, surely you will have ideas that have not been done before in 2014.

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>>254743387
CS:S has some neat dream like maps

>>254756579
While that's a big problem now days, it's still possible to make fresh content & even just new twists to older ideas. Besides, the games just needs to be __f__u__n__.

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>>254756579

>>254756034
I liked how the robot designer looked fucking depressed throught the whole thing.

>>254753645
Bullshit. I've worked in the video game industry for 7 years now and while there are days where I'm just in a piss poor mood, I still love my job.

Get the fuck out kid, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

>>254736264
>I need other people to validate my existence.
>I can't be just content with myself

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>play some of the most successful HL1 mods competitively as a kid
>win money
>help create some of the most successful HL2 mods as a teenager
>win money and prizes
>create items for TF2 and Dota 2
>earn a stable income
>join an indie team and help create one of the more recent indie smash hits
>make enough money to live independently wealthy the rest of my life

Now I just dick around doing whatever I please, and that just happens to be game dev.

>>254758495
>Bullshit. I've worked in the video game industry for 7 years now

And what have you accomplished, you worthless faggot?

>>254759481
No one believes you.

>>254759867
Fair enough, I still don't believe it.

>>254734829
I did this too.

>>254739826
>tubmlr

>>254730445
I find social interaction, let alone the amount required to get the money and labor required to produce one to be a nightmarish exercise in futility. Also, I suck at math, know nothing about music and have less artistic ability than Christian Weston Chandler.

I mean, yeah, me and my friends always say crazy stuff like "In our game, in the exploding flying end credits fight with your best friend, we can make the asain names give you nonsense game breaking power ups."

But it's not like we have any skills of any kind. Friend A is studying to be an engineer, and hates it, Friend B mows lawns and makes $80 a week, and Friend C is a coder, but he hates sillyness (having grown up with PC games like Vampire: The Masquerade and his older brother going in and out of jail.)

and I'm basically a fat depressed NEET with no future.

But yeah if I ever get a computer and write my teen book series, I'd be glad to spend all my money on making an awesome Superman game or something. Maybe based on that New Krypton event that I never finished.

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And here I have the opposite problem, I'm a really good artist out of inspiration at the moment and I at least know my way around Ableton Live well enough to make basic melodies but coding in another other than Python gives me a headache if it's more complex than an inventory...

And sometimes I do pair up with a programmer for things like jams and Ludum Dare and it is good like you'd expect but part of me yearns for ... I don't know... something more substantial while at the same time not to the point of completely eating up my life or putting on a yoke of responsibility I don't need or never agreed to (i.e. agreeing to a Kickstarter project or something)

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I've made a couple games and put them up for free. Each has less than a 300 plays and mixed reviews. Been doing this for about 6 years now. About as long as I've been on /v/. Never attempted to make a dime off any of them and don't think I could even if I wanted to.

Is gamemaker actually good? Risk of Rain was a pretty solid game and I want to make some sidescroller game with levels and crap. How much coding do I need to know if I'm going to use GM? Or should I just learn coding and make an engine myself and how long does that take. 2D, pixel graphics (sort of), nothing spectacular.