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Trails in the Sky thread

Winter 2013 is finally over!
http://store.steampowered.com/app/251150/
https://twitter.com/Hatsuu/status/491637517427691520

Now when can I preorder this game so I can give Xseed money?
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>>254414350
Who are these two sluts and why should I care?
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>>254414350
>Still can't pre-order
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>>254414350
So Tita is on the game's icon when you put the game on wishlist. Hatsuu must really like the canon loli.
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4th for used goods.
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>>254415005
>used goods

I'll fight you.
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>>254415005
not until the 3rd. So you guys best be buying this so Xseed knows it's profitable bringing more Kiseki games over.

Yes I'm shilling the game, but that's because they're good games.
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8th for THIS GAME SUCKS, YOU TELL ME I GOTTA PLAY FOR 30 HOURS FOR IT TO GET GOOD
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HALLELUJAH!!!!
finally I'll get to play it
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Guess I can delete that iso file then..
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>>254415406
>profitable
The games are too niche. It's pretty much impossible to have them become popular enough to bring the 3rd.

Moreso when you rely on people like this >>254415440 to buy FC and SC, which they most likely won't.
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>>254415440
this
>b-but this game gets good after 20 hours!
>how can you say the game is bad if you didn't even finish it!
>you've finished the game, how can you not like it!
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>>254415905

Who cares about vocal retards.
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>>254415370
Ellie IS used goods.
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>>254415905
Their entire market is niche, niche can certainly be profitable enough for them to bother.
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>>254415905

Depends. I think the series has a very solid fanbase in the west despite being small. The manpower needed is indeed a problem though
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Praise Hatsuu
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>>254416463
I must say I'm very surprised it has a fanbase at all given only the first game was out but...

I will tell you this, if you enjoyed FC and you're learning moonrunes then you'll most likely be a fan of the series.

That's not good though, the series are a huge money sink if you allow them to be
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Pot0fujrm8

damn, this is harder than it looks. Ys Napishtim might be my favorite Ys game, but Felghana has the best mechanics and boss fight.
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>>254417101
150$ a year isn't really a whole lot.
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>>254417101
>That's not good though, the series are a huge money sink if you allow them to be
I'm so tempted to import the Chinese LE of Ao no Kiseki just for the Rixia nendoroid. And I already shell out for a plane ticket to see JDK Band concert in Taiwan this 9/13.
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Facom material collection's google plus archive is down too. Where else am I suppose to get Falcom's secret mail wallpapers now?
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>>254417251
>150$

$1300 so far, and still counting here

I've seen people who spent over 2k though, on exclusives and importing LEs from china, plus WonderGOO and other festival exclusive merch.
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>>254418034
I'm gonna bitch at falcom about the chinese getting special treatment ;_;
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>>254418304
yeah seriously, the Japanese themselves didn't even get most of the mini Nendoroids here.>>254417352

Noel nendo when?
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>new thread, moonspeakers continue the thread
>shitposters gone like dust in the wind, only video game discussion remaining
Fucking magical.
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>>254418034
God damn im jelly
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>generic anime: the video game
why are we hype again?
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>>254418601
too bad you can't bump your own thread anymore, I used to samefag alot to keep the thread alive while posting Falcom arts
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>>254418304
Chinese gets special treatment from everyone, hell hollywood movies film extra scenes exclusive for chinese theaters. THE MOST CORRUPT OF GOVERNMENTS MUST BE PANDERED TO.
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>>254415370
dammit Lloyd, you shoulve given all the girls the D before shit got real in Crossbell
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>>254418034
I'm so fucking jelly right now.
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>master race happy because they get some ps2 level jrpg
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I still don't understand if these games are legit good or if it's just accumulated build-up hype from delays.

I really like Ys so I know Falcom can be good, but TiTS clearly isn't anything like Ys in every aspect.
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>>254418034
Used wrong picture without pic related. Oh well


>>254418562
I'm importing the one with Leonhardt so far, and the one with Joshua.

Dunno what I'll do with the fujo dakis though
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>>254418034
I respect your commitment.
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>>254418927
It's the harem MC disease.
He can't be helped.
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>>254418802
>He does it for free
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>>254419059
To be honest, TitS is just "good".
Nothing exceptional.
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>>254418802
>Rixia with Sche's clothes
HGNNAAAAA
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>>254419051
TitS is a PC game.
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>>254418927
>Lloyd + Rixia in Sen II
Ellie confirmed for BTFO
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>>254419380
Don't reply maybe he'll go away
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Hoping for osx support m
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>>254419059
like the other anon said, the first game of the Trails in the Sky trilogy is just good, all the other games after it bar the latest game Sen no Kiseki are GOAT jrpgs
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>>254419123
>harem MC

Lloyd isn't a harem MC. Well, he is, but he just happens to be one.

He's a detective who happens to have girls falling for his dick. Really, these scenes in the game are so every once in awhile the harem thing is really just a small part of his character
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enlighten me as to what makes these games good
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>>254419380
Ignore retards.
>>254419068
I need to steal your rixia daki.
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>>254419721
nothing, its just /v/ being hipsters and liking obscure weeaboo shit
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>>254419721
Words
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>>254419820
>Rixia daki
Such thing exist ?
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>>254419581
woah there, you're approaching BETRAYIFICATIONS territory with that screenshot. But it's funny most of the BETRAYIFICATIONS in the series are done by people in glasses
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They should rename Ao no kiseki for "shit hitting the fan: the game"

>>254419721
The games solely rely on execution . You'd have to play it to answer your question
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>>254419721
Attention to detail.
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>>254419851
>Legend of Heroes
>Obscure
You're an asshat. Why are you on /v/?
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>>254419973
ok now you're reaaaaly going into Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood spoiler territory here. Ease off the climatic screenshots dude
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>>254419820
All right.

>>254419942
One of the chinese LEs have a Rixia daki on one of the sides, and Ellie on the other side of the daki.
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cue all the assholes who have played every game saying "oh thats nice i hope you get the other games that are probably the best ever made and are exponentially bigger and better and probably will never be translated"

fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you
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>>254419942
Yes and it shows the best part. Her butt
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>>254420165
HO GOD
I WANT IT I WANT IT I WANT IT
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>>254420097
It is obscure though, he's right on that one.
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>>254420246
Fuck you for being a lazy sack of shit.
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>>254420246
don't worry, just support Xseed's localization effort and Ao no Kiseki will come to you Soonā„¢
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You can skip the third they said

>>254420115
My bad, they're mostly contextless screenshots though
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>>254420246
??????????
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>>254414350
>System Requirements Minimum:
Processor: Pentium III 550 MHz
Good thing I can play this on my pentium III
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>>254420439
What is Rider doing there?
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>>254420246

Its ok anon, this isnt the Tales fanbase were talking about
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>>254420439
Can you even beat him in that fight without NG+

Is there even any rewards for it?

I got my ass kicked by him and Arios so I was wondering about that.

I'll go for the round 2 on NG+ though
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>>254420521
I have shitter internet so all I can play are single player games on PC. But I'm not complaining because I'm surrounded by all these Falcom games
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>>254420246
Don't worry, anon. You'll get the sequels soon enough with shitty English audio and censorship.
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>>254420442
I screamed like a little girl when I saw Estelle using that S-Craft
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I'm a huge Falcom whore and I found the first TitS quite the underwhelming game.
I'd even dare to say it was rather tedious to play toward the end.
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>>254420674
guide said to stack evasion, that water spell that increases your AGI. Raise Ellie's ATS with Fortuna. Have Randy and Tio support with buff and debuff. Use Lloyd's craft to vaccum Sigmund and Arios

I didn't have enough resource at the time to pull off this strategy against Sigmund, but it worked against Arios after a few tries because his attacks are just so damaging and goes through Tio's Zero Field
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>>254420165
>All right
Now give me your address so I can come and steal it.
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>>254421006
It's okay anon, the games aren't for everyone. The best you could do is give SC a shot, if you still don't like it then you can drop it for good.
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Every new announcement for this translation first brings happiness and then crippling depression.
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So, Steam version or GoG version?

I suppose the steam version will have cards, and the GoG version will be cheaper for europeans, and maybe have a extra or two.
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I got very bored when playing it on PSP so I dunno if I want to get this
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>you will never play this version of pom


>>254421113
>0:01.49
Fuck.

I commend your effort
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I'm afraid of the blowback.
That series is really good, but it's a bit special, and to be honest the first one is flawed on a lot of points.

I expect a whole lot of "THAT GAME IS SHIT I'LL NEVER TRUST VEE AGAIN" the day of teh release.
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>>254421624
but those are copy and pastes threads by shitposters who didn't even buy it.
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>>254421624

To be fair, most of the people who say that have no intentions of playing it, and if they did and played it, its just not for everyone I guess
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>>254421569
TITS HAS A PUYO CLONE?
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>>254421847
That's from Ao no Kiseki
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>>254421523
The ys games exseed translated were roughly the same price for europeans. Ys origin was 20$ and it's 16 e
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>>254421569
Id live in the Kiseki universe. They have internet as orbal net and vidya gaem as orbal game.

I cant wait to orbal post all day on orbalchan
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The PSP localisation was fucking shit, did they decide to fix the PC version or is it still a rushed dubbed piece of garbage?
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So for the people who have played beyond what's been translated to english, is it really as fuckhuge as has been said? Do you think the games are too big to be translated?
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Anyone else almost cried?

We've been waiting for this since SC
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>>254419051
>ban evading
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>>254418034
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>>254421567
Maybe just get the summary for it later when SC comes out and decide if you want that then.
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>>254422102
Yes, they are.
Don't expect SC anytime soon, and don't expect AO at all.
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>>254422102
The scripts have been written and completed since before FC even came out (2004) they're still adapting them into games. They claim to only be about half way done.
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>>254422127
I don't like Renne.
I hope she will go back to choking on dicks like she was little fucking little slut.
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>>254422102
Each game is about 60 hours long. The huge script is from npc having new dialogue after almost every cutscene
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>>254422102
It is.

We're talking about possibly the most detailed and immersive JRPG franchise around, there's so much text to translate that you simply can't expect a good translator to want to pick it up without charging a lot for it.
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>>254422435
I want to immerse myself in that detail
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>>254422383
>I don't like Renne.
Then you can go fuck yourself bud
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>>254422435
Yes, yes, there's a lot of details yes, post more "details".
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>>254422383
I hope so too. Preferably mine.
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>>254422692
Sounds like you want plot
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>>254422570
I want to smash my fast into Rixia's plot too
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Xseed should stop. They're giving people false hope. It's just cruel.
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>>254422619
Arisa is even blander than Ellie. I want a Tio and Olivier tag team Arts nuking in future Kiseki games
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>>254422928
Xseed could skip the third and go straight into zero, but you'd lose a lot of references that happens in the dialogues, and scenes.

Plus how the 3rd is pretty much a game that fleshes out the religion of Eidos.
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>>254422841
Ellie is fucking perfect
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>>254423206
How far are you in Ao now? You going to shit yourself at the references to the 3rd from a particular boss's attack
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Well my PSPs joystick is fucking up again after I cleaned it. Fuck it. Guess I could buy it TiTS on PC even though I already have it on PSP

SC when?
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>>254423206
I thought it was damn nice how in FC and SC you see the churches in town, but only in the 3rd that you get to see how deep that rabbit hole goes.

They needed a whole game to explain what the 3 superior elements, and even shit about the fucking bible.

Then you have how the game is literally obsessed with the number 7
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>>254423521
Summer 2014
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>>254423524
bible of eidos, before people ask
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>>254423524
>TiTS FC will be released on Steam seven days from now
Deepest lore
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>>254423513
I just got rescued by Zeit, and yeah, I'm seeing references from the 3rd all over.

My head is spinning here out of so much shit happening at once.
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>>254422435
god damn this semen demon is the only reason i want to play this series jesus christ
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>FF XIII
>"I'm not playing that garbage, you have to play for 20 hours for it to get good!"
>Kiseki
>"p-please play the first game, the whole thing is boring and shitty but it'll be worth it when we release the sequel 4 years from now (n-not really because it's not gonna sell enough lol)"

Yeah, maybe I'll consider pirating it.
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>Gurumin on Steam
>TiTS FC coming out on Steam and GOG
>Half Minute Hero 2 got an english release
>TiTS SC is coming out on Steam and GOG Winter 2014

>Mfw

All is right with the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSRWj65qOzM
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>>254422841
>dat KeA bikini
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>>254423967
Well, that game will never be in English so there's no point.
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Agate and Tita scene on SC was so heartwarming.

Wasn't the CF translator kinda pissed with agate?
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>>254423206
There is a fan translation project for Zero. Maybe they can buy what's done after releasing 3rd and release Zero faster.
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>>254424050
HMH2 sold like shit apparently.
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Guys that game came out in 2004 and 2011.
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>>254424324

You won't mind paying for it AGAIN, though, right? After all, we want proof it's worth our time before we work on translating the good stuff :^)
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>GoG release

Day 1 purchase
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>>254424252
What the fuck is up with the pixelization?
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>>254424197
What's the to pissed off about Agate treating Tita as his imouto?
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>>254424435
But I've already finished the series. Sen no Kiseki II is looking great :^)
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>>254424308

Well... It sold atleast 1k copies...

;_;
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I hope they patch the game if all the problems with the text aren't fixed by release. It looks pretty ugly as it is.
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Sen no Kiseki spoilers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78QHJY6LptI
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I'm thinking about just importing them and instead of straight up learning moon I'll just look up the kanji and shit and figure it out. It might take thousands of hours to beat the game but it might make my nihongo better without suicide inducing flashcard bullshit
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>>254424324
>bought the physical release of the jap PC version
>bought the english psp release twice
>planning on buying the steam release

You can't stop me.
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Tio is love

>>254424324
you're forgetting kai
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>>254424308

Sauce? Not saying I don't believe you, but you have a link to the publishers talking about this I would like to read it. It was story heavy with a shitty ass story and the creator of it is now totally focused on Senran Kagura so it's not like it's a big loss.
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I'm a bit confused. I looked up the game on wiki and it aid something about this being part of a trilogy with each part having a series within itself.

What's being released on Steam and how do I get the others?
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Post yfw Winter 2013 is finally coming
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>>254424869
>pirated the trilogy on PC because I wasn't sure if I was going to like it
>loved it to death
>bought the trilogy on ps3 and all limited editions

Will I ever find the strength to forgive myself?
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>>254424926
http://steamcharts.com/app/240970
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>>254424989

Steam is the very first, the beginning of everything. Second will come after the first. Rest is localization never.
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>>254424623
It's a PSP game.
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>>254424308
I actually bought it.
Pirated the original. Bought the PSP HMH. Bought PC HMH. Bought HMH2
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>>254424989
Trails in the Sky FC and SC are self contained game duology.
Trails in the Sky the 3rd is epilogue sidestory that also sets up the conflict in subsequent Trails games
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>>254425059
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>>254424926

The story was totally cliche, but it was hard to tell whether it was trying to be cliche, or if they weren't trying to be cliche. If we were to be honest the story probably stemmed from Knight 30, so blame the first game for that.
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>>254424861
Buy them as well if you want, but I would recommend downloading the games from nyaa and hooking the text. I did that and it only took me about 150 hours each to 100% FC and SC, even starting from next to no knowledge of Japanese.
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EAT DA SYRUP BITCH
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>>254425078

How am I supossed to interpret this data? It just shows peak players and stuff like that.
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>>254414350
Fucking finally. My PSP limited edition is still sealed because I was waiting for this.
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>>254425074
The only path to forgiveness is sending Falcom 150 dollars with a picture of you cry and holding a sign that says "I'm sorry."
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>>254425363
Compare it with the 1, it was way more popular.
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>>254425363

The most people that played at any given time was 247.

They should have put it on sale during the summer sale. They needed that badly.
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>>254425059
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LOOK AT THAT PLOT
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>>254425078
Doesn't count as 'shit'. Though that's not as good as the original. Probably will get better once it manage to get a -50% (it missed the 50% community sale this summer sales).
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>>254425243

Overture and Judgement had like, almost zero fucking jokes. On a satire game that's fucking unforgivable. Just saying "We are being cliche because we're trying!" doesn't change a damn thing, it's still lazy ass cliche writing.

I will forgive them because the Venus Seven are delicious.
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>>254425369
You are the stupidest poster I've seen this year. Well done!
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>>254425508
man, this years summer sale was terrible. Same game put on sale over and over and categories such as Female Protagonist. At least Ys games went on sale one week afterwards.
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>>254424308
I'm happy they brought it over, HMH is the game that made me finally feel getting my PSP was worth it, it only took nearly 3 years for a title that finally made the puchase worthwhile.
Though I have a few friends who would be into it, they were all under the mindset of they didn't want to pay the normal price for it and are waiting for a sale.
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>>254425153
I'm pretty sure it wasn't like that when I saw screenshots before.
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>>254425291
I might give that a shot. Did it help you learn japanese?
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>>254425074
>Will I ever find the strength to forgive myself?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M7EVH9wFEs
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>>254425728
>mindset of paying for PC games
What the fuck kind of logic is that?
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>>254425636
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>>254425690
>beta access to new steam community
>new steam community
>new

Wait what, is this an old screenshot are they changing it again?
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IMAGE IS A HUGE FUCKING SPOILER DONT CLICK ON IT UNLESS YOUVE GOTTEN PAST CHAPTER 4 OF AO NO KISEKI


Even in BETRAYIFICATIONS there are huge plots. I have to turn the volume down during the boss fights because the moans are borderline JAV
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>>254424861
Good luck with that.
Protip it won't work. Start studying.
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>>254425690
I wish I had the money, will just wait until it goes on sale again I guess.
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>>254425959
That's quite the slutty dress honestly.
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>>254425690
>categories such as Female Protagonist.
i can't believe you actually got mad at that

I posted in those threads acting like it was the end of the world, and now i find out some of these people weren't being ironic

you huge faggot
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>>254425779
There is a remake for the Vita.
Since the Vita isn't hacked, there is no point in making translation patches for Vita games.
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>>254426008
Already opened it, luckily I don't understand what's going on.
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>>254425656

I think they were trying to be every jRPG at once, including HMH. And it kinda failed.

I mean... there were Final Fantasy references, Chrono Trigger references, Dragon Quest references, TLoH references (it's the name of the final fucking story quest!)... Anime references too, now that I think about it.

I'll admit that I still enjoyed it, and the map creation is fun... but it's waaaay different from the first game. Nowhere near the same, and the puzzle dungeons were horrible. Demon Maze was fucking horrible, and then near the end they had to instakill mobs that basically made the whole thing 10x more tedious.

At least the music was good.
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>>254426114
well I'm not anally devestated, just annoyed games like Ikaruga keep losing to trash like these
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>>254426008
Opened it
What's going on ?
Ho that's right.
I don't give a fuck.
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>>254426142
Well we'll see after XSEED is done with 3rd. Was there even a PC version past the 3rd?
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>>254426253
>Gone home beat Ikaruga.
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>>254426008
>spoiler for game I'll never get to play
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>>254425690
I still spent like 60 dollars on it.

Almost exclusively on sub 5 dollar japanese games, though.
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>>254417857
From here: http://falcom.luna-sanctum.net/
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>>254426008
I honestly didn't know what the fuck to think when I saw her talking to KeA first.

My mind was blown in all possible pieces when that scene happened.

When shit went down, it went down like a motherfucker.

I don't know how they do it man, I don't know how they connect all the dots in a way that make it so fucking satisfying to see.
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>>254426304
There are now. Xseed have only licensed 1-3. They will not be localizing them unless SC and 3rd are MASSIVE successes on Steam. FC almost bankrupted them and I highly doubt putting it on another platform where piracy is easy as fuck is going to help their cause. Even if they do release them, Xseed release 1 every 2-3 years while Falcom release a new game every year.
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>>254426304
>Well we'll see after XSEED is done with 3rd.
AHA
See you in ten years, if ever.
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>>254426451
What if you do get to play it some day, and you'll never be able to forget the spoilers you've been exposed to?
It happened to me with /v/ hammering ADACHI IS THE KILLER into my head over and over.
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>>254425812
I can't say I'm exactly fluent, but it's helped immensely. The games use simple sentences, and it's pretty easy to piece together what people should be saying given the context, which is great for beginners. The only somewhat difficult thing about the text is the kanji it uses sometimes, and with a text hooker that's not a problem at all. Just don't expect to understand everything completely at first if you do try.
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From all the hype surrounding Tits it better be the Planescape Torment of jRPGs.
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>>254426372
>Sakura Spirit beat TiTs
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>>254426304
Xseed have stated that Zero and beyond is wait out of their league.
Also, Zero and Ao are on PC I think.
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>>254426675
It's still put Planescape a bit higher.
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>okay now I'm motivated to learn nihongo lets get back into the game motherfuckers
>open up anki
>64 due 20 new

kill me
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>>254426675
The hype comes from people who can read moon. If you can't into moon, this series is not for you.
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>>254426008
I haven't played a trails game and I know the context of that image.
Falcomclassics sure loved to put spoilers on the song videos.
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>>254426510
Haha, since you're playing Ao no Kiseki Evolution where all the dialogue are voice.

In the original her line concludes the chapter and is voiced for some reason, telling us of the significance.
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Don't worry guys, Bandai will pick up the rest of the series for us.
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>>254426847
>Falcomclassics sure loved to put spoilers on the song videos.
Fuck these guys
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>>254426828
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Nayuta no kiseki when ?
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>>254414350
Wasn't Carpe Fulgur translating this? Because fuck them.

I don't know if this is another Trails in the Sky but I'm glad it's Xseed.
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>>254426008
Oh and by the way, the kanjis between brackets, is it the treasure of zero? My mind was blown off so hard when I realized why the first game was named zero no kiseki.

>>254426847
Fuck falcom for putting a HUGE spoiler in the Ao no evo opening.

Seriously, fuck them. Them or Chara-Ani, whoever decided to put Arios fighting Lloyd for whatever retarded reason.
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>>254427149
No.
FC was translated by XSeed.
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>>254427149
Xseed HIRED Carpe Fulgur. Xseed are cancer.
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>>254426828
>64
Step it up
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>>254425059
>>
Zwei II when
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>20 dollars

O-Oh.
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>>254426828
>using Anki
I hope you're using vocabs you see as you play vidya, watch anime, or read Japanese articles and not use a premade deck. That's a huge waste of time since you're forced to memorize words or variations of the same word with no context.
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>Unfortunately, we looked into this and it was not possible for us to include Japanese voice acting. We did wish to have it, but we could not. I'm sorry.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND FUCKING DROPPED
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>>254427267

They don't have the manpower to translate the entire series. Sara basically translated all of FC herself.
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>Ho hey, I'll just massage the bare back of my dead brother's wife
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>>254427392

Hahahaha.

Day one pirate.
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>>254427383
That's what I've been doing.
>MFW I add like 5 words an hour playing Tales of games and add like 50 an hour playing Kiseki games
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>>254427343
>Zwei II

It's out, and it's called Nayuta no Kiseki
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There is only one Kiseki game translated, so I wouldn't go talking like you know anything about the series.

Also the translation ruins the game. The point is that a large amount of the dialogue is kanji-only and in fact often conflicts with the accepted patterns of kanji usage. There is no way to preserve this in a translation short of leaving translator's notes on every line, so Kiseki should have never been translated to begin with. Especially since dumbass westerners like you who don't understand it can now play it with a shitty Xseed translation and bash the game for not conforming to their misguided preconceived notions.

This game is not for you, it's not for any of you, so stop playing it and stop acting like you know anything about it.

To be even more blunt about it, Kiseki is for expert JRPG players only. Do not play this unless you are interested in metafiction and bending the game medium itself. Do not play this unless you have an understanding of JRPGs as a canon and are prepared to critique it on a literary basis. Do not play this if you do not understand Japanese. I am sick and fucking tired of westerners playing this game and acting like they know shit about it. Kill yourselves immediately.
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Fuck!

>>254427149
We can only trust Tom's word in that CF will just be a translating bot for SC
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>>254427383
>Rixia's thighs
Boner, stop.
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>>254427454
Doesn't make Xseed's decision to hire Carpe Fulgur any better.
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>>254427613

>Friend

Does she let people add her?
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>>254427541
Nayuta and Zwei are different.
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>>254427201
yup indeed it is. I just remember the audio eargasm when this plays during the climatic fight against Arios
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lVplHG4RSo

Even better than Silver Will Super Arrange against Loewe
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>>254427483
giggled

I picked Ellie
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>>254427541
No, that's Zwei 2.5. It comes after Zwei 2.3, Gurumin.
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>>254427572
Oh so the trolling narrative will be that Kiseki is not for EOP and EOP should not sully Kiseki with their filthy hands, eh
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>>254427652

Tom is hard on censorship, so they won't do anything.

Calm the fuck down dude, you aren't being rational.
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>>254427572
mad/10
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>>254427807
Tom is actively supporting censorship by giving Carpe Fulgur money. He's a god damn hypocrite.
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>>254427572

>tfw Kisekifags are literally this delusional

It's a shit franchise, dude. None of you go into that level of detail with it, either, you just endlessly circlejerk about OHHH MUH WORLDBUILDING MUH INTRICATE PLOTS and post "spoiler images" of two characters meeting, which is SUCH a spoiler.

Fromdrones? Weak. Meleefags? Pathetic. Kisekifags are so autistic they make Sonic fans look well-adjusted.
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>>254427749
Who else ?
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>>254427383
I've just been doing this deck of elementary school kanji. I'm not sure how to go about making my own decks and stuff and it sounds really confusing. I definitely don't know enough to even start playing games in japanese.
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>>254427483
>When Lloyd was young, I used to wash his back in the showers.
I'm frustrated there's no /ss/ doujin out of this.
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>>254427915

You're not convincing me that you're being rational, dude.
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>>254427572

Fucking weaboos mang
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Before you faggots get baited any further


>>254427572
>>254427572
Ignore it.
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>>254428013
http://jisho.org/kanji/radicals/
start by memorizing and recognizing the radicals so you can search up new kanjis faster
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>>254428076
I don't have to rationalize supporting censorship. I imported the games.
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Why Rixia is in Sen II instead of Ellie ?
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>>254427383
How hard is to be able to read simple mangos with furigana?

I have the feeling that if I get to that point shit would be smoother, and I have a good ammount of manga that isn't translated but has furigana that I want to read.
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>>254428452
She's the best girl.
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>>254428470
About as hard as Kiseki.
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>>254428193
I thought it read like a /jp/ post.
I was almost right, I see.
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>>254428452
Ellie is too busy with diplomatic stuff, Tio and Jonah became l33t hackers on the orbal net, so all that remains are Rixia and Noel joining Lloyd on the front line.
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>>254428470
Much easier. It won't help you play the Kiseki games however. You can get a text hook program to force in furigana for kanji for the Kiseki games.
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>>254428470
If you can read kana, you can at least read Yotsubato!, since it has no kanji IIRC.
Reading Yotsubato is also a requirement for staying on 4chan, so you should get to it.
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>>254428726
That hip / thigh line goddamn.
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>>254427613
I'm not sure why it says 1.2 hours when her profile says 78, what the shit is up with Steam's time tracking anymore... no I get it, we actually went back to Winter 2013 and it's her playtime from then
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>mfw japanese grammatical structures

any guides?
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>>254428214

Any other good dictionary sites like that? I got the text hooker recently to hook the kanji, but don't know where to look them up.
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>Learning japanese
See you next week for the usual "I COULDN'T DO IT ANY ADVICE"
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>>254429294
what more do you need? You can even look up Japanese words by typing its romanji pronunciation there.
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>Supporting homophobia
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>>254429294
http://wwwjdic.se/cgi-bin/wwwjdic.cgi?1C
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>>254429281
>>>/lang/
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Someone has the colored version ?
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FUCK YOU
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>>254429719
>you will never beat Tio up in Pom To!
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>>254428193

wow. seriously who is this dude and what is this game
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>>254429294
Have the text hooker copy to clipboard automatically and use TA with JParser and Mecab
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Finally I can play a game I played years ago on a handheld.
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>>254429281
Literally one of the easiest grammar you could possibly ever hope to learn.
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>start learning some kanji
>like 5 kanji in a row have the exact same reading

I want to die
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>>254429281
The grammar is easy.

It's the kanjis which are full retard.
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I want this so bad.
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>>254429892
>tfw it bombed
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>tfw you realize why they called sora no kiseki, sora no kiseki in Ao

Beautiful.

>>254429921
>you will never pat her head
Why even live
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>>254429892
>You will never spend 2 years of working on weeb game localization effort with two weeb girls
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>>254430512
Thank god for that.
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>>254430340
L I T E R A L L Y
S E X U A L I Z A T I O N
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>>254427335
KIRINO A SHIT
>>254430358
>Tio will never run to hug you while breaking your ribs with her breast plate
>>
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That artist's legs are really nice.
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>>254430759
Estelle looks like she's plotting something.
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>>254430894
too bad he got hit with a serious case of same-face syndrome now. It's time for Falcom to switch to a new artist or bring Haccan back.
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>>254431021

>Estelle
>7 letters

OH SHIT SHE IS THE FINAL BOSS OF THE FRANCHISE
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>>254431128
Yeah I noticed the same-face started, that's really too bad.
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>>254430736
I'm not going to shit on this nice thread because you have poor taste on girls.
Still, please proceed to softly, lovingly and gently go fuck yourself.
Your taste is so shit I bet you don't even like Estelle. If you dare say something bad about her I'll find you and insert my penis up your ass so gently that you'll have mixed feelings about it and feel guilty for falling in love with me.
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>>254431320
Started? The sameface has been there since the very start.
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http://steamcommunity.com/app/251150/discussions/0/43099722370213834/

>Japanese complaining about not getting this superior version with jap language
>Only a few hours after the subforums opened
>B-BUT NO ONE IN JAPAN WANTS TO USE STEAM
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>>254431453
Yes ?
Didn't noticed it I must say.
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>>254431128
>he

The artist from your pic and the artist from the pic of the post you're quoting are two completely different people by the way.

Just thought you should know
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>>254431501

>b-b-but we don't get to have trading cards and achievements unless you let us have your version!
>j-just because you guys had to wait 20 fucking years doesn't mean you get more than we do!
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>>254431501
>Japanese complaining about not getting this superior version with jap language
What ?
Really ?
Where
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>>254431595
oh it's a she? I've been led to believe it's the same artist from Zero to Sen. Who are their names so I can credit them properly?
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>>254431501
He clearly wants it in English, though. There's nothing there about wanting to play it in Japanese, and he's obviously fluent in English.
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>TiTS PC finally
>Gurumin PC unexpectedly
>FFXV actually in development
>KHIII in development
>Smash 4
>Guts getting off the boat
>translations for my favourite Light Novel series
Japan is saving 2014 for me.
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>>254431453
>the very start.
Riiiiiiiight
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>>254431501
>Chika Ogiue

I remember him from the Killer is Dead sub forum. He was complaining about the pricing for the game in Japan.
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>Japs getting BTFO
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>>254431795
holy fuck, Toval and Sara just reeks of same-face, Falcom seriously needs a new artist now.
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>>254431884
Since that artist started working on the series.
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>>254431928

>Joshua

What the fuck, he is like a blue haired Adol
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>>254431884
eh don't bother replying, there were shitposters talking about sameface and trueseki bros back on /vg/. Don't let it happen here
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>>254414827
I want Oath of Felghana and Ys Seven's artist to come back.
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>>254432152
I preferred Chronicles.
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>>254432129
I haven't been there in weeks.

It's literally a shitposting containment thread now.
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>>254432152
>Ys Seven's artist to come back.
I agree
He's great, I love his art
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>>254432152
it's a stretch but I love Oath/ Origin/ Napishtim artist's artstyle too. Seven also looks distinct enough to be memorable. Chronicles and Nayuta looks good enough to be waifu material without falling into sameface territory
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>>254432129
>/vg/
Never
/jrpg/ is now LOOK AT MY BLOG and Hatsuu Defence Force.
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>>254432470
Ay yes I love Nayuta's design
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>>254432470
Falcom will probably change character design after Sen.

Sen's character designs are pretty good imo
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>>254432413
Chronicles artist gave me a good case of armpit fetish. There are so many pit shots in these illustrations god damn.
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Can anyone tell me what are Tita and the whip woman good for? i don't know how to use them.
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Why didn't you guys just emulate this on PPSSPP? Or does this come with the sequels or something?
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I fucking hate Falcom's harvest moon sprites
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>>254432923
Tita has crazy good crafts and is adorable. Schera is just not very good and kind of ugly too.
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>>254432961

>Pirate the game!
>Are the sequels coming?
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>>254432961
>The original version of the first chapter in this historical series
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>>254432961

Native graphics look better than emulated, by far.
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>>254432790
>Sen's character designs are pretty good imo
Hmm let me think
>Rean
generic protag
>Arisa
generic tsundere ojousama
>Emma
polite class president with big boobs
>Gaius
honorable hippie who won't shut up about m-muh wind
>Jusis
smug rich person with daddy issues
>Machias
so bland that I can't even think about his defining trait other than that he hates rich people
I don't feel like typing more but I do like Millium, Sara, and especially the super maid Sharon

Oh yeah Gideon, Scarlet, and Gideon are fucking expys of Celceta's Gruda, Bami, and Gadis who are one dimensional villians with no character depth other than being bad, and wrong.
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>>254428243
You're a dipshit is what you are.
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>>254432961
The PSP translation gets a lot of lines totally wrong, including essentially the entirety of one of the most important scenes in the game, and it's not as pretty.
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>>254433556
Whatever you say, Tom.
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>>254432923
Tita is useless in FC, and rarely available so don't bother. Schera has that craft that raises your ATS, so she's great for utility. You're going to be abusing that craft during the Lorence fight, motherfucker takes forever if you don't steal his turns
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>>254420097
Unfortunately he's right, the kiseki series are obscure, I really wish this wasn't the case
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I wonder if the GOG version will come with any good extras like a soundtrack...
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I haven't even played a single kiseki game, but I know that Tio is the best kiseki, rivaling Parin for best falcom.
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>Ages still around 18-19
Come one Falcom, a little effort and I'm sure you will drag us from that teen galore hell.
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>>254433270
> who won't shut up about m-muh wind
>This wind, 'tis a good wind
Jesus christ
>>254432961
PPSSPP doesn't have the same quality as the PC version, and the Steam release has a reworked translation, making the PSP version obsolete
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>>254430012
https://github.com/vjeux/jParser
and http://sourceforge.net/projects/mecab/? Sorry, I don't know much about texthooking.
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>>254433270
And forgot to mention, Playable Sharon confirmed for Sen II, GET HYPE
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>>254433270
Let's not forget the ARMY SCHOOL WITH OBLIGATORY UNIFORM bullshit.
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>>254434051
>Sharon
I've never seen anyone spell Elise like that.
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>First chapter comes out in 6 days
>Second chapter comes out in another 2 - 5 years
>Third chapter never

What's even the point.
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>>254433270
The fuck. Calm the fuck down.

Character designs and their personalities are completely unrelated to one another.

Take a deep breath now.
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Enjoy your censored port by a SJW translator
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>>254433687
Soundtrack is pointless since it comes included in the game files
>>254433902
Zin/Zane is 20 something, Richard is also in his late 20's (Althought he's only playable in 3rd), Kevin is 20 something, Muller and Julia are also late 20's (Julia probably is in her 30's). Olivier I'm not sure, but he should be early 20's too.
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Isn't Trails the CoD of JRPGs?
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>>254434219
Fuck Rean's Imouto, fucking pandering for the loli imouto audience. She has no place being playable, complete waste of slot.
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>turn-based combat
Why should I care?
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>>254434660
No, that's Atelier
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>>254434660
No, thats Pokemon
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>>254434491
The music in the game files is untagged and only ~200 kbps.
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>>254434660
No, tales is.
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>>254434660
That's Tales I think.

Trails is pretty popular in Japan, but not as much as SMT and tales.
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>>254434674
But flat-chested, non-blood-related imoutos with long, straight hair and headbands are the best type of character.
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>>254435169
>non-blood-related
Disgusting pandering garbage. Pic related.
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>>254419949

>>254420442


So I'm a complete buffoon, but which game are these screenshots from?
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>>254435169
Olivier's Imouto was best Imouto during Sen, is not even a contest. Elise is just there to pander to the disgusting incest audience

>OMG ONII CHAN MAKES ME SO MOIST BUT I CAN'T CONFESS WHAT SHOULD I DOUSHIO?

Her and generic bottle blonde tsundere were bloody disgusting
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>>254435530
Your first quote is from Ao no kiseki
Second quote is from Zero no kiseki

5th game and 4th game of the series, respectively.
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>>254436321
100% SC and I still have no idea of what he's on about.
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Why are there so many people spreading misinformation? Are they trying to boycott the English release or what?

>hurr durr the games are censored
>next game comes in 5 years and the third one never!
>THEY WILL NEVER EVER BRING MORE GAMES

Jesus, kill yourselves.
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>>254436321
And guess what, Wyrdwad blew him the fuck out over it, and guess what, his personal views won't change the translation any, so I hope you all can keep being mad and retarded and keep throwing hissy fits about how things are when they aren't.

Fuck you people are goddamn babies.
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>>254436781
Fans have been waiting 3 fucking years for SC and there's still no date. I have managed to learn Japanese since then and play the entire series. If you seriously think that's acceptable you have no standards at all. Xseed have handled this series extremely poorly.
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>>254436321
I like Xseed a lot, but man they really shot themselves in the foot with picking those guys. Seriously, fuck those guys.
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>>254435872
Ah ok. I was thrown off by google/wikipedia. Thanks anon.
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>>254436781
>>254436786


youre not fooling anyone andrew dice
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>>254436565
Something about a forced marriage sidequest.
>>254436781
Third one has a very, very, very low chance of ever coming out. Hatsuu has gone on a limb sayingthere is no way they'll work with Zero and Ao.

Not exactly misinformation, my xseed white knight friend
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How hard is this game if you're shit at turn based games?
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>>254437125
It's an easy game. Even the optional boss isn't very hard.
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I hope my hype doesn't make me end up feeling disappointed.
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>>254437125
It's pretty damn easy and gets easier when you have to retry battles. It's not braindead easy at least.
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>>254437428
>letting hype possibly ruin your experience with games

Don't do that.
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>>254437667
Post more ?----- scenes. They're simply adorable
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>>254437667

I can't help it. I've been waiting so long for this and I've heard such good things.

>>254436786

>Wyrdwad blew him the fuck out over it

Where? I gotta see that.
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>sen gets chinese and korean translations or some shit like they're nothing
>getting a game from 2007 into english is a desperate struggle

I wish some other company could translate the games or something. Why are xseed bothering to translate them if the biggest draw of the series is it's story and they know they can't continue with the series because it's too damn big? It seems like a waste of time and is just gonna give people blue balls.
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>>254437924
Dont come in expecting your home village destroyed after youre told to retrieve some ancient crystals. Expect a grand adventure as you explore a country town by town solving people's problem while winding up in a conspiracy.
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>>254437924
Someone posted something about that shit on twitter on the forums around the time it happened, and Tom apparantly wasn't too subtle about him having a long talk with SpaceDrake about it.
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>>254438051
>sen gets chinese and korean translations or some shit like they're nothing
>some shit
You mean same day release as Japan? Cause that's what they get. Meanwhile we have to deal with Xseed.
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>>254438085

Sounds great.

>>254438129

That also sounds great.
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>>254437924
>I've heard such good things

I'm fan as fuck, but even I know these games aren't for everyone.

Even if you see people praising there's still a high chance the games aren't meant for you.

>>254438051
>desperate struggle
Close.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p56c2xo7xQ
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holy shit
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>>254438142
This is the only thing in my life that really depresses me and makes me want to die. The only thing that stops me from truly being happy.
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>>254437918
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>>254434674
fuck Elize, she's the most blatant anime stereotype. I hope she winds up being the Aristocrat's fuck toy.
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>>254438330

Is the story slow or does it have a lot of grinding or something? I'm sure I can handle either. I hear the world of TitS is really interesting so that will certainly help.
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simply adorable. Keep em coming
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>>254438596
Grinding won't happen, if you try the enemies pretty much give you one point of EXP after you get above their level.
And the games are all about getting wrapped up in political bullshit and WHY WOULD YOU BETRAY US AFTER ALL WE'VE BEEN THROUGH
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>>254438596
The storys very slow and mellow for most of it. No grinding (the xp system makes grinding pretty impossible, and its not necessary anyway)
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>>254427392
>>254427519

Who gives a shit? Dual audio usually costs more than it's worth and this is a PC game. You'll likely be able to just mod it back in. You could add voice acting from the PSP version of Ys Oath into the PC version so I don't see why it couldn't work similarly with TitS.
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>hey buy this game multiple times on two platforms and maybe we'll translate the other games and you can finish the story
>oops sorry those games are too big. thanks for the money though

I've been strung along for long enough. They should be real and just stop this shit. It's never going to happen.
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>>254438523
>That whole fucking part

Jesus as a non-Falcom fan that shit was hard for me to take. Still baffles me how she manages to screw up so precisely to move a plot point
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>>254438596
>story slow
Slow. At least the first game is.

FC is like, the first part of a plan, of a plan of another plan that will develop into another plan.

FC is like the beginning of the beginning.

You get rewarded for pushing through it though.
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>>254438523
Alfine is pretty adorable though, so is Cedric. But Elize can choke on a pile of NTR dicks. Fcuk this foster sibling incest cliche
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>>254429950
Forest
it's by the same people that did Sekien no Inganock and Shikkoku no Sharnoth
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>>254438937
Sounds fine to me
I expect a decent rpg to take about ten hours to really get into
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>>254438523
But she's adorable.
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>>254438937
we will never get off Ouroboro's Orpheus Project's wild ride. Both Crossbell and Erebonian Empire are merely part 2 of it.
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>>254438901
Just consider it motivation to finally learn moon. Never having to deal with this bullshit again is the greatest feeling in vidya.
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>>254439172
Well, in FC's defense it's really like it was pointed out.

A very atmospheric game. What falcom was going for with FC was sort of a young/naiive feel to it.

You can understand that by listening to the theme song of FC.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raejEnxTkH4
So you can notice a very innocent feel to it

And then you have SC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16zYWtW9Fy4
Which has a more serious sort of tone.
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>>254439172
>ten hours
FC is basically a short prologue for the series and is 40 hours long.
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>>254438051
like it or not, Xseed is the best bet we got to English Kiseki. NISA won't do it, Atlus won't do it, and Sony America would rather port Borderlands 2 to Vita than translating Sen to English
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>>254439719
Fucking Taiwan and China man.

I'm so fucking mad right now, why don't we get this cool shit.
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>>254439719
>NISA
Yah nah, I'd rather play runes I don't understand than 10,000 lines of memes.
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>>254439658
Shine of Eidos is so beautiful. Now I'll have to listen to Sophisticated Fight and and Strepitoso Fight again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mE43NBxloqM

Is this Falcom classic's new channel? Does this mean he'll put his image archives back on jewgle+?
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>>254439868
I have a Korean copy and the translations aren't the best as we have some errors and speech patterns that are pretty cringeworthy. But the game is more than playable and dialogues mostly work


Also, that cover
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>>254440190
>illustration done by Haccan
WHERE CAN I PREORDER
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Posting Fie.
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Is it time?
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>>254440356
Worst
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>>254440190
Sorry if I sound like a cunt but I get mad jelly when I remember all the shit Japs don't get.

At least Japan has wonderGOO/Comiket stuff

nothing as good as china so far though
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>>254439517
I've tried and tried and tried and I can't do it. My brain just doesn't work right. But every single mention of this series just gives me more motivation to kill myself, and every new update from the bunch of bumbling fucking idiots from xseed translating an ancient game with one hand up their asses while other places get translations handed to them on a silver platter just fills me with hatred. I can't believe a stupid fucking video game is making me so mad.
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>>254439989
Got that full pic without the caption, bro?
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>>254440356
I know we all have different taste and I respect that, but Fie is worst Sen. Emotionless girls are so boring. The only difference in her portraits is literally the change in eyebrow heights.
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>>254440461
Best
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>>254440549
>emotionless girls are so boring

Back off mate
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>>254440531
It's not the video game making you mad, it's Xseed's incompetence. If you can't into moon, you could always learn Korean. It would be easier, but nowhere near as useful.
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>>254440743
2nd worst
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>>254440190
>Sen no Kiseki ?
Haha Japanglish
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>>254440794
Say that to my face and not online and see what happens.
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>>254440549
That's a boy, not a girl.
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>>254440743
>Tio emotionless
nah
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>>254431840
index?
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>>254440873
>dat Tio blush
hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng

>>254440991
What sidequest was that again?
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>>254440641
at least she's not the worst to the point of being absolutely irredeemable. I take it back. Worst Sen is Elize.
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>>254440549
>>254440794
>this awful taste
And Fie is not emotionless, she is a quiet prankster and lazy/unmotivated.
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>>254440549

Speedster characters are always fun to use even if others are better at their job
>Raven
>Chrono Drive
>Spam Clearance

Plus probably the best leader character to use.


Still, Gaius and Eliot are the best party members.
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>>254440991
Tio is pretty kuudere, just more dere than Kuu.

Fie is more kuu than she is dere, but she's still dere.
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>>254441074
>index?
Same translator. Horizon.
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All right.

Which version did you buy? Was there anyone crazy enough to dip 200 on that retarded chara ani bundle with 2 copies of the same game?
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>>254432989
yeah I'm not too fond of the pre rendered 3d either
it was kinda cute in HM64 but that's about it
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>>254441209
At what point did anything you typed not sound retarded to you?
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>>254441554
At no point.
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>>254441353
oh great I didn't hear about that one
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>>254441405
I think someone got that chara-ani bundle and got that delicious girls swimsuits tapestry.
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>>254441202

Chrono Drive is shit in Sen. For that matter, most buffs are because bosses have a lot more all field OHK moves that inflict annoying statuses like nightmare or stun. Rean isn't even very good. I use Jusis as an evasion tank and mostly use noble order along with the fighting spirit belt to keep recovering cp. Alisa uses Heaven's Gift to give everyone shining and gradual health recovery while Ema and Eliot nuke with artes. Echoes beat is useful once in a while but you can skip it.
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>>254441907
>artes
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>>254441907
I just buff necessary stats and use Tauros+Laura in a crit time while putting up a tank in front.
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>>254441784
It's not a tapestry, it's actually just a cleaner cloth iirc.

and man, for a second I thought you got the bundle that came with Loewe in it.
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Is it feasible to play the japanese version and just translate it all myself with barely any japanese knowledge? like having a kanji dictionary open while I play.
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>>254442532
It's been said already, but with a text hooker and a grammar reference, yes.
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>>254442532
That sounds unproductive.
Just learn Kana in a few days, go through all of Tae Kim guide for grammar and then do that.
Then it would be slightly less stupid.
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>>254442792
>Tae Kim
Don't do that. Use Imabi instead.
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>>254442532
With a text hook and a decent knowledge of Japanese, yeah maybe. Not really a good idea however.
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>>254442089

Yes, artes and crafts.

>>254442201

I don't get why people like Talos as a master quartz. Yeah, it increases damage, but the base stats aren't very good and half the artes are offensive and thus useless to Laura.

Wing/Aegis/Cannon/Pandra master race. Uncomparable levels of evasion, absurd healing abilities, and faster casting speed for wind, earth, and illusion artes, meaning all the holy bless, adam's shield, and crescent mirror you could ask for.
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>>254425840

Damn, is that the MC of 3rd Chapter? He looks fucking shitty.
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Worst Sens
Arisa, Elize, Emma, Laura

Best Sens
Sarah, Angelica, Towa, Alfin, Claire, Sharon, Miriam, Vita
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>>254443092
>Talking shit about based Kevin
Leave
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I refuse to let Xseed's shit hold me back any longer. I'm gonna struggle through moonrunes and learn this clusterfuck of a language doing whatever retarded text hooker bullshit I have to and play these motherfucking games. And when I'm done, I'm going to fap to that one purple haired bitch so fucking hard I die.
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>>254443074
Aeon, Pandora, Criminal, and Murakumo here.
Aeon does the buff, debuff, and healing
Pandora and Criminal arts nuking
and Murakumo for tanking and physical damage/ occasional s-break turn stealing.
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>>254443495
oops I mean Moebius instead of Aeon.
That AoE item usage is so good, even better than using healing spells.
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>>254443074
I mostly just used it as a s-craft nuke plus that one quartz that 2x the damage of the first attack.

I haven't gone too far to get some of the other quartz, but I'm seeing most use in Criminal, Falco, Aegis, Canon, and weirdly enough Mistral even though I think it's kinda shit.

Also, kinda wished Alisa wasn't such a singly-purposed character whose existence is justified by 2 crafts. At least Jusis can do decent damage physically or magically.

Still, she is too good not include in a party when possible.
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>>254443442
This.
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All this Sen hate make me happy, fuck that animu cliche BS.
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>>254443904
gaijin's opinion doesn't matter, but apparantly the Japs are eating Elize and Towa right up just because they're cute girls
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>>254442238
what came in the ar nosurge box?
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>>254443904
And yet every single one of us will buy Sen 2.
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>>254443904
I like Sen.
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Haccan confirmed for worst designer, even Enami is better.
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My jap skill is about little girl cartoons level, what game is easy enough for me to play it raw?
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>>254443495
>>254443743

I like Criminal. 90% chance of crit artes can get really funny when you have red ats buff.

It's Iron, not Aeon.

Mobius plus items is nowhere near as good as Cannon. Cannon makes healing so powerful that you can heal about 7k damage without buffs if you use Tear. Holy Bless basically becomes an infinitely cheaper and much faster version of Seraphim Ring, minus gradual healing. But if you're using Cannon right with Eliot, you have Echoes Beat for that.

Pandora is incredibly based. Half the time required for illusion artes and double damage in exchange for more EP? With Machias spamming energy shell, sign me up.

I'm not a fan of Murakumo though. You get it too late in the game to easily get it to level 5, meaning you don't get double crit damage.
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>>254444201
>Haccan
>Bad designer
Admittedly, his faces aren't great, but his attention to detail in the clothes and accessories is unmatched. Plus, he's great at colouring
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>>254444239
none
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>>254444239
Kiseki game? None. In general? Zelda games are made for children and are very easy. RPG wise you have Dragon Quests, Digimon and Tales of games being very easy. Action games in general are really easy as well like Ape Escape.
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>>254444201
What's with the nonowa
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>>254444116
Damn straight, and it will be the best of the series since it's the 7th
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>>254444116
As much as Sen is worst Kiseki, Im still going to buy multiple copies of Sen ??
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>>254444182
like not love, thatĀ“s Sen problem
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>>254444045
Sony Japs eat up anything moe.
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>>254444635
yeah, because of all the anime stereotypes, Rean, Elize, the uninteresting antagonists barring C, and the school uniforms made Sen a good jrpg instead of a great jrpg like Zero no Kiseki.
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>>254444635
Sen is a prologue akin to FC so the fate of Sen as a whole depends highly upon the sequel.

I still don't like Elize.
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>>254444201
Looks like they are doing the "awesome" emoticon face.
Both of them.
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>>254444441
DonĀ“t get me wrong, he is a god tier artist just not a very good designer.
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>>254444201
fuck you now I can't unsee
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>>254444635
Not every Kiseki can be as good as 3rd and Ao, we all have to accept that
>>254444868
Go back to shitposting /vg/, leave this thread alone you fucking asshole
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>>254437113
>Hatsuu has gone on a limb sayingthere is no way they'll work with Zero and Ao
Do you have any source on that if you;re still here? I want my last shred of hope destroyed.
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>>254445039
Please don't be a browser game
please
please
please
please
Be at least a MMO without IP Block
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>>254445095
I'd wager that if these two sell well it would give them incentive to keep going.
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>>254445039
>dat broken left leg
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>>254445039
and lets not forget Estelle's face>>254414827
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Why are people so excited about this game?
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>>254445063
>replying
stop.
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Do japs really like the army school setting?
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>>254445149
They already confirmed it to be iOS/Android.
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>>254445095
None that I'm willing to dig up, try searching the archives for her posts on /vg/. She has mentioned it at least on a couple of occasions.
>>254445149
Confirmed for not mobile. It's on PC and most likely an MMO, too lazy to post the homepage
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>>254445149
MOBA
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>>254445238
You'd wager wrong. Xseed don't have the rights to Ao and Zero. They simply can't afford it.
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>>254445296
of course, as much as we hate anime cliches, Japs love them and made Sen the most financially successful Kiseki to date, much to our chagrin

That's why Sen II will be the deciding point for me. To see if Falcom truely ruined Kiseki with animu crap or if the sequel is as good as SC or Ao
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>>254445296
Quite
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>>254444885

How were any of the Erebonian liberation front uninteresting? Gideon already died in Ao so it's not like he was going to be developed very much. Scarlet is interesting because she has a temple sword. One does not simply find one of those on the street, and the church always shows up when artifacts are involved. Wazy can't show up because he's in Lemphelia with Wald and Abbas, but Kevin, Ries, Ein, and presently unrevealed Dominions/Grals Ritter members can show up. Vulcan was pretty boring, but Crow has potential because we still don't know what happened to Jurai and how he discovered that he was a Riser, let alone how he found Audine. Also Kondo promised he would meet a cruel fate, so that should be fun.
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Seems like they won't be party members
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Played Zero and Ao as my entrance into the series. Loved em both. Would've been nice to play the evolution versions for full VA but ehh. Too bad these games are so thick it's gonna take me a long time to get through the rest. I need a break in between.

Now if only Sen Vita would get cheaper.
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What if Marvelous buy Falcom
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>>254445390
Thank god.

>>254445497
Calm down, they didn't hate it. If you go to peace.2ch we all agree it's the weakest entry of the series.

It's the best selling Kiseki game due to all the build up fame from Zero and Ao which were god tier RPGs, and hella fucking good marketing.
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>>254445276
>>254445276
>>254445276
please responderino
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>>254445754
It's the The Last Half Life 3 of weeb jrpgs
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>>254445754
Ignore the series unless you're willing to learn moon.
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>>254445740
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>>254445749
>hella fucking good marketing

Mainly marketing. That's why it sold.
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>>254445653
I admit Scarlet's weapon gave me a good flashback to Ries, hopefully she and Vulcan gets more development other than BOOHOO RICH PEOPLE KILLED MY BAND OF THUGS
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>>254441201
So awful.
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>>254445653
remind me again, who were Jurai and Audine?
>>
Reading xseeddude's posts it sounds like they'll stop at 3rd.
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>Carpe Fulgur + NISA do Ao and Zero
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>>254446482

Jurai is the province Crow comes from. It was absorbed by the Empire. We don't know why yet or what happened there, but it clearly has Crow upset enough to try and kill Gilias as well as start a revolution. Audine is the God Knight that Crow pilots. Image related.
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What if Xseed publishes their own games like Atlus USA is doing with Citizen Earth / ACE Team games
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>>254446482
>>254446772
Blue Gundam is Ordine, not Audine
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>>254446719
I can't wait
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>>254446719
GOD NO
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>>254446719
That sounds terrible.
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>>254446772
>>254446927
ah I see. I better see something tragic and not just the same boohoo rich people killed my family now I'm mad. And isn't it ironic that the Empire Liberation Front are working for the rich people to overthrow other rich people Gillias and the emperor?
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>Cerulean Marks
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>>254447202
Used goods.
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>>254447202
My heart.

Every time man, I think I almost cried at some parts of zero.
I'll never forgive those DG faggots
>>
>>254446927

Who cares about romanization? Orudiine sounds more like Audine to me. Ordine sounds more like Oar and Japanese doesn't have a hard R sound. Whatever, you know what I'm talking about.
>>
>>254446719
I honestly wouldn't mind. At least it's something. I'd be happy to hear someone localizing them using google translate.
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>>254447374
But you gotta admire DG's ingenuity
>oh shit we need funding to run our crazy Gnosis experiments
>I know let's whore our little girls out to make mad money!
>>
>>254447376
Well, people are going to be confused when you romanize Ordine as Audine, since the former is what is commonly used in english speaking fandom.
>>
>Not Alldyn
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>>254447534

Fine I'll just say blue god knight every time. Not like there's another character or artifact with a comparable name.
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Fuck. It was on Zero that it was explained that the children in paradise were actually real.

Renne just "absorbed" their personalities and took them as their own

My mind was literally blown.
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>>254447506
More like whoring little girls and their blackmailing their clients, which is even better.
captcha - lihtsss business
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oh wow we hit bump limit again
I don't think I'm ready for another Kiseki thread. I still need to beat Gildias on Nightmare Felghana
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>>254414350
I donĀ“t think Estelle is 100% straight.
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>>254447812
>Lloyd feeling remorse for not being able to save Joahim or whatever his name was

Fucking Lloyd, man. That man deserved to be beheaded and his rice fields, burned.
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>>254447864
I can't even defeat the first boss (the monster girl one). I already have the Ruby but how do I use it? The farthest I can go is to 100/300 of her HP
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>>254448056
of course Estelle is straight. She's just growing into a fine woman with great sister and motherly instincts after she bump ugly with Joshua
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>>254448205
just remeember for to dodge her horizontal disc at the last second becuase it will curve and home in on you if you jump too early
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>>254448056
Best mother.

>tfw they make a side story of Renne, Estelle and Joshua living together

Falcom, please.

Make sora evo first though
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>>254448394
Only if it's genderbent Joshua.
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>>254448394
The biggest problem with making sora evo first is that they would have to do FC first.

And then do the rest. Unless they decide to do the whole trilogy, which would require waaay too much money spent on VA.
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>>254448360
I can't dodge her wind/gust attack, and also her lightning attack.

Please, I want to get gud
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>>254448394
You are forgetting someone anon
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Well I'm beat. If you guys want to make another Kiseki thread go right ahead. But otherwise thanks for the 5 hours of great Kiseki discusion bros. I'm off to kick Gildia's ass in Felghana.
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>>254448713
How can one man be so based?
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>>254448713
>So overpowered not even the writers can kill him off
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>>254448650
lead one wind ball to the left, and another to the right so you have room to manuever between the two and her discs
>>
i've not played one of these games before, but i'm surprised that it's so niche that they haven't been translated for other 10 years.

you'd think by now some hardcore fans would have gotten tired of waiting and did their own fan translation.
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>>254448909
>you'd think by now some hardcore fans would have gotten tired of waiting and learned Japanese/ Chinese/ Korean
ftfy
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>>254448750
You know, something awesome about Renne's arc was just how it concluded.

It felt that if Estelle really wanted to adopt Renne, then Estelle had to be ready to accept all of her, and her past.
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>>254448909
They treid, then xseed came and then they decided to respect xseed releases. The rest is history
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>>254448909
They tried. They couldn't get the game to take English text without breaking it. Everybody else just learned Japanese.
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>>254448909
The problem is the length of the games. No decent translator would want to pick it up for free.
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on page 10 now. See you next thread. This thread is going to the skies
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>>254449294
Or for a cheap price.

And for a game so niche being so costly, that's a big problem for a small company
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