>>254402064 I don't really know about Nintendo. I think they will make a stop gap product fill in before launching a hybrid portable console? Sony will probably concentrate on mobile though with PSM. Better margins, lower risks and easy exposure to mass market.
>>254402064 i can easily see nintendo doing another especially if they do the whole handheld/console hybrid thing for the next gen but pretty sure that sony has had enough from the dedicated handheld business at best they would try some sony xperia v2 or something equivalent
>>254403539 >The second handhelds die I quit vidya more rhythm games on the big screen and good riddance to all those ports with extra content that come 2-3 years after the original is out while the home console versions do not even get them as dlc
>>254402064 Sony´s? Maybe. I guess its up to freedom wars. Nintendo? Nein, niet, no. Nintendo is making more money with its handheld stuff than with home consoles. We might see the end of Nintendo home consoles, or even a the birth of a new hybrid, but Nintendo handhelds are here to stay.
>>254404853 The success of the DS is the highest a handheld has ever gone. Now I doubt the 3DS will surpass it, but I am pretty sure it'll surpass the Game Boy Advance, Game Boy Color, original Game Boy, Game & Watch, PSP, Vita, Game Gear, and whatever other handhelds have existed in sales.
Let there just be one system and a handheld device that plays the same exact games as one would on a stationary console. Let us choose if we play a game on a TV at home or on a portable TV in our hands. No separate products, no separate development, everyone wins. >>254403539 I don't see there being any difference in playing a game on a 3DS or a phone.
If it's not at least playable on my TV, it's not worth my time.
>original DS sold over 150 million units >3DS has sold more than all home consoles combined and is the best selling hardware week after week >is this the end of handhelds? OH GOD OH GOD IM SO RETARDED HURR DURR
I don't think Nintendo will ever stop with handhelds. They're pretty good at taking people by surprise with them. Every time someone says "What gimmick could they possibly use now?" Nintendo replies with "Well, how about we just show you." and then they do.
I legitimately have no clue where Nintendo can go with handhelds at this point aside from HD graphics for the next gen of handhelds, but we'll see. I'm sure they've got something in the works already.
I don't like that because what makes handhelds special is that they aren't consoles. They generally are a haven for a different kind of design philosophy - smaller games or games with a higher risk concept have a better shot at succeeding on handhelds these days. Personally I don't like where console gaming is going, so for me this idea would kill handhelds.
>>254404853 well the ds one of the best selling consoles off all time, not a fair comparison honestly. the 3ds is tracking behind(in hardware and software sales) the ds and gba(both of nintendos most successful consoles) but ahead of the GBC, PSP, GB etc etc
it will probably sell 70-80 million when all said and done
>>254405124 You had to jump into the monster craze decades ago if you wanted to hold ground in this day and age. So long as Pokemon exists, every other game about capturing monsters and using them to fight will go under the radar, except for maybe the Dragon Quest monster games, which are still kind of overlooked.
>>254405716 I own Vita. And it is pretty damn terrible. Hardware wise the only good thing about it is the display (which they got rid of in newer revision). Other than that - buttons are small, analog sticks are not as comfortable as for example the 3ds slider. Replacing game cartridge is very clunky experience, who the heck thought of doing it like a memory card. But that's minor issues, games on the other hand... jesus fucking christ I want to kill the assholes who came up with touch controls.
Lumines, Wipeout 2048 (which has way more terrible music and simpler controls) - menu controls only via touchscreen. WHY? What the actual fuck? Game controls via buttons, but menu to get into the game - only touch, buttons do not respond! Stupid Modnation I got via PS+ is worse - there is a ton of customatization in that game with little short sliders, which you CAN'T precise control via buttons, ONLY via touch controls. It was most terrible way to control all that shit.
Dynasty Warriors goes fucking higher. Menu controls perfectly via buttons, but when you get into the game - TOUCH SCREEN TO ACTIVATE MUSOU ATTACK - WHYYY!?!?! There are a lot of perfectly free buttons and button combinations. What the fuuuck... And then "SHAKE YOU SYSTEM TO INCREASE DAMAGE" - fucking serious?
Don't forget wonderful "region free" thing. Yeah you can use any game on a system, but what about DLCs? PSN only games? If you want something from PSN of other region - be ready to format you memory card because Vita can use only fucking one PSN acc at a time. Oh, and PSP games looks blurry as hell, especially text on games like FF Tactics is just blurry enough to be hurting to read.
And bullshit like this is the reason PS Vita sucks balls, only thing which actually gave me a reason to keep it is gorgeous Muramasa Rebirth, Disgaea 3/4. And few other games I'm planning to obtain. But if there isn't any particular set of games you clearly want - I'd avoid this piece of touch madness as plague.
>>254405415 You don't understand why there is a handheld/console split. People wanted to play games on the go, but anyone knows that a portable device will have less power than a stationary one.
The west likes power. They want consoles and PCs and big rigs. The more power and realism, the better. Japan prefers convenience. They want to be able to bring their games with them, power isn't really that important to them.
Big name western developers generally ignore handhelds, they see them as devices for children because they're not super powerful or realistic. That's why most big games on handhelds are Japanese. You are not going to find a western console manufacturer who wants to make a portable device because it will bomb because western consumers want POWER.
If they do happen to make a handheld as powerful as a high-end gaming PC, you can bet your ass it'll cost a fuckton of money, much, much more than if it was console size. And because of that, it will bomb because no one will be able to afford it, and publishers won't bother investing in a device with such a hefty price tag.
>>254406401 >is okay with the 3DS' 240p eye-cancer screen and atrocious browser, camera, and music player >just what the fuck is wrong with you
Are you some sort of clown or do you just value shit that has nothing to do with good games. Did you decry the Gameboy for monochrome display while changing your colour display gamegears batteries every hour?
>>254406413 True, but some people want newer or exclusive to the Vita weeb games. And then some people try to get it as a legitimate handheld and are disappointed by the lack of anything BUT weeb games.
>>254405454 A patent was made last year by Nintendo of a portable 3DS-like device with replaceable buttons. You basically get the option of having up to 4 sets of ABXY buttons, 4 sets of Dpads, or 4 sets of Circle Pads, and you can mix and match. You just slide the set you want right into the top or bottom right or left side of the handheld.
I'm actually really curious as to what sort of handheld Nintendo could be cooking up next. Think they'll ever do less than two screens again?
I'd like to see something with >Bigger carts >Dual joysticks/circlepads standard >either pairs of shoulder buttons or shoulders and triggers (with some sort of way to slide the triggers into the system so they don't get all messed up in your pocket) >AT LEAST Wii-tier graphics >Screen/speakers that fold in to the middle, but nice comfy hand-holds and buttons
That's one thing I never understood about people who bitch about the 3DS' resolution. Yeah Vita's is better, but if 3DS's is so bad then how do you play any handheld that predates the fucking PSP? I get that standards shift and evolve as time goes on but we're making a mountain out of a molehill here. I jump between my launch 3DS and Vita all the time and it's not that jarring.
>>254407071 The design looks a little clunky, but I like what you're looking for. Here's hoping Nintendo is able to make the perfect handheld one day. But the DS was the closest they'd come to perfection in a while.
>>254407286 >This game requires four circle pads! >This game requires a special pad insert (sold separately)! >Games having completely unique placements that make familiarizing yourself with the console nearly impossible
No, sir, I don't like it.
Actually, I'd have to witness one first to be certain.
>>254405415 >Vidya on a handheld Same standards as console/PC gaming, familiar interface, platform is dedicated to gaming
>Vidya on a phone Schlock slapped together by jews specifically designed to instill a constant sense of false progression and validation whilst encouraging you to spend a dollar for "just a few more moves."
Phone gaming is essentially the poster child for everything terrible about vidya going mainstream.
When my mind goes to the dark places... I envision the champion of cancer as a cum dumpster astride sentient horse armor wielding an iphone5 that burns with infernal flame.
>>254407626 I don't have a stylus or anything so that's the best I could do. With that you'd have a nice bug screen and be able to grip it well with only shoulder/trigger buttons exposed when it's closed. The volume and brightness/menu buttons are in that bar on top (brightness, volume clickers, menu).
The only thing they keep getting wrong is how it fits in your FUCKING HANDS.
I get mad hand cramps if I play any DS for too long. It needs to be slightly rounded and with a place for your fingers to grip instead of supporting it with your palms or pinkies. Or be light enough to support with palms/pinkies and still have a decent grip.
And fold-away triggers would be cool. Maybe they have internal lock buttons that let you disengage the spring (or whatever) so you can either lock it in "out" position or "in" position. When it's out everything is pushed out (shoulders and triggers) but when it's in all the buttons are flush with the console.
>>254407767 I think that developers will make games that fit the bare minimum, but will make optional control schemes that incorporate additional buttons for enhanced controls. It looks nothing like the Circle Pad Pro, like it's nowhere near as big. They're just little circular pieces of plastic that slide right into the side. A secondary Circle Pad piece would probably be $10 at the most, and be included with the console. I'll try to find the picture of the patent.
Also, I hope that 3D is brought into the next generation as well, I use it all the time on my 3DS.
>>254408375 >It needs to be slightly rounded and with a place for your fingers to grip Honestly, I feel kinda weird about that whole idea. I feel like having a grip would be fantastic and feel so much better, but then I feel like I wouldn't be able to go back to any other handheld Nintendo had made prior to the addition of finger grips.
>>254402064 For Sony they should enter in the same market Nvidia Shield is doing. Sony is in the wrong market if they want people to care about specs. Xperia Play/PSM is what they need to be working on.
As for Nintendo I'm not sure how the handheld and console fusion thing would work. Another Wii U style hybrid wouldn't work. Cheap handheld that plays games by itself, and a console that plays games by itself would work.
>>254408942 Policies may be similar but the people behind them are vastly different. Microsoft has no fucking clue what they're doing anymore, at least Sony is slightly aware of how gaming is supposed to be.
Based Nintendo just needs to pull their fucking heads out of their asses and release a competitive console again.
MS is far worse. Sony's biggest sin with handhelds is both the lack of a franchise to sell it and the know-how to market a handheld in the first place. The games they get aren't bad, it's just that they don't know how to get people to buy them. Coincidentally, this is the one thing MS is fucking amazing at. Say what you will about their games, but Jesus Christ can they market their shit.
>>254405225 Outselling the GBA is pretty doubtful, too. At least year on year (it took what? 3 years for the DS to be released after the GBA?)
The handheld market is super small now. Only kids and nerds buy handhelds, and less and less kids are playing them every day. The PSP and DS sold a ton because Sony and Nintendo marketed them as filling the same niches phones do now (watch videos! Listen to music! Waste your time with games like Brain Age!) If you're not into Japanese games, what reason is there left to get an expensive dedicated handheld?
If anything, I expect this generation of handhelds to be dragged out for as long as the last one, if not longer. Nintendo and Sony's idea of competition will be providing something cheaper than a cell phone or iPod Touch to give to your kid.
>>254409316 I have no idea how the Gamecube came out on the bottom in sales, but I remember it being the least popular when I was younger. It was still fun but I had one friend out of like 20-30 who owned one.
>>254409124 >Sony is slightly aware of how gaming is supposed to be What makes you say that? So far they've done everything to make me think otherwise with them supporting David Cage and their push for video games to be recognise as some art form? Sony is a joke and they come into this industry and survive now only to push this agenda. It's pretentious as fuck. Sony is a joke.
>>254408779 It might be called something else entirely. >Game & Watch line - 1980 to 1991 >Game Boy line (Game Boy, Pocket, Light, Color, Advance, SP, Micro) - 1989 to 2006 >Nintendo DS line (DS, DS Lite, DSi, DSi XL, 3DS, 3DS XL, 2DS) - 2004 to 2014+
Ok 4chan I need your help.I was at the office (yes, I do have a job) and some old manager came to me while I was playing the ps vita.He thought it was a tablet.I told him it was a vg console.Then he wanted to see some games.I picked up some with good graphics that would impress normalfags.He was blown the fuck out.He then said some shit about how technology improves blablabla
But then 2 days ago he saw me playing the 3ds. I was playing pokemon
>Hey Anon, what happened with your PS? Did you sell it? Uh..no, I have both, this is a Nintendo >Oh a Nintendo,I had one long ago, what are you playing? Pokemon... >Oh Pokemon,the show that my kids watch... Ehh...yeah,but the game is a bit more strategi..(interrupted by him) >Let me see,enter a battle or something
He finds the obvious.240p low poly,shit textures everywhere,terrible sound,kiddie design,etc
>...why would you play that having that other PS? >Is this thing a cheap option for poor people? Are the games cheaper than PS? Eh, no,both cost 40 bucks >Why would someone waste 40 usd on this when they could play those great PS games? Are people retarded? (he stops for second realizing he called me retarded)...you know what I mean, dont you feel scammed by Nintendo? No, i-i-its about the games... >If they are selling stuff with this kind of technology they should sell it at 10 bucks tops. No way I would pay the same money for a Nintendo game knowing how great those playstation titles look in that huge screen >Why do you need 2 portable consoles anyways? >Why do you like kid´s games? >At least tell me the PS is selling 100 times more than the Nintendo one, because if they are selling the same then Nintendo must be doing some voodoo marketing to fool so many people Well...the ps vita isnt really selling that much this days...
Luckily someone called him and interrupted our conversation.How can I tell him next time that he is a retarded normalfag that should be executed, without being rude,since my job depends on it?
>>254409828 because mobile has better margins and more exposure. It's pretty obvious why. Square Enix are catching onto it much quicker than western developers though. make a 100k bet with 4 guys working on a phone game for 5 months with a Final Fantasy name attached to it and boom. Easily triple your investment.
>>254409828 Western developers either go for high power and GRAFIX (consoles/PC) or low risk shovelware (mobile). There's no room for just an average gaming device that focuses on gameplay in the west.
>>254410335 So Sony is not guilty of anything? Microsoft does not dictate their policies. Sony made those decisions and it's Sony's fault alone on this. Stop trying to find reason else where. Sony = MS.
The west is all about consoles and PC. Nintendo handhelds get by because of Mario and Pokemon. Sony has...well, that's the problem right there. They don't have Mario or Pokemon. PSP only sold because of piracy. This is why I consider the idea of trying to force western AAA games on Vita to be pants on head retarded. You're aiming for a middle market that doesn't exist. There is no way to make a western AAA game on Vita that wouldn't be better on console or PC. Despite admirable efforts like Killzone Mercenary, it just doesn't stand up to its console peers in terms of content and control fluidity. Still, they did a bang-up job in that particular instance.
>>254410519 Maximise profits by growing digital adoption of game purchases and downloads. They also want money from subscriptions because for steady revenue flow that they can at least count on in a weak quarter.
>>254404667 >smartphones >actually mattering when it comes to gaming handhelds. shit nigga, i have a smartphone and play games on it time to time, but there is no way in hell i would choose it over my 3ds. i get teh same feeling when people think that console gaming is overtaking PC. do people buy more consoles than they do pcs? yes, but with smartphones having new versions of teh same fucking phone every year, people feel the need to buy those to stay up to date, where handhelds don't change for a good couple of years. with consoles, people buy the new one because they have to in order to play the latest games. if you have a pc and you can't run a game, chances are you're just going to upgrade a single part which =/= buying a new pc all together.
Not quite. Graphics represents the actual tech side of things, artstyle is, well, the visual style. The better visuals on Wii are a good example of this - the graphics always fall short on Wii short of maybe the Galaxy/Conduit games, but games like MadWorld, No More Heroes, and Fragile Dreams rise above it with strong artstyles.
>>254410787 Fair enough, but meanwhile Xbox has also been pushing mandatory subscriptions for internet use and mandatory internet connectivity, plus a mandatory peripheral (until recently). Sony has made the subscription optional for most multiplayer games (IIRC, correct me if I'm wrong), allows regular internet use, doesn't force any peripherals and started the trend of giving out free games with a subscription.
>>254411241 It feels so weird, though. By the time the Vita graphics are outdated on handhelds, we'll have HMDs, 4K TVs will be common, as will 4K phones. The mobile industry is blazing ahead due to the smartphones, and phone people already see the Vita the way gamers see the 3DS. I'll probably end up buying the next DS/Gameboy for my kid, and hearing them complain about how old fashioned it is. :/
They're still doing very well in Japan, and also in Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, etc. It's possible that next generation of handhelds will only be released in East Asia, but there WILL be a next generation for Nintendo at least. Sony is a bit more of a question mark simply because so much of Sony's whole future as a company is up in the air, but if SCE survives, I expect they will probably stay in the handheld market, too.
>>254411551 >>254411725 The Vita's problem isn't really a lack of games, so much as it's a lack of notable IPs. The 3DS didn't get it's legs until Nintendo games came out for it. and pretty much all the handheld IPs that actually sell well are on Nintendo systems.
>Yeah, because making it more costly to make video games for the sake of graphics worked out super well for the Vita right?
Japanese devs don't think like Western devs do. They don't see powerful hardware and decide to make games that push the system to the limit and bankrupt the developers. They use it to make development easier and give themselves overhead. The Vita's hardware is only bad news to Redditfags who want to play Skyrim on the go.
Does it really matter as long as there is an improvement and the games are good?
I'd rather play something that looks outdated but has excellent gameplay and controls. "It doesn't have good enough graphics" just sounds like a cheap excuse from people valuing secondary parts of games(visual fidelity) above the primary.
>>254410601 >caring about graphics on a handheld you know what killed the vita? Most devs cant afford to make games for it since they need AAA bugdet because of graphics as opposed to low bugdet games on previous handhelds
>>254412306 >The Vita's problem isn't really a lack of games, so much as it's a lack of notable IPs. The 3DS didn't get it's legs until Nintendo games came out for it. and pretty much all the handheld IPs that actually sell well are on Nintendo systems.
Yup. It's brand names that sell and grab eyeballs. Quality and sales have long since been divorced. MH4 exclusivity was a catastrophic loss for vita in terms of perception. Nintendo ate sony's lunch, and everyone knew it.
>>254412443 I think the Vita is a good ceiling for handheld games, at least for the time being. It took a few years for me to go "wow, the PSP looks awful", and that was just because of the resolution. 544p is pretty decent. What's weird is that Nintendo and Sony were breaking out of the "IT SELLS BECAUSE IT'S CHEAP AND RELIABLE" mindset for handhelds and now we're going back to it. Sony knows making a 3rd PSP is suicidal and Nintendo never jumps to cutting edge, so we'll really be on this level for quite some time. I'm not really upset per se, it's just, I dunno, weird.
>>254412831 Most Vita devs don't make Western-style AAA games. They just make games that use the hardware power for stability and overhead. the idea that "Power = Expensive Games" only applies to Western AAAs.
Sony also didn't deliver quality though, a lot of their "console quality games on the go" like CoD were critically panned, Sony's own ports are pretty bad as well especially compared to Square Enix's efforts with FFX and FFX-2.
>>254412306 Sony doesn't really have high properties like that though. Not big ones that sell millions in Japan anyway. Their biggest IP are western and Japan doesn't exactly buy them in droves like Pokemon or MonHun. Nintendo also happen to have some of the most talented developers in Japan. It's not exactly easy for Studio Japan to compete and it's not really ethical for Sony to buy exclusives that they will not own. It's just shitty short term bandage like what Microsoft has done with Dead Rising.
A fool's errand from the beginning. Handhelds have never been a haven for Western games, and handheld Japanese games never needed the Vita's horsepower to thrive. Sony was retarded to try and marry console-level games and handhelds. They mix like oil and water.
Handhelds were my preference over home consoles. I'm not liking what Nintendo has offered for the 3DS, and they're too stupid to into digital and online communication. Haven't tried the Vita, but looks like most of my purchases will be imports.
I'm overall disappointed with this generation of handhelds so far. Who knows though. Sony might surprise me. The PSP was a joke, I hated it. Maybe the Vita is different.
>>254405124 Bait or total idiot. Nintendo most likely won't localize this. It has a culture gap that sensitive Christian American soccer moms will raise a huge fuss about moreso than they did with Pokemon. Pokemon sells well.
Sony's done decently in terms of games. They need more though. The lack of western studio support or even recognition is laughable. The running joke now is that sony is intentionally trying to kill the vita, though I'm not so sure it's a joke.
>>254413863 >It's such a pipe dream, but what if Sony's PlayStation division and Nintendo merged? Wouldn't that be nice? It would be fitting since SCE was created through an attempted partnership with Nintendo.
It would be good to see Nintendo buy SCE so it can be saved from the vortex that is Sony.
>>254414069 New IPs don't do that anymore. The last one to have that happen was MH and it took YEARS. Maybe, sony can try to ape L5 and create an anime and toys to market a game, but that's an awful lot of work just to get a million seller that'll probably fizzle in a couple years when the new trend hits.
>>254414208 >>254414349 Don't forget greater and greater app compatibility issues. Holding back updates on non-nexus phones have led devs to work hard on compatibility, though, so you might be okay for a while.
>>254414629 The WiiU would be doing great if they tried to compete with a more powerful console. The Vita would be doing great if it had any notable IPs. The console market as a whole would be doing better if all the good Japanese games weren't divided into so many platforms.
>>254414779 >Don't forget greater and greater app compatibility issues Eh, I don't especially care. The aps I use won't be made worse or unusable from a lack of upgrade and it's a phone first and an app-clusterfuck second. I can still get on the internet and use the practical aps I want. I can't imagine how ridiculous you'd have to be to demand a new one every year. Maybe 3 years at minimum, that's fine.
>>254415269 The Wii U is doing poorly but it's not horrendous. Its future looks much brighter than it's past, which is unfortunately not the same for Vita. I still think Smash is gonna sell a few Wii U's especially with it coming Q4.
>>254415269 >The Vita would be doing great if it had any notable IPs. Nah. Initial price point was way too high in this day and age. Proprietary memory cards also created another barrier for potential customers. Sony once again just like with the PS3 were slow to react to the market.
A hybrid device should exist now. The 3DS should be able to transmit to the Wii-U so you can simply use it as a relay to play games on the big screen, same for the Vita / PS3 / PS4. That's pretty much the killer feature I would want, the ability to play the same game on a TV set and on a portable device that keep each other up to date with the same progress. Nintendo needs to get on board with this, and also transition to universal accounts that are not tied to specific platforms/hardware. You oughta be able to play your eshop Super Mario Land 2 on both devices after buying it once.
It's simple really, make a working version for both platforms (even simpler if it's emulation, you only have to write a emulator once for each platform), and some infrastructure to sync save data, something internet based preferably (cloud saves like Steam does it) so you don't have to be near your home console with your portable to get your latest progress.
I think one of the PS4 promotional videos I watched mentioned something like this, does it do it yet? If so, Nintendo needs to catch up.
>>254414878 The Wii U is making progress with online. The 3DS is not. Microsoft and Sony do this, and Nintendo doesn't because "children". It's annoying.
>>254415010 The holy ghost is not the same as other spirits to them, "friendly" demons and the like. There is no such concept as a "friendly" demon to soccer moms. They're all bad. Any "ghost" besides the holy ghost is a "product of Satan" and is going to be bitched about. "Another 'god' besides my God?" It's a preposterous thought for them.
Aside from the concept of refined cross-play that you're suggesting, I don't see the point of a hybrid console. I already said it earlier in this thread, but for me the appeal of handhelds is that they aren't consoles. The last thing I want is for the two to be meaningfully tied.
Theres more fucking games out there an AAA ports for the vita
What is really wrong with you anons? Do you not look for any games for the thing? Theres also more than weeb shit.
YES the vita also has shovelware you can play in public Why would you be indulging in such a distraction in public anyway? Where I live if i pulled out a handheald some weird ass old bum might try and rob me
>>254416758 vita tv isn't compatible with a lot of games and is a dumb reason to do that. I think they were just throw crap at the wall and hoping for it to stick. Maybe they figured price was the problem and a 99usd would solve it. If they were looking for money, I'd be willing to bet the 10usd addon would be a more profitable move than the vita tv. Less marketing, less engineering, cables have huge markups, etc.
>>254402064 Maybe for Sony I don't see how they can improve on the Vita right now without making it cost more. Nintendo on the other hand there is no chance. Handhelds is the only reason Nintendo is keeping there head above water. I also believe 3ds is done. Nintendo have given it games and now they are going to move onto the next handheld.
My issue with a two-way street is that it'd probably homogenize the fuck out of handhelds. It's a cool idea in concept, but I see it as one of those ideas that's only cool IN CONCEPT. Kinda like how supposedly people wished games would become more cinematic after seeing games like FF7 in action, and look where we are now.
>>254417529 >I also believe 3ds is done. Nintendo have given it games and now they are going to move onto the next handheld. It's consistently topping hardware charts. As in it is outselling shitty western home consoles every single week.
Nintendo won't abandon the thing that is making them a ton of money right now. I'm assuming you are thinking of E3 when you say Nintendo are finished with it. E3 is a western show and the Wii U needed love desperately.
I think as technology marches on, handhelds will catch up to modern console game design anyway. I don't think you're gonna see a whole lot of inferior, lower resolution stuff for long just because it's on a handheld. The smart phone industry is pushing that tech forward, too, with better, smaller, more energy efficient processors that can do 10x better with each iteration. I just think the uniqueness of handhelds that comes from working with limited resources is closing the gap, is all.
>>254415965 >The holy ghost is not the same as other spirits to them, "friendly" demons and the like. There is no such concept as a "friendly" demon to soccer moms. They're all bad. Any "ghost" besides the holy ghost is a "product of Satan" and is going to be bitched about. "Another 'god' besides my God?" It's a preposterous thought for them. I don't know if I trust you as an authority on this.
>>254415965 >The Wii U is making progress with online. The 3DS is not. Microsoft and Sony do this, and Nintendo doesn't because "children". It's annoying. You really paint everything in a broad brush that doesn't really reflect the nuances of the situations.
The one time I saw somebody with a Vita they were at the Nintendo Best-Buy event this year and they were not hiding their power level. We hung out for a minute so I could try it out (he was nice) but holy shit the smell off of him. I'm not even trying to be all Quentin or something but Jesus Christ, take showers people at least 1 time a week if you're going out in public like that.
>>254417901 They already have 2014 has been a shit year for 3ds. What is it getting in 2015 2 games? Nintendo is abandoning it as we speak, the reason being that it's already made it's peak sales. 3ds will continue to trend down and Nintendo need to look ahead at the next device.
>>254415965 >The Wii U is making progress with online. The 3DS is not Nintendo doesn't invest heavily into online because once the online dies the game dies. Sectioning off a portion of gameplay for online and killing it off at the end of a generation kills a portion of the game.
So the question is: Should Nintendo split development effort between single player and online, or focus on one that will stand the test of time?
>>254418507 >There are tons of 10min shitty distraction games on the Vita only someone who doesn't own a Vita would say otherwise.
The 3DS has great games which are designed that way: *Luigi's Mansion 2 has a short mission structure. *Mario 3D Land follows that with it's level design. *Star Fox 64 3D already fits that design. *Mario Kart 7 has cups which fit into 10-15 minutes to beat.
The problem is that the PSVita has poor quality handheld designed games and poor quality "console quality" titles.
>>254419508 >Nintendo doesn't invest heavily into online because once the online dies the game dies. Sectioning off a portion of gameplay for online and killing it off at the end of a generation kills a portion of the game. I really appreciate this philosophy. I don't want games I can't play when the servers are pulled.This is why I can't really get into MMOs.
As a side note, is that what Destiny is? Like there is no offline single player? I was told that but I don't think it's true.
You're not the only demographic. Think about when you were like, say 10-12 years old. Maybe your family made you go camping, or to stay in a beach house for a week vacation. If you were like I was, you were sad to leave your video games behind. I even dragged my consoles and a portable TV with me because I was so stubborn. That kid might totally wanna play uncharted for a week even though it's not right for a 20 year old on the bus for 10 minutes.
>>254420569 Of course, I was just making a point, I am not interested in Uncharted either. Swap in any serious attempt to have a full console experience on a handheld you prefer, it doesn't matter. Resident Evil Revelations maybe? Whatever it is, your 10 year old self would have totally loved to have it during some boring stretch you were made to endure. It's easy to forget this shit once you're an adult, especially if you've had a gameboy of some kind your whole life. You aren't really the primary demographic anymore.
>>254421062 Knowing Sony they will release a successor to the Vita. Instead of selling off their bleeding TV division what did I had to constantly endure during the WC? >SONY 4K SONY 4K SONY 4K They like to hold on to stuff. Also the Vita is not selling that badly in Japan. Maybe for the next gen our weebs that dislike everything that isn't weeb will have to play all their games in Japanese because western support will be dropped entirely.
>>254419607 So your point is irrelevant. You said the Vita didn't have anything that can fill 10 min. I can list numerous indie titles and games like Wipeout, Dragon's Crown, Muramasa, Katamari etc that can fill 10min. You are changing the goalpost now saying Vita doesn't have quality time wasters your so full of bs. 3ds fanboy please don't bother making shit up when you clearly have not touched a Vita in your life.
>>254415637 >If I'm sitting on a bus for 10 minutes tops with a million distractions, do I really want to start playing Uncharted? I mean seriously what the actual fuck. Would you really want to play any game on a bus with a million distractions? There's a place and a time to play any video game. I wouldn't play my 3DS or my Vita on a bus, subway, or any busy form of busy transportation.
The fact that both have a standby mode make it possible to play any game, even if its an expansive experience. >Sony has absolutely no idea what handhelds are for I commend Sony for giving me the option to play something as big as YS, or Muramasa on a handheld. The fact that you gloss over all the 'pick up and play' titles the Vita does have makes me suspect that you don't own one.
Monster Hunter 3 on the 3DS isn't an expansive experience akin to consoles?
>>254418376 >And Ive seen a lot of people playing Vitas No you haven't. Hardly anybody has one and those that do don't play them in public. Probably because of all the embarrassing animu decals they plastered all over it.
>>254413163 Fucking this. FFX+FFX2 are so far away from ps vita titles in every fucking front like sound, graphics, design, content, side quests, value that its almost a joke. I have yet to see a ps vita title with as much value as those games. Ps vita devs are not even trying.
so yesterday my little brother pop into my room and ask me try this new "game" that he download on the ipad it's basically a reflex based game with wrong and right button for simple addition. essentially they throw out an equation like "4+4 =8" and it gives you like less than 3 seconds to choose the correct answer and you try to get right answers as much as you can, time out and you done, one wrong and you're done that is fucking mobile gaming right there
>>254427161 It's not a very good game but as an educational device that includes gamification it's great. More educational things should use gamification, enjoy as you learn. Then you will have skills to use when it's less enjoyable.
It's hard to motivate somebody to do a task if their plunge into it is horrible and boring. It's logical to get people pumped any way they can about cleaning shit, doing garbage pickup, using basic arithmetic, whatever
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