Loved 1, enjoyed 2, beat 3, and I have 4 and D2, but haven't played more than the first two levels. Either I'm getting old, or Disgaea has turned into shit while I wasn't looking.
To have better characters than the insufferable cast of D4 (except for Valz). To focus more on making generics more unique like the did on D3 returns. I loved how some generics could be better/more useful than the main characters.
good graphics and some porn (sadly Japan doesn't do much Disgaea anymore).
Story yet again following the steps of D1, and hopefully a gameplay that is fluid like DD2 but where you are less passive in things like the training rooms or the itemworld grinding (fuck running 999 levels to the exits. There should be a way to increase the count efficiently by fucking playing).
Also monsters in genral still sucking for late game.
I want to preorder the US version of Disgaea 4 Vita so I get it 3 weeks earlier but im not sure if I can import my save from european D3Vita
Nothing, because I don't give a shit about Disgaea games that aren't 1 or D2.
Also, my recent PS3's death wiped my Disgaea and D2 saves which were well on their way to fighting Baal, so I'm kinda done with SRPG's for a while.
1 was a charming adventure with the occassional self-referencial humor.
2 was your typical manga fantasy demon story from the mid 2000s.
3 was awful trash full of the same joke repeated over and over even thought they were horrible.
4 was pretty all right.
D2 brought back some of the charm from the first game, but it was more akin to 4 than 1.
At least it didn´t have all those upside down rules from 3 and 4.
3 was basically the concept of Axel´s character made into a story, so confusing and retarded.
Either cancellation or rushed to market, they have none of the big names that worked on the series anymore, they all stomped out last summer, so their main artist, programmer and his staff, and musician are gone.
>3 was awful trash full of the same joke repeated over and over even thought they were horrible.
>same joke repeated over and over
>4 was pretty all right.
Yeah you probably didn't play 4, and mentioning Axel on 3 is even more funny considering how prominent he is on 4. 4 is better than 3 but no better than 3 returns.
A better plot than DD2, new characters better than that trainwreck D3, fix that Dojo thing (it takes fucking forever for you to actually notice a change, fuck that), and PLEASE LESS TYPOS, DD2 had a bunch of them, but not more than D2. If that leaked image of D5 is legit, the character designs at least look good. Here's to hoping their personalities are good too.
I expect the forced turnover in the team to bring tons of fresh air. It might be one of those situations where the crisis was benefical for both sides, because let's be honest, Disgaea was suffering heavily from rehash syndrome since 3.
Oh shit nigger what the fuck did you do.
>not playing the 2nd one which has a spectacular plot
>playing the 3rd one with its shit characters and repeated jokes
>skipping the fourth one that has a great main character and a bunch of cool maps
Skipping DD2 was probably wise though.
DD2 was to celebrate the first game aniversary, so making it about laharl and Etna was definitely the point. I just regret that they missed so much opportunities and especially didn't bring back so much of the D1's iconic stuff, like Mid Boss, the defender of earth, and half of the monster classes.
Some content seemed like it was only half done and they included it with placeholders instead of the original ideas, like Lanzarote (why not directly putting Asagi there? )
Which one? DD2 or Disgaea 2?
DD2 was streamlined as fuck, it made the grind so much easier and quicker thanks to Cheat Shop and it was actually pretty fun to grind.
Story and writing was shit though, Laharl was still a pissy brat and Etna's still a bitch.
Disgaea 2 had fantastic music, and a pretty good story. Gameplay's in a weird spot though.
DD2 never gave me any issues, I don't get the whole issue. I put like 100-200 hours into it as well
I found DD2 alright. It was D1 with some cool new mechanics. Laharl was a bit more of a brat than I remembered, like if there was no char. development whatsoever since D1.
No idea, I only had one glitch which was the Laharl 1 HP one. Easily solved by not going all out and sending all characters on a map until chapter 4 or 5. I have about ~120h and never encountered any other glitch.
fatlus friends please assemble
i am at around 120 reicarnations on two characters and leveling a third trap to level 300
around how much more till i can tackle the easiest possible baal fight?
i get it back to grindan sharks
I mean another appearance of female Laharl. One game is not enough. I want to be able to recruit her in Disgaea 5, like a Laharl from an alternate dimension where she was always female/chose to stay female and wants to become the OverIdol, or something stupid like that which fits in perfectly with the setting.
And I want to romance her. Fem-Laharl best Disgaea waifu
I'm surprised they haven't tried going for the waifu audience since the series has lots of girls to choose from.
pretty sure you allready got ntred by hoggmeiser
You really can't go wrong with her. Nice hips, chest, and is easy on the eyes too.
Wait what the fuck. Why would they even put that in the game in the first place if they knew it'd just get removed.
Would be nice if it were on PS4
Also I want the combo skills from 3 back.
And Magichange. Fuck monster riding.
More generics, and more customization for generics (being able to color hair and clothes separately, etc.).
In-game means of unlocking the protagonists of the previous games.
All of this is a lot more of what I want, rather than what I expect. I know they're going to keep that bullshit monster riding.
>I put like 100-200 hours
That's not much. you hardly did more than the main story without any side quest and probably not even the cave of ordeal and prinny world...
That said it's easy to break the game, just throw prinies in prinnie heavy maps with the whole prinny explosion range cheat activated. Should crash fast.
I want a new Makai kingdom.
I want an Asagi game where Asagi is too busy trying to take the series from other characters so each chapter/whatever has a different character dressing up as Asagi to fill in for her.
Just lose to his fight and you can enjoy a bad end scenario where laharl is stuck into sex slavery and mind break where each new mag cover shows how much sanity was lost, because you know, "I have no limits" is a good title for your debutante first porno
He wasn't an asspull, he was there the whole time, plotting and scheming everything just so he could make his own dream fight. Nemo on the other hand not only was an asspull but a shitty one at that. His whole goal was muh waifu is ded, better fag out so hard that God himself says fuck it and kills everything.
I don't think I lost any battles in D2, so I wouldn't know.
Yes but I want to see more of it. That and see Hoggmeiser make her his woman. I want to see Laharl go from bratty overlord to subservient housewife with several children clinging to her with more on the way.
Get fucked, I beat the story, the Cave of Ordeals, even Pringer X and later Pringer Z.
The only thing I didn't do was Overlord Baal because like fuck am I dedicating my life to it.
How the fuck does it take you that long to beat the main story to a Disgaea game?
Good thing we got 4 revisited for the vita. Basically the best of both 4 and dd2 gameplay combined. Can't fucking wait
50 hours for one enemy.
You must feel really proud of yourself for being able to do that in such a short time without any sort of training.
You've gotta be the disgayah master.
I loved her English voice.
I thought it was weird at first but man it's boner-inducing.
Nope unique voice and it's disgusting. I would have preffered they reuse his d2 voice hell even his netherbattle voice was better.
Listen to him. I think NIS just hates the guy to do this to him
>making disgaea version kenshiro sound so bad on purpose
absolutely disgusting will stick to jap voices when i get my copy of dd2
Yeah his english va is the very reason I went to jap. Stayed 100% english until then.
Adell deserves better even if the fanbase doesn't really like him
Do I do Flonne justice?
Adell was the main reason I began liking fistfighters in RPGs.
I can't believe they would do that to him.
It's like they couldn't afford another VA so they just got one of the disgusting weeb translators to do his voice.
Adell wasn't the one who got me into fist fighters in rpgs. That honor belongs to the protag of Shadow Hearts and it's sequel. Since you enjoy fist fighters you may like that game.
In anycase even the new va they got for adell's netherbattle dlc wasn't as bad as the new faggot who voices him.
This guy is much more acceptable.
4 Vita is already better than 3 vita for implementing dd2's gameplay into it
I GOT YA
Uses the same overall gameplay 4 had but with dd2 improvements. It has improvements like cheat shop, better diagonal throw deom dd2, dd2 character promotions, and stuff like that. Other than these improvements gameplay is 100% 4
Harada is still there. Or else how do you explain this?
You can't have Disgaea without Harada and whoever the composer is.
There's a first for everything. I can see D5 being the first by judging NISA's recent track record, though it's definitely not destined to happen.
>and I can't think of anything that was censored past D1. Hell I can't even think of any censoring in D1
Multiplayer in D4.
No, I saw no "blatent typos"
NISA are solid with their grammar and spelling, you're either crazy or there simply isn't many at all.
I've personally held them high in regard to their effort to make sure the scripts are fine.
>ever removing features
Is Disgaea the pokemon of srpg
Yo dude there are definitely Typos in Disgaea 2 and there's at least 1 in D2.
Disgaea 4 was pretty damned polished, though. Can't remember any in 3, and I really just can't remember ANYTHING about 3, my time playing that one is a damn blur.
>NISA are solid with their grammar and spelling
Fucking replay disgaea 3, just fucking do it and make sure you do the post game and dlc. It's all over the place especially dlc stuffs. Most notably in gig's, marjorly and prinny hero's bios and cutscenes
There's a difference between Woolsleyism and outright changing things like 4kids
Read up on it. Localizations are called localizations for a reason.
that chart is mostly innacurate since it considers gimmic related to the game setting as pure features, while it's mostly just about adapting a staying concept to the game. the number f monsters and classes as always been about retooling and never adding, and while units disapear, their role can usually be covered by something else.
the way you level up the skills or character's % also never left, they just changed how to do it from game to game, but in term of game features, it's still there.
sounds more like moderated instead of censored. You sound like those obnoxious mouthbreating loud faggots that screams at fascism whenever they get told to stop shitting up a place.
Nah, that shit was devoid of fun, they must find a way to introduce its effects in something deeper than a fucking menu.Being a mana spending shop would already be an improvement.
Don't worry anon some guy is translating it. Same guy also translated la pucelle ragnarok
I think he's feminine enough on his own.
Just needs new clothes.
There's a male Alraune NPC in Disgaea 2.
He's also best Disgaea
Disgaea threads just aren't the same without these comics
I like where this is going.
Says you, faggot.
Female Heavy Knight
I really can't choose.
Best Overlord is a tie between Zenon and Laharl.
How about some Adell
Generic ones in D4 are males as well. Hell all aluraune are probably male.
Lilim class when?
>Nis implement gender for units
>goodra2.0 all day everyday
you know this would happen. That said I wouldn't mind a male nokomata, like some sort of feral wereLion monster or something.
I think he learned alot from translating La Pucelle. He said something about how both do shit in a very similar fashion. Glad it isn't taking two years like La Pucelle did. I just wish he would do the dlc but he refuses to do so.
besttaste you've got there, anon.
I wish they would try an anime again but with Disgaea 4.
I want an anime of Disgaea 2.
And I want them to hire different artists because the Disgaea anime art was horrendous.
They're both good, but Flonne's better.
Not enough besides male healer and Alraune are traps.
So why is everyone calling that picture Disgaea 5? Is it because it looks like the first art we got for Disgaea 4?
that game suck just like ds rhapsody and Phantom Brave on wii
>he'll never be in another game again
It's the same problem as diablo3, stats are so important that you won't ever use anything that isn't boosting them. technically you can probably chose something else than a dodecahedron that will work only on your strong stats, but in practice you just use that so you can give it from character to character to ease teh ginding
What if it had
clothing destruction/battle damage
Coming in to say Female Samurai is the best generic.
Thieves are a close second.
>lewd shouldn't be in the equation
you're all inferior
Dont kid yourself
What it really means is that shit like LoC baal is going to be killed by casuals and the entire game is going act like you have 999 of every innocents active at all times
Doubt it. They probably are talking about cutting off the "japanese humor" jokes in favor of something else in english, and extending the plot beyond the same old Disgaea-style silly shit to something more serious. They don't dare change the gameplay unless people don't like it, like when they removed the useless mechanics from D3 to D4.
Considering NISA's recent fuckups in localization with the other games.. I guess it is bad. But the in-game jokes were getting overused anyway since they can't move past flatchestflatchest now.
>that one moment in D1 where Laharl and his crew commented about the enemy being too large and not appearing in the screen
>the whole deal with Jennifer
>the Tink jokes in D2
I remember almost nothing about D3 but I remember they repeated some joke the whole time and it annoyed me to hell. The only disgaea game I sped through. D4 and DD2's humor was pretty alright, nothing too forced.
It's alright, if you like the characters of Disgaea 1 enough.
All the regular VAs are present and the characters are done really well.
The story goes fucking everywhere though and makes little to no sense, very rarely and very vaguely follows the game's story.
The art is also kind of subpar.
That joke was probably Mr. "FOOD IS ENERGY" over here. Dude got old real fast after the 50th food analogy.
Never seen this class in Disgaea 3 and 4. Is it only from the earlier games or is it a DD2 thing?
It started with the sister.
Then moved on visco.
He's then parading her mutilated corpse on his back.
Probably for round two at some point,
On the note of the bad ending, what the shit was Levi? That was so out of the blue.
you need d3 save do unlock Rutile and Stella in d4
Apparently she was more powerful than Purple Peel and
got turned to stone for accidentally killing her due to a curse.
Personally, I think
Belda, Purple Peel, Damuu and Heintz should have stayed dead.
But where could the sequel go?
The knight has his freedom, Niike is dead, Metallia and Visco are both alive again and being friends/lesbians.
Everything got right sorted by the end of the game
is it just me or was factory desco the most overpowered generic unit in disgaea existence?
>it contains some ecchi
>Ecchi scenes contain Etna and Rozalin nude in a scene or 2 showing bare breast and nips
Would glady purchase.
What in the fuck
That evility is OP as shit
and that why is hard to get her
but some dd2 dlc characters evility are way more op
>haven't played 4 or D2 yet because never had a PS3
>only got to play Disgaea 3 recently through vita
>none of these sound any more overpowered than Desco having 3 Evility slots, one of which negates all damage from normal/counter attacks, and the other two can be used for taking the Majin's "Recover to full health when below 25%" evility combined with Hanako's "Never go below 1 HP if at full health" evility or Majorly having +100% damage, +99% damage, and +50% damage on single target spells
I mean seriously my Desco was level 100 when I fought the level 4000 mushroom Baal just because I had just finished up the DLC things
>he will never be useful
>he'll be lucky if he shows up again
This. I actually jacked off to their sprites when I first played the original disgaea.
I was a horny teen back then, don't judge me. Actually do, because those tits are amazing
What, no Hanako or Yukimaru? Unappreciated waifus need love too.
Disgaea 4 got them out of an economic rut, I expect Disgaea 5 to do the same. I just hope that they go a little easy on us with the DLC rape this time. My ass still hasn't recovered from D4's DLC.
I don't want to wait multiple years just to play a Disgaea game. I'd rather play it now and buy $20 or so of DLC for specific characters I like and buy the Vita version later.
>finished it like 5 times
>HP, Damage, everything are insanely high numbers for no reason
>use that weird npc who warps me into a world of an item
>die because there are like 100 stages
And a lack of best girl
The games themselves have always been getting better each release imo if you're into autistic grinding games, but D2 felt like a step back from 4
I can't help but feel like the writing is getting worse and worse each game, too
>I can't help but feel like the writing is getting worse and worse each game, too
because it is. nis is more interested in these barely connected series of events where they get to insert pop culture references and Japanese humor than telling a story. there's no balance.
it's a shame
I got back into Disgaea after D2 came out because I had the first game years ago and really like the world and the story
comparing 1 to D2 is kind of depressing, though even with shitty writing the the art and music have gotten really charming
I thought 4 was great in terms of the overall story and 3 isn't as bad as everyone says if you roll with Mao's bullshit- it's still a bit weird, but it works
I feel like all the games have an overarching "serious" plot which is ignored most of the time, but then comes in periodically to break up the jokes
D2 didn't feel like it had that. It felt like it was made to advertise Disgaea 1. None of the development from 1 stuck to the characters, and the serious story arcs are regurgitating similar development from the first game, except more sloppily and with a really uninteresting supporting cast
Like, seriously, why are half of the new characters just edited generics? It was excusable in the first game for Hoggmiser and the vampire, but here it looked really lazy here
It's just so blase and it doesn't really do anything interesting with Laharl and company. And speaking of company, no Gordon, even in postgame, was a real bummer
etna is smug because she knows she can overpower you and dominate you despite being a loli
And sexual domination is the greatest form of love
For Etna to do pic related would be as close to a confession as a smug, dominating loli like her would ever come
this is canon
the reason the Prinnies work so hard is because they want to earn Etna's favor
only her favorite servants get the privilege of being her chairs and footstools
>TFW I will never be a footstool for Etna's bare feet
>etna is smug because she knows she can overpower you and dominate you
lol no, her whole story in D1 is that she's compensating because she's so fragile inside but the demons are brutes so she out brute them to assess her authority.
Is that the same fucking VA who plays Natsu from Fairy Tail?
Did they seriously change his VA to Natsu's just because he's a fist fighter with fire?
Jesus fucking christ NISA.
I expect Flonne!
If she isn't in I'll be very disappointed, she is easily the highlight of any Disgaea she is part of the main story of.
Which is a fucking relief. That VA switch is like Domon levels of bad.
>Hating Mark Gatha
I love Tomokazu Seki, but come on.
I was talking about this.
Is there just something about hot blooded badasses that makes them cursed to get a shitty VA switch at some point?
Oh you're talking about Dynasty Warriors Gundam, yeah that guy is terrible.