So I'm re-playing Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth, and something just occured to me: Why do the Innsmouth folk NOT enter the Church of Jesus Christ?
For those that haven't played the game, but are familiar with Lovecraft Lore, basically:
>Getting chased by fishmen
>Gilled, heavily evidence pointing toward the existence of their God fishmen
>At the climax, you enter a Catholic church
>They stop chasing you, or at least bang on the door, but are clearly not wanting to go inside.
Is there a Lovecraftian reason for why this is? I mean the Innsmouth folk had evidence of their own God's existence, when there was none of the Christian God, so why did did they fear the church?
If I knew some magical being actually existed, I'd be more likely to believe in other magical beings.
So if I actually saw some asshole make infinite bread in front of me, I'd believe in the existence of Santa Claus more.
I hear this a lot, but I loved every second of the game. Fuck, most people think the game goes downhill after you get weapons, but I disagree. Despite the fact, you can't pick up weapons/ammo from enemies, I loved the shooting mechanics and story going forward..
Dat Shaggoth chase
>Is there a Lovecraftian reason for why this is
Nah, there is no force of good in the Mythos, just varying degrees of things that want to torture you, make you go insane and eat you.
Also, anyone remember that being in Lovecraft Lore that takes on the form of humans but in reality is some big fleshy mass of pure evil? It's hinted that he was likely the betrayor of Jesus, some evil egyption pharo, exc...
Sorry, I can't spell right. to lazy.
I will literally sacrifice my first born to Cthulhu if someone fucking makes a Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath game. It would just be so fucking perfect for a setting.
>taking a cat waterslide back to earth from the moon
My god I love Lovecraft.
Na, really just named that for the Cthulhu Mythos culture bit. "Shadow over Innsmouth mixed with other Lovecraft tales" doesn't seem to mix right for a title.
Also it has
Yeah that dude. Reminds me, theres a director out there that just came out with a movie, and depending on if it goes well, he will get the possible funds to make At the Mountains of Madness.
I can't recall his name, but he's a decent director with a solid portfolio, I hope it happens.
Because they know of their own god, and what he does but if even the most basic knowlage of the abrahmic god shows he murders the fuck out of everything
Basically they would be thinking "not going in there, that god might fucking rape us all to death"
It's Guillermo Del Toro that wants to do it. He did Hellboy 1 & 2 and is currently working on The Strain, a series based of a novel series he co-wrote.
The MoM movie has been in pre-production hell for years but yeah just recently it seems like it's back on track.
I like how the creator of the universe in the Mythos is Azathoth, a giant hideous thing that created the universe accidentally and then fell asleep before he could eat it. It's all powerful but also basically mindless and the universe only exists because it's gone to sleep.
Which is why in the Arkham Horror and Elder Sign games he's the only elder god that automatically ends the game if he wakes up because he immediately eats everything that has ever existed
Is that the one about the Antarctic expedition that finds an abandoned ice city once inhabited by some ugly space squids, and the tekilili whatever subway noises? With blind penguins and a sunless sea?
On that note, Sunless Sea the game is unrelated.
Guillermo del Toro was going to make an AtMoM movie but canceled it after a while of development (or whatever the equivalent for movies is) hell because he said it would have been too similar to Prometheus somehow. I have no idea how that would have happened.
I know likely that "It's Lovecraft I ain't gotta explain shit", but is it ever elaborated as to how pic related actually...functions? Like is he in the center of the earth as described in one story, or is he on some space rock acting as a puppeteer for a form on earth?
I just can't figure out how even if he morphed himself into a man, how could the fucking mass of flesh not be seen.
Man, seriously. Can you imagine what cultists of the other gods think of the Abrahamic God?
"Yeah, like our god is literally a monster but at least he's not a fucking psychopath holy shit have you seen this?"
Yeah It's Del Toro, it was very recent that he said he want's to do it again.
Also, have you played Sunless Sea? I was thinking of picking it up, but I can't tell if the early access nonsense is worth it. I've watched a few video play throughs and it seems quite complete for what it is.
Combat is a turn off though.
Just read Hellboy/B.P.R.D. the Del Toro movie is not happening
Yeah it's this, we're all literally just his dream and there's a piper creature that plays a tune in the chaos space forever to make sure he stays asleep because when he wakes up everything stops.
YA'LL NIGGAS READ THAT "THE HORROR THAT CAME TO GOTHAM" BATMAN SERIES?
THAT SHIT WAS LOVECRAFT TO THE CORE.
Highly reccomended, I'd dump it if I had it. It's incredibly well done, and it ends with a great Lovecraft ending. It's basically steampunk Batman, but with Lovecraft monsters and science.
Ivy isn't even a women, she's like a parasite.
He could just be really, really dense. Or magic. Or it's a quirk of being in a higher dimension of ours so the mass we see is only a fraction of that which actually exists and can appear to be in different places when it's actually all part of the same organism
Also those guys rocking out on the double flutes are the best
I haven't read through Lovecraft's stuff in years, but I don't think it is expanded upon too heavily. I remember it manifesting as different human avatars, but I can't remember anything else. A lot of times the gods created by Lovecraft had pretty vague details until other people wrote about them years later.
Well a few people are saying that Del Toro just said it's in production again.
I haven't read much Lovecraft recently but does Dagon really ever do anything? Most of Lovecraft's gods just seem kind of complacent and all the fear comes from stuff they MIGHT do. Even Cthulhu in his story didn't do much besides scare a bunch of people to death.
I haven't actually played Sunless Sea, but a friend did and the stuff I fed him about At the Mountains of Madness apparently had nothing to do with it.
It's a shame. I would totally play Lovecraft games, but I guess trying to manifest a horror from his writing into a finite game object would really weaken its impact.
The Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath.
I don't remember the specifics, but Nodens helps out Carter a little bit. Not because he cares about Carter at all, but because he wanted to piss of Nyarlathotep.
You niggas should all read The Dunwich Horror.
Lovecraft's body horror parody of the holy trinity gets defeated by arcane knowledge and SCIENCE
Pic related is best Lovecraft game despite its archaic/clumsy gameplay mechanics. The Lovecraft museum bonus is a treat, should get an AGS remake/expansion.
As much as I like Lovecraft, some of his climaxes were pretty shitty.
>confronted with aeon old monstrosity from the deep that drives people to insanity
>ram it with a fuckin' boat
Yeah, it's not based on Lovecrafts work, but it is without a doubt Lovecraftian. The playthroughs show numerous horrors, terrifying cruel Gods, shadowy figures, dreamscapes.
The game appears to rely heavily off of it's writing, which is does very well. It's like that Expedition: Conquistidor game, but with Lovecraft and sailing.
>Well a few people are saying that Del Toro just said it's in production again.
I read an interview of his where he said he's hopeful that it will be happening soon, with production company he made Pacific Rim with.
A lot of the gods are pretty placid and they are just so horrific most people go insane.
Most of the cultists are just guys who remained somewhat intact mentally and asked to learn magic. To which some of the gods shrugged and said 'sure'.
Then again it's likely more due to the fact mundane shit going on on earth is beneath them in terms of giving a shit while they play at a cosmic scale.
Okay guys, guys lemme pitch something to you okay?
A mobile game based on The Music of Erich Zann.
You hold up your phone and sit by a window strumming the shit out of it all night and if you don't cosic horror bursts into your room and fucks you dead.
maybe its just compressing itself like in [prototype] into a really dense hard organic thing. so its like rock-heavy bone just under the skin, but then it can swell up again into a huge squishy mass of flesh
or if were going more wierd with it, maybe its just shifting all that extra mass into another dimension, leaving behind a man shaped limb in this dimension
>As a hunter, he will chase down evil creatures in the Dreamlands, such as the Shantaks. He prefers to hunt the servants of the Great Old Ones or Nyarlathotep because they are usually the most intelligent and offer the best sport, but not necessarily because he wants to help humans being attacked by them. He has, however, been known to deliberately help humans, such as when he offers advice to assist Randolph Carter against Nyarlathotep in The Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath: "Out of the void S'ngac the violet gas had pointed the way, and archaic Nodens was bellowing his guidance from unhinted deeps," later followed by "And hoary Nodens raised a howl of triumph when Nyarlathotep, close on his quarry, stopped baffled by a glare that seared his formless hunting-horrors to grey dust."
Dis nigga is an OG.
In all of the Cthulhu mythos, this pissed me off the most.
>Cthulhu made out to be a terrible being that would bring the destruction of earth
>Cthulhu is ready to roll, does his morning stretches
>Boat rams him in head
>Back to sleep forever
Seriously nigger? All that tells me is that technology in the 1910's was good enough to take out Cthulhu if him and his fishmen decided to actually attack humanity.
>playing Mansion of Madness
>player occidentally opens a refrigerator
>it's a portal to another dimension
>nameless horrors emerge from the refrigerator
>be eldritch horror
>literally just wake up
>nom on some fuckers
>two niggas get on a boat
>not even completely out of the door
>get's cracked in the dome with a steam boat
>island goes back down under the waves
>time to wait another billion years
This reminds me of a fan theory a friend and I came up with for the Wizards in LotR.
Like how most shit in Lovecraft is described in the kind of "flatlander" terminology. We only see the 3D slice of that creature that corresponds to and exists in the dimensions we inhabit.
So since the Wizards in LotR are Maiar they exist in other dimenions as well.
So when Christopher Lee and Ian McKellan are having their wizard fight and it's all invisible "magic" going on what we imagine is they're essentially just straight up punching the shit out of eachother with their extra-dimensional selves. Just fucking beating the hell out of eachother with 6th dimensional brain fists.
>that feel when there will never be a Arkham Horror online room based game.
I wouldn't even care if it was turn based or like a board game. I'm just tired of not having a dice and paper crew to Cthulhu game with.
I always got the impression that whatever the boat rammed was incorporeal and a minor representation of what would one day rise.
In a later mythos story written after Lovecraft's death, even nuking it does little harm, it just ensures it comes back radioactive.
Damn it. Just when there's a Call of Cthulhu thread on /v/ I miss it.
I didn't expect this fight to be as cool as it was.
The game did one thing right, the protagonists insane voice work.
The insane mechanic was great, and the voice actor was superb when he had to say insane shit like he was losing his mind. Like when he's in the sewers for the first time.
>Th-theres...something down here.
>I JUST LET HER DIE (screaming in his head)
>Why did I even come here....
Then that part when he see's Dagon for the first time:
>Oh God Oh God please no...
It also has these guys in it.
I don't remember Elder Things being in the game
You must be thinking of the Great Race
Now that I think about it, how good is Hellboy right now, I left it after that giant dragon killed him or some shit
No. Don't reward Bethesda for the shit they pulled with its developer. Hell, there wouldn't even be a PC port if they'd have had their way. One of the rare occurrences where it's more ethical to pirate it.
>There will never be a Delta Green game
DCOTE is one of my favorite games of all time. It is hands down one of the most ambitious survival horror titles.
That being said, it is also a game I would never recommend anyone buy. The devs are gone so only Bethesda can benefit from its sales, and the game is a buggy broken mess on modern machines. Not joking, literally game-breaking bugs that make it pretty much impossible to finish the game.
Delta green is a dice and paper RPG based around the idea of a Black Op's Unit that fights Lovecraftian horrors.
Pic related explains better.
It's sort of an expansion on the standard CoC tabletop RPG. Basically, people dealing with the threat of the Mythos in modern times.
mountains of madness is good, dunwich horror is alright.
The scene that stuck with me most of all the lovecraft books though, I can't even remember which book it come from. Dude breaks into an old cult hideout and finds the ghouls they made still in their pits and mulls on how they are perpetually starving and trying to climb out.
>tfw we almost got a Delta Green X-Com clone...
That's a terrible suggestion
You could always start with Call of Cthulhu, that's a good one
But I'd recommend Whisperer in the Darkness, the Dunwich Horror, or Shadow Out of Time
>always get the true ending
How about instead, you actually play through on Cthulhu Mythos difficulty, and stop expecting it given to you? The only reason to ever use DCOTEPatch is to disable the blue light special, otherwise, it's just cheating.
Cthulhu Mythos difficulty is only unlocked after you play through the game on another difficulty, and even then, you have to get an A rank which requires the most autistic of things.
It's a great game, but you're only hurting yourself.
Here, have Lovecraft's own rendition.
Do you think those can entertain an 8 year girl? I remembered how much fun I had with DnD with my friends, and I thought my lil sis might like it.
The thing is, I'm seriously concerned on the lack of imagination of the kids right now, that, and because her aunt bought her a fucking tablet, so she's used to lend her attention for no more than 5 minutes to a single thing
What's wrong with Call of Cthulhu? It isn't scary or anything but it's short, sweet, and sufficiently weird
>How about instead, you actually play through on Cthulhu Mythos difficulty, and stop expecting it given to you?
Because the ending doesn't have anything to do with difficulty level. Only completion%, number of saves and time taken to complete the game matter.
Depends, many of them base mechanics around the setting, the hero system would probably work alright since it's built around letting you make anything.
Then it's more about holding her attention through the mechanical portions and selling the game based on what she likes.
I have the same problem, all I've gotten her to play is minecraft and a bit of don't starve.
>console gaming exploded because of the Xbox and Halo
This is what children believe. Console gaming was always the greater market (size, not quality), and this was no different back then. In the 1990s, PC gaming was there, but it didn't have the push that Nintendo and Sega had.
Halo didn't make gaming mainstream, but it did garner a lot of supporters from dudebros who only recognized video games as an acceptable medium because their lack of imagination and lack of soft skills was no longer a barrier. Put a disc in the Xbox and play.
A cosmic multidimensional alien horror dreams of a miniscule spec of dust on which apes reside and sit on chairs while staring at a lightbulb, sending insults to one another using a vast network of cables beneath the earth.
>and selling the game based on what she likes.
Poniesseriously, I need to look what she might like the best, at least she loves to see me playing F-Zero GX and has developed a liking for Ghost Trick so far, but that's the best I've done.
I want her to play a tabletop game because those are great to give a kid ways to play with her imagination
You missed serious fun
It's just so thoroughly mediocre compared to his better work such as The Music of Erich Zann or The Shadow over Innsmouth. I just don't see why people recommend it as an entry point, other than because of its catchy title and the role playing tie in.
>that sounds pretty fuckin /b/ to me
No, it would be /b/ if he killed Cthulhu with his lazor, or tricked Cthulhu into sending him pictures of his eldritch dick before reporting him to authorities
There needs to be more games with freaky lovecraftian monsters. Particualrly with the mind fucking. Played Secret world recently and now I hunger for more. Maybe I should play Eternal Darkness again.
Just a reminder that much like his contemporaries Lovecraft was an unabashed racist. A lot of his stories deal with the degenerative effects of race mixing. The fish-folk in shadow over innsmouth were whites who mixed with niggers. In the Arthur Jermyn story he writes about a family whose ancestor was albino ape from Africa and gradually the family became more nigger like. The story Rats in The Walls has a cat that is literally called Nigger Man
Am I the only one who figured out that you could lean through slide-locked doors and unlock them?
Shit just let you through areas you weren't supposed to get through yet.
So I played this years ago and got to the hotel chase scene and panicked so hard I never played it again
>Implying it isn't.
Lovecraft wouldn't have wanted only his own works to be taken as gospel. The whole point of the mythos was that he wasn't the only one contributing to it.
Derleth can go fuck himself though.
I wasn't, just going on a tangent.
Nothing to do with Jebus. Hell, read The Haunter of the Dark or The Shadow over Innsmouth, cultist love churches, amongst other things.