Disgaea 5 soon, anons.
What do you expect?
Any mechanics or story elements you'd like to see in this one?
Think NISA will censor it?
You can go for it anyway, then start boycotting NISA.
You can put up with scalpers and their price gouging once the LE goes out of stock.
Or you can accept that boycotting NISA means you can't get everything.
ps2=D1 and D2
ps3=D3 and D4
Walnut, Croix, and Captain Homard.
I don't think so either, but we'll see.
I do remember NIS mentioning that it's tradition for all of their main characters to wear red so whoever that is may just be a sidekick anyway
Reminder that all the Disgaea talent quit NIS to go work for CH on Makai Shin Trillion.
D2 was kind underwhelming. Sure, Cheat Shop was amazing and they made a lot of things less frustrating to do, but the lack of a Dark World was pretty shit. And having to do something for reaching the Land of Carnage was... well, something to do. No, Disgaea D2 turns int oa mindless grind as soon as you beat Xehanort. Nothing to do, just grind your characters and your items.
Also, as of now the japanese aren't too fond of the PS4 because it doesn't have enough games to get their attention. NIS isn't a biggie, so they aren't likely to focus on a system like that, at least for now.
reminder that they've abandoned 2d sprites for chibi shit
The 2 main characters are a Vampire who loves sardines and his Servant werewolf who is incredibly loyal to him
and possibly fay for him.then again the loyalty could be a dog joke.
There's not really a story, there's just kind of this weird, vaguely linked together series of one off stories that doesn't really add up to anything. Also, what is there isn't very good or interesting.
Still not as bad as the Disgaea 3 Vita post game shit though.
I have NOTHING against gays I even had a gay friend once, but I really honestly think gay characters are just a cop-out for actually interesting characters.
>hmmmm we COULD make a interesting character but let's instead just make him gay and call it a day.
Compile Heart games are fucking terrible though, I'll look into it however.
>Liking that horrendous bullshit
Pretty sure if you think having any character be gay is a "cop-out" it means you don't like gay people.
Yeah, still get it, just know that as bland as Disgaea 3's main story can get at the worst, it's going to get a hell of a lot worse.
It's going to be CH's first good game, if they manage to fuck it up with the entire Disgaea team
(minus Harada)then there's no hope.
For people who think that person on the poster is Laharl. It is not. The only similarities are hair color and the scarf.
The eye color is different.
Laharl's hair antennas are missing, that is one of his trademarks.
And the scarf is normally giving to the main character, AKA Ashe from Phantom Brave has a red scarf.
Also, Etna is missing. Laharl isn't Laharl without Etna, and she's pretty much the character that NIS loves to shove in your mouth along with Asagi and Flonne
>no soul nomad HD
>no new marl kingdom game
>The Witch and the Hundred Knight isn't patched yet
The last thread suggested this was a prequel starring Krichevskoy, which is something I had no idea I wanted until just now.
Though this likely isn't the case seeing as Krichevskoy has antenna as well.
Pretty much the only thing I look forward to with NIS nowadays.
As much as I'd like to, I wont be getting this. I bought Disgaea D2 for ps3, and it fucking crashes! Even better: they know that it's an issue, and they don't have any plans to fix it. Why in the fuck does NIS think that this is okay?
>Krichevskoy isn't playable, even when he was fully developed as a Disgaea 4 DLC character
>postgame is literally beat boss and grind until you can fight the next boss
>that insane gap between Pronger Z and Tyrant Baal
>Xenolith isn't playable at all even though he has a fully functional humanoid form
>Pleinair has a unique evility and base stats but isn't playable, even in DLC form
Everyone wants to impregnate Etna
>liking disgusting cowtits
I don't want the child to starve to death.
She'll just feed them with
Censored or not I won't buy it. I don't support Nisa.
I just realized the copyright is a year ahead. Does that mean anything...?
3 is randumb
4 has Fuka dragging everyone else down by being a stubborn fuck
D2 is a bunch of weird ideas that likely won't go anywhere but at least they made an attempt to fix the mechanics
Something about 5's cast reminds me of the tone present in NIS' PS2 games, but looks can be deceiving
Considering how few of NIS' games had good stories it's the most likely scenario
What really matters is how insufferable the cast is, something we won't know about until we get more info at TGS
>Disgaea has been too lolsorandum lately.
>I still haven't played 4
Oh god, D4 is by far the most lolsorandum of them all, the story is a complete mess and the characters (aside from the MC) are just walking Catchphrases.
The three first Disgaea games at least have some character development and hidden between all the innuendos and shit there is some actual story to follow, Disgaea 4 story is ridicolously awful.
I like the actual story of D4, with Valvatorez and Artina, as well as the big bad, but the other characters were pretty terrible and got completely neglected in favor of NINETY NINE FUCKING AXEL STORIES AND A SHITLOAD OF PADDING
I felt Valz and Artina had 0 chemistry besides the flashbacks, when they meet again it goes like this.
>"That woman cannot possibly be Artina"
>"But I am"
>"Guess I like you again"
The amount of asspull was beyond my suspension of disbelief was willing to take me and I have beaten most NIS games. Things like angel blood suddenly curing the virus but Artina wouldn't say shit because retarded reasons. Then there is the thing at the moon and suddenly giant robots. and those are just examples.
Also the big bad was nice when it was Emizel's father, you could feel some sort of connection with Valz, but then came Nemo and then The source of all evil and then God, it was gong form bad to worse.
>Taking the Disgaea plot serious
Come on guys, it's just a parody of anime tropes.
I kind of wish NIS would make more Tactic games that were more strategy than grinding. I doubt Disgaea will ever break out of the whole "Big Honking Number! So Crazy!" gimmick, but it definitely has a very fleshed out class system. I always felt it was a bit underutilized, but the cheat shop could solve a lot of the imbalance issues by adding options to limit grinding and stat/equipment abuse. Though, that would require a lot of damage formula changes, so that's highly unlikely.
Also, less story/unique units. It's almost as bad as FFT as far as the Unique:Generic ratio goes, but at least the story characters still have to abide by the class system.
>It adds almost nothing to the game
make the game more easy
This looks a little angsty.
I'm guessing it will have a strong romance subplot, because that's been popular. And I'm guessing it won't be as good as Disgaea 4--how many years did it take us to get another good game after D1, again? 8?
Harada's an outside contractor and still does work for NIS. There's no reason they still can't get Sato for D5. That said I never particular cared his music up till Hundred Knight where it Atelier Ayesha tier atmosphere-wise.
I don't agree that that was good. At all. Rozalin was hot, and that's pretty much all that romance story had going for it.
Disgaea 4's romantic subplot wasn't great, either, but it was worlds better than the unoriginal tsundere bullshit 2 had going on.
>that's pretty much all the romance the story had going for it
Hey now, when the game started, Rozalin was this evil, backstabbing she-devil. Over the course of the game she falls in love with Adell and his family, and is all like "fuck it, you can't kill this guy," and then she actually starts caring about his well-being.
Don't get me wrong, it's cliche, but it was still there.
> What do you expect?
I'm expecting the same shitty animations they've been using since fucking Disgaea 2.
I'm calling it now, there will be gun moves where the character has their legs extended in that retarded "sitting" pose, and there will be sword/axe/lance moves with the character doing a fucking uppercut with a weapon at the end of it.
I can finally see Kunoichi's
eyesin 3D if the 3D sprite rumor is true.
The guard assists made it all worth it for me, it was fun being able to use heavy knights for once
Hiyama really sells Axel for me, makes him really entertaining.
Dub Axel is a crime to his character.
>Say he was ok on DHD
>Lol didn't play Axel mode
It's like you're trying your best to look dumb, He was ok there because you can root for him. On Disgaea 4 he is a unlikeable coward with no one else in mind but him.
hopefully fresh ideas and a complete rework of the super slow graphic engine (seriously, 100 cubes and 20 2D sprites shouldn't put a console on its knees when trying to use a 9*9 spell.
Keeping the good ideas of DD2 (like streamlining the grinding) but also adding challenge that isn't just "lol the boss is max stats".
spreading the gear evolution so you don't get 80% of the items from level 1 to 100, then the rest unlocks at the same time when you unlock land of carnage, it's a pain to finish the collection because of this.
Make monster class interesting again, like, on their own and not by becoming "power ups for human classes".
A story that stop following the same pattern ad Disgaea1 would be nice.
kinda expected for a fresh new studio, the spritework for a disgaea game is horribly time consuming, since you have to draw each character in 4 angles doing each emotion loop and you have to cover all the position/emotion of the game because in Disgaea most move are generic and thus you need to be able to run the animation on anybody.
In 3D, you just literally create a collection of models with roughtly the same proportions, then work on one bones and apply it automatically to everybody. What takes months in 2D can take a week top in 3D
>The eye color is different.
but the lineart is the same, the whole character looks like DA got its hands on female Laharl and just used fill bucket and eraser on it until it's donutSteel enough
I can't wait for them to recycle DLC and just plain existing characters from the previous game as DLC.
Adell+Rozalin or Asagi as first DLC is guaranteed
>I always felt it was a bit underutilized, but the cheat shop could solve a lot of the imbalance issues by adding options to limit grinding and stat/equipment abuse.
That's literally what the point of the cheat shop is. Did you even use it or understand it?
Looking foward to this cutie.
I also hope they stop doing lelsofanny jokes/references for attacks
I mean, for a few of them? sure. But high level attacks should look badass, not look like a fucking joke.
>get Mao in 4
>all of his attacks are shitty mad scientist references and look like shit
Plus i'm tired of these anime/manga references with spells (and the fact that they stopped doing fully animated Tera spells
They really phone it in for some unique attacks
>hating fun and wanting more "badass" edgy bullshit
protip : stop playing disgaea, you clearly only jumped there to be part of a "cool fandom" that isn't what you want it to be.
I've been playing disgaea from the start numpnuts.
I'm okay with jokey funny attacks but I don't want this shit entirely saturating the game.
Look at Disgaea 1. Was there a lot of jokey shit? no. Instead you just have completely over the top attacks. And the higher tier you get, the crazier they get.
I think he meant "steal" as in they're stealing money from you.
I was sorely disappointed with the generic roster in DD2. I get removing some D4 monsters from the roster, as they would likely require new abilities / mount mechanics, but why would they get rid of humanoids when they basically just required some stat tweaking? Was their dev cycle so frantic they had no time to do that?
>Dozens of threads complaining about weeb games.
>Dozens of threads complaining about NISA
>Dozens of threads complaining about graphics
>Dozens of threads using the game as reference for more weeb games coming even thought they actually didn't buy it.
>Dozens of threads complaining about how difficult post game content is.
>Dozens of threads of people who didn't buy the game but immediately start laughing that one console exclusive is not anymore.
It would be a worst case scenario
>DS port was an abomination.
I don't see why people still say that, the Ds port only cuts sound.
also the 3D can handle even DD2, all they need is fucking learn to code, because a PS3 should never, ever have fps spikes when dealing with a game made out of cubes, with a handful of sprite, with a game play that isn't even real time, just because a "boat" the size of a pillow appeared on screen. or because someone is trying to aim a spell.
There's a seriously wrong bottleneck in their engine, as a programmer I would be in deep shit to present such a poorly working product.
>Was their dev cycle so frantic they had no time to do that?
I don't think it's about dev cycle, I think it's about horrible hard coded spaghetti code they can't change as well as they wish in some part.
There were a lot of jokes, in the dialog.
In the attacks?
Try and name any jokey reference attacks.
spoiler: you can't.
All weapon attacks are badass moves that got crazier.
All unique attacks are also crazy moves.
All monster skills are relevant.
No spells are fucking anime references.
Later on in the series we get attacks that are pop culture references, or (forgive the tv tropes term), 'flanderize' the character or just plain turn the attack into a joke.
Mao's attacks all became shitty mad science moves.
Demon Priere's orginal Requiem Aeternam was a direct and normal reference to the purification from La Pucelle.
Then in disgaea 4, they make it jokey shit where she stupidly chases the enemies around in a circle before SURPRISE IT WAS MY PLAN ALL ALONG
>Tfw we'll never get a sequel to ZHP unlosing ranger
Also, I've never played Disgaea before, I was planning on getting into the series after I played ZHP but sadly my ps3 broke.
I do have a Vita but it seems like there are only two disgaea games for it, 3 and 4.
Does it matter where you start the series?
Because I wouldn't mind getting 3 but I think I may regret it by not playing the others.
raed all the vassals dialogs at the beginning of each arc, read all the inter chapter etna commentaries, Read anything with midboss in it.
Kirtchevskoy died eating a donut (retconned later, though), Vulcanus finds porn mags, and so on.
You have a few serious chapters like red moon, but the whole game is about juvenile jokes and tsukomi. the whole defender of Earth themselves are a parody on their own, which make the complaints about guest artist fucking retarded. It's like you just speed runned the game to claim yourself a "fan".
They're all mostly self contained stories but the post-game tends to be almost entirely concerned with characters from previous N1 games
For example you'll probably encounter this bitch who has the running joke of trying to be the main character of a videogame (she was apparently supposed to star in "Makai Wars" which never happened).
Part of the joke is that she tends to not get memos (her Disgaea 2 sprites are her smaller Makai Kingdom sprites, and her initial Disgaea 4 sprites are low-res regardless of setting), and her voice actor and personality change with each game.
Though I think they're currently stuck on snobbish old lady voice.
I don't know what they changed for the vita version, but unless it's significant you're going to regret getting 3.
Sure monster units are super over powered during the story missions, but it has the longest animations in the series, you get babysat by Beryl through a good chunk of the story and the way you get new skills is really tedious.
pretty hard. The game gives you 999 lives for a reason.
The game starts out simply enough but has increasingly harder difficulty. Basically you can pick whatever path you want, with each level having a different version of higher difficulty as you continue.
The final boss of 1 basically requires you to use a button mashing trick if you want to beat him before time runs out though.
Sounds like the Evangelion fanbase.
They pretend the show didn't have tons of comedy or needless fanservice.
Oh yeah, I forgot about the jumps.
Basically Prinny will always jump an exact distance which you normally cannot adjust (as in, holding back in the jump will not shorten it)
If you want to clear a short jump, you have to use the ground pound to cut short.
You'll be using the ground pound a lot regardless.
>In the attacks?
>Try and name any jokey reference attacks.
>spoiler: you can't.
Etna's sexy beam
Thurday's "arigato roboto"
The whole super sentai enemi's moves
Punch attacks have suspicious names too like "big bang"
It's really not hard to see. they might have a bigger OC vs reference ratio than the newer games but it's there. And Flonezilla was there since D2 so it's not a "a bloblobloo d4 ruined everything" situation.
Is there a disgaea skill more based than big bang?
Fist weapons the best
You just have to learn how to button mash a certain way.
such as rubbing your finger back and forth off the button really quickly, or tensing up your entire arm so it shakes and using your finger to tap the button quickly.
depends on which version.
it was lame in Disgaea 1 (lel push this thing into the sun)
It was awesome in Disgaea 2 (I punched you so fucking hard that I made a black hole)
I don't exactly remember what was after that. I think it was just some shitty okay I'm going to the moon and punching it so moon pieces hit you
>NIS fighting game.
>tfw Disgaea 2 had the best set of fist skills
>Adell in Disgaea 4 has a unique skill that combines a good number of those skills into one
>Tiger Charge into King of Beasts into Rising Dragon
IM NOT DEAD
GUYS IM NOT DEAD IM NOT DEAD IM NOT DEAD IM NOT DEAD THIS IS A DREAM THIS IS A DREAM THIS IS A DREAM THIS IS A DREAM IM NOT DEAD IM NOT DEAD
I know I'm deadIM NOT DEAD IM NOT DEAD IM NOT DEAD
you tell me
>Ally units (including self) recover 2% HP per panel they move.
I believe he means the way that games and, to a seemingly lesser extent, other media are currently portraying gay people. It's gotten to the point where I think that being gay is now a trend and we have all these Gaia tier faggots who are like "YEAH I LIKE COCKS BIG DEAL XD" and so that's how they're written. As their gayness being a defining character trait, when it should be a back seat thing unless you're going for fanfiction tier writing.
>>Ally units (including self) recover 2% HP per panel they move.
I guess you can abuse it by cancelling the move and walking again, right? Seems more like a baffling oversight than something actually broken, since most usnig will not have that much move to begin with, and disgaea is a game were you tend to be full life->death anyway
Honestly that 2% HP recover isn't even that big of a deal since end-game Disgaea is all about one hit kills.
You kill everything in one hit and superbosses will kill you in one hit
>Not realizing every character is a cliche
>Not realizing that the only bit of character notlaharls had was that cliche, and there was nothing else driving the character
Even Laharl barely had any character in Disgaea 1, and they demolished that when they brought him back in the other games.
>Even Laharl barely had any character in Disgaea 1
That kind of was the point of hte story, though, he starts shit, but chapter after chapter he slightly grow up to become a competent overlord.
they they just made him a hatable brat in any other game.
Does it matter?
They won't stop him anyway.
He was the least shit of the other Disgaea protogs.
At least this MC isn't 4 years old like Laharl and mao. That's a plus.
I think valvatores is more defined with "muh promises" than "muh sardine" as far as character goes. the sardine jsut stick because of the poor voice range of the game for each characters.