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Daily reminder.
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>maxresdefault

yeah, when you cut a picture from a youtube video, it's going to look like shit.
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What a fun boss concept

Better than another big guy with a sword at least
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>there are people that ACTUALLY think the DLC will be good
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>>253966103
Holy shit did b-team seriously take three NPCs, slap on boss healthbars and call it a day?

Please tell me there's more to that picture.
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>>253966103
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>>253966103
Meh. I bought the season pass and can't care less. As long as I get more areas to fight I will be fine.
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>>253966103
Dammit From, I play pve to NOT deal with Havel wearing faggots.
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>>253966320
I got it from a thread yesterday. The DLC leaked so there's been a lot of screens posted on /dsg/. Here's 2 NPC summons using entirely equipment that was already in the game.
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>>253966320
Nope

and one of them is literally just Havel
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And here we have what appears to be a nashandra reskin, now with light instead of dark
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>>253966320
>b-team
>a-team
I love how /v/ brainwashed itself with that idea so they can excuse From for shitting the bed with DaS2.
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>implying I wont pirate the dlc
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>>253967080
I'm not excusing anyone. I don't have faith in FromSoft anymore after the Dark Souls 2 blunder and will probably never play another game from them.

I'm merely using the term b-team to make fun of the shitty people at From who were a part of DaS II's creation.
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>>253966959
Ahahahahahaha holy shit.
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>>253966959
She uses Fire and Dark spells, and summons skellies

She also summons Velstadt for some fucking reason
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>tfw how long it took me to figure out which rat to hit

I was looking for a crown on their head or something. Took a few runs to notice that mowhawk.
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>>253967251
Why now? Why not when Armored Core 4 or Another Century Episode R were released?
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>>253967251
Dark Souls 2 wasn't even that bad dude. I liked it alot more than Dark Souls.

Played all 3 and beat all 3.
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>>253967481
Because more people played DaS2?
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>>253967481
Because FromSoft was more known after DeS and DaS. I bet that only a small minority on /v/ has played AC.

>>253967525
I'm genuinly interested to hear why you thought that Dark Souls II was fun, especially since you beat the first one.
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>>253966103
>not even giving them new armor

Based B-team, just rehash that havels armor.
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>>253967525
I liked it too. Even when the level design was weaker compared to the first game I'm enjoying it immensely.
Currently halfway through NG+ with my cestus character.
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>>253967693
To be fair the entirety of Dark Souls fanbase loves that armor. Dark Souls 1 and 2 players wear nothing but that armor.
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>>253966103
>fighting another one of havels minions

Well we ever see the true Rock?
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>>253967080
Don't be retarded. From has multiple dev teams and you can see it quite clearly in the credits that people were being swapped in and out.
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>>253967525
This is /v/, it's either the perfect game or it's completely bad. [gratuitousspoilertag]And it's probably the latter.[/gratuitousspoilertag]

I definitely feel like Dark Souls II wasn't as fun as Dark Souls, but it was still a pretty good game.
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>>253967906
Fuck off, plenty of people hate havels.
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Dark souls is not very good game
Pardon bad English
You are bad human
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>>253967668
Outside the souls games the only From Software titles I've played has been Ninja Blade and the A.C.E games.
Ninja Blade was pure shit. The A.C.E games were fun like a motherfucker.
2>3>1>shit>Portable>R
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>>253966959
BRAVO B TEAM

But seriously holy fuck. I was disappointed enough with DaS2 that I wasn't even going to bother the the DLC. I expected it to be a step down from the god-tier PTD content, but jesus christ this takes the cake.

This is mod tier.
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>>253967481
I enjoyed ACE R, but pretty much for the sole reason that I got to fly around as the based Turn A.
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>>253967972
I will laugh like mad when Bloodborne's credits roll and the names are basically the same as the ones in DSII's credits.
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>people now just realizing From never made good games consistently
From has always been like this they either make games ranging from fun to mediocre or to downright terrible.
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>>253968005
DaS2 is still a great game by normal standards - has a lengthy and solid single player experience and blah blah blah. But by souls standards it pales in comparison to its predecessors.

I never ever grew tired of playing DaS1 and DeS. That's whether focusing on PVE or PVP. But with DaS2 I beat the game and by the time I started NG+ I was already burnt out - haven't touched it in months. It doesn't have that same spark. Not to sound melodramatic, but it's just not the phenomenon that Dark Souls was. It's the typical game that you play once and then move on, whereas the others could be enjoyed for pretty much forever.
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I HOPE WE GET THE BARREL
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>>253967525

I liked 2 better too. Improved the game in a million ways. Imagine if 2 came out before 1 and 1 was the sequel and we lost dual wielding, re spec options and limitations on healing etc? There would be a fucking riot. We'd be having daily threads about how poise reduces all pvp to bs fishing and how fucking unfinished the 2nd half of the game is once you get to Anor Londo.
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>>253966103
>>253966959
>People here actually paid for the season pass for this shit
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Remember DS1 dlc? Good times.
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>>253968529
They're souls babbies. They don't know about King's Field, Armored Core, Echo Night or that piece of shit Eternal Ring.
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>>253968840
Are you retarded? Those people hacked themselves into the DLC.
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ETERNAL REMINDER

B-team strikes again:
>literally just 3 NPCs with big healthbars
>reskinned Nashandra summoning reskinned Velstadt (yes, really)
>reskinned Kalameet

BRAVO FROM
R
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F
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>>253966103
>>253966959
This can't be real. Holy shit!
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>>253968985
I'm talking about people in general who have bought the season pass for it faggot

This is exactly the problem with them
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>>253966959

I thought /v/ was overreacting but holy shit this is awful.
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>/v/ hates everything Dark Souls 2 related by default because of a graphical reduction

Didn't know you turds were such graphics whores.
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>>253969125
Then don't quote the wrong people asshole.
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>>253968396
Not likely, since the brains behind the other games started work on BB right after artorias of the abyss. It's like how pokemon games are developed and it's why some games don't have features that others had (for instance, toggle run shoes and walking pokemon in HG/SS not being present in B&W)

That said, I am not going to be an idiot and get as hype for bloodborne as I did for DaS2. I'm not going to assume DaS2 was a fluke. After all, we were assured that Miyazaki himself was overseeing the project and making sure it was up to snuff, and clearly that didn't help.
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>>253969254
What you gonna do about it nigga?
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>>253966103
>mfw
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>>253969210
Where have you been? The only thing this and the last gen gamers have ever cared about is graphics.
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>>253969210
No you moron, it's hated because the gameplay is a downgrade from previous games.
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>>253969027
Don't forget that they literally placed their reskinned Kalameet in a tiny enclosed space as a means to justify it flying very little and not being very mobile while you fight it, instead of just being lazy assholes like they were with the Ancient Dragon.
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>>253969482

It's literally exactly the same.
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>>253969482
But it's improved
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>>253969210
>muh pcmaster!
>not graphics whores
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>>253969482
The gameplay is an upgrade (power instance is the shit); the level design and enemies the ones sucking a thousand dicks.
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>>253969548
Not true, it's actually a lot faster and tigher. Heck they even added stats for tanking/dodging.

'Course /v/ just uses this as a reason to bitch.
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>>253967080
>He thinks separate teams don't exist

I love how buttblasted flamers get when they're told.

Bamco told A-team to sit this one out. They were not allowed to be part of the active development, just advisory.

That's why Bloodbourne exists. Because Bamco told A-team to fuck off and let them milk the franchise.
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>>253969679
this this this. I liked the gameplay a hell of a lot more so I was pretty excited when I started the game, but everything in the game felt boring and uninspired.
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>>253966103
I think I would've been more interested if it was 3 existing NPCs, at least in the "how did they get there?" kind of way.

>Masterless Glencour
>Pilgrim Bellclaire
>Black Iron Tarkus
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Royal Rat Vanguard is the easiest fucking boss. I beat that faggot right after Pursuer, and I only used a dagger. Everything in Dark Souls 2 is either easy as fuck or broken as fuck. Shitty game. Dark Souls 1 is much better.
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I don't get why everyone is so mad about dark souls 2. The quality of From software's games always is always very irregular, varying from one title to the other.


Are we getting another Souls games? I liked 2 and I want more. Bloodborne looks way too different.
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>>253967426
>summons
Of course she does, because it's not Dark Souls 2 without adds in a boss fight.
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>>253969679
The level design and all that is part of the gameplay and it's part of what I meant.

dark souls and demons souls just don't get boring to play over and over. There's just something about them. But with DaS2, it just overstays its welcome.
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>>253970254
Because Demon Souls and Dark Souls were nearly equal in overall quality, with each one being stronger in certain areas and weaker in others.

Dark Souls 2 is a major step down from both and the indication is that this franchise is heading further down the drain in quality as it's popularity increases.
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>>253966959
>>253966103
This can't be happening!

I'm in charge here!!
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>>253970454
yeah thats the shitty thing

In Dark Souls 1 most bosses with adds/multiple foes either they could be negated some way or would come in when one is weak
Gaping Dragon - kill the channeller before
Four Kings/Pinwheel - kill them fast
Centipede Demon - don't sever the arms
Taurus Demon - can kill the archers before he appears
Nito - Divine weapons keeps the skellies dead, the giants only attack if you go near them

Dark Souls 2 sorely lacks moments like these
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>>253968791
And yet people would praise the level design and lack of soul memory meaning there was actual pvp.
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>>253969027
>>253969483
or it could've just been a newly designed dragon
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>>253966959
damit from
you had one thing one thing to do and you blow it
thats it i am enough with you i will ride /v/s hate wagon
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>>253970254
Different is good.
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Reminder that this counts as a boss-fight.
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>>253967080

According to Miyazaki, his team has been working on Bloodborne since after the Artorias DLC released for DaS. And from an early stage it was determined that it was going to be a PS4 game.

So yeah. DaS2 really WAS a b-team. The team responsible for DeS and DaS has been working on Bloodborne since late 2012.
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I....I can't....I can't defend this.

I stand down. /v/ was right.
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The souls series died once it released on PC.
Multiplat was pushing it.
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>>253963692
>>253966103
>>253966674
my god thats horrid
anyway is there going to be new armors weapons any real additions to the game ?
because thats the main reason for me playing and returning to this game
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>>253971396
I liked it.
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>>253971679
There's two stupidly strong Dark Crossbows
oh and TWOP and Second Chance are back but massively nerfed
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DLC leaked where?
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>>253969327
And you know this, how?
There are no legitimate sources that state that what you said is the truth.
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>>253971814
Its not really leaked when its already in the game.
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>>253968396
It will be glorious.

>>253967251
>>253967080
I've been waiting to hear shit like this from other people on /v/ since the game released. I'd actually been avoiding souls threads because of it. People that defend DaSII and Fromsoft anymore are deluded.
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>vocal minority samefagging all over the place

DaS 2 is objetively the best game in the saga and theres nothing you can do about it
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>>253966103
Wasnt havel already in the game? Are they seriously going to reuse him twice in the same game?
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>>253971951
>mfw the dlc update is 20 mb
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>>253971951
So people just changed some text file to allow early access on consoles or what? Because I've been through the game files and my pirated PC version doesn't have it.
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Reasons why Fromsoft a shit now:

1. Dark Souls 2 was objectively worse in design.
2. Bullshot pre-release.
3. "There will be no DLC" pre release, now there's DLC

They are now participants in the cash-grab phenomenon
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>>253972175
oh god the horrors
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>>253971887

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=840059

Yes yes I know. Neogaf. But the article where Miyazaki talks about it is all in nip. Here is the original if you can read it:

http://www.4gamer.net/games/260/G026038/20140611091/
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>>253972283
>>253972082
Neither of you gave any objective evidence. Do so or both of you can fuck off.
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>>253972175
i dont want to imagine that
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>>253972276
Because your pirated version isn't patched you retard. The actual patch was 1gb on steam, people got into the DLC with the help of Cheat Engine.
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>>253972283
>now
>almost entire history of the company has consisted of them rereleasing one game with updates
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>>253972175
mfw
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>>253972371
The problem with that is that it's likely marketing speak. Thanks for the sources though, it gives me a little hope.
I honestly do hope that Bloodbourne is good and DaSII was a fluke even though I'm mustard and I'll probably never play it but I am highly skeptical.
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>>253972446
So what the fuck do you even get for buying the DLC?
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>>253972402

You are objectively a faggot
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>>253972276
Patched in, people used a save editor to give access to item that allows travel to the new area.
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>>253972592
A pat on the back.
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>>253972592
A dick up your ass
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>>253972592
look>>253972175
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>>253963692
>I don't like Dark Souls 2.

...seriously though, the dlc looks meh so far.
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>>253972402
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2014/03/13/dark-souls-ii-graphics-and-lighting-downgrade-sparks-controversy/

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/12/20/dark-souls-2-dlc-is-not-really-being-considered

lel
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>>253972592
It will just trigger a flag in the game that spawns the entrance to the new areas. The DLC for DaS 1 worked in the same way in consoles with the content itself placed in a patch, although I dont know if you could get in by cheating.
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>>253972402

*Fist weapons are viable
*new weapon classes whips, lances, etc
*dual wielding
*summoning actually works in seconds
*better graphics, even without the lighting engine.
*More armor sets allowing for more variety in the gear you see people wearing online
*hexes and other magics added
*upgrading system is better
*more levels and bosses
*Backstabbing doesn't trivialize every enemy in the game
*mundane makes all weapons viable
*covenants actually work as intended this time and none of the covenents are completely worthless
*not constantly invaded by twinks in endgame gear at the starting zones
*more variety in enemies and boss types
*no bed of chaos tier boss
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I fucking hate dark souls 2s engine.
I don't know what it is, but Jesus christ , it feels like I'm moving through molasses the entire time. Even with 96 or 98 agi, it still feels so FUCKING delayed and slow. I loved how "cluncky" the combat in demons and dark souls was, and you had very quick movement. It was great. Sure, rolling needs a nerf, but they didn't do it right.
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>>253972884
>*More armor sets allowing for more variety in the gear you see people wearing online

Doesn't mean shit when everyone wears havels/smelter. And you can fucking fastroll in havels, that shouldn't even be a thing.
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>>253966959

fuck this world and everything on it

how can one company fuck up this hard
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>>253972884
The people youre arguing with havent played souls games, are skyrim fags, or thought the glitches in previous souls games added depth.
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I defended this fucking game, when shit-niggers were calling out how boring the atmosphere npc's and lore was, i defended that shit.

When people were complaining about the boring-ass bosses, i kept repeating darklurker like it made up for every other boss.

When people were complaining about the lack of fanart as a sign of boredom with the game, i said it was too early to call that.

Now this fucking dlc just rehashes, quite literally, Havel, which was already rehashed in DS2 anyway AND nashandra.

Next dlc will have Ornstein.

I give up, i aint defending this shit game.
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>>253973102
>daddy look at me! I just made my first straw man!
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>>253973020
Like it was different in previous games...
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>>253972884
>*more variety in enemies and boss types
bait/10
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>>253973020
Thats a problem with not having soul brackets in pvp. In dark souls 1 max levels ninja flipped in full giant.
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>>253966959
>eleana . the squalid queen
why do all the devs treat us like shit /v/ i cant stand it anymore ? do they think we are stubid
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>>253973236
>Next dlc will have Ornstein.
smough you mean, ornstein is already in game
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>>253973281
>mfw someone agreed with bait
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>>253973236
>The ornstein and smough bossfights gets reused with the same music in all three DLCs
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>>253972550

>The problem with that is that it's likely marketing speak.

About the gameplay? Sure. About when he was approached about making Bloodborne? Why would he lie about that? We've known for a while that he let someone else have the reigns with DaS2. Now it sounds like he took most of the DeS and DaS dev team with him to Bloodborne.
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>>253973239
>straw man
i thought it was ad hominem.
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>>253973419
>>implying it isn't samefag.
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>>253973394
they could probably squeeze him in again
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>>253972884
Whips are in dark souls 1, every fucking weapon in dark souls 1 is viable too, you can wreck with claws if you are good enough, more armor doesn't mean shit when its like demons souls and armor barley provides any defense, hexes were in dark souls 1, in 2 they just made them more powerful, how is the upgrading better? They dumbed it down. Backstabbing still wrecks anything you do it to, there's about an equal amount of levels, and overall they are smaller and don't expand upon themselves like in demons and dark souls 1, the covenants are worthless (at least online) because PvP is shit, mundane makes all weapons OP, constantly invaded? You could circumvent it by not going human. At least in dark souls 1 you don't have the possibility of invasion at every second, the variety is totally lacking, most bosses are humanoids with giant weapons, vendrick and the dragon.
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>>253973394
So is havel, but that didnt stop them from having him in the game twice.
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NO SEE IT MAKES SENSE FOR THEM TO REUSE BOSSES

IT FITS INTO THE LORE ABOUT HOW THE CYCLE OF LIGHT AND DARK KEEPS REPEATING AND THE SAME EVENTS KEEP TRANSPIRING SO OF COURSE YOU'D FIGHT THE SAME BOSSES AGAIN AND AGAIN
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Welp, that's 10$ I just saved.

What game should I buy with it? Thinking of getting Lost Oddesy for 360 but I lose interest fast in turn based RPG's.
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>>253973236
>darklurker, literal diablo 3 copypasta
>good
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>>253973635
thanks Vaati
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>>253973635
The plot of the game is also about people forgetting things, so the devs forgot to make a good game.
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>>253973236
my brother, as cancerous as we haters are, we all genuinely just wanted DS2 to be close to DS1 quality.
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>>253973635
>i wonder if bowser appears in the next mario game
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>There are people on /v/ who bought the season pass
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>>253973483
"The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position."
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>>253973665
Vanquish is pretty fun if you like third-person shooters. Shouldn't cost you more than 5$.
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>>253973731
2deep
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and tommorow we will see vati sucking froms dick
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>>253973816
i think i used both, ad hominem wrt skyrimfags and straw men vs glitching pvp nerds...still more valid than most stuff on v
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Spoiler: "B-team" is a myth.
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>>253974119
but c team is making bloodborne
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>>253974098
>admits to using fallacies in an "argument"
>thinks he's above the scum-tier average /v/ user
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>most bosses are humanoids with giant weapons

NOPE

Executioner's Chariot
Covetous Demon
Scorpioness Najka
Old Iron King
Royal Rat Authority
Prowling Magus & Congregation
The Duke's Dear Freja
Royal Rat Vanguard
The Rotten
Darklurker
Demon of Song
Guardian Dragon
Ancient Dragon


not to mention that the humanoids bosses all have their own gimmicks making them unique or you are going to tell me its the same to fight smelter and the lost sinner
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>>253974209
>Bloodbourne comes out
>Not a trainwreck, but DaSII tier
>G-g-guys, the TRUE spriritual successor to Demon's Souls is being worked on now by the TRUE original FROM dev team... Uhhh... Not that BAD one that made Bloodborne...
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i havent watched any of vaatishills videos since dark souls 2 or any other "lore" videos since dark souls 2 came out
are there any worth watching or is it all his contrived bullshit
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>>253973787
ya but what else is there to play?

it's sad time for vidya
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>>253974513
Fuck no.
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>>253974513
Give it a guess. Seriously, I have no doubt you'll get it first try.
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>>253974513
he pretty much lets /dsg/ and /v/ do his raw scripts for him, and he cashes out at the end

what am I saying, I'm just jealous he thought of that before me... fuck

>60
>GRAND
>PER YEAR
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>>253974391
>najka
Literally just quelagg with magic
>rat authority
Sit with 4 poison dogs
>magus
A FUCKING trash mob
>vanguard
Trash mob
>ancient dragon
Bed of chaos tier bullshit
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>>253971685
same
i liked rat vanguard and congregation
i just felt like congregation was poorly implemented
they should have made it a full chapel with the spell caster teleporting around and blasting you while the congregation was an actual full church of undead
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>>253974513
It's always the same shit like X things you Y about Dork Souls 2 shit.

It's sickening even just seeing the titles alone.
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>>253974495
From could literally rerelease DaS1 completely unchanged and people would still complain that it's not as good as Dark Souls
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>great hammers and claws will always be shit in both PVP and PVE
it hurts to live
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>>253974513
you could make your own mind or let the parroting shitposters in /v/ decide for you
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>>253969946
>Implying any living being can take Tarkus on a fight
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>>253974628
are there any videos besides vaati that are worth watching?
i remember seeing one actually where a guy was looking at one of the textures in the lost sinners room and examining it like it was an inkblot test or something
made zero fucking sense
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>>253974904
Did they nerf the Gyrm greathammer?
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>>253975058
Yep. The new meta is powerstanced Helix Halberds or powerstanced Pate's Spears.
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>>253974759
Assuming, at least in said universe this happens in, from aren't lambasted, people would complain that its a sequel that's still full of the same faults.
Sequels should improve upon their predecessors, not be filled with even more.
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>>253974958
i dont want to give that shill views unless theres something actually worth viewing
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So is strength still useless?
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>>253975002
>get invaded on top of Sens
>sprint to Tarkus
>watch Tarkus smash a twink off the side of the walkway
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>>253975031
That video you were talking about was a joke. The only good youtuber I know for the Souls series is EpicNameBro, he's a cool dude, not a shill, etc.
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>>253975058
all great hammer's R2s got nerfed to oblivion, literally a waste of stamina now
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Did.. people have trouble with the Vanguard?

Seriously?
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>>253975031
Jblackmel is PvP focused, but he's always upfront about how he feels 2 is a step down, and usually explains his thoughts, even though he is always so salty about drama.
ENB is good, and often times doesn't just suck 2s dick. He always sounds depressed though.
Matthewmatosis review is worth watching, as is his DeS commentary.
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>>253975215
>ENB didnt even finish his DaS2 playthrough

i know he hates it in secret, but cant tell the people
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>>253975317
Seriously? Of all the things to nerf, they pick that? They were the only satisfying weapon in the whole fucking game.
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>>253974391
>People hating on giant humanoids with giant weapons
Artorias was the best fight in Dark Souls, for me, at least.
Manus was amzing, and so was Kalameet.
2 of those are humanoids.
>Not DS2
Yeah, but the problem isn't a giant dude with a giant weapon, the problem is how the devs do the fight.
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>>253975445
He had to take a break from making videos due to personal reasons, he's continuing the playthrough tomorrow. There's a new update vid on his channel if you're interested.
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>>253975445
He released a video today. He's going to do more videos on it. He stopped because of his wife.
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>>253975404
>playing on PC
>60fps weapon degradation in effect
>using Large Club
>weapon breaks 1/3 of the way in, before Vanguard even drops down
>fug
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>>253975489
>PC version
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>>253974693
>najka
>Literally just quelagg with magic

Congratulations on being retarded, whilst the bosses look similar they are completely different encounters.
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>>253966959
Why is this even allowed?
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>>253975489
yeah, hardly anyone even used them
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>>253975650
>lag doesn't exist on console
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>>253975445
ENB is a fucking crybaby then.

In all honesty? As a die hard Souls fan I found it the most entertaining.

The combat felt alot better, it had more viable weapons and the level design if a little disjointed felt alot more complete than Dark Souls, though less so than Demon's Souls.

All I know is I am glad half the game isn't trundling around in a fucking shithole cave like Dark Souls is.
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>>253974391
>Executioner's Chariot
Cool, but taken straight from DMC3
>Covetous Demon
Boring design, boring attacks, boring boss
>Scorpioness Najka
B-team's Quelaag. Also, what am I playing God of War now.
>Old Iron King
Too easy,
>Royal Rat Authority
Utter garbage.
>Prowling Magus & Congregation
About as intimidating as a bucket of milk
>The Duke's Dear Freja
Giant spider.
>Royal Rat Vanguard
Trash.
>The Rotten
Looks like a random enemy.
>Darklurker
Stolen from Diablo.
>Demon of Song
When alongside every other terrible boss in the game, this one looks cool and original. But if it was in Dark Souls 1 or Demon's compared to the bosses there it ain't shit.
>Guardian Dragon
Generic
>Ancient Dragon
Joke boss.
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>>253975674
So why not and bear with me here, make different visuals for these different encounters?
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I can't.
I just can't defend Fromsoft anymore.
I knew this day would come- when my favorite developer would start churning out shit like they always do but I didn't think it would be so soon.
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>>253975807
the netcode is pretty good and it only gets bad when you face like a shitty australian or europian
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>>253975917
I dunno anon, why did you change your argument after I accused you of being wrong?
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>>253975893
2 has more caves than 1 though.
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>>253971086


>praise the level design

Level design is largely worse in 1 with entire maps unfinished and empty. The world design however, is better connected, but the actual level layouts are much better in 2.

>lack of soul memory meaning there was actual pvp.

That's bullshit because DaS1's brackets were even worse with level 30's being matched with level 713. Half the people on 4chan don't actually know what they're talking about when it comes to pvp matchmaking.

http://darksouls.wikidot.com/online-matchmaking
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>>253975986
The net code is better than DS1, but I don't think it's very good.
>mfw I'll never know if I'm a good pvp-er because of lag stabs/hits
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>>253966959
>>253966103
This is EA levels of shit. I feel ashamed for giving those fuckers any money. Fuck B-team
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Some people are saying that the true ending is only available through the DLC and there is one QTE in this DLC.
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>>253976076
Wasn't that anon bud, just trying to understand why they would literally copy and paste boss designs if they were going to change the boss fights.
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>>253975946
Don't compare Miyazaki's Diamond Dogs and their gems of games to the B-team's fan-fiction drivel.
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>>253976191
>HALLWAYS FULL OF HUMANOID ENEMIES BEFORE BOSSFIGHTS
>JUST A BONFIRE BEFORE A FUCKING HALLWAY STUFFED WITH ENEMIES
>BETTER LEVEL DESIGN
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did they like buff poise or something?

I mean It just procted on a two handed mace swing while I was winding up my ZWHY r1
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>>253969210
What's going on with that picture? What does that thing on the right mean?
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>>253976076
That's someone else, I'm trying to remember how najka fights compared to quelagg.
They both have close physical swipes, but najka has more ranged attacks (even though they both have them) quelagg are better though because hers effect the environment for a time, and she has her magic pulse if so stay too close.
Both bosses jump around, najka can go under the sand but standing on a rock nullifies this. She has dragon like tail attacks, but jumping was about as effective.
I don't think you can stun najka either, which is bullshit.
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>>253976374
Yeah, they buffed poise a bit and nerfed the defense on most armors.
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>>253976148
At least there is shit in the cave and they didn't turn the lights out to hide that shit.

>>253975904
Here is what we call a "bitch" who sucks so much dick he forgets there are like 8 actual bosses in Dark Souls that are not just rehashed enemies.
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>>253976341
I'm not buying a PS4, but I really want BloodBorne to be a good game.
DS2 left a good hole in me, I only want to see this series doing great, and I don't think DS2 did this.
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>>253974716
The early stuff was actually interesting videos, but then it became super obvious that he was just scraping the bottom of the barrel in order to release a higher volume of content and get more jewtoob money.

Those "X things you didn't know about Y" videos are literal cracked-tier clickbait. And even before those you could see how he was scraping the bottom, like with those cut content lore videos.
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>>253975520
When people say humanoids they're also referring to movesets. Artorias was fun because he was all over the place with his own attacks.
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>>253976618
Same here man. Same here.
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>>253976357
>Literally a shit cave but made dark to hide the boring ass level design
>A fire cave
>A very liner and boring library followed by a disjointed blue cave
>Last level is pretty cool But leads to a gray cave

Shits just caves nigga.
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>>253976341
Well then maybe they should kick the shitters out and have them form their own dev studios. It's like paying good money for a massage and then getting an intern.
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>>253976341
>Muh B team.

Most of the names on Dark Souls 2 are from Dark Souls.

So if anything, Bloodborne is made by the B team.
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>>253975190
>tfw roleplaying iron golem
>tfw host summons tarkus and I just wind blade him off the ledge instantly
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>>253966103
>>253966674
>>253966959
Fucking disgusting. As if I needed another reason to stay away from Bloodborne. These fucks aren't getting another dime from me.
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>>253975445
ENB doesn't finish any of his playthroughs
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>>253975986

It's not the netcode you fucking dildo. It's because of how the hitboxes are tied to the framerate, and for whatever fucking reason they thought this was okay despite knowing the PC version would run at 60
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>>253976884
Someone post the chart, because that's incorrect.
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>>253976956
yep Ill stick with 30fps just to make things consistant here
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>Dark Souls II is now hated by /v/ as much as Bioshock Infinite or Gone Home

Why
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>>253977087
>now
Welcome newfriend.
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>>253976787
Given the reaction to DS2, I doubt the new directors will be trusted with much more after this DLC cycle.

People who hug From's nuts 24/7 don't realize that doing so leads us to getting shit like Dark Souls 2.
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>>253976904
>roleplaying as a boss
>having fun, themed invasions
I remember what that felt like...
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>>253977087
Because it broke our hearts anon, is not shit, but is far, far worse than what DkS1 was. I have lost everything that was good and now is... average
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>>253977087
because /v/ is a single, cynical, spiteful faggot
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>>253977087
People finally stopped being delusional FROMdrones and actually realized the game was a half-assed rushed piece of shit.

It's also less of blind hate and more of extreme disappointment then anything.
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>>253976191
2 has a bunch of levels that feel unfinished. Not only that, but shorter and no where near as open or vertical.
Like blighttown. The gutter suck compared to blughttown. Its shorter, the enemies are easier, you can only enter from one point (blightown has two entrances, and then connects to two other areas) it doesn't add in various elements (blighttown goes from vertical climb down to a huge open swamp. Gutter is just a several slightly open houses connected by bridges).
Its shit. The level design fucking sucks in dark souls 2. Never mind all the god damn bonfires either.
And dark souls has way better brackets. You got way more fucking action, and a infinite up/infinite down made sense from a lore stand point. You were still brackted off from down/up respectively too. You at least have to build your character in 1 depending on the PvP you wanted. No matter what, unless soul memory is removed, there's no reason not to Max level in 2. You are punished for not continuing to level, in fact.
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>>253974391
>Executioner's Chariot
Cool
>Covetous Demon
Shit, easy, boring fight
>Scorpioness Najka
ok..
>Old Iron King
Shit. Reminded me of Bed o Chaos
>Royal Rat Authority
Sif Reskin. Shit
>Prowling Magus & Congregation
Shit
>The Duke's Dear Freja
Ok..
>Royal Rat Vanguard
Utter shit
>The Rotten
Humanoid figure with big weapon.
>Darklurker
Ok...
>Demon of Song
Ok..
>Guardian Dragon
Utter shit
>Ancient Dragon
Are you even trying? This boss is a joke

Shit: 8
Ok: 4
Good: 1
I'm sorry Dark Souls 2 bosses are utter garbage
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>>253976597
>turn lights out
I find this so ironic. We were fucking lied to about the torch system, and because of it dark souls 2 is brighter than 1.
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>>253977087
guys guys! they fixed poise!

they decreased the treshholds by a shitton and it still only works as super armor!

I think the super armor frames for heavier weapons will make them a little more viable!
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Another series killed by shitty cash ins and dlc bullshit. rest in peace
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>>253977004
>>253976884
The majority of staff had no creative say in the matter.
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>>253977239
Oh fucking please.

The Combat in Dark Souls one was fucking pathetic.

And the game literally drops off halfway through and limps forward with boring shitty bossfights and pathetic level design after Anor Londo.

>>253977319
>Build your character. Dark Souls.

You mean exactly two builds right?

Magic or Strength/Dex. Everything else sucked ass.
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Have people forgotten that the asylum demon was reused four times(including smough)? Also gwyndolin, bed of chaos, Priscilla, pinwheel, and moonlight butterfly were extremely gimmicky and were all poor excuses for a boss fight.
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>>253969946
But Tarkus was alredy in the game.
after Seath experimented on him he turned into Manscorpion Tark
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>>253977506
>FROM series
>killed by dlcs

No, any series FROM ever created was either forgotten or got shit sequels. FROM is inconsistent as fuck.
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>>253977543
>Most of the people are from Demon's Souls
>Waaaah Dark Souls 2 is shit.

I am convinced every crying bitch is a Dark Souls tier fuckbaby who praises that lifeless husk of a game and exclaims it has atmosphere and good bosses.

There are 2 good bosses in Dark Souls. 2.
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its safe to assume the best players in the B team have moved onto bloodborne,
and the DLC is being made by the C team
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>>253977652
> Also gwyndolin, bed of chaos, Priscilla, pinwheel, and moonlight butterfly were extremely gimmicky and were all poor excuses for a boss fight.

Yeah, but at least they had variety.

The majority of DS2's bosses are gigantic humanoids with large weapons that you beat by circling behind them and attacking their blind spot.
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>>253977237
theme invasions was what I loved to do in DaS. I loved iron golem invasions in sens, silver knight archer invasions in AL, shrek invasions in blighttown swamp, chameleon dickass thief invasions in upper blighttown, etc etc. I did true SL120 pvp as well, but my heart was in the theme invasions.

And DaS2's soul memory system killed all that. But you can't even bring this up without being accused of just being a twink.
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>>253977568
Your baits are low level anon, gather more souls
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I wonder why you guys are all silly about the DLC like if it where on disk?

they made it "free" with the patch so you can get summoned to try it out if you like it or not
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>there are people in this thread who actually think Bloodborne will be better than DaS2
>there are people in this thread that think the complaints of people on 4chin aren't vastly outweighed by people on reddit and other sites who give DaS2 nothing but praise
>there are people in this thread that think From doesn't measure success in sales and therefore sees DaS2 as being a great success

yeah, good luck fromdrones. b-team or not, standards have fallen to shit, from is done making good games and will fall into the COD "one game a year" cycle of mediocrity. this is what success does to a company, no surprise
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>>253977784
You mean like most of the bosses in Dark Souls are either a large stupid monster you beat by circling behind them and attacking their blind spot OR a large humanoid with a large weapon?
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>>253966674

>Rapacious
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>>253977568
>The Combat in Dark Souls one was fucking pathetic.
>The Combat
>Dark Souls one
>pathetic.
Are you simple? Do you not realize how much of a fucking gigantic PVP scene there was in that game? That was one of the MAJOR reasons why it was so popular. You can talk about backstabs or shield pokes all you want but the very core of the system was well balanced, innovative, fun and had a fuck ton of room for innovation.
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>>253977652
I'd rather have gimmicky fights than big person with big weapon
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>>253977745
>Most of the people are from Demon's Souls

17 people are from Demon's Souls. I'm thoroughly convinced that people who defend this game are mustards who loathe the idea of getting shafted with the least-favorite game in the series.
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>>253977784
You can circle strafe the bosses in the first game too, dipshit. It's even easier since they're all giant.
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>>253977568
you're ignorant if you think there are only 2 builds. And even then, 2 people can have the same overall style of build (ie, str/faith) and still be completely different.
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>>253977784
I'd rather have the same type of enemy reskinned than something as shitty as the Bed of Chaos. People give B-Team shit all the time, but they seem to forget that the latter half of DaS was utter trash.
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>>253977568
How much PvP did you do in dark souls 1?
Fai STR/ FAI DEX/ MAG DEX/ MAG STR/ QUALITY/ Pyromancy and cos plays were all viable builds. And I'm saying that you actually had to build your character. Every bracket that got play meant you'd have to sacrafice stats depending on what you wanted. In 2, this isn't the case. Unless you hack your soul memory or create a new character, eventually you will be paired with players that maxed leveled and there's nothing you can do. There's no point in a build, just max level because there's no point not to.
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Guys I played for nearly two hundred hours just dicking around with different characters and ran out of fucks.

Tried playing it again and the giant king is just so boring I can't get back into the game.

Solutions?
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>>253977873
Everything about your statement is wrong
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>WHAT AGAIN HAVEL?
>RESKIN OF FINAL BOSS?

You fucking forget too easily how you had to fight 3 re-skins of Asylum demon on DkS1
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So is there like anything new in the DLC? More big dudes in armor and a shitty reskin of the final boss? Are you kidding me? They want people to spend money on this?
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>>253977679
>implying Iron Tarkus wasn't reborn as Jester Thomas
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>>253977946
its just soul memory is whats wrong with das2 pvp really

>>253978095
what they should hide the content behind the purchase?
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>>253969815
No, you don't seem to get it.
A team wanted to ALSO milk the franchise, so they made Bloodbourne for Sony, while they let B team make Dark Souls 2 for Bamco

Both teams are milking the franchise
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>>253978121
Go look at /dsg/, there are plenty of pics and shit. It looks bad.
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>>253978219

>parroting this reddit meme
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Also, the nashandra clone has her own moveset and fights nothing like nashandra. The dragon kind of is a watered down kalameet though.
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>>253978219
Jester Thomas invades you in the Sunken King DLC.
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>>253978070
Play Dark Souls and make a friendly merchant build.
I usually run with the sack, holy robes and havel's gauntlets and leggings,
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>>253978109
You know what I remember? I remember the Artorias DLC coming out and having the best fucking boss fights in the entire series. Now that was DLC.
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>>253977918
>>253977992
The keyword there being variety. Moonlight Butterfly, Priscilla, Bed of Chaos, Gwyndolin, Sif, all required different ways of fighting them. They may not have all been good, but there was variety in the ways you took each of them down.

How many bosses in Dark Souls 2 require NOT walking around the back of the boss?
Sif 2.0, Voidwalker, and Throne Watcher/Defender, and Iron King are all that comes to mind.
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>>253977946
>but the very core of the system was well balanced
Stopped reading.
3/10, made me give a pity reply.
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>>253978109
i-its not the same
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>>253978109
What are you talking about? Everything on Dark Souls 1 was perfect. People who says things like most of its content was rehashed from Demon's Souls are just crazy.
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>>253978001
>>253977946

>UH GREAT PVP SCENE
>MUH MLG PROS

This is what you made the PvP of Dark Souls into. It was a fucking Moba tier E-sport shithole. There were only 5 viable weapon styles and they all played the fucking same. You cast your super fast broken dark spells or you fished for a parry/back stab.

No super armor on some attacks, No unparryable attacks, no Dual wielding styles. Nothing but Claymores and weapons with high critical hit while stacking Poise.

Tell me, What was the fun in PvP when the cunt was just using the same shit as everyone else and no weapon was rewarding or fun at all?
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>>253978109
Oh yes because when I buy a sequel I expect everything that was shit about the previous game to NOT be fixed! Not even on the DLC!! What a great fucking deal! God bess Fromsoftware
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>>253978362
>Havels
>ever
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Dark Souls 2? What are you guys talking about? They never made a sequel.
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>>253978341
What? Are you retarded?
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>>253978403
Not them, but Sif didn't exactly require strategy beyond
>Shield up

Really, none of the bosses you listed were particularly good. You can claim variety all you want, but they were either tedious or just outright shit.
>THIS SHIT IS BETTER THAN THAT SHIT
Naw man.
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>>253978516
You didn't ever play Demon's Souls right? Everyone who played it and later played Dark Souls knew what to expect from this game
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>>253978403
And taking them down was boring as fuck and felt stupid.

Once again, same shit with DS1.
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>>253978048
>Brackets
>Viable builds
>All of them using magic or quality claymore.

>>253978403
>The bosses had variety
>circle it to avoid attacks, hit it with a large damage attack to stagger it to death.
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>>253978350
welp
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>>253978523
>not looking like a big huggable teddy bear
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I'm glad we all agree that all the Souls games are shit and the people who play them are babies who want to look hardcore in front of their slut moms
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>>253969210
stop with these shitty pictures
stop pretending that DaS is great with muh lore when there are games like planescape, morrowind etc.
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>>253978629
I did. It was a lot better then Dark Souls 2.
Dark Souls 1 > Demon's Souls > Dark Souls 2
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>>253978592
It's sad when a development team doesn't pay attention to the problems with their previous game and improve upon them for the sequel, which is exactly what Dark Souls 2 didn't do.

The two aspects may be "shit," but Dark Souls 2 willingly allowed it to happen twice, and that makes it far more at fault in my book.
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If you fucking guys really think, and it's not trolling, IF YOU FUCKING REALLY THINK DkS1 PvP was only "2 builds" you didn't played shit of it.

For fuck sake, I miss so much seing a cool weapon and thinking "I'll make an specific build for that one", and seing how good it was on PvP.

I NEVER wanted to make builds like that on DkS2 aside from "Magic/Str/Dexpoison".
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>>253970454
>>253971067
am i missing an epic maymay? like 2 bosses had adds. Neither of them were memorable for their difficulty.
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>>253978696
That's literally more variety to max level.
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>>253978592
If we claim Variety then fuck me Demon's Souls beats the ever loving shit out of Dark Souls by a fucking mile.

>Boss that can regenerate it's health unless on ifre
>Boss that gets stronger and faster the lower it's health
>Boss can only be defeated by hitting a specific weak spot
>Boss is actually a PvP summon
>Boss can only be beaten effectively with a weapon found in the area.
>Boss listens for your footsteps
>Boss is a stealth event
>Boss is a superfast human sized enemy.
>Boss is a hive of bees that get burned off by enemies
>Boss is a feel
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>>253966103

There are people that actually think there are people posts ever meant something or bothered anyone.
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>>253966320
They did it in order to make sure people who didn't buy the DLC wouldn't be missing out on anything. Honestly you guys should be praising From for thinking so well about the consumer instead of whining about it.
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>>253979019
>>253979041

Please, do tell me the variety.

I sure did enjoy all the large two handed strength weapons.

Oh wait, everyone and their mother could parry them and they were fucking worthless.

Removing Hyper armor on attacks was fucking stupid.

"Viable" for Dark Souls meant "I could beat up bad people who didn't use Dark Magic"
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Why was DS2 so much shittier than DS1?
Was it the shitty hitboxes?
Was it the uninspired scenary?
Horrible light and particle effects?
Was it the uninspired boss fights?

I don't know, I love the Souls series but just couldn't bring myself to finish this shit.
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>>253979052
>Boss is a feel
kek
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>>253979019
I still PvP in dark souls.
I have a quality build, pure STR, mag Dex, pure mage, a havel cos play and fai dex. They are all viable, they all play differently. I just jump around on all of them and fight the same people over and over, but each encounter is different
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>>253979158
You're right I should thank them for selling me a part of the game that could have been originally apart of it.
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is there a way to pirate the dlc?
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>>253972150
No he wasn't. it was just a Havel knights armor apparently all Havel knights have the same armor according to the first dark souls item description.
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>>253979228
They're essentially the same thing. I played Dark Souls 1 after I played Dark Souls 2 and I thought it wasn't as good as whatever I played first as well.
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>>253979226
You literally said dark souls had 3 different play styles.
3 is more than 1. Like it or not 2 punishes you for not max leveling.
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>>253979228
>Love the souls series
>Says Dark souls 2 had the uninspired boss fights.

Nigga the bosses were more varied than Dark Souls 1.
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>>253978403

Demon of song you have to hit on the face when it opens.

Lost Sinner is too mobile to just run around behind, you pretty much have to bait/dodge to get some hits in. While technically just another humanoid with sword fight, it definitely plays differently than a lot of the others.

Executioners Chariot fight obviously very unique.

Royal Rat Vanguard introduced having to pick out the one different rat and focus him down. Again, not exactly exciting/ground breaking but its different.

Skeleton Lords again weren't a great boss, but killing them in a certain order and thus spawning the trash mobs in a certain order made the fight a lot easier IMO so there's at least an added layer of something to that fight

Not saying it wasn't a shit game, (some of you shitlords hating on it have 200+ hours on it, I put in less than thirty) but that's a stupid critique, DaS was just as bad at Boss un-uniqueness. I mean shit you fight fucking Asylum Demon reskins 3 times but i never hear anyone complaining about that.
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>>253977237
>>253977790
>Have full Smelter Demon set + weapon
>Why not.jpg
>Goes to Red Arena
>Stunlocked by someone using caestus
My char died with my heart at that moment
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>>253979336
You could use CE to give you the item so you can have access to the new areas, since everybody is forced to download the whole thing anyway. Just bear in mind you could be flagged and banned from the servers.
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>>253979228
Anon, it was because it was a lazy cash-in made to make money off of the hype of the first game. That is why B-team was created, that is why they're now releasing 3 more DLC. Greed.
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>>253979228
Hitboxes are broken. The environment is disconnected and doesn't feel like it has the spark that DaS1 areas did, outside of Heide's Tower. The boss fights and enemies are nothing more than recycled enemies from DaS1 but with more of them.

It's a fun game and all, but it suffers from some glaring problems in comparison to DaS and DeS.
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/v/ will defend this
tfw pcfag
tfw wont get to play bloodporn


a-at least i can emulate monster hunter
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>>253979427
>Nigga the bosses were more varied than Dark Souls 1.
>circle strafe left 90% of the bosses to win
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>>253979427
HAHAHAHAHA no
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>>253979403
Oh gee, and I finished the game at soul level 150 using only strength.

I guess the game just suddenly destroys itself and PvP stops working for me at that bracket right?

Oh wait, I still got invaded, still invaded and still won duels with people around my level.

It's a shocker.

Even at max level everything, Dark Souls 2 still has more than 3 weapon sets that are viable and fun to use.
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>>253979228
The issue with 2 is a lot of the areas and bosses just felt like copies of things people loved in 1. I don't wanna fight Not Four Kings and Not Nito, I wanna fight something new and exciting.
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>you now realize that every Souls game is shit
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>>253979598
>>253979608

These fucking Dark Souls fags man. These fucking Dark Souls fags.

>Raise shield
>swing when enemy finishes animation.

That's how you beat 99% of Dark Souls enemies.
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Lotta people in this thread don't know the difference between re-skinned and re-textured.

If something was re-skinned, it would be a new model (and possibly textures) on top of the same skeleton (which is probably already used more than once anyway).
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>forces dark souls 1 to be released almost a year quicker (thanks for bed of chaos)
>almost kick miyazaki out after demon souls is released because the director of sony said its a shit game
>all of ds2

i hate from so much
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>>253979792
we're not talking about normal enemies
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>>253979651
Except no boss fought like the four kings or Nito.

Did you forget how much of a pushover nito was?

I forgot Nito's arms could be cut off and was a faster cunt with no hiding places.
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>>253979792
What games do you like?
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>>253979827
>If something was re-skinned

No. A "skin" is a texture and nothing more

word became popular in quake1 community referring to player skins, which are simply textures
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I for one am hyped
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>>253979919
>Except no boss fought like the four kings or Nito.

Nigga the Skeleton Lords were just four kings but with one less guy and they used a scythe.
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>>253979792
I was so fucking dissapointed when I fought Manus, everybody said it was the hardest boss in the whole game, and yet I beat him in one try, one fucking try. Same shit for Kalameet, 4 Kings, Capra Demon, etc. Say whatever you want about the Souls games, but the bosses are the worst part of them.
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>>253979941
Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 2.

Dark Souls was the worst for me. People harp up on how deep it is, but the boss fights were worse and the PvP too tryhard and narrow.
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Call me a hipster, but I was hating on DSII since day 1
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>>253971396
>>253971685

I don't see the issue either. I mean, if it were a game like Demon's Souls, with a predictable structure of "Checkpoint, boss fight, checkpoint, boss fight..." then I might be disappointed that it was supposed to be the thing built up at the end of the level.
But in DaS, bonfires and bossfights are irregular; people say that Prowling Magus + Congregation is more or less a room full of enemies. So would they be less disappointed if it had no healthbar? Would it somehow be a better part of the level if, say, you were stopped from leaving by a long door opening animation rather than a fog gate?
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Unrelated, but Dark Souls 2 made me a lot better at Dark Souls 1. Since you can't really just lock on to enemies in the sequel or fight one at a time, I've learned how to play unlocked and keep track of all the enemies around me in a radius, even when not looking. I also don't ever play with a shield and can dodge a lot more easily. So it's not all bad.
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>>253980045
Why? Because there was multiples of them?

Four kings just popped up in a black background with terrible animations waiting for you to use Pyromancy on them so they die like huge bitches.
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>>253979792
But that's how I won almost every boss on DkS2, it didn't worked on 1 btw.
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>>253974391
>the bosses that arent big guy with weapon are all the worst bosses in the game and are horrible pieces of game design except for darklurker

you are not helping yourself
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>>253979598

oh right because in DaS1 you had to wall jump to beat some bosses, others you had to slide under their legs and hit them in balls or block their strong attack to enter a QTE sequence

fuck you, that's the game. boss attacks, you have three choices: circle dodge, shield, or get hit. at least DaS2 gave shittier shields so to avoid damage you had to use the slightly more skill involved option than "hold L1"
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>>253980076
I agree on Demon's Souls
the level design and bosses were amazing
I generally enjoyed the atmosphere and story more as well
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>>253980076
Now I'm confused what the fuck are you talking about then?
>Raise shield
>swing when enemy finishes animation.

That's literally how you beat 99% of the enemies in ANY souls game
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Are there instructions on how to access the DLC using Cheat Engine yet?
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>>253980212
Proof that /v/ is a hipster.
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>>253973728
no problem valued subscriber, now won't you please give me money with my patreon campaign so I can make another 10 things video
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>>253980045

>Skeleton Lords
>Like 4 Kings

4 Kings is an intense DPS race where taking too long will inevitably kill you. Skeleton Lords is a fight where you hide behind a perfectly safe bone pillar and wait for the enemy to come to you at a snails pace; literally the only thing in common is the fact that it's multiple enemies.
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plague of gripes talked shit about ds2 and poked fun at mat and woolie

can you disagree with god?
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>>253979616
As does dark souls.
You didn't PvP in dark souls 1. Hell just go watch popular youtubers. They FUCKING wreck with anything.
Literally anything is viable in the game, giving practice time. Sure, many things are op, but this is also the case in dark souls 2. At least 1 doesn't punish you for max leveling
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>>253980212
Yeah, nah bro.

I can name more bosses in Dark souls 2 that doesn't work on that in Dark souls with ease. Probably because a good half of Dark Souls bosses are fucking shit.
PCbaby confirmed.

Try that shit in Demon's souls. Get your shit slapped.
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>From has gone to potentially one of the best devs to absolute shit tier in only a year
why /v/

why did this happen
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>>253980180
hahaha as if, try rolling without ADP, you'll get raped so bad you'll develop stockholm syndrome.

Its bad mechanics like that that made DS2 such a horrible game unlike DS1.
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>>253976341
Miazaki was an overseer of dark souls 2, either there was a lot of bad communication or miazaki is losing it
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>>253980212
>But that's how I won almost every boss on DkS2

Bullshit, you can't even block attacks from big bosses like Old Iron King and Giant Lord.

>it didn't worked on 1 btw

It's because you're bad at the game then, I used to use the Silver Knight shield and there wasn't a single enemy that could stop me.
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>>253980531
See>>253967481
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>>253980442
Again, proof Viable means "I fuck over shit people"

Also

>Watch MLG PRO GAMERS PLAY A SHALLOW RPG MANG

You people fucking disgust me. Why the fuck would I watch two cunts spinning around in a circle for ages?
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>>253968704
See, I thought DeS and DaS 1 were kinda dull, one-and-done games.
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>>253980531
How long have you been following From? Their games have always been extremely hit and miss. The only difference is now they have a larger audience to point out when they made a shit game.
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>>253980520
Go ahead. I'll wait.
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>>253980258
Demon Soul's nexus theme:
>Mystery
>Calmness
>Coziness
>A tinge of sadness
Dark Souls 2 Majula theme:
>Depression
>Waaaaah we all have Alzheimer's
>More sad
>Death
>Misery
Holy shit if I wanted to relive my teenage years I'd go listen to linkin park.
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>>253977543

A lot of the higher ups are FROM Software veterans. If a B team did exist, it'd have Miyazaki.
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Can someone post the kalameet clone?
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>>253980596
Souls is fucking shit, at least 2 has good pvp.
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>>253980432
I don't even know who that is so his onions are probably not important.
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You fuckers are so fucking stupid it hurts.

The most important thing the souls game did right, is to make boss fights and the world interesting.

INTERESTING.

Being hard doesn't necessarily make something interesting, nor does something being easy mean it is uninteresting.

Here let me pair it down for you retards.

1. Sif is mechanically a super simple fight, but he is fucking interesting because of his theme (Wolf guarding masters grave)
2.Gwyn is interesting, actually mechanically good but has one major flaw (parry) but the music makes you feel bad for him
3. Artorias is artorias-tier nuff said, mechanically and thematically awesome
4.Capra demon is 'your in the wrong neighbourhood'.
5. Kalameet is mechanically a breath of fresh air for dragon fights and its good to see an actually agile dragon.
6. Manus is mechanically a good fight
7.Ceaseless discharge is retarded mechanically, but has some interesting lore behind him
8.Queelag is ok
9. Priscilla and gwyndolin mechanically are very simple, but very interesting characters.
10.Pvp-wise, game has the best theme invasions due to awesome armor sets and weapons and spells and areas
11.There is a good attempt at variety in weapons and armor in pvp, when i say variety, i mean they have significantly different moveset and appearance.
11. World is actually interesting and well designed, tons of shortcuts and loops back to various areas, implications to lore, nice sightseeing.

Lets take DS2
1. All bosses are boring thematically,some with absolute zero story behind them, only one boss is good mechanically (darklurker).
2.No themed invasions, invasions fucked up the ass
3.Pvp due to mechanics everyones rolling in havels and weapons don't have much variety.
4. Level design doesnt make sense on any level.
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>>253980601
all that position entails is making sure shit gets finished on time
I doubt Miyazaki was too creatively involved in the development of Dark Souls 2; especially since Bloodborne has been in development this entire time as well
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>>253980857
Is /v/'s onions important?
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>>253977087
because ds2 is in the same train as bioshock
the dissapointing uninspired sequel to amazing series that had all the chances to be 10/10 game of the year all years, of course ds2 is much better than bioshock infinite in every level but they are both disliked for the same reason

gone homo is just a shit game that no one had any expectatives for and thats why /v/ hates it
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>>253980370
ENB, pls
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>>253980959
Only when they are similar to mine.
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>>253980729
>Blocking doesn't work on in DS2.

Any large attack by large boss

>Blocking doesn't work on in Dark Souls

Manus
Those floaty orbs from Moonlight butterfly
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>>253980959
/v/'s onions have layers
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>>253980838
>at least 2 has good pvp.
You are joking right?
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>>253979520

Do you think the people that worked on Dark Souls 2 are interns? Are you honestly that retarded?
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>First they absolutely neuter lightning miracles, rendering faith-builds completely useless.

>>253966103
>>253966674
>>253966959
>Now this

Holy shit, is everyone working on Dark Souls 2 completely drunk all of the time these days?
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>>253980596
i like how it works in das2. if my agility is high ebnough i can fatroll dodge some spells in pvp even
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>>253981017
>Manus

You can block most of Manus attacks with a good shield though.
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>>253980806
Miyazaki is the fucking president of From Software mate
I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to get at
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>>253980895
So basically.

>DARK SOULS HAS MECHANICS AND LORE
>DARK SOULS 2 DOES NOT.

>I CANNOT COMMENT ON DEMONS SOULS AS I AM A HUGE CASUAL.

Tower of Latvia. That is always my arguement to every single Dark Souls baby.
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>>253972780
Poor unfortunate souls
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the worst part is that the DLC was the best part of ds1
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>>253981017
>Any large attack by large boss
kek
Good job not answering the question
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>>253971396
That fight felt so easy after Najka and Royal Rat Authority.

It's like if Pinwheel was AFTER Nito.
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mfw all the recent changes made my ZWHY viable!

though I do keep a backup claymore just incase
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>>253981134
>First they absolutely neuter lightning miracles, rendering faith-builds completely useless.

Oh boohoo you can no longer cheese PvE like a little scrub bitch.
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>>253981017

>Any large attack by large boss

Wrong.

>Manus

Also wrong.

Blocking works in both of those situations unless you're using a tiny shield for no reason.
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>>253980895
>Enemy does three attacks then stops
>Good mechanics.

>>253981167
I had to try and give one more than the Butterfly right?
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>>253981204
>>253972780
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/dark-souls-2-producer-says-dlc-could-happen-if-fans-want-it/
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>>253981193
>Latvia
Hey someone is aware of our existence!
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>>253980895
Im sorry you didnt enjoy Dark Souls 2
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>>253963692
what is this? a daily reminder that you got a shitty pc?
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>>253981183
Yes, a month ago.
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>>253980895
>Hurr muh lore

The only reason the lore is so "mysterious" and "open ended" is to pander to pseudo-intellectual faggots like you.
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>>253981235
More like the only good part. The dlc bosses were actually kind of good while all the original ones were garbage.
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>>253979019
oh god i miss summoning my friend and waiting for people to invade us in the forest while we dressed as ornstein and smough

>he backstabs a guy
>while he isn the middle of the animation getting up i start charging great lightning spear
>HAPPY FEET WOMBO COMBO
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>want to give myself 99 red eyes with collectors edition as well as lower my soul memory so I can keep doing fun cosplay invasions
>don't want to risk a softban
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>>253981121
Judging by how bad the game is, I'd say they probably should be.
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>>253981193
Actually i played demon souls.

Demon souls has the best examples of level atmosphere, latvia and boletaria.

Dark souls has Anor Londo and tomb of giants, good but not as good.

Dark souls has far more interesting bosses, demon souls only really has false king alant, and maybe maneater for difficulty spike.

Demon souls did one thing very well, dark souls did many things better
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>>253980596

>you'll get raped so bad you'll develop stockholm syndrome.
If you get hit in the middle of your roll you'll never get hit. Go back to dark souls and flip everywhere you pathetic faggot.
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>>253981237
Not him but, Old Iron King, Last Giant, Giant Lord, Covetous Demon, Duke's Dear Freja, The Rotten, Ancient Dragon, Executioner's Chariot, Rat Authority and Demon of Song have attacks that you can't block with any shield, there may be more but these are the ones I remember from the top of my head.
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>>253981193
What does DeS have to do with anything this guy said? He was comparing DaS to DaS2
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>>253981489
>trade orbs back and forth with somebody
>that's it you made it
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>>253966103
Why does this game have such a hard-on for havel, anyway?
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Fuck this. I will probably never bye anything of theirs again. Poorly made, Dark Souls had a lot of charm and had combat that was actually reactive even if PVP was just min maxing. Dark Souls 2 however is only poorly made and really doesn't have much to come back to. I guess I will just go back to normal RPGs at this point. Here's to hoping that action RPGs make a real resurgence, hopefully Bannerlord and Wild Hunt deliver.
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>>253980895

i can't even tell if this is b8 or not. you type out your long post like its some sort of revelation, but you basically just list out your favorite DaS1 bosses and go into 0 depth on what makes them mechanically good fights and all of the DaS2 fights mechanically bad.

1/10, made me reply
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>>253979228
uninspired scenary
>dragon enemy, what is it gonna be like?
>oh its just generic normal fantasy dragon
>even though thats not what the dragons in the souls series look like
>its not even a real dragon

oh ok thanks
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>>253979228
I hate ds2 because of the hitboxes and tying i-frames to agility. They made the base game shit unless you pump adp to 30 and they make SL1 runs a complete fucking nightmare.
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>>253981487
You two were a par of faggots and I loved to kick your kind ass's with my dark magic build. But I even miss you, for fuck sake.

Now everything is "3 guys with 6 avelyns"
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>>253981548
You sound like an interesting expert
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>>253981423
You do realize that mystery was what inspired Miyazaki to make the series, right? The story goes that he read western literature and since he couldn't understand it too well, his mind filled in the blanks. He wanted to recreate that in a game, and thus he created the souls series.
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>>253981414
even so
It's clear that he was still pretty high up on the food chain just by the fact they made him president
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>>253981574
funny how almost all of these bosses are shit though
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>>253971685
calling it a bossfight was just stupid though

perhaps i got disappointed because i played DeS and the setting somewhat reminded me of fool's idol
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>>253981573
Thats not how hitboxes work on DS2 anon, good try though.
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>>253981698
>and thus he created the King's Field series

Fixed that for you fucking pleb.
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>>253981423
no, the lore is interesting in DS1 and DeS is because its told in an under-stated way, and not outright told.

In other words, its how a real living world would behave, not explicitly telling you things, but its there and makes sense.

Ciaran's hornet ring found near artorias' grave many thought there was a relationship between the 2, and the dlc confirmed it.
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>>253980520
I don't see how not being able to block an attack is a good thing? Please explain
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>>253981574
Was just going to post a big ass list, but thanks.

>>253981754
>BUT THEY'RE SHIT.

Shall we post a list of Dark Souls bosses and pick out the shit ones that only cycle through three attack animations?
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>>253981548
You are defending Carpa Demon
Could you be any more transparent?

we are all very impressed with how little you enjoyed Dark Souls 2
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>>253981134

>implying lightning spear wasn't game breaking

you can rush that shit so early in das2 and beat basically any boss with it with no trouble at all. you babies are just barely better than hex fags
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>>253979529
It also lacks some glaring problems that Dark Souls 1 lacked, which for me make up for its flaws.
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>>253981754
Your argument was the same strategy for every boss and not the bosses being shit in your opinion, this isn't a blog though.
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>>253981592
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>>253981783

Hitbox isn't some sort of magical term that makes you win any argument. Stop trying to talk about something you don't know at all.
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>>253981680
>I used to use my generic build
>Too bad now it's generic build!
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>>253972592
an activation file or something like

it was the same with artorias of the abyss dlc, there was a big patch which added the new files to the game while buying the dlc just gave you access to these new files
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>>253981842
Oh look, another pseudo-intellectual.
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>>253981945
that Dark Souls 1 had*
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>>253981629
i'm not going into a full blown essay of the mechanics of each fucking boss fight, if you disagree post which bosses you disagreed with and i'll discuss.

Anyone who played the souls game knows whawt i typed is true.
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>>253982038
Yes but that was okay because it was DaS.
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>>253982049
thanks for the input
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>>253982026
That was only one of all my save slots full of builds.
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>>253981979
>>253981910
not the same guy tho
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>>253982083

>Anyone who played the souls game knows whawt i typed is true.
>you just don't get it anon and i can't be troubled to explain it to you

nice argument m8
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>>253981882
Oh you pathetic little Dark Souls baby.

Blocking was a last resort. A sacrifice of a resource.

Demon's souls and Dark Souls 2 promotes not having a shield and learning to avoid blows, not mitigate them.

Dark Souls let every sucker turtle through the game like a casual.

Hell, the kick is fucking glorious in Dark Souls 2 JUST to kill former Dark Souls players.
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>>253982129
You're welcome. Go fap to your giantess sluts in DaS1.
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>>253982049
whats a psuedo-intellectual? your like the person who doesn't like people who enjoy a part of the game you do not enjoy.
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>>253981935
b-but hitboxes are shit!
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>>253982083
Actually, mechanics aside, you are completely wrong about the bosses having no story behind them. They do. Every single one of them. Saying that they don't only makes you seem like a lazy cunt that doesn't do his research.
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>>253982197
>Oh you pathetic little Dark Souls baby.
stopped reading there
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>>253982197
>Hell, the kick is fucking glorious in Dark Souls 2 JUST to kill former Dark Souls players.
Oh god yes i love that.
>b-but i'm circling around this guy while blocking, this is what DaS is all about
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>>253982083
Please go into depth as to why you feel Carpa Demon was a better boss than anything in Dark Souls 2 barring DarkLurker
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tfw no vaginabellydragon
tfw no black nigga dragon
tfw no blind octopus dragon

tfw shitty uninspired generic dragon
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>>253982229
You. The lore wasn't even that interesting. Just standard fantasy bullshit.
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>>253981494

Maybe you just don't know anything about vidya and are finally realizing the flaws that have been in the Souls series since forever.
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>>253982274
They are.
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>>253981942
>>253981261

Well definitely don't wait three years and one sequel to patch the game if you feel as if that one of the core gameplay elements that you included since day one is perhaps overpowered.

Meanwhile magic fags are still free to soul-dildo their way to victory.
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>>253982197
i blocked every boss in DS2, so what are you even saying? you state bosses in DS2 have unblockable moves, DS1 has those too fuckwit.

Gwyn has grab moves, 4 kings, nito, queelag does significant fire damage through shields (unless you use heater shield, ornstein snd smough has stab-grab and butt stomp.

Fuck, just listening to you makes me think your retarded.
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>>253982274
well, they are
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>>253981991
Just look for "hitboxes dark souls 2" and you'll understand, I know you haven't played the game so you wouldn't know.

If you roll without ADP and shit hit you in the middle of your roll, you're going to take the damage regardless.

You're only safe if you raise your ADP to the point where you have enough iFrames, because really evading on this game does nothing unless you have that stat, which is BEYOND a deep retarded mechanic.
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>>253982423
See
>>253981935
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>>253982197
Why can I never get guard-break to work on PC? I can kick with 100% consistency in DS1.
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>>253982365
exactly this and the fact this game had like fucking 5 foresty levels
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>>253982336

Whoa, what's so bad about the darklurker?
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>>253982423
Yeah, the hitboxes on the giants in Anor Londo were atrocious.
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>>253982365
It's literally Kalameet with poison. B-team does it again!
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>>253982327
I love how people who whine about Dark Souls 2 are the same people who ran generi builds and were all about MUH LORE

>Using a two hander in Dark Souls 1
>Oh the guy is using a shield, I can't break that - oh he parried my swing with utter ease

>Using a two hander in Dark Souls 2
>Surprise motherfucker
>Kick that shit, flatten that shit.
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>>253979052

Fuck me, Demons Souls was great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9piElENpvmM
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>>253982365
That was the point because he isn't a real dragon, there are no real dragons in Dark Souls II, they probably long extinct because Aldia was a cunt and killed all of them.
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>>253970529

> "What i meant was the polar opposite of what i said!"

Unless you're making simplistic shit like candy crush, level design =/= gameplay in the slightest.

DS2 gameplay, as in swordplay, magic and items used in and around the fighting of ones enemies is an improvement over both Dark and Demons souls.

It only sucks because the world is total shit, trying to merge the hub based 'levels' of Demons with the bonfire / exploration mechanics of Dark. Plus a lot of the bosses were either just shit or rehashes of previous fights from other games.
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>>253982493
Because it's broken
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see pic
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>>253982462
>I blocked every boss in DS2.

Except you literally can't. As Giant Lords attacks go through blocking period.
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>>253982616
No it isn't. You can do an endless amount in a row with no problem.
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>>253982530
And a shittier moveset than kalameet.
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>>253982423
>>253982469
200 hours on PC at 60fps and not a single problem related to hitboxes, I guess you faggots are just lying to me.
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>>253976201
this
netcode is better but still not good
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>>253982690
With KB? Yes. With controller? Fuck you. Or they fixed it or you can't.
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>>253982543
>Using a two hander in Dark Souls 2
>Surprise motherfucker
>get parried with ease by faggot using a scimitar

ftfy
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>>253982481

>You're only safe if you raise your ADP to the point where you have enough iFrames, because really evading on this game does nothing unless you have that stat, which is BEYOND a deep retarded mechanic.

Maybe you should stop being shit at the game. I beat it numerous times with base ADP and unlike you I can actually consistently roll through. ADP gives you i-frames, and it's no different than raising endurance to roll faster(which gives more i-frames) or wearing the flip ring.

Hitboxes aren't about your invincibility frames, they're about how hits get registered despite not making contact.
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>>253982489
see
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>>253982493
Because PC had a rushed to 60 fps fix and now everything works like it's running twice as fast.

Most of the complaints about combat, hitboxes and timing are due to this problem that really needs to be fixed.

The DS2 kick is fucking glorious though, Unless the guy is an ultra tank, You're fucking staggering him with a backhand.
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>>253979052
And you can exploit them all.
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>>253982564
well if aldia's brother turned into a mutant monster dragon they it would make sense for him to be deformed or weird or at least interesting

ds2 doesnt have that "feel" demon and dark souls have
it doesnt have soul
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>>253982653
>60 fps
there's your problem anon. You have to limit the game to 30 fps for the hitboxes to work properly, just because From can't into programming
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>>253982808
What? There's literally no problem with it.
Are you really that bad that you can't do such a simple input? I really hope you never try to play a fighting game.
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>>253982371
anon, a story is not interesting because of its content (as humans have imagined everything they could by now) but how its told.

Your autism is showing, stop posting, DS1 and DeS1 lore is interesting in how its conveyed, interesting does not imply some revolution in story-telling which your so buttblasted in thinking people are claiming by implication.

>>253982336
When you first play the game, capra demon is a difficulty spike like maneater in DeS, he is literally the definition of the game fucking around with you.

There's a reason why theres so much fanart of capra demon being an intimidating asshole.
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>>253982821
>Most large weapons have Hyper armor on an attack.
>Parrying a knockback.

This isn't Dark souls 1 motherfucker.
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>>253982653
>>253982848
What are the chances there are manipulated? That never happened to me.
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>>253982489
see this
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>>253982870
And?

You're saying Dark Souls bosses were not exploitable as fuck?

You're saying Dark Souls 2 bosses were not exploitable?

All bosses were easy when handled. But Dark Souls 1 has the worst designs per boss.
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>>253976926
this is bate but... What do you think this has to do with bloodborne?

It's merely an example of why there's been a division of teams; one obviously withered on the vine while the other is establishing fresh roots.
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>>253982821
>parrying a twohanded ugs
O i am laffing
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>>253982926
bullshit, stop lying, the game works just fine at 60fps
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>>253982970
HURR DARK SOULS 2 IS SHIT BECAUSE ALL THE DIFFICULTY COMES FROM BULLSHIT GANGBANGS AND AMBUSHES
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>>253982726
What's your ADP?

I'm currently doing an SL1 run and it's a fucking nightmare.
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>>253982970
Except it's not interesting.

"Hurr I fucked ur mom, but I'm not gonna tell you directly just gonna leave you some clues"
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>>253982995
60 fps really fucked things over at the start.

Hell in >>253983041
if you guess the player moving at half speed you can see it would hit him.
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>>253982995
>What are the chances there are manipulated?
0

>>253982926
>hitboxes aren't broken
>they just don't work at 60fps
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>>253982670
who is the giant lords? do you mean the giant king? you can block his attacks, and his strategy is being in his legs, i think blocking is a bit more interesting them being under someones knutsack throughout an encounter.
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>>253982995
>i've never had cancer, therefore it doesn't exist
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Demon's Souls > Dark Souls > Dark Souls 2
fact
sorry
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>>253983104
>Hyper armor on UGS
>Zweihander uses the moveset of the UGS from Demon's souls.

I missed you friend. Let us slay 2kats together.
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>>253983206
Idk, hitboxes seem to work fine to me in the ps3 version
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>>253983251
>go between legs
>poison
>profit
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>>253977917
>GAME is great
>GAME 2 is also great, maybe even better, at this point the series gets really popular
>GAME 3 relased, it's actually worse then the other titles but due to the popularity it sells 50million times in the first week
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>>253982939
Oh, you play at 30fps then. ok.
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>>253983287

Close.

DeS>AotA>=DaS2>DaS
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>>253983260
>running into hitbox issues in DS2 is as likely as getting cancer
Glad we agree.
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>>253983157
Lower than 10 I guess, I never raised it because fuck it, been playing for 100 hours on a str melee build, currently at SL 169. Also I'm playing at 60fps so I don't know what the deal is with these hitboxes, I never encountered any problems.
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>>253983287
i wonder if bloodporn will have patches and the moonlight greatsword

i hope it doesnt look like shit like in the whole series except for ds1
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>>253982970
You just said that difficulty shouldn't matter when judging bossfights
And now Carpa Demon is "interesting" because he was a difficulty spike?

You are so full of shit it's unbelievable
I'm glad your faggy double standards kept you from enjoying Dark Souls 2 as much as I did.
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>>253982653
>>253982848
>>253983041
>magic
They deserved it
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>>253983362
I think he means shield strafing and attacking between animations like Dark Souls 1 did with a good 70% of it's bosses is better than dodging a giants big ass sword and footfalls.
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>>253983174
no the anon your replying too, but even i can see your being autistic.

>>253983138
If an encounters theme is around ambushes, then its fine, like if i was suddenly ambushed by ninja's hiding behind things, i'd be fine with that as an encounter.
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>>253983419
>DaS2
>better than anything
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>>253983407
No, man it's just forward + r1. What the fuck?
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>>253977917
Get a load of this clown thinking that he knows anything about FROM because he played Dark Souls.
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>>253983423
i dont get why they made the mimics so fucking shit
>lol lets add a mechanic where hitting on chests breaks them so you are always on edge about mimics
>lets also put only 3 mimics on the whole game

imo the first mimic could have been as early as no man's warf
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>>253983476
false, i said difficulty does not necessarily mean interesting, go and read my post, i typed that word for word.

So your just a fucking faggot who is trying to defend DaS2.

Go back to school kid.
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>>253983476
I think I have honestly found the reason.

Dark souls 2 is more like Demon's souls than it is Dark Souls.

I mean fuck, remember the bitching about the Drakekeeper who doesn't stop smashing if you block him?
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>>253983419
AotA and DaS are the same game mate
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>>253976926
Froms Software has made plenty of shitty games before you dumbass.
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>>253983587
Then I guess the hundreds of people who kicked perfectly on DkS1 and complain about this being broken in 2 is just they crippled their hands while waiting for the release
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>>253983676
But everything in DaS is garbage compared with AotA
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>>253983476
the anon said a fight being hard does not necessarily mean it is interesting, just as a fight being easy does not necessarily mean it is uninteresting.

Fuck your autistic.
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>>253983561


>base Dark Souls
>not the worst in terms of mechanics, pacing, bosses, atmosphere, and level design

The only reason it's praised so much is because of its vague lore and its connected world, which barely fucking matters considering they didn't give a shit whether the connections made sense or not.
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