Does this have any chance of being good, /v/?
Just downloaded Mother 3+English patch and about to dig in and noticed this was a thing.
Please stop making these threads with old concept art and shit, you are obviously just shitposting and trying to start something.
Like 90% of the people who watched that trailer said the opposite.
As far as what I think on it I really, really have to wait and see. I think they're putting a lot into it and they took out the fanfic tier people from being in charge.
>people seriously think the devs would use shit from when the game was absolute ass to look at
Do you see that logo anywhere on the website? No?
That exact image has been used to make so many shitposting threads.
Sorry. I really wasn't trying to shitpost. I just put "Mother 4" into google images and that came up. I honestly don't know anything about it outside of the fact that it's in development and is coming out at the end of the year.
Now, I'm pretty neutral on this fan game, my only complain is that I think they really should drop the Mother 4 title and adopt a subtitle, OR put a biiiig "THE FAN GAME" subtitle after Mother 4 because a lot of people are going to be confused. I know I was when I first saw a post here on /v/ with "Mother 4", my heart almost came out of my chest, then when I finally saw "fan game"..... yeah, I kind fo resent this game because of that fake hype moment.
However, I'm not gonna judge the game until it comes out.
HOWEVER, the game itself IS fanfiction. It's going to be fans doing fiction on an already existing IP, that is fanfiction in every way you look at it.
Even if it didn't turn out to be an absolute piece of crap, how could it be do anything different than what has already been done in the series? It looks like it's all driven by nostalgia and fan wankery instead of trying to really understand what made previous games in the series good. This is why most fan projects are doomed to fail when they're not C&D'd. You're better off just playing the official games instead of some fan-made nonsense.
I still need to play 3. The problem is that there's a good chance it would be like Itoi-lite. It might look like his game. Has a bit of his writing. But there will always be something in the back of your head that feels something is off. And that's just the best case.
>Please stop making these threads with old concept art and shit
It's not like people are going to just post in this thread without looking anything up, right?
I mean, who'd be so stupid to do that?
I don't think he's the only one. Some people just don't like the type of game.
I would like to know why becuase I thought it was extremely good. It's not excessively grindy, it has some humor and charm, the musical battle system is pretty fun especially with the crazy timed music later in the game, and the story is pretty emotional.
Wait, Nintendo made a Mother 4? Great, I can't wait to see how the story continues.
That is preciesely why I hate the fact that the developers called the game Mother 4. It's confusing, and disrespectful. They have some serious nerve to claim that their game is part of the main series.
Nobody's confused, man. They have it in the first ten seconds of the trailer and it's in the FAQ in big letters.
I get the exact opposite impression from Pastel on starmen.net, he's always like "no references" and shit, and talks at length about why certain things would be bad to include and the things he does talk about including sound really good.
Like he wouldn't let anybody give PSI ideas because of how every PSI fits a niche and is balanced out and additional offensive PSI just doing "reasonable damage" would be stupid and boring to deal with.
I think the best thing they can do is be self aware and instead of doing Itoi's Japanese view on American culture do an American view on Japanese culture thing, which is what it looks like based on Meryl and Leo's designs.
Honestly, how hard would it be to just called it Rock Candy Adventures or something as an homage. I can think of a hundred names related to Mother that would be better than calling it Mother 4, implying an official sequel.
>buh the devs know it's not
I don't care, if they love Mother as much as they claim they'd change it.
Or don't call it Mother 4 at least. Call it Mother Tribute.
>Actual Mother 4 comes out
>The fangame falls into obscurity
>People sometimes think the badness of it is related to an official product because of the name
>Actual chance of a real Mother 4 is undermined
ITOI: I’m not going to release a MOTHER 4; MOTHER is over now.
ITOI: The feeling of, “I want a MOTHER 4 to be released!” is inside me, too. Even if it’s not something I need to do, I still feel that way. Still, there isn’t someone for me to watch over from afar anymore. If there were a fourth game, I’d want to be the player.
The original Director, Produce, Lead Writer, etc. for Mother 4. The main protagonist use to be called Chase, it was clearly a self-inserted character.
The news post about him leaving isn't exactly true
They don't claim that anywhere. The only reason it's called that is because like a month after the Mother 3 translation came out there were a fucking billion Mother 4 fan games in the fan forum of Starmen.net and this game was one of them. it's the only one that's changed and developed though.
The guy who made the first thread. It was literally nothing but "Hehe the game is gonna be really good just wait it'll be better than earthbound :))" then his team kicked him out for being a self inserting chucklefuck.
It's a fan game trying to pass itself off as an official part of the series.
Think about it and you'll realize how fucking retarded the whole thing is. Plus the legality of it all is extremely questionable.
Itoi said that if Mother 4 was a thing, it would be by someone else because he was not going to make Mother 4. Motherfags being huge assburger zealots took his words literally.
He's not listed on the staff page, some new guy even newer than the guy that replaced Chase is doing all the writing and game design, and apparently cleaned everything up to high heaven, and he never posts in the forum.
Even if he still talks to them and makes a sprite here and there, he's not on the team. He obviously has no sway anymore, that's enough for me.
Wow this thread just attracted abunch of assuming assholes. Not very surprising, but still.
Now time to sit back and wait until someone posts that comic I made a long time ago when these threads started becoming a thing.
That's literally the opposite of true, though.
The reason it's called Mother 4 is in this post, right here:
This is why I hate threads like this, OP. The same people say the same shit for 210 posts (11 images).
>Itoi says Mother is over
>a bunch of retarded weeaboos take one line of a translated interview out of context to make it seem like Itoi was telling his fanbase to make the game anytime they feel like it
Well that was fast, even though it was an edited version.
It's a combination of piggybacking off another man's work, trying to associate yourself with them and making the claim of "Yes, this fangame I made for free is good enough to be considered part of the series."
What kind of true fan honestly thinks they can continue a series molded almost completely by one man's idea?
I like Star Wars but I wouldn't presume to be able to make a proper sequel
what kind of logic are you even sputtering? what does it mean if he says "I'd like to be the player" of a game he isn't going to make other than that someone else can make it?
also, you are legitimately this mad over a fangame. just mull that over
Almost everything had to be cleaned up, aside from some designs. That's how much of a parasite he was to the team despite starting it up.
Music sounds pretty swell
I don't care what a clusterfuck Star Wars is, I'm just saying that I don't presume that I could continue where someone left a 3 game series/film/book/whatever
>Watching someone play a RPG and thinking it's boring
RPG is more of a personal thing. It's not meant to be a pure action thing. It's meant to be taken slowly as you travel the world.
Jesus Christ. I'm so glad Chase is gone. Apparently the last guy was pretty bad too, considering they didn't release shit for years and years then suddenly Pastel comes on and there's a trailer and a release date.
Artists say a lot of ridiculous things all the time, doesn't mean you should take it out of context for some autistic fan game. You're legitimately this mad over my opinion, just mull that over
Why do people keep posting in these threads when it's just trolls posting bait to get replies?
I mean, the same exact thing is said in every thread, it's not even good bait, and if you really want to talk about the series, don't attempt to turn a troll thread into a legitimate one.
>Nobody's confused, man.
I was at first. And many people who won't bother to check out the trailer and just see "Mother 4" casually will believe there's a Mother 4 out. I really think it's not a good idea, but whatever, I know I will be called a hater or stuff. I'm not against this fan game being made, but I think the title should be something else.
uh.... and? Itoi also said Mother 4 could be a theatre play, Animal Crossing or even the lives of all the people who played the Mother series.
I think the whole "I'd want to be the player" is more his subtle way of saying "I'm done developing games for now, it's too stressful", he always complained about how stressful it was to develop games, even though he enjoyed the experience.
He also didn't say "hey, fans, make a game".
But anyway, I don't think Itoi would give a fuck about this fangame (now, Nintendo the company, not so sure), but that's not the point, the point is that Itoi says many things, the whole "but he said he wants to be the player for Mother 4" doesn't serve as an excuse to call a fan game "mother 4".
disclaimer: just in case, and again, because I know the devs/friends of the devs of Mother 4 fan game browse /v/, and some other apologists always jump defending them, I'm NOT against this fan game being made, I simply don't like the title. And I have my reasons as I explained, but whatever, they won't change the name it seems.
Only posted it cause you mentioned it.
I'm going to, my entire point was that I think it's really pretentious and kind of backwardly against the idea of Mother. Itoi makes Mother what it is. I don't think that anyone other than a close writer/creator to Mother could make a true sequel.
>I think the best thing they can do is be self aware and instead of doing Itoi's Japanese view on American culture do an American view on Japanese culture thing, which is what it looks like based on Meryl and Leo's designs.
That's a good idea, but that's just even more of a reason not to call it Mother 4. Mother is a Japanese series full of American pop cultures references from a Japanese perspective.
Even then, the series still draws heavily from Itoi's own life experiences. Without him it's impossible to completely capture the spirit of the series.
This is how I feel. When I read what the director says on Starmen.net it has even more potential. Grant Kirkhope even tweeted about the game, apparently he's making music for it.
Like the legitimate Grant fucking Kirkhope, not a joke twitter account.
Maybe it's just because I can relate to the brotherly bond between Claus and Lucas, while we're not twins I can still feel for them.
And you can't tell me you didn't almost feel sort of bad for Porky. The dude tried to end the fucking world because Ness didn't want to be his friend because he was such a huge shit eating asshole.
So I keep hearing about this game (on /v/ and other forums and even in pop culture shows like robot chicken)
So what kinda game is it? Story game? Gameplay game? Also do you have to play Mother 1 and 2 before playing 3?
Earthbound was written entirely by a different guy. Most of Mother 2's text is heavily culturally contexted, so the writing in Earthbound is almost entirely original. Take that how you will.
Why is this so hard for people to understand? Mother is nothing without Itoi's heart. I'm astonished that people are ok with this but DAN HOUSER WROTE MAX PAYNE 3 STOP THE PRESSES CAN'T HAVE ANY MAX PAYNE THREADS ANYMORE WITHOUT HEARING ABOUT IT AGUAHGUAGHA
Don't worry, the difference between Star Wars and Mother is that Mother ended where it should and I'm just going to enjoy Mother 4 as it's own thing, regardless, George Lucas milked Star Wars as much as he could, and dumped the Prequels because money.
It's a JRPG with a whimsical yet dark story. The combat is similar to any other JRPG but it has a rhythmic element to it and wacky abilities and stuff. Also rolling health is really nice. You don't have to play Mother 2 or 3 before it but it might help you get some references/characters.
It is a turn based RPG series widely regarded for having a lot of charm to it. While id say Earthbound is a fun ride I wouldn't consider it to be that fun of a game, a lot of it feels pretty dated, especially the inventory system. The same applies to mother except it is more dated. Mother 3 on the other hand feels a lot more polished from a gameplay standpoint. The same applies to Mother, except All are pretty good but Earthbound and Mother 1 kind of suffer from a gameplay standpoint where as Mother 3 doesn't
Look at it this way: not everybody is a die hard Mother fan, maybe some people will look at OP's pic, not bother entering the thread/watching the trailer, and they will believe there's a Mother 4 coming out, because there's no indication anywhere in OP's post that it is a fan game. I know it's outdated picture, but most of the Mother 4 promotional stuff I've seen barely says "the fan game", or they make the "fan game" subtitle way too little, it should be way more clear that this is not an official release. Because again, not everybody is a die hard Mother fan, many people might casually look a pics of it and think it's a real official game, which COULD lead to further confusion and misinformation, broken telephone-style.
I know, nobody is gonna die because of this, and it won't really affect the series in any way, but yes, it will cause confusion. And that's not cool.
See, I'm with you there completely except the name. Every time I see the name it throws me off completely. It's pretentious. I don't see why they just couldn't call it Mother: Rock Candy or Mother Tribute or something similar. I'd be fine with the game if the name was different.
Maybe it's to my only child syndrome kicking in. I'll definitely give you Porky though - he was a fantastically well done villain and his eventual fate was disturbing and satisfying.
I'm not sure why everyone is so damn angry over this.
for one it's a fan-game, people are taking time out of there lives to devote it to this game that has no real benefit for them, it's totally free so they aren't making money off it.
Itoi stated the following
>ITOI: I’m not going to release a MOTHER 4; MOTHER is over now.
>ITOI: The feeling of, “I want a MOTHER 4 to be released!” is inside me, too. Even if it’s not something I need to do, I still feel that way. Still, there isn’t someone for me to watch over from afar anymore. If there were a fourth game, I’d want to be the player
And you say
>It's pretentious and disrespectful!
I'll believe you when they start saying things like "This is better than anything itoi shat out." and only chase said anything even akin to this and look what happened to him.
another thing, people claim that making this game is taking what itoi said out of context.
>ITOI: The feeling of, “I want a MOTHER 4 to be released!” is inside me, too. Even if it’s not something I need to do, I still feel that way. Still, there isn’t someone for me to watch over from afar anymore. If there were a fourth game, I’d want to be the player.
What other context is there for that?
Look all i'm saying is this thread is really showing /v/ bitter jadedness.
That's what I'm saying though. There's no confusion anywhere except this thread. No Youtube comments, no comments anywhere, no threads on /v/, no news articles...
Scratch that last part. It was on Kotaku's front page for a month or something and not one person thought it was an official game. It's on their website's FAQ, Nintendo has said nothing about it... it is literally impossible to make that assumption if you do the most basic research, like looking for more images.
Some people aren't die-hard fans and won't do that. But they may tell their smash bros buddies "hey you heard? they're making a new Mother, those games where Ness is from".
Yes, people is stupid, but we can make things to prevent said stupidity from spreading around. For example, naming a fan0made game accordingly instead of calling it as if it was an official release.
It's not really that big of a deal. Again, I'm OK with this game being made, I just ask for a title that suits the project better. I don't like it being called "Mother 4".
Jesus Christ. You do not have to be a die-hard fan to google something.
There's also the fact that Itoi said, when he compared Animal Crossing to being Mother 4, that if a game was Mother 4 no matter how you look at it you might as well use the title.
The pretentious name really kills it. Call me vain if you want but if Itoi isn't involved, I don't see why a subtitle wouldn't be acceptable.
Mother: Another Story
Mother: Rock Candy Chronicles - A fan story
Seems like if the devs really respected Itoi and the franchise they'd take the effort to make a new name. And why not? Because then the mod wouldn't be as successful without the Mother name? That's shady imo
I want to fuck Meryl. I hope she's got a Paula thing with Travis so I can self insert.
Only faggots think that only one person has the ability to understand or create a particular experience.
You guys are literally no better than SJWs. You throw around shit without any facts to back them up because that's how you "feel".
It's obviously called Mother 4 because the creator expressly stated he would not make a 4th and invited the fans to do so.
This is a tribute to the creator and a continuing of the series for the fans.
Maybe you should stop shitting on it until it actually comes out you pretentious faggots.
>Jesus Christ. You do not have to be a die-hard fan to google something.
I know, I meant that some people will just not bother checking out the source and just assume Mother 4 is an official game, and misinform other people, but whatever, I don't think it'll really happen anyway. But some people out there WILL be confused, however, as you said, it's mostly their own problem.... could be prevented by simply naming the fan-game accordingly as I said though. Mother 4 is not a fan-game appropiate game.
>There's also the fact that Itoi said, when he compared Animal Crossing to being Mother 4, that if a game was Mother 4 no matter how you look at it you might as well use the title.
Link? I remember the Animal Crossing part, but not the title part. At any rate I don't think he ever mentioned a fan game, in any of his interviews, ever.
What if that's what the actual story is like?
What if there is a point to calling it Mother 4?
What if, and this is a hard concept, they aren't being disrespectful pretentious fucks and are just keeping the name because that's how it started?
>I decided not to read things but I'm still going to blame others for my lack of knowledge.
>Other people might be retarded like me so it becomes someone else's fault because I didn't want to read.
You are the cancer killing games. You are the reason every developer feels like they need to spoon feed you faggots.
You should really end your life. Tonight. Violently.
IT'S A TRANSLATION YOU FUCKTARD!
>I’ve gone through that discussion between Itoi and Iwata that was in the BRUTUS magazine the other day. Here’s a rough translation of it, as usual it’s sometimes kind of hard to pin Itoi’s thoughts down into something that makes sense, but it should get his basic ideas across.
LOL, why are you so angry? Are you the dev of Mother 4?
I was confused for a moment, and it was the first time I saw a Mother 4 thread here on /v/ (this was years ago... 2010 or so, I think), I was like "WHAT!!!", then I clicked on the site, read "fan game", and flipped the table.
My confusion didn't last more than a few seconds, but it was indeed very annoying.
>I tried watching some fag play Earthbound
>It was honestly boring as shit
Do you even know what an RPG is?
It's not about the action and flashiness of what's going on screen, but it's more about the personal connection between the player and the character itself.
The combat is more based on number crunching and possibility tweaking. Upgrading, exploring and uncovering parts of the world and experiencing the quirky facets of the story and characters are mostly the charm and incentive that drives the player to go through.
You're not going to get the same experience as you would actually playing it for yourself.
If you're interested in a game, play it. Don't watch some faghole play it.
If it's not for you, look elsewhere.
The fan game killed the Mother threads forever.
there is noone to blame. both supporters of the game and the haters are all to blame, not just one side.
Fuck you all for ruining the magnificent Mother threads we used to have back in 2008/2009.
A fan game isn't related. A fan sequel implies connection to other games/characters and progressing the Mother timeline
A fan game would have nothing to do with the Mother story, it'd just look like a Mother game with some decent music
Mother threads are dead.
Your last chance is /vr/, both Mother 3 and the fan game would be forbidden from discussion because of not being retro. But you might slip some Mother 3 discussion if the thread is going well, just don't mention the fan game.
>All that music
Honestly, it all sounds like shit.
Half baked melodies and a lack of atmosphere.
The Music of Mother 4 Videos had VERY good music I'd love to listen to in full. All the shit on here is pretty dull and spacious.
I mean, the remixes have better composition but that's because they're remixes of good songs.
What happened to the drop in quality between the teased music and tha actual Soundcloud music?
No they didn't. Where have you been? We've had three successful Mother threads just today, and a couple days ago one hit bump limit and was about Mother 4 in the later half and there was none of this shit flinging.
Somebody in the thread put it best:
>Mother 4 discussion in Mother threads works.
>Threads about Mother 4 are shitposting.
Once upon a time, you killed yourself and I lived happily ever after.
People still talk about the Illiad*. You can't really exhaust all avenues of discussion with something, especially if a lot of people like it.
*I am not implying anything in the Mother series even compares to the Illiad.
Even if the Illiad is just a case study in classicist masturbation that holds no real value to the modern reader.
There's 3 games and one was only fairly recently translated for us gaijin. The (relatively) recent buzz from Mother 3's translation and Lucas in Brawl drew a lot of new fans in.
I don't know, I'm not on 4chan 24/7, but the times I've seen Mother 4 discussion, it was ALWAYS shitposting (and not only from the haters, but also from the apologists, who honestly are also very rude and pretentious, they're as annoying as the people who think Nintendo should C&D the fangame, which is also rude and unfair).
In my experience, Mother 4 always ruins Mother threads, and it's not really a thing of who's right or who's wrong, the behavior of both sides is wrong. It's really a shame.
>tfw you beat Mother 3 a week ago and you're going through Earthbound right now, and you really want to talk about it because you like the games
Sorry for invalidating your argument, anon.
Well... you made me feel a bit guilty, I admit. I'm one of those who defend the fan game because I think assholes who complain about "muh itoi" are just stupid, the fan game looks like it's being made with a lot of love and effort, but putting it like you did... I guess you're right, I'm also part of the shitposting.
I will stop now.
>Itoi is never going to make a new Mother game
>Nintendo is very unlikely to make one either
With all of the negative attention this game has gotten due to its name I would expect that multiple people have probably already reported it to Nintendo in the hopes of it getting bombed with a Cease & Desist order.
That hasn't happened yet. Nintendo clearly doesn't give a shit and neither should you. But if it matters to you that much you should probably send Nintendo an email too, the worst that's gonna happen is that they'll have to change the name and drop all the textual references to Mother.
Would it redeem it for you if at some point Itoi gave the game his blessing?
he'd probably find it touching that people cared enough to put that much time and effort into not just making the game but translating it so people like him could play it
seriously the guy is a sentimental dude
Yeah actually. A name change or Itoi's blessings would do wonders for me.
I guess that's why people are reaching so hard at that one badly translated line in that one interview being cited in the thread.
>Presenting itself as official
They fucking aren't.
The only place they get negative attention is /v/, which has been sending emails to Nintendo's legal department for years over it. They do not care one bit.
>FAQ: Is this official?
>Mother 4 is a fan-made addition to the cult-classic series Mother. We are NOT affiliated, associated, authorized, endorsed by, or in any way officially connected with Nintendo of America Inc., Shigesato Itoi, HAL Laboratory, Inc., or any of its subsidiaries or its affiliates.
The name itself makes it sound official. It sounds like a direct sequel.
And what if, like all fucking artists, Itoi changes his mind or made plans since that old interview? Kojima wasn't going to make any more MGS but here we are with MGS fucking V
I'm going to make a car, it'll be called the "Buick Grand National." No relationship to the actual National, I don't know why everyone thinks Buick made this one. It's not my fault.
>fan made addition
What is this supposed to mean? It's an addition to 3? It's a spin off of a character from Mother? Another reason that almost any name they could have picked would have been better
>it was ALWAYS shitposting (and not only from the haters, but also from the apologists
The apologists for Mother 4 are just as cancerous as the people who overreact over the game title.
it's just a fucking fangame, WHATEVER.
I also hate how this shit ruined every Mother thread.
>The only place they get negative attention is /v/
Really? No other Earthbound/Mother fans are insulted by it, like at Starman.net or wherever? I find that hard to believe.
I'm surprised that no one has gotten in contact with Itoi directly about the matter too, honestly. All that's brought up about him and Mother 4 is that old-as-dirt interview. I assume he's an old traditional dude that doesn't bother with the internet so he must be hard to get a hold of.
Well then they'd probably change the name. The only reason they're calling it Mother 4 is because Itoi and/or Nintendo aren't bothering to make one.
>I assume he's an old traditional dude that doesn't bother with the internet so he must be hard to get a hold of.
do you know anything at all about the man? he's been posting on his website daily for 16 years
You know the woman in the elevator in the Montoli building?
Is there any porn of her?
>do you know anything at all about the man?
No, admittedly I don't, I didn't know that he posts online at least. Is there any reason no one has asked him the question "what do you think about the fangame Mother 4?"
I wish someone would make a good Sonic fan game and call it Sonic 4. The official Sonic 4 is awful.
he probably doesn't know and probably wouldn't mind. he's on good terms with people in the American fanbase, some people from Starmen.net even worked for him and he watched their stream of EB on virtual console
Nobody cares anyway, they're too busy defending their own position, insulting the one who things different than them, instead of realizing they're completely ruining the Mother threads on /v/, who used to be awesome.
Anyway, as another anon said, we still have /vr/, good Mother discussion is possible there from time to time outside of the occassional "Earthbound is overrated". /vr/ also appreciates Mother 1 a lot more.
Guys, I'm going to make a sequel to Mother 3. It's going to be about, uh, the environment, and uh, growing up. It'll be really quirky and some really emotional parts that'll make you think. OH, and love's going to be a theme. Yeah.
Hope you don't mind, I'm just going to name the main character after myself. This's also my first game and I have no other experience, so please get really hype
You may now suck my penis
Listen, shut up for a second. All of you, shut up.
Why are you so defensive? This is a question for both sides. Don't answer, because the answer is you love the Mother series. The people who hate the project don't want it to be tarnished, they love the series so much they can't see anything coming close and it's understandable. Who are these people, where did they come from, why are they calling it Mother 4? What kind of disrespect is that? The people who like the game want to play more Mother games. You like the world, these people seem like they might be able to give you more of that world. They might have cool ideas, the characters might be fun.
I get that.
If they didn't care, they'd still use the old graphics, Chase would still be on the team and still be acting like Itoi. They love the series too and I think they're trying to give back or give something new. I don't know. The devs are fans like us. Maybe they get emails from people that are excited... I don't know.
I just hate seeing this game break up a fan base when both sides are arguing from the same place. Will it be good? I have no way to judge that right now, and neither does anybody else. Yelling at one another and insulting one another doesn't do anything good for anybody.
Can we please stop?
Nope, it's not from the mind of Kojima. It'd be completely different than what you wanted or expected.
Uh.. yes? Professional chefs don't want you anywhere near their perfectly crafted meals and have hand picked and close chefs make their desserts for them so it fits the three course meal.
This. They're obviously doing it out of love for the series. It would be way more insulting if they made some shitty "spiritual successor" like LISA and thought they could really one up Itoi just by putting jokes in the game and sold it.
Just a thought but, what if it actually ends up as a fun game to play?
I have a feeling that a lot of the people bitching about the whole "4" thing don't actually give a shit either way.
The same bullshit has been parroted for ages, and given how people on /v/ generally act, I can't help but think that a lot of these people are just fishing for replies and not much else.
Shit, I'm sorry. I feel bad for insulting my brothers who love their Mothers. The title irks me, but pissing all over everything isn't fair, especially not pissing over people who want it to be good. I'm sorry, /v/.
Why can't this game have a non official sounding name like Cognitive Dissonance or Rock Candy like that album? I think it's because they'd lose popularity and no one would bother playing the game, which is where I think the shadiness of the games suggestive titles comes in.
>h-h-he didn't mean it like THAT!
Oh woops I've been beaten.
Why do nintendrones become like ACfag when it comes to some games? Become super butthurt at something that you autistically repeat the same thing every thread and make demands the devs won't hear?
Yea well, hindsight is a bitch. Like I said, they don't want to lose the hype they've built up by choosing the direct sequel name. I understand it, but that doesn't mean I have to appreciate it
Stop. We're part of the same fan community, we like the same video games. We don't need to insult one another.
Here, remember this song?
I like this song.
The name "Mother Forever" was posted in a thread that a dev was in a while back.
He said something along the lines of what >>253842772 said, but if I remember correctly, he thought the name was pretty good.
>some of the old writers who wanted to put memes in the game were kicked from the team
Now I'm hyped.
This happened a good while back before that teaser got thrown up.
He posted a clean gif of the PK Beam that would show up in the teaser later.
Plus this >>253843425 .
Seemed pretty damn legit.
Another concern of mine is the music, since it's such a huge part of Mother. I don't really like what I've heard so far from Mother 4. I suppose I'll try it when it comes out but I'm still very skeptical
This looks cool, I'll give it a play when it's done.
Maybe Nintendo will realize how there's a small but active fanbase and even make their own. Then we have TWO Mother 4s. That's better than one.
I might be a little hype.
Nope, those were the only ones posted here.
These were posted elsewhere.
Each character has an individual level up jingle. If multiple characters level up at the same time, the jingles fit together.
I'm not saying it is technically impressive by any means, but I still think it is a neat little idea that I haven't seen done before.
This is sort of a wait and see thing due to the nature of video games.
A song can be catchy as fuck, but it can still not really mesh with the scene or stage being presented.
This is why Mother has the most chill fanbase.
There are other communities that aren't as harsh as /v/ and who won't criticise your opinions man, I think you would really benefit from leaving here, since people like you not only suffer, but also make the community worse due to the self-loathing faggotry. Please, leave.
They're all amateurs and no matter how you look at it, the fan game is fanfiction, if they were more mature and serious about making games, they'd make an original game, not a fangame sequel to a japanese game.
Also, as proven in this very thread, they browse /v/.
>Self inserts and denies it, compares himself to Itoi, says Mother 4 will be better than Mother 3, literally still in high school
>Lofty, vague, ideas-guy tier shit with huge periods of nothing being said about the game ever
>Made a trailer, got a website, talks about game design, gave release date, who the fuck is he
I'm only a casual observer but I think it's obvious that
he will probably write better fan fiction than the other ones
>not being Team Pokey
Whatever, I'm tryna get money, material wealth, and live forever. Screw those meddling brats
The entire game is about him screwing you over. I'd get used to it.
>he thinks pokey is going to get comeuppance
Oh man, I wish I was still this innocent
He gets trapped inside a capsule that is impossible to escape. He is thought to be immortal after all his time travel shenanigans. Imagine an eternity with just yourself in a small room.
If you are a team member, shut the fuck up.
If you aren't a team member, shut the fuck up.
Nobody wants to hear spoilers, nobody wants to hear team drama, nobody wants to give you attention whore bullshit.
ha! good guess, but no
It's not my intention to spoil the project, I definitely know a lot of people have concerns and questions about this project and I'm not happy with the team's level of secrecy
Done, but only because I don't want to be a total asshole to the development team. It's not a huge deal, though because
you see him incredibly early and he's the clear leader. In all honesty, it's an incredibly minor spoiler.
What makes you all such pretentious faggots to call it mother 4?
Leave this thread and never come back. You're worse than Pokey.
I don't want minor spoilers. I want to play this game brand new. I don't want you to tell me the villain's name even if I meet him early. I don't want to know that I meet the villain early.
Personally, I'm pretty hyped.
The sprite work looks even better than Mother 3's and they seem to have managed to retain Itoi's unique sense of humor, to an extent.
I don't even have an issue with it being named "Mother 4" since it's pretty obvious that an actual Mother 4 is never going to be made.
Cool, I guess nobody wants to know if the game is any good or needs to be reassured about quality standards.
Personally I do not approve of the name.
It was fun but I can clearly see I'm not wanted here. Sorry to spoil what I did for the people wanting to jump in fresh.
Lets get this shit started
>extrapolating an interview out of context to make a numbered sequel in an auteur driven series.
It actually looks really good, and fun.
I can some up the entire thread in just one post.
>Waaaah, I'm an entitled pretensions faggot! C&D!!! C&D!!!
Unless this this thread somehow turned out to be decent for once, that would be new for the mother fanbase.
>Has anything like that happened lately?
The shitposters drove them off pretty quick even if most of the time they just posted pictures and answered questions about their games.
/v/ is fucking awful and the mother fanbase who is protesting this is one of the reasons.
At least we know who the butthurt assmaster is in all of these threads.
>ex dev leaves the team
>doesn't like the title
>tries to spoil shit
>everybody tells him to leave
>shitposting reboots at 10 times previous velocity
I think this thread went full retard when people pretended that a game that piggybacks off the success of something actually creative and original would be anything but a masturbatory fanfic.
>I only want a mother 4 from ITOI
>Fan games are the worst!
>I wont accept ANYTHING less than an official Itoi Mother game even if a fan game is the best thing we've got since the mother 3 translation
Yes, they're entitled as shit.
Read the things he posted. He came in acting like a cool guy, spoiled shit, then acted like /v/ was wrong for getting angry. If he just wanted to talk maybe he should have thought it through a little better
>complain about entitlement
>WAAAAAAAAAAAH WHY WONT EVERYONE CIRCLEJERK OVER MUH FAN GAME IN A CREATOR DRIVEN FRANCHISE
Guy who left the team comes in, says "ask me anything" then spoils who the main villain is and when people call him out on it he acts like he's entitled to do that because he doesn't like that the dev team isn't posting about the game.
Then he leaves with a passive aggressive non apology.
Incidentally, as soon as /v/ started blasting his shit the shitposting and insulting at the game came back full swing.
Then babies who actually support this game had bitch fit when he tried to give some insight into the developmental process. Pretty embarrassing for all parties involved if you ask me.
>Creator Driven franchise
Hahhahahaha, couldn't help but go full retard, could you?
>Mother 3 was barely made by Itoi, only supervised, even then it was just him giving greenlights.
>HE outright said he wanted to see someone else make Mother 4.
Mother was never that good. The gameplay is a pretty standard Dragon Quest clone. The only thing that made the games excedingly good was the charm, the characters, the graphics, etc, and it all came form Itoi. Nobody else can make a Mother game. It's why Nintendo respects that and wants the series to just stay dead. And it's why this fangame will be shit.
In fact, everybody fucking see >>253841310
We are all fans of the Mother series, so are the devs. Nobody is being malicious except shit posters who don't deserve your replies.
>Best friend named Travis
>Had Brown hair and Green eyes
>He's dead now.
When I first read about the fangame I was very disappointed when it seemed to be a fanfiction-self inseting-tier game. Now it seems they might be on something.
I am even starting to like the music
too bad about the spoiler earlier in the thread
I'll wait to see how this ends
OK, I'll make Mother 4. It's about a boy that goes on a wacky journey and makes some quirky friends and finds the bad guy and kills the bad guy and it gets really emotional and gives you 'feels'. And there's some really, really deep themes.
Wanna come to my house and blow me now, or after dinner?
Sure thing, bro. Let me whip out my RPGmaker skills and tweak a couple of the mother 3 sprites. Also gimme 5 minutes to make my deep original characters. There, all done! Open wide bro, and don't forget to defend my game for me against the big bads on the net!
nigger please, wanting a sequel to a beloved series made by the person who created said series is not entitled at all, you fucking parrot
>anon is entitled because he'd rather have a devil may cry made by kamiya than some bong twat that couldn't write a fucking post-it and thinks self-inserts are cool
>entitled because you prefer the originator of the source material to create the game rather than a bunch of nobodies that think liking the series is enough qualification to make a sequel on the originator's behalf, despite the fact that they have no clue what the creator's intentions for the series are and will likely do a piss poor job desperately trying to emulate what they personally think he's on about
yeah, nah, you're a cunt
Holy shit, how autistic can you be!?
The people hating on it are just retarded shitposters. They literally haven't presented an argument worth a fucking shit
>I only want Itoi to make it!
Itoi said he wanted to see a mother game made by someone else, he had minimal involvement in 3.
>HE DIDN'T SAY A FAN GAME!!
He didn't say an official game either, stop putting words in his mouth.
>It's COCKY to name your game Mother 3
And it's somehow less cocky when games like Final Fantasy do it on a yearly basis?
>B-but I DON'T LIKE IT!!!
That's your opinion obviously someone does otherwise you wouldn't have so many calling you out.
Also literally all of their game related problems have been addressed as the former creator left, the game has since been rebooted in C++ and it no longer resembles the first project.
There is literally no reason to be so angry at this besides the fact that you're an autist.
How do you know he was right and things hadn't changed since then? What if they thought throwing the villain at you right away was a bad idea, or the guy didn't understand the story? What if it was a bigger spoiler than you thought? As soon as you see that guy in game, you know he's the villain.
He's literally said "No more Mother from me. I'm fucking done. Seriously, not even being vague, guys. Case fucking closed. Stop bothering me, I have poetry to write".
Bad move coming from that guy, but no for that we will beblaming on the other devs who are quiet about the game
I´ve been playing mother 3 again, and I just forgot to get the shield snatcher ;_;
It is when the creator said didn't even make the 3rd game, and outright said he didn't want to make the 4th.
Yet HE MUST make it because YOU want him to.
That's the definition of entitled.Forcing other people to accommodate you because you think you deserve it, regardless of if you actually do deserve it or not.
Whining about a fangame isn't going to make him come back. Hell, if he sees how malicious you guys are getting I'd dare say it would turn him off the series.
Fuck off. I hate the game because the devs think they're hot shit and can make a Mother game just like Itoi did, hell they even named the game "Mother 4" like it could have the same quality as the real games. Seriously fuck these people.
This. It would make the whole thing less insulting to the Mother series.
Those are all pretty shit, Original Dota isn't really a fangame, and Mario hacks are, well hacks, and generally pretty bad.
You guys could have said Megaman 7 and 8 FC and I'd have taken that
Look at the thread after. It's literally just trolls and like one or two autistic people and maybe an ex team member.
Meanwhile: Hey, guys? I know coming up with witty banter and insults is fun, but please don't. /v/ doesn't need to be this hostile.
These threads, like the rest of /v/, fluctuate wildly between somewhat decent to catastrophic, rampant shitposting.
The unfortunate truth is that a lot of people aren't here to talk about games, they are here to stir up shit because they can.
Original Dota is a Warcraft fangame, anon.
You know what else is a fan game? Portal, L4, Team fortress, and CSGo
You know what other "official" games are made by someone not their original creator?
Mario, Final Fantasy, Donkey Kong Country, CoD, and many, many more games.
But you know what? No one EVER complains about the people making them, they critisize the product themselves, with facts. They fdon't spout opinionated nonsense, and through around "soulless" like it means something.
No, without the hostility were a better place.
Reddit is hostile as fuck they just don't show it. They downvote. Current /v/ is what happens when redditors don't have the ability to downvote opinions they don't like. They spurg out and shitpost.
Nuh uh, the creator gave me permission to continue his series. It's my god given right as a Mother fan to name my game Mother 4. It'll have the same quality as the other games, I swear!
>That's the definition of entitled
>you actually do deserve it
>dat hyperbole tho
I didn't say half of that, you're letting your imagination run wild. Also, you could really do with a dictionary, because that is most definitely not the definition of 'entitled'.
He may not have had a heavy hand in the third title, but it was made by competent devs that he obviously trusted to do right by his creation, not a bunch of twats who thinking being a fan gives you the right to determine the outcome of a series. If he's done working on it, let it fucking die. It doesn't belong to you, or me. We're fans of it, and that's where it stops. But, this is why fanbases are absolute shit, because most of you can't just leave well enough alone, you have to make a spectacle of every goddamn thing. It's embarrassing, and why I don't associate with liking particular things, even when I do, because my peers are so juvenile with regards to their inability to accept the state of things. There are more series than I care to admit that have been utterly shit on by people who claim to like the material, who then do their utmost to make sure the mere mention of said material is enough to know that person is likely mentally ill in some capcity or another due to the sheer ferocity of the fanbase. Castlevania, Metal Gear is a great example, Mega Man, too. They're numerous, and depressing. Fuck fans.
Why should they give a shit?
Its not like the autists that are getting buttflustered about it are going to hurt anything like sales.
It is a fucking fan game, who gives a fuck?
Jesus christ, people.
>Those are all mods.
They're games, made by fans.
CSGo literally started as a half life fan gaiden game. A lot of old source mods have.
>When you modify an existing game that's not a fangame.
Except it is.
They run on the same engine. that's about it.
>I didn't say half of that
You did. You implied that they haven't a right to make mother 4 because it insults Itoi, which implies itoi doesn't condone it (Even though the previous and oft mentioned quote implies he does) which means the ONLY reason you find offence to the title because you hold a vain and rather retarded hope that Itoi will make 4.
You do realize that 3 was barely his at all and it's the best game in the franchise?
The devs aren't condescending anybody, they aren't fellating themselves with the title, they aren't shitting on Itoi, they aren't being malicious, they aren't suggesting that they can make something as good as Itoi (and have said so before that they don't expect that), they don't have any intention of making an official game. It is a fan sequel. That's the only reason for the title
>BUT ITS ARROGANT TO ASSUME
Stop. They aren't assuming anything - you are. you are projecting your own impressions of the dev team onto their motivation for making the game, when all they are doing is making a fan game.
This needs to stop. The title probably won't get changed, subtitles all sound like shit, and your constant shitting on the name doesn't just kill Mother 4 discussion - it kills Mother discussion.
Like it or not, there are a few hundred thousand people (based just on the youtube video) who are excited for the game and somebody will at some point bring it up and it's not fair to the people who want to discuss it to derail threads like this.
You know, I always thought that the ending of Mother 3 being left open for interpretation always meant that it was left up for the player to imagine what comes next.
These people just took it a step further and made a game. I think that's pretty cute of them.
IT IS a problem when it splits the entire fanbase of autististic fans this game is geared torwards. This thread wouldn't be happening if it wasn't called Mother 4. Just rename it and problem solved.
This thread wouldn't be happening like it is if people didn't insult one another and escalate things. OP just wanted to talk about a game he didn't know anything about, then look at what happened.
No, it isn't the name's fault, the name didn't type out paragraphs calling people autistic faggots, the name didn't fuck your mom, you did.
>IT IS a problem when it splits the entire fanbase of autististic fans this game is geared torwards.
No it's splitting the fanbase because one side is literally autistic and take offense to any minor thing and the other just want to enjoy the series for what it was and what it is.
This thread would still be happening because /v/ is a steaming pile of shit and passive idiots like you are a part of the problem.
The game doesn't effect anything in the series. Why are you people whining so much?
I really hope that the game comes out and lives up to the standards of the Mother series so much that Itoi sits down to play it through with a smile on his face the whole time. That'd be really cool.
But I didn't, feel free to keep making shit up to fit your lousy narrative, though.
>that Itoi will make 4.
I guess you didn't read any of the spoiler text, because if you had, you'd know I didn't say, or even think any of that. Again, with the imagination.
>opinions are now facts
Now you're just being completely ridiculous. It's fine to think or even consider 3 the best, personally, but you do realize you don't speak for everyone, right? Right..? In any case, I'm out. There are far too many mentally challenged posters here for me to continue wasting my time deferring imaginary slights to people white knighting a fangame's dev team.
Again, you all are precisely why fanbases are utter shit. There's never been any such thing as a good fanbase, and this thread is proof positive. Congratulations!
Confirmed for not knowing shit about pixel art.
Look at the structures of the face and bodies.
Some characters have noses, the tops of the heads are generally larger, the arms are generally larger, the legs are thinner and tend to be apart rather than joined at the middle, the sprite perspective is slightly more top-down, let alone the amount of colors used per sprite, there are so many fucking differences that it's incredibly you honestly think they are Mother 3 sprite edits.
No it isn't a problem.
Autists rage when their crayons are out of order.
>This thread wouldn't be happening like it is if people didn't insult one another and escalate things.
This is /v/ you fucking idiot. That is like a staple here, pretending that this is exclusive to these threads is even more retarded than people who take offense to the name.
No, the autists complaining about the name did.
Yes it would be.
At this point in time, no one is sure how good the game will be, but the release is soon, and as it is a free download and I lose hardly anything giving it a try, I will play it a formulate my opinion then.
>But I didn't,
You did, anon.
>I guess you didn't read any of the spoiler text
Why would I read a giant FF.net tier paragraph of a raging s
>>Now you're just being completely ridiculous.
Lets ignore the fact that even on an objective level it's better.
>More detailed style
>More in depth combat
>Longer completion rate
>More side items
That's really swell of you anon. I like that. I wish more people could think the same as you.
I don't have an opinion of it either way, except for the things I've seen of it so far.
I thought the trailer was nice, the level up jingles were amazing, and I think the graphics are pretty true to the original games.
I hope it turns out to be a really good game.
Holy shit, anon.
You can't talk about games on /v/
This isn't about culture or anything, this is about the simple fact that v/ is an awful place filled with awful people who don't want ANYONE to enjoy things they like.
I JUST got out of a Xenoblade thread where everyone called the game shit with vague comments and would never give anything concrete as to WHY it's bad
You can't have a mario or a metroid thread anymore.
You can't talk about FPSs or Mobas.
You can't talk about popular games, or obscure games.
There is always THAT or THOSE faggots in every thread.
This isn't just a Moth problem.
Porting from Game Maker to C++ is fairly straight forward, to be honest I don't think they ever even had a game when it was on RPG Maker or Game Maker. Porting to C++ to C# (where they are now) is pretty simple, just some API things change
No they wouldn't.
They already made the sprites, the battle engine was already mostly developed or planned out. They literally just had to program it which isn't even that hard since it's a 2D game.
The hardest part most likely is the sprites and emulating as well as expanding on the original art style enough to differentiate yet remain similar enough to be recognizable. Plus the music compositions, and other designs.
It really helps when you got a team of dedicated fans who are actually knowlefdgable in the subject..
also he can't ever die, so he's trapped for eternity which was confirmed by itoi
This is the problem.
/v/ as a whole is filled with touchy, confrontational retards, who are too willing to abuse the fuck out of the anonymity this place offers.
The fact that "bait" is even a thing is a telling sign of how fucking awful the people on this board are.
Any given shitty post could be an idiot or asshole and you will never conclusively know.