I just want everyone to be happy.
Except the average Smashfag on /v/
Same here man. I want Ridley in so bad but I'm not going to get pissed at Shulkfags because they want Shulk, or K.Roolfags because they want him. So many people think "Lol no one likes your purple dragon he'll never be in" but if they actually did a bit of research they would find he's actually bretty fucking cool. I had no idea who the fuck Shulk was until I looked into it a bit more, and he seems like he would be pretty legit.
I just feel like the hype train will move so much faster if we just fucking get along.
Almost any character is pretty fucking cool with a little research. Although I guess it's better to be hyped for every character you know so that you'll be happy if at least one gets in.
I'm just going to wait for them to confirm Snake returning. He's just waiting it out all stealth like, making sure he knows who all the newcomers are before it's SHOW TIMU. That's totally it.
Add Jill & Drill Dozer to that list, (and change Chorus Men to just Marshal) and you've got my dream roster.
Pic very related.
>super star ultra
>return to dreamland
>said Miis will never get in
>It was kind of expected anyway
>said Pac-Man will never get in
>said Robin will never get in
I give up. What next, will Ridley get in too?
I'm waiting for Waifu Warriors Impa. Muh fucking dick.
>I will always be a Genofag
>No matter what, Smash will never make me happy until Geno is in
>yfw there will never, ever be a final, surprise "villians trailer" featuring Ridley, K. Rool, and Mewtwo
>yfw it will never begin with Ganondorf almost shot for shot how the Robin/Lucina trailer began with Captain Falcon
>yfw halfway through it won't suddenly break sync with the Falcon trailer to signify Ganondorf's new, unique moveset
Lucina's and Robin's inclusion blew me the fuck out, but I'm pretty happy by them. Robin's got a neat gimmick and that final smash hyped me.
I've got pretty much no hope for Ridley but if he is in I'd fucking explode
Prepare your rectums.
I actually generally agree with this, except the part about the Little Mac/Samus height comparison. She's just the tallest humanoid character, so she was the best choice for a comparison.
> implying we've seen him as a boss hazard
> taking the shadow of a heavily requested character at face value
funny how yellow devil, the gerudo witches and kamek were all blatantly shown and ridley wasnt. kinda reminds me of how they kept teasing palutena and she'd never be playable. oh wait.
Same here, I think that's just coincidence. Also if you've heard of the Trophy Theory the last newcomer trailer coincides with it a bit. Lucina is shown fighting on Pyrosphere, Skyloft, and Palutena's Temple.
Y'know, I used to be anti Ridley but over time I warmed to the idea and now I'd be happy with his inclusion.
I'd rather the Gematsu fags get BTFO too
I really hope that's the case.
They haven't shown Pyrosphere's boss, nor have we seen any DK or Kirby stages (that aren't past stages)
I'm thinking they're gonna show off a lot of stage bosses in the next direct.
Dyna Blade or Magolor for Kirby.
Tiki Tong or Frederik for DK.
Phantoon or Kraid on Pyrosphere
They're not even really all that hyped. We just saw a couple and then a shadow, it's really not that much. Sakurai might not even realize how much of a shitstorm that shadow has caused.
>Sakurai might not even realize how much of a shitstorm that shadow has caused.
Of course he knows. That's why he only showed a shadow.
Ridley is one of the most requested characters, so of course Sakurai will tease Ridley to keep players in suspense.
Nah man. I used to think like you; but since Monday, I`m now convinced that playing us for fools is Sakurai`s only joy in life.
watching that roster made me realize than wario, yoshi and dk are not mario reps, which means mario only has 5, same as pokemon or zelda and only one less than fire emblem.
I know peach still has it but this motherfucker deserves a chance. he's literally one the most iconic and recognizable character in all vidya history. also he has a shiton of alt costumes which would be fun to use.
I really and truly hope that Ganondorf has a sword this time around. Make him functionally similar to Brawl, but change some of his moves to sword slashes. A rushing Slash instead of the Wizard Foot. Keep his choke, turn his up+B into a leaping sword thrust, etc.
As long as his Ftilt, jab, and smash B are kept, everything else can be changed visually, really.
Ganondorf needs to be like a more powerful Robin, and he needs his Trident. Seriously, he has never used his fist to fight and he only used swords in like two games. He was a rushed character and Sakurai should have fixed him back in Brawl.
I like you. He can share Peach's down-B but have the ability to find bombs, POW Blocks and other items from SMB2. Not to mention NSMB's stuff like the Propeller Hat for an Up-B. Toad made more sense as a fighter than Rosalina, personally. But to each his own.
>He has never used his fist to fight
Except that time he beat the everloving shit out of Link in Wind Waker.
Ganondorf never used a trident. Phantom Ganon used a halberd and Pig Ganon used a trident, but there's no precedent for Ganondorf using one, although there's plenty of cause for him having a sword.
I would be completely fine with Captain Toad getting in.
Yeah but they're refered as the same person in the recent games. You can see in ALTTP's remake how they talk about this Ganondorf thief.
Also I believe Phantom Ganon is like a clone of him, so it's not weird to see Ganondorf using a trident or halberd. In fact, it's better than seeing him using swords considering the game as already too much of them.
What he needs yes or yes is magic. Seriously, Ganondorf without magic is like Pikachu without electricity.
>Raiden's head poking in
I don't understand why I'm laughing
>When Snake is cut
Who in the hell is that in the bottom left?
Kirby fans are the worst. They also claim that Air Ride isn't a bad game.
Hopefully you can have the alternate faces as costumes for Robin. I always found the default ones a bit boring.
Alternatively, he can be a speedster with power attributes. You have no idea how much I wanted Toad in Smash and how heartbroken I was to see Rosalina instead.
But to each his own, once again. I've since gotten over it.
I make it a point to play a game involving every rep for this reason. Maining Ness is what led me to play Earthbound for the first time. It just feels wrong to not have an understanding of their history.
Well Ubisoft said Rayman is only a trophey, so chances are everyone who's been shown as a trophey won't be showing up as fighters.
Squirtle and Ivysaur are dead, it's time to let go
I agree. Like most, I got into Fire Emblem through Marth and Roy in Melee. Before that I felt the need to play F-Zero in order to understand Captain Falcon, though I soon found out his entire moveset is made up.
Yeah it totally makes sense that they would show Red as a trophy months before showing him as an actual character. It's a great idea to destroy the hope of fans that he'll be in. And it totally makes sense to wait this long to reveal him rather than revealing him alongside the release of his game which totally didn't need a potential sales boost from it's main character being in Smash. Yeah, Wonder Red is definitely playable in Smash.
> maining Ness
My nigga. Mained since Smash 64.
This isn't a terrible roster, actually--just unrealistic in the number of characters it includes. Let's go through them.
Whether you believe Gematsu or not, he's actually a likely addition. Better than even odds.
He did have a game in the last five years--it just didn't do well. He's a contender, but at the edge of the fray.
> Dixie Kong
Her, or Cranky, have good odds. A 1/3 shot for either of them.
The Kremlings weren't part of DKC's revival, and they probably won't be part of smash either.
Hmm. Even if he's in Hyrule Warriors, he won't likely be in future Zelda games, and Sakurai knows that. Odds are low.
Could be the surprise character. But probably won't be.
Prominently featured in X&Y, in recent a movie, almost certainly returning.
> Chorus Boys
A Rhythm Heaven rep is likely. If you believe Gematsu, that rep will be Chorus Boys.
> Wonder Red
Already deconfirmed. He's an assist trophy.
A good choice. I've heard nothing one way or the other, really, but we haven't seen this guy since Dual Strike. 10%?
Too big to be feasible. Just not a good commando name.
Metal Gear Solid V for Wii U / 10.
fuck the people on /v/ never give up
Who else doesn't have a problem with anyone on the roster at all? Feels good.
I'm okay with Miis, since I can do this
I'm okay with Rosalina because of her moveset
I'm okay with Lucina, since she is essentially a bonus character
I love Little Mac, Pac-Man, and Robin.
Believe in the Ruse Cruise.
I don't outright hate anyone that got in but I do feel Rosalina is unjustified and I wish her central gimmick was used for a Custom Robo character. But I'm alright with it, I guess.
There are a lot of character I'd like to see get in.
What I want to know is why Ridley in Smash 4 has the tail spike of Clone Ridley and the gangly-ness of original Ridley.
If he was only the boss for the Other M stage, why not just use Other M's design?
i'd be more worried that he's hinting at some kind of bonus wii u exclusive playable stage boss mode. which honestly i wouldn't mind, as long as we at least get some other metroid newcomer as well
Yeah, I'd say Shulk is pretty much a given
I seriously doubt Nintendo isn't going to rep their first-party subsidiary with the MC from their most popular, critically acclaimed game
it's obvious Nintendo are making a concerted effort in pushing the Xenoblade series. I believe Nintendo and Monolithsoft are both dedicated in turning the Xenoblade series into a big hit, and Nintendo are dedicated in realising this.
There's also a spiritual sequel, Xenoblade X, hitting the Wii U in 2015.
The signs are all too clear.
sakurai can make anything work, so i wouldn't be surprised
i already have, i meant i can't believe we didn't see it sooner considering that it was right under our noses
Well Sakurai said they aren't using the pad for anything that would require it and there's no other real way to do such a mode without it. Plus people would just argue who gets to play as the boss.
>mfw I realize it said "Other boss character appearances"
>mfw this could possibly be construed as "Ridley is a character that is typically a boss, and is making an appearance in smash" rather than "Ridley is going to be a boss in smash"
Honestly after Lucina and Robin I expect Ridley to be in. I'm not a Ridleyfag or anything, but every reveal has had me BTFO. I used to insult Lucinafags and Robinfags for being absolute retards because of course Chrom would be the Awakening rep and everyone who thought otherwise was a wishfully thinking delusional fanboy. I do the same thing to Ridleyfags, so at this point I wouldn't be surprised to get BTFO.
i don't have a wii u yet, how many controllers does it support? what if it just used regular controls?
as for people arguing, i don't know, maybe chill out and take turns or something
It's a shame that if a Xenoblade character actually makes it in, it will be Shulk just because he's the main character.
Another sword user, whoo.
Can't have another character like Fiora, Riki, Melia, or Reyn as side characters never make it in over the mains. Dunban would even be better, but he would just be another sword character with autocombo specials.
It was always "one of Chrom or Lucina." And that's what we got. I was thinking it was going to be Lucina the whole time, because they wanted more women in the roster and Chrom just looks too similar to Marth.
That would be the most egregious thing if he was just a boss. Why shrink and change his design if he'd be playing pretty much the same role he did in Brawl? It doesn't make sense.
Just like Ganondorf who also hasn't been shown yet.
Shulk's would not be like any other sword user in the roster though.
His moveset will consist of positional attack damage, Arts, buffs/debuffs, visions, and the talent gauge
there's so much too draw from. He'd be a sword fighter, yes, but a very unique one at that.
Because of Gematsu. Not because of whatever you're going on about.
If you didn't realize Lucina was a contender and were shocked at her reveal, you're behind the curve. Pure and simple. If you think Ridley is realistic, you're in the gamefaqs crowd.
Shulk is the Marth of Xenoblade. He is the "Nintendo All-star" associated with the franchise. Just because a side character is more hipsterishly likable than him doesn't warrant their inclusion, even if they would have cool movesets. Don't worry though, with all of his Monado arts Sakurai will make him unique.
>I'm just concerned Sakurai thinks boss Ridley will make people "happy" or that he just doesn't care.
Sakurai acts like Assist Trophies are just as good as playable. It's the "Please Understand" of SSB.
However, a guy with a fuckhuge sword in addition to magic would be cool.
>getting another rep
Sakurai wants us to suffer.
I know! If next months direct is on the sixth I may shit myself. Metroid released on Famicom August sixth. Next month would be one year since Pyrosphere stage reveal. Gotta keep my hopes up.
Ike's sword is actually pretty standard, he just wields it 1 handed which is pretty fucking badass
Shulk has the generic giant anime sword trope, unless we get Ganondorf's OoT sword and not a clone/WW swords, then shulk will have something going for him
He was never named in the Pic of the Day that showed his trophy - just referred to as a member of the Wonderful 100. It could be a classic mode trophy.
But he won't be playable. The roster was decided far too long ago.
No he doesn't, he's not a fucking idiot. He knows people would prefer them as playable but it's impossible to include everyone on the roster. ATs exist to show off other Nintendo characters in Smash who would otherwise not show up beyond a regular trophy.
Not a bad roster, but honestly all I need is an other F-Zero character to be happy. Letting every series that can potentially have a potential second character get one is fun in my opinion.
This is why I don't mind guys like Ridley, if they can manage to make him interesting.
>along with a 'big Kremling boss' that is confirmed NOT to be K. Rool.
>tfw the guy was most likely wrong and it was K. Rool
Dammit, Shulk would be a pretty awesome long range sword weilder. The ether that forms the blue blade would also change colour from blue to green to purple depending on the Monado Art used and this would also change the Monado symbol
It's going to look so cool
I want to have more gun users in Smash.
We have like 16 Sword users now, and most are just fists. Only a few use guns and only one uses them for most of his moves.
Gimme pirate K. Rool... a heavy character with a mostly projectile based moveset
Also it's fishy that they had a pic of the day discussing Yellow Devil from the Megaman reveal less than a month after but we still don't have anything on Ridley. These civil threads bring up my hope, thanks. I should really avoid the shitstorm threads.
If Ridley is playable do you think the Pyrosphere hazard will just be lava, or maybe Nightmare?
Who the fuk is andy? cut him
FUCK YEAH Ghirah
Put Klonnoa there
Lucina anda Palutena Out
ivysaur and Squirtle Nope
Lucas Nope Put Klaus Instead
BOSS Or Raiden sounds like a cheap new comer there should be Meryl
You know that's another thing that annoys about Ridley potentially being a stage boss. He already got to be a boss twice in Brawl, I would like to fight a lesser known Metroid boss instead. Phantoon or Nightmare would be cool as hell.
most games support four players, some with asymmetrical gameplay support four plus a fifth player using the gamepad.
We don't know yet if there will be a Wii U exclusive mode to utilize the gamepad, and if there is it won't be announced until after the 3DS version is released and they start revealing the selling points of the Wii U version.
My problem with Lucina is that she's 1:1 to Marth minus the sweet spot on the sword.
I mean Roy was slower, normal special deal damage to himself and had fire. Hell he even had some of his moves deal different damage from Marth. He was a clone but he felt different even if he was pretty shitty
Lucina is just Marth
There was a picture floating around pointing out some strange pylons/objects at the corners of the Pyrosphere stage that weren't there in Other M or DoA. Those could be the real hazard. It would also explain why Pyrosphere wasn't playable at E3.
>I want to have more gun users in Smash.
If you wanna count all projectile beam users gotta throw in Rob too.
I'm mad that there are more fist users in the game than anyone else.
Seriously fuck right out of here with your bullshit.
It's also a way for some (not all) future newcomers to be 'on deck' for Smash. Little Mac is the biggest example, but I'd be surprised if there isn't at least one more graduate newcomer.
My roster will make more people happy
So, Sakurai said this in his recent Famitsu column:
"In such cases, even if two characters' names and voices differ, as long as they function the same way, I assign them as alternate costumes. The Wii Fit Trainers, Villagers, and Robin are examples of this setup."
He explains that Lucina being separate from Marth is the exception, not the rule. HOWEVER, the examples he cites (Wii Fit Trainer, Robin, Villager) have different models and voices but NOT different names. Having a different name would imply a separate character more akin to the Lucina/Marth relationship rather than simply a gender swap.
So what differently named/voiced/modeled characters are making it in as alternate costumes?
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.
If I spend this much time explaining why Ashley is CLEARLY playable, even after being confirmed as an Assist, I'd get shat all over.
But with Ridley, it's totally fine.
but Sakurai has said "Ashley is an Assist Trophy" and shown her off.
he has not shown Ridley or mentioned him by name (deliberately avoiding naming a character is something he did for Palutena prior to her announcement)
and Ridley's the most requested character
Yeah because he saw her and Sakurai clearly said what she was. We didn't see a loli shadow on a WarioWare stage with nearly a year of teasing. Don't pretend it's somehow comparable.
Sonic - iconic video game icon that even casuals can recognize, revealed prior to release to generate hype
Pac-Man - iconic video game icon that even casuals can recognize, revealed prior to release to generate hype
Megaman - iconic video game icon that even casuals can recognize, revealed prior to release to generate hype
Snake got in as a favor to Kojima and he won't be back in Smash 4.
use your brain
Nintendo has published all the Professor Layton games in the US/EU and the character himself has only appeared on Nintendo systems (I know of the Layton Bros series which is unrelated).
Nintendo may as well just own him
holy fuck how dense can you be. Some asshole said Layton wouldnt be in because he's 3rd party when there are obviously 3rd party characters already present
I forget how autistic /v/ can actually be
Really? Where is the footage or screenshots of Ridley as a boss then? Every other fucking NPC just gets shown unceremoniously as what they are, what the fuck makes Ridley so special as to warrant not showing him or even mentioning his damn name if all he is is a stage boss?
I can't wait to get my hands on him, he looks fun as hell.
But I enjoy ATs. Sure there are a few that MIGHT be wasted potential but I am glad that it shows otherwise swept under the rug games some love. Something that would realistically not get a rep like Advance Wars since is isnt popular in Japan at all is a good such candidate. I am hoping they do more fun things with ATs. They have already showed a little bit of the fun off at the invitational with Pong. Imagine what they could do with pic related
Most figure he's just going to be an alternate palette for Pit like in Brawl, but the most cynical among us think Sakurai might make him playable because Sakurai is not hiding his Kid Icarus favoritism at all.
I think he's an alt with a different voice. He could easily be a clone but I don't think they would do that since he is a literal recolor. Also how would alternate colors work between him in Pit if they were separate? They could potentially end up looking the same.
Honestly im not a large fan of the idea but it will probably be the same boat as Lucina where they wont spend much dev time on him at all. As long as KI doesnt have more reps than it does games I wont be upset really.
This was from before Brawl
King Dedede(5) - CONFIRMED!
Diddy Kong(4) - CONFIRMED!
Ike(4) - CONFIRMED!
Captain Olimar & Pikmin(3) - CONFIRMED!
Takamaru(3) - in Captain Rainbow as a Smash hopeful with Little Mac and Lip
Windwaker Link(3) - CONFIRMED
Animal Crossing MC(2) - in BG of Smashville stage, playable in Smash 4
Claus(2) - Lucas alt costume in Brawl
Isaac(2) - Assist Trophy in Brawl
Lip(2) - Shown in Captain Rainbow as a Smash hopeful with Little Mac and Takamaru
Lucas(2) - CONFIRMED!
Mega Man(2) - Playable in Smash 4
I'm gonna post this again.
I have it on good authority that it's legit.
Rosalina & Luma
Zero Suit Samus
Game & Watch
Wii Fit Trainer
Ridley is the most likely new Metroid Rep
Krystal is the most likely new Starfox Rep
King K Rool is the most likely new DK Rep
Takamaru is highly requested as the eastern answer to the west's Little Mac request (Little Mac was not highly requested in Japan, he was pretty much a 'literally who' to them)
(In more recent polls, Shulk is highly requested as well)
Stop posting this.
>There’s a list of the “top characters”, along with data on “how many times Sakurai mentioned each character” or “how many votes they got”. None of those are really true. Like I said, the suggestions that were posted on the Brawl site were only a small selection. If you went through the posted Melee suggestions and counted up all the appearances of the name of any character from the poll, it probably wouldn’t be the same as the actual poll results. And on top of that, the number of mentions isn’t even accurate – the list was created by people who went through those pages with an online translator and counted up the number of times they saw a character’s name, whether or not it was an actual “vote” for the character.
But they aren't "the results," because the results were never made public. Just a small selection of quotes from the poll, and then the "results" were approximated based on nonsense factors. It carries no real weight.
if it's the number of times Sakurai mentioned a character, then it was at least significant enough to take up his attention and he spent time discussing that character
That's not meaningless, honestly. Whether a character gets in or not is totally at Sakurai's whim and if he's at least aware of a character's ranking towards the top of request lists it's going to factor in.
Just look at how many highly requested characters made it into Brawl and Smash 4 so far.
It still shouldn't be used as any definable metric for how wanted a character is. Just because their name came up a couple of times on a dead web page and Sakurai is simply "aware" of them, that doesn't mean they're the most requested character.
>Tropical Freeze was very recent
>Best character from Skyward Sword
>Pikmin 3 is very recent, a few types of Pikmin are mysteriously absent from Olimar's repertoire, despite his reworking
You guys I think this is real
He will never be in, I don't see the point in even bothering to request him. Third party reps in Smash are some of the most iconic characters in gaming, how could anyone think Quote could compete with that?
Yeah it is. In order for the leak to have been legit he would have to seen Robin to mistake him for Chrom, and yet somehow not see Greninja, and also somehow mistake Chrom as playable.
I'm on mobile, so it's not like I can prove it.
But I posted the Quote image, and someone else responding.
There was a poll today for newcomers, and Quote got 150+ votes.
Fuck off, Ridleyfag.
why not just give him a character slot with changed properties?
face it, alternate skins that are different characters are dumb. they should ALWAYS be clones because that expands the roster, though somewhat artificially.
Not him and I dont care about Quote either way but a viable way of putting it would pretty much be the global face for indie games. Cave Story is quite possibly the most successful since it was free and turned out to be a good game.
That said I dont think Quote really has a place in Smash 4 unless they REALLY wanted to push that direction
He mistook Robin for Shulk, Pokemon X and Y weren't far enough along development for Greninja to actually have a name yet, and it was confirmed Chrom WAS a playable character until he was replaced by Lucina.
Even if he didn't have a name yet if he saw it he could have found out it's name in the six months between the XY release and his "leak" and Chrom was not replaced by Lucina. Sakurai said he thought about adding Chrom but went with Robin instead, Lucian started as a Marth costume he got a few tweaks before becoming a full character.
>Don't waste your time and just release the game tier
>God I hope it's true tier
I can't wait for the Ridley shitstorm. It's been brewing for THIRTEEN FUCKING YEARS (Melee intro featuring Ridley) and it's going to be amazing.
If Ridley's not in Smash 4, the shitstorm will be decent. But then he'll probably make it into Smash 5 because the pool of highly requested newcomers is thinning. And then the shitstorm will be almost two decades old. Holy fucking shit.
Just saying, they made Palutena work. Yes, she is a shape shifter, but she's still tall as fuck. No reason why Ridley is completely out of the question. Make him the biggest fucker, just not by enough to make it jarring.
None of these characters will ever be playable, and we should all be thankful that Sakurai has better tastes than your average /v/irgin.
Nobody actually cared about Ridley in Melee.
They cared about SAMUS, because by that point, Super Metroid was the last game in the series and Metroid Fusion and Metroid Prime hadn't been announced yet. Everyone was afraid Nintendo wouldn't include her.
These characters aren't bad, highly requested, decent chances of getting in someday, good potential for movesets, and they aren't shitty like the ones I posted before. Kinda run of the mill Smash requests though.
Cream of the fucking crop, these are amazing characters who will most likely never be playable because the Smash audience is a bunch of plebs and Sakurai is a fucking pleb. If you want any of these characters in Smash, you're a good man.
>yfw Ridley will never, EVER not be too big
But Chrom is essentially Lucina, I wouldn't put it past Sakurai
I don't know how it'd work, but I could see Sakurai putting him in
Only because Sonic is in.
>What's an Andy, again?
From Advance Wars. One of the main characters, arguably the protagonist of the first two.
Imagine if they were playable, and you played as all three at the same time and did more damage if you attacked in a rhythm.
And of course the Ouedan ones would be their alternate costume
Because people feel Metroid is overdue for a new rep that isn't Samus and Ridley is probably the most likely choice. Especially when series like Star Fox and FE already have way more reps despite less popularity. It's also partly why King K. Rool is often requested, DK is probably the most criminally underrepresented franchise in Smash.
The sad part is people actually want her in
Could work but the justification for having him in is dumb
Probably the best choice for a RH rep, if we did get one id rather it be him
Not a fan at all, as a character solely used for spinoffs him being in the spotlight as playable would just feel wrong
Im glad he was deconfirmed, would have been a boring rep compared to Robin
I want to suck Tingle's dick
People wanted these in? What the hell?
it would be nothing more than a glorified ad. Roy 2.0. If Splatoon turns out to be a giant success or something maybe in smash 5 but somehow I doubt it
Not the worst thing in the world
I dont know shit about Dillon
A decent enough new IP to rep. I dont see anything wrong with him
Fuck yeah, man. She was in Shake It, so Sakurai HAS to acknowledge her... R-right?
>Elite Beat Agents
>Mach Fucking Rider
DON'T MIND ME
BEST ROSTER COMIN THROUGH
you have some amazing tastes, my friend
Most of these would just make it feel too random. I can appreciate the games they come from, but in the end they just aren't iconic enough and in my opinion don't all mesh well.
The ones I see as acceptable
Kyle Hyde also looks pretty cool, don't really know what he'd do and Captain Rainbow would be okay as a Cpt. Falcon clone (Coming from someone who doesn't really know who Falcon is)
Either way I'd rather have these characters over clones.
What's with the hate for Krystal? Wouldn't she have at least more interesting attacks than falcon and wolf? It'd be cool to have a female rep for big IPs anyway, wouldn't it?
The way I see it, it should be one/two main reps, a female and a villain...
The problem is Star Fox already has too many reps as it is. I mean the series only has five games and half of them aren't very good. Plus Krystal kind of represents the bad era of SF games, as well as having a very large furry fanbase. Basically while she could potentially have an interesting moveset with the staff that aspect really isn't worth it when you consider everything else.
We've already got too many SF characters, she debuted in a game that everyone hated, and the way they handled her afterwards was a dumb romance disaster.
Add that on top of the fact that she's widely associated with furries... It's a bad scene all around.
The Japanese have pretty bad taste in reps from what we've seen actually. The only two interesting ones that seemed to stick out in their top lists were Shulk and Captain Rainbow. Other than that it was a lot of Mario reps mostly.
>Super Macho Man
>Not that fag from Super Punch Out
You know it's kind of crazy just how many people Sakurai would please just with those two additions. I've seen these two requested constantly for over a decade, it would be nice for everyone if they finally made it.
So has anyone been able to identify these things? Has nothing similar to them been in previous Metroid games?
If I had to hazard a guess, hahaha... fuck I'm tired. Anyway possibilities:
If Ridley is playable and the stage still has a boss hazard, I'd like it to be Nightmare. Those things could be magnets or something that he uses to fuck with gravity and tilt the stage one way or the other. Perhaps into on coming lava? Yes I know lava is overused in Metroid stages but there's lava in the stage so it's not like we can get away from it being possible.
Maybe if the only hazard is the lava rising those things are alarms and if it gets too high they start going off like crazy to warn the combatants?
Hell if Ridley is just the boss hazard I don't see any use he could have with those. The camera wouldn't pan down to focus on him and neglect the fighters so him interacting with them doesn't seem likely.
To be honest I'd take another lava hazard if it meant we got playable Ridley. No question.