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I just want everyone to be happy.
Except the average Smashfag on /v/
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>Isaac
Too bad, anon. I would be really fucking happy.
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>>253676712
Same here man. I want Ridley in so bad but I'm not going to get pissed at Shulkfags because they want Shulk, or K.Roolfags because they want him. So many people think "Lol no one likes your purple dragon he'll never be in" but if they actually did a bit of research they would find he's actually bretty fucking cool. I had no idea who the fuck Shulk was until I looked into it a bit more, and he seems like he would be pretty legit.
I just feel like the hype train will move so much faster if we just fucking get along.
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>>253676712
>no bandana waddle dee
fuck you
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>>253678378
>Normal enemy promoted to playable character in one game
Might as well add Dry Bones or Koopa.
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>>253678378
>>253678531
Not before Captain Toad.
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Shulk is such a fuccboi and I can't wait until December so we can never think about him again.
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>>253677728
Almost any character is pretty fucking cool with a little research. Although I guess it's better to be hyped for every character you know so that you'll be happy if at least one gets in.
I'm just going to wait for them to confirm Snake returning. He's just waiting it out all stealth like, making sure he knows who all the newcomers are before it's SHOW TIMU. That's totally it.
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>>253678531
But Koopa is already in Smash Bros
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>>253676712
Add Jill & Drill Dozer to that list, (and change Chorus Men to just Marshal) and you've got my dream roster.
Pic very related.
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>>253678827
You know I meant a koopa Troopa.
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>>253678531
>one game
>super star
>super star ultra
>mass attack
>return to dreamland
>triple deluxe
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>>253678827
If he turned his head full to the right the spikes on his color would hurt his chin.
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>>253678531
>one game
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>said Miis will never get in
>It was kind of expected anyway
>said Pac-Man will never get in
>wrong again
>said Robin will never get in
>fuck Smash

I give up. What next, will Ridley get in too?
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>>253679834
It is written.
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>>253678378
But he tried so hard for you.
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>>253678750
I'm waiting for Waifu Warriors Impa. Muh fucking dick.
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>>253679834
I'm just happy you're still in pieces after being BTFO so many times.
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>>253679834
Tough luck anon. I put my money on Chrom and got BTFO. Defended him a bunch in threads too. I'm glad we have Robin though.
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>>253680447
Trust me, I welcome death or at least Shulk
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>I will always be a Genofag
>No matter what, Smash will never make me happy until Geno is in
>Endless suffering
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>>253680440
Good choice, but literally impossible due to the time it takes to plan a character.
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>>253680592
True. I'm ok with Robin I guess. I'll probably play girl Robin a lot anyway
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>yfw there will never, ever be a final, surprise "villians trailer" featuring Ridley, K. Rool, and Mewtwo
>yfw it will never begin with Ganondorf almost shot for shot how the Robin/Lucina trailer began with Captain Falcon
>yfw halfway through it won't suddenly break sync with the Falcon trailer to signify Ganondorf's new, unique moveset
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>>253676712
That's a pretty good roster. I'd play it.
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>>253680754
The design could have been done way before Hyrule Warriors development. It's entirely possible.
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>>253680068
I still want to believe.
But why were stage bosses hyped when we've only seen three, and the two on 3DS we don't even know if we can interact with?
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Lucina's and Robin's inclusion blew me the fuck out, but I'm pretty happy by them. Robin's got a neat gimmick and that final smash hyped me.

I've got pretty much no hope for Ridley but if he is in I'd fucking explode
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/v/ is full of normalfags who think you need to go to parties and fuck bitches in order to be happy anyway.
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>>253680068


are ridley fags this autistic?

as much as id love him he is just a boss for pyrosphere. thats a simple fact.
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>>253681740
>>253681741
Prepare your rectums.
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>>253682098
I still can't see the Riddler in there.
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>>253680068
I actually generally agree with this, except the part about the Little Mac/Samus height comparison. She's just the tallest humanoid character, so she was the best choice for a comparison.
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>>253682096
> implying we've seen him as a boss hazard
> taking the shadow of a heavily requested character at face value
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>>253682096
funny how yellow devil, the gerudo witches and kamek were all blatantly shown and ridley wasnt. kinda reminds me of how they kept teasing palutena and she'd never be playable. oh wait.
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>>253682520
Same here, I think that's just coincidence. Also if you've heard of the Trophy Theory the last newcomer trailer coincides with it a bit. Lucina is shown fighting on Pyrosphere, Skyloft, and Palutena's Temple.
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Still waiting to be BTFO Sakurai.
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Y'know, I used to be anti Ridley but over time I warmed to the idea and now I'd be happy with his inclusion.
I'd rather the Gematsu fags get BTFO too
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>>253682970
I really hope that's the case.
They haven't shown Pyrosphere's boss, nor have we seen any DK or Kirby stages (that aren't past stages)
I'm thinking they're gonna show off a lot of stage bosses in the next direct.
Dyna Blade or Magolor for Kirby.
Tiki Tong or Frederik for DK.
Phantoon or Kraid on Pyrosphere or Ridley
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it's always a motherfuckin' livin'
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>>253683179
Same here anon. ;_;
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>>253683318
We haven't seen much Star Fox content as well. It's strange that we're lacking from DK, Kirby, and Star Fox.
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>>253683579
Yeah, maybe 64 Andross will be a boss as well. That would be really neat.
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>>253681740
They're not even really all that hyped. We just saw a couple and then a shadow, it's really not that much. Sakurai might not even realize how much of a shitstorm that shadow has caused.
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>>253683930
>Sakurai might not even realize how much of a shitstorm that shadow has caused.
Of course he knows. That's why he only showed a shadow.
Ridley is one of the most requested characters, so of course Sakurai will tease Ridley to keep players in suspense.
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>>253680650
Ridley, Obliterate!
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>>253684131
I want to get off Mr. Sakurai's Ruse Cruise
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>>253684131
I'm just sayin' he might not even think of it as being as big of a deal as everyone else does.

I'd love to be wrong, though.
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>MFW this wont be the roster.
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>>253676712

This is best roster I have seen so far.

The only thing I can think of is to take out Wolf and put in Mach Rider.
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>>253685115
Nah man. I used to think like you; but since Monday, I`m now convinced that playing us for fools is Sakurai`s only joy in life.
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>>253676712
watching that roster made me realize than wario, yoshi and dk are not mario reps, which means mario only has 5, same as pokemon or zelda and only one less than fire emblem.

I know peach still has it but this motherfucker deserves a chance. he's literally one the most iconic and recognizable character in all vidya history. also he has a shiton of alt costumes which would be fun to use.
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RAY EVERY DAY
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>>253685595
there Mario Reps,there just big enough to have there own franchise. Mario is the biggest thing in gaming after all.
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>>253685595
Pic of the Day!

When toad is out on the the battlefield, Peach's neutral B will be replaced by none other than Alfonzo!

Alfonzo: Leave it to me!
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I really and truly hope that Ganondorf has a sword this time around. Make him functionally similar to Brawl, but change some of his moves to sword slashes. A rushing Slash instead of the Wizard Foot. Keep his choke, turn his up+B into a leaping sword thrust, etc.

As long as his Ftilt, jab, and smash B are kept, everything else can be changed visually, really.
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>>253685970
They aren't mario reps. Unless you're saying DK and Diddy kong are mario reps too.
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>even pretending skward sword exists
>no major

Get.
The Fuck.
Out.
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>>253686172
Ganondorf needs to be like a more powerful Robin, and he needs his Trident. Seriously, he has never used his fist to fight and he only used swords in like two games. He was a rushed character and Sakurai should have fixed him back in Brawl.
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>>253683579
With DK and Star Fox I'm betting because it's unlockable stuff. The lack of Kirby stuff is odd though, maybe Meta Knight will be unlockable this time?
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>>253685595
I like you. He can share Peach's down-B but have the ability to find bombs, POW Blocks and other items from SMB2. Not to mention NSMB's stuff like the Propeller Hat for an Up-B. Toad made more sense as a fighter than Rosalina, personally. But to each his own.
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>>253686680
>He has never used his fist to fight

Except that time he beat the everloving shit out of Link in Wind Waker.

Ganondorf never used a trident. Phantom Ganon used a halberd and Pig Ganon used a trident, but there's no precedent for Ganondorf using one, although there's plenty of cause for him having a sword.
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>>253683190
They already were thankfully, even if some of them or too deluded to realize it.
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>>253686765
Peach can already find bob-ombs with her down+B. I agree with Pow blocks, though. Also maybe make his turnips the little onions instead or something?
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>>253685595
I would be completely fine with Captain Toad getting in.
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>>253686765
>tfw finding bombs with toad at the speed of light
I want him now. Why he always has to be a secondary or the host?
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>>253686765
You see, anon, Sakurai needed a puppet master archetype character, but forgot we already had one. Pretty much why Rosalina got in.
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Ridley is too big. Stop debating it.
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>>253686882
Yeah but they're refered as the same person in the recent games. You can see in ALTTP's remake how they talk about this Ganondorf thief.

Also I believe Phantom Ganon is like a clone of him, so it's not weird to see Ganondorf using a trident or halberd. In fact, it's better than seeing him using swords considering the game as already too much of them.

What he needs yes or yes is magic. Seriously, Ganondorf without magic is like Pikachu without electricity.
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>>253685595
Could be a combination of SMB2, Wario's Woods, and Captain Toad.

Also, the one Peach is carrying can palette swap.
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>>253687767
The only thing big about Ridley are his chances of being playable in Smash 4.
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>>253687185
I think Captain Toad would be best as an assist trophy.
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>>253687767
>Stop having the argument you've been having for a decade

It's no use.
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>>253687846
>phoenix
>zero
>layton
>bomberman
>raiden

who the fuck thought this would be a good idea. might as well include goku and naruto
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>>253687846
>Raiden's head poking in
I don't understand why I'm laughing
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>>253687767
No he isn't.
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>>253687846
>Grovyle
>Not Sceptile

>Pichu
>ever

>Raiden
>When Snake is cut

Who in the hell is that in the bottom left?
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>>253688728
Zero from some Megaman game i think.
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>>253676712
get rid of andy snake and wonder red and ill be happy with that roster
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>>253679447
>>253679795
>>253678378
Kirby fans are the worst. They also claim that Air Ride isn't a bad game.

>>253680802
Hopefully you can have the alternate faces as costumes for Robin. I always found the default ones a bit boring.
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>>253690435
>Air Ride
>Bad

I'll fight you over this
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>>253689836
Why Snake?
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>>253689836
This list isn't made to appease you, you awful roster fag.

In fact I made it to piss off people like you who DON'T want characters in because you don't like them.
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>>253686978
>>253687238
Alternatively, he can be a speedster with power attributes. You have no idea how much I wanted Toad in Smash and how heartbroken I was to see Rosalina instead.

>>253687592
But to each his own, once again. I've since gotten over it.
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This is most civil I've seen Ridley/roster discussion. I want to believe he has a shot but it's not easy. If he doesn't make it I hope whoever is in makes the most people happy too.
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>>253677728
I make it a point to play a game involving every rep for this reason. Maining Ness is what led me to play Earthbound for the first time. It just feels wrong to not have an understanding of their history.
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>>253686746
That would be weird since he wasn't unlockable in his debut. The only other reason I can think of is that they're saving the content for a newcomer.
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>>253690757
How would Wonder Red even work, hasn't he already been deconfirmed
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>>253690435
Don't get mad at Kirby fans because of HAL pushing Bandana Dee.
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>>253691224
He would punch shit with giant red fists, and knowing Sakurai he would probably be able to use the other morphs as well. But yeah it is moot since he is a trophy.
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>No Hades
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>>253691369
Like I know the whole unite morphs deal, but wouldn't that require more wonderful ones to be following Red?
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>forgetting the most important guy
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>>253691369
>>253691224
>Mario has a trophy
>This deconfirms him.
Hue hue hue hue hue. This is almost as bad as the logic behind anti-squirtle and ivysaur.
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>>253691506
Could just have the Wonderfuls show up to form attacks then go away when the attack is done.

>>253691535
Will be upset if he's in over Ridley.
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>>253676712
>ridley
not this shit again
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>>253690560
>a racing game where you can't even turn without stopping
>good
And don't even try to pass off that terrible battle mode as fun.
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>>253691554
Well Ubisoft said Rayman is only a trophey, so chances are everyone who's been shown as a trophey won't be showing up as fighters.

Squirtle and Ivysaur are dead, it's time to let go
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>>253676712
too many pokemon, otherwise it's damn near perfect
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>>253690958

I agree. Like most, I got into Fire Emblem through Marth and Roy in Melee. Before that I felt the need to play F-Zero in order to understand Captain Falcon, though I soon found out his entire moveset is made up.
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>>253691861
You're logic is worse than you spelling.
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>>253691554
Yeah it totally makes sense that they would show Red as a trophy months before showing him as an actual character. It's a great idea to destroy the hope of fans that he'll be in. And it totally makes sense to wait this long to reveal him rather than revealing him alongside the release of his game which totally didn't need a potential sales boost from it's main character being in Smash. Yeah, Wonder Red is definitely playable in Smash.
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>>253691709
That would be a clusterfuck if you think about how quickly you can use attacks in the game
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>>253691739
You only use this star?
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>>253691965
>you spelling

The irony.
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>>253691965
I bet you still think Roy is going to come back
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>>253690958
> maining Ness
My nigga. Mained since Smash 64.
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>>253691861
Wait why would we get Ray-Man as just a trophy? That doesn't make any sense. Why would we get a trophy for a 3rd party protagonist that isn't even represented by anything?
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>>253692180
He represents decent sales?
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>>253692180
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>>253692180
Ask Sakurai
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>>253692098
also there is no mini map and you can't even fall off the tracks when it looks like you clearly should
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>>253691731
>still getting mad over ridley
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Thanks you guys who still think Ridley has a chance. I go back and forth on how I feel his chances are and you guys lift my spirits.
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>>253676712
This isn't a terrible roster, actually--just unrealistic in the number of characters it includes. Let's go through them.

>Shulk
Whether you believe Gematsu or not, he's actually a likely addition. Better than even odds.

> Isaac
He did have a game in the last five years--it just didn't do well. He's a contender, but at the edge of the fray.

> Dixie Kong
Her, or Cranky, have good odds. A 1/3 shot for either of them.

>Krool
The Kremlings weren't part of DKC's revival, and they probably won't be part of smash either.

> Ghirahim
Hmm. Even if he's in Hyrule Warriors, he won't likely be in future Zelda games, and Sakurai knows that. Odds are low.

> Takamaru
Could be the surprise character. But probably won't be.

> Mewtwo
Prominently featured in X&Y, in recent a movie, almost certainly returning.

> Chorus Boys
A Rhythm Heaven rep is likely. If you believe Gematsu, that rep will be Chorus Boys.

> Wonder Red
Already deconfirmed. He's an assist trophy.

> Bayonetta
No.

> Andy
A good choice. I've heard nothing one way or the other, really, but we haven't seen this guy since Dual Strike. 10%?

> Ridley
Too big to be feasible. Just not a good commando name.

> Snake
Metal Gear Solid V for Wii U / 10.
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>>253692713
fuck the people on /v/ never give up
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>>253692532
>no mini-map
Confirmed for not playing the game
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Who else doesn't have a problem with anyone on the roster at all? Feels good.
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>>253691862
>too many
No such thing.
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>>253692130
I never claimed to have good spelling.
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>>253693085
I'm okay with Miis, since I can do this
I'm okay with Rosalina because of her moveset
I'm okay with Lucina, since she is essentially a bonus character

I love Little Mac, Pac-Man, and Robin.
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Sigh...
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>>253693141
/vp/ pls
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>>253692713
>>253692967
Believe in the Ruse Cruise.
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>>253693085
I don't outright hate anyone that got in but I do feel Rosalina is unjustified and I wish her central gimmick was used for a Custom Robo character. But I'm alright with it, I guess.

There are a lot of character I'd like to see get in.
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>>253692967
j>>253693627
I'm just concerned Sakurai thinks boss Ridley will make people "happy" or that he just doesn't care. Hope he cares more than that.
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>>253692828
I like it when people are correct.

From OPs roster we are getting Shulk, Rhythm Heaven, Mewtwo, and maybe one of Dixie, Andy, or Isaac. This is reality people.
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>>253693627
i always have a hard time believing this kind of shit, like that pac man cloud was right there in front of our faces yet nobody noticed
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>>253693627
What I want to know is why Ridley in Smash 4 has the tail spike of Clone Ridley and the gangly-ness of original Ridley.
If he was only the boss for the Other M stage, why not just use Other M's design?
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>>253676712

>isaac

into the trash
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>>253693870
i'd be more worried that he's hinting at some kind of bonus wii u exclusive playable stage boss mode. which honestly i wouldn't mind, as long as we at least get some other metroid newcomer as well
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>>253693627
Anyone have the one where it's the halberd scene from SSE and someone was doing the same thing with the clouds in that scene, only it was being serious
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>>253676712
More like this one OP.
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>>253693870
Well he's added highly requested characters in every game so far, don't see why he would exclude Ridley especially when he acknowledged the requests after Brawl came out.
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>>253694042
Would that really work though? I mean Yellow Devil is simple as fuck and a player controlling him wouldn't really do much.
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>>253693918
Go watch the Greninja reveal trailer, about 1:20 in. See for yourself.
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>>253692828
Yeah, I'd say Shulk is pretty much a given

I seriously doubt Nintendo isn't going to rep their first-party subsidiary with the MC from their most popular, critically acclaimed game

it's obvious Nintendo are making a concerted effort in pushing the Xenoblade series. I believe Nintendo and Monolithsoft are both dedicated in turning the Xenoblade series into a big hit, and Nintendo are dedicated in realising this.

There's also a spiritual sequel, Xenoblade X, hitting the Wii U in 2015.

The signs are all too clear.
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>>253694223
I remember reading somewhere that Sakurai didn't want to have any special gamepad-only features due to how there is so many control options
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>>253694063

>gordon ramsey

these don't usually make me laugh..
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>>253694223
sakurai can make anything work, so i wouldn't be surprised

>>253694256
i already have, i meant i can't believe we didn't see it sooner considering that it was right under our noses
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>>253692828
>if you believe Gematsu
>autism
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I really want Wonder-Red to be in. It would be so good, just imagine his final smash

eat my shorts
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>>253693915
>>253692828
>being "realistic"
>predicting anything in smash bros

just stop, it never works
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>>253694042
Well Sakurai said they aren't using the pad for anything that would require it and there's no other real way to do such a mode without it. Plus people would just argue who gets to play as the boss.
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>>253680068

>mfw I realize it said "Other boss character appearances"
>mfw this could possibly be construed as "Ridley is a character that is typically a boss, and is making an appearance in smash" rather than "Ridley is going to be a boss in smash"
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>wanting Wonder Red as playable
>not wanting the whole Wonderful One-Double-Oh in as the Multi-Man enemies

It's literally perfect.
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>>253693915
Like Chrom was a shoo-in.
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>>253693979
This gives me some hope too. He's like Bowsers size and some composite or modified Other M Ridley. Would be no need to do that for a boss.
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>>253693469
It's nintendo's highest selling and most popula franchise.
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>>253694478
The Ruse Cruise captain, Sakurai knows how to drive a hype train.
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>>253683142
>Sylux
Darth Vader is more relevant for Nintendo than Sylux...
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Honestly after Lucina and Robin I expect Ridley to be in. I'm not a Ridleyfag or anything, but every reveal has had me BTFO. I used to insult Lucinafags and Robinfags for being absolute retards because of course Chrom would be the Awakening rep and everyone who thought otherwise was a wishfully thinking delusional fanboy. I do the same thing to Ridleyfags, so at this point I wouldn't be surprised to get BTFO.
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>>253694691
i don't have a wii u yet, how many controllers does it support? what if it just used regular controls?

as for people arguing, i don't know, maybe chill out and take turns or something
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>>253676712
I can't be happy, Ashley's an AT.

Ask me again when DLC season comes knocking next year.
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It's a shame that if a Xenoblade character actually makes it in, it will be Shulk just because he's the main character.
Another sword user, whoo.

Can't have another character like Fiora, Riki, Melia, or Reyn as side characters never make it in over the mains. Dunban would even be better, but he would just be another sword character with autocombo specials.
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>>253694063
Anti-Venom Eddie Brock alt or fuck off.
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>>253694873
It was always "one of Chrom or Lucina." And that's what we got. I was thinking it was going to be Lucina the whole time, because they wanted more women in the roster and Chrom just looks too similar to Marth.
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>>253691535
I don't remember him.
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>>253694912
That would be the most egregious thing if he was just a boss. Why shrink and change his design if he'd be playing pretty much the same role he did in Brawl? It doesn't make sense.
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>>253695045
Wii U gamepad
Wii U Pro controller
Wiimote
Wiimote + Nunchuck
Wii Classic Controller
Gamecube controller via upcoming adapter
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>>253694810
I've said this since the direct. Japanese love wordplay.
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>>253694810
Just like Ganondorf who also hasn't been shown yet.
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>>253695045
It supports ALL the Wii ones and a new GC adapter and all the WiiU controllers.
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>>253695182
>Always

Fuck no, people said that at the start maybe but as soon as Marth was revealed Lucinafags were laughed out of every thread and Chrom was the defacto choice.
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I've never played SMRPG but I do know a lot of people wanted Geno for brawl, do people still care about him, does he have a chance or is he dead like Skullkid and Waluigi
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>>253695095
Shulk's would not be like any other sword user in the roster though.

His moveset will consist of positional attack damage, Arts, buffs/debuffs, visions, and the talent gauge

there's so much too draw from. He'd be a sword fighter, yes, but a very unique one at that.
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>>253695541
Because of Gematsu. Not because of whatever you're going on about.

If you didn't realize Lucina was a contender and were shocked at her reveal, you're behind the curve. Pure and simple. If you think Ridley is realistic, you're in the gamefaqs crowd.
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>>253695504
>>253695336
no, i meant like how many at once. just four right?
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>>253695095

Shulk is the Marth of Xenoblade. He is the "Nintendo All-star" associated with the franchise. Just because a side character is more hipsterishly likable than him doesn't warrant their inclusion, even if they would have cool movesets. Don't worry though, with all of his Monado arts Sakurai will make him unique.
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>>253693870
>I'm just concerned Sakurai thinks boss Ridley will make people "happy" or that he just doesn't care.
Sakurai acts like Assist Trophies are just as good as playable. It's the "Please Understand" of SSB.
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>>253695858
His sword would also be fucking huge, that's different from everyone else
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>>253695979
>Sakurai acts like Assist Trophies are just as good as playable.
No he doesn't and I have no idea why people continue to spread this misinformation
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>>253696105
>implying
However, a guy with a fuckhuge sword in addition to magic would be cool.
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>>253695859
Considering just how awful /v/ is at predicting this roster I would trust Gamefaqs over them at this point.
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>>253676712
>DK
>getting another rep
>ever
Sakurai wants us to suffer.
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>>253688728
Grovyle would be in as a Pokemon Mystery Dungeon rep if he were to get in. It won't happen. but that's the logic.
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>>253696143
>I have no idea why people continue to spread this misinformation
Because the things fucking exist.
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>>253695304
I know! If next months direct is on the sixth I may shit myself. Metroid released on Famicom August sixth. Next month would be one year since Pyrosphere stage reveal. Gotta keep my hopes up.
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>>253696247
Ike's sword is actually pretty standard, he just wields it 1 handed which is pretty fucking badass

Shulk has the generic giant anime sword trope, unless we get Ganondorf's OoT sword and not a clone/WW swords, then shulk will have something going for him
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>>253691369
>>253691224
He was never named in the Pic of the Day that showed his trophy - just referred to as a member of the Wonderful 100. It could be a classic mode trophy.

But he won't be playable. The roster was decided far too long ago.
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>>253696257
Ok. I can't argue that. Gamefaqs at least makes a show of it with the rate their chances polls.
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>>253695979
No he doesn't, he's not a fucking idiot. He knows people would prefer them as playable but it's impossible to include everyone on the roster. ATs exist to show off other Nintendo characters in Smash who would otherwise not show up beyond a regular trophy.
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>>253696143
http://www.smashbros.com/wii/en_us/items/assist/assist12.html
Maybe they're basing it off of the comment about Saki
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>>253695661
Geno has no chance because Square Enix owns him.
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>>253692828
>Kremlings probably won't be part of smash either

Actually, there are Kremlings in Smash Run, along with a 'big Kremling boss' that is confirmed NOT to be K. Rool.
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>>253695871
Yer.
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>>253676712
>on /v/
>Smashfag
i don't know why you made that distinction
you eliminated like 4 people
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>>253676712
Not a bad roster, but honestly all I need is an other F-Zero character to be happy. Letting every series that can potentially have a potential second character get one is fun in my opinion.

This is why I don't mind guys like Ridley, if they can manage to make him interesting.
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>>253696570
Is K.Rool the same?
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>>253696690
>along with a 'big Kremling boss' that is confirmed NOT to be K. Rool.
>tfw the guy was most likely wrong and it was K. Rool
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>>253696105
Dammit, Shulk would be a pretty awesome long range sword weilder. The ether that forms the blue blade would also change colour from blue to green to purple depending on the Monado Art used and this would also change the Monado symbol

It's going to look so cool
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>>253696843
No, Nintendo owns all characters that appear in the DKC series.
They do not own Banjo, Conker, or original characters that appeared in Diddy Kong racing
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>>253696690
I wonder which Kremling it'll be? Klubba would probably be the best choice.

>>253696843
No, Nintendo owns everything from the Rare DK games.
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>>253696843
Nope. nintendo wholly owns K. Rool and all Rare made characters in the DKC games.

But they don't own or they don't fully own everyone new in SMRPG.
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>>253690435
>Air Ride
>bad
ha
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Cut Sanic
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I want to have more gun users in Smash.
We have like 16 Sword users now, and most are just fists. Only a few use guns and only one uses them for most of his moves.

Gimme pirate K. Rool... a heavy character with a mostly projectile based moveset
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>>253697294
Return Snake
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Fuck yeah, Shulk!
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Also it's fishy that they had a pic of the day discussing Yellow Devil from the Megaman reveal less than a month after but we still don't have anything on Ridley. These civil threads bring up my hope, thanks. I should really avoid the shitstorm threads.

If Ridley is playable do you think the Pyrosphere hazard will just be lava, or maybe Nightmare?
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>>253697642
probably both
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>>253697642
Probably just rising lava like every Metroid stage.
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>>253697642
Pyrosphere hazard will be a bigger Ridley, unless Ridley is being played. Then it's MechaRidley
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>>253695182
nah it was Robin or Chrom, Lucina was just a Marth alt costume that Sakurai decided to make her own character (because there's no such thing as 'slots')
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>>253697642
Maybe Phantoon
I think he was the final boss of MOM
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>>253676712
Who the fuk is andy? cut him
also takamaru
FUCK YEAH Ghirah
Put Klonnoa there
Lucina anda Palutena Out
ivysaur and Squirtle Nope
Lucas Nope Put Klaus Instead
BOSS Or Raiden sounds like a cheap new comer there should be Meryl
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>>253697784
Gravity mechanics while dodging lava... lava being tossed around due to the gravity changes. That would be fantastic.
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>>253697931
You know that's another thing that annoys about Ridley potentially being a stage boss. He already got to be a boss twice in Brawl, I would like to fight a lesser known Metroid boss instead. Phantoon or Nightmare would be cool as hell.
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>>253695871
most games support four players, some with asymmetrical gameplay support four plus a fifth player using the gamepad.

We don't know yet if there will be a Wii U exclusive mode to utilize the gamepad, and if there is it won't be announced until after the 3DS version is released and they start revealing the selling points of the Wii U version.
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>>253697914
My problem with Lucina is that she's 1:1 to Marth minus the sweet spot on the sword.

I mean Roy was slower, normal special deal damage to himself and had fire. Hell he even had some of his moves deal different damage from Marth. He was a clone but he felt different even if he was pretty shitty

Lucina is just Marth
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>>253697642
There was a picture floating around pointing out some strange pylons/objects at the corners of the Pyrosphere stage that weren't there in Other M or DoA. Those could be the real hazard. It would also explain why Pyrosphere wasn't playable at E3.
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>>253698309
Well to be fair Sakurai said she just has the same moveset as Marth. I doubt literally the only difference between them is the sword damage.
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>>253697325
>I want to have more gun users in Smash.
Fox
Falco
Diddy
Samus
Megaman
Mii
Snake
ZSSamus
If you wanna count all projectile beam users gotta throw in Rob too.

>Sword users
Marth
Ike
Lucina
Robin kinda
Link Kinda
Pit Kinda

I'm mad that there are more fist users in the game than anyone else.

Seriously fuck right out of here with your bullshit.
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>>253698384
Well I'd like to see, if anyone has it.
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>>253698534
>Snake
>Returning

top kek m8
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>>253698485
I sure hope not, I really hope some of her specials will be different, but he speed and weight are the same as Marth's.

She will most likely have her own Final Smash though
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>>253696510
It's also a way for some (not all) future newcomers to be 'on deck' for Smash. Little Mac is the biggest example, but I'd be surprised if there isn't at least one more graduate newcomer.
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>>253698534
How is Link only kinda a sword user? Also you missed Toon Link, Meta Knight (who will obviously return) and Mii Sword Fighter.
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>>253696872
It was a Nintendo Treehouse rep, if I'm not mistaken. They know their shit and aren't just paid shills.
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>>253698712
Yeah Isaac and Ray could easily have been upgraded.

>>253698692
Well there's still the custom movesets which could help set her further apart.
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>>253697642
fuck lava on every metroid level
the gimmick is fun but one lava level is enough for fuck's sake
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>>253698561
Found it, it's near the bottom
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>>253698032
>who the fuck is Andy?

Summer please leave...please...
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>>253699024
Huh, what the fuck are those? They look like little life pods.
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>>253699024
Whoa wait aerial smash attacks are a thing?

Please tell me this isn't just for him because that would suck.
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>>253698812
Yeah, but still even with those there are more gun users and fist users than sword users.


People need to stop complaining.
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>>253699341
Don't know, they aren't there in Final Destination Pyrosphere.
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>>253687846
Professor Layton is in this game, you mark my fucking words.
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My roster will make more people happy
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>>253699892
I would die of happiness
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So, Sakurai said this in his recent Famitsu column:

"In such cases, even if two characters' names and voices differ, as long as they function the same way, I assign them as alternate costumes. The Wii Fit Trainers, Villagers, and Robin are examples of this setup."

He explains that Lucina being separate from Marth is the exception, not the rule. HOWEVER, the examples he cites (Wii Fit Trainer, Robin, Villager) have different models and voices but NOT different names. Having a different name would imply a separate character more akin to the Lucina/Marth relationship rather than simply a gender swap.

So what differently named/voiced/modeled characters are making it in as alternate costumes?
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>>253700071
>Cranky Kong
that would be great
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>>253699892
3rd party
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>>253700168
Daisy could work very easily for Peach.
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>>253700168
K. Rool with a Wart alt.
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Unrelated to thread but does anyone have a harger render of Captain Falcon?
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>>253700168
Dry Bowser, Funky Kong, Dixie.
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>>253700168
Daisy for Peach
Dixie for Diddy
Mewtwo for Lucario
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>>253699024
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.

If I spend this much time explaining why Ashley is CLEARLY playable, even after being confirmed as an Assist, I'd get shat all over.

But with Ridley, it's totally fine.
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>>253700290
fuck, you're right, there are no 3rd party characters in Smash
sorry
carry on
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>>253700562
Ashley was directly confirmed as an assist trophy.
Ridley's shadow was shown. Ridley's name wasn't even mentioned.
Only "other boss characters may appear on stages"
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>>253700562
but Sakurai has said "Ashley is an Assist Trophy" and shown her off.

he has not shown Ridley or mentioned him by name (deliberately avoiding naming a character is something he did for Palutena prior to her announcement)

and Ridley's the most requested character
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>>253700562
Yeah because he saw her and Sakurai clearly said what she was. We didn't see a loli shadow on a WarioWare stage with nearly a year of teasing. Don't pretend it's somehow comparable.
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>>253700770
Sonic - iconic video game icon that even casuals can recognize, revealed prior to release to generate hype
Pac-Man - iconic video game icon that even casuals can recognize, revealed prior to release to generate hype
Megaman - iconic video game icon that even casuals can recognize, revealed prior to release to generate hype

Snake got in as a favor to Kojima and he won't be back in Smash 4.

use your brain
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>>253700435
here you go >>253668163
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>>253700290
Nintendo has published all the Professor Layton games in the US/EU and the character himself has only appeared on Nintendo systems (I know of the Layton Bros series which is unrelated).

Nintendo may as well just own him
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>>253701137
>in the US/EU
>may as well just

You're grasping for straws. Layton would be a great addition but he's just not very likely. He's just as much third party as Geno.
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>>253700801
>and Ridley's the most requested character
Where do you people keep pulling this shit from?

>>253700809
It's NOT fucking teasing. He's a boss character appearing on a stage.
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>>253700543

>Mewtwo for Lucario
>implying they're even slightly similar
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>>253700928
holy fuck how dense can you be. Some asshole said Layton wouldnt be in because he's 3rd party when there are obviously 3rd party characters already present

I forget how autistic /v/ can actually be
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Am I the only one still hyped for Pac-Man?

Every time I see screenshots of him I feel a burst of joy
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>>253701137
Ashley from Trace Memory got a trophey, Layton could get one too.
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>>253701414
>All this delusion
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>>253701414
Really? Where is the footage or screenshots of Ridley as a boss then? Every other fucking NPC just gets shown unceremoniously as what they are, what the fuck makes Ridley so special as to warrant not showing him or even mentioning his damn name if all he is is a stage boss?
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>>253701594
I'm hyped. Pac-Man looks fantastic.
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>>253701571
B moves are all people care abpit
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>>253701594
G&W and Pac-Man would make a great tag team.
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>>253701594
I can't wait to get my hands on him, he looks fun as hell.
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>>253701414
>It's NOT fucking teasing
it literally is
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Where's my Dark Pit?
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>>253695979
But I enjoy ATs. Sure there are a few that MIGHT be wasted potential but I am glad that it shows otherwise swept under the rug games some love. Something that would realistically not get a rep like Advance Wars since is isnt popular in Japan at all is a good such candidate. I am hoping they do more fun things with ATs. They have already showed a little bit of the fun off at the invitational with Pong. Imagine what they could do with pic related
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>>253702191
As an alternate costume and voice
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>>253700976
Perfect, thanks a bunch
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So what's the consensus on Dark Pit?
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>>253702470
Should not be a playable character of his own
He should be
>an alternate costume
>a stage boss
>an assist trophy
pick one
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>>253676712
But I'm a smashfag and I like your roster.
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>>253702470
Most figure he's just going to be an alternate palette for Pit like in Brawl, but the most cynical among us think Sakurai might make him playable because Sakurai is not hiding his Kid Icarus favoritism at all.
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>>253702470
I think he's an alt with a different voice. He could easily be a clone but I don't think they would do that since he is a literal recolor. Also how would alternate colors work between him in Pit if they were separate? They could potentially end up looking the same.
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>>253702470
Honestly im not a large fan of the idea but it will probably be the same boat as Lucina where they wont spend much dev time on him at all. As long as KI doesnt have more reps than it does games I wont be upset really.
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>>253701835

Even then their B moves aren't similar. Lucario's Aura Sphere, the only one a little bit like Mewtwo's, is more like Samus' move than Mewtwo's.
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>>253698032
Preteen landwhale cunt detected, get out of here and back to tumblr with your cancer
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>>253701414
>http://smashboards.com/threads/characters-on-sakurais-poll.71872/

This was from before Brawl
King Dedede(5) - CONFIRMED!
Diddy Kong(4) - CONFIRMED!
Ike(4) - CONFIRMED!
Ridley(4)
Captain Olimar & Pikmin(3) - CONFIRMED!
Krystal(3)
Takamaru(3) - in Captain Rainbow as a Smash hopeful with Little Mac and Lip
Windwaker Link(3) - CONFIRMED
Animal Crossing MC(2) - in BG of Smashville stage, playable in Smash 4
Claus(2) - Lucas alt costume in Brawl
Isaac(2) - Assist Trophy in Brawl
King K.Rool(2)
Lip(2) - Shown in Captain Rainbow as a Smash hopeful with Little Mac and Takamaru
Lucas(2) - CONFIRMED!
Mega Man(2) - Playable in Smash 4
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>>253677728
I'll be legit depress if Ridley isn't in, no matter how unlikely it is. Ridley in Smash is like a legend.
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>>253676712

>Andy but no Ray

Please suck off.
>>
I'm gonna post this again.
I have it on good authority that it's legit.


Mario
Luigi
Peach
Bowser
Rosalina & Luma
Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
Cranky Kong
Yoshi
Wario
Link
Zelda
Shiek
Ganondorf
Toon Link
Girahim
Samus
Zero Suit Samus
Pit
Palutena
Dark Pit
Ice Climbers
ROB
Kirby
Meta Knight
King Dedede
Olimar
Alph
Fox
Falco
Wolf
Captain Falcon
Pikachu
Charizard
Lucario
Jigglypuff
Greninja
Marth
Ike
Lucina
Robin
Little Mac
Ness
Lucas
Game & Watch
Mii Fighters
Wii Fit Trainer
Villager
Takamaru
Ray Mk.3
Chorus Kid
Sonic
Pacman
Simon Belmont
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>>253702735
Ridley is the most likely new Metroid Rep
Krystal is the most likely new Starfox Rep
King K Rool is the most likely new DK Rep
Takamaru is highly requested as the eastern answer to the west's Little Mac request (Little Mac was not highly requested in Japan, he was pretty much a 'literally who' to them)

(In more recent polls, Shulk is highly requested as well)
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>>253703108
>I have good authority that it's legit
>Your wet dream shit-fest

Fuck off
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>>253702735
Stop posting this.

http://forum.starmen.net/forum/Storage/SmashBros/I-ve-been-making-a-comprehensive-list-of-unused-characters

>There’s a list of the “top characters”, along with data on “how many times Sakurai mentioned each character” or “how many votes they got”. None of those are really true. Like I said, the suggestions that were posted on the Brawl site were only a small selection. If you went through the posted Melee suggestions and counted up all the appearances of the name of any character from the poll, it probably wouldn’t be the same as the actual poll results. And on top of that, the number of mentions isn’t even accurate – the list was created by people who went through those pages with an online translator and counted up the number of times they saw a character’s name, whether or not it was an actual “vote” for the character.
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>>253703108
I dont believe you, but I'd be okay with it
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>>253703108
you're full of shit, but this is the type of bullshit Sakurai would pull
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>>253703236
one side saying 'these are the results'
the other side saying 'nuh-uh'
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>>253703108
>Simon Belmont
Stopped reading right there.
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>>253703205
>no Ridley therefore it's fake, baaww!
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>>253703108

>Chorus Men but no Shulk

yeah okay

>Ray MK3
>Ghirahim

Holy fuck please god. I know you're not real but maybe there's a 0.0001% chance...?
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>>253680068
I dunno, I'd be surprised if Sakurai knows about people wanting Ridley/2big.
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>>253703675
He does, he said in an interview that he was surprised by all the Ridley requests after Brawl was released.
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>>253703645
not even that guy, but it's a complete load of trash with or without ridley
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>>253703389
oh, you stopped reading at the end of the post?
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>>253676712
Only one thing will make me happy.
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>>253703365
But they aren't "the results," because the results were never made public. Just a small selection of quotes from the poll, and then the "results" were approximated based on nonsense factors. It carries no real weight.
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>>253676712
>I just want everyone to be happy
>no simon belmont
I'm not happy
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>>253704249
if it's the number of times Sakurai mentioned a character, then it was at least significant enough to take up his attention and he spent time discussing that character

That's not meaningless, honestly. Whether a character gets in or not is totally at Sakurai's whim and if he's at least aware of a character's ranking towards the top of request lists it's going to factor in.

Just look at how many highly requested characters made it into Brawl and Smash 4 so far.
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>>253676712
I'm not happy
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>>253704621
fuck off quotefag
obscure third parties are not making it into smash
the roster was decided years ago
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>>253704621

Dude, I never even thought of him. He could make a really great character.
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>>253704621
What's with the sudden increase in Quote requests? It's a little bothersome.
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>>253705119
>>253704621
samefag
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>>253704548
It still shouldn't be used as any definable metric for how wanted a character is. Just because their name came up a couple of times on a dead web page and Sakurai is simply "aware" of them, that doesn't mean they're the most requested character.
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>>253705175
if someone told Sakurai that Quote was their most wanted newcomer he would say literally who
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>>253705175
It is odd isn't it? I used to see him pop up once or twice every now and then but lately it seems like he gets mentioned in every thread.
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>>253705235
http://vgtribune.com/smash-poll-2012-finals/#more-1024

Skull Kid was never going to get in as playable
Megaman is playable
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>>253705391
I mean, he's not exactly the icon for Nintendo games, he was free and on a PC. I doubt he's that major.
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>>253703108
>Cranky Kong
>Tropical Freeze was very recent

>Girahim
>Best character from Skyward Sword

>Alph
>Pikmin 3 is very recent, a few types of Pikmin are mysteriously absent from Olimar's repertoire, despite his reworking

You guys
You guys I think this is real
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>>253705549
He will never be in, I don't see the point in even bothering to request him. Third party reps in Smash are some of the most iconic characters in gaming, how could anyone think Quote could compete with that?
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>>253705175
>>253705549
>>253705391
the explanation for increased Quote requests is obvious, anons
>>253705228
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>>253703653
>Chorus Men but no Shulk

It would confirm the "Gematsu leaker couldn't tell the difference between Shulk and Robin" theory. Not entirely out of the realm of possibility
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>>253705642
too bad it's not
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>>253697602
the end game monados are absurd
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>>253705642
the roster was decided years ago, anon
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>>253705819
Why do you say that?
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>>253705756
Yeah it is. In order for the leak to have been legit he would have to seen Robin to mistake him for Chrom, and yet somehow not see Greninja, and also somehow mistake Chrom as playable.
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>>253705756
You know, the Gematsu leaker's really starting to sound like he's an Ace Attorney witness.
>Umm... OF COURSE! I OBVIOUSLY mistook Robin for Shulk!
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>>253705858
Those games were in development years ago too. What's your point?
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Captain Rainbow will make an appearance
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>>253705937
because
>>253705858
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>>253705937
Because random lists of characters posted on /v/ are not legitimate sources of information.
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>>253706039
so it's highly unlikely that Cranky would get in over Dixie or K Rool

and laughably unlikely that Alph would get in
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>>253705937
because >>253705858, but mostly >>253706097. if he actually had any kind of credibility he'd prove it
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>>253705228
>>253705742

I'm on mobile, so it's not like I can prove it.

But I posted the Quote image, and someone else responding.

There was a poll today for newcomers, and Quote got 150+ votes.

Fuck off, Ridleyfag.
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>>253702348
why not just give him a character slot with changed properties?
face it, alternate skins that are different characters are dumb. they should ALWAYS be clones because that expands the roster, though somewhat artificially.
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>>253705549
Not him and I dont care about Quote either way but a viable way of putting it would pretty much be the global face for indie games. Cave Story is quite possibly the most successful since it was free and turned out to be a good game.

That said I dont think Quote really has a place in Smash 4 unless they REALLY wanted to push that direction
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>>253705974
He mistook Robin for Shulk, Pokemon X and Y weren't far enough along development for Greninja to actually have a name yet, and it was confirmed Chrom WAS a playable character until he was replaced by Lucina.
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>>253694063
>Balthasar
The second grader in me would've shit himself.
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>>253706168
Especially since Cranky was already seen as non-playable in the Smash demo.
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>>253706304
Chrom was replaced by Robin
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>>253706304
Even if he didn't have a name yet if he saw it he could have found out it's name in the six months between the XY release and his "leak" and Chrom was not replaced by Lucina. Sakurai said he thought about adding Chrom but went with Robin instead, Lucian started as a Marth costume he got a few tweaks before becoming a full character.
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>>253706168
Why?
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>>253705734
The hope for Quote mostly comes from that fact he is only on Nintendo console-wise.

There's a slim chance he'll be in, but at least we can hope for a trophy.
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>>253706265
>doesn't see shitty obscure PC third party character as likely
>must want Ridley
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>>253706580
Wasnt there a port for Cave Story on the PSP as well though?
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>>253676712
>No Rayman
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>>253678378
I've played 3D, how do you play as Best Girl?
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>>253706304
Chrom was never developed as a playable character. He was considered but then Sakurai decided to make Robin playable instead. Chrom wasn't "cut".
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>>253706660
Wasn't an official port, just homebrew.
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>>253706580
please stop you are worse than ridleyfags
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>yfw Ridley is in
>yfw "versus....GIANT Ridley"
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>>253706660
Homebrew
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>>253706680
no Rayman and globox ice climber tagteam
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>>253707015
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>>253707015
>final smash
>Giga-Ridley
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>>253706864
>says he has no chance
>"omg stop trying you're worse than ridleyfags"

At least we know Quote won't be in.
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>>253707015
> mfw Ridley is in and /v/ gets BTFO
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>No Travis Touchdown
Damn shame.
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>Don't waste your time and just release the game tier
>Lucina
>Dixie Kong
>MewTwo

>Indifferent Tier
>Ivysaur
>Squirtle
>Wolf
>Takamaru

>God I hope it's true tier
>Andy
>Ridley
>Bayo
>Chorus Men
>Wonder Red
>Ghirahim
>Isaac
>K. Rool
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>>253707195
I can only hope
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>>253707195
>mfw he doesn't and you suck my dick also I have no face
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>>253692098
This star was broken as fuck god damn. Having to stop to turn doesn't mean much when you reach your max speed in half a second anyway.
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>>253707427
1/10 made me reply
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>>253707195
I can't wait for the Ridley shitstorm. It's been brewing for THIRTEEN FUCKING YEARS (Melee intro featuring Ridley) and it's going to be amazing.

If Ridley's not in Smash 4, the shitstorm will be decent. But then he'll probably make it into Smash 5 because the pool of highly requested newcomers is thinning. And then the shitstorm will be almost two decades old. Holy fucking shit.
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>>253707678
Ridley is too big
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>>253707734
I don't give a shit whether he's playable or not. I just wanna drink them tears.
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>>253707846
But he's too big
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>>253707015
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>>253707734
Just saying, they made Palutena work. Yes, she is a shape shifter, but she's still tall as fuck. No reason why Ridley is completely out of the question. Make him the biggest fucker, just not by enough to make it jarring.
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>>253707912
>>253707734
this is why i can't wait for him to be confirmed playable
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None of these characters will ever be playable, and we should all be thankful that Sakurai has better tastes than your average /v/irgin.
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>>253708047
This is why I can't wait for him to be confirmed too big
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>>253708128
>leon

are there people that actually want him in?
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>>253708128
Fuck you, Tingle should be playable
The rest are pretty shit, though. I didn't even know people wanted Leon.
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>>253707678
Nobody actually cared about Ridley in Melee.

They cared about SAMUS, because by that point, Super Metroid was the last game in the series and Metroid Fusion and Metroid Prime hadn't been announced yet. Everyone was afraid Nintendo wouldn't include her.
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These characters aren't bad, highly requested, decent chances of getting in someday, good potential for movesets, and they aren't shitty like the ones I posted before. Kinda run of the mill Smash requests though.
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>>253708139
the shitstorm when he's confirmed will be too big
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>>253708273
Sable's a bit unusual, but yeah.
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>>253708128
Eh, an Inkling could make it in 5 assuming Splatoon does well.
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Where is Simon Belmont, OP?

You promised me you wanted to make everyone happy.
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Cream of the fucking crop, these are amazing characters who will most likely never be playable because the Smash audience is a bunch of plebs and Sakurai is a fucking pleb. If you want any of these characters in Smash, you're a good man.
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>>253708281
>yfw Ridley will never, EVER not be too big
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>>253708395
Assuming it sells really well and gets a sequel, that is.
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Why do people want ridley so bad? I'm genuinely curious as to why a stupid pterodactyl is so popular with autists.
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>>253708128
>>253708273
>Karate Joe over Marshal

No. I agree otherwise though.
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>>253707292
I like this list? Who Andy tho?
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>>253708273
Fair enough.
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>>253708128
>Chrom
But Chrom is essentially Lucina, I wouldn't put it past Sakurai
>Chorus Men
I don't know how it'd work, but I could see Sakurai putting him in
>Dillon
Only because Sonic is in.
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>>253708416
I was with you man, until you had to post this.
Man, what the fuck does Mike Jones do anyway?
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>>253708424
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>>253708232
no one thought samus would get cut
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>>253708484
>What's an Andy, again?
From Advance Wars. One of the main characters, arguably the protagonist of the first two.
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>>253703108
>Simon Belmont
>Ray Mk. 3
>ALPH

U wot m8
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>>253708450
Read the first or second post in the thread.
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>>253702257
Imagine if they were playable, and you played as all three at the same time and did more damage if you attacked in a rhythm.

And of course the Ouedan ones would be their alternate costume
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>>253708450
Villain rep, and Metroid rep.
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>>253708450
Because people feel Metroid is overdue for a new rep that isn't Samus and Ridley is probably the most likely choice. Especially when series like Star Fox and FE already have way more reps despite less popularity. It's also partly why King K. Rool is often requested, DK is probably the most criminally underrepresented franchise in Smash.
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>>253708581
Only quality posts my friend
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>>253708128
>Krystal
The sad part is people actually want her in
>Sceptile
Could work but the justification for having him in is dumb
>Marshal
Probably the best choice for a RH rep, if we did get one id rather it be him
>Waluigi
Not a fan at all, as a character solely used for spinoffs him being in the spotlight as playable would just feel wrong
>Chrom
Im glad he was deconfirmed, would have been a boring rep compared to Robin
>Tingle
I want to suck Tingle's dick
>Leon
>Blaziken
People wanted these in? What the hell?
>Inkling
it would be nothing more than a glorified ad. Roy 2.0. If Splatoon turns out to be a giant success or something maybe in smash 5 but somehow I doubt it
>Bowser Jr.
Not the worst thing in the world
>Dillon
I dont know shit about Dillon
>Mallo
A decent enough new IP to rep. I dont see anything wrong with him
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>>253708416
>Syrup

Fuck yeah, man. She was in Shake It, so Sakurai HAS to acknowledge her... R-right?
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>>253708416
>Elite Beat Agents
>Ryota Hayami
>Mach Fucking Rider

MY NIGGA
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>>253694063
>Balthasar
>Guy Fieri
I'd be okay with this.
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>>253708620
You'd be amazed.
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>>253708416
>Andy
>Saki
>Hades

Those three could've gone on the last list.
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DON'T MIND ME

BEST ROSTER COMIN THROUGH
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>>253708736
you have some amazing tastes, my friend
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>>253708416
>Black Knight
>EBA
>Mr. Spooky Scary Roman Skellington
I don't EBA would ever get in due to all the liscensed music.
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>>253708273
>MewTwo
>Not shit taste

We already have fucking Lucario and Greninja. They are the Fox, Falco, Wolf of the pokemon world.
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>>253708128
The Inklings will get a trophy for sure
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>>253708993
This is a new level of retardation.
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>>253708416
>tfw we will never get a playable Kyle Hyde who's completely 2D and still uses that sexy rotoscoping animation
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>>253708416
Most of these would just make it feel too random. I can appreciate the games they come from, but in the end they just aren't iconic enough and in my opinion don't all mesh well.

The ones I see as acceptable
>Andy
>Hades
>Black Knight

Kyle Hyde also looks pretty cool, don't really know what he'd do and Captain Rainbow would be okay as a Cpt. Falcon clone (Coming from someone who doesn't really know who Falcon is)

Either way I'd rather have these characters over clones.
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Nintendo please.
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>>253708736
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What's with the hate for Krystal? Wouldn't she have at least more interesting attacks than falcon and wolf? It'd be cool to have a female rep for big IPs anyway, wouldn't it?

The way I see it, it should be one/two main reps, a female and a villain...
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Did sakurai ever do a character poll for the Japanese fans, the way he did with brawl/melee?

I feel like we could end a lot of the roster debating if we knew what the results were.
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>>253709632
The problem is Star Fox already has too many reps as it is. I mean the series only has five games and half of them aren't very good. Plus Krystal kind of represents the bad era of SF games, as well as having a very large furry fanbase. Basically while she could potentially have an interesting moveset with the staff that aspect really isn't worth it when you consider everything else.
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sakiroo prease
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>>253709632
We've already got too many SF characters, she debuted in a game that everyone hated, and the way they handled her afterwards was a dumb romance disaster.

Add that on top of the fact that she's widely associated with furries... It's a bad scene all around.
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>>253709705
The Japanese have pretty bad taste in reps from what we've seen actually. The only two interesting ones that seemed to stick out in their top lists were Shulk and Captain Rainbow. Other than that it was a lot of Mario reps mostly.
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>>253709632
Furrie hate, shoehorned romance, and the fact that Star Fox is fucking tiny compared to Kirby and Donkey Kong, yet they don't have more reps.
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>>253710110
Shulk, Captain Rainbow, Lip, Takamaru

these would all be great newcomers
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>>253710512
I really would like to see more retro reps in Smash. Lip, Takamaru and Mach Rider would all be great.
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>>253710694
I'd really like Prince of Sable, considering there haven't been any retro reps from the Game Boy yet.
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>>253710805
He'd be great but I think without transformations he would be a lot less interesting.
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>>253710805
Pit.
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>>253697325
A character from Sin and Punishment could fulfill the role of a gun/sword user hybrid. That would really be cool as fuck.
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>>253710984
Clarification: a series that started on Game Boy.
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>>253708736
Fuck it
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>>253711192
Series is stretching a bit.
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>>253709549
>>253708958
>>253708416

>Hades

Top tier choices, but if he's in he'll definitely be a CFalcon clone.

>Pious

Poor bastard won't even get a trophy. Roivas might.
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>>253711446
>Hades gets Ganondorf's moveset
>Ganondorf gets an original moveset in turn

Perfect.
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>>253690435
>Air ride
>Bad
you're just a shit head
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Eat my roster.

Eat it.
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>>253712298
>Super Macho Man
>Not that fag from Super Punch Out
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Here's mine I guess.
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>>253700168
Dr. Mario
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>>253708736
Black Bull would actually be really fucking sweet
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>>253714180
>Ridley
>K. Rool

You know it's kind of crazy just how many people Sakurai would please just with those two additions. I've seen these two requested constantly for over a decade, it would be nice for everyone if they finally made it.
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>>253699024
So has anyone been able to identify these things? Has nothing similar to them been in previous Metroid games?
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>>253715153
If I had to hazard a guess, hahaha... fuck I'm tired. Anyway possibilities:

If Ridley is playable and the stage still has a boss hazard, I'd like it to be Nightmare. Those things could be magnets or something that he uses to fuck with gravity and tilt the stage one way or the other. Perhaps into on coming lava? Yes I know lava is overused in Metroid stages but there's lava in the stage so it's not like we can get away from it being possible.

Maybe if the only hazard is the lava rising those things are alarms and if it gets too high they start going off like crazy to warn the combatants?

Hell if Ridley is just the boss hazard I don't see any use he could have with those. The camera wouldn't pan down to focus on him and neglect the fighters so him interacting with them doesn't seem likely.

To be honest I'd take another lava hazard if it meant we got playable Ridley. No question.
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>>253708736
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>>253685997
10/10

underrated post
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>>253715914
Yeah I don't see how they would have anything to do with a Ridley hazard. Whatever they are that seems certain at the very least. We'll just have to wait and see I suppose.
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>>253694063
Toucan Sam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o_st1zmDHw
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