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I fucking LOVE RPGs with job systems. What are some of the best that do it?

I've only really played a couple. FFT, FFTA and FFIII off the top of my head.
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>>253366493
Please play FFV, OP. FFV is basically just a super refined version of FFIII. It's the most fun numbered FF game.
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>>253366493
Bravely Default. It boring around chapter 3 or 4 but if you power through that, it's an amazing game.
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>>253366493
The Last Remnant probably has the greatest class system ever created.
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>>253367015

What's the best version to play?
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i was lurking in a blue dragon thread earlier and some anon said it was a good job system game
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>>253367814
GBA version.
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What are job systems?
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>>253367585
nope, it tried and failed
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You may enjoy Final Fantasy X-II if you can get past the terrible story and the ridiculous nature of the whole thing. The dress sphere system is kinda neat.
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>>253367990

Character classes, basically. Fighter, Wizard, etc.

Based on the game OP's using as an example I assume he's talking specifically about ones that let you change classes/jobs.
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>>253366493
>FFT, FFTA
Tactics Ogre is basically FFT. Pure Matsuno Goodness guaranteed.
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Ogre Battle shits all over your Tactics trash.
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>>253368490
>auto battle shit
lol
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>>253368323
the combat is that game's sole redeeming feature, yes

I really like the combat in that game but I don't know if it's worth dealing with the everything else
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Dragon Quest III
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>>253368549
>needing full player control to win a battle
pleb confirmed
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>>253367015
FF5 is the best final fantasy
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>>253368867
I need full player control to have fun, playing Ogre Battle feels like watching a let's play
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>>253368490
Why is there always an Ogre fan that has some weird complex and feels the need to shit on the Tactics games. Rather just FFT cause advanced was gross. I like both Tactics Ogre and FFT. They're both really fun.
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>>253369247
Because I want another goddamn Ogre Battle game but all they seem to be interested in is this Tactics crap now.
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>>253368490

>We live in a world where Ogre Battle will never get a non-tactics sequel.
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>>253369247

Because one's less popular than the other, so he feels "superior" and "enlightened" for liking it.
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>>253368867

so when FF12 does it its awful but its ok if Ogre Battle does it?
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>>253369414
>last Tactics game was nearly a decade ago
>last good tactics game was the first one
At least Tactics Ogre had LUCT and Knights of Lodis
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>>253366493
Ragnarok Online
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>>253369616

Yep
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>RPGs

they're just turn based strategy with stats

there's no roleplaying, you can't affect the outcome of the story
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>>253367015
100% agree.
>>253367814
GBA Version Sound and Graphic Restoration Patch.

Participating in this years Fiesta was alright as well. You're going to love playing FFV.
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Are both FFT and FFTA worth playing?I've never played any but I do enjoy the genre
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>>253369870

Fuck off.
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>>253369247

Advanced is much better than Tactics though.
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>>253369906

I enjoyed Tactics Advance but a lot of people seem to hate it which if you started with FFT I guess I can understand.

I played War of the Lions after FFTA and have to say it's so much better. One of my favorite games of all time.
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>>253366493
Ultima Online allows you to bake bread, forge weapons, etc. You can literally live the dream by becoming a virtual baker or blacksmith. I heard EVE is also a pretty good accountant simulator.
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>>253369870
/tg/ pls
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Disgaea
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>>253369453

This may surprise you to realize but some people have different tastes anon.

There's a shitton of tactics games to choose from but I've never really seen anything like snes/64 OB after they came out.
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>>253369949

This is only true if you didn't play Tactics fully beforehand.
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>>253369906
Tactis definitely is
Advanced was alright, not nearly as great though

>>253369949
Like fuck it is.
I like it, but its nowhere near as good as Tactics.
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>>253369906
Yes.
FFT fanatics will tell you FFTA is crap though.
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>>253369949
Liar. Tactics had a much more serious and complete story, more interesting characters, and a more intuitive job system-- not to mention you could name your generics and you weren't locked into classes by race.
FFTA2 was bretty gud but still no FFT:WotL
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>>253370123
>pulling the "taste" card after you (or the person you're defending) literally entered this thread to shit on other people's taste

Seriously?
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>>253370090
Compare Wurm with UO which one let me have the most fun
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>>253370326

also, Laws

Marche vs Delita. biggest asshole?
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tree of saviour looks good
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>>253370467
Good question actually. I know Delita was just using everyone, but I still can't fault him for some of the stuff he did. He got shafted by life and wanted to prove to everyone what you could do to conquer it
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>>253369949
There is no real person who can actually have such a shit opinion.
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>>253370467

Delita wasn't an asshole. I haven't played FFTA yet but I'm sure everyone's problems with Marche are overreactions just like everything else.
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>>253370873
I used to think that too. Then I played it.
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>>253369949
Advance left us with the question of "Is Marche right?" even though they probably never intended that I still think it's quite funny but I wouldn't say Advance is better than Tactics.
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>>253370689
The team really did improve since the year 2000
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>>253370467
Oh, Christ, Laws were a mess. I seem to recall getting some crazyass laws like 'lol no using black magic'.

Delita is the biggest asshole in FF history. Poor Ovelia.
Marche's only crime is that he wanted to go home so badly that he ruined everyone else's fun in the new world. Also he got with dat white haired Ritz, so he's cool by me.
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>>253370873

/v/'s reaction to Marche is pretty spot on. Marche is pretty dead set on getting home despite what it would do to his friends and family

Delita however used EVERYONE to take control of the country. Ovelia, Ramza, the church, everything.

I'm surprised he didn't turn out to be behind the zodiac braves as well. he merely took advantage of it. wish he had been in duodecim dissidia
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>>253370873
People who hate Marche are just loser escapists, AKA 90% of /v/.
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>>253370337

I just like videogames anon, don't you?
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>>253367358
this
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>>253371193

>white haired Ritz
>not getting some bunny booty

Law:

Forbidden: Battle
Recommend: The D
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>>253371268
Marche Did Nothing Wrong
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>>253370873
Marche is a really bad character.

FFTA2 is a much better game, kinda simplistic, but it's better designed and even though the main character is a dunce he's not a badly written dunce.

There's no attempt at anything deep at all in the story, so I guess they played it safe after they fucked up FFTA.
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>>253366493

You would have loved FFXI, a mmo with a job system that was literally perfect.
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>>253369903
Is the Fiesta over already?
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>>253371339
>Ritz AND Shara
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>>253367358

Ultimate playthrough guide for Bravely Default:

Start on Hard
Get to Chapter 5
Skip all sidequests
Get to Chapter 6
Do sidequests
Chapter 7
do different side quests
Chapter 8
Get handed your first game over
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Am i the only person on earth who found jp grinding tedious as fuck? Yes you could use squire skills to speed it up but it was boring as hell.

What did the game devs want? You to main some basic classes up until the end, and still not have enough jp for decent advanced skills?
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>>253366493
>FFT
Play some Tactics Ogre
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>>253366493

FFX-2 has the absolute best job system in all of Final Fantasy and it is the absolute best version of ATB in all of Final Fantasy.

Just mute the game and go grab a snack during the opening FMV.

Y
R
P
In position.
It's showtime, girls.
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>>253371630
>What did the game devs want?

For you to stop being a whiny pussy and play the game how you wanna play it.
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>>253369949
I played Advanced first, and even I know you're full of shit. Tactics was scores better than Advanced.
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>>253371630

course its tedious. its grinding

>>253371715

it has some catchy songs. some of the costumes are cool. kinda nice to see what Wakka's been up to. Coin Break mini game. Also the hardest post game material of any FF up to that point, and still arguably the hardest
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FFV is just the best you'll get.
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>>253366493

FFT is as good as it gets. You'll spend some time looking for something better, but to no avail.

I'm sorry, OP.
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>>253371193

"Used" is not inherently a bad thing. His "use" of Ovelia involved saving her life, protecting her, and making her queen. His "use" of Ramza involved pointing him in the right direction for his own goals (which happened to coincide with Delita's). The church got what they had coming.
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>>253370059
>>253370152
>>253370187
Ok
There are both FFT and War of the Lions(which I figure is just a port) on the PSStore,which one should I buy?(don't you fucking say both)
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>>253371962

WHAT CAN I DO FOR YOU?
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>>253372245
I actually felt sad for Delita. You can tell he developed real feelings for Ovelia at some point.

Shame she didn't know he had Counter equipped.
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>>253372327

Pretty sure War of the Lions is nothing but improvements. But someone else can correct me if I'm wrong.
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>>253372327

War of Lions is FFT with updated dialogue (oh, godest whyeth thou!?) and some bug fixes with a little bit extra content.

Go FFT is you want to see the version we're all jizzing over. War of the Lions if you want an itty bit more bang for your buck.
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>>253372761

it got rid of the incantations they said for abilities sometimes

'Life is short! Bury!' sort of thing
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anyone every play Hoshigami? That shit was crazy
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ARR has a good job system.
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>>253372697

Well yeah, it's a tragedy. In spite of Delita's intentions being good and his feelings being true, the way he carried out his plans made him completely untrusted, even by those closest to him.

>>253372761

The audio quality is much worse in WotL. In RPGFan's review they said it's because there's no reverb, but I don't know if that's true or not.
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>all the FFV love in this thread
Mah niggas.

Been playing Final Fantasy Dimensions recently. It has a very similar job system.
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>>253372327

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_Tactics:_The_War_of_the_Lions#Development

Go to the development section to see the changes. The plot of the game is above it, so warning if you care.

Mostly all very positive stuff they changed. The dialogue change was pretty idiotic though. They could have just fixed some of the localization errors, but instead they gave everyone biblespeak dialogue.

Still, I'd go FFT if you want the real experience. The same experience we're all giddy about. But War of the Lions is overall a better game.

I think you should get both.
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>>253370090
fuck..didnt expect UO to get mention at all once i enter this thread. dem feels
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>>253373250
Does that mean it's fucking great? Was considering getting it.
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>>253373354

its the raw gameplay option for Final Fantasy.

everything about FF5 otherwise is ok at best. still def worth a playthrough

Ok, except Gilgamesh
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>>253367993
Nah, you're wrong.
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>>253373354
It is pretty much FFV with a bit less charm. It has a few elements of FFIV in it as well, such as picking up temporary characters and things like that.

I really liked it, but IV/V/VI are my favourite Final Fantasies so some of it may have been nostalgia for me.

It also has a fucking amazing soundtrack:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdTSkYZMupI
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>>253372761
>>253372836
>>253373287
Ok fine I'll get FFT.It's better for me too since my regional PSstore doesn't have WoTL,only FFT which means I don't need to get dollaridoos to buy it
Thanks a lot.You've been very helpful
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>>253373852

Hope you enjoy anon. You won't be expecting the kind of shit the story deals with. It's a shining diamond among Final Fantasy bullshit.
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>>253373753
That sounds pretty great. It makes sense it's got some FFIV in it, Takashi Tokita was a big influence on both games. And Chrono Trigger. And Parasite Eve.

...Why the fuck doesn't Square put him in charge of everything?
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>>253373753
>>253373250

Squeenix pls why do you love iOS more than the rest of us?
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FF 12 with the Zodiac Job System edition is within the top 5 best Final Fantasies.
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>>253375459
It's on Android too bro, if that helps.
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I've only played FFTA, other than FFT (which I'll start later) what other strategy rpgs do I play? I've heard the GBA fire emblems are pretty good
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>>253375979
If you want something closer to strategy, you could try XCOM: Enemy Within
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>>253375979
Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together. God tier srpg.
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>Implying animals have gods
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>>253369870
It is an RPG. It is just a super railroaded RPG where nothing you do can effect the plot besides doing a specific action, such as killing a bad dude.

It happens in tabletop RPGs a lot, especially with newer GMs who play lots of video games before running their first game.
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>>253366493
No mention of bahaumt Lagoon yet, while not a traditional job system as the heros just stay the same class and change depending ont he dragon assigned to them. The dragon customization is out of this world so fucking good. So funny when you fuck up and make one of the junk dragons
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>>253371715
or beat off during the opening FMV and the entire game like I did. Fuck my best friend got this and he 100% it in like a few weeks did that with a lot of the FF games on ps2
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Dota
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>>253382445
Wasn't sure if people were calling it ASSFAGGOTS for fun or if it was a filter.. Sadly for fun.
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>>253381895

Well, I can't deny that the hot springs scene made my pants feel a little tighter.
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