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New MOBA!
Art style looks fucking great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJCAKJ9fz4I
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Wow, amazing.
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Art style is as shit as Doter 2

That said, MOBA is a shit genre in general
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>>253305429
Maybe you need to get better at team work.
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>"new moba!"
>happy that there's a new moba
>calling it moba
>a /v/ thread not calling a moba a piece of shit

yeah you obviously work for this game
I will not shitpost you but i will advise that you need to be careful when you advertise stuff around here my friend, this place is a hell
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Those characters look pretty cool, especially the owl.

Too bad they're wasted on a shitty MOBA.
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>>253305534
I cringed at your post
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>>253306042
I cringed at your post
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I'm excited
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>gigantic monsters
OH
MUH
GAWD
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>>253306167
I cringed at your cringe
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>>253306157
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>>253306042
>>253306167
I cringed at your posts
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>>253305209
> New Moba!

I think you mean
> Another fucking moba
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Didn't gearbox just announce a moba as well.

Fuck these games are boring pleb shit.
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come on man, atleast try to not make it obvious
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it wish it was against the law to make a trailer for a video game and not show any gameplay
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>>253305209
Why do all ASSFAGGOTS have shit graphics? Is it so that every huehuehue and xaxaxa can run it on his toaster?
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>>253306336
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I like the design. But I doubt gameplay will be any good, as always
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>>253305523
no it's just a shit genre in general
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>>253306465
actually they showed roughly 1 second of gameplay at the VERY end
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sure is bacterial in here
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>New MOBA!

Jesus fucking christ

When is this shitty "genre" going to die?
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>>253306336

That's not how fluid / liquid physics works.
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>>253306489
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>league becomes super popular
>every company jumps on the bandwagon

the development of these shitty games is ending. that's all this shit is being released. see MMOs
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>>253306042
Its true though, now he's posting screenshots of it with no context at all. Nobody gets excited for mobas dude. If you like it you are either playing Dota or LoL, you would never get excited at a clone.
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Marketer pls leave.
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>>253305209
oh boy another fucking game that could have been good has turned in to assfaggots, thanks op
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Can we just fucking stop with the MOBAs? It is so painfully obvious that the only reason anyone is making them is to try and compete with Dota and League but it is so obvious none of them will ever make nearly as much money/be as popular as the two. This is worse than the "WoW killer" and "CoD killer" days. Did no one learn their lesson then?
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>>253306465
yea I fucking hate that shit, I always skip through a trailer to see if theres actual gameplay in it, if not I totally ignore it.
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>>253306608
oh wow i actually missed that
thanks anon
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>>253305209

>GIGANTIC ASSFAGGOTS
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>>253305209
I wonder who is behind this thread
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>>253305209
A new type of game in the ONLY genre shittier than MMOs! Can't wait!
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>>253306685
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>>253306626
Hopefully never.

You shouldn't really say stuff like that because you've never played it. It's kinda pathetic.
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Oh boy, yet another game with interesting characters wasted on the blandest variant of real-time strategy to exist.
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Looks like horseshit.
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>>253305209
>interesting art style
>good animation
>nice looking characters
>mite b cool

oh hey look at thi-

>moba
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>>253306042
>>253306167
>>253306340
I cringed at your posts
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>moba
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>>253306608
>it's LITERALLY just one second of footage

Holy fucking shit

Are they that ashamed of their own game?
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The owl swordsman looks cool, so at least I'll get some nice character art out of it.
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Oh wow a new moba.
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MOBAs are the new COD
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>>253305209
I like the owl swordsman and his pet but that's about it.
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>>253306995
I cringed at their post>>253306340
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when will assfaggots die as a genre?

this shit needs to stop
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>>253306912
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>>253305209
Another one? don't we already have 10? at least the map looks a bit different...
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>all this console jelly
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>>253307140
Never
MOBA is the new mmo. LoL and Dota 2 have another 10 years in them, especially with Valve just throwing Dota 2 on source 2 and LoL playing catch up.

Other Mobas though? Valve and Riot have the genre by the balls, so nothing else will ever gain popularity.
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>>253306042
Shills are trying to blend in. Leave.
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>>253306545
Confirmed 2k mmr solo shitter. lel probably never played with good friends not to get stacked with toxic players.
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>>253307291
>implying even the shittiest toaster couldn't play moba trash
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>>253307148
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>>253307291
>Console jelly
Only consolefags buy toasters or PCs then play nothing but MOBAs, eat shit, pal.
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Oh shit, for a while there were minecraft clones, then there was dayz "muh survival" clones, and now it's time for there to be a million lol/dota2 clones? Hurray for the end of Moba games by market oversaturation! It is finally upon us!
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>New MOBA!
Why? Who is going to switch from LoL or Dota? This shit makes no sense to me. Make something new and interesting instead.
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>>253307375
Devs don't need big popularity. Just look at all these Minecraft clones. Developement barely costs anything, so it can get profitable quickly
Kids don't care
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What with the "omg a fuckin moba" comments ,yall are doing it as an inside joke? Right? Mobas are just now getting big i see nothing wrong with them ? Dota 2 is really fun and addictive
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>>253307463
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>>253307521
I hope to god this is what happens.
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>>253307148
fuck i am mad. Those designs are stunning. Why not make some sort of GOOD adventure game.
NAH MOBAS ARE POPULAR RIGHT. Fucking producers man.
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WOW THE ART STYLE LOOKS FUCKING GREAT! I'M LIKE 11 AND I DON'T KNOW SHIT! IT LOOKS GREAT
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>>253306626
Do you have any clue how long they've been around and how they've simply gained more players in the past?
If anything it's starting.
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>>253307140
Its the new mmorpg.

I hope it will go away soon.
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>>253307641
>implying moba hate is ever a joke
>putting an email in the email field
why anon
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>>253307641
>[email protected]
>98
>16 year old

UNDERAGE DETECTED

FUCK OFF
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>>253305209
Does this justify a ban ?
I certainly hope so.
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>>253307641
8 / 10

How did you get so good?
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>>253307706
Well mobas are directed at 11 year olds...
I have no idea why OP would bring this here, this is for 15 year old who think Planescape Torment is deep
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>>253305209
>that cow sound effect
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>>253305209
>New
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>>253305209
>new MOBA
ur 4 years late and fuck off viral
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>>253307810
No, but your post does actually justify a ban, though.
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>>253307468
I actually know someone who bought an alienware laptop because he's retarded and then proceeded to play nothing but LeL
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>>253306812
fuck that was good im crying
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>>253307892
>Well mobas are directed at 11 year olds...
How are they?
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>>253306918
I've played it and I can safely say that people that enjoy this shit are "kinda pathetic".
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>>253305209
>Art style looks fucking great.
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Making new MOBAs is stupid because in the past when a new "genere" hit the scene and everyone copied it, at least those games had plenty of content for you to enjoy on your own. MOBAs rely entirely on having a strong userbase, and all MOBA users are too busy playing LoL and DOTA 2. This is why new MOBAs come out and quickly become ghost towns and are unplayable. It's even worse than new MMOs.
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>>253308034
Look at you getting mad at things.

Good job.
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>>253305429
You basically just called 40% of all games ever shit.
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>>253306751

Literally no.

This is the cycle that's point to continue until the end of time. For every successful game of a genre, there WILL be a plethora of clones and knockoffs. It happened with GTA III, it happened with WoW, it happened with CoD.

The best you can do is hope that the next genre boom happens to one you like.

l-like top-down shooters. their time is c-coming, i swear it.
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>>253306918
I have played it. I was hooked on League for like a year. The community is fucking terrible and the gameplay relies on having a competent team to win. You end up playing for several hours raging at the computer because the whole "one more game" mentality is so deeply engrained that you simply can't stop playing. I fucking hated playing every minute of it yet I couldn't stop. I'm so relieved I managed to quit that piece of shit.
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>>253308058
This, developers will learn after a few failed attemps hopefully.
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>new
>Moba
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judging the 1 second of game footage this seems to be a 3rd person action game instead of a 1 unit RTS, and since the player apparently was aiming up and down it's probably true 3d unlike SMITE which is mechanically still a 2D game

this seems to be a new trend what with that 3rd person action shit from gearbox
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Eh, sure, why not.
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>>253305209
saged and disliked
#stop_the_moba_cancer
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>>253308000
Is he an MLP fan as well? My friend's younger cousin went to school with someone like that, and apparently they were into MLP as well. How does someone do so much wrong in one life time?
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>>253308000
nice trips
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>>253308058
*genre
I put one thing in quotes and its spelled wrong...
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>>253307521
If only it always worked that way. It's not the surge in modern military tacticool shooters did anything to kill off CoD and that stale genre.
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>>253306894
MMO isn't a genre.
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>>253308209
I wish, anon, I wish
Just right after fighting games will get popular again
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Just sign up for the Alpha, thanks OP!
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>>253307810
How so? I just posted a trailer for a game I thought looked nice. Would you rather another shit posting console bait thread instead?

jesus christ m8.
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>New MOBA

Stopped reading there, saged, reported, hid thread, started looking up guns for hire

Your days are numbered, punk
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>2 new assfaggots announced the same fucking day

Perfect
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The amount of baseless claims and hypocricy being thrown around when people shit on the genre is huge.

What's wrong with you people?
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>>253308378
>Massively multiplayer online role-playing games (MMORPGs) mix the genres of role-playing video games and massively multiplayer online games

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massively_multiplayer_online_role-playing_game
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>>253306751
They think they can grab a piece of the pie. Even a small one is enough to feed a big studio.
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It honestly doesn't look bad.
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>>253305209
>"may contain content inappropriate for children"
i wouldnt be too sure about that
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Always with the ASSFAGGOTS genre, whatever happened to normal rts?
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Honestly, that looks horrendous.

Also

>ASSFAGGOTS
http://strawpoll.me/1934269/
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>>253308503
>What's wrong with you people?
We are not the 12 years old target audience of your assfaggots
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>>253308561
He said MMO, not MMORPG, you dummy
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>>253308561
MMO isn't MMORPG.
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>>253308209
>>253308389
Worst genres even worse than MOBAs I hope they stay dead
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>>253308620
yeah, did you see how that orange taurus jumped in the jungle and saved his fellow adventurers ;^)
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>>253308029
Usually they have cartoon-ey graphics
You need to memorize some hotkeys and that's basically it, it requires not much skill or strategy and no quick reflexes.
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>>253308669
based /v/ has
>Cinematic "Action" at silky smooth 30fps
as #1 most cancerous

so fucking good. i love you men
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>>253305429

>dota 2
>not the best artstyle in the genre
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>>253308561
Im not him but mmo and mmorpg are 2 different things
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>>253308171
>implying at leat 80% of existing games aren't shit thanks to mobile games and shovelware
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>>253307682
Only time will tell, but so far, it's looking good, even gearbox are making a moba, surely this will pull in a ton of overzealous indie devs to make a billion shitty Mobas to make money while it's mainstream, and then will come the youtube letsplayers to milk it for all its worth too.

the Moba genre will be so used and spent that its never gonna gonna be popular again, like collect-a-thon adventure platformers outside of Nintendo.
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>>253308297
yeah from that one second it seems pretty different from traditional games in the genre

I'm keeping my hopes high for this

a team based third person action game in an arena with objectives sounds like a cool concept

but who knows
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>>253308664
Why did you bring up RTS games when this game has nothing to do with RTS?
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Wait, it actually has some kind of TPS gameplay instead of that top down pseudo RTS stuff?
I'll be sure to check this out then. Thanks for informing me.
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>>253308250
>Play with friends only
>Community in your team is now full of people you love
>Other team is now filled with the toxic community that you hate
>Proceed to murder the people you hate with friends
Also LoL is for fucking casuals, you haven't played a real MOBA yet.
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>go on /v/
>widespread shitting on Dota 2/LoL/HoN/SMITE/etc
>meet people from generals on /vg/ or 4craft or just anywhere else
>80% of the time they play Dota 2/LoL/HoN/SMITE
Something's not right here.
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>>253308365
Well, CoD is already dying, so what is killing that genre?
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>>253306812
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MOBAs are only fun with friends

No wonder so many people here hate them
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>>253308669
FPS really don't deserve so muchhate

even the most simple ones like halo take more skill than mobashits and they are fun as fuck too
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>>253307679

>monster girls

PICKED THE FUCK UP
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>there are people that play MOBAs
>there are people that just sit around and watch people play MOBAs
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I like the artstyle, and the smidgen of gameplay we DID see actually seemed somewhat interesting, but of course I'm reserving my opinion until I know more about the game
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>>253308848
MOBAs started from RTSs.
Actually they're a dumbed down form of a dumbed down form (RTT) of RTSs
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>>253305209
>moba
>TPS gameplay bit at the end
Huh? What is going on? Are MOBA elements the new RPG elements? Will they try and ruin every genre by making it more of an ASSFAGGOT?
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>>253308891
Everyone knows /vg/ is full of faggots. Any resemblance they have to /v/ is long gone.
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>>253308812
>grimdark with slight lightheartedness
>best anything
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>>253309047
But this game is a third-person action game, didn't you see the trailer?
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>>253308805
filtered
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>decent artstyle
>third person control over characters
>the "bases" are huge creatures

Might not be that bad. Looks like it's trying the "Smite 2.0" route.

Keep in mind I hate ASSFAGGOTS with a passion
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>>253309069
I named 2 other examples
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>>253308991
>MOBAs are only fun with friends
uhh no
playing dota with friends is the quickest way to hate your friends
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>>253308782
So you've never played dota 2?
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>>253308891
>filename
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>>253308891
I thought SMITE was alright and last night had a dream about it and that almost made me want to reinstall it

What the fuck I haven't played in months.
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>>253309070
>grimdark
>dota
lel
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Looks like wow on low texture quality
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>>253308389
>Just right after fighting games will get popular again
The fact MOBAs are popular are proof that fighting games will never be. They pretty much work inversely, and you can't win out of pure luck of having good teammates in a fighting game so that's out.

If this place is supposed to be anti-casual and even HERE they aren't popular that's how you know they really aren't for everyone anymore. Not with the existence of the internet molding the metagame globally.
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>>253308838
MOBA is already on decline
>LoL's population started decreasing in the past 12 months :)
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>>253309070

>grimdark
>dota
>valve

you wo0t m8?
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>>253309189
you know I've posted that a million times and I never knew if anyone found it funny
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>>253309059
The core of the genre is basically just a hero arena with additional map objectives, I have no idea why /v/ seems to think that the genre is inherently shit oh wait it's because /v/ is filled with ignorant blowhard complainers
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>>253309170
I can confirm this. It takes superhuman will not to start shouting at them.
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>>253308812
>Those fucking animated portraits.
WC3 unit portraits where pretty impressive in their time so Valve had to do the same.
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>>253309114
And awesomenauts is a sidescroller but it's still a MOBA.
What's your point?
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>>253309143
>2 other examples
>"4craft or just anywhere else"
>"anywhere else" is an example

kek
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>>253309189
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>>253308496
Whats the other one that got announced?
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Aren't MOBAs pay2win? How can they be truly competitive games if you have to pay for better stuff?
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>>253309186
Are you telling me DOTA2 doesn't have cartooney graphics, that it takes quick reflexes or that it takes strategy?
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>>253309305
it's funny
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>>253305209
>MOBA

into the fiery depths of hell it goes
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>>253309043
>>253308857
>>253308620
>>253308503
>>253308412
>>253308318
>>253307641
>>253306042
>>253305209
>you will never get paid to shill on /v/ like these guys
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>>253305209
>don't texture anything because you're lazy
>muh artstyle
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>>253309206
>>253309291
>angry faces with glowing eyes is no longer considered grimdark on /v/

I hope someone makes a spiritual successor to 4chan one day, we really need one NOW.
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>>253308993

Fuck off kid.
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>>253309170
Wrong. Although it IS the quickest way to see if your friend sucks at games.
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>>253309512
so you've never played dota?
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>>253309532
>He will never get good at dota.
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>>253309585

dota 2 probably has the least glowing eyes of the genre.
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>>253309069
When do you guys will finally understand that /v/ IS the containment board and Moot did /vg/ and /vr/ only for people wanting to actually talk about video games ?
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>>253308891
Vocal minority. You can be sure we'll have constant threads during TI4.
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http://www.gogigantic.com
>From the very beginning, our goal was not just to make an awesome free-to-play online game. We wanted to make the best online game, period.
>best online game, period
Jesus it's like the entire dev team is made up of pathetic marketeers.
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>>253308891
Just people hating the enre after a bad game, they'll log back in tommorrow wanting nothing more than to play another match.
Same thing with fighters. Lost a round to some cheesy strat? Go and write on message boards the whole genre is shit. Come back 20 minutes later wanting to play another.
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>>253309532

I wish I got paid to spout opinions.
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>>253309532
I didn't even defend the game, I just said people are making claims that don't even make sense or seem slightly true.

This isn't /x/, take off your tinfoil hat.
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>>253308880
Any friends who play LoL are just as insufferable as the community. And I've played other MOBAs. Fucking Dota2 is the same shit only it's got the people who think they're too hardcore for league. The entire genre is fucking shit just because of the communities.
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>>253308812
It looks like fucking dogshit, you can't tell anything apart it looks like ass dude
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>>253309170
>getting mad at video games

You only have yourself to blame for acting like a sperg.
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>>253309170
You are talking about shit friends
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Oh look, a future failure.
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>>253308880
this is the only way to play ASSFAGGOTS.
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Sometimes I don't understand you people...

>WoW comes out
>popularizes a genre
>everybody start making it
>everybody hates new MMOs because they try to copy WoW

>time passes

>LoL comes out
>popularizes the genre
>everybody starts making it
>everybody hates new MOBAs because they try to copy LoL

>times passes

>X comes out
>popularizes the genre
>everybody starts making it
>everybody hates Y because they try to copy X

Why are you people so mad when this is the natural order of the video game industry?
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>>253309705
>wanting to make a good game makes you a marketer
what
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>>253309705

>being enthusiastic is a bad thing

This is a good base to work on. I don't know them or their work but I'd prefer enthusiasm over anything else.
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>>253305209
its fantasy

FUCK
why cant there be other mobas
cyberpunk, sci-fi, modern times
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>>253305209
looked cool. i like the atmosphere. and that owl guy with the cat was kawaii
not going to play it though, because i have Dota 2
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>>253309317
>hero arena with additional map objectives
What does that even mean? Are you trying to tell me MOBA is the new term for team based online games? Is TF2 a MOBA now? There are heroes in it, there are objectives and there are teams.
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>>253309661
used to be in VH bracket back when I was still playing (TI2 days)

what about you champ?
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>>253309170
I have a good time with friends on it, if anything it just gets you more familiar with others.
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>>253309874
It's not even for that reason
people just don't like anyone else to like things they don't like
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Just what we need, another fucking MOBA. Not like there are already a billion of them that no one plays.
>Dota 2
>LoL
>HoN
>Smite
>That LOTR one
>Battleborn
>Heroes of the Storm
>Dead Island: Epidemic

The Genre is so oversaturated it's not even funny.
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>>253307904
I was was to mention that as well, I swear I heard that shit in Diablo 2 12 years ago.
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>>253305209
It didn't seem neat until that bit where they showed fucking gameplay. Is the nexus/ancient/whatever in this supposed to be a giant monster to kill? I'll try it if that's the case, and I don't care for MOBAs.
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>>253309945

dude i didnt even know how to play and I got in very high games.
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>>253305429
You're a faggot. the best part of dota is the artstyle.
It's the gameplay that's awful.
Also, I think it's funny they chose MOBA since I'm pretty sure Multiplayer Online Battle Arena is a term that can be used on 90% of all multiplayer games.
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>>253306157
holy shit that reminds me a lot of ratchet and clank's metrapolis
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>>253309406
The Witcher: Battle Arena

>>253309945
I've never played it.
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>>253307291
It's coming on PS4/XBONE
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I'm going to play this game, and if I don't like it, I'm just gonna go back and play DotA 2.
And there's literally NOTHING you can do to stop me.

>inb4 no one cares
This thread so far proves otherwise.
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>>253309908
THIS

Actually, i would play the fuck out of a moba in the 40k universe
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>>253309893
>>253309901
With an amazing portfolio of work consisting of FUCKING NOTHING you don't just come out of the woods and go "we'll make the best game ever trust us guys come on guys please here's a prerendered trailer". That's just kinda pathetic.
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Enjoy losing millions of your investors' money on this pile of shit. Hopefully you'll include your marketing gig with this studio on your resume so future employers can quickly shred it.
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>>253309202
SMITE's pretty fun although a little simplistic compared to others.

It's definitely the MOBA that adds something different.
>Game in 3rd person perspective
>Everyone has a skillshot
Good game design choices right there.
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>>253308687
>>253308691
>>253308815
It's pretty obvious that MMORPGs was my intention, I admit I could have specified better, but realistically, who thinks of anything besides MMORPGs when that acronym is used? Especially since most people and even google's first result associate it with WoW. Either way MMOs not being a genre was pretty much proven in the second half of that quote.

>MMO = Genre
>RPG = Genre
>MMORPGs = Combination of MMO and RPG

Bottomline is, DOTAclones and WOWkillers are pretty damn stagnant
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>>253310187
That got announced over a week ago you fucking chode.
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>>253309532
>>253308990
>>253309494
>>253309640
>>253309854

Shilling is a myth
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>Actually marketing on /v/
I know you want to make quick buck, but there are better ways of doing it.
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>>253305209
>Alright, shooters are finally being replaced by another genre!
>it's MOBAs

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKK OOOOOOOOOOFFFFFFFFFFF
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>>253310219
GARBAGEBOX GETTING BLOWN THE FUCK OUT


BLOWN
THE
FUCK
OUT
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>>253310060
You can say that for every genre.
>WOW ANOTHER FPS? HOW MANY DO WE HAVE SO FAR?
>Call of Duty
>Battlefield
>Quake
>Doom

>WOW ANOTHER RPG? HOW MANY DO WE HAVE SO FAR?
>Mass Effect (ooh this one fits in the other category too)
>Dragon Age
>Elder Scrolls

>WOW ANOTHER APRG OR WHATEVER GENRE DIABLO IS? HOW MANY DO WE HAVE SO FAR?
>Diablo 1-3
>Path of Exile
>Van Helsing
>Grimdawn
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>>253309512
I don't see what cartooney graphics has to do with who it's targeted at. The Wonderful 101 has cartooney graphics to a much greater extent than dota 2 and I'd like to see an 11 year old beat it on 101% hard.

And t's certainly more than "memorize some hotkeys." And yes, at a higher level it certainly does require quick reflexes and strategy. But you probably just rage quit a few games and got put in low priority or you didn't play it.
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>>253310379
Fuck, that looks exactly like my cat.
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>>253310060

Compared to the MMO market that tries to copy WoW, that's isn't even close to oversaturated.
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>>253310317
It's gearbox isn't it?

I remember them spamming the board like mad back when borderlands 1 had first came out, (before the trolls picked up on it and started spamming as well)

fucking shitstains
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>>253310379
See it as a chance to talk directly to devs, anon. I know I do.
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>>253305209
I was thinking that we don't need another new MOBA, but seeing the end gameplay clip, it really looks different.

Game developers really shouldn't put MOBA if it really isn't like Dota 2.

And I'd be down for the third person perspective MOBA since Smite fucking shit itself a few months back and is literally League.
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>>253305209
Yay marketing!
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Seems like it might have some good husbandos.
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>>253310317
Yes discussing games and not being a jaded cynical fuck means you are a marketer, fuck off
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>>253305209
OH WOW A MOBA FOR FURRYFAGS SO AMAZING
MUH HY┬┤PE

retards
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>>253305209

Have you no fucking shame?

You're not even trying to hide the fact you're marketing.
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>>253306918
I have 800+hours in dota/lol put together. really REALLY hope it dies soon because its fucking awful.
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Well, at least they tried to do something different from the competition. And I love the art style too, we need more of this kinde of stuff.

Not gonna play it tho, to much to do with the games comming up in the next few months
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>he is posts on 4chan
>he gets paid to shill on /v/
>he lives in a third world country
>he has no soul and will try to sell anything
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>>253310481
just don't even bother

people who've never played dota will always assume it's a "low skill starcraft" or something equally dumb like MMO pvp

i've given up trying to explain it to people
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>some shitty devs that just started up and have yet to make any good games can somehow afford to get 10+ marketers at the same time
is /v/ full of children oh wait it is what am i thinking or have you just never had jobs or even realized how money works
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>>253305209

oh boy another unfunny gear box game! eppibc gais, up boated 10/10 :D
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>>253310576

True that
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>>253310581
>Op made 2 threads that are exactly the same
>gearbox advertised BL on /v/ in the past
Totally not marketing at all.
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>>253306545
teamplay can make every turd somewhat interesting, but mobas are still just that, shit.
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>>253310465
Except MOBAs aren't completable, you play them forever. Which is why the market gets oversaturated super fast. With FPS or RPG you play it for a week and you move on. With MOBAs faggots waste years playing one single game.
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>>253310771
>all the people shitting on dota/lol post screenshots proving that they've played them for hundreds of hours
>"they just don't understand my deep complex game, they'v enever played it ;("
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>>253310556
Gearbox announced a new MOBA today too

But not this one
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>>253310209

who gives a shit. They arent selling you anything. they're in the business of getting attention right now.
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League Of Legends
Dota 2
Heroes Of Newerth
Dawngate
Infinite Crisis
Gigantic
Strife
Battleborn

im fucking sick of ASSFAGGOTS
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>>253310863
>With MOBAs faggots waste years playing one single game.

>getting upset over people playing a game.
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>>253308993
Nah.
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STOP SAYING ITS MARKETING YOU SHITS

CAN WE NOT DISCUSS UPCOMING GAMES WITHOUT YOU PARANOID IDOITS SHITTING UP THE THREAD
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>>253310060
Infinite Crysis
Strife
Arena of Fate
Magicka Wizard Wars
Dawngate

This genre needs more games.
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>>253310968
> they're in the business of getting attention right now.
Which isn't allowed on /v/.
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>>253310581
I guess you weren't here for the Battlefield 3 dinosaur thread.
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>>253311024
What about the witcher moba?
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>>253310465
I'd pay good money to see your faces at the office when this turd you are planning on releasing goes in "open beta" and fails to hit more than 700 viewers on twitch
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>>253310863
Okay? And this is a bad thing? A game you spend money on/have fun playing should last quite some time, no?

Or you prefer the story ending in a few hours and not always being satisfying.

Besides, it's not like there aren't constant streams of other games coming out, and it's also not like it's the only game that the players play.
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>>253311058
I don't want to get fired, anon. So I'll pretend to be marketed too.

I agree this game looks pretty fun
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>>253310465
Except, only the MOBA genre lacks a single game that is the "dream game" of its developers.

You don't see a single MOBA developer saying, "You know, all of my life, I've been waiting for this moment, and I'm going to put my heart and souls into making a game that I think is the perfect game."

No, the whole genre is just cash-grabs and publicity stunts.
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>>253311034
Just because I think they're faggots doesn't mean I'm bothered by it in any way.
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>>253310930
please point me to these posts, i havent seen any in this thread

pic related is me
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>>253310845
Yeah buddy it's the same person
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>>253310863
>With FPS or RPG you play it for a week and you move on.
So how is the xbox one?
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>>253311058
You failed to notice the exact same thread that was made?
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>>253310930
>all the people
>maybe one or two
>not even the guy I was arguing with
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>>253311145
Good thing I'm not gonna play the game. I'm just saying that you're acting ridiculous.
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>>253311182
want me to help you wipe your ass as well while I'm at it? ctrl+f bitch use it
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>>253311149
>And this is a bad thing?
What? I'm just saying MOBA market is oversaturated and I'm explaining why. I don't care if you play it for 100 hours, that's your life wasted, not mine.
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>>253311110

People are allowed to talk about upcoming games.
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>>253308171
And I'll do it again
MOBA is a shit genre in general
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>>253311209
Way to miss the point faggot.
But please continue to enable marketers on /v/.
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>>253311024
You could fill pages of games with platformers only you know. Just get over the fact you are an hipster trash that can't enjoy something simply because it is popular at the moment.

... Oh wait what am I thinking, I'm on /v/.
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I want assfaggots based on military
where rather than push with your waves of minions you sabotage the enemy
there will be primarily 3 type of characters
sapper - wrecks the enemy base
hunter - kill em sappers
commander - controls troops and helps the actual pushing
items all change the gamplay drastically rather than being stats
the equivalent of creep camps will be merks that you can pay off to fight for you, there will also be neutral slow,but mobile structures that passively generate gold(they drop it but you have to walk to it and get it,making stealing viable)
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Why do we need so many mobas?
I think an easy entry level moba and a advanced moba are enough.
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>>253311073
Kingdom of Fighters also getting a moba.

http://shoryuken.com/2013/08/26/king-of-fighters-moba-in-development-closed-thai-beta-begins-september-4/
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>>253311165
Yeah, because that's definitely what happened with 90% of current games, right?

Besides, how do you know that isn't exactly what happened? Like I said earlier, you're just making baseless claims from what you can see on the outside.
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>>253305209
>New MOBA
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It seems like every fucking month of 2014 a new ASSFAGGOTS is announced. Why? Whats the fucking point? Everything will just compete for scraps from the shitty players who couldn't get into dota or lol.
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>>253311024
Theres atleast 20+ others that existed that you probably never played/heard of
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>>253305209
>Horns
>Four ears
>Hunched pose
>Beast race

WHERE HAVE I SEEN THIS BEFORE
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>>253311378
>People are allowed to talk about upcoming games.
No shit.
But spam/advertising isn't allowed.
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>>253311392
Stay paranoid faggot, i will enjoy playing games while you shitpost on here
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>>253311416
>dota
>advanced

your average dota player would space out in a LoL teamfight because it actually needs good reflexes and quick thinking
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>>253311058
>tfw the game looks so aesthetically pleasing that i couldn't care less if it was marketing
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>>253311238
Huh? Most SP games have 30-40 hours of content tops. That's a week if you're a NEET. So what exactly are you trying to say? That only Xbox players like SP games?
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>>253311396
so why is that kid pregnant?
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>Second third-person Moba with a cartoony artstyle by industry vets announced this month
What the fuck is going on
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>>253311548

It's the shit I jack off to.
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>>253311575
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>>253311558
>2 threads with the same video and comment
>paranoid
Yeah, ok.
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>>253306626
But I fucking love Quake.
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>>253311384
Multiplayer Online Battle Arena
Think of it.
This doesn't just cover games like Dota 2.

This includes a game like Quake Arena.
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>>253311396
>any of the games i listed
>hipster trash
I've never played a moba game beyond 2 hours on dota 2.
I only give a fuck about arena shooters(quake-esque shooters) and yet i know all the names of the games i listed.
Seeing an advertisement doesn't mean somebody is into hipster trash
>>
>new
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>>253311617
how is babby formed / how girl get pragnent?
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>>253311330
nice compelling argument. you've clearly proven that ARTS/MOBAs are the inferior genre
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New MOBA!
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>>253311584
This.
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>>253311490
>280 replies
>No one cares
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>>253311617
malnutrition causes gases to form in your stomach that make you basically like a balloon. That kid won't certainly pass the age of ten
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>>253311058
>there are people marketing in the thread RIGHT NOW
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>>253311596
playing a video game for 30-40 hours a week usually means your a loser neckbeard
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>>253311584
So, how much do you get paid for posting shit like this ?
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>>253311714
You heard me
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I didn't see any mention of PVP in the thing, is this just 5 player co-op PVE? Taking the only part out of the genre thats worth a damn, fighting other players?
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>furry moba
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>>253305209
Please stop, marketer.
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>>253311575
wtf????
this has to be a joke.
I remember playing league of legends.
IT IS the definition of autism.
like I thought I was so Pro feeding off fucking retards going 20/1.
then the game revealed its true nature. it's pretty much just a test of who can be more passive aggressive and just a complete faggot.
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>everybody getting mad over the statement that the game is a MOBA
>The word "MOBA" isn't even mentioned once anywhere on the official site
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>>253310315
>chode
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Why do people keep making new MOBAs? League and Dota dominate that market. Every other MOBA has been a failure. Maybe Blizzard's won't be nearly as much, but it'll still be a huge waste of resources (which Blizzard seems ot lack quite a lot). It's like all the shitty companies making Sonic ripoffs back during the early 90's and Mario 64 ripoffs midway through the 90's.
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>>253311846
People care about the shitposting, not about the moba
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>>253311632
>look Bill, that Dota thing sure looks popular. Looks like a golden opportunity
Remember, it only takes executives half a decade to realise a popular thing is popular for a reason.
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>>253305209
Disgusting furry shit.

Would not play
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I really like the art style, shame it's wasted on a genre of game I fucking despise. I'd play an action adventure platformer starring the owl swordsman alone.
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>>253311575
>my piece of shit smells better than yours!

fuck off assfaggot
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>>253309705
>Scroll down a long ways to get info on the game
I swear there was another fucking cartoony moba website that had the exact same gimmick
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>>253307148
God, why can't the art have gone into something decent?
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>>253308891
>go to dota 2 general
Everyones just bitching about league
>go to lol general
everyones just acting retarded

I tried to talk about the games but no one else wanted to.
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>>253311714
start using the term team-based RTS or team RTS
people get absolutely assblasted because of how correct it is
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>>253311896
>playing a video game for 30-40 hours a week usually means your a loser neckbeard
Yeah, and your point is?
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>>253311681
If your story is true that there really are marketeers on /v/, what do you lose exactly?
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>>253311058
No true /v/irgin will genuinely make a thread about a new assfaggot. Even the ones who like assfaggots only play dota2 and lol. Only a shill could pretend to be excited for this heap of shit.
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>>253311902
Well, he's right actually. MOBAs may be fucking shit but the artstyle and character designs are very vibrant as opposed the fucking neon abortion Riot calls an artstyle. It's just a shame it's wasted on a shitty genre.
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>>253311902
15$ an hour
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>absolutely no fucking fun allowed
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>all these replies to a shill thread

this place just gets worse and worse every day
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>>253309874
Because everything is a copy of a copy of a copy.

It's not the same to make a game based on a theme, than copying shit from another and changing it so it looks different.

Runescape had success as WoW.
I enjoyed both Doom and Serious Sam.
Similar themes.
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>F2P
>have to unlock heroes with ingame currency
Well now it has no chance of beating Dota 2, and nothing but Dota 2 has a chance at beating League.

Why do people even fucking try? First the MMO bubble now this
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>>253311548
OH WAIT
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>a new moba
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>>253312145
I prefer to just call them what they are: dotaclones.
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>>253311714
But it doesent

You can argue the dictionary definition of the words in moba all day, but in modern context they have a very distinct connotation

You level up, get skills, go down lanes, get minions, get money, fight other players, take out the base, pay for skins. That is a MOBA
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A 3rd person action MOBA

Now where have I seen that and fail?

Oh right.
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The artstyle and character designs are pretty nice, I like them.

Can't wait to see them ruined by fucking steampunk skins and hats
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>>253312168
>No true /v/irgin
plz shitty

>>253312329
but what's dota then?
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>>253312159
>what do you lose exactly?
A place to talk about vidya without marketers.
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>cool art style
>it's a fucking tps

all interest vanished
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>>253312336

No thats an arts or assfaggots or aos

moba includes: Monday night combat, brawl busters, archeblade
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Looks like what gearbox were attempting to do with theirs. but it doesn't look visually garbage like theirs did.
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>>253312347
That's for re-opening that wound, asshole.
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>>253312316
Now compare that to FPS, TPS, and platformers. Go I will wait
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>>253306482
this guy gets it
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>2 TPS F2P MOBA games announced
I guess Cliffy will have to start from scratch now.
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Its going to have a small playerbase and die

Gearbox LITERALLY announced a FPS MOBA with the same artstyle like fucking two weeks ago. All these shit games just going to feed off each other too much and die, and holy fuck they are all F2P shit too
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>>253312545
>noko+
Why?
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>>253312280
How exactly OP's game is a Dota clone ? The simple fact that it is third person makes it a totally different game, also, Doom and SS are as different as Dota and league are
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Personally, I think the trailer looks alright. Sure, I do like the art style, however, It's sad to see everybody is jumping on the "dota/moba/ASSFAGGOTS" train considering how cancerous the genre is.
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>>253312489
Publishers and devs call them arts
But the public calls them mobas

The public is wrong to call them mobas, but that is what they call them so that is what they are
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>>253305209

>tfw you will never see a 40k moba in your lifetime
>tfw you will never offer skulls for the skull throne playing as Kharn nor suckerpunch an avatar as Robot guilliman
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>>253312571
They can always fall-back on Fortnite, AKA Schrodinger's Cat Simulator
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FOR FUCK SAKES YOU GUYS WE JUST MADE THE GAME TO GET HYPE. OF COURSE IT LOOKS LIKE CRAP IT'S IN BETA.
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>>253306482
Seeing as how brazilians are going sell their TVs and soccer merchandise now they should be able to afford better computers.
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>>253312606
Gearbox's is a FPS and full-retail title
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>>253309492
In LoL the only thing you can't buy with in game money is Skins and XP/IP boosts which you don't need.
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>>253312382
Defense of the ancients All Stars
It's basically just a melting pot of all of these types of games then they combined the best chars together.
Honestly, Dota is just a distillation of the essence of Warcraft 3. It's just simplified. Honestly, warcraft 3 had a great modding community and great modding tools but as a whole the game kind've ruined video games.
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>>253312632
It's F2P.

The artsyle is gonna last maybe a month until they come out with fucking retarded cosmetics
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>>253312658
The only people who are forcing MOBA are riot and league players.
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>>253312392

I believe that marketeers have been here from the start, the thing is, the ones from EA and the lot, are more easily spotted than the rest since they suck at being subtle
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>>253305209

>art style
>dota light

ok lol
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>>253312683
>Robot

I want to play a Sister
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>>253305209
>3rd person shooter MOBA

So it's SMNC all over again?

fine with me, I loved SMNC. It was one of my favorite MOBAs right next to Awesomenauts
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>>253312505
Sorry mate. I too miss playing as my Assassin and Veteran.
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No, but seriously, why does /v/ hate this genre so much?
How is any other multiplayer game better than this?
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>>253309492
Dota 2 is not. Nor is HoN
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>>253312871
>Honestly, Dota is just a distillation of the essence of Warcraft 3. It's just simplified.
i 100% agree, that's why i have no problem calling dota what it is: a team-based RTS
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>>253312857
Dont forget to mention that you gain so little IP that it takes about a month t buy a champ and completing a rune for competitive play will take you months.
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>>253312683
>you will never get a game where you play as a Warboss and lead a WAAAAAGH
>Ork Fortress will never be a thing
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>>253312896
They really weren't though.
They came around 2008, when 4chan became popular.
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>>253305209
>new game
>its a moba
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>>253312871
>it ruined video games
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Corporate shills please go
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>>253312505
Actually, that game was cool.
BUT IT had a core problem. It was more about experience then money so leaving lane was a gigantic mistake. Basically the same problem with league of legends 5v5
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>>253312850
I did say FPS, shooter MOBAs never work. The mechanics are never deep enough to keep things interesting.

Full retail? Are they full retard? Unless it comes with guaranteed free DLC/patches with heroes its going to die because if they want to spend 60 dollars on a game they might as well go play a F2P title and get 60 dollars worth of heroes
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Can MOBAs please fuck off.
I can't believe that dota 2 shit raised over $10 million. MOBAs killed good competitive games and caused a wave of f2p and microtransaction shit.
Fuck MOBAs and anyone who plays them.
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>>253312857
... And champion ? which you fucking need on ranked. And don't tell me you will farm the IP for them, it would take months of farming only to have the basic roster of the current meta, which would have changed in the time being.
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>>253313276
Moba's have been around longer than you've been alive.
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>>253308812
DOTA 2's art style looks pretty fucking bad, to be honest. Even League seems more consistent from what I've seen.
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>>253312658

if by public you mean selective public
>>253312889 this guy has it right
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>>253311548
>>253312314
it's not four ears you dolt.

it's clearly just a pair with pointy tips and lobes.
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>>253313289
>lol meta
>changing
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>>253309585
edgy isnt grimdark, kid
but i can point you to a more fitting website
reddit
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>>253312347
god dammit uber
all you had to do was re-release MNC with slightly prettier graphics and we would have thrown money at you
but no, you had to make the game slower and less exciting to appeal to the casuals, and then you "released" the half-finished beta because of an error that valve made
fuck you
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>>253313289
Fuck the meta. Use whoever you want. The meta changes so fast anyways that it's pointless to try and keep up.
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>>253313276
Mobas are fine as long as they're confined to just ruining the RTS genre. I don't like them moving on to TPS though.
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>>253313027
They'll claim it's "casual" despite new players getting anally pounded for many games, having to be aware of a lot of information, and having to remember what every heroes ability does, what the items do and how those abilities react with certain items.
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>>253305209
>New MOBA!

I bet their next project is a WoW-clone
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>new moba

I'm so fucking tired of this shit. I even play ASSFAGGOTS myself but there doesn't need to be more than the one good one that's out right now.
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>>253312996
Same here, I'm hopeful this one will last longer
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>>253313618
just like there doesnt need to be an MMO other than WoW
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League of Legends, Dawngate, Smite, DOTA2, and Heroes of the Storm are the only ones worth playing.
They've all done something different.

League of Legends is the base for the genre

Dawngate simplifies the item system slightly and uses a map more along the lines of LoL's twisted treeline

Smite is a third person game, every skill is a skill shot

DOTA2 is a flat out copy of DotA, except with WC3 limitations now claimed as features

Heroes of the Storm takes an entirely different direction, it has base building, heroes that are meant to stay in the base, and other things.
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why is there so much hate for dota?
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hopefully mobas get saturated with clones and kill the whole genre
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>>253313606
One of the best episodes, btw.
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>>253313592
No, that would have been their previous project.
Their next project will be a Hearthstone clone.
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>this is an actual image on the game website
What is this, a fucking game? The whole website feels like a cheap pitch to the executives with stock photos of happy people.
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>>253313484
Enjoy your bronze scum

>>253313434
Riot Releases an OP champion every month or so, see Braum : current perma pick/ban
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>>253313817
League isn't worth playing and it definitely doesn't do something different.

>League of Legends is the base for the genre
That'd be dota/dota 2
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viral pls go
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>>253308000
I met a guy at a friends house recently with an Alienware laptop that was playing LoL. We were all hanging out playing other vidya except for that guy who stuck to himself the entire time I was there.

I did notice though the game itself fucks with the LED colors of the laptop in real time which was kinda neat.
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>>253313817
>except with WC3 limitations now claimed as features
Fucking this. I wish they'd grown some goddamned balls and made it a proper sequel. Without all the pointless "oh but it was in WC3 so it's going in" bullshit.

It could have been great...
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>>253313942
>Enjoy your bronze scum
>Caring about ranked
>Not just having fun
Who cares about Ranked?
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>>253310481
>I don't see what cartooney graphics has to do with who it's targeted at.
Really?
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>>253313817

>LoL is the base for the genre

Post trashed
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>>253313550
Indeed.
The correct way to design games is to inject complexity into your game, simply add lots of things with no correlation whatsoever, forcing the player to memorize lots of information.
The INCORRECT way to design games is to create a system that has many very simple mechanics that you are aware of from the beginning but that combine together, an analog system if you will, that forces you to solve for each relative completely different situation. What if the players get lost? We don't want players having to think outside of the meta.
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>>253314040
You're talking to a lol babby. He didn't play DotA. Since the universe revolves around him and League was the first game of the kind he played, League is the base.
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>>253313550
>S-see? You have to remember some stuff!
>ASSFAGGOTS aren't casual!
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>>253313836
Because its too hard for most. I'll play the odd League game for an easy win since I just don't have the time anymore
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>>253306679
How can you tell the momentum of the bottles from a still picture? Ever heard of centripetal force, the thing that lets you swing a bucket of water around your head without it falling out? Or were you just trying to be a smart-ass without actually being smart?
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>>253314040
>League isn't worth playing and it definitely doesn't do something different.
Opinion
>That'd be dota/dota 2
no one copies dota/dota2

>>253314154
no one is going to copy your game, dotard.
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>>253313732
The thing is, dota is not a fucking genre, it's a very, very specific game. The checklist for what constitutes an ASSFAGGOTS game is so huge that the differences are largely cosmetic or in all the ways that don't affect gameplay too severely.

It's less like making a competing MMO to WoW, and more like making a competing game to Chess called Super Chess that has a rainbow chess board and replaces the king with a dildo shaped chess piece that can move TWO spaces at a time HOLY SHIT WE'RE SO DIFFERENT PLEASE GIVE US MONEY.
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>>253314220
>Calling MOBAs casual
You can't be this stupid.
Few games need as much knowledge just to do slightly well as MOBAs do.
You need to learn what each character, item, gameplay mechanic, and skill does, and how they interact.
Not to mention their difficulty is DIRECTLY proportional to the skill of your enemies, not any different to the way fighting games or arena shooters work.
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Snipin's a good job, mate
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>>253313940

there are images and words that describe the game as well as a trailer.
A few photos of the devs isnt that bad.
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>>253308389
>game where friends/teammates can carry your shit ass to victory while you blow harder than a prostitute
>similar to a genre where the only person keeping you from winning is yourself

I wish we could anon. I want an EVO with an actual large prize pool.
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>>253314084
I know anon, I know.
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>>253314220
It's the same people that claim Dark souls is hard.
You only need common sense, but apparently that's difficult for some.
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>>253314135

>cartoony graphics
>this game is for kids

>grimdark graphics
>this game is for edgy faggots

>anime graphics
>this game is for weeaboos

>voxel graphics
>this game is for autists
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>>253308782
>>253307892
>>253309512
>>253314135
MOBAs have cartoony graphics so even toasters can run them

nothing to do with "target audience"
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>>253314296

thats funny because that's exactly how MMOs after WoW felt.
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>>253314242
>centripetal

I think you mean centrifugal. ;)
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No gameplay no care. I heard some GW1 pvp devs and good gw1 beta testers were involved, so I'm kind of excited.
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>>253312683
>what is DOW 2
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>>253314428
Yes.
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>>253314135
A game can be targeted to more than a single group of people. Disney movies have cartooney visuals, but still keep in mind older audiences.

http://youtu.be/U3NoDEu7kpg
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>>253314428
>Caring about graphics
Make a Dorf Fort moba then we'll talk
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>>253314443
They use cartoony graphics to appeal to a broader audience including children and females.
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>>253314304

Nice denial, bro.
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>>253314621
Frozen a shit, tho
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>>253314104
People actually good at the game scrub
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>>253314084
The main issues with Dota 2 that I have is that it still uses the mana system, and some of the cooldowns are ridiculous

>playing support
>cast your spell combo with ult
>wait 5 minutes for mana to recharge
>fun

>playing Enigma
>"Oh wow, I have a cool ulti"
>use ulti
>wait 3 minutes to recharge
>fun
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>>253314712
>No counter-arguments at all.
To be expected.
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Yet another MOBA, Jesus Christ the genre is saturated as is.
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>>253314446
But there were still a few MMOs like Eve Online or Second Life that were really unique from WoW, because MMOs as a genre only needs like two things to be an MMO, which is a lot of players and a consistent world. With an ASSFAGGOTS it's like saying that all games in the genre are required to be at least 75% like dota in order to be an ASSFAGGOTS.
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>>253314685
no, they use them so the game wont be too graphically demanding
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>>253308250
>people who hate Mobas are idiots who raged at LoL and didn't have anyone to play with
Makes sense.
What doesn't make sense is idiots like you wanting other people to not have fun with games they enjoy.
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>>253310060
>>253311073

I'm guessing that LoL and Dota will only continue to gain popularity, another few niche titles with novel gimmicks will manage to stay afloat, and the rest are DOA. I mean seriously, 13+ games competing with each other in the same genre at the same time?
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>>253314189
I guess we should remove strafe jumping and rocket jumping from Quake, the player isn't immediately aware of it from the beginning. While were at it, let's make all fighting game characters have the same frame data for the light, medium, and heavy attacks. We wouldn't want players to have to learn anything like what moves are punishable. These mechanics only serve to make shit players feel bad and give good players some sense of reward for their knowledge of the game and their thought out plays.
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>>253314818
Not to mention the literal one-shot spells, 3+ seconds stuns and RNG bullshit.
I dont really know how people find Dota fun.
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>>253305209
>RPGS used to be the big thing on PC
>Online example would be Diablo II

>MMORPG used be the big thing
>example everquest, vanilla/early WoW

>those aread
>MOBA is bigger than any of them ever, MOBA is all anyone cares about, it's all that is coming out anymore
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>>253314789
Playing Ranked doesn't determine skill. It just means that you're willing to put more time into the game, as opposed ot someone who's satisfied with regular PvP.
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>>253314921

Not really. Have you ever seen bloodline champions?
That game was a moba and had a different pace and intensity than something like dota or LoL
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>>253313150
It's amusing how you can pick out the shills by the people who mention that they are "hype" when a game was pretty much just announced.

Seriously? I didn't get hype for Smash Bros until the Little Mac trailer.
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>>253311396
>that image

How can anyone look at that and assume he looks that way cause he's fat? Fat doesn't just stick to your stomach like that without going anywhere else. Kids clearly fucked up somehow.
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>>253314220
>ignores the rest of the post

If you have to memorize a lot of things, it's already the complete opposite of casual anyway. Casual implies a game can be picked up and the player can (almost) immediately understand what's going on. That isn't the case for dota 2 due to the numerous spells and heroes.
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>>253313817
>>253314084
>except with WC3 limitations now claimed as features
Which ones?
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>>253314296
There's no objective definition of the ASSFAGGOTS genre or how far the term can stretch, you can't just say that one needs all elements present in DotA. DotA in it's core is just an action game with strategic elements, there's tons of ways you can make one of those.
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>>253315126
I have, and it has all the same staples. It controls a little different, it feels a little different, but aside from the controls the overall game pretty much plays the same.
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>>253305296
>#groanzone
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>>253305209
Holy shit! ANOTHER MOBA! I hope it will die.
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How the fuck did this thread get 400+ replies?

...and you wonder why shills come here.
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>caring about assfaggots

jesus christ has /v/ really stooped this low now
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>>253314818
>not knowing why they need Black Hole to be that long
>What is mana consumables and regenerating items
i liek being new sometimes
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I really like the Natural selection/savage styled of gameplay.

I wish we had a influx of those instead
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>>253315017
>Remove strafe jumping.
I agree. You should increase the speed to account for the lost speed from strafe jumping.
>Rocket jumping.
No, you can easily infer that from the fact that rockets cause knockback.
You misread my post. I have no issue with mechanics that aren't immediately obvious. I have issues with arbitrary mechanics that you cannot infer with pattern recognition after playing the game for awhile. There should be no metagame. A good game each player has a style and you can feel it just based on the way they move their character.
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>>253315074
Nigger, this happens all the time. Eventually MOBAs will die out and everyone will move on to something else
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I hate these fads. First it was FPS for the longest time, and now MOBAs are on the rise.

When will JRPGs be in again like they were in the late 90's - early 00's?
I'm literally upset over this.
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>>253315301
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aemY7VmVpLE
It dies if you can watch all of this in one sitting
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Everyone shut the fuck up and post moba waifus.
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More gameplay from pre-alpha.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85zbb4YWHSI
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>>253314624

I dream of a day, when an AAA take Dorf Fort and just fucking finish it, no need to change anything. At this rate, the game will be finished by 2030. Fuck knows if the language it is being made in will still be compatible with the future hardware, and that's saying a lot.

That, and an AAA team making Space Station 13 a standalone version, yet again, nothing to change, just fix the broken engine.
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>>253315360
You are right.
People should not discuss videogames ever on the videogame board.
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>>253314296
Play as a single character
Push lanes
Level up
Objective is to ultimately destroy the enemies base

IMO that's all it really needs to be similar enough to dota, but have enough room to become it's own thing and then give the genre a name.
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>>253315064
>one shot spells
There are none
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>>253315541
Doesn't even need lanes IMO, just map control elements.
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How do we even know this is an assfaggots and not just some TPS?
Is there any actual announcement info anywhere?

I'd be pretty hyped if it is, there's no reason to make more RTS-perspective assfaggots anymore and we still haven't had a good Third person one. SMNC bombed and Smite isn't actually 3D or anything different.
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>>253314273
>implying copying a game should be the baseline for the fucking genre
Since AoS was so barebones compared to what DotA did, to the point its not even worth bringing up, DotA is the baseline for the genre.

Wanting your game to be copied ten times over to kill the genre is not the way to go. The horrible fact that some of the ripoffs have the same map layout is hilarious. Seriously, ripping off the fucking map ?
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what the fuck does an art style matter when you'll be playing the game zoomed all the way out to where the characters look like ants
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>>253315410
>When will JRPGs be in again like they were in the late 90's - early 00's?
when they stop being mediocre PS2 tier shit?
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>>253315261
it doesnt really have all the same staples.
its the same camera and it has skills.
Theres no minions theres no towers theres no items.
Theres no RPG elements such as leveling or advancing your character.
The way you move is different the camera movement is different.
It is pretty radically different.
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>>253315534
>People should not discuss shit videogame genres ever on the videogame board.
Fixed that for you.
Now fuck off to /vg/.
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>>253314736
I wasn't really referring to any movie in particular. I haven't seen Frozen yet anyway.
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>>253315524
Who the fuck would go out of their way to lose a shitload of money finishing your garbge fluid dynamics simulation?
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>>253315508
waifu runner
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No game comes as close as Warcraft 3 and Dota 2.
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Are there any cute girls in this?
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>>253307679
Looks like a mess of colours to be honest. It isnt terrible but it isnt good either.

Textures good be richer and higher res maybe. At the very least so you could tell what kind of fucking material anything is made off.
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>>253314863

How can I argue with somebody in denial?

I could point out that the ASSFAGGOTS player base is composed of casuals which right there makes it absurd to claim ASSFAGGOTS aren't casual, or that ASSFAGGOTS revolve around rote memorization and little to no actual thought or skill which is WHY the player base is composed of casuals, but what's the point?

You'll just shoot back some delusional bullshit about why ASSFAGGOTS are 2hardcore4u
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>Physics-based abilities
Stopped reading there.
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>>253315074
>it's all that is coming out anymore
You're delusional.
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>>253306626
It's almost as bad as MMOs
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>>253315220
Well to be an assfaggots you need:

- multiple heroes with unique abilities
- a level up system within matches that increases stats and the effectiveness of abilities
- creep waves that push towards an end goal
- powerful towers that the creeps help push down
- an end goal to destroy in the enemy's base
- an item or powerup system of some kind, similar to the level system but dealing in a separate ingame currency and applies to all characters (debatable)
- a fog of war mechanic (debatable)
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