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Is this really the greatest controller ever made?
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Is this really the greatest controller ever made?
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that would be the 360 controller
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>>253029997

It's at least tied with the 360 controller, though its d-pad is streets ahead of the 360 one.
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No, this is
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no -- it's an okay controller, but it's the most overhyped controller though
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>>253030195

Literally its only fault is that you can't use it with Xinput natively.
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>>253030195
>overhyped

Is that your one word way of saying, "I have no experience with this controller, but it's not MY favorite so I'm going to act like it's overrated?"
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I haven't had to charge the thing once since I bought it. It's crazy.
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In my humble opinion, I like this gamepad more than any other I have ever used. I have been console gaming since the N64.
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>>253030187
inb4 babyhanded faggots talk shit about the duke.

Are there any other dual analog controllers with 6 face buttons?
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>>253030532
Truuuu
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I prefer the 360's stick/button layout and the triggers can be better. Other than that it is perfect.
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>>253029997
JJ Abrams made a controller?
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>>253030468
This. 80 hours per charge is insane. The thing runs on nanomachines and unicorn dreams.
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>>253030532
Except the thing eats battery power like a game gear
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this is objectively and literally the best controller
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>>253029997
For 50 bucks it had better be.
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>>253030532
The seperated dpad makes me mad. It could have been perfect.
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>>253030603
>I prefer the 360's stick layout

>asymmetrical sticks
>ever good
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>>253030420
people act like this mediocre controller is the second coming of Jesus.

PlayStation 4lyfe.
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>>253030532

I can't use a PS3 controller since this came out.

Xbone is also freaking great... use it mostly for PC gaming.
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>>253030532
The D-pad and Shoulder buttons on the DS4 are amazing, but I hate else about the controller. The shit battery life, the annoying light, the terrible joysticks, and even the renaming of the Start/Select buttons.

I mean really, why would they rename those after its been established for nearly two decades on multiple systems?
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>>253030745
Best Buy has them on sale for $30 starting the week of July 20th.
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>>253030748
Why does this bother you? It's still a solid piece under the very center point.
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Step aside, faggots
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>>253029997
Yes, for anything that doesn't need analog triggers it is perfection
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>>253030774
Jesse?
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The inputs and buttons felt cheap and non restrictive when I used one which made me think of it as crap. How hard is it to use the ds phat d pad I mean fuck nintendo you had it right
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>>253030984
I prefer Mongolian supercontrollers.
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>>253030745
You realize that DS4 and Xbone controllers are $60, right?

And 360 and DS3 both bounce back and forth between $50 and $40.
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>>253030984
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>>253030785
Moshi moshi baito desu ne
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>>253029997
Yes.
85 hours of battery too.
Shame the triggers are digital but doesn't matter.
Rumble could be better (ps level) but its still great.
More colours.


But best controller ever made.
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>>253031008
>for anything that doesn't need analog triggers

I can't think of a single time I used analog triggers in my life as anything more than a digital button with massively long travel capability.
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>>253031063
>non restrictive
I meant resistive
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>>253031170
I would agree if I NEVER had to put down the Pro controller, but I can't even browse the store with it.
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>>253030740
Teach me how to Dougie.
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>>253030740

>no analog Doug button

What a piece of shit.
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>>253030567

There's only one person I know that calls the Xbox original controller "the Duke"
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>>253031205
Even the Gamecube had analog triggers, it's stupid that they went backwards on that
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>>253031294
Really? I've never noticed that. That really blows.

Wasn't the Pro available at launch? Why would they not make it compatible with everything?
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>>253031205
So no racing games then?
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>>253031480
Do you know that many people in general that talk about the original Xbox controller? I personally couldn't stand the S controller and needed the big guy.
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>>253031205
The only games that come to mind are sim racers (Forza, GT, etc.) and to a lesser extent arcade racers (Burnout, NFS, etc.)
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>buttons underneath the right analog stick

Is that comfortable? I've never used a controller like that before, is it easy to get used to?
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>>253031205
Any game where you drive something.

And Mario sunshine.
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>>253031197
>baito
Agurabeito desu na.
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>>253030740

What does the doug button do?
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>>253030532

It's Comfy as fuck to use the pad as a mouse for pc gaming.

No need to get up at all from where my ass is parked to start steam or ubi's shit
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>>253031553
It was available at launch. That particular issue makes it feel more like an accessory to me than a replace controller, though I have NOTHING but good things to say about it aside from this.
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>>253031539

You act like analog triggers are a good thing or some kind of objective advancement over digital triggers. I would rather have my buttons with as little travel time as possible, the only thing that needs to be analog is a stick.
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>>253030532
I got one just to use for PC and it's pretty damn good but I don't like the triggers and I've been told the analog stick can wear down really easily.
Also I don't like the analog placement as much as most other controllers for most games
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>>253031618
GTA, Mario Sunshine, Smash Bros Melee are some others
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>>253031710

It dougs.
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>>253031624
Yes, surprisingly so
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>>253030943

Hope this is true
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>>253030939
>The dpad is amazing

What the fuck? The dpad is it's biggest flaw
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>>253031587

The only racing games I've ever played either used a digital throttle or didn't need you to use anything other than full throttle.
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>>253031539

I agree with >>253031772
The only kind of games where you'd use that is racing games and if you're not pushing it to the metal, then you're doing it wrong.

Exception allowed: Gran Turismo I guess
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>>253031624
Yeah, I like it a lot better actually.

It makes the most sense to me because usually when you're playing a game you're using either all of the sticks and triggers for stuff like shooters and racing games, or you're using all the face buttons with the dpad for platformers, so everything is more grouped together.
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I dunno I've never tried one.
Might pick one up when Bayo2 comes out though.
Not too sure about the button placement but I'm sure I'l get used to it.
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>>253030532
The second worst controller ever built for a modern console only behind the awful original xbox controller.

Blandest and least thought out design with the least amount of uses, it is just a straight forward face with buttons and that is the only thing it is good for, the triggers and the sticks are shit, it is simply shit for anything that uses them and it is obvious they never even tried to make anything decent and just went for the most simple approach and stuck a bunch of shit together and called it a day.
I pitty the poor cripples that had to grow up getting accostumed to that filth.
They are victims to a mix of stockhholm syndrome after years of torture from that controller that actually made them love it and ended with disfigured mutilated hands that had to get used to using that contraption.
sony systems are the only case when I actually went ouf of my way to get third party controllers to play, they spared me the suffering and made the ps3 a much better experience.
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>>253030976
You can't switch between directions so easily. Have to move your thumb instead of just rolling

It's a bad way to play 2d platformers. And what else do you need a dpad for?
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>>253030187
Original xbox controller was glorious. Probably my favorite gamepad ever.
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>>253030976
Not him, but I always slid my thumb from side to side on the dpad. On this, you have to jump your thumb a bit. It's totally personal preference but for me the Nintendo dpad is perfect (specifically the 3ds one.)
It's like the gameboy A,B button setup some people like to play that way.
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>>253029997
Not even close. xbone is.

can't do the souls game crab grip on the wiiu controller, hence it's crap. Not because souls is so important, but because the design of the controller prevents you from doing something you can do on the other controllers.
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>>253031875
This is the leaked ad if you haven't seen it.
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>>253032235

That sounds weird as fuck to me.

I usually just press the pad with the highest curve point of my thumb (think 1/2 inch from the nail tip) so my thumb essentially just slides across all the directions.
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>>253031150
Looks like that's for racing game diehards. Like that HKS controller that people posted in these threads for years with the "please kill me" filename, not realizing that it's actually a fucking monster for racing games, the only thing it's intended for.
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>>253031949
On the DS4? I really love it. All I've really played on it are simple download titles that use the dpad heavily, and I've found it very quick, responsive, and comfortable.

I think its my favorite Dpad that I've used besides the one on the old DSs.
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Where can I get a good controller that'll work with my PC/Mandroid for less than $35? How does anyone afford a quad set of PS4/Ecksboner controllers?
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>>253030532
Baby thumb analog sticks. Other than that, it's alright.
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>>253032364

> buy one get one free

Holy shit man I'm getting my ass down there if true.
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>>253031453
You shut your whore mouth before you doug your own grave.
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>>253032578
It's just for the pictured games and doesn't start until next Sunday. It's still a very good deal.
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>>253032364
WHAT? They have more of the Dream Team 3DSs AND they're on sale? What the fuck, man.

I just bought a used one without the game for 190, and now its going to be less special.
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Is the pro controller compatible with PC?
e.g. can I use it like I would a DS3?

this is important
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>>253032364
Buy one get one free on 3DS games, and there is only one I want. I want Kirby super bad, but everything else I either already have or actively dislike.

Fuck.
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>>253032820

I would imagine so.

I can use my DS4 just fine with xinput (based touchpad for pc junk)
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I really wish nintendo would stop using gloss finish on everything. I fucking hate that shit.
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>>253033331

> not being man enough to take fine grit sandpaper to glossy shit and making it matte

Lowe's cant be that far from you
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>>253033331
>I really wish nintendo would stop using gloss finish on everything. I fucking hate that shit.

Right? Everything looks like shit after five minutes out of the box, and it will never look as good again. Same for half the PS4 and Xbone. I really wish that fad would die. I miss colored transparent plastic.
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>>253033440

That doesn't sound like a good idea
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>tfw gaming has become about controllers more than games
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>>253032549
>>253032820
>>253033040
I think I heard the pro controller has some issues with xinput but otherwise works fine with pc. Maybe someone else can confirm. It's also on sale next week. >>253032364
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Xbone controller still shit?
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>>253033626
Based on what? People can discuss controllers without liking them more than games.

You're being retarded.
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>>253033040
I just looked it up, and you can't use it without buying a dongle. Fuck that.

>>253033687
I already knew this, and for 30$, it's hella tempting regardless..

maybe when I have more money to spend.
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>>253032291
Somebody post a picture of you doing the grip I'm talking about since this is relevant to the discussion

You know the one I'm talking about. So you can run around and still do everything at the same time.
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>>253029997
>Wii U sticks
>not Wii U pro/nunchuk sticks
>no octogate

nah.
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>>253029997

>can't masturbate with rumble because it's shit
>digital shoulder buttons, which are worse than the gamepad's ones

It's a good controller, though.
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>>253033626

> 1 thread out of 200+ per hour is about controllers
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>>253033804
>I just looked it up, and you can't use it without buying a dongle. Fuck that.

micro usb cable, doof lord.
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>>253029997
It's ok. Better than PS3's, for sure.

But then it's Nintendo, so people will insist it's the greatest fucking thing ever and anyone who says otherwise is just a Nintendo-hater, shill, or fanboy of another system.
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>>253032364
Gonna Buy Mario Golf and Bravely Default, still haven't played it.
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>>253033626
Shut up xshit, nobody wants to talk about your failtroller
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>>253030187
>that start/select placement.
>not being able to pause with your thumb
Disgusting.
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Steel Battalion controller, niggers.
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No.
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>>253034708
This is the best one of these I've seen. Literally all I would do is swap DS4 and WiiUPro.
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>>253034708
I'd swap Sega Saturn with the DualShock 3.
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>>253034708
What about older systems?
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>>253029997
>all that grease and scratches all over that controller
that's fucking disgusting
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>>253030532
While it's a helluva lot better than the rotting fetus that was the DualShock 3, it's not quite as good as the Xbone Controller thanks to it's symmetrical sticks and piss-poor battery life, I'd say it's around the GameCube controller to me.
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>>253034708
so what did the Xbone controller fuck up?
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>>253029997
>Shiny cheap looking / feeling plastic
>shitty analog stick (huge deadzone and less sensitive)
>no triggers (they are digital buttons)

>NO TRIGGERS
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>>253035216
The gloss is probably the one thing I don't like about the controller. It does shows that shit really easily.
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>>253034708
>PS1 in low tier
go fuck yourself
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>>253030532
Better than previous dualshock designs, that's not really saying much though as they are all pretty bad
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>>253030532
I agree.
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>>253035216
>Not carelessly scratching and smudging all over your new $50 controller whilst having your hands covered in food and profusely sweating
Fag
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>>253035634
you are a tiny person or that controller is fucking huge
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>>253030532
Hadn't read the thread when I posted my image. I agree with this anon, the DS4 is my favourite controller.

People complain about the battery life, but even with the light not turned down it still lasts 12+ hours so I don't know what the big deal is.

>>253035089
The DS3 is too small, made of cheap as shit plastic, and has awful concave thumbsticks (well, so does the DS4, but it has those lips to make up for it.)

Whereas SS was comfy as fuck.

>>253035153
I grew up poor as fuck, and I'm only 21, so those are the only controllers I've used.

Can't judge what I haven't used.

>>253035314
The shape of the grips, the triggers, the rumble, the bumpers, the placement of the face buttons, the thumbsticks, and I've heard rumors the D-Pad doubles or drops input but I can't confirm.

>>253035742
The DS4 is bigger than the 360/xbone controllers.
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>>253035476
>NES Mid Tier
Nostaligafagging detected
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>>253030532
>>253035634
Right on.
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>>253030532
>>253035634


why ? what's so great about it ? I'm genuinely curious.
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>>253035742
it's just the angel of the shot. Iphone 4 camera is kinda weird sometimes.
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>>253030740
>doug
>faster
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>>253031772
>I would rather have my buttons with as little travel

>cfg
>Fire = LT > 0.15
There.
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If only it had matte finish
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After booting my PS3 after buying a bunch of games on sale this weekend did I realize how amazingly comfortable the Pro Controller is and how much I fucking hate the Dualshock 3. Probably the best thing about the Pro controller is that it feels so natural for both 2d and 3d games. Hell even playing OoT with it is enjoyable as using the right stick for items feels really fun.

I don't know if it's the best but I really fucking enjoy using it. The only downside I found with the thing is that the rumble is weaksauce.
>>253031539
That's the thing, really only racing and gamecube ever actually used analog triggers meaningfully. Most of the time they are just used as a digital input so a digital button is much more preferred. Like I enjoy playing Risk of Rain a lot more with my Wii U Pro Controller than the 360 controller just because of the digital triggers.
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>>253035832
So basically stick with the 360 controller and still hope for a decent PS-tier D-Pad mod?
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>>253035948
I can post a giant review I wrote a few days ago (3-4 posts long) when someone asked the same thing, if you like.

I spent so long typing I figured I ought to save it.
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>>253035948
It's more ergonomic than previous dualshocks, it fixes problems with the joysticks to a degree and it has a touchpad.

Every single other problem persists (poor positioning, questionable buttons, "Ok" build at most) but if you have been using dualshock controllers half your life it's the second coming of jesus.
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>>253030532
>I have been console gaming since the N64.

These kids are old enough to post on /v/.

/v/ will never have even the slightest modicum of quality again. Time to kill myself.
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In my opinion, GC is the GOAT.

360 comes in 2nd place.

Also, why is everyone sucking the dick of the DS4? It's honestly not that impressive. I've held it and played with it and it felt like any other DS controller, just with some gimmick slapped in the middle of it and a fucking "share" button.

I'd put the DS4 at mid-tier.
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Am I the only person that absolutely hates the Dualshock 3? I like the library of games on the PS3, but the controller is garbage.
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>>253036358
Good.
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>>253035948

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiA4I1jeEqc
just did this. it fits perfectly
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>>253036313
Well, in my opinion you should switch to the DS4.

But yes, otherwise just stick with 360. Xbone fixed the D-Pad and broke everything else.
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So what makes a good controller?
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>>253036487
I found that buying a cheap set of clip-on triggers improved my opinion of the DS3 greatly. I hate the default triggers on it.
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>>253036645
comfiness and input quality
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>>253036367
Fucking this.

Not sure what all the hype is about the DS4. It's the least shit in a pile of shit. Playstation owners finally get a decent controller after all these years and now they proclaim it as the best there is.

Sicking.
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>>253036346

HAHAHAHAHAHA
>I wrote a review for /v/

HAHAHAHAHHAH please do post it tough, would appreciate it
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>>253036638
I would but Support on PC is pretty limited, I'm waiting til better support comes along, maybe give that trackpad a mouse function
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For starters, it's nothing like the awful dualshock 3. It's big enough for human hands (it's even bigger than the xbone controller, funny enough) and it isn't made of the same cheap-as-shit feeling plastic.

The thumbsticks are also made of a much less cheap feeling material. Yes, some people have complained that they tears after relatively little wear, although Sony claims that has since been fixed, and they will replace it in either case. I haven't had it happen to me personally. They're very slightly concave, which some people dislike, but they have a nice lip around the outside for your thumb to grab, so there's sliding.

It's very wide- I have to put my thumbs at almost a 180 degree angle on the inside of the thumbsticks before they touch, which is far beyond how I would ever hold the sticks in actual use. I have slightly big hands, so my thumbs hitting each other is a problem on some smaller controllers with level sticks. Not here.

The start and share buttons- although I use my DS4 on PC, so share just functions as select- are pretty high up. Hold your mouse, and imagine you're pressing a button on the side with the inside of your thumb. Look at how far apart your thumb and forefinger are. That's about the same distance as will be between your thumb pressing start, and your finger resting on the trigger- so pretty high up, and weird at first, but not uncomfortable once you're used to it.

The face buttons and D-Pad have the same "click" as on the DS3, which is slightly creaky, easy to press by rolling your thumb as you slide from button to button without needing to lift it off the controller entirely. Just for completeness, the start/share buttons have a different, much more satisfying click to them. I have not played any games where D-Pad input accuracy is of huge importance, like fighters, but although they're a different material and shape, they're the same design and feel of the DS3 D-Pad, which I'm told fighting game fags liked.

Pic related.
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>>253036487
>>253036693
This is the set I bought in case anyone was interested. It also comes with silicone caps for the sticks.
http://www.amazon.com/Pelican-Triggers-Silicone-PlayStation-3-6304300/dp/B005D7G3LA
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>>253029997
I used to have an old programmable SNES turbo controller that was bulky as fuck, didn't really work that well, and the buttons were chewy.
But you know fucking what? It was god-tier because it was made of transparent plastic so you could see the circuit boards and shit inside.
I MISS THAT SHIT.
I had a phone like that, too, with LEDs and shit inside it that lit the whole damn thing up when it rang and whatnot.

Fucking 80s and 90s, man. They had some fun ideas. Now it's all "so black, so shiny, so sleek". I want my cheesy chunky tech back.

Fuck.
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>>253037140
>maybe give that trackpad a mouse function
Doesn't it already? I've seen people mention it.
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>>253037145
My favourite part of the controller (which is, arguably, my favourite controller of all time, though I was too poor growing up to experience any of the pre-5th gen controllers) is the new triggers. They're concave, not convex, so your finger rests perfectly in the depression. The resistance, to me, is perfect- not too much and not too little- and pressing them was legitimately pleasing when I first bought the thing. Still is, actually. I'm doing it now. Click click click. I encourage everyone in this thread to go to gamestop or whatever and try out the PS4 controller. Mmmm those triggers. Mmmmmmmm.

R1 and L1, or the bumpers if you go with the retarded name Microsoft came up with that 100% of people use now that I have hated since day one, are the exact same as the face buttons. Unlike the 360 and xbone controllers, where the bumpers are completely different (and good though prone to sticking after long wear on the 360, and absolutely awful on the xbone), on the DS4 the bumpers are just the face buttons in a different shape and location. Go grab a PS3 controller, press Triangle with the bottom of your finger. Done? That's what the bumpers are like, just taller and wider (and therefore easier to press.)

Onto the battery life. My experience is that it is EASILY over 8 hours, because that is the longest session I play on a usual basis. Though I've never timed it, those who have report 12ish hours, which sounds about right to me. Could be longer, of course, that's true no matter how long it lasts. But I have no complaints about it.

Being that I'm a mustard, and the touchscreen doesn't work on PC or on my PS3, I haven't actually used it. Seems neat, can't rate it. Best I can say is that it in no way detracts from the rest of the controller when I'm playing.

>>253037140
Works fine on PC, just download SCP. Been using it since launch with no issues.
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Right stick needs to be switched with the face buttons. If D-Pads were still relevant it would be better than the 360 controller. But they are only used well in fighting games, most are just used for switching items mid-action.
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>>253037428
And, on that note, how does it work on PC and PS3?

PC: Like a charm. Gotta run a third party program, but nothing annoying or full of Chinese malware like motioninjoy. Easy to use software, nonintrusive. I have encountered exactly one bug, and that is if I start Dark Souls 2 AFTER connecting my controller, it won't register. Gotta do start the game first.

Works over bluetooth if you got it, bluetooth dongles are cheap as fuck if you don't (we're talking $3 cheap.) Works over a regular USB - MicroUSB cable otherwise.

PS3: Limited experience here. I haven't touched my PS3 a whole lot recently, until the One Piece game came out a few days ago (it's a fucking awesome game if you're a One Piece fan, don't bother if you're not), so I don't know if it works in all games. Registers over cable or wireless, home button and touchscreen do not function.

Oh, it has a built in speaker too, I actually forgot that existed because it also doesn't work on PC. So that's... a thing? Can't judge what I haven't used.

I think that's about it, unless anyone has anything they want to ask me about the controller.

I really, really like the texture and just... overall shape in my hands. But I don't know how to put those subjective things into objective language, such that a reader could say "oh, I understand, and I can now imagine whether or not I would also like that."
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>>253037463
>D-Pads are irrelevant
I agree. I'd like to see the next generation of controllers have face buttons on both sides.
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360 controller is still better than the Wii U because it has analog triggers. I can't play REAL racing games with the Wii U gamepad or Pro, unless I map acceleration to the right stick, and fuck that.
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Anyone use this for mobile?

I was thinking of making it work with something and raspberri pi.

Imagine being able to see security cams and control them from your phone with it.
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>>253037145
>so there's sliding.
There's NO sliding, is what that ought to say.
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>>253037616
fun fact
the D-Pad can also be used as buttons instead of a directional control! so if we leave it the fuck alone, people who want it can have it, and people who don't want it can map other shit to the directions!
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>>253037428
>which is, arguably, my favourite controller of all time
stopped reading there

please stop shilling this fucking controller

it's good but you can't look me in the eyes and say it's the best
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>>253037831
Yeah, but D-Pads are uncomfortable as fuck to use as buttons, and obsolete as fuck for their intended purpose.
Just do face buttons.
Fun fact! Face buttons can also be used as d-pads!
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>>253036997
I didn't like the Gamecube as a whole.
and I hated the controller
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>>253037672
The only way I'd ever get a phone controller is if it attaches to my phone and the whole thing folds up into a compact form factor. I don't want something thicker than my phone rattling around in my pocket with the actual phone, just in case I feel like using buttons to play a shitty flash game.
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>>253036487

You're not alone. I couldn't stand using it. Maybe two hours in after I bought my PS3 and hooked it up and started playing something, I forget what it was, I ran out to Walmart or Target and bought one of those cheap Afterglow controllers. Way more comfy than that piece of shit DS3.
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>>253038016
using d-pad as buttons > using four separate buttons as a d-pad

fucking kill yourself dipshit
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>>253037616
That'd be interesting if games were made specifically for a controller like that. Control one character on each stick and actions are mapped to the opposite side of the controller.
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>>253030740
Fuck you; I think I'm hilarious.
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>>253038180
Look at this luddite chucklefuck living in the past. Adapt or die, gramps! The future has no need for d-pads!
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>>253034708
The Xbone controller is dope though
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>>253037615
how'd you get it to register on your ps3
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>>253038364
It should be in "nobody will ever have an opinion on it because nobody wants an xbone" tier
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>>253038516
Just connect it?
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>>253037848
>people can't have opinions that differ from mine
>so he must be payed for having another opinion

die in a ditch guy, just an hero already
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>>253038618
Why respond to it?

>>253038516
>Plug in DS4 controller via USB
>Go to Accessory Settings and Manage Bluetooth Devices
>Scan for Bluetooth Device
>Unplug DS4, press Share and PS Buttons
>Once device is found, plug DS4 back in and select Wireless Controller
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>>253038770
damn. ok
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>>253032364
>Buy one get one free

AS IF, NIGGA
This ad is such bullshit. Holy shit you gullible fucks, they can't just give shit away like this.

I'ma get zelda and kirby if it ain't tho
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>>253029997
>>253033804
>>253033687
>>253034008
I've heard so much contradicting info about the Pro Controller that I'm not sure what to take serious anymore.

There is one USB / BT dongle that works straight out of the box with it, but I can't remember the name right now.

People have also said that it can work via some Bluetooth registry hack and changing the Bluetooth stack in Windows. But the workaround has serious issues on Windows 8.1 64bit. Never gotten it to work properly myself. I've gotten it to appear in my list but I can't sync it.

Regular USB-mini doesn't seem to detect it at all for me, just charges it.

So if anyone has any reliable info and guidelines of how to make this work on PC, that would be a gift from the gods.
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>>253038895
Can't speak for that ad, but I used to work at Target and we had a "buy two, get one free" deal on our entire video game section. People came in, bought 3 copies of Madden for $60, drove across the street and sold one to Gamestop.
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Personally I like the dualshock 2 the most. Need to try out wii u pro controller though.
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Does /v/ like me?
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>>253039057

Maybe check this out?

http://gbatemp.net/threads/wiinupro-pro-controller-to-pc-gamepad.348537/

When you can't find a solution, usually GBA temp can help.
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>>253039456
Nobody on /v/ has actually tried you.

So no, /v/ hates you with a burning passion.
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>>253038895
>>253039130
>"buy two, get one free"
Over the last 10-15 years, the big stores have run that promotion usually for one week a year. I know Target had it just for all Wii U games a couple weeks ago. The BOGO this time is believable since it's just for those 10 games.
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>>253039057
http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Wii-Pro-Controller-Adapter/dp/B00E6553PW/ref=sr_1_1/187-0866870-5823261?ie=UTF8&qid=1405305761&sr=8-1&keywords=wiiu+pro+pc+input+dongle
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>>253035890
you keep your tower on the ground? disgusting
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>>253039130
the faggots at CAG were abusing the shit out of that a couple weeks ago. Buy 2 wii u games, get one free. they'd buy 3 copies of MK8, register all of them, get 3 free games from Nintendo, and then trade in the MK8s to Best Buy
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>>253039456
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>>253039456
Watched that giant bomb demo of it and apparently it's fucking terrible
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Anyone remove the fulcrum point thing from their DS3? Thought it made the dpad better.
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Its k. PS2, Gamecube, and Xbox360 are the top tier ones
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>>253030187
>>253030567
I have pretty sizable hands (well, my fingers are slim and long, not really bulky), and I think the Duke controller is unwieldable. Also, the button placement was pretty retarded. S controller all the way.
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The PS4 has the best controller of the gen, which I'm pretty happy about, because the PS3 controller was shit.

I will buy a PS4 eventually, but I see no games that tempt me into an xbone whatsoever, and I don't care for what's on Wii U as of yet. Maybe next year I'll nab one.

So I'm glad the one console I intend to buy in the near future also has the best controller of the lot.
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>>253032186
>Have to move your thumb instead of rolling

Seriously? Unless your thumb is very tiny, I doubt you couldn't be able to roll your thumb.
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>>253035832
>I've heard rumors the D-Pad doubles or drops input but I can't confirm.
so you never used it?
my controller is fine but the bumpers are painful to use especially for holding it for lock on in dmc4, the triggers feel to big but the rest is cash
my dpad works fine
my brothers is really fucked, he may have just broken his somehow though


my main point is that it isnt nowhere near as bad as the n64
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>>253036346
Just pastebin it
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>>253040669
I've used it, I never encountered that specific issue.
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>>253033902
Octogates limit full 360 motion. Why do people like them?
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>>253034407
cant reach the pause with your thumb? baby detected.
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>ITT:

Sony fans have nothing to talk about and are trying to justify their purchase by trying to push the DS4 as the best controller of all time, even though the DS2 and friends beat it.
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>>253030187
I fucking loved that controller when I used it at a friends house. Then I bought an Xbox myself and got the S one. Still comfy but the Duke felt right. The original Xbox controllers felt better than any controller that succeeded it to me.
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The Wii U Pro controller is $30 at Best Buy next week.
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>>253040916
Why would I need to justify the purchase of a controller that I fucking love?
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>>253040916
Fanboy detected.
If you read the thread, you'd see that some of those sonyfags you hate are actually pc gamers with a gamepad.
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>>253039840
"fucking piece of garbage" was the exact quote
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>>253034708

wiiu game pad above psx controller?
gamecube controller in anything but shit?

other than that i agree
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>>253041013
Yep, we've been talking about it. >>253032364
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>>253030745
just get a cheap one on ebay then buy a new one and replace it with the cheap one
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>>253030984
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>>253029997
Yes it is!

Ergonomic, no batteries (fuck you micro$oft), lasts up to 80 hours when fully charged.

Cheaper than the "next-gen" controllers.
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>>253041018
>loves the ds4
So, you've never used another controller outside the DS line. Shame.

>>253041070
>pc gaymers
No, their still sony babbies. Real mustards use KB+M or 360.
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>>253031539
It's great for racing games and I liked how some games on GC had different things happen with soft press vs a full click of the triggers
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>>253029997
I prefer Button and Dpad on top and the sticks on the bottom, but it's close.

I still prefer DS3 because the RL1 and RL2 buttons feel like they're equals as opposed to the Xbox's Triggers taking full focus opposed to the poor LB and RB buttons that get no love.
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>>253031205
>>253031618
>>253031981
Running and shooting at the same time in Mario Sunshine.

Variable shield strength in Melee/Brawl.
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>>253041497
>or
I prefer the DS4 over the 360, anyway.
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>>253041717
Sure you do shill.

Enjoy your gimmick in the middle. Heck, maybe you can program the share button to instantly send posts to Facebook!
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>>253038292
Underrated post.
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>>253041985
I don't care about the naming of the buttons so long as they do the same thing as the previous gen.
The touchpad is actually useful for when I don't wanna shift to click on something I need to use a mouse for.
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>>253042428
Why are you still responding to such simple bait
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>>253042428
Please stop responding to obvious bait.
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>>253042513
>>253042624
>disagreeing with shit opinions is bait
Move along

>>253042428
Oh I'm sure you think it's useful. Same could be said about the Wii U Gamepad, but you sony kiddies shit on that like no tomorrow.

Why does MS have the only controllers with no bullshit?
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>>253043031
Everyone has opinions, shill.
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>>253043115
stop

fucking

responding
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>>253029997
Why are XYBA underneath the analog stick. That seems like it would be horribly cumbersome.
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>>253037145
>The thumbsticks are also made of a much less cheap feeling material

Ahhh the good, old shitspongium
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>>253043176
All opinions are bait now it seems.

>>253043115
You don't know what shill means.
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On another note, why are third party controllers always dogshit? You know, madcats and all those guys. They always have the absolutely worst feeling and nigh-unusable buttons and I just don't understand why they're so radically different than standard first party controllers and stuff like logitech
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>>253039675
Yep, that's the one I forgot the name of. Thanks!

>>253039531
This was a clusterfuck on Windows 8.1. Does not work properly for me as I get serious issues with the Toshiba BT Stack not installing properly, after which I can't sync the controller. It just detects it but says that BT is either turned off or that it can't sync.

To save myself the headache, I think I'll just grab the adapter and get it to work right away. I've spent enough hours trying to fuck up and unfucking the mess of that Toshiba stack. But thanks anyway.
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>>253043584
Ergonomic research is costly.

I find it hilarious that logitech makes some controlers with dualshock design that are actually better than the dualshocks for this very reason
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>>253042513
>>253042624
>>253043176
>implying I'm not getting him to post to have more posts to report
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>>253043813
I'm not even talking about the design of the molding. Have you ever tried the buttons of a madcats (et al) controller? They're these unwieldy chunky things that just feel sloppy and don't respond properly
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This is a third party pro controller, works really well. A button has some issues, but for half the cost it is amazing. 8/10.
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>>253043813
>Sony screws the positioning of the joysticks from the very start
>Fans gets used to it
>Test groups won't allow its change

>Logitech puts a fucking button that swaps control of th left joystick and left D-pad

Fucking hilarious if you ask me
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If the pro controller had the stick setup of the 360, the d-pad of the Vita, the micro-usb charge port of the PS4, and the wireless-to-wire capabilities of the xbone controller, that thing blow away every conceivable controller known to man. For what it's worth, it's a great controller anyway.
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>>253029997
No. The fact that people are going to be forced to buy a gamecube controller adapter to be any good at Smash shows why.

But to skip you from having to do the thinking about it, it's because the right stick is above the buttons. Which is stupid.
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>>253044067
>opinions are reportable
>announcing reports
Please stop.

>>253044373
God that D-Pad looks ass.

Looks kinda comfy though.
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>>253044489
>No. The fact that people are going to be forced to buy a gamecube controller adapter to be any good at Smash shows why.
>But to skip you from having to do the thinking about it, it's because the right stick is above the buttons. Which is stupid.

That's some pretty nice bait anon, congratulations
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>>253044373
>A to the left of B

>Y to the left of X

who the fuck did that? fuck you
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>>253030187

The black and white buttons were stupid.
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The Gamecube controller is the most overrated. The subpar d-pad isn't the only problem the GC controller had.

The non-standard button layout was only really effective for games designed around it (shit like Melee, MKDD, and Wind Waker). Try playing the GC version of CvS2. It's fucking impossible.

Also, the lack of two rows of shoulders hurts it. A ZL/ZR system would've been nice. A lot of multiplats were gimped and required the use of Z+L/R to replicate what L2/R2 would've done.

The octagonal gate around the sticks limits true full 360 movement to a degree, but it's not that bad.

Really, the only thing perfect about the controller is the ergonomics. Beyond that, it gets way too much undeserved credit.
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>>253044581
Jesus, man, we have opinions. Quit barraging everyone with yours.
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>>253044489
I don't really understand why that is necessary. Obviously using your GC controller made sense for brawl because wiimote was retarded and wiimote+nunchuck was usable, but would just take too much getting used to. But the pro controller is just a standard controller - I don't see why it's unusable for smash bros. Don't people that play melee/pm on emulators just use their typical PC gamepads or plug in 360/PS3 controllers? It's not like there's something so absolutely special about the GC controller that nothing else can be used for smash.
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>>253044747
Where are you from, the middle east? Oh shit now I (now what youre saying. That is fucking awful
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>>253045059
wouldnt playing 3D world be literally impossible with it? since B is jump and Y is run
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>>253044661
It's true. Why the hell do you think the gamecube adapter thing suddenly became a thing now that the new smash is coming out? Because the game would suck to play if you have to use the dumb Wii U controller.

Just like any game where you control the camera with the right stick, you can't press the buttons and use the right stick to look with the stick above the buttons. It's too awkward.

What a blunder on Nintendos part, no wonder no one is buying the Wii U.
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>>253044776
Honestly, I actually miss the octogonal gate. I kinda wish it was an attachment or something to modern controllers.

I sometimes find it difficult to go straight forward using an analog stick. Usually I'm going ever so slightly to the left or right. It only really affects me in sanic games, but options don't hurt,
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Best Controller: Dualshock 4.
Runner Up: Wii Classic Pro.

Worst First-Party Controller: Wiimote.
Runner Up: Dreamcast.

Most Over-Rated First Party Controller: Gamecube.
Runner-Up: Sega Saturn.
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>>253044953
The only thing I can think of is the shoulders are analog on the GC controller and maybe people like to use varying shield bubble strengths. Not him, and I'm not a tryhard so I dont know.
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>>253043584
I bought a third party Xbox Hueg S controller from Amazon.

Best third party controller I ever used. It's literally a clone of the real thing, except a wee bit smaller. The difference is barely noticable.

Second best third party controller is pic related
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>>253031710
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>>253045216
The reason everyone uses the gamecube controller for smash is the goddamn face button layout. It worked super goddamn well for melee.

Having y and x the shape they are makes it super easy to short-hop. You don't even need to be a tourneyfag for that to be useful.
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>>253045382
>Best Controller: Dualshock 4
>if I keep saying it it'll be true
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>>253045410
No, that wouldn't be it - there weren't varying shield strengths in brawl and I'm pretty certain it didn't really matter in melee and some players even modded their controllers by taking the springs out of the triggers.
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>>253045382
The worst controller spot is a three-way tie between the Wii remote, DC controller, and N64 controller. I feel like they developed the N64 controller exclusively for Mario 64 and every other game had to deal with it.
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>>253045641
And part of the face layout includes...oh that's right, the buttons being above the right stick.
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Best Controller: 360
Runner Up: Gamecube

Worst First-Party Controller: Wiimote.
Runner Up: N64

Most Over-Rated First Party Controller: Dualshock 4
Runner-Up: Wii U Pro
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>>253045382
>Wii Classic Pro
>not Wii U Pro
No one cares about the Wii Classic Pro. It hadn't even been mentioned ITT until you listed it.
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>>253046152
I don't see how that makes it not good.

It was better than the Wii U Pro is.
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>>253045216
>It's true. Why the hell do you think the gamecube adapter thing suddenly became a thing now that the new smash is coming out? Because the game would suck to play if you have to use the dumb Wii U controller.

No, it's because the competitive smash community fucking loves the gamecube controller

You are either baiting or retarded and in either case you should stop posting really
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>>253045212
I cant even begin to explain that. It's like theyre terrified of patent infringement or something.
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>>253045216
>Why the hell do you think the gamecube adapter thing suddenly became a thing now that the new smash is coming out?

because "muh input latency"
these are the same guys that play RPS for port priorty
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>>253046125
That is wrong in literally every regard except the N64 being the second worst and PS4 being the most over-rated

Best is Gamecube
Runner up is Wii U

Worst is DS2
Runner up is N64

Most Over-rated is DS4
Runner up is DS3
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Xbone=Wii-U Pro>DS4
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>>253046464
>DS3
>overrated

Nobody liked the DS3.
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>>253046464
>ds2

I'm a nintenbro and I can say I likes the DS2 the best of the DS line

N64 was 100% worse.
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>>253045419
Agreed about the Superpad 64. Does away with the retarded trident of the original N64 controller, and makes it a sane shape. Both the D-pad and analog stick are accessible now.
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>>253046464
Is this the nintendogaf I've heard so much about?
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>>253046464
The anti-Sony bias is strong. No one overrates the DS3.
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>>253033013
you could do what I'm doing.
I only want Tomodachi Life and I'm getting a popular game like Pokemon X or Y for my free game and trading it on a ninendo trading board for a 3DS game I actually want.
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>>253034708
>NES pad in mid tier

yes. a rectangle with some buttons.

"i love being uncomfortable and eating garbage" -you
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>>253047301
There's an elegance in simplicity.
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>>253034708
Replace the Duke controller for the S controller, and put the Duke in low. I honestly don't see how people can hold that thing, even with huge hands.
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>>253047301
says the guy who loves a controller with a fucking touchpad on it
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>>253047472
It's not that it's simple, it's that it's completely unergonomic.
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>>253040206
The what?
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>>253040206
No, cause it's there for a reason. It hoist the actual d-pad up and allows you to make fluid motions with it, while allowing it to return to a neutral position.

>>253047772
If you open up the controller, there's a little pivot point thing that's under the actual d-pad.
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>>253048063
Wouldn't that cause the d-pad to sink though?
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>>253036358
>being this ageist
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>>253048190
That's what I'm saying. I leave it in, cause otherwise, the d-pad would sink in.
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>>253048063
Unless you've worn it out, the rubber dome is what keeps the d-pad piece up.
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On the topic of good controllers, this shit's the best

>that color scheme
>that microsoft, not xbox360, branding
>that brushed-metal guide button
>good weight, good balance, great triggers, solid construction
>gold-standard for PC game joypads since Xinput went mainstream, plug and play

There's no excuse, /v/. Platformers are for shitbabies.
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I have a Wii U Pro, but haven't gotten the chance to use it much. Feels alright in my hands though.

Haven't gotten to try a DS4 or Xbone pad yet.
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>>253049035
Non-rechargable batteries with mediocre lifespan.
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>>253049035
>that brushed-metal guide button
It's colored plastic
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The Wii U Pro controller is pretty nice. Only issue is the lack of analog triggers. But it is still a fantastic controller overall.

I also like the DS4, but it has some issues, like the shit battery life and the rubber on the sticks. I just replaced the sticks on mine with Xbone sticks and it was well worth it.
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>>253049896
Not on the old white pads it isn't.
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>>253049035
>wireless
I threw up a little.
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>>253029997
No analog triggers to play Super Mario Sunshine and the four or five boring racing sims that aren't even available on the console. Otherwise, yes. The swift responsiveness that digital triggers provides coupled with a proper dpad that only Nintendo can make (since the cross design is their patent) and the symmetrical analogs in a comfy location that actually makes sense and never causes your thumbs to touch. The 80 your battery life. It's like Nintendo took the prior king, the 360 controller, and perfected it while MS made it worse with the Xbone controller. Sony's garbage controllers don't count since they're still fundamentally flawed by sticking with the basic 1994 design. I know "if it ain't broke" but shits but broke for over a decade and the new curves done improve it.

GameCube controller and this are the best controllers for modern 3D games. SNES controller still the best for 2D games but the classic controller pro is fairly close. Nintendo makes the best controller period.
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>>253034407
>can't reach the start button
manlets please
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>>253033687
The only problems the Wii U Pro Controller has with Xinput (at least when using the Mayflash receiver) is that the ABXY layout is mixed up (A is still A, X is still X etc., but obviously the Xbox360 controller uses a different layout to the Wii U controller, so you may need to reconfigure the controls in each game to correct that if it's a big deal) and that the receiver itself only supports one controller while in Xinput mode.

Given that 95% of games will let you reconfigure controls anyway, it's not a big deal, and still better than any other workaround since this method even gives you rumble support.
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>>253029997
No but it's the second best since Xbone controller is able to conecting with PC
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>>253051427
So is the WiiU. You just need a bluetooth adapter somewhere.
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>>253052082
What??
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>>253035890
Enjoy your floor dust you pleb.
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>>253052504
There are already drivers for it dude. I don't have the link anymore, but I'm sure a google search would find it.
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>>253036487

I'm the opposite boat. DS3 is my favorite controller, right above DS2 (any non-analog stick controllers are kinda a whole different tier list to me as much as I like them).

The tilt control is horribly under-appreciated, and a real killer feature for the thing above any other dual stick controller. Anyone that's played flower (the main thing that got tilt right) knows what I'm talking about, but everyone shits on the feature because Lair did it badly.

Anyone hitting their fingers together using the thing is just holding it wrong, and held properly I got WAY more fine control from a DS3 stick than I ever got from a 360 stick, to the point where I'd usually turn sensitivity to max and rarely have to move the stick the full way, thanks to a tiny deadzone.

Triggers I never had a problem with, though I could see people having the other opinion.
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>>253030137
>not GameCube master race
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>>253029997

Add two more face buttons and some analogue triggers.
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>>253053652
Does it seriously not have analog triggers? Even the Wii Classic Controller and Gamecube controller had those.
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>>253054058
Yup. Classic Controller Pro also didn't have analog triggers.
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>>253054058
It doesn't have them as Nintendo asked a heap of devs whether they even really need analog triggers and they said no.

Considering that the only genre that really needs analog triggers is Racing (and even then not all racing games needs them, kart racers are better off with digital), I don't really see the big deal. I've always preferred digital triggers myself.
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>>253054058
Nintendo are trying to appeal to a wider audience, and apparently wider audiences don't like analogue triggers. Shame, because the controller is great otherwise. It fucks up the prospect of ever getting games like Super Mario Sunshine on the Virtual Console.
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>>253054981
Great news: you have two digital triggers right above the analog ones. This is literally a "one versus both" situation. Also, plenty of shooters and platformers can use analog triggers in creative ways. F.L.U.D.D in Mario Sunshine is a great example.
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>>253055531
They aren't triggers, they're just shoulder buttons. And they're usually reserved for melee, throwing grenades, shit like that (depending on the game).

And it's one thing to say 'oh but all these games can use them in interesting ways', but how many ever actually do? Mario Sunshine might be a good example, but it's also one of the only ones I ever see bought up.
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>>253053398

Oh, forgot the main reason to still go DS3 over DS4 for PC play at least: full Analog buttons. Stupid feature to take on on DS4 and fucks you over if you try to emulate PS2 games compared to the DS3 driver mode that gives you full analog input for PS2 emulators.
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>>253056484
Man that's one thing I hated about PS2 games. I remember playing NFS Underground or something when I was younger on my friend's PS2 and wondering why it felt like the AI kept flying past me half of the time until I discovered years later that the PS2 has analog face buttons of all things (I'm guessing they can get worn out, as I would press as hard as I could and it still didn't seem to register fully).

I actually want to see controllers using mechanical buttons much like the mechanical keyboards you can buy these days. I used to own a Razer Xbox360 controller that had mechanical face buttons, and up until the analog sticks started acting up it felt great.
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>>253034708
May i try?
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>>253057190

I'm all for good hardware, but I'm also of the opinion that more features the better, and for that Sony has always had the better controllers since DS1. Dual sticks, then analog buttons, then tilt (they stole triggers but w/e), then the touch pad and standard audio jack.

Doesn't mean you have to use all of them in every game, and shoehorning them in stupidly is equally retarded, but the simple fact that if a dev wants a feature it's there to use is good controller design to me.

If you're gonna charge $40+ for a controller, you better feature match or beat your opponents. For this esp the Wii U pro is kinda bad (full price point mostly), 360 was pretty ass (no built in battery) and GC was middling (only the one z button, right "stick" wasn't really).
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>>253057594
>Saturn
>mid

>Duke
>not S

Step up senpai
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>>253058129
Features for the sake of features is never a good idea if you ask me.
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>>253057594
Why even bother with the Wii U gamepad?
>can't buy separately
>no PC support any time soon
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>>253057594
>Any PS controller
>Above Mid Tier
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>>253058306

Everything and the kitchen sink I can agree with. But adding what seems like a useful feature, even if you don't know exactly how it might be used or even if it will be used by a lot of games, allows for some really great game design by the teams that bother.

More advanced rumble features in a PS controller were generally just used in a standard way, but the MGS team put in the extra effort to make it do exactly what they wanted it to do. 99% of games ignored the tilt in the DS3, but Flower got the tuning just right and no use of analog sticks would have felt the same.

Little things like that across the span of a console generation feel like worthwhile payoffs if it doesn't really make the controller any more expensive than its counterparts.
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>>253058934

See this picture? This is the wrong fucking way to hold a PS contoller when you're using the sticks. You pull your last thumb joint off the controller, place the tip of your thumb on the stick (right under your thumbnail, that part), and suddenly you have way better control with the "shitty" dualshock sticks than you ever get with standard grips on any other stick.

This shit is Katamari 101 and solves pretty much every problem people have with the controllers.
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>>253059036
The other features you may have a point with, but analog buttons seem to be more of a hindrance than anything else.

As I said earlier, I'd prefer digital buttons just because when you press it you know you're getting the full effect no matter what. Mechanical switches would be even better.
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>>253045558
what doesnt it do?
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>>253030187
What's good about this? It's heavy as fuck, the white and black buttons are less ergonomic than bumpers, start and select are a far stretch. Just take off your nostalgia masks and smell how much this controller reeks of shit.
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>>253054981
Yeah, who needs realistic racing games or a new F-Zero? Let's just play kart racers forever. They're practically the same thing, right?
>>253056373
>And it's one thing to say 'oh but all these games can use them in interesting ways', but how many ever actually do?
For the Wii U? None, because they can't.
For the Gamecube? Several, including Metroid Prime, Super Mario Sunshine and Luigi's Mansion.
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>>253056373
Doesn't matter. You should still have some manner of reading pressures sensitive input on the controller other than the analog sticks.

Does the Game Pad at least have them if the pro controller doesn't?
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>>253062016
Except F-Zero just used A to accelerate, so that point is moot.
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How mad will you guys be if this is valve's best idea on what a controller should be?
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>>253030137
>not Xbone controller
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>>253062915
They're the only ones actually trying something new this gen when it comes to controllers, non of the big 3 have innovated aside form sticking touchscreens in the middle, which is probably for the better

If it doesn't work it will suck and we can move on, if it does then great, fixed the controller for pc games issue like they intended to

I can't say anything on the trackpads, it'll just be a thing I'll have to try out, but I can already say that "d-pad" has got to go, give me a real cross or something like it

I'm cautiously optimistic, but mostly I'm just really really curious, I gotta hold that shit so i can finally know how shit it is/isn't
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The rumble could be better
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>>253030187
I love the shit of this controller Gun,True Crime, Burnout 3/Revenge, Ninja Gaiden Black and DOA feel right with the Original Xbox Controller. majority do it justice. then again I'm a manlet with man hands.
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>>253065650
i can tell by looking at it it isn't going to be comfy. if they change the shell and the d-pad like you said it might be okay, expecially if it's less expensive than say a 50buck xbone controller. but i really doubt i'd want to slide my fingers over touch circles for very long.
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>>253045558
the description if you lose is very funny to me "If you win you get to see the ending sequence, but if you lose, you dont.
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