>>252260965 as someone who plays videogames during the whole game for a couple of years i can say this is actually true. but it's not as adictive as drugs since you can quickly let it go if you find something more interessting to do. but if you don't you'll be pretty much hooked.
>>252263295 >Got a favorite hobby? like reading books? watching cinema? Like to play sports? like to go surfing? like to listen to music? most of those are passive activities - the others, physical ones are strenuous so you won't be able to do it for long until your body gets tired. videogames on the other hand can be played for days without getting you physically tired while getting you interested since it's interactive
by being this fallacious you're being worse than the people that wrote that article and fox news.
>>252263818 I don't hate it, but I don't like it. I don't go around preaching how X is better, but I tried LoL back in 2011 or something like that since I had gotten a free $50 card I forgot why. Needless to say I uninstalled shortly after, it was unpolished, not fun, I disliked the art style, and it wasn't enjoyable. Meanwhile Dota2 beta invite came later that year and I was more interested in playing that, but I stopped since it was the early stages of the game. Now? Dota2 has insane amount of polish, feedback, and is somewhat enjoyable alone and pretty fun with friends that aren't tryhards. League? It's filled with tryhards left and right. I tried to play League again awhile back due to someone wanting me to play with him, but it's just still just as bad. It's a major clusterfuck of feedback now and trying to be dota2 with it's features. It's like it has no real direction in anything while following 100% what the users want regardless how retarded the idea is. I'm sure I'm wrong, but that's my ignorant view of the game. I tried putting like 10 hours into the game initially and another 10, but it's just not fun. Meanwhile dota took about 350 or so hours of my life.
Do people actually fall for this shit? I'm serious, how can anyone actually lack the critical thinking to assess those statements for the bullshit they are? I mean in general too,, I just see so much bullshit everywhere and wonder what kind of person falls for it. It's like when they advertise a packet of sugar as non fat, it's just insane that anyone could fall for it.
>>252266090 that happens because they stop pretty much eating and drinking properly so their body starts to shut down - so it has nothing to do with videogames. last week a couple of gooks also died by watching the world cup for several days with no rest.
everything is working fine, just like darwin said it would...
>>252268535 Yes. The problem is that I don't think I'm capable of calming down. I could go full Buddhist monk style but what kind of life is that even? It's basically religious mental illness where you completely change your entire value system around to something that makes no biological sense, it's horrendous yet effective.
Lemme warn ya, change isn't easy, you need to align what you want with what you want to want. I'm not sure any other task is more difficult in life, we are so rife with lies, and we love taking it easy.
>>252268357 The problem with quitting video games is you don't need to. I've never had a substance addiction but from testimonials and shit I get the impression that most people eventually realize they had a problem even if they didn't do anything about it.
If someone ordered me to give up video games, my response would be "why the fuck would I do that." Playing my favorite games for 2-3 hours every day is something I can honestly say improves my life.
>>252269468 i'm a smoker and it'd be harder to give up wikipedia, video games, 4chan, and reddit than it'd be to quit smoking
homie, quitting 4chan and video games doesn't mean you have to become an ascetic and meditate 24 hours a day (although i really think you should meditate and practice mindfulness like at least 10 minutes a day)
>>252270396 2 to 3 hours every day isn't too much, but consider how much time you take reading /v/, installing new hardware, watching e-sports, downloading mods, and all of the other things involved in being a HARDCORE gamer
it takes up a lot of time and to think about gaming during the day "ugh fuck this seminar i can't fucking pay attention i just want to go home and play a few hours of battlefield" is a terrible thing when you consider what else you could do with that time
read a book, or better yet, write a book being productive and giving something to the world feels great dude, even small things
you probably dont have a problem if you play only 2 hours a day, i realized at the end that i kind of was writing this for me
>>252270693 I only play games for as long as I enjoy playing them though, and when I feel happy about something I did in a game it comes from a sense of personal satisfacton. I feel like my personal gaming habits have improved since I stopped playing MMOs and F2P games. Those are only Skinner Boxes desinged to steal your hard earned Jewgolds.
>>252271138 I don't have the cash to buy new hardware right now, and I rarely feel the need to use mods. Esports are cancer. The only problem we really share is too much /v/ time.
I never really bought this "be productive" line. I totally agree that it's important to create, but you can't do that until you have something to work with. I usually don't feel creative until I play or read a lot and process bits of what I did. The most creative thing I usually do is write down mechanics and plot elements for games I'm not ready to make yet.
>>252272605 >The most creative thing I usually do is write down mechanics and plot elements for games I'm not ready to make yet. haha i know what you mean i have dozens of text files with ideas for changes to mechanics of shooters and pokemon games
>I usually don't feel creative until I play or read a lot and process bits of what I did. try drugs!
>I never really bought this "be productive" line. i can't say whether or not a "productive" lifestyle is objectively superior, but it makes you feel better physically and mentally and makes it easier to complete tasks which are generally in line with what our society deems as important
many people in real life call me a defeatist however and i agree, i feel as if i have little control over my life so i will leave my fate to 4chan >1-3 do some calc homework >4-6 practice ruby >7-9 read fear and loathing and go to bed early >0 play kh2
>>252270723 What do you think stimulus is? Creates elevated mood. Nigga I listen to music nearly 24/7 if allowed to, I eat whenever I'm able, my entire life revolves around exciting my brain cells. If I get bored, I get more than bored, I get angry. And I mean fuckin angry, like wanting to bite shit angry, not normal angry, but it should be noted that I don't get normal bored either; I am a being of extremes. The only other option for me is asceticism, I don't do moderation well.
>>252273867 >Try drugs I thought we were trying to avoid that.
>Dozens of text files My design docs have some small code and art but yeah. I need to do smaller simpler games to practice advanced game elements. My current short term goal is a shitty looting sim so I can make more memory-efficient inventory systems My extreme long-term goal is an ARPG with gameplay that improves or fixes ideas from Rogue Galaxy and a plot that's kind of a mish-mash of Inuyasha and Ringworld with some Resident Evil and themes related to moral foundation theory.
>>252275252 >My extreme long-term goal is an ARPG with gameplay that improves or fixes ideas from Rogue Galaxy and a plot that's kind of a mish-mash of Inuyasha and Ringworld with some Resident Evil and themes related to moral foundation theory. i have no idea what kind of a game any of that would translate to
i myself find it easier to fix and solve problems rather than make them
i'm studying computer engineering with the intent to use the programming and design skills i learn in school to do some modding on the side and maybe it'd be cool to get into the terrible industry that is video games later on in life when i don't have to worry about money
i guess i don't appreciate games as much as i used to
This is really funny to me. We live in a world that has been systematically designed so that your success in life is almost entirely dependent on what family you were born into and who that family is friends with, with the only sliver of hope you have of changing that is getting completely lucky with the exact same idea that hundreds of thousands of other people have (Shay Carl, for example)
And then the people paid to keep that system unchanged start whinging and complaining that people dare to ever enjoy competing against others or against designed challenges on a level playing field, and dare to enjoy that more than the per-determined lose-by-default standard of real life challenges.
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