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>No newcomer you want will EVER make it into Kerfuffle How

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>No newcomer you want will EVER make it into Kerfuffle
How are you coping, /v/?
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>no Advance Wars rep
>no custom robo rep
>no Ridley
>no Bayonetta

Just kill me now
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well, shes assist so it could be worse.
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>>251493440
but I wanted Little Mac, Rosalina, and Palutena, and still want Shulk

Plus Toon Link's back for me so even if they all suck I still have my main
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>Palutena
>Little Mac
>Megaman

Sucks to be you nigga.
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>>251493593
>no custom robo rep
>No Sin & Punishment rep
Why even go on living?
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>>251493440
>How are you coping

i sold my wii u.
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I wanted
>Rosalina
>Mega Man
>Little Mac
>Chorus Kid
So I'm pretty satisfied.
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But Palutena DID make it into Kerfuffle
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>>251493794
I did want Mega Man until I played as him. He's incredibly awkward to use.

>>251493757
>mfw my main from Brawl isn't coming back either
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But I wanted Palutena and Little Mac.
No Advance Wars character is a bummer, though, but I already learnt how to live without it.
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But that's wrong, faggot.
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>No Travis Touchdown in conjunction with an announcement for NMH3 for Wii U
He could be comedically censored too...
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>Megaman
>Sonic
>Mario
>Pacman
>All in the same game

Sorry, but if you're complaining about the roster at this point, you're an entitled little shit.
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>tfw my most wanted newcomer is the second most likely newcomer next to Chrom
Feels good
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I wanted Villager and Little Mac.

I'll be pissed if Snake isn't in though.
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>>251494127
Suda51 is never making a game on a Nintendo console again (Thank God).
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>Everyone else but me is satisfied
The new characters I wanted not making it in and my main not returning I probably wouldn't be upset over if the rest of the roster was decent. There are only two and a half characters that look at least alright to me.

I mean Miis? Rosalina? WFT? Really
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>>251493440
I cope by thinking up move-sets for that character and eventually stopping to give a damn.
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>>251494283
>two garbage third parties over well deserved pure nintendo characters
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>>251493440
>my most wanted newcomer has been a Rhythm Heaven rep since Fever's release
Coping quite well actually.
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Speak for yourself.
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I wanted Little Mac so that's all fine and good but

>>251493593
>>251493817

I feel for you, Custom Robros.

Because Ray would be fun as fuck. I always liked projectile-heavy characters.

I also wanted Takamaru but that's the dumbest hope I had.
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>Newcomers

I don't really need that shit. I got Olimar, my main nigga. He's all I need.
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>>251494283
I'm not going to even pretend. I know I'm extremely entitled, but it still hurts.

I've contemplated just not getting the games it's so depressing, but I know I'm going to get both and wind up hating them because almost no one in the roster is appealing to me.
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The only newcomers I wanted were Mac and Mega Man. I'm doin' just fine.

I'll be annoyed if Ganondorf is still a clone, though.
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>tfw main young link
Goddammit.
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>>251493440
But all the good characters already made it, especially all my favorites.
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>>251494592
>Seriously trying to shit on video game icons.
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>>251494413
Use spoilers instead of brackets summerfag
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I've been coping with No Ridley for three games now. I think I can handle a fourth...
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>>251494898
Please don't abuse the spoiler function
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>>251493440
But I got Little Mac
Him and Chibi Robo are the only two characters I actively wanted so I'm happy enough.
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>>251494447
Miis were almost a certainty at this point.
Rosalina was kinda a odd choice.
She seems to have become Nintendo's Lightning
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>No Hawlucha
Greninja is a faggot, who has no style
Hawlucha is way better, and would be perfect
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tfw no wonder red
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>>251494832
How can nobody in the roster be appealing to you? Were you not born in the 70's?
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>People keep saying Shulk
>Been on /co/ so long that Shulk=She Hulk
>Get confused as fuck every time someone mentions him
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>>251494883
Not him, but Pac Man's pretty much only in because Namco's helping development. It's true he's iconic, but he's not relevant, and has little to do with Nintendo. Few people even wanted him until it was confirmed Namco was involved and even then that was half because they expected him.

>>251494942
He's just too big for SSB for Wii U
Ain't nothing you can do
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>>251493440
Except Palutena made it in.
Your move.
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>>251494821
Some of the changes are weird though. Like, his upsmash is the same but it has a ton more endlag, and his grab has less range but is faster. Also he has a new jab that doesn't reach behind him.
The 3 Pikmin thing only means you have to be more conservative with them though, not really a big issue.
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>>251495170
>born in the 70s
>being 40 years old on 4chan
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Who do you guys think will be the retro revival character? Melee was Ice Climbers, Brawl was Pit. Little Mac might count but he's had a Wii game before joining Smash so I don't know if he counts.
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>>251494335
that's cropped isn't it?
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>>251495287
I can hope, anon.

I can always hope.
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>>251495392
Mach Rider.
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I already have Ike, so i don't give a fuck.

They might as well announce Ridley, K. Rool, or bayonetta as playables and I will pick just Ike, and maybe Luigi.

Well, bayo might be fun because that would imply a bayo amiibo
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>>251495392
Mega Man.
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>>251495421
Of course
It's drawn by a drawfag who, sadly, mainly draws humongous feet and scat
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>>251494865
He's still in the game. Stop being an OoT fanboy
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>>251493440
I got Little Mac, Mega Man, Palutena, and probably Shulk.

I think Rosalina and Greninja are cool choices to show what's new in their franchises modern era.

I think Wii Fit Trainer is both hilarious and a significant point of Nintendo history.

I think Villager is a neat addition and I love his move set

I was worried Pac-Man would be I'M A MEME but he wasn't, so it's all good.

Miis ended up being a lot better than I expected and actually seem fun to play.

I have no issue with Chrom or Chorus Men. In fact, I'm starting to find Robinfags pretty annoying.

I have completely avoided all butthurt. My anus is pure as the Virgin Mary.
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>new fire emblem character will be MU
>you can change their gender and appearance like in Awakening
>final smash is Morgan pairing up with you
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>>251495392
Pac Man.
They're secretly using Pac's moveset to stealth promote the gritty Dig Dug reboot.
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>no Zero
>no Geno

It's like Sakurai hates me.
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>>251493440
Greninja was the only newcomer I wanted, and he's in. Feels great.
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Feels pretty horrible.

but at least I still have Olimar, G&M and probably ROB. Little Mac is pretty awesome though, but I don't think I'll play him.
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>>251495287
Irrelevant, he's an icon in video game history and is more deserving of a spot than literally any other person you could possibly name, regardless of developer motivations and character popularity.

Also, you're a faggot for only wanting Nintendo characters.
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>>251495735
>geno

you're fucking pathetic
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>>251495735
>Zero

The final boss from Kirby? 2big
If you meant from Mega Man you're an absolute retard.
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>>251495601
Toon link does not play like young link.
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>>251495170
>How can nobody in the roster be appealing to you?
Well Kirby's been buffed, but I haven't really mained him for long and while it's one of my favorite franchises and the reason I got into SSB in the first place he's not my favorite to use in SSB. Lucas, my main, is gone, and I can't go back to Ness unless he's SSB64 levels of anus destroyer after tasting how much better Lucas was. No one from any of the niche Nintendo franchises I liked got in. I love Mega Man, and was initially generally excited for his inclusion but after playing as him I lost all interest. He's incredibly awkward and some of his moves are very impractical, like the Leaf Shield, and even the Metal Blades don't do much damage.

>>251495916
>Also, you're a faggot for only wanting Nintendo characters.
Where did I say that?
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>>251495735
>Geno
>Zero
I hate you too.
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There will be more newcomers than just the ones in the Gematsu leak r-right?
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>>251495287
>and has little to do with Nintendo.

Somebody hasn't been playing Mario Kart in the arcades. Namco is super buddy buddy with Nintendo these days.
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>No Ouendan squad with EBA alternate costumes
>No Cheerleader squad clone, faster and with more combo potential but weaker and lighter
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>>251496060
>and has little to do with Nintendo.

Thats where you said it.
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>>251496056
Mario's been changed even more since his introduction, but nobody denies that Mario is still in the game.

It's like saying Link isn't in the game because they're using the TP design now.
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>>251496106
Wasn't Rosalina never mentioned in the leak?

But the answer is no, anon. All our dreams are dead.
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I wanted Little Mac, Tingle and Belmont. Belmont was always extremely improbable, but I got Little Mac so I don't mind the lack of a playable Tingle.

If he's not playable in HW then I'll be butthurt.
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>>251495652
Same here, Hell Chrom is my most wanted newcomer and I await the day when he is confirmed to see his trailer.
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>>251495712
>Wanting ANOTHER self insert character to get in
I think in terms of moveset he'd be better than yet another blue haired swordsman, but really?

>>251496187
That was A reason, but that doesn't mean that I don't want strictly Nintendo characters.
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But he will be in
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>>251493440

Megaman was something I never knew I wanted. Also, I really don't get worked up about which characters are in a game, simply that the game is enjoyable. Well, that and I mainly play as Link.
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>>251493440
by not being a fucking baby and enjoying the characters already confirmed
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>>251496060
niche franchises such as...? Who would need to be in it for you to be satisfied, anon?
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>>251496250
I know but I don't play as mario. I'd be pissed with his changes too if I did though.
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>>251496106
there's probably hidden characters that are new comers that won't be revealed
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>>251495712

Final Smash should be Grima related.
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>>251496060
>Kirby's been buffed
Kirby was one of the best characters in Brawl, if he's even remotely the same he'll be great.

>Lucas
Ness was better in every regard except for a shitty neutral special. Lucasfags usually don't know how to kill with anything besides Smash attacks that's why they prefer the faster bat and psy smashes over the yoyo.

>No one from any of the niche Nintendo franchises I liked got in.
Stop being a hipster.
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>>251496518
I did before they ruined him in Brawl, but Toon Link's the best any Link has ever been as evidenced by the tier lists
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But i'll be getting Shulk
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>>251493440
>Isaac
Videogames
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>>251496114
>Namco is super buddy buddy with Nintendo these days.
There's like one SRW on the 3DS, no Dark Souls II Wii U, no more Tales games on Nintendo platforms, almost only the arcade stuff and licensed games really, outside of SSB.

>>251496474
Not going to say it because I don't want to make other fans of those characters look bad because I'm being a whiny faggot, admittedly.
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>>251495652
>>251496352
I just don't get it, what is appealing about this character? What does he have to bring to the game that the others don't?
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>>251496392
64 and Brawl must be rough for you.
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>>251495712
>not Grima final smash where you slap everyone's shit as a too big dragon(rideyfgas BTFO bonus)
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Fucking Karnov
Fuck you Nintendo, I've been asking for him since Melee. It's not hard you fucking cunts, just contact Data East and get him there. He's an important part of Nintendo.
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>tfw your main hasn't been revealed yet

Where is he guys? what if they decided to remove him?
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>>251493440
>Pac-Man
>Villager
>Marshal
>Little Mac
>Mega Man

No idea what you're talking about.
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>>251496642
Samus sucks? Jesus I always thought he was OP
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>>251496642
You know, I think the choice to not ban Meta-Knight was a mistake.
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>>251496735

Not really, I'm moderately good, just don't really much care for competitive play (IE: All items and flat stages only). In fact, I've never been bested by anyone in the 64 version consistently. Though admittedly, I've only played at one local tournament.
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>>251496935
>he
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>>251494898
>misusing spoilers
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>>251493440
Pacman's like THE one characters I've wanted since the invention on guest charactes, so I'm good.
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>>251494592
>implying Sakurai will make good choices with pure Nintendo characters.

Saying never ever to third parties would lead to Baby Mario.
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>>251496861
Thinking Wario is gone is just as dumb as thinking Falcon or Ness are gone.
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>>251496716
>I just don't get it, what is appealing about this character?
People who liked Awakening want him in.

>>251496861
Anon please, he even has his logo. Sakurai's not going to get rid of Wario, he has his own unique moveset, is a major Nintendo character in the Mario Kart and sports games and he even has TWO entire series devoted to him. Don't be silly.

You only really need to worry about your main not coming back if you're a Lucasfag, Snakefag, or maybe Wolffag.
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>little mac
>villager
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>>251496642

>Ganondorf still rocking the bottom

Makes my wins even more satisfying
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>>251496716
A swordsman that doesn't have to be one side of two extremes. He may even bring different weapons.
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>>251493440

Honestly, I just wanted Knuckles.

What's the point of revealing all characters, even hidden ones?
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>>251497187
Holy shit, kill yourself
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>>251497013
Fuck
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I don't even want a fucking newcomer. Or a different slot.

GIVE ME MY FUCKING DR. MARIO BACK ASSHOLES
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>he'll never be in
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>>251496642
>tier list
>evidence
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I'm still waiting.
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>>251497272
Considering the costumes we've seen so far I don't think a Dr. Mario costume is all that unlikely.
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>>251493440
Not worrying about characters that could be in. Just because a character that you want gets in doesn't mean that they'll suit your playstyle
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>>251496716
Exalted Falchion
Middleweight Swordsman
Different Swordstyle compared to the 2 FE lords

Personally, He is also my favorite FE Lord as well with Ike and Seliph tied for 2nd. I have faith in Sakurai to give him a great and fun Moveset in Sm4sh.
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>>251497131
My friend is dating that guys daughter.

/v/-blogging
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>tfw they refuse to take out Toon Link
>tfw they Mewtwo is never coming back
>tfw I have no idea what greninja is
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>>251497079
>>implying Sakurai will make good choices with pure Nintendo characters.
See when Brawl came out and I saw everyone in it, I saw that almost every franchise was pretty well represented and thought that for Kerfuffle, he would have no choice but to branch out to the amazing, niche franchises Nintendo had because there was no where else to go.

I was wrong.

I was so, horribly, horribly, horribly wrong.
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>>251497284
>implying tiers don't exist
>implying the game hasn't been figured out by now
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>>251497401
Seriously. I don't get this shit. I use the characters that have movesets/playstyles that I find to be fun. I don't give a fuck what the visual representation of said character is.

At what age exactly does this retarded shit stop being important?
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>>251497489
>>tfw they refuse to take out regular Link

FTFY
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>>251497373
thank you for the hope anon.
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>>251497291

this is all i want too.
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>Isaac
>Andy
I don't.
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>>251497475
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>>251497187
>What's the point of revealing all characters, even hidden ones?
To either make the disappointment sting less or make you more hyped.
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>Elite Beat Agents/Ouendan
>Rhythm Heaven Rep that isn't that fucking Chorus Boy
>Wonder-Red
>Pokemon Conquest Oda Nobunaga
>Kyle Hyde
>Anna
>Snake
RIP in Peace
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>>251497529
You're right. He was smart enough to realize established franchises still had characters with adding before going to the bottom of the barrel with ideas like Lip or Prince Sable
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>>251493440
Just make a mii of that character oh you knew that already?

Well.. Since it seems you know the roster from the leaker, did you know he recently said DLC is be considered? It's very vague he didn't exactly say dlc characters but still you never know
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>My friends have no idea who any of the newcomers are except for Pac-Man and Mega Man
>One actually thought Rosalina's first appearance was Mario Kart Wii
>Every character casualfags know was already added in Brawl
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>>251497792
>Wonderfags still butthurt

I love Sakurai
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>>251497792
>>Rhythm Heaven Rep that isn't that fucking Chorus Boy
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>>251497475
>Steve Oedekirk's daughter

Is she hot?
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>>251497401
>Just because a character that you want gets in doesn't mean that they'll suit your playstyle

Everyone is super excited to play as Mega Man. Countless sources say he's weird as hell to play as. Many of those people won't bother maining him since he won't mesh with their playstyle.

That's why I'm just excited for roster size, and not individual characters.
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WHERE THE FUCK IS METAKNIGHT
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>>251497152
In brawl perhaps, but in melee the motherfucker is a beast in the right hands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JpcxpHZG0E

He doesn't care! HE DOESN'T CARE!
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>>251495735
>Geno
He was shit in the game he was in.
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>>251497543
>implying implications
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SNAKE? SNAKE?! SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE!!
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>No Twilight Sparkle
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>>251497529
What franchises did you want fighters from?

>>251497401
>>251497580
Because regardless of how they fight, If that character is someone I really like, then I will play as them even if they aren't fast attackers.

Looking at you Ike.
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>>251497792
>>Rhythm Heaven Rep that isn't that fucking Chorus Boy
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if fe gets a newcomer it should be an antagonist like walmart, ashnard or nergal
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>>251497972
>>251498274
Is it just me or does the actual sound quality of the Chorus game sound like absolute fucking dogshit?
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>>251497821
>before going to the bottom of the barrel
But he already added Miis and Wii Fit Trainer.

I mean seriously. Say what you will about Lip and Prince Sable, I don't care much for them myself but at least they're from video games. Wii Fit Trainer is from a glorified exercise program that only barely counts as a game, and Miis I shouldn't even have to explain, they're the most generic you can get and will be used for either self insertion, adding animu characters, or putting in Hitler and Stalin again as if that hasn't been driven into the ground over the course of eight years. Literally anyone who isn't Krystal would have been better, in my opinion.

You're free to like them and disagree, but this is just what I think.
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>no Duster
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>>251498196
He'll be back sooner or later.
Probably as soon as MGS HD Collection with a remastered twin snakes comes to Wii U
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>>251497995
I'd hit it.
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>>251498490
who?
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>>251498453
>Muh Villains
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>>251498223
See >>251496690
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>>251498474
Sound quality in general isn't very stellar on DS. However, RHF has top notch sound/music quality

i actually really hate rhythm heaven on DS and if i werent trying to get all perfects, id never touch it again
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>>251497952
Not mad, just disappointed.
>>251497972
>>251498274
I hate his fucking face, but I want a Rhythm Heaven character. Wrestler+Reporter would be baller as fuck and the hime cut girl is a qt.
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>>251498049
seriously. he was my main in brawl and id be pretty pissed if he was cut for whatever reason
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>>251498619
At least you're making yourself look like a whiny faggot by yourself then.
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>>251498716
I have Fever, it's excellent and I'd love a new entrry on the Wii U. I'm just saying I don't get why people love the Chorus game so much, it sounds shitty.
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>>251498724
>Liking hime cuts
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>>251498716
What's wrong with the DS game?
If anything, Fever gave me a hard time because my family's TV speakers are dogshit and have incredible latency.
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>>251498049
>>251498746

A mixture of newcomers and veterans will not be revealed until September 13th.
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>>251498797
I really don't care so long as I don't inadvertently make an entire fanbase look bad. I think /v/ has had enough of that sort of name calling and finger pointing.

>>251498049
>>251498746
>Sakurai
>Cutting a Kirby character
What are you smoking? I bet he won't even get nerfed.
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>>251498746

So you just pressed a button and won is what you are saying.

PermaNoob detected.
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>>251498890
Poor controls and bad sound quality.
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>>251499061
Flicking was easy man. Fuck the expert guitar lessons though.
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>>251499045
Metaknight is going to be combo city
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>>251498746
Gee whiz, the objectively best character was your main in that shitty game?
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>>251498594
The lanky thief guy from Mother 3
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>>251499045
>MK gets buffed
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>>mfw my main was confirmed day one and vastly improved
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>>251498223
Not him, but I'd love to see Isaac and Mach Rider in Smash. I also wouldn't mind seeing Saki and Ray get promoted to playable characters as well. I want to see more niche franchises get attention and I want to see a proper retro rep so his/her series can get a revival.
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;_;
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>>251499282
I super happy for you Bowser bros. He was unplayable in the last two games, looks great now.
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>>251499050
>>251499228
are there actually people who used metaknight because he was good and not because they liked meta knight
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>>251493440
>No newcomer you want will EVER make it into Kerfuffle.
Worse is when you realize no newcomer you want will ever make it into Smash period, 'til Sakurai steps down from the series.
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>>251499502
Yes. Because he is, again, objectively the best character in the game.
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>>251498746
>tfw used Meta Knight since day one because you fucking love Kirby games
>everyone thinks you're a tier whore
I wish my favorite characters weren't always top tier
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>>251499605
What kind of shit taste do you have?
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>>251499352
Nothing is wrong with that considering how good it did Pit, But when it don't happen don't act like a whiny faggpt.
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>>251499673
I know that feeling so much
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>TFW no Dunsparce Pokeball
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>>251499034
This is one of the best ways to spot underage b&. People who remember nothing about Japan Time.
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>>251499636
Nigga, I played as him mainly because I liked him from the Kirby series and liked his fighting style.
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>>251499941
That's nice but you should also know that no one else matches him.
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>>251499727
IT'S NOT SHIT Taste. But I want Klonoa. We won't get that until Sakurai gives in and we get a new director for smash 5.
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>>251499061
>bad sound quality
>2014
>Not owning at least 2 pairs of headphones
Holy shit. You /v/irgins really are piss poor
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>>251500027
>But I want Klonoa
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>>251493440
I got Little Mac, Megaman, and Pac-Man. They were all I wanted.

Now all I have to do is wait for Ganondorf.
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>>251493596
This. It's better than a sticker.
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>>251500119
My nigga
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Pissed at Saki still being an AT, but the roster so far is very nice.
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>>251497291
all I ever wanted.
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>>251500027
Klonoa is NEVER EVER going to be in. He's not even popular for a third party character
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Pretty good actually

I always wanted a Rhythm Heaven rep but knew it would be too obscure, but hey look at that, Gematsu who was right so far with all but 3 Predictions was right.

That's not to say it was final, there's possibly more especially given that the leaker didn't say Rosalina

Though I am stressed waiting to see if K. rool is in or not, Kremlings in Smash Run and Namco making the game has sparked hope
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>>251499984
Thank god I don't play at a high competitive level where It's extremely obvious and with my cousin and his friends where I always win even when I am not Meta Knight.
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Isaac is all I want.
There's still hope, right?
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>>251500027
>Klonoa
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I love Toon Link, but I'd be fine with them taking him out and replacing him with Prince Sable.
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>>251500119
>>251500294
>>251500532
I still don't get it.... Pac-Man's not even a character.... Klonoa or Dark Souls would be cooler rep.
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>tfw no Zero
>tfw he gets in for Smash 5 and it's in the Zero design and not X2+ design
Fuggg
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>>251500313
I'd rather have Cranky or Funky. Too bad DK's final smash is still shit
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>>251500639
>I still don't get it.... Pac-Man's not even a character

You underage or something?
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>>251500639
>Pac-Man's not even a character
Stop being a little bitch about it anon.
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I'm so glad game and watch and lucas made it in, I will never feel this feeling, pacman was just icing on the victory cake.
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>>251500639
Pac-Man is a character you shithead.
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>>251500639
How is Pac-man "not a character"?
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>>251500639
>Klonoa or Dark Souls would be cooler rep.
>Dark Souls
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>>251500591
It doesn't work like that nigga
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>>251493440
>wanted Villager
>wanted Megaman
>wanted Little Mac
>wanted Pac-Man
>wanted ____Mii
Pretty sure they'll add at least another one or two I want. My only semi-impossible dream is Simon Belmont and even he has a chance as long as Snake isn't in.
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>>251500656
>and it's in the Zero design

That's the better design.
>He wants glass boobies
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>>251500656
What the fuck is wrong with you? He's already in Marvel and TvC with a moveset that's much larger than the average 14 moves in Smash Bros
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>>251498073
>no one made a webm of the announcers at the end

Jesus christ, that match tho
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>>251499727
Better taste and imagination than Sakurai has, I assure you.
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>>251500591
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>>251500908
I want thick bulky armor and boxed shoulders, not underwear. I'll take glass boobies over a gaybar vest and tightie whities.
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>>251500992
please post your superior taste so i can laugh at you
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>>251500854
Which Mii? Gunner looks fucking baller. I already made a Clint Eastwood to stick in a cowboy costume so I can walk into town and fuck shit up.
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>>251500992
So I'm guessing that means you wouldn't add Ridley
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>>251500835
I'm well aware they can't remove a character that's been already announced.

I'm just saying that I could live with a Smash that has Modern Link and Prince Sable.
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>>251500639
>Dark Souls
Must not... take bait.
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>>251500985
Yeah, and I was super happy. Hell I nearly shat myself when I found out he was in TvC. Why does that mean I can't want him in Smash? I prefer Smash's gameplay anyway.
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>>251500639
Stop, you're making people who actually like Klonoa look bad.
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>>251501251
Fuck, that sounds awesome.
They better release amiibos that hold Smash Bros Mii info so that they can be tourney legal
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>>251500639
>people responding to this post seriously
>not noticing those fucking middle school-tier ellipses

Still made me slightly mad, 6/10
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>>251500776
He'd make a cool Assist Trophy
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>>251501427
They will be once things settle down and the tourney community establishes 4 "standard" moves for them or something stupid like that.
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>>251501659
I thought I heard Tourneyfags were in favor of customizable movesets?
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>>251501305
It's not that they can't remove a character, it's that they are reusing animations from Brawl with tweaked hitboxes. All they had to make was a new Toon Link character model and tweak his hitboxes and add some extra frames here and there.
This is why all the brawl newcomers are coming back
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>wanted Palutena reveal and Mr Game and Watch reconfirmation
>got both
>mfw
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>>251501728
They're probably for the variety, so they can rule out 2/3rds of the moves as illegal.
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>>251496861
Mr Game & Watch hasn't actually been confirmed yet, and I'm worried the teaser at the end of Pacman's reveal is all I'm going to see of him
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>>251501728
Oh yeah? I could get behind that if so.
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>>251501362
Megaman's already in.
Zero's in an Onimusha fighter that plays like Smash as well. I think we've had enough of Inafune's prodigal son
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>>251501907
Sakurai wouldn't do that to a 2 time vet
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I prayed to the godess Palutena every day, and then she answered them during E3. Checkmate atheists.
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>>251501152
Now why would I fall for that bait, anon?

If you must know, in an effort to be more in touch with the fanbase, I'd come to your house, poll you on what you most wanted, assured you they'd all be seriously considered, then not put a single one in.

Then in the credits, I'd put your hopeful picture followed by 'if you laugh at this Ridley will be unlocked.'. Except he doesn't.

Master level troll. gg no re
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>>251501659
>>251501728
All custom moves should be legal. Melee is broken anyways, why can't this be?
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>>251501870
Bullshit bro, I've seen lots of tourneyfags say that custom moveset tournaments would be cool, but it might get tedious to put together.
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Jokes on you, OP, my newcomer dream has been Day 1 Confirmed.

Still

>King K. Rool may not make it.
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>>251501972
Yeah, I haven't gotten around to playing the Onimusha game yet. I'd still enjoy having him in though, but I could say that for a lot of characters most people wouldn't exactly agree with.
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>>251502197
You know they're going to rigidly define a "best of" set and never deviate from it. It's what they do.
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>>251502224
He was deconfirmed alongside Kraid to be a Smash Run boss.
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>>251502039
are you okay, dude? it was just a simple request
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>>251502319
When was that?
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>>251493440
> Marina Liteyears ill never make it in

S-shak..shake s-shake.
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>>251495139
You're right about him fitting in.
but he's too small.

I personally wanted to see toxicroak.
he could be grab and stun oriented, sort of like DK.
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>>251495164
It is not a very wonderful feel.
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>>251499673
Maybe you should start playing Ganon.

People will tier whore for Ganon just as much as Metaknight, except when you push their shit in, they'll give you instant respect rather than snobby sneers.
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>>251502319

Cool source, friend.

That besides:
>Character who is effectively on par with Bowser and Dedede in terms of size, series role, and moveset variability
>reduced to NPC boss in one mode for one sku of the game

I'd rather him be a trophy.
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>>251502593
Smash needs more grapplers, that's for sure.
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>>251502468
Around 23 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujAkMslCfjo
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SUPA FIGHTAN ROBAT MEGAMEN
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>>251502712
>Character who is effectively on par with Bowser and Dedede in terms of size, series role, and moveset variability
>series role
No.
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>>251495164
>>251502630
>mfw wonderfags got BTFO
god damn that was the greatest daily pic
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>>251502318
That's a gross generalization. Obviously there will be an optimal set, but there will always be players, good players, who find a way to make other sets work. Just like with Pokemon.
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>Smash and Bayo 2 both set for release in October
>Implying she won't be the last newcomer reveal
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>>251502712
>I'd rather him be a trophy.
But it'd be better for him to be a boss, Anon.
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>>251500639
I wish I had that screen cap of the kid on Gaia saying that, because Bugs Bunny doesn't have super powers, Naruto is a better character.
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>>251502959
Whatever. Just wait for the "rules" to roll in by every tournament about which moves are "off limits" or "unfair" or even "underpowered" that people won't touch. Tourney players will ruin this. It's already predetermined.
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>>251502938
>tfw mariofags got BTFO
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>>251503267
They wouldn't reveal a character's trophy before revealing them, Anon.
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>>251502820
I wouldn't say deconfirmed just yet, but then again who else would be the big Kremling boss? At least he's in the game, so I'm happy about that.
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I'm happy with MegaMan and Little Mac, two characters I definitely want in. As for the rest of the newcomers they all look like fun and are great homages to their characters and series and I hope fans of that series\character are happy with their inclusion.
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>>251503354
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>>251497543
so you can be correct all the time right?
fuck your tier list.
fuck brawl.
fuck project mammy
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>>251501760
So, you're saying that they can't take out a character because making a new character is too hard?

I didn't realize that Nintendo had become UbiSoft.
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>>251502938
Of all the deconfirmations, Skullkid was more satisfying. People constructing mental movesets of one of the most minor villains in the series and trying to tell everyone he deserves it more than anyone was more than a little irritating. He only has one real move, "summon moon" and it's only worth of a final smash.
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>>251502938
>lol blown the fuck out! epic tears so delicious!

I don't even get you fags. Do you actually enjoy smash or are you just here to act obsessive over other people's disappointment
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>>251502959
And those aren't the guys who will be winning.
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>>251493757
>and still want beltan zipper
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>implying he isn't confirmed
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>>251498746
>playing as metaknight

you poor soul.
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>>251502963
Only if Sakurai gets over his fear of guns.
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>>251503462
It's just the way it works. Their trophies are based on their official Smash art. Wonder Red's trophy doesn't even match Kerfuffle's style for the playable characters.
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>>251503354
Wonder Red had a model made specifically for that trophy. So did Phosphora and she turned out to be an AT, so I'm betting WR is at least an AT.
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>>251503745
I humored the possibility when all we saw was a shadow. But let's be real. It isn't happening. He's just a boss or stage hazard.
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>>251498852
>not foreseeing a time of Kings and Princesses
>not wanting to fight for your lands chosen princess
>not bringing glory to your house
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>>251503225
Man anti-tourneyfags are always so booty blasted.
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>>251503462
>>251503267
Yeah fuck those anti-wonderedbros
Look I just unlocked misty's trophy but it didn't say she was not playable
how do I unluck her /v/?
It has been 13 years but I don't still unlock her
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>>251503806
See >>251503931
That trophy's model is 100% original. It cannot be found anywhere in TW101 unlike the Brittany or Saria trophies.
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>>251503539
No what I'm saying is that Toon Link's inclusion doesn't decide if Prince Sable gets in or not. No veteran inclusion "takes up space" for what could've been a newcomer.
If Sakurai wants Prince Sable in, he'll be in.
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>>251503778
Sakurai is against realistic guns. Bayo uses MAGIC guns.
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>>251503806
>Wonder Red's trophy doesn't even match Kerfuffle's style for the playable characters.
Even when his model is extremely detailed? I think it's unlikely that he'll be playable, but I at least expect him to be an AT.

Am I the only here who get taken at the top of page sometimes whenether someone posts in a thread? It's very annoying
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>>251499390
shit meme
shit game
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>>251504024
Melee was from a different time anon.
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>>251503931
Lots of characters have their models touched up for their trophy appearances, Wonder Red wouldn't be anything special. At most, he'll be an AT.
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>no Wonder Red
>no Skull Kid
>no Geno
>probably no Ridley
>no Bayonetta
>no Protoman
>no Zero
>no K. Rool
>no Sceptile
>no Bowser Jr.
>no Snake
>no R.O.B
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>>251504021
>>
I had no expectations on the roaster, so I was pleasantly surprised with every new announcement they made. I'm honestly impressed at the sheer amount of characters currently revealed. It's like they're pulling a Mario Kart 8 here, revealing almost everything before the game is even out. Now, I'm not saying that'a a bad thing, I'm just making an observation here.
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>>251504024
Isn't Misty supposed to be like, 10 and from a region based in japan?
No japanese child has those proportions
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>CTRL+F
>No Tails

Fuck y'all bustas
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>>251504217
Misty's 12 at that point.
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>>251503778
Are you saying that because of Snakes moveset in Brawl?
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>>251504132
Even when his model was extremely detailed. That won't be unique to his trophy.
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>>251500992
You're a faggot.
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>>251495284
>Been on /co/ so long that Shulk=She Hulk
Is that actually a thing? I thought when people on /v/ confused the main character of one of the best known jrpgs of last gen with she hulk, they were just trolling
>>
I dont know that feel, OP
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>>251494592
What? Megaman has been on other platforms since the 90s. He's not a Nintendo character anymore.
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>>251504061
Yeah look at tiki's trophy
She must be in the game because her model isn't like the awakening one
>>251504131
>>251502963
we already have a sega rep, and two other game icons as third parties, plus samus has her jet heels and metroid's annversary is on august
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>>251503632
Not that guy, but shit is just funny. It's funny how much butthurt and frustration is caused by something so silly.
Like shit like this >>251503745
And people are living so far in their fantasy they do things like >>251503559 mentioned
Even though they have no evidence and are basically just guessing, convincing themselves and others it's going to happen, believing it so fiercely and passionately they basically start a mob that just sits around and circlejerks over the possibility. Then after months and months of said circlejerk when thy get deconfirmed it's just so funny to see the reaction. And with Ridley the circlejerk, butthurt, and frustration of his fans combined with the butthurt and anger of the Metroid fanbase is going to cause the biggest shitstorm since Bayonetta 2. I honestly don't know if putting him in or not would cause the bigger storm. But I can't wait.
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>>251504269
>more than one rep for a non-Nintendo IP
haha, no.
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>>251504304
My point still stands!
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>>251504269
I kind of doubt second bananas of third party games have a shot, but I'd take him or Knuckles in a heartbeat.
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Pious will happen, you will all see, and so will Andy, I can feel it.
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>No Quote

Nintendo why? You release his game and remake his game a million times on all your platforms, and love him but yet he won't make it
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>we will never get anything better than the sneaking man
>we will never get sneaky snake in smash again
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>>251504269
fuck your 8 year old fox shitter.
he died in sonic 2 and never came back you fucking furry.
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>>251503931

>WR as AT
>WR does a random W101 attack
>Hand/Sword/Gun/Hammer/Whip/Claw/Bomb
>Has a 20% chance to do Platinum
>Has a 10% chance to FULEPSMJFMDBGBBLBSSIFTFWA (effectively resetting the smash ball's chance to appear and replacing it in a less conspicuous way)
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>>251501410

I'm fairly certain that that's the point.

He's probably butthurt because they have a thread right now that isn't getting deleted for a change.
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>>251504530
Nintendo didn't publish cavestory you silly nig
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>>251504397
She-Hulk is pretty big, though. Bigger than Shulk will ever be, because she's been around for quite a while and built up a reputation.
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>>251504530
you and me brotah
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>>251504453
Making fun of idiots who convinced themselves of ridiculous things is one thing, but the whole Wonder Red thing is just dumb

Most people were basically just disappointed, I don't think many totally expected him. But after the trophy was shown off all the threads were still just "YELLOW LAUGHING MAN BTFO LOLOLOL"

so don't even pretend you've got some sort of high ground on these people
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>>251504501
Why doesn't Sega just have AM2 make their own crossover fighter? That isn't fighters megamix
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>>251502462
Perfectly fine. It was an experiment.

The fact that you didn't bat an eyelash at my behavior shows that you're totally fine with the bullshit Sakurai's pulling with Smash 4, because my behavior isn't particularly different from his.

As for your request, as I've said in other topics, antagonists would be a good start and, no, not ''cause tey sew kewl top kek', but because they're actually fucking important. Hades or Medusa, K. Rool, Vaati and Porky or Giegue would be given top priority. Characters like Wart, Fawful and Ridley would be given serious consideration for potential fun inclusions, but certainly not guaranteed.

Then I'd show some love to RPG franchises that deserve it. Since Mother would already be getting an antagonist under the Add More Antagonists Act, I'd line up pretty much every RPG in Nintendo's franchise and pick out their most important characters. Isaac is a good start. So as not to seem like a huge prick to the Japanese, I'd also strongly consider Shulk even though I've never played Xenoblade and won't play X.

After that, I'd consider Fire Emblem Awakening representation that's not a lord. Likely a nimble spear-wielding Donnel or, if I intended to add Bandanna Dee to shut the Deefags up, Avatar or Anna. Chances are, both of them would have a magic-heavy moveset and use a shortsword for some of their normals.

Following that, I'd start to actually start finally considering niche franchises and characters. For that, I'd actually start polling my fanbase so I had a better idea of what characters people actually wanted. I'd actually poll Japan, Europe AND America and cross-reference the data gathered to make my decisions.

Newcomers like Greninja, Little Mac, Pac-Man, and Mega Man can stay. That's 11 guaranteed newcomers before I start exploring niche franchises, and up to a total 15 possible actual newcomers.

Of course, I can understand why Sakurai doesn't do it that way, since he needs stuff for the next Smash Brothers, but damn.
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>>251504603
>playing the shitty handheld version
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>>251493440
by not buying the wii u
i will start spending money on nintendo when they start giving me what i want not the other way around. They can go broke for all i care
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>>251501251
I'm doing a swordsman hitler against three jewish brawlers. I will fight for true aryan justice
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>>251504501
>implying Knuckles isn't worse than a second banana now

RIP Knuckles
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>>251504603
>died in sonic 2
you what
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what's the over/under for mewtwo?

mewtwo is my main, in project m.
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>Ray will never be in a game with custom movesets ever again
>Sakurai will never add his original waifu
>Rool will never return his rejected reptile club uniform
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>>251505061
So India?
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>issac
>K.rool
>advanced wars rep


all i want sakurai
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>>251504914
Sonic Battle was pretty fuckin neato at least.
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>>251505145
Never
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>>251504967
Keep cryin'
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>tfw Piousfag
>Advance Wars fag
>Geistfag
>K.Rollfag
>Redfag
>Ridleyfag
>Dark Samusfag
>Banjo Kazzoiefag
Well at least I'm a Little Macfag
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is mac the only character with alternate costumes? or do all the characters have alts? cause mega-evolution charizard would be the shit.
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>>251505092
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>>251493440
>Pac-Man
>Sonic
>Mega Man
>Little Mac

I am pretty content, they went the extra mile already, adding more characters I want would be ridiculous given I want a Victory Viper Assist Trophy, Any Castlevania rep, Doom Guy (He was on a nintendo platform, twice, he counts more than fucking snake) and Ninten / Mask Man
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>>251504869
Like I said, I just think it's funny. I loved W101, and I knew there wasn't a single chance. And don't group me in with the shitposters. I just sit back and watch the circlejerk turn from HYPE HYPE HYPE to full on sadness. And no I don't think I have any higher ground; I just like to be entertained and boy does shit like that fit the bill. Maybe they should start by lowering their expectations a bit.
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>>251505336
fuck.
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>>251505145
I liked Mewtwo a lot, he was about my third favorite character in Melee, but it's time to let it go.

We need new experiences. If a heavy backlog of characters we don't really need have obligatory appearances, Smash is never going to evolve
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>>251505264
oh shit
I just realized how great emerl would work with the new custom movesets, although he wouldn't fit in at all
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>>251505390
Mega Charizard is a final smash. And as far as I know, every character is getting an alt costume.
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>>251505336
How do you know, is your dad Sakurai?
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>>251505357
i will buy it when they release it for my cellphone next year anyways
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>>251505560
sick. thanks.
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>>251505382
Are you like the nega version of this guy? >>251495652
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>Metaknight is the best character in Brawl because he's the only character that goes at Melee speed
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>>251504945
>Hades or Medusa, K. Rool, Vaati and Porky or Giegue would be given top priority.

I'd like you To stop posting, immediately
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>>251505628
He just ventured a guess. Keep that in mind before your optimism goes out of control. Little Mac is the only one we've seen them go nuts with alt costumes. There's still a lot of recolors.
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>>251504945
>Placing Vaati over Ridley
I'm not even a Ridleyfag but come on.
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>>251505147
>tfw she isn't even a trophy
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>>251499282
I played as Bowser at Smash Fest and rekt the other 3 players.

He's a lot of fun to play as.
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>>251506162
>tfw Bowser in Project M free-for-alls
The game is over before it begins.
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>>251505560
>And as far as I know, every character is getting an alt costume
Oboi, time to speculate

>Mario
Dr. Mario
>Luigi
Dr. Luigi?
>Peach
Sports clothes
>Bowser
Dry Bowser
>Yoshi
who knows
>Link
A different Link
>Toon Link
Spirit Tracks?
>Zelda
A different Zelda
>Shiek
A new Shiek design
>Samus
Prime suit
>ZSS
Other M young Samus
>Pikachu
More headwear
>Charizard
Who knows
>Greninja
Who knows
>Lucario
Who knows
>Kirby
Who knows
>Fox
Different design
>Ike
FE Awakening design
>Marth
Older design
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>>251505413
Snake was on a Nintendo platform twice though (three times if you count the American made version of Metal Gear 2 that has absolutely nothing to do with the actual series)
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>>251505724
>pic related

>>251505952
What? My serious consideration of Ridley isn't enough? If it's any consolation, once I got done with the original batch of antags, Ridley would be the first on the list. I want him as much as the next Ridleyfag, but I'm trying to be fair to the series that don't have antagonists.

Vaati was kind of a last second decision to add. He makes sense to add, since he's the only non-Ganondorf villain to actually show up in more than one game. I felt that was worth something.

Worth way more than Toon Link, anyway, who'd have gotten the boot to fit Vaati in.
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>>251506338
>Dr. Luigi?
>not Mr. L
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when's Wolf
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>>251506520
>Worth way more than Toon Link, anyway, who'd have gotten the boot to fit Vaati in
What shit taste.
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>>251493440
I couldn't think of any newcomers I'd want. I just wanted Ike and Snake to return.

Snake is gone, but Ike is back. I'm satisfied.
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>>251506338
>more headwear
>not pichu or raichu
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Do people even want Paper Mario in? I do. I think he'd be a pretty cool character to play as.
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>>251506338
>Toon Link
>Spirit Tracks?
You are really bad at this.
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>>251506653
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>>251506372
he was on a nintendo platform 4 times even if you don't count MG 2
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>>251506653
>actually defending Wasted Slot: The Character
I thought people knew better than this
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>>251493440
Who Andy here?

The fact the Infantry and Tanks AT hasn't been shown yet gives me a little shred of hope
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>>251499034
THANK YOU FOR THAT FUCKING PIC

Holy shit, now I have ammunition against those "WHERE IS CAPTAIN FALCON/NESS/JIGGLY????" idiots
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>>251506851
>implying falco and wolf aren't better examples of wasted slots
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>>251506851
Better than Vaati, at least. Vaati would be pretty retarded.
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>>251506338
>Toon Link
PAJAMAS YA IDJIT

>ZSS
CLASSIC GREEN HAIR, EXPOSED MIDRIFF, and PINK CLOTHES YA IDJIT


>Sheik
THE OLD SHIEK DESIGN YA IDJIT
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>>251506820
Oh shite, I forgot about that
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>>251504501
>>251505092
>>251505395
Knuckles will not be playable this year in a relevant smash game aside from shitty Ex clones.
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>>251504778
But he was on every Nintendo console since DS

He's not considered third party, is he?
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>>251506807
I wanted him before Rosa was announced, but now it'd be too many Mario characters
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>>251506917
>dubs on /v/ other than 00
>calling dubs
did you even read the rules
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>>251506338
>Samus
>Prime suit
>not light suit
>not dark suit
>not fusion suit
>just the one that is a slight variation of the one she already wears.
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>>251506851
>wasted slot
>same animations as brawl with tweaked hitboxes
Sure
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>>251506934
Falco should've been cut from Brawl, but Wolf has the potential to be his own character instead of a clone. I hope Sakurai declones him in SSB4.
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>>251507043
Fusion suit would be fucking great. But I somehow doubt it'd be in
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>>251506807
I still think he has excellent potential for moves. For the people who hate the idea, at least he isn't "Dr. Mario."
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>>251494592
>thinking obscure shit like Ridley or Shluk deserve to be in Smash over Pac Man or Mega Man because T-THEY ARE NINTENDO CHARACTERS!!
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>>251507120
But Wolf already isn't a clone
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>>251507120
All Wolf needs to go full Luigi is one different special and a new Final Smash.
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posting Mii qr codes
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>>251506946
In hindsight, that's probably true. I'm the guy who posted my picks, by the way.

No matter how I try to approach him, he'd probably play like Avatar, so I guess the better idea would be to toss him.
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>>251507382
He's the least cloney clone, but at the end of the day he whips out a fucking Landmaster.
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>>251506963
>CLASSIC GREEN HAIR, EXPOSED MIDRIFF, and PINK CLOTHES YA IDJIT
Fuck year.
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>>251507524
Meant for >>251507368
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>>251507214
It's a long shot, but so was Pink Jumpsuit or Wireframe Mac.
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>>251507524
If he had a different up-smash and his final smash was changed to involve the Star Wolf team then I think he'd be different enough to deserve a spot
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>>251507524
all of his normal moves are unique
his up b is different
his side b is different
his blaster is slow
his reflector is the same.

Landmaster was just easy to put in
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>>251507214
I'd like to see
>varia (from super or prime, not this Other M bullshit)
>gravity suit
>light suit
>PED suit
>fusion suit
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I all I wanted was Ike, ZS Samus, Ice Climbers and Sonic back
All I wanted was Megaman and Little Mac and Shulk for newcomers

5/7 ain't bad. Fucking satisfied.
But why won't Sakurai let K. Rool fight?
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I went back and played Brawl for a bit...damn it has only gotten worse with age.

I'm not a tourney fag or anything, but everything about Brawl just feels so limited by the Wii. Even the gameplay suffers...the maps can get too spread out, too many pointless items, idk...maybe its just because i'm getting older, but its nowhere as fun as N64 or Melee
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>>251507796
My only problem with people having pipe dreams for awesome alts for characters is that they're giving Sakurai's imagination and attention span way too much credit.

Wireframe and Jumpsuit Mac were flukes, in my opinion. 'til I see some more evidence that Sakurai gives a damn about anything not a palette swap, I'm assuming he's guilty 'til proven innocent.
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>>251507879
Yes, I know that Gump.

His specials are still clearly based on Fox's. That's okay though, because they're still very different. He just needs a move that looks more unique, and a new FS.
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>>251504957
>>251505112
Tails was changed into some little boy faggot.

the only reason I can think of why you faggots need clarification is because you started playing SANIC when he got raped into the trash known as sonic adventure.
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why the fuck does Falco have a landmaster FS
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>>251508235
I'm certainly not holding my breath. Just considering the possibility we'll be pleasantly surprised.
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>mfw I wanted Mega Man, Little Mac, Rosalina, and Palutena
>mfw I never asked for but totally love WFT, Villager, and Pac-Man
>mfw I'm fine with Mii Fighters
>mfw I'm alright with Greninja for the most part

Y'all niggas need to learn to lighten up sometimes and see the fun parts of what you get. Loving this roster so far. Only nigga I didn't get that I wanted was Wonder Red, but I'm over that now.
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TON
IGHT IS THE NIGHT
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>>251506338
>>Ike
>FE Awakening design
eat a dick
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>>251508906
And it's gonna happen again and again.
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>>251509115
Has to
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I don't give a fuck as long as my nigga Ness is back. Hoping for Lucas too but not holding my breath and if they cut him and leave falco and wolf I'm gonna get a clip and unload it in a Nip
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>>251502319
actually the spoiler was big kremlin. that doesn't automatically mean that it's K.Rool. could be Krush or Klubba too.

K.Rool was never directly mentioned.
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>new update
>WARNING: CHALLENGER APPROACHING
>HOLY SHIT THAT'S A BIG GUY
>kraid confirmed
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>>251502712
preferring a trophy over a boss.

wtf is wrong with you?
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>>251509562
FOR YOU
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>>251507264
Yeah, that's why I think he'd be a cool character. There's a ton of things you could do with his move set that'd be unique.
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>>251503394
>I wouldn't say deconfirmed just yet
reasonable.

>but then again who else would be the big Kremling boss?
Klubba or Krusha or both.
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>>251502712
>effectively on par with Bowser and Dedede in terms of size and moveset variability
>on par with D3 in size
>the character who is canonically about 16 inches tall
Also Charizard exists, what can Ridley do that Zard can't?
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>>251509562
If I re-size you, will you fit in?
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>>251508219
look at ridley being too fucking big. as always.
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>>251508219
Lel looks like Pac-Man's interview went pretty well
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>>251508382
what about sonic 3
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>>251508219
>too many pointless items
You are welcome to your opinion, but the ratio of useful to useless items was WAY worse in Melee. Melee's item additions were 90% shit.
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>>251505112
He actually kind of did. Sega Master System/ Game Gear version that is. But only If you got the bad end.
>>
>No Snake
>Competitive play still nerfed

Literally pre-order cancelled.
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>>251510749

It would be extremely disproportionate.
>>
Villager, Little Mac, Mega Man, Pac-Man and Chorus Kids are playable.
Sorry, I don't feel that feel.
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>>251509562
>But wait, Mr. Sakurai, but I thought Kraid was too big for Smash Bros
>YOU'RE RIGHT
>Mini-Kraid confirmed
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Coping pretty good due to being not very interested in SSB in the first place.
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>>251511903
>and Chorus Kids
Counting your chickens before they've hatched, huh?
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>>251511589
video?
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>>251507304
>fucking Ridley
>obscure in any way shape or form
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>>251511632
literally no one gives a shit.
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>>251512028
It's just left as an open question. You beat Robotnik's "final" boss without the emeralds, approach Tails, and he gets teleported away before you save him. Then it shows his face in the stars like you see there.
>>
is Roy still considered worse than Marth in PM?
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>>251511903
>Chorus Kids
>playable
>>
>Palutena
>Rosalina
>Charizard and ZSS as separate characters
Coping rather well.
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>>251511978
>>251512414
r u 'avin a giggle m8
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>>251512321
it's debatable. there are good arguments for either.
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>>251495735
All geno was good for was geno-whirl ohko
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>>251512859
>calling it

not even close :^)
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>>251513050
fuck off cloud faggot
>>
Well I was crying myself to sleep every night and then Palutena got announced, so I'm crying a little less I guess.
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>>251495735
Megaman is nice enough. I like Zero, but come on. You are shitting all over a gift horse.
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>tfw no King K.Rool
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>>251493440
>TFW the character I main will never be cut
>The pose when this is said character
>>
Considering my favorite video game series is getting more representation, why would I be upset?
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>>251493440
Bitch, I wanted Little Mac. Have fun remaining unfulfilled, OP.
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>>251513568
littlemac fags are cunts
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>>251513186
I'm legitimately depressed because no one I want will get in or has gotten in. Except Mega Man, and he plays like crap. Kerfuffle was literally the only thing I was looking forward to and I expected to be good.
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>>251513843
Who the fuck did you want?
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>>251496951
Ice Climbers now rule the entire game unopposed. You trip into their warm, loving hands and get gangbanged and chaingrabbed to death every stock.

Now you come back with a new stock, wondering whether you should risk approaching again, and trip into their hands again

This kind of shit as well as the extremely defensive nature of Brawl is why I can't get into it.
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>>251513843
So are you just unable to be happy with characters you didn't ask for? I've had plenty of characters I wanted be deconfirmed but even the newcomers I didn't know existed appeal to me for one reason or another.
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>>251496861

>tfw my main and the newcomer I want most won't be in Smash Bros.
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>>251496861

Wario wasn't in Melee because Sakurai thought he deserved better than to be a heavy Mario clone, which was all the time they had for him. He's safe. July 4th reveal.
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>>251514516
Have faith, anon.
;_;
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>>251514203
I've already said I'm not saying it because I don't want to make that fanbase look bad.

>>251514275
>So are you just unable to be happy with characters you didn't ask for?
Not necessarily. While I'm not ecstatic about Little Mac, he sits fine with me. There's no reason for me to be upset. He's a pretty strong character from a previously unrepresented good, video game series.

But characters like Mii, Rosalina, WFT, Pac Man, and to an extent Palutena I can't handle. I think you know why for a lot of them.
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>>251514803
>But characters like Mii, Rosalina, WFT, Pac Man, and to an extent Palutena I can't handle. I think you know why for a lot of them.

Nope, I truly don't. I honestly can't understand the hate towards those besides maybe Miis because they can't be used online.

The other characters all have their value to the roster in terms of what they represent and they provide extremely interesting looking movesets. With something like Smash, I don't think there's anything more you could ask for.
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>>251514516
hey anon use the colored version
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>>251513843
you must be a fan of some shitty games then cause pretty much and nintendo related game worth a fuck has the rep it deserves.

inb4
>shitty anime character from obscure jrpg #78964

outside of Banjo, K.Rool, Conker, or Ridley you are being unreasonable.

and even Ridley is too much for obvious size and game-play reasons.

and conker is too vulgar.

K.Rool and Banjo are th only legitimate complaints and at this point in the Smash series life cycle with all of the characters you have to select from. even crying over Banjo and K.Rool makes you a spoiled ungrateful bitch.
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>>251515131
Just redirect this towards >>251515110

>>251515247
Banjo and Conker have been Microsoft property for over a decade.

Otherwise I more or less agree with you.
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>>251515247
>shitty anime character from obscure jrpg #78964
why people even use this argument
I've never seen this kind of shit on smash
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>>251515247
Banjo and K.Rool are irrelevant and Banjo barely had any games.
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>>251513829
I like Little Mac, but I'm sorry for your disappointment.
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>>251515478
Shulk, Lloyd
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>>251515631
>llyod
Barely anyone included him, everyon included pacman if they had a pacman rep
>shulk
He has been expected before and he's linkely to be in, plus his game sold 1+ million and X is coming out to wii u from the same devs
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>>251515247
>and game-play reasons.
Will you ever stop saying this.
And Little Mac only punches, can't be in for gameplay reasons.
And Pac-Man only eats, too boring for gameplay reasons.
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>>251515631
Were there really people who thought Lloyd or Klonoa would get in over Pacman?
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>>251515478
we have enough anime shit with the fire emblem fuckbags.

no more FE additions or any other anime game would be great.

fuck chrom, fuck, shulk, fuck lloyd
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An Advance Wars rep would so great that it would make the franchise rise up again. Guns, bombs, tanks, missiles and all that shit. Kinda like Snake but different.

I don't care if it's Andy or Sami. They deserve more that a fucking sprite.
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>>251515518
K.Rool irrelevant?

the fuck you on about?
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>>251515131
>Nope, I truly don't. I honestly can't understand the hate towards those besides maybe Miis because they can't be used online.

Rosalina because Mario is already adequately represented, an on top of that she's only been in two main series games. I consider her a waste of a slot.

Miis are the epitome of genericness. They're not even real characters, they only serve the purpose of people putting in anime or third party characters, making crude jokes, or self inserting themselves.

Pac Man, while he is iconic, is not relevant, has almost nothing to do with Nintendo, and is only in because Namco Bandai is helping to develop the game. Almost nobody cared about him and SSB until it was announced that Sora would be working on the game with them.

Palutena I hated because KI didn't need two reps until I saw her trailer and her normal moves, and then I liked her, but upon hearing/realizing her moveset would be entirely customizable I changed my mind somewhat back. It's bull that she gets to have that sort of moveset while plenty of other characters from unrepresented Nintendo IPs as well as already established ones in SSB would be more obvious choices, like Mega Man. But no, Sakurai shows favoritism to her because she's his waifu.
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>>251515910
>implying ridley wouldn't break the game in the same way meta-knight did.

little mac and pac man, have a move set that can be adapted to a party fighter.

ridley doesn't, without risking some broken shit. alongside taking up half the fucking screen.

ridleyfag will be ridleyfag
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>>251513829
You must be one of the ridleyfags
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>>251515131
>Nope, I truly don't. I honestly can't understand the hate towards those besides maybe Miis because they can't be used online.

Rosalina because Mario is already adequately represented, an on top of that she's only been in two main series games. I consider her a waste of a slot.

Miis are the epitome of genericness. They're not even real characters, they only serve the purpose of people putting in anime or third party characters, making crude jokes, or self inserting themselves.

Pac Man, while he is iconic, is not relevant, has almost nothing to do with Nintendo, and is only in because Namco Bandai is helping to develop the game. Almost nobody cared about him and SSB until it was announced that Sora would be working on the game with them.

Palutena I hated because KI didn't need two reps until I saw her trailer and her normal moves, and then I liked her, but upon hearing/realizing her moveset would be entirely customizable I changed my mind somewhat back. It's bull that she gets to have that sort of moveset while plenty of other characters from unrepresented Nintendo IPs as well as already established ones in SSB would be more obvious choices, like Mega Man. But no, Sakurai shows favoritism to her because she's his waifu.

WFT isn't even from a real video game, it's an exercise program.
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>Professor, we've got a letter! I've never seen this kind of seal before, who is it from?
>Hm, I thought I might be getting one of these. Not very gentlemanly, but who am I to turn down a friendly invitation?
A man can dream
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>>251516743
That would be an incredibly charming addition. I hope you get your wish.
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can we pleas have Bayonetta?

is she too lewd? too violent?

i really want her in.
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>>251516676
>Rosalina because Mario is already adequately represented, an on top of that she's only been in two main series games. I consider her a waste of a slot.

mfw my waifu got in over ridley

mfw i'mma main the bitch

mfw your tears
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>>251516676
Rosalina is a good character with a neat moveset
Miis are shoehorned in but they're designed well from the neck down and have neat movesets
WFT is from an exercise VIDEO GAME that sold a metric shitload of copies and has a neat moveset
stop being a fag
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>>251516928
no
Have a miibrawler and have heels samus
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But I did get what I want
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JUST GIVE HIM A CHANCE
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>>251516928
She doesn't really fit. I mean, Snake didn't either, but he was pretty darn iconic.
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>>251516676
>Rosalina because Mario is already adequately represented, an on top of that she's only been in two main series games. I consider her a waste of a slot.

Wrong. Mario has 4 reps where Pokemon had 6 and Zelda had 5. I'm going to assume you're counting Yoshi for him, which Smash itself doesn't do because Yoshi has many games of his own that he's representing away from Mario. Yoshi gets his own emblem, his own trophy set up, his own stages, and so on. Rosalina is, for all intents and purposes, the 5th Mario rep we have for the game. You're also overestimating the amount of main Mario games there are. The main Mario games are the EAD Tokyo ones, which means Galaxy, Galaxy 2, 3D Land, and 3D World. Rosalina was in three of those (she's a playable character for 3D World). Between all of that and being a popular new character, she deserves a slot.

>Miis are the epitome of genericness. They're not even real characters

Miis are the biggest elements of Nintendo systems nowadays. You make a Mii for any Wii, Wii U, or 3DS you buy. You use Miis for a large amount of games. Being a "real" character has never been a qualification for Smash anyhow, as evidenced by ROB and G&W.

>Pac Man, while he is iconic, is not relevant, has almost nothing to do with Nintendo, and is only in because Namco Bandai is helping to develop the game. Almost nobody cared about him and SSB until it was announced that Sora would be working on the game with them.

Pac-Man has quite a bit of history with Nintendo. Miyamoto cited Pac-Man as his favorite video game character. Pac-Man appears in the Mario Kart arcade games. Nintendo themselves even worked on a Pac-Man game I believe. He's somewhat of a rep for the arcade era where Nintendo made themselves known in the west anyhow. The two are connected.
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>>251516928
Her combatstyle just would work in smash
Also she might just be too tall
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>>251517275
i understand. still would be nice.

but unlike ridleyfags. i'm not expecting shit.

i'll cross my fingers for at least a trophy, but that's it.
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>>251517220
Not that I hate that choice, but it seems like it wouldn't have many options for a good moveset
I mean, there's only so much you can do with a plug and some shitty household appliances
Might make an alright Villager clone, but not much else
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>>251517432
>Also she might just be too tall

Rosalina?


(i know these things, i'm just a wishful thinker. don't really expect anyhting)
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Where is all this "Lucas is getting cut" bullshit coming from?
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>>251500591
>I love Toon Link, but I'd be fine with them taking him out and replacing him with Prince Sable.

>Not wanting both Sable and TL

Fuck you and your family; they're both completely different characters from completely different games made by completely different game developing teams using the same engine
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>>251517548
I'm impressed at your ability to handle a naysayer. I almost hope she gets in if only for your sake.
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>>251516676
>>251517408
>Palutena

I don't like how she has all that customization going on either, but I'm willing to allow it because at the end of the day, Smash is Sakurai's franchise and he can put a little of what he wants in as long as it works and makes some degree of sense. Considering the series is named after her in Japan, she's essentially to her franchise what Zelda is to, well, Zelda. Now, if he adds Dark Pit as his own character then I'd agree he's going overboard, but Palutena and Pit are both extremely important to their games so it's fine.

>WFT isn't even from a real video game, it's an exercise program.

Wii Fit is very much a video game. The minigames in it function like minigame collections do. It's not my type of video game, but it's definitely a video game.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_Fit#Aerobics_and_balance_games

And evidently fitness games are a genre, so it works for that as well.


Honestly, you people and your ideas of what's deserving and what aren't fall apart when you realize how subjective that really is. The most objective you can get on that is saying how Mario deserves to be in. That's about it.
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If Rhythm Heaven rep is true then I will. Also I don't dislike any of the newcomers really.
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>>251517758
That Gematsu leaker guy said Lucas would be cut and everyone believes it for some reason.
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>>251502938
>Rosalina fags shittin over W101

And this is the real reason why rosalina supporters get shat on. You people are no different for the fan base of lightning from square enix
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>>251517991
There's also the fact the whole custom moves thing makes him kinda superfluous.
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>>251517991
I don't remember anything in the gematsu leak about cuts. I think it has more to do with how he's redundant with Ness around.
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>>251517758
he is kind of a clone character. he hasn't been revealed or even hinted at. gematsu said he is being cut. most people looking for a mother rep, prefer ness anyway.

even with all of that. there is no confirmation that he is cut.

the truth is it's like 50/50

i'm personally betting he isn't cut and that he will be an unrevealed unlockable character. (but it's all speculation, on both sides)
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>>251517991
What I hope is that the leaker threw in some bullshit to throw people off like that Pokemon X/Y leaker did.

That's really what I think he is doing because I just can't see dlc characters and Lucas getting cut.
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>>251517167
>Rosalina is a good character with a neat moveset
Guess what so is everyone who isn't a clone.
>WFT is from an exercise VIDEO GAME
Not a game.
>and has a neat moveset
Guess what so does everyone who isn't a clone.

>>251517408
I know Mario has five now. It already had all of its main characters represented, this is just padding.

>The main Mario games are the EAD Tokyo ones, which means Galaxy, Galaxy 2, 3D Land, and 3D World. Rosalina was in three of those (she's a playable character for 3D World). Between all of that and being a popular new character, she deserves a slot.
Holy shit we'd better add fucking Bandanna Dee because he appeared in three mainline Kirby games. Why are you counting a cameo?

>Pac-Man has quite a bit of history with Nintendo.
In arcades and with that one GCN game, but that's it.
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I just want Travis Touchdown to be an Assist Trophy.
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>>251517558
Not this shit again.
There's also so much you can do with a character that only punches or who only races.
This is Sakurai we're talking about.
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>>251517805
thank you.
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The one character I want playable the most is an Assist Trophy, again.

Shulk and the Choir Kids will be nice, though.
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>>251517558
>giga robo smash
>chibi copter up
>mug shield
>chibi blaster bomb
>drake redcrest punch side b
>can catch items in his head and throw them later
>toothbrush sword
>butt-plug down b
There are plenty of possibilities anon
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>>251518556
>threw in some bullshit to throw people off
Why would you actively try to damage your credibility? Isn't it far more likely that he was just wrong?
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>Taking Smash seriously

I don't need to cope at all because I don't care. Are there characters that I'd like to see in Smash 4? Sure. Will I lose sleep if they aren't in? No.
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>>251518598
I have always seen images with that anime girl but never bothered to look up what it is.
What is it?
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>>251518704
You need to like much more mainstream shit, anon.
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>>251495120
>le Nintendo's Lightning may-may xD
She really is not.
She's been in 2 mainseries Mario games which is infinitely more than Waluigi and more than Wario I believe.
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I already got Little Mac and Ike is returning. I'm set.
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>>251518704
waluigi?
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>no Blunder Red
>no K. Rool
>no Advance Wars rep
>no Custom Robo rep
Little Mac looks fun though and his hoodie outfit is going to be cool to use.
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>>251507304
>comparing Shulk to Ridley
Disgusting
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>>251516007

Most thought that they would be better for a fighting game, but even they knew that Pac-Man was far more likely.
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>>251518956

No clue, I just wanted to post and image and found I don't have any NMH images
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>>251518560
>Guess what so is everyone who isn't a clone.
This isn't an argument
This isn't even an opposing opinion
If it was worded less faggy I would think you were secretly trying to agree with me
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>>251517991
>That Gematsu leaker guy said Lucas would be cut and everyone believes it for some reason.

If the leaker turns out wrong, and we get Robin instead of Chrom; there will be a rectal ragnarok across the internet. This means the leak is wrong and leaker bros was right all along

The only thing he got right was Palutena trailer at E3 and Miis having custom move sets similar to current characters like Samus/megaman/link/marth/etc and being toggable in the options menu so they replace the random button; all of which was recofirmed in the tree house direct

Either leaker wins, I'll still be upset. That means no Mach Rider or Advance Wars rep. Sakurai can fuck off with his console version, I'm jus buying the 3DS one and leaving it at that
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>>251519024
i don't recall wario and waluigi being in any core mario games.

could be mistaken
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I would have liked to see the Ray 01. Hell, I would like to see a new custom robo game like the GCB one. I would buy a WiiU for that shit.
Of course, not like that would ever happen. Nintendo abandoned it unfortunately.
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>>251519268
Wait that is Rahu, wrong image
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>>251513050
Meanwhile, Mallow wasn't good for anything.
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>>251518560
>I know Mario has five now. It already had all of its main characters represented, this is just padding.

Why shouldn't it get one more? Dr. Mario was a stretch and a clone for Melee, hardly even counting. Brawl had nothing. Do you really want it to stay as the same four fucking characters forever? That would be boring as shit and not an accurate representation of a franchise that's been using her more lately. Stop applying your stupid ass restriction, it's arbitrary and contradictory.

>Holy shit we'd better add fucking Bandanna Dee because he appeared in three mainline Kirby games. Why are you counting a cameo?

What cameo? She's important in Galaxy, has somewhat of a place throughout Galaxy 2 (appears for the Super Guide system of that game, at the ending, and on the hub world after you complete the game), and is a complete, playable character in 3D World.

Kirby isn't a major franchise like Mario is. Mario is Nintendo's mascot franchises and you're trying to say it should be stuck at four reps. That's retarded. Even still, I would say that if Kirby were to ever get another rep, it'd be Bandana Dee. And Rosalina has spinoff appearances too.

>In arcades and with that one GCN game, but that's it.

And other games too. Pretty sure Pac-Man museum is on the 3DS, and whether we like it or not, the games with the new Pac-Man are on the Wii U and I believe the 3DS as well.
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>>251519256
I hope you aren't implying the Mario Land games aren't core Mario games.

You're right about Waluigi though.
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>>251519390
Mallow was cute
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>>251493440
>Sakurai fucks up the starfox representation by adding Falco before Wolf in Melee
>now people will say "too many starfox reps" or "falco is a vet and won't be cut" even though he's just a flashier fox semi clone
>Falco returns and has custom special moves similar to fox because their isn't anything else he can do other than kick his reflector

Seriously fuck Falco. I just want my chubby frog mercenary.
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>>251519268
isn't project giant robot? rumored to be custom robo?
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>>251519012
>You need to like much more mainstream shit, anon.
To be fair, Densetsu no Stafy is mainstream as Kirby in Japan; not in the west. It's touted as one of the best handheld nintendo platformers tied with fucking Kirby

The series even got an official composition/theme from a famous pop singer

And the team that makes the series does ghost programming for all of Nintendo's other titles
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>>251506338
>more headware
They could have him in Raichu cosplay
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>>251519519
They showed Project Giant Robot, it's a mech battling game.
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>>251519667
oh.
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>>251519519
Project Giant Robo was literally a ripoff of Sumotori dreams by Shigeru Miyamoto

It is literally shovel ware
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>>251519775
It wouldn't be Custom Robo anyway, lorewise the robots are like a foot tall, tops.
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>>251519569
>>251519569
>Raichu tail bolt taped to his tail and Raichu ear band
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