We need to go back

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>>246277956

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Stop it, OP.

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>>246278078

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>>246278254

>>246278162
No, we must always remember what was once great.

I recently found my Brady Games guide for WoW.

I never used it but so much nostalgia just looking at the maps

>>246277956
Man... dat box.
Dat manual.
They just don't make it like that nowadays.

HE'S GONNA TAKE YOU BACK TO THE PAST

>>246277956
>>246278078
>>246278254
>>246278352
AWWW SHIT

I still have my WoW boxes. I remember buying the game and getting hyped reading the previews before playing the game.

>>246278430
I think I have mine as well lying in tatters somewhere, was that the one with the Penny Arcade comics in it?

>>246278078

>In combat with the character tab open

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>>246277956
>tfw IF is dead
>tfw MMO's are dead

Hold me /v/
If camelot unchained or shroud of the avatar ends up being shit i don't know what to do.

WoW was never good
No MMO was ever good, they're all shit

>>246279920

>not wanting to get the exact numbers on what those buffs and procs give

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>>246280191

>Renting a game and spending 1000$+ to play it for a year

You all deserve getting fucked in the ass by the likes of Blizzard

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>>246280298
>>246280191

You'd need that device from Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.

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Who won?

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>>246280397
Getting all the new ranks on spells in aq20

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>>246280391
>he didnt play WoW when it was new and way ahead of its time

>No talent trees
>You learn spells automatically
WHY

>>246280391
What?

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>>246280546
>Don't go AFK guys

>>246280606

Is this for real?

>>246280606
I think the MoP talent system is better, simply because it actually allows you to change talents to accommodate boss fights.
That said, getting 1 talent every 15 levels is complete bullshit.

>>246280650
>Imba
When did that word die? I see anyone using it anymore.

>>246280650

>3 different health/mana potion

What's the point? I think they share the same CD.

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Can we also bring back this please?

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obligatory

I don't even play the fucking game and I feel nostalgic. I remember just always reading the box in a store.

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>>246280650
Rerolled warrior in a friends guild.

>lvl60 dwarf female dps warrior was so cash!

fuck you blizzard for adding pay for race change and all that shit.

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Why did you have to remind me?

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>>246280650
>you will never experience again for the first time being in a 40 man raid with your guild and stomping everyone that comes in your path as you head to the raid site

WoW should be free now, then it would be good again.

>>246280774
Oh shit, I totally forgot about that word. Damn

>>246280935
you're dumb if you actually believe that

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>>246280883
>Courtny
Why does that name seem so familiar?

>>246280774

It died when people replaced it with epic.

>>246280850
It really wasn't that far but it felt like a fucking Hobbiton to Mount Doom tier adventure. Especially if you got lost.

>>246278254
I don't remember that red dragon in stranglethorn, was that in the final game?

>>246280850
>not just getting yourself killed
>not doing the run in ghost mode
>not rezzing yourself at the menethil harbor

so many people didnt know about this until they fixed it

>>246280821
Major Mana potions cost a lot more than the supeier and greater ones.

Keep in mind that consumables were expensive. So using a greater mana potion > a major mana potion saved you a few gold when gold really mattered

>>246280985
he's right. If they make it f2p and manage to not completely ruin it with p2win I'd play again

>>246280774
I still use it.

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I hope corecraft fills the void.

Deep down I know it wont, but I'm still sorta hyped.

>>246280739

It is.

Auto-learn all abilities, no ability upgrading, and class-trainers are just respec-vendors now.

Life is suffering.

>>246280580
The problem is that it never was. A lot of people don't realize that World of Warcraft came out in 2004, which was late as fuck in comparison to a lot of other things. It's the same year as fucking Half-Life 2.

There had been several MMOs already out by then that blew WoW out of the water. Planetside was past its first anniversary, Ragnarok Online was going through its third year, Runescape was the most popular browser game, Everquest had been out for half a fucking decade, and even fucking Eve Online had been released the year prior.

But WoW was made by BLIZZARD, so it didn't fucking matter that it was outdated, was three years behind in terms of graphics, had a comparatively empty amusement park world, and had some of the most basic and boring gameplay in the form of constant fetch and deliver quests. It had that Warcraft name, so it had to be good, right?

It was everyone's first MMO because it was one of the first AAA MMOs. People who were introduced to MMOs through WoW are no different from the people introduced to FPSs by Modern Warfare or RPGs by Skyrim.

>>246280191

>3.8 FPS

ahh memories of 40 man raiding

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>>246280821
They do but sometimes AH had a lack of the big manapotions. Most are from boosting ppl and after that asking if i could get the mana poitions they found on the runs.
>>246280883
gearing some pala and getting ready for lvling (a week for so before TBC came out)

>>246280774

replaced with OP, as in Overpowered

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>>246280986
Played on silvermoon EU on that character but i mainly just Raidloged on her
>>246281330

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>>246278254

>Dragon raids

>>246281265
No
WoW was the most popular because it was the best, plain & simple

Tigole & others left Everquest because of how shitty it was getting & vowed to make a better MMO, then went to work on WoW

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>Vanilla WoW

Fuck man, those were the days.

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>>246281447

>>246281027
>denying yourself an adventure

>>246281447
>Silvermoon EU
Whoah, I still play there, I'm unsubbed now but waiting for WoD.

>>246281451
I just explained how it wasn't the best.

People only liked it because
>They had never played an MMO before
>Blizzard's advertising and popularity made it easy to get in to
>It used the Warcraft name
And that's fucking it. Like I said, it had the exact effect on the genre as Modern Warfare. Was MW good? God no, but its sales were through the roof because it was babby's first FPS and since the target audience couldn't recognize a good FPS if it was presented to them, they ate that shit up.

Had even HALF of WoW's initial population played any other MMO, they would have dropped it after the trial period, no questions asked.

The original login screen music is my favorite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhJeP1BT2JA

Shall we have a video thread?

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>>246281486
Is that Krol blade?

>i lost 90% of my screenshots
I was thinking of buying WoD but i bet its going to be shit... last expansion i played was Wotlk and they went full pants on head.
>pvp was alright i guess

>>246281486
>that guild chat
WoW was never good

>>246281596

oh gosh this, because you knew you should stay on the path, but dayum i think i saw some dinosaurs over there and those aligator things might be guarding treasure in the swaps, on wait, is that sunken ships?!

I want to feel those new WoW feelings again

>>246281670
>played Ultima
>played DaoC
>played lineage 2
>WoW was better than every single one of them, albeit less deep gameplay-wise
Fuck off retard

The main reason wow and gaming was better was that the industry wasnt completely set on money and people werent the kind of idiots they are today

Myspace was the closest normalfags used, youtube was new to the game, 4chan was about lolis and reddit didnt exist

People/Society as a whole have changed a lot in the last 10 years and its one of the main reason games suck especially MMOs.

The thing that made or broke MMOs were the community

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>>246281742
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV_hX25_8m0

>>246281670
>used the Warcraft name

Not him, but I just want to point out that the name "Warcraft" didn't carry THAT much respect back before WoW.

A good few 'nerds' and 'gamers' played WC3, but the absolute majority had never touched WC2 or 1, for that matter.

I'm just saying, that Blizzard made WoW for those who liked Warcraft. It wasn't something they just slapped on for brand recognition.

>>246281828
>I played all of three MMOs before WoW and didn't like them
That's nice.

>>246281738
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BP90t0ehfk

TBC pre patch was such an exciting time

>>246281738
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oju6cjG3vJM

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>>246281601
Mainly played on Mazrigos EU in vanilla and TBC

>>246281831
>community

Which is something developers seem to be going out of there way to be rid of now.

LFR, auto-guild-invites etc etc...

>>246281742
No, its some other weapon that I picked up during a raid, don't remember what is was though.

>>246281968
And thats why their games suck and we dont see any sandbox type mmos on the horizon

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>>246281968
>mfw blizzard thought phasing was a good idea
>for a fucking mmo

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>I never played WoW when it was it's peak
>Nothing was stopping me from doing it
>Missed all those amazing experiences I could have felt

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man, I was 12 when this game came out. Now I'm 22. It's weird how quick time goes by but at least we will always have memories

>always get wow urges during early summer
>WOD releases in fall 2014

Maybe for the best i doubt it will scratch my itch and only make me disappointed.

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Remember when WoW used to have weather cycles?
Remember when WoW used to run like shit on everyones PC?
Remember the journey as a Night Elf to get from Darnassus to Darkshore and then taking the boat to Wetlands to make the long journey from there to Loch Modan and then finally to Iron Forge?
Remember when your first mount required you to be level 40?
Remember when you had to physically go to the Battlemaster locations to queue for a Battleground?
Remember when DKP was actually a real thing?

Those were the days.

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>>246281961
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci3vO-YfmmE

>Guuurl gamers
>paladin shit never drops

>>246281885
>reading comprehension
I loved them all, WoW was better

>>246282126
>Remember when WoW used to have weather cycles?

Remember when wow had a night? They still havent fixed that shit

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>>246282053

It was a great idea at the time (same with badge vendors) but overused and split the community apart so much it's practically irreversible.

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It's still good guys, I swear

>>246282126
>DKP
>those were the days
YOU FUCKING WHOT M8

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what happened to emerald dream... I miss it

>>246282061

Did you conveniently forget about how demanding WoW was?

>>246282214
Always a fucking panda.

>>246281738
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgIBynOwVMI

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when you see it.

>>246282268
That's a dorf female you blind nigger

>>246282126
Fuck, I remember when you had to grind like crazy in order to afford endgame stuff like an epic mount.

I remember getting a 500g loan from someone whom I met in the game.

I paid it back shortly before I quit. Four expansions later.

I don't think he played anymore at the time...

;_;

>>246282268
That's a dwarf you idiot

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>>246282148
fucking Gaidin ninjalooted, warriors was pretty pissed that they missed out on deathbringer

and mages was so pissed that they lost t2 helm

>first time we tryed Free for all in the guild raids

Mom help, /v/'s making me feel again.


;_;

>>246282243
>Feenix server
That server was a giant shithole with a horrible staff.

>>246282236

Nigga, My guild back in Cata days had DKP, Its not gone man

>>246281862
This, WC was Blizz's least popular franchise, Diablo & SC were 10x more popular before WoW came along

In fact Blizzard wanted to make Diablo the MMO because it was the much bigger name, but Blizz North wanted to do their own thing with Diablo 3 so they made WoW the MMO instead

>>246282249
I remember getting 8-15 fps playing the game and thinking it was normal.

>>246282330
Fuck you, interest on that is up to 50k gold now, pay up.

>>246282349
Should've seen that coming

>>246282243

thats..depressing

remember getting killed by the highwayman in runescape?

>>246282391
The point is DKPs suck balls and fuck whoever thinks they're a good thing

>>246282249

Yes. I'm usually good with games that require huge amount of time to truly enjoy. Money could've been problem at that age, but whatever. I can still see how much fun I would've had.

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>>246282126
>>246282236
>tfw Paladin gets bindings over the 3rds tank and rogues due to highest DKP

>>246282214

>Hierlooms

Kill yourself

>>246282349
>FFA in a raid
>any raid

>Playing on Emerald Dream 1.2.1 server
>Buff a level 6 guy in an inn
>Minute later get an invite to his guild
>Accept
>For the next three hours go on a questing spree with two other guys after asking in g chat
>Have so much more fun than I ever did in retail
It was true then and it's still true now, vanilla WoW was the only real Warcraft MMO experience

>>246282330
I remember in Burning Crusade, I asked a few guild mates for loans so I can purchase my regular flying mount.

It took me like 2 years to repay them back, I never bothered to get my epic flying mount (5000 fucking gold) until Cata came out when the economy on my realm was booming.

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name this place

>>246282243
They realized the server wasn't going to get significant updates so they switched somewhere else. Or are waiting for a new one.

I wish that you could use WoW experience in an actual Resume.

I remember having to read dozens of applications before recruiting new members, and all of the shit that we asked from them in order to even be considered for a spot.

>Please submit a screenshot of your keybinds
>Please list all of your WoW raiding experience
>Please submit a link of your armory
>Please tell us about yourself
>Please tell us why you are interested in our guild

>>246280606
Learning spells automatically makes sense since it's your character learning them through experience, rather than someone holding their hands and boom, they suddenly know it.

>>246282578
Mulgore. Wheathoof.

>>246281885
>he lists three well loved, popular MMOs, most with unique features that set them apart from the legions of straight EQ clones stagnating the market at the time
>snarky comment

I personally played Ragnarok Online (2D korean grinding game that at the time of WoW's release boiled down to "Get a group of friends, camp a MVP spawn and grind for cards until your acolyte/mage telebitch calls a sight"), Ultima (fun, but dated), EQ (so fucking dated, raiding was dead unless you were part of a well established group and were willing to put in the time commitment), DaoC (Fun, but died ignobly), Lineage (Korean grindan gaem) and a couple others that are escaping me at the moment. In my defense, it's been a fucking decade.

>>246280845
swgemu

>>246282460
No but I remember dying at the scorpion pit and luring new players there

>>246282601
Man fuck that, guilds that require you to fill out a fucking CV are the worst and deserve all the wipes they get.

>>246282515
DKP without moderation is awful. Why would someone use that system? I've seen people spend all their DKP just to disenchant something in front of new raiders, just to be a bitch.

>>246282243
>lvl 1-44
Everything i loved about vanilla. Felt like an epic adventure from stomewatch to stromguard to helping a warrior friend get their whirlwind axe

>lvl45 -60

Run out of quests, less people to have an epic adventure with, make a tonne of dungeon groups.

Suddenly i'm raiding for the first time and i've been playing since 06, turns out a love raiding but the vanilla raid mechanics after around 5 months finally get too boring.

Raiding in MoP atm doing heroic progression. Honestly the only thing MoP has > vanilla is the raiding. But those first 45 levels made me seriously feel like i was reliving the days

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>>246282431
I did, Guild leader did not

> Its just onyxia

10man strat baron

>>246282601

Why.....

That shit is borderline autistic

>>246280850

The first time I played I wanted to get to IF but didn't know how so I went to Menethil and swam all the way down to Westfall ran to Stormwind and got on the Deeprun Tram.

The best loot system is having someone responsible and trusted as Master Looter

>>246281738
I recognize that video title.

>Open it up
>Frost Shock all over the screen

My sides were not prepared.

>>246282126
Everything was great, but fuck DKP.
That system was designed to fuck over new raiders and influenced circlejerks between guildmates who had higher DKP than others.

>>246282562
I learned early that you had to grind a profession ASAP as soon as the next expansion comes out if you wanted to be rich.

So I powerleveled my tailoring during the start of each expansion, spending all of my gold in order to max it out.

Once I start making the high-level threads, I make my gold back in 2-3 sales, plus I end up profiting in the long run due to all of the raiding guilds that need my threads.

I probably made around 200k during Cata using this process, and I quit the game before 4.1 came out.

>>246281203
You likely know too much about BC for it to really be fun again. You've already run Karazhan a dozen times, and while that first run on Corecraft might be great, the subsequent runs will just be a bore. That feeling that the community got as a whole, of just being sick of the content, just before the next expansion will come right back.

>>246282601
>used to submit false applications to guilds and put in WoW UI images that would flash to gay porn after 3 seconds
Never gets old. It's the best when you're in the guild and the leader thinks someone else is doing it.

>>246279667
TO PLAY THE SHITTY GAMES THAT SUCK ASS

>>246282802
>>246282707
Raiding guilds, son. Why should we spend our time training a newbie when we're trying to be the best in the realm?

>>246282578
Where's Bellygrub?

But holy shit, the amount of questing maymays and references is terrible now

>>246282243
We bailed.
GMs are shit, we lost so much fucking loot due to server crashes and other things.
People joined, took loot and left. We literally didn't have the power to keep going after the 1.000.000 MC run with the same fucking warlock loot and warrior loot drop YET AGAIN.

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>classic enchanting

Oh gods i don't know why i loved it so much and spent time dragging the guild about grinding for the rarer enchants.

>mfw looking at newer enchantments

It's not just my nostalgia goggles is it? but crafting junk was more fun in vanilla and BC?

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>>246282601
I think i still got some of my applications on my computer somewhere 2-3 pages

>>246282617
Makes sense for combat techniques, doesn't make sense for spells. Your really expect some random adventurer to re-invent spells that took an entire society of mages years to come up with?

>>246282530
WOW LEVELING IS SO MUCH FUN ON THE TWENTIETH TIME. I WISH I KNEW HOW TO MAKE IT TAKE LONGER.

>>246282617
>somehow learning to make frostbolts from killing monsters with fireballs or even just your staff makes more sense than being taught by a seasoned mage

>>246282971
I only got enchanting because I was too lazy to get a proper profession. It was great knowing that you could disenchant endgame gear even if your skill is 10

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ALLIANCE! LET US HERE YOUR BATTLE CRY!

>>246282601
**PERSONAL**


Character Info:

Name: Intych
Class: Priest
Server: Sylvanas
Armory link:
Please insert a link to a screenshot of your UI:

How long have you been playing? Since last january ( 1 year 2 monhts )

Do you have any other lvl 70 Characters? Soon prot paladin (67 atm)

Do you click your abilities? yes?

Do you turn with keys? y..

General Info:

What is your age? 18

Where are you from? Norway

Do you have Down's Syndrome? rofl no

Do you have a working microphone? Nah, going to buy one.

Can you take abuse/criticism? yeh

Do you make drama over dkp, loot, whatever? no

Are you willing to respec when asked? Yuh, if i got gear:)

Are you willing to learn new things to improve your overall quality of play? Yeh


**RAIDING**


Can you make these raid days?
Monday: 19:00 - 00:00
Yeh
Tuesday: 19:00 - 00:00
Yeh
Wednesday: 19:00 - 00:00
Yeh
Thursday: 19:00 - 00:00
Yeh
Sunday: 19:00 - 00:00
Yeh
Can you maintain a raid attendance of at least 70%?

Can you be relied upon to attend raids with consumables?

What is your previous raid experience?
Karazhan, ZG


**MORE QUESTIONS**


Why do you want to join the guild?
Cos i need a good guild
What do you want from the guild?
Raidssssss
Why should we let you join?
Cos im a Shadow priest ^-^ Hmm ..
What is your opinion on women being allowed to vote? :P
**PERSONAL**


:idea: :twisted: :shock: :D

>>246282971
It's nostalgia friend.
Because you forgot all those recipes that used the fish oils and fishing was god damn awful.

>>246277956
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g88zUR9YBhI

>>246282601
You can, just word it right, something like "Experience in recruiting and identifying suitable candidates" then explain it if it comes up.

>>246282548
We've been running FFA for five years without a single ninja. World top 20 does help though.

>>246282617
Bullshit, athletes wouldn't need trainers if this were true.

>>246281119
>level 30ish
>exploring Kalimdor areas that were out of my level range
>die
>lost as fuck
>figure I'll just walk to Barrens graveyard and rez there
>accept ressurection
>character still rezzes in fucking Silithus

Fuck that gay ass shit

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>corpse camping as a rogue before flying mounts were a thing
>getting people mad enough to call for help
>that thrill of running away from a group of players chasing you and mashing the stealth button waiting for combat to drop
>watching them run around trying to find you

>>246282243
Most people left and are going to Rebirth after the feenix staff fucked the server.

>>246282971
Crafting was neutered in the new expansions. Anything before the last 10 skill points are there only for skillups, and then even those last 10 are just for pre-heroic gearing.

>>246282858
Yeah, I leveled up skinning and made a damn killing from selling the leather obtained from the mobs in Cata. There used to be this one mob spot in the Maelstrom or whatever (I forgot the name of the zone), they used to spawn frequently in packs and were an easy source of gold until Blizzard patched them so you can't skin them anymore.

I purchased my epic flyer, 320% speed training, and a whole host of other things from the Skinning gold alone. Just remembering shit like this makes me want to resub, but I don't want to take another dose of heroin known as WoW.

>>246283248
I bet you were Undead too, just to reach the pinnacle of faggotry

I played on a vanilla server that was 1:1 with the original vanilla just after the Naxxramas patch.

They had to increase the health of the bosses a lot pretty soon because good groups steamrolled Naxxramas.

Face it, everyone was shit in vanilla.

>first time playing in Vanilla
>make a Night Elf Druid because the druids were badass in WC3
>friend makes a human mage
>we want to quest together
>swim all the way to Darkshore and then walk all the fucking way to Azshara because I thought the ship that sails to Stormwind was there
>some guy tells me the ship's in Teldrassil
>FUCK
>didn't know about hearthstones so walk all the fucking way back to Darkshore
>finally get on the boat
>arrive at destination
>wow, Stormwind's a lot smaller than I thought
>open the map
>it's not fucking Stormwind
>delete char and start a paladin

>>246280546

>New ranks of spells
>Continue to use the old ones

Nah man, I liked my mana bar, who the fuck used new ranks?

>>246283412
>realize paladin is hybrid healer buff monkey
>kill self
Added the ending for you

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>tfw watching old pvp videos

>>246283515
DPS?

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>>246282601
Yeah, with the amount of applications you get and with most of them being bad, you need ways to filter them.

>>246283590

No one with a mana bar did.

>>246283565
>240p quality
>linken park or breaking benjamin music
>most likely an undead or human character
>SCREEN QUAKE EVERYTIME A CRIT HAPPENS

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:(

Remember when it wasn't unusal for the DPS to overaggro the tank on SINGLE npcs?
Too bad Blizzard removed it because it was too hard for the DPS niggers to not rolltheir fucking heads on the fucking keyboard and make their epeen grow

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>Downranking all my healing spells
>Have four different ranks of one spell on my bars for different situation
>Have to conserve mana like fuck

>>246283342
>1:1 with vanilla
>everyone steamrolled naxxramas

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>246283095
Battlecry?

>>246283590
On some fights it was a smart move to downrank one or two levels to maintain your manapool, especially in longer fights or fights with a specific mechanic (Viscidus).

Healers were the ones who really downranked hardcore though, especially since throughput didn't increase linearly with mana costs. It was more efficient to have three ranks of Renew, and two of Heal on your bars, instead of spamming max rank Renew and Heal.

>>246283632
>>246282601
>treating a game like a job
There's a special place in hell for faggots like you

>>246282278
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl0VWJdE01M

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>>246283632
>Some of the officers were really good friends with whom I played regularly.
>No need to bother with applications.

>>246283776
No one forced you to apply to those guilds

>AFKing in a raid with Aspect of the Pack on

They get so angry.

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>>246283565

>tfw watching old pvp videos

>>246283683
>warlock crits were guaranteed deaths

Fun times indeed.

>>246283853
I will force my dick up your ass you gay nigger shit

>>246283632
And the funny thing is that you still mainly recruit by poaching or by someone from another good guild going "hey got space for x?"

>proudmoore opens up transfers to Dragonblight to alleviate some of it's massive queues
>take the opportunity and bail
>do Warsong repeatedly on this new server
>pug in with a premade of the top guild in my faction on the server
>beat the shit out of the enemy warlock
>they are amazed because he was supposedly untouchable
>offer me a spot in the guild
>embrace the world of vanilla raiding
>discover to my chagrin that vanilla raiding as a warlock consisted of "Summon us, Make us healthstones, put up Elements for the Mages and try not to be a burden"
At least my time to shine came at Sunwell, god did I savor that.

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>Using trade chat or LFG chat to look for groups
>During a time when realms had a sense of community instead of this Dungeon Finder/Cross Battlegroup crap now

What's a good and populated Burning Crusade private server these days?

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RIP warcraft

>>246283776
Hey, if I'm recruiting other warlocks, then I have to make sure that they're as good a player as I am, otherwise it looks bad on my part.

>>246283776
I probably play less than most casual people. That is because we hold ourselves to higher standards and want to be efficient. That's fucked if you recruit just anyone.

>>246282802
>>246282601

What >>246282949 said, you coming along to our heroic prog guild? Then you better fucking know your shit.

>>246283793
>not linking the Demon Hunter vs A'dal video

It's like you really hate fun.

>>246278254
>that demon hunter looking night elf
>my dissappointment when I made a Night Elf Hunter because I wanted to be Illidan

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>>246283943
So lonely.

Was fun playing on <the vidya> while I could. I want to join again whenever corecraft starts up but I'll have no time with working everyday

>>246283960
>recruit a warlock
>he's too good
>he replaces you

>>246283342
>1:1 with the original vanilla

I call bullshit.

>>246283683
Is it even possible to pull aggro anymore?

>>246283942
Hellgrounds, just have to deal with polish people

I hate it how in wotlk you had to really try to run out of mana as a healer
Shit was ridiculous

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>Not the best event

>Purposefully failing the Undercity WoW Lore quest so your raid group could attack your own Faction Leaders.

I believe we were the first guild to ever kill all of their own faction leaders. Butthurt Thrall lovers were crying so hard in General chat and no one could do anything about it.

>>246284028

Given that we only need to be in the same faction in WoD, why don't we all raid together again?

All that's left is... What faction?

>>246284072
It's difficult, and if you do, it's probably the fault of the Tank.

Threat generation is such a fucking joke, especially with Vengeance.

remember when Blizzard still used to make good manuals full of interesting information? D2, WoW, WC3

fuck man. now i open the box and theres like 1 page that says "put the disk in you idiot"

this depresses me more than anything

>>246284072
As someone who plays MoP: not really.
A tank in blues does more threat than a DPS in BiS gear

>>246283683
Well Taunt functioned differently then too if I remember.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Taunt in Vanilla just cause a certain amount of threat, like sunder or other abilities. So the mob could get pulled off and the tank could taunt all god damn day to no avail.

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So what happened to the Rebirth private server guild?

>>246284072

Trash/LFR, yes. Single target boss? Not a fucking chance.

>>246284041
Could happen.

It never has happened, but it could.

Although, when I was playing, there were only two other warlocks that were better than me. One was in the top raiding guild, and one ended up switching to a druid as his main.

>>246283253
>Most people left and are going to Rebirth after the feenix staff fucked the server.

I really, really wish more people played on Rebirth. It's kinda what kills private 1x servers - lack of population to do anything.

>>246283927
>beat the shit out of the enemy warlock
>they are amazed because he was supposedly untouchable
Whut warlocks with t2-t3 got soloed by rogue without gear. Prolly the worst class with druid in vanilla.

>>246284137
I meant <the vidya> on the feenix server Emerald Dream

>>246282949
>we're trying to be the best in the realm
From what I saw from my raiding career from patch 1.4 to 3.2, the guilds which really were 'the best in the realm' would operate purely on inside or esteemed recommendations. The ones which required lengthy ass posts on their guildlaunch or filling out surveys were the guilds that were perpetual MC into AQ20 guilds that would just feed higher attuned players to better guilds, then later perpetual Kara+ZA attempt guilds that would do the same.
I know this because I tried to run one when ZA came out, and killed it 4 months later when I realized we'd never reach 3 chest because geared players went up and I was on a perpetual recruiting bender.

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>mfw getting the shakes and urge to go back to WoW

I think race model update will be the breaking the point, if only for 15 day returnee trial.

>>246284151
You know what I remember?

Cracking open the fucking MASSIVE book included in Diablo, with all the Samwise artwork splashed throughout it.

I also just realized one of my first masturbatory experiences was over his Rogue concept piece.

>>246284340
It's going to be shit
The models are literally 15-20 hours of work(at max) each and it takes them a whole year to release them all.

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Can remember our server suffering from serious lag issues so we couldn't do onyxia. We all decided to raid Ironforge instead, we couldn't get out of the tram station though because the alliance knew well in advance we were coming and just camped us outside the entrance.

>>246284191

it would bring you up the threat level of the highest guy. but if they kept going, they would pull threat very quickly

it could also miss. 5% or something like that

Remember when classes had unique abilities

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>>246280298

I solo'd that quest at 18. I was so proud, I enchanted it and kept it in my bank as a momento. I started wow in 2005 and quit in early '10 shortly after beating the Lich King.

>40 man raid
>enemies only have 16 debuff slots
>any new debuff that got applied bumped off an old one
>every warrior had that god damn bleed talent
>every druid threw in a moonfire
>every rogue was poisoning them
>every mage was applying that frost debuff
It's amazing anything was accomplished when half your shit was rendered useless in a manner of seconds by another asshole.

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>>246282278

>that guy hiding on the left

>>246282824
>Deeprun Tram.

Nostalgia Bomb

I forgot this existed.

>>246283965
You're paying money to engage in menial labor at that point. That's insane.

You know, in other activities outside of MMORPGs, the people who graduate from amateur to professional are actually paid.
That doesn't happen here, why do it?

why did Blizz take the fun out? Fucking hell it reminds me of Australia
>all mobs including world bosses are leashed and can't be kited

>>246280298
>dat feel when Verigan's Fist was a tremendous weapon upgrade for Paladins at the time

Nowadays you would probably replace it 15 minutes later because gear and experience and give to you at every step.

>>246282601
fuck u

guilds like these were what made raiding hard to get into

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I can never go back to WoW anons

>take a break for a good while
>come back for Wrath
>it was meh at best
>make a warlock on a completely different server than what I use to
>meet this chick who helps me when im just starting with my low level ass
>she's kind of cool
>start hanging out with her
>end up hanging out with her boyfriend on their as well
>don't really care since I wasn't looking for a grill and he turned out relatively bro-tier
>her boyfriend talks about starting a guild
>whythefucknot.jpg
>we joke its probably not going to succeed in the ocean of guilds already
>fuck it we do it and get surprised
>get members
>get enough members where we can even start doing raids
>even end up having on those cheap dinky sites as guild recruit tool as well
>im made co-founder and tantamount officer when bro-tier leader wasn't their
>first time in years I start to have fun
>one of the members we invite starts to get really friendly with the the leader and his grill
>I never liked this guy and made it known
>wanted to kick him but leader won't let me
>got to the point all they wanted to do was hang out with him
>feel a crushing lonliness and anger towards this anon that came out of fucking nowhere taking my friends
>one day I log in and he's officer with same power as me
>I leave the guild and never join another guild
>can find no reason to keep playing
>unsubscribe and uninstall

Theirs even more I could go into anons but im sure your not interested. I was very very bitter in those days. Im glad im like that no longer.

>>246284531

you forgot
>every warlock crying about their corruption falling off

i was a faggot hunter and would serpent sting everytime just to spite those pricks

got kicked out of the guild a few weeks later. fuck them

>>246284531
>"I swear to god, someone with CT better tell me which fucking priest is putting up that Holy Fire/SWP on the fucking boss or I will kick all the fucking priests"

It was me. He could have just check KTL or Recount.

>>246284630
git gud

>>246284583
>You're paying money to engage in menial labor at that point
I paid money to play the game, and I loved raiding

>>246284679
You sound like the faggot

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>>246283342
>enhance shaman with blues, and some pieces of the hunter dungeon set
>doing some quests in silithus as usual
>see T3 gnome rogue just chilling on some crystals
>cautiously try to run past him
>he runs at me once he thinks I'm not looking because my back is turned
>manage to frost shock him before he enters stealth
>keep spamming frost shock while kiting him
>tfw a shitty blue geared shaman killed a T3 rogue

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>>246282601
>dat feel when being a raid leader in vanilla

It was like trying to herd cats.

>>246284254
He had his own pocket rogue. That's why he was considered untouchable at the time. I had the fortune of dotting him up repeatedly from the roof of his base while he was on D.

>>246281153
I'd want to say that I'd try it if it went free to play.
But if I couldn't get through the free 20 levels, how could I ever reach the end game of 90 or whatever it currently is.

>>246284652
>Have a good thing going
>Some faggot comes and ruins it
Every time

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHgRAlkpxJw
>I non-ironically enjoyed this
fucking kill me

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Come join us on Emerald Dream

>>246284765
>tfw you meet a great guy all the way in Vanilla
>he was always the leader and you were his right hand
>stops playing after the Cata nerfs because it's bullshit
>keep playing becuase I'm a fucking faggot
>host my first raid
>realize I'm a pussy and don't have the balls to kick low dps/people who didn't listen etc
I wish I weren't such a wuss

>>246284908
>full
What's the cap, 100 people?

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>>246284876
tell me about it anon
>acted like a total douchenozzle
>never in front of my friends of course
>even when I showed them on a screencap him talking shit about me in guildchat they still didn't believe it

in the end fuck it im glad im done with that noise.

>>246284908
>>246285012
Feenix has almost perfected Mol10's fake queue system to make it seem that their server is always full.

>>246282126
>Weather cycles
What? I played in Vanilla, I don't remember this

>>246284238
>It's kinda what kills private 1x servers - lack of population to do anything.

because they obviously don't have anything near the capacity of official servers

>>246284652
I'd feel sorry for you but with grammar like that I can't help but feel like you probably brought this on yourself. I wouldn't want to keep a guy around either if he couldn't tell the difference between "their" and "there".

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>>246280489

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>>246284652
i'm interested, post more

>>246284908
Fuck off feeshill

>>246285069
Really?
Because I could log in to it no problem like 10 mins ago and last night

>>246284765
I miss 40 mans, if only because it created a sense of community within the larger whole of the raid group.

You knew who your team was, and by fucking god, you had either a role or class officer and you own chat channel you used during raids, so you didn't fill up /ra.

>you will never talk shit about the tanks with the other six healers in your /join guildnamehealers, and never talk shit about the decurse team in /join guildnamedispel

Or was my guild the only one anal retentive enough to do that?

>>246282126
>Remember when your first mount required you to be level 40?

And it was 90G or something? There was no way you would have actually acquired enough to pay for training and mount the moment you reached lvl 40. Well, not unless you played the AH with Swiftthistle and were drowning in money by lvl 25.

>>246284714
correct. but seriously, fuck those wankers

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>>246284885
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4TyqYsC26g

>>246284713
I've always been under the impression that people played video games because it's an effortless distraction. I know I do.

But paying for the 'privilege' of optimizing spreadsheets and reading résumés for something ultimately transient and completely useless in reality just seems a little bit mental.

>>246285339
People play video games because they enjoy it, just like any hobby

>>246285339
Jesus Christ you sound just like Stephen Merchant

I can imagine him saying something just like that

And then Karl comes in like "yeah but it's fun"

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>>246277956
They really can't leave things alone, can they?

>tfw first time seeing a mage use blink
I fell in love.

>>246284583
I make about $2000 annually by selling in-game (non-sexual) services. I could make $5000 if I dedicated more of my free time.

>>246285436
And then Ricky shits himself laughing because he laughs at literally anything Karl says.

>>246285184

nah m8. the guys i used to pvp with had our own chat channel for raids. we'd spend the whole time abusing the rest of raid in that channel

honestly, it wasn't as bad it sounded. gave us an outlet for our frustrations without having to kill the moral of the raid

good times

>>246278254
The first time I thought the Shredder boss in Deadmines was the first time I felt 'Holy shit fuck yes Im a bad ass' in WoW

>>246285473
Not to mention that I think it's fun and I love to challenge myself.

>>246282126
>Remember when WoW used to have weather cycles?
doesn't it still?

>Remember when WoW used to run like shit on everyones PC?
still does.

>Remember the journey as a Night Elf to get from Darnassus to Darkshore and then taking the boat to Wetlands to make the long journey from there to Loch Modan and then finally to Iron Forge?
yeah, but why would you?

>Remember when your first mount required you to be level 40?
this should still be the thing.

>Remember when you had to physically go to the Battlemaster locations to queue for a Battleground?
yeah. maybe this should come back.

>Remember when DKP was actually a real thing?
yep. it's a good system. as long as you don't want any loot.

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>aspire to lead brave raiders into the great unknowns
>through dedication eventually become an officer and raid leader
>learn the horrors
>"I'm having problems with X person, can we talk?"
>"Can I be paired up with her for this fight? She's the best healer"
>The backseat driver
>the smartass always undermining shit to make quips
etc..

Responsibility is a terrible burden and the more you try to impose some order and structure the more ostracized you become. I loved to raid, but god did I grow to hate the people. It was probably just me and my temperment, I'm sure others are more people-friendly.

>>246285537
To be honest though, and I don't know what it is, but there's something about Karl that I can't help but crack up about either.

I can't tell if it's an act or if he's genuinely like that

>>246285119
>almost*
They just lower the cap citing 'server limitations' and saying that it's a genuine charity to people that they continue to allow 'SO MANY' people to play on such a mediocre and understaffed server.

Mol10 does full false account stacking and timedown queues that always move your position forward at the same speed.

>>246284449
>Spend a thousand years updating player models
>They still have severe clipping issues, even though they've taken so long
>Muh quality control
sadfrog.jpg

>>246285572
What do they use instead of DKP now?

Is it all tokens? I quit during wrath.

>>246282126
>Remember when your first mount required you to be level 40?
oh god i rember, for my birthday a friend that i played with gave me half the gold towards one.
he died last year in a car acident

>>246285689

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>>246281451
>Tigole & others left Everquest because of how shitty it was getting & vowed to make a better MMO, then went to work on WoW
Tigole and Furor where responsible for every poopsock mechanic, WoW was a collective clusterfuck of poor design choices based around Tigole and Furors everquest ideology

world of warcraft to this very day still suffers from these original poor design choices

>>246285595

Haha, that's noble of you anon.

But people are just shit, true facts

>>246284652
What was his characters name?

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>>246285096
can't be helped anon sorry

>>246285110
Fuck it why not

>playing back during TBC before breaking for Wrath
>friend wants to make a new character
>insists he wants to make it on an RP server
>don't really want to but I say fuck it and we do it
>starts off pretty simple until we get to Stormwind and the RP scene
>autismintesifies.gif
>my friend is more into than me
>"anon just try it you might like it!"
>I say screw it and get invited by some basic level RP guild
>can't stand their dull RP and I leave the guild
>decide to have some fun
>go to Old Town in Storm where most of the RP guilds love doing their hugbox shit
>start interrupting their RP constantly but doing it in proper emotes or character action commands
>repeatedly spam "Throws beer glass at {insert character name}"
>do this to everyone
>get known as the guy that ruins RP's
>leaders from like four guilds tell me im blacklisted from ever joining
>like I give a fuck
>whole server essentially blacklists me

My friend also got kicked from his RP server for being associated with me. Fuck it, it was totally worth it. RP servers anons, not even once.

>>246278352
Reminder that Zeppelins, a back of the box feature, didn't work in vanilla WoW. They were replaced with teleporting NPCs until being patched in later.

>mfw games were being released with key features broken, buggy and missing since 2003
>mfw we could have stopped this
>mfw no face

>>246281382

Which is fucked up since imba only means imbalanced, so it can mean weaker than intended too.

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>>246281828
Don't argue with a master-baiter, it'll only end in suffering.

>>246281265

WoW was good because it was far more casual friendly than any MMO at the time could be, lvling to max level could be done relatively fast and the journey there had enough of new and interesting themes to keep entertaining you (dropping off in the 40-45 lvl range for a lot of classes then picking up again at the 48-58 range when dungeons like Black rock depths and black rock spire became available).

And then there was the factor that actually kept you playing: there was a big lack of typical MMO players in WoW which was an advantage more so than anything cause it forced you to get to know them through forced party quests for elites and 5 man dungeons (for which there was no dungeon finder) and this would enable you to eventually find a guild with whom you'd actually have a good time.

The social factor was a huge benefit for someone new to MMOs and paved a way for whole communities to come together to hate and love each other.

WoW was very good compared to games like Ragnarok online which was a korean grindfest. Runescape played like ass and had the depth of a 2 year old vagina.
everquest was well on its way to finally die out
and eve online was then and is still a spreadsheet fest.

Yes it was the first AAA MMO which is was incidentally made it really good cause it drew all kinds of players to it which have always been the only reason to keep playing an MMO for extended periods of time.

The only reason WoW still exists is artificial reward mechanics like daily quests and welfare epics allowing people to skip over 80% raid/farm content per expansion.

Your argument is fucking retarded though and I'm done explaining why.

>>246285919
>implying self loathingly masturbating while on Moonguard isn't worth it

I went to make fun of them, had to hide my deep shame at returning when I wanted an engaging fap afterwards.

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>>246285919
>goldshire inn on rp servers

>>246285919
>Go to an RP server
>Go to cathedral
>Use /spit
>Faggot Paladins and Priests RP'ing in there come over and chastise me

>First time in RP server
>Make level 1 char and go to SW
>Start to RP in a bar
>Think I enjoy it
>Somehow it turns into an ERP
I don't want to talk about it

>>246286010
It's because even at launch WoW was still in much better state than EQ or SWG were. Fuck, SWG carried the majority of its problems to the day it was shut down.

>>246285919
>STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE

>>246285436
>>246285426
So... it's fun as long as you pay for it, but not when you're trying to accomplish something in reality? OK, got it.

For me, this gives a little more perspective on the disconnect between publishers and the games they publish. I bet they're just as bewildered as I am as to why these kinds of games are considered 'fun'.

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post them if you got'em

>>246285919

>enter Lion's Pride Inn
>20 naked dancers
>RP

everyone has their "bring back XYZ" fantasies about wow, but it ain't gonna happen. just be glad you enjoyed vanilla wow when it was relevant. when it comes to bands, things you used to do with friends, or videogames from your favorite time period...shit won't be like that ever again, so don't ask for it, and don't look for it.

>>246280191
I backed Camelot Unchained, but I have zero faith in Jacobs after WAR.

>>246286243
Sorry what?
Are you seriously trying to compare a whimsical pastime to real life?

God fuck off

>>246283632
>make one of these
>copy paste it everywhere
Easy, just like a real CV

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>>246286253

>>246283982

Let me tell you the old legend of the mighty Morganthar.

>heroic fags would flash their shitty achieves all day long thinking they were amazing with all their keybinds and addons
> I'd have them check my proving grounds tank stats and explained I raided casually and was a clicker. I had DBM and that was it. Endless wave. Wave 48. And I lagged out on that wave.
>They'd snort their condescending rage as they'd grasp for their inhalers with meaty hands....frantically linking more achievements in an attempt to combat my prowess.

Elitists were a cancer in this game. I made a mockery of so many hardcore kids all while playing at my leisure. I pvped all the way from vanilla to cata and then raided from end of cata to MoP.

Only an incompetent scumlord needs keybinds to play. What? You have slow mouse reaction time and bad accuracy? It's like you faggots never played a PC fps at pro-tier.

The only reason I didnt just go ahead and stomach the snobby heroic guilds was there was only two with full-time tanks the whole year.

But yeah, I enjoy the Souls games better. WoW got old for me finally.

>>246286286
god thanks for reminding me about that
even worse was that many of those same guild leaders I spoke about would be tipping them. God the RP scene is weird as fuck.

>>246285919

>people are having fun doing their thing
>NOT ON MY WATCH

you sure showed them anon

>>246284539
>doesn't know left & right

>>246285919
>I was rude and hostile to people and they were jerks back, not even once anons!

>>246282243

Rebirth. I've been playing on it for a few weeks now and it's waaaay better than ED.

>>246286081
yes in comparison to other mmos it was quite lightweight, but it wasnt a casual game, it didnt suffer from the mindless repetition of a korean mmo or the autistic spreadsheet management of eve, it had some kind of actual gameplay

WoW held a strong stigma of neckbeard till mid wotlk

>>246286356
>whimsical pass-time
>spend more time reading resumes, optimizing trees, and crunching numbers than playing the game
>unemployed basement-dwelling neckbeard

Yeah.

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>>246286585
>>246286492
>>246286231
buttmad RP'ers detected

>>246286243
>So... it's fun as long as you pay for it, but not when you're trying to accomplish something in reality? OK, got it.
What the fuck are you talking about? It's a god damn video game. I'm crawling dungeons killing big ass boss monsters with a bunch of other nerds in the Warcraft universe. Sometimes I'm out in the world killing other players starting a faction war in a low level zone. That was hella fun if you ask me.

>>246284174
That's a flat out lie. The scaling this expansion is so ridiculous that a BiS DPS will outpace any tank not in epics. The scaling from heroic dungeon gear to heroic siege gear is so unbelievable.
Just compare these items
http://wowhead.com/item=81574
entry level heroics helm
http://wowhead.com/item=105457
top tier helm, on top of that itll have 4 upgrades in your scenario

It's like this EVERY expansion. If a tank is trying to get into the game at the end of an expansion they drop aggro all the time.

I have to heal everybody anyways.

>>246277956
what gaem?

>>246284205
They joined real guilds or play solo, /v/ guilds always start fun but end in drama once the shitters get attracted

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>days of the giant battles of TM/SS
>certain individuals achieved various levels of fame or reknown throughout the server over them
>one was a member of the opposing faction
>we all knew of him, we all feared him and we all respected him
>if he singled you out of the hundreds of people fighting, you were toast
>he dies in a senseless car crash two months later
>even though the server is full pvp and hates RP a service of sorts is held
>members of both factions meet at the broken tower between TM and SS, probably upwards of 200 folks on both sides
>a line for each faction forms and gradually the people at the head of it walk up to one another and turn towards the landmark
>everyone either kneels or salutes
>everyone walks away with no blood shed that afternoon

>>246286403
And just imagine how much better you would have been if you actually used keybinds and got good at them

>>246286708
>spend more time reading resumes, optimizing trees, and crunching numbers than playing the game
I wasn't an officer so I never read resumes. Optimized talent trees were figured out long ago and I didn't have to do that. Same thing with number crunching. I played the fucking game you ass.

>>246286861
Who remembers the butthurt?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHJVolaC8pw&feature=kp

>>246286861
>Serenity Now Bombs a WoW funeral

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You guys still have your first screenshot saved, right?

>>246287007
>there will never be a High Quality version of this video, even just a 720p, ever

>>246282995
Magic is just math in WoW lore.

>>246283682

damn

>>246287252
That just re-affirms what I was saying. You don't just re-invent math, you learn it from somebody else. That's the whole reason there was a city dedicated to learning magic, even Jaina had to be taught by Antonidas.

>>246287125
no ;_;