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Microsoft removes Kinect from Xbox One

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They've finally realised nobody cares.
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So, they finally even Sony's console price. But the hardware is still inferior.
I wonder if that is going to be enough to flip the table.
Still not interested on getting any of the "last" gen consoles.
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>>243395821
this is fake right? like you photoshoped it
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But does this do anything about the awful load times I keep hearing about?
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>>243397684
hardware may be inferior but microsoft has more of a premium operating system running. also you cannot forget that the cloud system set up is far better than anything sony or nintendo combined have or are even capable of having.
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>>243397748
nah it's real. They're also taking features like netflix and hulu out from behind their paywall

http://www.joystiq.com/2014/05/13/xbox-one-no-kinect/

http://www.joystiq.com/2014/05/13/microsoft-drops-xbox-live-gold-hbo-go-netflix/
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Who cares, only a nigger would buy an xbone.

It's either PS4 or Wii-U.
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>>243395821
>>243397684
ALL XBONE HAS TO DO IS UNDERCUT BY 100-200$

THAT'S ALL THEY HAD TO FUCKING DO TO WIN THE FUCKING WAR.

MICROSHIT WHAT ARE YOU FUCKING DOING. THAT'S ALL YOU HAD TO GODDAMN DO BESIDES GETTING RID OF CONSTANT ONLINE BS.
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I don't understand why people would rather buy this than a PS4.
Maybe for people with an old 'hd ready' TV?
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>>243397684
>>243397857
newsflash: both the PS4 and xbone are terrible.
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>>243397748
It's real, but the real question is: is he telling the truth?
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>>243397857
Yeah but honestly it boils down to the games. The way I see is I'm not interested in it now but the fact they're making strives to cheapen it is a good sign. Maybe in a year or two's time they will have enough exclusives that look interesting but I doubt it
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>>243395821
Fake?
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I don't really care much for the XBox either way but I do hope this sells better, much better than the one with Kinect, just so it can show most people don't want that shit. We just want to play with controllers, preferably without being recorded at all times.
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Time to save up and build a pc.
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Well they're desperate. I'm scared that this will help them enough to win in NA though which means the fucking Xbone games will again be cheaper than PS4 equivalents when price drops happen.
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But I thought Kinect was the future.
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>>243398426
Nah THE CLOUD is the future
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This was actually the only thing preventing me from getting one, although I'll probably wait until they fix their retarded design and make a slim model that can stand vertically, I have no room for a fucking 1988 VCR on my desk.
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This is alienating anyone who bought a Bone up until now.
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>Several months after the launch of the console you can buy the xbox without the kinect for the price of an xbox without the kinect

Based Microsoft
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kek

They just took a giant shit on the people who bought this turd at launch.
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Too little too late

System is underpowered, has no games, and no Jap support ever. Its over.
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I still don't want one.
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>>243398845
This isn't a Nintendo fuckup like they did with the 3Ds. This is without the kinect.

Anyways, final nail in the coffin for Nintendo. They should just focus on toys and Pokemon.
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>Microsoft's decision to remove Kinect from all Xbox One bundles could be problematic for developers and other entertainment providers, as they are now no longer guaranteed that people who pick up their products will have a Kinect camera. We'll have more on this news as it develops.
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NOW they stop trojan horsing these shits.
If they can get some games, and work on some jrpg exclusives like they did with 360 it wouldn't look too shabby.
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>>243395821
I feel kinda bad for early adopters.

>They buy an Xbone at launch for $500 for Tit Anvil
>Eventually gets a Tit Anvil Bundle for $500
>Eventually gets Xbone Kinect-less edition for $400
>within just half a year

It's no wonder there's no hate for Xbox fans on /v/. We mostly just feel sorry for them.
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>>243397857
>has more of a premium operating system running
Explain please.
>also you cannot forget that the cloud system set up is far better than anything sony or nintendo combined have or are even capable of having.
I hope you're baiting. Cloud processing won't do jack shit on game's performance for a goooood couple of years, the overall quality of the IPS through out the world certainly does not help. Even with the best connection/net infrastructure, latency will be a hard to overcome issue. Of course, if you're a console tard, latency might not bother you much.
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>>243398891
>No Jap support.
Not to sound like a Microshit but why do you fags but over Japanese support?

Japan hasn't made a good game besides Boneretta and Dark Souls in 10 years. Japan is finished, it's over and they are focusing on other things like the DS, Mobile games and porn sims
>inb4 long winded vaporware speculative Japan list.
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>>243395821
But it was so important and couldn't be removed, according to them. Was that all a lie?
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Even NSA jumped ship?
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>Tfw you got your Xbone for free
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>>243399017
Nintendo has what to do with this Doctor Shitpost?
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>>243398891

>no jap support ever

MS is money hatting some exclusives again, just wait for E3, some japs and weebs gonna be pissed.
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WE DID IT BROS
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>>243399173
If Japan is finished then so are video games, since they're the only country that consistently made good ones.
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>>243399179
This is through consumer feedback. Something Jap companies have never heard of.

If you want to know what it is to communicate with the company, try Microsoft, fuck even Sony is more or less Americanized.
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>xbone $400
>shit tier 30fps 480p graphics

>ps4 $400
>720p 60fps

ill buy an xbone for $200 no more
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>>243398717
Here, I made this for you. It's yours now.
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>still have to pay for online
>still is weaker than my pc
>still is an xbone
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>>243399137
I think he's talking about M$ Azure servers, which really are the best in the world even if 'power of da cloud' is a complete lie.
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>>243399392
Do you have a magical fontmatching program like all those fansubbers?
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>>243397857
>premium operating system
>muh cloud

doesn't mean shit, the operating system is a windows RT and 8 variant, it does little to add to the performance beyond GUI components

the PS4 uses another BSD variant like the PS3 did, they can make it do what ever they want the same way microsoft can

You still have to pay 15 dollars a month for freeware on Xbox like skype, internet explorer and VOIP that would otherwise be free literally everywhere else

the cloud services mean little also, this isn't anything new cloud services have been around for 20 years its nothing special
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>>243399173
>buying a console to play western game
You can't be this retarded, can you?
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>>243399017
How is the Xbone being slightly less shit killing Nintendo?
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>>243395821
well, this only helps strengthen arguments towards getting this console, now.

it'll actually be cheaper in Australia than the PS4 is.

but anyway, expect a counter from Sony to try and up the appeal of their console.

unless they just want to ride this wave of manufactured hype some more.
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>>243399296
>consistently made good ones
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>>243398121
newflash, ps4 and wii u are garbage
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>>243399450
>Azure servers, which really are the best in the world
its a real woopty do if they have the most powerful "cloud" servers

every NAS or SAN system is all cloud storage by that means
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>>243399250
It's called business.
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>>243395821
>That leaked info on Gaf were true.

So is it safe to say that project beast is PS4 exclusive.

thats the only game i care about right now.
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They just fucked their day-one adopters right in the ass. Serves them right.
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>>243399538
>this only helps strengthen arguments towards getting this console, now.

If by this you mean, one of the many reasons not to get an xbone just got a little bit weaker, than yes.
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>>243399173

>likes western games
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>>243398121
>both companies are selling their console for almost no profit
>hurr they suck guys
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>>243397954
ms-ceo nutella is desperate
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>>243399521
Competition. It became cheaper for parents to buy the Xbone over Wii U.
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>>243399450
doesn't matter how great your clouds are if the raindrops aren't getting where they need to be.
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>>243399508
>Buying a console to play shitty JARPEGS because you are a fucking weeb
>Literally drinking shit because it was made in Japan.
I see Weebs never fucking changed. I thought the Peter Pan syndrome would had worn out by now but I underestimated the mad delusions of a weeaboo.
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>>243399583
It's called trying to start shit and breaking rule 3 silly.
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>>243399245
>EmptyHero dancing with his harem
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>>243399580
Better servers mean less downtime, lower latency, less st generally more reliable service.
Remember when PSN went down for a whole month?
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>>243399346
>PS4
>60fps

:^)
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>>243399543
Enjoy your shooters, nignog
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Xboner owner here.

r/XboxOne's tears are fucking delicious. This is the only thing leddit is good for.
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>>243395821
But it still costs $400.
Do you know how hard I could upgrade my PC with $400? Or how much weed I could buy?

Literally anything else is a better use of my money. Fuck the Xbone.
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First Sunset Overdrive's disappointing reveal, then this.

We'll need to lengthen this image by E3 at this rate.
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I was hoping at least one interesting and unique game would show up for kinect but now chances of that is almost zero.
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>All those people who bought it at launch
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>>243399734
Holy shit. We can only discuss system sales and market share when Nintendo is dominating?
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Tabletless Wii U when?
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Aren't they basically ensuring the kinect is a failed gimmick now? I mean, it was gonna be a slow death anyway, so kudos to them for realizing it, but still.

With a disjointed Xbox One userbase, no serious developer is gonna make use of the kinect. You'll get your gimmicky kid games and indie games that experiment with it, and that's all.
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PS4 is getting this

Xbone isn't

PS4 won
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>>243398424
Of course it will be enough to let them win NA. They were already winning NA well before this.

Fucking hell, I hate NA consumers.
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rip sony
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5 threads about this shit mods, time for a sticky.
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>>243399463
Don't know about funsubbers, but web pages can be easily hacked with Chrome or Firefox developer tools.
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>>243398090

It's really ONLY because of the IP's they own. I really am upset that I can't play Killer Instinct and the Halo 2 remake but it's whatever.

I've watched people stream before and the snap thing is pretty cool as well. You still have to weigh better looking games vs features/exclusives

It's a toss up really.
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Wow i have an idiot friend who bought an xbone. Sold his 360 and 30+ games to get it too. Now all he has is Titanfall. His PC is good too, an extra $500 would have made Titanfall run just fine.

Fucking Casuals
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>>243399696

I see anti-weeb never fucknig changed, I thought they would have stop being such insecure piece of shit and grew up by now but I underestimated the mad delusions of an anti-weeaboo.
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>Kinect is an integrated part of the Xbone experience
>Everyone has it so everyone can use it
>Please buy
>No wait come back
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>>243399892
>They were already winning NA well before this.
They're not winning NA, anon. They're behind by 300k or so
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>>243399886
>Compile Heart
AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>243395821

so they fucked the consumers who allready bought one. based mocrosoft
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>>243399656
How? The Wii U is still $299 with a game, while Xbone is $399 after removing the kinect.
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>>243399791
Oh that's fucking hilarious. They are angry at the kinect no longer being required. They are literally the opposite of /v/
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>>243399841
Sure we can, just don't bring up a company with no prior reference leading into said discussion when the basis is just trying to make fans of said company mad.
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>>243399791

He was so happy with his choice nine hours ago.
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>>243398064
Wii U/PC Master race
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>>243399913
>hacked
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>>243399641
What the fuck does profit have to do with anything?
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>>243399892
>They were already winning NA well before this.

But that's wrong. PS4 is winning NA.
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>>243399964
Cowabunga and feefah.
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>>243399416

>Still can own physical games for now
>And play Killer Instinct for that MLG money
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>>243399745
>Better servers mean less downtime, lower latency, less st generally more reliable service.
not necessarily, those features are generally reserved to NAS systems in conjunction which aren't that rare at all

less downtime is just an IT thing, they probably do have the personnel to handle the maintenance, PSN went down after their entire database got hacked and they stored their customer information in fucking plaintext

lower latency only really applies to the client's upload connection to their servers, every server handles it the same way, latency is caused by packet loss or drop which is usually and should be handled extracurricularly but is often not, like EA servers a shit
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>>243399903
>private teacher
my favorite porno
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>this kills the kinect

Seriously, without this thing attached to the xbone like a tumor or parasite, no (sane) dev would ever develop for it.

And because it's no longer part of the system, devs won't be obliged to use it in the slightest.

Then, anons, who would ever use the Kinect outside of gimmicky bullshit shovelware?

MS just put a bullet in it. A shame it basically cost them this generation to figure it out.
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>>243400078
>desperate microsoft damage control
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>>243399053
Thats the thing, it screws them in multiple ways AND makes them choking on their own words about the kinect being an "integral" part of the console. They hammered it in about the kinect being the future of gaming and tried to force it down our throats, and now they are going "Haha just kidding guys, turns out you don't need it at all! Sorry everyone who got screwed over buying it earlier!" Now they effectively kill any innovation they can get from kinect, screw over xbone games adding kinect elements to their game (though it seems they are good about making kinect commands optional), and now relegate kinect to "gimmick" status since no one's gonna waste their time on something that not everyone is going to have.

The thing is, they are pulling so many reversals with their console I'm REALLY iffy on considering to get one. It seems they have no idea what they want to do. Still waiting for actual games on either side.
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>PS4 hardware
>XB1 controller

the master race will never be realised.
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>>243399463
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>>243399791
>If I ever meet Phil it'll be his face hitting the concrete.

and this is coming from an xbot? Looks like Phil Spencer is the best thing to happen to Xbox.
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>>243400078
Let the butthurt flow through you.
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>>243400078

lel, how pathetic.

Only in 4chan
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>>243400078
Calm down spaz, what has to do Japan with these?
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>>243399696
Or maybe its the simple fucking fact that 99% of western titles are released on PC where they run better
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>>243400207
But the xbone controller is a piece of shit.

The 360 is better.
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>>243399846
WiiU Multi-play bundle, WiiU Red/Green Special edition Super Mario Bros console, two pro controllers one red with an (M), the other Green with an (L), NSMBU, 3D World, Mario Kart 8

$350

would you buy it?
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good
I hope kinect receives more interest from the PC community. this thing is pretty nice, but on a console, its potential is wasted
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>>243399827

>All those Sony tears of "BUT IT DOESNT MATTER"

Beautiful

Rest of you, Think about this. They announced all this. All what their fanbase and all the fence sitters have been wanting. And did it on the eve of Sony having to eat shit and take one of it's biggest losses in company history and have no hope in hell of a price drop in the next year or two.

AND M$ announced next month 360 owners get Dark Souls, Charlie Murder and SSF4 AE for free to keep forever.

Microsoft just took a gigantic steaming dump on Sony on the bleakest day in that companies history. It's fucking hillarious.

Drink those tears up like a fucking Irish funeral
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>>243399846
Hopefully never. Ninty isn't dumb enough to remove the only thing that sets their underpowered console apart. At least more than once.
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>>243395821
Does this mean the Xbox faggots are coming back?

On the plus side, camera gaming is dead.
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>>243400191
It was an integral part of the $$$$$$$$$ experience, when the $$$$$$$$$ part wasn't working out for them it was no longer integral.
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>>243400171
>Implying I'm a microshill
>implying you aren't a WIDF
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How can you faggots seriously be hating on this move? It is how it should've been from the start. Now I can actually justify buying the xbone. It at least has games, unlike the ps4 or wii u. There is far better prospect for the xbone than the wii u and it just runs better than any of its competition. Fags may be hating on windows 8 but thats mostly cause you idiots refuse to try it.
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>mfw xbone continues to sell like shits after this

I wonder what they will blame next...
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>>243400207
>xbone controller
>good
Nobody likes your vibrating triggers that make peoples fingers numb.
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Harmonix isn't taking this too well
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>>243400078

> you will never EVER be this mad
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdKsgBNEHUU

Xbox 180.
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>>243400396

>implying the xbone has games

Sure it's tied with the ps4 for nogaems. But at least the wii-u has first party ninty if you're into that shit.

well they are since they were stupid enough to buy a wii-u
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>>243399791
I'm an xboner. Why are they pissed? They could have waited. I bought an xbone with kinect in mind as I love voice controls (really good with kinect) and its really nice to have a HD camera for Skype as I'm living away from my family. I'm not mad that they're releasing a kinect-less xbone; on the contrary I'm hoping this convinces more people to get one as its a decent console with some good exclusives both currently and coming soon.
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>>243399791

is this kind of hate speech even allowed on leddit?
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>>243400396
because neogaf is a sony central and /v/ is a neogaf central
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>>243400396
>It at least has games
>runs better than any of its competition

oh god, the blatant wrong of it all
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>>243400343
>>243400432
the controller is ergonomic bliss
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>>243400445
I was confused as to why, but they're making that Fantasia game, aren't they?

Ouch.
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>>243400007
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>>243395821
no kinect no buy
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>>243399913
>hacked
Ok then, buddy

Why don't you fire up LOIC and start DDOSing Microsoft?
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>>243400180

>still considering getting an xbone

Just don't, anon. That DRM/dial home/used games shit they backpedaled on last year is just hiding in the shadows; ready to be turned back on whenever MS wants to. They've even said as much themselves.

>>243400352

Sony's games business is doing fine and, if anything, it will be the one to weather the storm while its other divisions fail. Sort of the inverse of the Xbone division at MS.

And MS did no such thing to Sony here. The Xbone is the device losing its lunch to the competitor products and MS, in an act of desperation, went against what they said previously and are now shipping a Kinect-less xbone.

Quit trying to turn this into some sort of faggy xbone v. Sony thread. We're all just talking about how hilarious it is that MS did this.
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>>243399791
Gotta love the Xbox community. People like that are the reason I never bothered getting a Gold subscription.
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>>243400582
It really isn't, its probably bottom rung unless you plan on playing a sports game or fps. The latter you really ought not to be playing on a console
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>>243400396
Because they were promising us the Kinect was the next big thing, but by making it an optional component and creating a disjointed Xbox One userbase, they ensured no decent developer will ever program for it.

The only games you'll see on it are gimmicky shovelware games that no one will care about. All those morons who bought Xbox One's already spent $100 for a tumor on their console. And it's not even benign... thank you NSA
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>>243399450
Amazon is better in all but price.
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>>243400352
>AND M$ announced next month 360 owners get Dark Souls, Charlie Murder and SSF4 AE for free to keep forever.
People bitch when Playstation Plus owners get games for free. What's different here?
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>>243400180
>online only cant be undong
they undo it
>DRM cant be undone
they undo it
>cant work without kinect
they say you can use it without kinect
>cant be backwards compatible
announce they are working on emulation
>finally say they are getting rid of kinect in the sytem bundles
This screws over lots of devs and its one selling feature over SONY
>said half the cost of a Xone was the kinect
Why did they only drop the price by a 100 bucks?

So Xone is now less powerful and the same price without anything innovated to stand it apart from PS4.
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>>243399245
>free garbage
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>>243400732
manlet hands confirmed
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>>243400795
When your playstation plus runs out, they take your games away.
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Call me when the make a slim model and I *might* consider pirating one then subscribing to live.
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>>243399608

To be fair, it's without another piece of hardware.

I remember buying a 3DS and then immediately having Nintendo reduce the price. I wasn't bitter, I should have waited.
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>>243400315

For some people the coolest and the most mature thing is to shit on Japan/anime/JRPG. Is anime super popular among all murikkkan teens or something?
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>>243400078
>all that projecting
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You know I'd get the xbone but I can't shake that feeling that this was supposed to be a multi media machine and not a game console, so even if I do get one when some nice games come for it (Sunset Overdrive, Halo etc) I will be fucked in the future.
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>399

Still too much. And now I don't even get a spy camera.
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>>243395821
>drops the Live Gold requirement for streaming apps


WOW I CAN FINALLY WATCH NETFLIX WITHOUT PAYING TWICE FOR THE PRIVILEGE?

they are changing policies and copying Sony at every turn this gen

>sony has no DRM, they must drop theirs
>sony does not bundle their camera and console, they must follow
>sony doesn't force you to buy PS+ in order to use apps that have nothing to do with Sony services, they must do the same


Say it with me:
Sony Won.
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>>243400795
Xbox users keep the game if their subscription lapses. PlayStation users do not.
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>>243400732
what is then? apart from the 360 one, which is basically a prototype of the xb1?
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>>243399974
Of course they're pissed the kinect's being dropped.
They're the poor dumbfucks who bought the xbone before it was kinect-less.
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>>243400582
As if. The 360 controller is leagues better and the sticks don't feel like a Mcdonald's toy.
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>>243399903
There was a sticky but it slipped off.
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>>243397954
That's good. Smart move.
Still, never gonna buy an Xbone because of the fact that they even tried that shit.
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how can one be more desperate
these people will literally eat shit if microsoft told them so
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>>243400919
leddit is hilarious right now
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>>243400865
>>243400968
I honestly never knew that. Thanks.
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>>243395821
but how are they supposed to spy on us now?
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>>243400861
Even if I did have minihands, the xbone controller wouldn't be more of an ergonomic bedshitter.
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>>243400608

Everyone who's played it says Fantasia is really good. If it's good enough, it will sell the peripheral like Dance Central did (And Amplitude's going to fail. As soon as Sony got involved. People were not happy)

>>243400679

>All this booty blasted Sony Shilling
>All this completely wrong since Sony actually posted less gaming profit than Microsoft did in the last few months. >"S-S-Stop laughing at Sony p-pls"

A mans sides have never penetrated the atmosphere at such speeds until I read your post.
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>Buying a console that doesn't have a way to pirate games.

Lol peasants
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>>243399791
Who is this "Phil"? Doctor Phil? DS Phil?
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>>243401073
>defending DRM and Spycam

redditors truly are the dumbest people
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>>243400963
Maybe I can finally use IE on my 360.
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So now its a weaker PS4 with a shitter UI and controller I guess.

Go consoles.
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>>243400913
It was popular some time ago. Now it has faded. Teens and kids are more obsessed with Disney manufactured idols.
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>>243400963
>sony forces paid online for videogames
>sony consistently lying about game performance

Say it with me:
Nobody wins
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>>243401031
>All those people trying to justify their shitty purchase my praising voice commands
It's fucking beautiful. Buyers remorse at its finest.
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>>243400826
>Why did they only drop the price by a 100 bucks?

So that they still make money. That is the reason businesses exist anon.
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>>243400995
the d-pad is shit and the triggers aren't as good (shape and response, not the vibrate).
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>>243399116
No they just quite literally don't exist, /v/ is composed of Mustards, Nintendo and Sony fans.
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>>243397954
So you're saying I can actually watch netflix without having a shitty sub to xbox online? Fuck yes. Still not getting it though.
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>all this anti-weaboo sentiment
>all this weaboo shitposting

You know Sony never had a monopoly on Japanese games right, and that the Xbox 360 did very well in Japan because it had exclusive Idolm@ster games and shoot em ups?

You're both fucking wrong and probably 15 year old fanboys.
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>>243400963

Are suggesting that Sony doesn't copy successful business practices of other companies? Are you really young?
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>>243400968
>lying this hard

Sony came out and shot that rumor down; you get to keep your games when you get your subscription back, they don't just take it away for good if you lapse payment.

Unless you mean MS lets you KEEP THE GAME outright, like you own it. I call complete BULLSHIT on that one. A company that only today announced you don't have to pay them to access Netflix is not going to do something so non-Jewish.
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>>243400561
titanfall > the 0 games on both the wii u and ps4
I doubt you have played it
>>243400547
if anything, /v/ is more like nintendro central. moreso than gamefaqs
>>243400512
it has more games than the ps4 or wii u trash
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>>243400973
They're both practically the same, the only difference is the bone has vibrating triggers.
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>>243401163
To be fair, it really depends on the subreddit. All default reddits are shit, and it's no surprise the /XboxOne subreddit is filled with absolute shitlords.
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>>243401247
>the Xbox 360 did very well in Japan
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>>243399641
>almost no profit
Yeah, right. I'd only expend $400 on that kind of hardware in a heavily taxed third world country.
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>>243401268
>still saying titanfall is good even though it's completely dead already

k m8
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>>243400901
This, early adopters should always be aware that some cheaper model will be available down the line, it would be naive to think that the same console will be selling for the same price for all year.
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>>243401163
>>243401073
Hey, at least he admitted it. It's hard to admit when you are wrong.

i used to tell people the PS2 was more powerful than the OG Xbox
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>>243401247
>the Xbox 360 did very well in Japan
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>>243401247
>the Xbox 360 did very well in Japan
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>>243401031
>>243401073
Why are they defending this when they basically bought an xbone for full price just to be discounted a couple of months later?
Shouldn't they be angry?
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>>243401268

titanfall is a PC shooter, what are you talking about. Resogun > any xbone exclusive.

Fuck, titanfall is on 360.
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>>243401247

>360
>did very well in Japan
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>>243401246

That works for 360 as well m8. If'n you have one.
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COMEDY GOLD
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>>243401238
>So that they still make money. That is the reason businesses exist anon.

You are supposed to sell systems at cost if you can and make the money back on the games and licensing. This is how companies succeed in this market.
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>>243401247
>The Xbox 360 did very well in Japan
Is that why the Japanese MS division doesn't make a profit at all?
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>>243400968
Not on the Xbone.
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You better have beast souls at your e3 conference sony, or this guy is buying an xbox one for some real games
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>it took them THIS FUCKING LONG to figure it out
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>>243399641
They're not doing it as charity, there are business reasons for doing that moron, the consoles still suck at the moment.
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>>243401110

Spare me your corporate dick-waving. I don't even have a PS4.

And I'd love to see the numbers that say the Xbone (and its immediate services) made more than the PS4's. You are aware that MS includes other sectors in its Entertainment and Services division, right? Ones that help make the Xbone's performance look not so bad to investors?
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>same price
>same shitty sub 60fps games
>paid online with shitty indie games as rewards
>no games
>both platforms can share games
>both platforms can be played offline
>both platforms are filled with microtransactions

Guess that this "we aren't microsoft" bullshit finally died out.
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Weren't they selling a Kinect Xbone with Titanfall for 450?
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>>243401510
still people are retards, they are still calling current gen "next gen" even on /v/
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>>243395821
hey guise
whats going on on this thread?
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So, how are Xbone owners taking this?

M$ effectively just took a giant shit on them.
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>>243401031
>kinect
>i love it

nuke reddit when?
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>>243400945
>Multi media machine.
I don't like the concept at all. It wants to bite more than can it chew.
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HATERS GONNA HATE.
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>>243399641
No shit. The bulk of their profit comes from software and accessories.

They aren't selling the consoles at such a low profit margin because they're charitable. If the consoles were priced any higher, only a small user base of fanatical retards would buy them.
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Reminder if you're hyped about Sunset Overdrive you're fucking stupid

They made Fuse, it looked good in trailer but it became total shit

>>243401451
they can't admit they bought inferior product
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WE WANT THE PS4 AUDIENCE
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B-but it's part of the experience.

Talk about damage control.
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>>243401642
especially since Smart TVs and tablets are so common now it's redundant.
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>>243400424
Thanks anon, that was a fantastic source.
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Sonygger here

Good news for Xbros, i guess.

Still, i am not getting one, maybe i will get one 5 years later just like 360 to play the few worthwhile exclusives
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>>243401656
They made overstrike, not fuse
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>>243401241
All they managed to fix with the d-pad was make it not a circle. Still not on the same level as Ninty d-pads.
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>>243401247
>the Xbox 360 did very well in Japan
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>>243401247
>360 did very well in japan
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>>243401510
>OH JOY THEY ARE FINALLY DOING WHAT EVERYONE ASKED THEM TO DO SINCE GOLD CAME OUT.

This is not based in any way, this is desperation cause the model they were using was driving people to SONY.

They ignored us for 10 fucking years about the paywall shit.
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>>243401294

Are we supposed to be offended by this?
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>>243399479
>the cloud services mean little also, this isn't anything new cloud services have been around for 20 years its nothing special
Cloud as a concept of server client communications has existed for 20 years. We haven't seen huge datacentres full of computing capability in such magnitude or distribution before in history.
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>>243401480
Dear God... it's beautiful
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So fuck the Kinect anyways I'm moar interested in the rumors that XBLA Geld subscription won't be needed anymore for Hulu, Netflix and shit.

What aboot NFL Gamepass and NHL GameCenter? That might be a reason to fire up my 360
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>cost of kinect was 150+
>they are now overcharging for inferior hardware
>ps4 still has way better hardware
>xbox one's entire framework was solely for kinect, which now you dont even need

goes to show you how fucking clueless microsoft is
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>>243401268
Why do you fucks keep throwing around titanfall as if it was an exclusive?
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>>243397857
>premium operating system
Which is SHIIIIIT without the Kinect. Voice commands are literally the only good way around the Xbox One's shit menu system
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If anything the WiiU proved people don't care about price.
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>>243401247
>the Xbox 360 did very well in Japan
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>>243401619
I couldn't really imagine my xbone without the kinect, and people won't realise that without actually owning the kinect.

Thinking it doesn't need it, or you'd prefer it without it is just blind judgement.

But no, I'm not bummed at all, glad I've got mine, been worth every penny so far.
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>>243401480

OOOOOOOO
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>>243395821

fuck yeah, now they have to sell the xbone at a loss
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>>243401683
They've gone 180 on basically everything that was originally said about XBone.
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>>243401724
released as fuse
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>>243395821
Holy shit, what's the fucking point in this underpowered TV TV SPORTS "console" existing at this point at all? That piece of shit was designed around the Kikenect. Also what about the people who bought that shit, hoping they would get actual games that took advantace of NSA's little camera aside from Rare's shitty jump and wave mini games?

At least Nintendo sticks to their tablet controller and announced they will try to implement it even more and make use of it in each new game from now on. That deserves respect. They don't drop it like a hot potato just because some wind is blowing in their face at the moment.

This just proves Microsoft doesn't fucking care AT ALL about video games, its consumers and fans. It's all about short term profits.
Instead of adapting to the situation and making the best out of it, which includes the Kinect, they completely fucking rip out its roots and the justification of this console to exist in the first place.

Now if you are an Xboner I implore you to truly think about this fiasco and whether they are doing this for your sake or just to save their asses.
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>>243397770
I haven't had any issues. Load times are fast for me.

The performance keeps getting better. Lots of updates. Shit was a train wreck for the first few months.

Still needs a lot of work, and I haven't seen any games that look terrific visually.

But then I go back and look at games like F.E.A.R. for the 360 compared to something like Bioshock Infinite, Im sure games will improve a lot. Never on par with a PC obviously.

External hard drives are coming, backwards compatibility, and DX12 (please let it make a difference).

I like mine as my living room console. I would much rather have a gaming PC, but I honestly prefer playing games with people I know over Steam friends.

If I get to a point where I have a lot more disposable income I would love to join the mustard race, but th Xbone works for now.
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>But voice commands are the future
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>>243401247
>the Xbox 360 did very well in Japan

I love playing anime fighters and was really disappointed when they dropped support for the 360. Newest Blazblue went only to the Ps3 and I'm willing to bet the new P4A will probably do the same. Sucks, but I guess the sales weren't worth continuing to make it multiplat.
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>>243401553

Let me guess. You are going to yell "MUH ANDROID ROYALTIES"

They were in Software licencing all the time and the analyst claiming it shut up after Microsoft pointed it out. Hardware is literally just Xbox and Surface. Launch quarter was $411 million and Surface didn't make money. Meanwhile Sony made only $172 million off their launch.

All can be seen in both Microsoft and Sony's quarterly reports which are available on their websites

This has been a public service announcement from >>>/biz/. Please do not try to drag too much autism over tonight.
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>>243397770
Probably not.
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>>243401263
>>243400968
I guess I did need to rephrase, if you renew PS Plus, you get your games 'back.' But for the time period you are not subscribed, you cannot play your previously PS Plus-acquired games.

>>243401498
I was unaware this was not the case for Bone. Thanks!
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>>243401247
Of my time playing LIVE I've only met two nips. They said xbox is barely known in Japan. He just bought one because he loves shooters and Halo, and Mass Effect.
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>mfw Sony drops it's price down by $50

I'm glad I wasn't an early adopter.
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So when's the $149 Wii U without gamepad coming?
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>>243401815
Microsoft? Clueless? I thought forcing people to use a tablet UI on a desktop was one of the smartest things they ever did!

And for over a decade, computer users have been slaving away at the Start Menu. Thank god Microsoft was there to free us from our shackles!
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>>243401480
>This is what made the XB1 a real next gen console.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
You can't make this shit up.
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>>243401853
Holy shit! Dat buyers remorse! Not to mention that there are actual idiots who bought a Xbone on /v/!

HAHAHAHAHA!
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>>243399604
That wasn't from NeoGAF. Project Beast was leaked on /v/.

lel.
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>>243401969
>mlp hat
Xbone audience everybody.
>>
You guys are faggots, they announce you can get free games* and you still shitpost about it? Grow the fuck up.


*Free games require a paid Gold subscription
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>>243401786

>So fuck the Kinect anyways I'm moar interested in the rumors that XBLA Geld subscription won't be needed anymore for Hulu, Netflix and shit.

can't that new google chromecast thing do all that and only costs $35? You could pick up a used ps3 for that too. Fuck maybe even an ouya it has more games than the xbone.
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didnt think they had the balls to do it dang microsoft https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr72mYkHd5k
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>>243401696
This one is good too.
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>>243402041
this would literally be day one purchase for me.
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>>243401483

Except nintendo. There is no rule that says that you have to follow that retarded revenue model. It only really works with minimal competition. The PS2 did fine when it was top dog, the PS3 raped sony's wallet. Its too damn risky.
>>
Unless they do a massive ad campaign for this, no one will notice.

Xbones are just becoming walls of boxes at my Best Buy.
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>>243401389
Its actually not, but you probably havent even played the game. let alone play it on the one
>>243401461
The game was clearly designed more for console experience. Similar to COD. Resogun is trash
>>243401830
Microsoft exclusive lil buddy.
>>
Xbots mad right now.

Ponies always mad at any news from M$.
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>>243402121
Are you sure it's not an Angry Birds hat?
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>>243401815
>>xbox one's entire framework was solely for kinect, which now you dont even need

Not to mention no one will even bother with Kinect now when it's entirely optional. Before they least had the excuse "well, everyone owns one, so we might as well do something with it".
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>>243402078
Buyers remorse would strongly imply I regret buying one.

Lol you are a dildo and you use dildos
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>>243401989
>if you renew PS Plus, you get your games 'back.'
That was the best thing for me.

I like to make sure I add the stuff to the cart and lock it in. I spent 2 years without PS+ Bought 3 months beat the games in my back log and let it lapse again. I like to think of it as like a rental membership.
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>>243401875
The bone is no longer a non-starter for me. I can see an impulse purchase in the next two years.

I will never own a WiiU because of the shit tablet. And that thing is selling used for less than the last gen consoles.
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>>243402193
Played it the other night at my m8s, but sure. Keep lying to yourself. It just doesn't feel fun after a couple of rounds.
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>>243402006
Early adopters don't care about the money in the first place they just want their shiny new toy NOW, even if it has only one game. They're the dumbest of the dumb really.
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>>243402193
except that it's on PC aswell bebop
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>>243401145
Phil Fish.
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>>243401895
It works great for recording game clips and watching Netflix. It's actually awesome.

Everything else is horrible.
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>>243402006
>still selling units
>not in the best financial situation right now
Unlikely.
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>>243401247
>the Xbox 360 did very well in Japan
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>>243402261
That's how the Games with Gold will work on the Xbone now.
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>>243402184
>Except nintendo.
And in the end they did not have good games other then first party shit because of this practice of making cheap hardware that is underpowered.
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>>243402290
sadly my dad was like that. he doesn't even play games except for looking at the web cam chats in the PS Live section
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>>243402121

It's a Phineus and Ferb had, you mongoloid.
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>>243401145
phil specter, boss of xbone and vidya and entertainment at ms.
>>
>XBOX IS MANDATORY DEAL WITH IT
>XBOX IS OPTIONAL BUT YOU NEED TO STILL BUY IT SUCK IT
>G-GUYS?? WE REMOVED KINECT PLEASE COME BACK OH GOD
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>>243401695
It sounds weird, but there was a time when consoles were for playing video games.
>>
MICROSOFT WINS E3!
MICROSOFT WINS E3!!
MICROSOFT WINS E3!!!
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I thought the Xbone wouldn't work without Kinect?
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>>243402261

Yeah and the new Gold thingw orks the exact same now.
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Took too long to copy psn plus, everybody has gotten their ps4s already because of this. Its already begun snowballing like it did in the early part of last generation with the xbox being the clear choice because of the difficulty to develop for the ps3. game companies are already making the ps4 the default demoing console for cross platform games
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>>243401247
>that the Xbox 360 did very well in Japan
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>>243399903
>>243400128
My niggas.
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-02-25-microsoft-no-plans-to-release-an-xbox-one-without-kinect

"As we've said from the very beginning, we believe Kinect is an absolutely integral part of the Xbox One experience."

Xbox 180, ladies and gentlemen.
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>>243402256
you regret not waiting for sans-kinect, just admit it.
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>>243399017
>talk about Microsoft
>Sony and Nintendo constantly mentioned in thread.

Goddamnit faggots
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>>243397684
Inferior to such a tiny degree it doesn't matter. If you care about the minuscule difference between the two you would have a gaming PC.
The real difference now is going to be games. Do you want Titanfall for Infamous?
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Ahahaha, oh shit. I can't believe Microsoft is doing this again.

Remember XBone announcement? Sure, they beat Sony to revealing their next-gen console, they also put the specs and price out, letting Sony beat them if they wanted.
Now they're doing this right before E3. If Sony has any sense they'll announce price drop on stage.

How do they keep making the same fucking mistake?
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>>243401853
>been worth every penny so far.
Worth every penny so far? You price being able to do things with your voice that could be done with the controller that is sitting in your hand anyway at one hundred fucking dollars?

I wonder how much you'd pay if Microsoft wiped your ass for you.
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>>243402467
They went back on that after people started calling it a spy camera
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>>243401247
>the Xbox 360 did very well in Japan
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>>243401992
That Jap has good taste!
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>>243401930
Isn't the new P4A already confirmed for the 360 though?

What else is missing? Turbo versions of old games? Yeah, big deal really.

Where's your turbo edition of Bullet Soul, btw?
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>>243401247
>Xbox 360 did very well in Japan
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>>243401930
P4 Ultimax is confirmed for 360 outside of japan
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>>243401527
>>243401651

When the did I say they are doing it out of charity? Stupid /v/irgin morons. Try building a gayman PC with all the functionality of those consoles at that price. You can't.

Anyone who who compare the $400 console hardware to PC that cost so much more are die hard PC fanboys with the mentality of a diehard console fanboy.
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>>243400207
http://www.thedigitaldispatch.com/how-to-replace-your-dualshock-4-thumbsticks-with-xbox-one-thumbsticks/

why not both
>>
Man. They keep doing damage control, aren't they?
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>>243402371
we need clarification on if you let your sub lapse and come back later.
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>>243401247

>the Xbox 360 did very well in Japan
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>>243395821

It's good that they finally listened, however they've lost me as a customer due to all the bullshit they tried to pull with it initially. Can't wait til mario kart comes out and I'll grab a wiiu.
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>>243401247
>xbox
>japan
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>>243401247
>the Xbox 360 did very well in Japan

No...No it didn't.
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>>243402263
>I will never own a WiiU because of the shit tablet.
Most first party games are playable with the Pro controller anon, excluding stuff like Nintendoland and Wii Party
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>>243399791
H-How horrifying! I never went to reddit (not even once, mainly because I had no reason to), but it's like a 4chan board filled with retarded tripfags.
That post brought back some of the love I had lost for /v/.
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>>243401510
what is "Home Gold"?`
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>>243401247
>the Xbox 360 did very well in Japan
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>>243401695
Smart TVs are seriously underpowered and have no apps.

I own a Samsung Smart TV and while the idea is great and all the realization of it in practice is lacking to say the least. There are only handful of apps for it, low amount of memory means that it has issues even playing Youtube shit without buffering every 2 minutes and the number of apps hasn't grown in a little over a year since I had the thing.

At this point in time something like a Chromecast, Android TV or whatever is far superior choice to a Smart TV.

It has its perks, Plex is seriously awesome but in general that technology still needs to mature.
And quite frankly I don't see any steps being taken in that regards.
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>le xbox 360 le did le very le well le in le japan meme

So fanny, am I cool now?
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>>243401247
>the Xbox 360 did very well in Japan

This is literally the most wrong anyone have ever been
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>>243402721
>THE KINECT IS SHIT
its nice to see them admitting that they willingly bought shit
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>>243402765
you but gold membership and everyone in your house can use it on their accounts. I think
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>>243402640
typical consoletard logic, I may not be able to build a PC capable of full next gen yet but in a couple of years I will be able to build a better one for cheaper and so on.
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>>243399346
>ps4
>60 fps

Nice b8 faggot. Both consoles are shit
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Welp, now I have no reason left to buy a ps4 over an xbone.

If Microsoft delivers a good E3 I'm all in.
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>>243402686
The phrasing "Active Gold membership required to play free games you've downloaded" is pretty clear.
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>>243402647
the ergonomics of the ps4 controller are shit though compared to the xb1
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>>243402524
i've been looking for this comic for like a year now, does anyone has the name?
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The fact that they already forced that piece of shit camera with it tells me enough.

It feels nice having to wait one more gen to MAYBE get a next gen console.
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>>243395821

So Xbone-tan is now blind?
Now this is a real trainwreck.
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Based CDPR telling it like it is. Now that Xbone is 400 bucks, no reason to enjoy superior gaming system, as 1080p is just some bullshit sony thought up of to help market their shitty system
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>>243402832
oh, that so un-merchant-y. nice.
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>>243401247
>because it had exclusive Idolm@ster games and shoot em ups?
That is exactly why 360 was the otaku console for few years in Japan, with visual novels and all that crap. But then Idolm@ster exclusivity stopped, and PS3 version even got more DLC than 360.
In later years none of smaller Japanese devs were making games for 360 anymore.
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>>243402775
>Android TV
that was pretty much what I meant really, I mean what will that cost? $100 at most probably, so no one has any reason to spend $400 on an xbox for multimedia now.
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>>243402401

Making money is the name of the game friend.
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>>243402640
>Try building a gayman PC with all the functionality of those consoles at that price. You can't.
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>>243402532

Because Sony's in such dire straights they can't afford it

On top of that, 12 hours and this board gets inundated with

>$1.3 Billion

Also Morpheus needs the camera. So at E3 Sony have to sell their stupid spy camera to the masses.

Actually lol this is reking sony more and more by the minute.
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>>243402851
Except... you know... superior versions of the ludicrous number of fucking multiplats we'll be getting this gen.
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>>243401247

>the Xbox 360 did very well in Japan
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>>243401247

>360 did well in japan
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>>243401247
>the Xbox 360 did very well in Japan
you just made my fucking morning
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>>243402950
I'm surprised a Projekt Red person is so wrong
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>something something xbox
>LEL IMPLYING I WANT A NSA SPYBOX
>microsoft removes NSA spybox
>erm, err, my old arguement doesn't fit anymore after saying it 1000000x to shitpost, I KNOW
>GRAPHICS NOW MATTER
Just you wait
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>>243402951

Butt Devastated.
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>>243402450

I remember when phones were for making phone calls and not mini computers

Fucking dumbshit purists scum, you will forever be a tiny whisper on the internet
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>>243402721

> tfw when you see idiots finally seeing the light

It's glorious.
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>>243402950
2/10, made me reply.
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>>243401247
>the Xbox 360 did very well in Japan
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I just wanted to play video games....
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>>243402851
sameame
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>>243399245

tfw I got a bag of trah for free
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>>243399791
>This is the only thing leddit is good for.
>It's okay, this is the only reason I go there!
Stay there faggot
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>>243402686
ye
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>>243402948

Blind girls are moé and best girl you faggot.

Deaf girls a slut
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And a big fuck you to early adopters that were forced into the fucking Kinect
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>>243403005

>Sony can't afford to!

If you're a dolt and take their financial postings at face value maybe then you'd think that. Realistically it'd make a shitload of sense to do a $50 price drop if it means they sell 1.5 consoles for every 1 console before the drop.

And what? Sony's camera has always been an optional attachment and they don't need to push it.

Honestly anon, you're grasping at some titanic straws to attempt to shit on Sony. (For seemingly no reason.)
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>>243402951
>>243401247
>>243403171
The 360 did pretty poorly in Japan though.
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>>243402121
>>243402228
.....You fuckers really cant tell that that is a Phineas and Ferb hat?
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>>243403007
I always buy multiplats on my PC. They are cheaper and superior. If I pick a console it is for its exclusives. And right now Ps4 exclusives are dog shit.
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>>243403042
Wrong. It has no games.
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>Those Twatter comments
>"Can I trade my kinect in and get a refund?"
>"Can I give my kinect back to Gamestop for $100 back?"

Today is a glorious day, rejoice my friends. Rejoice together as one against this common enemy.
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>Microsoft
>Not cancer
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>>243403181

B-but I liked the deaf girl the most...
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whats the better deal in your opinion?
xbone for 399 or xbone with kinect and titanfall for 449?
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>>243401247
>Xbox 360 did very well in Japan
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>>243400531
Subreddits have their own rules and reddit itself has some rules such as no doxing.
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>>243402721

What's extra funny to me is the people with the 'DAY ONE' tag seemingly bought the xbone at launch to get the special version of it.

Their tears are doubly delicious.
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>>243403247
>watching shitty Disney cartoons.
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>>243403247
Not him, but it's an extremely old running joke that died way back when.
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>old ceo gets shitcanned
>new one makes big changes because he was brought in to make big changes
>people freak out

man this new ceo is tottally doing a 180 on the stuff that old one that was told to fuck off for fucking up xbox said!
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/v/ was right again. Anyone who decided to buy an xbone is getting blown the fuck out.
>Listening to micro$hits lies
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>>243402121
you
i remember you
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>>243395821
Cool, that probably means it'll be 300 used.
Release a new fucking Battletoads and I'm sold.
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>>243403263

And most people don't own a gaming PC, so they will buy the stronger console for multiplats instead.
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Why is this allowed?
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>>243402151

Nah you misunderstand me. I ain't getting an xbone, but if I have 360 already, and I do, should they remove XBLA requirement for like Gamecenter app then my 360 becomes useful again, which it hasn't been in the two and half years its been since I built a gaming PC.

Right now I'm watching NHL and NFL on a tablet or a PC, but if I could watch it via 360 on my TV, without having to pay extra I'd switch in an instant
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>>243403294
>microsoft
>lying left and right since day one about Xbone
>trusting them now
>power of the cloud

really dude, they have a very bad track record.
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>>243403263
XBone exclusives aren't much better. Or are you really in that much of a hurry to play Dead Rising 3?
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>>243403171
Why are you denying it,no one wanted the 3shitty on japan
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>>243403041
How much do you think MS is paying them?
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PS4 must've outsold XB1 more than 2:1 to release this on the same day as the NPD numbers
maybe the wiiu even outsold it
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>>243403357
>crackthecracker
>DAY ONE emblem by his name
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>>243402839

Typical PC faggot logic, in a couple of years the next gen console price will drop in price and you still won't able to build a PC with similar specs at that price.

Eat shit you stupid PC fanboy. I own a gaming PC myself yet I don't see my self wanting to fuck my PC. Something is very wrong with you disgusting PC humping faggots. You people are worst than vegetarians.
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>>243402261
People complain that you don't keep your games if PS+ runs out, but you don't keep your Netflix or Amazon Instant Video or Hulu content is your memborship lapses either.
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>>243403357

It was so painfully obvious, I can't believe anyone actually bought it.

It's even more obvious now how much bullshit they were fed.

>KINECT IS A PROMINENT FEATURE, XBOX ON
>Get the Xbone without Kinect for $399

SO PROMINENT THIS FEATURE
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>>243402979
>PS3fags will never EVER get Punk Gothic
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>>243403041
>>243403070
>>243402950
High resolution doesn't mean good graphics (look at Forza 5). 900p and 1080p difference is negligible.
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>>243403057
Calm down.
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>>243403229
What's the point though? Japan is irrelevant and the only games the PS3 is getting over the Xbox 360 are really niche games.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish
Remember, Microsoft slowly sucked the life out of every industry it touches.
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>>243402951
goddam look at all that rear end damage
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>>243403348
>everything we were told was a lie
>made to pay extra money for blatant lies

Why would we not be upset.
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>>243402634
Really? Cool. Shame about Blazblue though
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>>243402874
not imo, i hated all playstation controllers before with a passion and love the 360's, but the changes to the PS4 controller are pretty good and I was able to get past stick placement pretty quickly.

PS4 controller is a huge improvement and I like it
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>all that NeoGaf butthurt
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>>243402721
>all these buyers remorse

this is why I don't buy a new console at launch.
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>>243403247
>watching disney cartoons in 2008 and beyond
wait... if you were 12 then you'd be 18 now
fuck me I'm old
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>>243403486

>Or are you really in that much of a hurry to play Dead Rising 3?

I am ;_;
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>>243395821
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>>243403290
>common enemy
...XBox?
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>>243403290
What common enemy?
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Well fuck, looks like I'm getting an Xbone over a PS4. Neither are great but at least its got Killer Instinct and Halo coming out soon. And PS4 is getting...?
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I still don't see the appeal for the xbone, ps4, or the wii U. There all a bunch of no games netflix machines.
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>>243403640
>revolutionized pc industry
>saved it and competitors (apple) multiple times
>sucks the life out of
I don't think so tim
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This only matters if they also announce at E3 that they're dropping the price another $50. Matching Sony won't save them.

Kudos on lifting the paywall though. It only took 8 years or whatever. And remember when the new Xbox lead was saying IT'S ALL ABOUT THE GAMES GAMES GAMES?
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>>243403723
ew, does she have stomach cancer or something?
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>>243403158
I only go to r/XboxOne for news, you fucking fag.

The pro-Kinect bullshit that's posted every fucking day there is cringe-worthy, and they can finally drown in ass devastation.

I only go to r/XboxOne and r/Halo, and that only started 6 months ago, and I've been here for over 4 years.
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>>243399641
You shills move fast.
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>>243395821
Well thats shit. Now they can never make anything ground breaking with kinect as it would make half of their customers angry. The new kinect really could have had real potential in the long run but this really kills it. Never gonna get an xbox one because of all the backtracking they've done. First always online and now this. I'll probably get ps 4 later down the line for them jrpgs though.
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>>243403650
>>243402634

Its only did because atlus has a say so too.
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>>243403310

If your goal is to get titlandfall, both bundles cost exactly the same except you'll be getting a spycam with one.
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>>243403650
Blazblue 3? It's shit.

Even the art quality plummeted.
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I don't get how they're only dropping the price by $100 when the kinect is half the cost of the system itself.

Either way nobody is going to buy this shit. At least nobody who wasn't going to anyway.
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>>243401247
>Xbox 360 did very well in Japan
this guy
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>>243403415
>why is this allowed?

It shouldn't be at fucking all, considering what is going to happen when MS shuts down the servers for all this shit within the next decade. You do not buy a console that will not function in the future. Imagine if you were told that your NES would suddenly not play any games by a certain date. Or for that matter your fucking PS3. One generation ago saying this would get you laughed at. "haha anon you are NUTS, they wouldnt implement that!" Look where we are now.
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>>243402864
Not with the amount of lies MS spews its not.
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Microsoft just killed her.
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Kinect is like the New Coke, it will be around forever!
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>>243403750
>getting either
>getting one because its shit, but just a little less shit now
Consolefags pls.
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Was anyone actually surprised by this?

I've been expecting them to announce a Kinect-less SKU since the day the console was priced at $500.
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>>243403893
does that mean that we will see her eyes?
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Where is the HDMI capture functionality, Microsoft?
I swear, being able to capture 1080p60 video from the line in would have added at least $100 value.
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>>243395821
So they effectively fucked over every early adapter that didn't want kinect to begin with.

Regardless its a weaker system, they would have to do a fuckload more than an even price and gold changes to match the install base of the PS4/
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>>243403837
They should lower it to $300 even if it means taking a loss on each console, lord knows they would make it up in Live sheckles.

They would kill the Wii U more than it already has been.
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>>243403624

Don't tell me to calm down you stupid mother fucker. I am the anti-stupid police and whenever you say stupid shit I will be there to kick your stupid ass.
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>>243403893
They killed her by turning her into Monsoon?
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>>243395821
>There won't be any significant difference between xbox one and ps4!
>consistently can only run literally half the pixels.
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>>243403837
Kinect is only $50. That's how much they're selling it for separately.

So 1 of 2 things are happening:

1) They outright lied about Kinect
2) They're taking not-insubstantial losses on each system/peripheral sold now
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>>243403893
>Xbone-tan gets a blind twin sister
I'm ok with this.
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>>243403737
>>243403739

Clearly Xboners yes. I think everybody hates Microsoft except Microshills.
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>Nintendo's Wii U is their worst selling home console to date
>Xbone already had a pricecut in some regions and Microsoft is trying to salvage it
>PS4 gets hype from Sony tweets, yet monthly sales data isn't divulge for some shady reason

and they say the console market is fine
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>>243403794
>r/Halo
Considering how bad r/XboxOne is, I can't even fathom how horrendous that is.

They like Halo 4 don't they?
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>>243403893
She'll just take off the helmet in new comics
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>>243403294
God, is that fake? That's the most compact pile of bullshit I have ever seen in my entire life, if some anon wrote it here I'd scream bait.
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THE PS3 HAS NO GAMES
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>>243403721
Please contain yourself, don't go buying console just for one game.
>>243403750
Supposedly Beast Souls. And if you're naming AAA-shit, PS4 had that Uncharted announcement.
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>>243403801

Did you actually expect ANYTHING groundbreaking from that camera?

I remember buying into the last Kinect ordeal and being pissed at how awful it performed.
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>no mandatory Kinect

This changes everything. The Xbox One is now inarguably equivalent in quality to the PS4.

As a matter of fact, the only difference between the Xbone and the PS4 RIGHT NOW is that people on /v/ will actually defend the PS4.
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>>243404009
Someone needs to draw this.
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>>243403750
>Buying a console after this
Do you not see the amount of regret and anger radiating from people who bought the xbone?
You'd have to be retarded to even think about getting one now.
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>>243403934
It's really inevitable, but I think we're mostly laughing at people who defend this crap in the first place
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Why is MS trying to sell me an underpowered PS4?
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I wish instead of having the kinect be this bulky camera box, and instead of just getting fucking rid of it, they made it just the microphone and voice detection. Cause that part works SUPERBLY well. I love it. But everything else about the kinect is a fucking mess and or joke.
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>>243403893
RIP in pieces. She was the only good thing to come out of this mess.
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>>243401247
This has been my exact thoughts since the moment I began lurking this shithole.

I fucking hate this place. Only here because I actually don't like the Kinect despite buying an Xbone at launch.

Weeaboo shitposting has encompassed this board. I got banned for making a post a while back saying that there should be a /vj/ for Japanese Vidya.

Good thing boards like /pol/ and /tv/ resent aspie weebs.
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Does this mean that sony has to actually try to win the console race now?

I was getting tired of them riding on microsoft's launch blunder while releasing forgettable exclusives and still come out in the lead.
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>>243403723
>>243403789

No just Loss
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>e3
>new ps4 + eye toy bundle for 349
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>>243404106

TV
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>>243404074
I'll do it on friday
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in b4 Sony announces a new slimmer model next year for $300
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>>243404073
>The Xbox One is now inarguably equivalent in quality to the PS4.

Yeah, if you multiply it by 1.5.
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Ok good work MS.

no the PS4 and Xbone are on equal grounds for my sale.

PS4 has better hardware, Xbone has DR3.

My sale will be won or lost at E3, so good luck you jews.
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I'd consider buying one if I couldn't get a PS4, and I'd totally get a PS4 if the online was free and the controller didn't feel like a kid's toy. Wii and PC master chimera reporting; enjoy your shitty generation, faggots.
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>>243404045
She's going to have bandages around her head because she's blind now.
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>>243403875

Nobody cares about old games so that's not an issue.
Homever, scamming honest consumers like me by forcing us to buy device whose support will be dropped is intolerable.
I hope this turn into a shitstorm so I get my money back for that useless toy.
>>
>re announce it on keynote stage
>gets boo'd

E3 just got more exciting
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>>243402524
>Do you want Titanfall
Titanfall is on PC. If you're even considering one of the home consoles without already having a PC you're retarded.
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>>243403893
But the Kinect lives! There's no reason to kill her.
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>>243404009
>xbone tan gets jealous of her blind twin sister all the boys want
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>>243404073
If Sony Ponies now want to claim that the PS4 is more powerful than the Xbox One they must also admit that the 360 was more powerful than the PS3.

It goes both ways, fanboys.
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>>243404190
Even better
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>>243403834
why is it shit?
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>>243403415
Are you really asking why cloud computing is allowed? Are you that dense?
>>243403875
>It shouldn't be at fucking all, considering what is going to happen when MS shuts down the servers for all this shit within the next decade.
All that will happen is the multilplayer servers will no longer work, i.e. like every other console that had its multiplayer servers shut down. Why is this so doom and gloom this time around?
>You do not buy a console that will not function in the future
All 3 "next gen" consoles will function after their servers are shut down.
>>
CASTLE VIDCON WHERE
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>>243404207
>boos
>in present day E3
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>>243403631

Why do faggots always pretend to be expert on things that they know nothing of?
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>>243404141
>PS4
>lowering in price

HAH, good one.
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>yfw Sony ~adds~ their Camera and keeps the price at $399
>touts it as "We actually add value, rather than take it away."
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XBONE Integral Features List:
- always online
- kinect
- live paywall

Whoops.
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>>243398064
>It's either PS4 or Wii-U.

Umm, I think you mean it's Wii U and that's fucking it, at least as far as 8th gen consoles go.
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The xbone and piss4 are both currently garbage.

There is nothing worth playing on either of them.

The wii-u is worse then garbage because it's basically a last gen console with nothing but rehashes no third party support.

Pc is filled with nothing but pixelated indie shit.


Gaming is over. Everyone go home.
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>>243404272
DA CLOUD is used for PROCESSING and some devs will, I guarantee, use it on make or break mechanics of some games, and they will cease to function the day MS shuts down the cloud servers.
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>>243404194

this might be shocking but you are entitled to nothing.
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>>243404214
Hell, Titanfall is on 360 too.
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>>243404141
>Sony will die in my hamster life-time
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>Xbox Record That.

LOL
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>>243404154
Thank you based drawfag. You should probably draw her in a hospital bed being visited by Don Mattrick saying "I've made a mistake"
>>
If I can get the Kinect-less Xbone with a free copy of DR3 I'll buy one.

Unless Capcom announces DR3 for PS4/PC at E3.
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>>243404381
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>243404190
bandages in the shape of an 'X', right?
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>>243403769
>(apple) multiple times
Christ
>revolutionized pc industry
This was going to happen and its a shame Microsoft were the ones to do it, they robbed, and did many things that should be illegal.
And thats why we have been at a halt for over 20 years
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>>243401301
>shitlords
back 2 reddit
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>>243404124
>Does this mean that sony has to actually try to win the console race now?
Yes, now let's hope they weren't retarded enough to believe they could continue to be lazy fucks, expecting the PS4 to sell on its own just because it's not the Xbone.

Healthy competition is always good for the consumer.
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>>243404207
>>243404303
Oh there'll be booing.
They will probably invite fans along with press in, in hopes to get a good crowd reaction to some of their stuff, but it goes both ways.

Remember the Battlefield 4 presentation last year? When it fucked up during the Xbone presentation, people were booing and yelling "Xbox sucks" and stuff
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>>243401510
Because they got away with it, ridiculously huge install base from the Xbox360 beating the shit out of the PS3 for a long fucking time. So people had no other option.

Now nobody has a fucking XBONE so they need to sweeten the everliving shit out of the pot to get people buying their shit.

They lost super hard for the first few years of this console cycle, who knows how it will end up. Probably around even like last time.
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>>243404234
Being xbone-tan is suffering.
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>>243401247
>the Xbox 360 did very well in Japan
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>>243404072
Yea but this one is actually pretty great. As a programmer I've worked on quite a few great health applications using the new kinect (related to sport therapy) The things they could have done with it in the games could have been good, but now no one wants to since more than half of userbase won't get one anyways.
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>>243404232
I'm almost crying for her /v/. It's not her fault she's NSA spyware attached to a shitty console, she has heart and tried her best.
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I bet the Kinect's thrilled to be free of all that dead weight.
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>>243404280

soon.
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>>243404121
Except /pol/ is way more fucking weeaboo than /v/, are you kidding
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>>243404247
Only that's not true at all, because the PS3 and 360 were quite different hardware wise, while the Xbone and PS4 are very similar in design, the PS4 just has a faster memory interface and a faster GPU.
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>>243404303
You don't remember the AT&T Vita blunder from a couple years ago?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cZ67R5tRfU
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>>243404398
>DA CLOUD is used for PROCESSING and some devs will, I guarantee, use it on make or break mechanics of some games, and they will cease to function the day MS shuts down the cloud servers.
And guess what, the fault in that situation falls on the developers of the game, not MS.
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>>243404040
They actually don't.

The bigger shills do, but everyone is pretty much aware of how bad Halo 4's MP is. It's not necessarily that they "like" the game, but that they place more emphasis on single player than MP.

Literally nobody I know who values MP over single player thinks Halo 4 is a good game.
>>
>>243404247
It had a better GPU but clock for clock the CPU on the PS3, though crazy as fuck, was more powerful. The ram was also an issue. But at the end of the road there, the PS3 started getting the better multiplats finally, and before that, half way into the gen, the PS3 already had exclusives tailored to the hardware that were not possible on a 360.

When devs actually worked with the hardware it could produce technically better games. TLoU would bi impossible on the 360.
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>>243399245
>tfw your free xbox spies on you.
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>>243404447
>>
>All my xbox friends already bought PS4s
>People are now buying PS4s to play with friends
>it's already too late for Microsoft.
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>>243404121
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>>243395821

inspired by sony again?
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>>243404121
>this has been my exact though
>opinion discard


Typical anti-weeaboo moron
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>>243395821
Same price as ps4
still weaker
now with a broken library of games you can't play and features you can't use

hire is it not still fucked?
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>>243404579
Yes it is, admit it fanboy.

The 360 ran games better than the PS3, the PS4 runs games better than the Xbox One.
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>>243404546
It did because there was shit tons of VN for 360

And Japans are casuals as fuck, They lead the Mobile Gaming Market
>>
So we can agree the Xbone is officially better than the PS4, right?

Better Controller
More/Better exclusives
Same multiplats
Essentially identical hardware
Same price
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>>243403220
Like when the 3DS got a huge price drop?
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>>243404121
Have you never considered getting the fuck out and going to a normie site where you won't have weeaboos?
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>>243404332
>This kills Sony
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>>243401247
Anon, it's worst selling console in Japan. You can't be serious.
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>>243404748

>>furaffinity
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>>243404009
>Xbone tan with her sensor broken
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How far we've come in a year

http://youtu.be/KbWgUO-Rqcw
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HAHAHAH
I just talked to somebody I know that bought the XBone day 1 and he said this is a negative step since now "the Kinect will just be a gimmick".

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
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>>243404748
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS
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>>243402948
she just doesn't have her helmet now
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>>243404748
IT'S TIME
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>>243404121
>saying /v/ is more shit than /pol/

Come on now. /v/ is horrible but /pol/ is complete aids.
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>>243398891
Isntn platinum making a xbone exclusive?
>>
GUYS
GUYS
LISTEN
GUYS
LISTEN
NO REALLY
GUYS
LISTEN TO ME
GUYS

castle vidcons
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>>243404518

>Expecting there will be booing after doing everything the consumer wanted

Holy crap. The delusions of Sony fans are getting bigger and bigger each day.

>>243404332

>People on /v/ shilling for Spy Cameras
>For free
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>>243395821
My real question is why announce it now?

Why not wait until E3 when they need the goodwill. They have been absolutely horrible at marketing and business decisions.

Now Sony gets yet another break to shit in their cereal by doing something ridiculous.
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>>243403407
Good for them I guess? I am not like those people and I don't buy a console to play multiplats when I already have a PC for that.
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>>243402875
Oglaf
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Thank god my bosses lowered the price I was scared to lose my job shilling on here and no one was buying
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She didn't even need to use the katana.

To think Xbone-tan's dad would blind her himself... God knows what's going on at that house, and cellar.
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>>243404838
IT'S BEEN A FUCKING YEAR??

WHAT THE FUCK OH MY GOD I'LL GO KILL MYSELF
>>
This is great, now the Xbone is simply a mediocre console instead of a consumer rights disaster. Still not ever buying one, but now I won't feel nearly as bad if it starts to sell.
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>>243404668
>still weaker
>implying hardware matters with consoles

>now with a broken library of games you can't play
There are very few games that make Kinect mandatory, to describe the library as broken is a gross over exagerration
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>>243403769
They did everything in their reach to actively destroy any open source and free development out there. Jew everyone with Directx ("you need windows 7 to run the new Dx :^)").
No, fuck you, microsoft did no good.
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>>243404725

Oh look you are pulling shit out of your ass again.

Why don't you back up everything you just said? Find proof to convince us that you are not full of shit? Unless you do, enjoy being ridiculed
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>>243404272
You must be, really stupid to not notice whats wrong in the image.
Unless you are tech literate which wouldn't be surprising since we are on /v/.
Everything they said in that image is not possible.
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>>243404943
>My real question is why announce it now?

someone said that sony have to reveal their financial status in a days

also do you really want to have another no-games E3?
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>>243404702
>The 360 ran games better than the PS3

that was only true mid gen when lazy devs would just port the version they made for XBOX rather then code properly for the PS3

Late gen many PS3 games ran better or had distinct advantages.
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>>243395821
If this were real there'd be a sticky.
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>>243404763
>normie

Do you honestly not realize that you're just a fucking millennial hipster?
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>>243404984
Shouldn't the PS4 be blind too?

Also it's losing Sony's money, shouldn't she being killing her master by mistake?
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>>243404668

Oh it's still doomed to play second banana to the PS4 much like the PS3 was for so many years, but if they can woo the right devs to make exclusives for it can at least hope to achieve Gamecube status.
>>
THIS IS GREAT NEWS!

I mean, yeah, none of the Xbone games have interested me that much so far, but now Titanfall and Sunset Overdrive are looking a bit more appealing to me now.

By the way /v/, get ready.
Now that this has happened, expect the number of xbone exclusive title shill threads to increase, cause now its mainly about the games, instead of "which ones isn't more expensive and makes me buy the kinect"
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>>243405138
>he missed the sticky
>>
>>243405064
Its going to be another no-games E3 regardless.

Guess they wanted to get ahead of sony's sales figures then so share-holders don't all abandon ship all at once.
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>>243405104

lol only in your dreams pony.
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>>243404725
>It did because there was shit tons of VN for 360
>I heard this on /v/ so it must mean its true!
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>>243405159
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>>243400163
The same people that bought it before. Kinect sold remarkably well
>>
>>243404729
>Better Controller
Opinion.
>More/Better exclusives
Actually less exclusives. Also whether or not they're better is an opinion.
>Essentially identical hardware
Except weaker.
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>>243405265
die in a fire
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>>243405104
Dark Souls II and Dragon's Dogma ran better on the 360.
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>>243405343
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>>243404725
The Idolm@ster was the best selling game for the 360 in Japan by far. When the sequel got ported a year later in Japan it far outsold both 360 versions. Now the new one is skipping Xbox completely. That should tell you how poorly the 360 did in Japan.
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>>243401895

Is it weird that I think saying shit to your stuff all the time would be much more tedious than pressing buttons?
>>
>>243405212
>but now Titanfall and Sunset Overdrive are looking a bit more appealing to me now.

Wow you have some pure shit interests and tastes then if you like those games.
>>
>>243404702
I have no problem admitting that the 360 was console better designed for games, just look at multi-platforms like Red Dead Redemption that ran at a higher resolution with better anti-aliasing and higher quality assets.

The 360's advantages over the PS3 were different than what we have now though because the PS3 had some advantages over the 360, for example more memory bandwidth, better CPU performance, and a different set of APIs. The Bone is simply slower than the PS4 in every way that matters.

Doesn't really matter though, when Sony goes bankrupt at the end of the year the Xbone will be the only "next-gen" console on the market despite it's massive blunders.
>>
>>243405329
>Opinion
Based on features it is technically better
>Actually less exclusives. Also whether or not they're better is an opinion.
Currently it has more exclusives
>Except weaker.
Not noticeably so
>>
>>243405196
Nah, Kinect was "integral" To Xbox One for long time. Now they took it off.
PS4's camera thing wasn't mandatory.
>>
God dammit microshekel all you had to do was make a realistic boxing sim for Kinect. I would have bought a console. You couldn't even do that.
>>
>>243402263
>I will never own a WiiU because of the shit tablet.
Well, I'm sorry for you, because you're going to miss out on some really great games.
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>>243405526
>Not noticeably so
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>>243404847
That gif gave me cancer.
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>>243405324
How does the free man expect to do any of the things he wants without any income?
>>
>>243404763
>normie site

You do realize "normie" site are more heavily moderated and the behavior of these anti-weeaboo faggots will get them banned very quickly right? Where do you think all those arrogant forum faggots who got banned from being a huge piece of shit go to?
>>
>Xdrones eat shit so hard that they upload their scat porn to derail threads
>>
>>243405257
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-grand-theft-auto-5-face-off
>>
>>243405526
>Based on features it is technically better
Doesn't it still require batteries? And don't they have pretty much same amount of buttons that do same things?
>>
if Microsoft did this a year ago we wouldn't be here shitting on it.
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>>243405324
Strawman as fuck
>>
Its over, Microsoft won
>>
>>243404623
>When devs actually worked with the hardware it could produce technically better games
And this is why Wii U games that aren't made by Nintendo look barely better than 360/PS3 games, developers don't bother putting the time in to do it right even though the console is noticeably more powerful.
>>
>>243404272
>Are you really asking why cloud computing is allowed? Are you that dense?
It should illegal to say shit like that and get away with it.
>>
>>243400037
>>243400648

>people still not knowing what hacking means.
>>
>>243405560
Yeah, like Sonic Lost World and Arkham City: Armored Edition. So many great games.
>>
>"The Wii U is nothing but fucking casual shit and gimmicks holy shit"
>"The PS4 has a FUCKING FACEBOOK SHARE BUTTON are you real"
>"No Microsoft, I don't want to pay more for worse quality games and the fucking kinect"
>Kinectless system for $399
>Suddenly, Microsoft's console is the one with gimmicks.

So guys, what games would Microsoft need to release to get you to buy a Xbone over a PS4?

For me, there is only one real answer:

Nothing. None of their exclusives interest me, and all of their multiplats will be inferior graphically when compared to the PS4. What's left?
>>
>>243399791

le downvote :^)
>>
>>243405682
>Doesn't it still require batteries?
I knew that was going to come up. Requiring batteries means that the controller will be more reliable in the long run. Batteries die in a controller like the PS4? Shit out of luck. Batteries die in the Xbox one controller? Just replace them. It isn't that big of an issue either way, though.
> And don't they have pretty much same amount of buttons that do same things?
The PS4 and Xbone controller share buttons, yes. But the buttons of the controller are better on the Xbone. The triggers, analog sticks, and buttons are all of better quality on the Xbone controller. And then there's the stupid light bar on the PS4 that only works to drain the batter quicker.
>>
>>243405362
Dragon dogma looks even worse (screen tearing fucking everywhere) on the 360 and the FPS are marginally more stable. I want people to stop saying this bullshit, I play the game through and through on both consoles (same TV, same display configuration) and, to be honest, it looks and runs like shit on both.
Most games did run better on the 360, some performed the same and some were even worse.
>>
>>243404595
>And guess what, the fault in that situation falls on the developers of the game, not MS.
How is it not still at least partially the fault of the people who made the game and/or made the decision to use that technology?

Just because MS didn't hold a gun to their heads doesn't mean they weren't fully aware of the fact that their game will be completely unplayable when those servers go down when they made the decision to use them. Same reason you shouldn't buy games like Titanfall, at least not until they're dirt cheap. The game will be be a useless frisbee in a few years when EA closes the servers. And its quite clear they'll axe anything that's not maintaining a high enough population, even if its only a few years old.
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>>243399641
Just because they're not profiting (yet) doesn't mean they're not screwing you over.
>>
>>243403553
Typical cuntsole faggot logic, in a couple of more years the pc parts will be even more powerful and cheaper than your shitstation which will be ancient by then.

You poor fat virgins can't even afford more than one shitty console. Enjoy being on that shitty platform for years to come. I have a ps4 and I can't even play anything on it because all the games are shit. It literally has no games.
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>>243400527
Because they're either spiteful or they're worried Kinect won't be featured and developed as much in games because it's no longer forced.
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>>243401247
Can I laugh at the retarded post too, /v/?
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>>243401247

>the Xbox 360 did very well in Japan
>>
>Kinectless Xbox One $399
>PS4 $399

Sooo.....when are these things actually going to have games? Never?
>>
>>243395821
They're going to have to drop the price on all those Kinect bundles still rotting in stores because fucking NO ONE is going to buy them when the $400 console is right there next to them.
>>
>>243402412

>had

?
>>
>>243406139
>How is it not still at least partially the fault of the people who made the game and/or made the decision to use that technology?
Servers are going to go down, this is a fact of life. It's the same with if a game is multiplayer only and the devs shut down the server. If a developer felt the need to create mechanics in a single player game that would only work with the cloud and didn't create anything to compensate for it not being their (when the cloud servers are shut down or you're playing offline) then the blame should be put on them.
>>
>>243406021
None, because i never plan on buying an xbone
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>D-dad I can't read the game.
>I can't see it at all.
>>
>>243406078
>Batteries die in a controller like the PS4? Shit out of luck
You can replace the battery on PS3 and Wii-U controllers, so I don't see why you couldn't on PS4.
>But the buttons of the controller are better on the Xbone.
Every time this came up with 360 and PS3 I disagreed since I just liked dualshock layout better.
But haven't tested Xbox One controller yet. Haven't seen it in stores anywhere here.
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