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Koukaku No Pandora

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Magical Fingering for the World Peace
coming soon
the first big yuri tittle of 2016
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I will put All the spoiler I had
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>>1947726
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>>1947713
I'm quite hyped. I hear Studio Gokumi's doing this.
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I've read up to vol 6 and am looking forward to anime.

Because it's Shirow's concept, the setting is like a tech prequel to GitS's (but a lighthearted one that doesn't take itself very seriously)

Cyberbrains are just starting to be adopted (stuff like regulations are still in the way of them becoming widespread)
Thermoptic camo is in the prototype stages
Even the highest end artificial limbs and bodies are pretty obviously artificial
AIs as advanced as Clarion's are almost unheard of (an expert assumes she must have some remote operator)
People with full body prosthetics are rare and Nene is one of a small number who have adapted well
That alone made Nene a person of interest to leading cyberneticists, but as the story progresses it also seems she's the first human with an instinct for hacking
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>>1947745
Why does Uzal tell Nene that Clarion is a cyborg? And does Nene ever find out Clarion is actually an android?
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>>1947755
>Why does Uzal tell Nene that Clarion is a cyborg?
She doesn't exactly. She just says her body is the same.

>And does Nene ever find out Clarion is actually an android?
I'm not sure whether she thinks Clarion has an organic brain or not. That might not be important to her.
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>>1947745
>Draw a boy, call it a girl and now it's yuri
I'm so fucking sick and tired of your shit Japan.
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>>1947783
>DFC = boy
Damn you're a retard.
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>>1947783
The other way round is annoying. This is not. Even before seeing how girly she is aside from DFC.
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>>1947783
>>1947793
I never saw Nene as a boy. She seems pretty feminine to me.
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>>1947745
>dem joints
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>>1947795
>>1947795
Just realized nene = boy in Spanish... Now I can't get that out of my head
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>>1947783
You're way to used with bishounen characters that looks like a girl.
Can't even recognize a girl anymore.
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>>1947800
Japanese and Spanish have a really weird connection with words that mean completely different things.
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So Nene is a cyborg and Clarion a gynoid. Cool.

Can a good anon refresh my memory and say why is Nene a cyborg? Accident?
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>>1947823
>Accident?
Yes. I think her parents died in that accident too.
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>>1947823
They refer to it as an accident (事故), but her desire for world peace makes me think it wouldn't be a surprise if there's more to it.

They were able to give her a prosthetic body because she already had a cyberbrain as part of treating some disease called Pyxis syndrome.
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Chinese scans up to chapter 26:
http://manhua.dmzj.com/hkdpdl/
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Sure has a daisuki in there.

Beloved person indeed.
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I hype for this so much, don't let me be disappoint please Gokumi
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>>1947783
Believe me, I hate it when Japan does this but I don't think it applies to Nene. I think it's just in a few illustrations that she might look slightly boyish but she's definitely a cute girl in looks and personality to me. If she used "boku" and acted all stoic while fangirls sperged out over her then I'd be right with you. She's not that type at all though.

I do wish that either she was shorter or that Clarion was taller though. I like it when yuri couples are the same height. It's not a huge deal though since they're still really cute together. Just my preference. Incredibly glad they're both flat though.
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>>1947783
No. keep in mind that in this series, most guys look like guys, not bishonen, so Nene looks obviously female.

Before any anon cries about this page, the context is this:

The older dude noticed that Nene was feeling down, so he asks her why. Turns out Nene feels that Clarin is mad at her, so Nene's worried sick. So the dude asks her what she wants to do about it, and Nene ays save her, she wants to save Clarin, cause she likes her!


In other words, it's extremely related to a yuri thread.

See earlier panel where she uses daisuki, which happens when she finally sees Clarin again.
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>>1948001
>>1948588
Why did she call her Clarin? It's a nickname?
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>>1948767
Yeah, it's her nickname for Clarion. Besides being shorter, the hiragana rin has the impression of a cute name ending (she also gave Cla-chan a go before settling on Clarin).
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>>1948767
Clarin es el mejor periodico argentino
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>>1948788
Mugino isn't even putting his posts through Google Translate anymore
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>>1948790
You foolish cretin. Even the most backwards ruffian would easily recognize the vast difference between that gentleman of anonymous persuasion and I.
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Delicious trans-human yuri.

I hope I get to experience this IRL some day.
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>licensed by funi

Damn.
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I love the heroine. She's just so adorable, and gets over "but we're both girls" in seconds.
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So does this have similar wacky moments like Excel Saga?
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>>1950043
Yeah, some. The journalist is the most Excel Saga-esque element, but there's also stuff like a man who is pretty much black Kabapu.
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>>1948972
One day, we will have vibrating tongues.
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>>1950043
Yes.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn2ZB9v22U4
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>>1947729
That scene with the androids in volume 4...

Amazing how far Nene goes when someone dares to hurt Clarion.
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>>1947726
Is the cat prince thing something that comes up often? If so, can you post pages or at least the full sized one in pic related?
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>>1951779
It's not so easy to hurt Clarion though. She's one badass android loli.
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>>1951785
Only a couple of times
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>>1951791
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>>1951792
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>>1951791
>>1951792
>>1951793
It doesn't fit her at all. I guess she's not drawn in these scenes like a prince out of a shoujo manga though so I'll let it slide. Really wish they didn't do this though.
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Look's like they are having server problems with the official website, it's been down for almost 2 days already.
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>>1950043
To me it feels like the Excel Saga manga more than anything else.

Wouldn't surprise me if Shirow's just lending his name and some concepts and Rikdo does the heavy lifting.
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>>1951809
>Wouldn't surprise me if Shirow's just lending his name and some concepts and Rikdo does the heavy lifting.
That's pretty much how it is, considering Shirow is credited only as "concept creator", not "author".
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>>1951809
The manga is credited like Concept: Shirow, Manga: Rikdo. And each volume ends with Shirow talking about how his concept got salvaged and posting some of the art he did, saying stuff like how glad he is Rikdo redesigned the characters and talking about what was different and what bits carried over.
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>>1951814
Original Nene looks pretty good, if a little generic. Original Clarion could be better.
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>>1951814
Both redesigns are massive improvements.
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>>1951798
I kinda dig it desu, always love 'fem' types being the more dominant or what have you in the relationship. Creates that every yummy gap moe. Even if this one is a stoic hero type at the same time.
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>>1951814
To be truly Shirow, they both need to be covered in enough body oil to legal qualify as a deep fryer.
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>>1951814
>Shirow's Clarion design had human(-ish) ears and cat ears like they were just stuck on
I thought the creator of the Puma Sisters would know better
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I miss old shirow art.
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>>1950051
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Endcard!
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Raws out
https://www.nyaa.eu/?page=view&tid=772511
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ending is very cute
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How much yuri is this? I read that this was a full female cast but in Wikipedia I see that there are some male characters like "Robert Altman" or "Ian Krutz"
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>>1955064
The yuri is between the two main characters, Nene and Clarion.

It's not a full female cast, it's a setting with male characters, some prominent.
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Subs when
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>>1955118
funi rip?
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>>1955122
Is that one legit?
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HorribleSubs out
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>>1955077
>it's a setting with male characters

Granted most of them are not humanoid
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>>1955140
I'm glad I didn't give up on the waiting and go to sleep.

http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=772614
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Hardcore.
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>>1955170
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>>1955173
How can they get away with showing that shit on TV? That's some hardcore finger action.
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>>1955178

It's artificial. You can also show a girl holding a dildo in her hand on TV, right? This is the same.
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So this will be the only yuri related show this season?

I feel lonely already remembering last season.
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>Cla-ring

ONE JOB
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>Pantie shots and fingering fine cos it's robots
Gotta love that TMNT logic.
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>>1955192
Not at all surprising.
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>full body cyborg
I don't know, man.

Androids are robots designed to look like humans. Cyborgs are humans with robot bits.
This girl is a robot with human bits. I don't know if that's still a cyborg, regardless if she was a human at first. She's basically Robocop.
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>>1955198

Looks kind low budget
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>>1955077
>It's not a full female cast, it's a setting with male characters, some prominent.

Not bait, entirely correct.

Of course, those guys are actually quite old, or obviously completely and utterly evil.
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Pandoradio
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>>1955218
Robocop is a cyborg though. I think that as long as you're not completely artificial you still qualify as a 'cyborg'.
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>>1955218
>>1955231
By most definitions a cyborg would be an organism deeply integrated with an artificial control or communication system. I think the original papers that used the term described enhancing a human body with integrated biomonitors and regulation systems to help it deal with a space environment.

A human brain and possibly some other parts in a (cute) robotic body is definitely a cyborg.
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Does anyone else get CocoChino vibes from these two?
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Didn't even know there was a thread for it. My filters removed it cause of the "reasons".
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>>1955253
Except I don't think Cocoa would ever actually stick her finger in Chino's loli vag.
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>>1955257
She would if Chino guided it there.
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>>1955255
Nobody would hold it against you.
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AOTS
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>>1955218
She's more like Genos from OPM
Only that she's qt lesbian loli, so she's much better
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lewd
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I like how the manga starts out
>This is a world were some serious shit is going down
>This story says fuck that we are going to show you how these two cute girls meet.
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So do they, like, have real vagoos? How will they fuck?
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>>1955407
>How will they fuck?
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>>1955407
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>>1955417
>a homosexual adaptor
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>>1955439
Fire inspectors hate them! Learn one GAY TRICK that drives insurance companies crazy!
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>>1955407
/u/ know what to do, Nene
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I already love this series after just one episode of the anime and one volume of the manga. Nene and Clarion make such cute girlfriends together and the ending was really cute as well.
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>>1955501
A-Are those tubes connected?
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>>1955517
You tell me.
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>>1955257
She'd stick more than just her fingers in there.
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Are we ignoring the fact that Uzal keeps a harem of angry, underaged (cyborg?) girls?
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>>1955537
Uzal was already known as the best character, there's no need to reiterate it.
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>>1955537
Pretty sure they are her human lab assistants who she forces to cosplay, they don't seem to have ball joints.
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Cyborg babies when?
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>>1955537
Why didn't they change out of the costumes if they hate them so much?
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>>1955573
If I were Uzal, I'd burn all their regular clothes.
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>>1955573
>implying they had other clothes left
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>>1955537
I hope they keep showing up, these girls are hilarious. But why "underaged"?
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>>1955586
You know what I love about these underage girls? I get older, they stay the same age.
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>>1955178
Not amused after Silverlink got away with Prisma lolis literally French kissing and heavy petting each other. And this show only implies fingering cause not real vagoo.
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>>1955610
>Prisma lolis
I wasn't amused every time the show reminds us that the ones doing the kissing want le oniichan's le dick.
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What did I just watch??
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I sincerely believe that world peace could be achieved if more girls fingered other girls on a daily basis.

>>1955703
AOTY by the first episode. Here's hoping it will continue to be this entertaining, 2016 yuri is off to a great start, let's pray it keeps up.
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>>1955610
>Why is my non-hentai not hentai?
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>>1955537
those are human
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>>1955673
Remember that she never ever going to get it.
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>>1955540
Robot babies maybe. Nene said that her appearance was reconstructed from her parents' genetic material. They can just make a new body by running the same simulation with the two mothers' DNA, and then pop an AI into it.
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Is Koukaku No Pandora even a yuri show if both the girls are cyborgs incapable of emotion?
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>>1955855
>are cyborgs incapable of emotion
What?
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>>1955855
Did you actually watch the show?
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>>1955855
>robot girls cannot love robot girls
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>>1955860
no.

i just don't want another Cross Ange "MERELY PRETENDING" thing.
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>>1955904
You didn't watch Cross Ange either. Ange was never a lesbian and the Hilda "pretending" was just pretending to be submissive to Zola, she was always a lesbian and she declared to Ange. Chris and Rosalie were an official couple.
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I really enjoyed the first episode and I hope that the quality of the coming episodes will be the same or better.

And I like the characters that have been introduced so far. I hope that the yuri will continue in this fashion.
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>>1955855
Yes it is. And both of them have feelings and emotions.
Now shut up and just watch first episode. ^_^
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>>1955932
>^_^
Back to tumblr you go.
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>>1955938
Wow.
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>>1955704
>I sincerely believe that world peace could be achieved if more girls fingered other girls on a daily basis.

But wouldn't that create conflict because there are people who hate that?
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>>1955945
Hopefully people will then learn to mind their own business instead of childishly bitching about others' tastes.
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>>1955904
What does Cross Ange have to do with this?
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>>1955977
>even /u/ AOTY seems doubtful
More likely this is current season yuri AOTS, since it's only yuri related anime yet so it wins by default.
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>>1955904
I hate cross Ange, and read the entire manga of Pandora that is available.

It's not like Ange, no male love interest ever enters the picture, and the only romantic development so far is Nene having fantasies of Clarin being her prince(ss), complete with daisuki.

>>1955938
Anon, I know you're a young, faux-edgy teenager that desperately wants to be seen as hardcore and adult, but...

...smileys were in use before tumblr even existed, especially that style of smileys. Try not embarassing yourself this much.
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Friendly reminder that this is the Koukaku No Pandora thread, please take any off-topic and board culture discussion to where it's appropriate, thank you.
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>>1956011
I never said what height it was at.
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>>1955924
>Cla-ring

Will they fix this?
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Do not fuck with Clarin, or nene fucks with you.

After hacking everything you have at once. Hope they get to animating this part of the manga.

We might be in luck and get to the juicy stuff, episode 1 was over half of the first volume already.
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>>1955598
>You and your yuri waifu will never stay side by side through the ages as androids, watching time pass while the only thing that never changes is your love.
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>>1956018
To be fair, it's a valid stylistic choice. Nene uses katakana and hiragana both with that nickname, which is impossible to replicate in english without resorting to things like Cla-ring.

Much prefer Clarin.
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>>1956021
It's not yuri if one them is a cyborg that's been programmed to be gay.
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>>1956026
Cyborgs aren't programmed, they have human brain.
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>>1956022
The thing is, Cla-ring sounds different from Clarin, it would've made more sense to keep it faithful to the pronunciation.
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>>1956026
>programmed
>not converted to yuridom by installing gent/u/
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I quite like that both anime and manga make it completely obvious that both Clarion and Nene have human brains, and are not programmed to be gay or straight.

This should help filter out the usual retards pretending it's not yuri for retarded reasons.
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>>1956033
I thought that Clarion doesn't have a human brain. She just has an incredibly advanced AI with free will.
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>>1956033
How far have you read into the untranslated manga?
Because I've heard that it is later revealed that Clarion is a robot/android, unlike Nene.

Not that it changes anything yuri-wise, since she clearly has her own emotions, and she'll develop feelings for Nene on her own.
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>>1956037
>>1956038
>>1956033
Clarion is actually a highly developed AI that can make her own decisions, and does so. Her feelings for Nene become apparent in the burning building with the Kabapu-knockoff during volume 4, where she goes against a direct command to save Nene.

This continues in volume 5 and 6, where Nene hamstrings her own fighting capability simply to ensure that she does not kill anyone, because she believes she only has the right to be at Nene's side if nobody dies.


In other words, it's even more yuri this way.
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>>1956042
That sounds very heartwarming, I hope the anime gets to those points.

Thanks for letting us know.
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>>1956009
>almost complete free speech (little censorship)
That's a good joke.

>>1956012
>please take any off-topic and board culture discussion to where it's appropriate
You can't discuss these things anywhere on this board which is why it keeps boiling over into various threads.
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>>1956063
I only notice this now but Nene dresses like a fucking retard.

Why would you wear a short sleeved shirt WITH a tie?
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>>1956066
T-that's my old school uniform.
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>>1956066

Its good enough for KOF.
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>>1956051
Imagine if Nene was full on energy and connected to empty Clarion to recharge her.
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>>1956085
>You will never have your loli cyborg yuri waifu recharge on your energy

why live
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>>1956026
That's not the case here, but that sounds like a great idea for a yuri mind control rape doujin.
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>>1956103
The brown scientists is reprogramming cyborgs to be gay.

She is clearly the enemy here.
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>>1956066
her dorkiness is cute
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>>1956048
The scene in volume 4 really is the turning point, I feel.

Until then, Clarion can be argued to just follow orders, although we can already see that she really cares a lot about Nene. But right there, she really shows her own wishes really well. And the best part is that it looks like we'll see it animated.
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>>1956070
Were you from Usuzan?
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>>1956113
>her dorkiness is cute

No.

Yuri dork girls are the worst. Yuri sluts are superior, and I think most of /u/ agrees.
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>>1956123
No, the best is if a yuri dork gets on top of a yuri slut, and ravishes her rightly using hard SM.
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>>1956123
>Yuri sluts
Examples please
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>>1956126
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>>1956126
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>>1956116
This is a bit off-topic but, does Saki ever lose?

I always wanted to try reading Saki, but I hate MCs who always win.
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>>1956141
In the story, the main form of Mahjong they play is a team version in teams of 5 where the total team score is counted.

Saki's on the Kiyosumi team and there are times where Kiyosumi wasn't the top scoring team but still advanced (two teams advance every game in the National tournament) and when Saki herself scored less points in a round than one of her opponents.
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>>1956141
Yes and no. Saki really doesn't "lose" in that she rarely even plays to win.

Ironically, Saki actually scores very low in every round. In fact, she'll frequently intentionally lose hands so that her final score as the round ends isn't too high.
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So no kisses?
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>>1956171
>So no kisses?

not a yuri show, so no.
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>>1956171
>>1956172
Too soon to tell.
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>>1956172
I guess nowadays girl-girl love interests need to keep kissing each other since Vol. 1 to count as yuri.

Silly me, I thought that stuff usually happened at the end.
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>>1956176
I don't remember any kiss in those 6 volumes.
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>>1956181
Sakura Trick is the line. If it's not that much kissing it's essentially hetshit.
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>>1956185
Are there even any yuri series that has that much series except maybe Swap<=>Swap? There seems to be an inverse correlation with how serious the romance is and how much kissing happens in a yuri.
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>>1956181
There was already some fingering and data exchange. A kiss should be normal thing for them.
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>>1956189
You should look into yuri doujins. Those have a lot of kissing and more.
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>>1956066
A tie works with everything so I see nothing wrong here.
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>>1956227
Literally a dork.

A DORK.
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>>1956183
>they have to kiss to be gay
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>>1956264
A kiss is always nice and a confirmation for the non believers.
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>>1956264
Girls are more open to PDA in Japan, so holding hands/hugging isn't enough evidence to attest to the veracity of the claim that they're lesbians.

Kissing, however, is.
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>>1956316
And what they say is too, there's enough dialogue to conclude they are, without the necessity of kissing.
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Clarion strong
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>>1956227
>>1956244
A pair of glasses would complete the look.
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>>1956348
It might, but I prefer it as it is right now
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why no more manga translation?
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>>1956400
Licensed.
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>>1956268
>>1956316
Let's be honest: if either of them was male, would you doubt for a second that there are romantic feelings involved?
It would be your typical boy-meets-girl story that anyone can see where it is going.

Contrary to popular belief, lesbians don't need more evidence than heterosexuals to prove that they are in love; that's called discrimination.
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>>1956316
How about blushing, implying sexual acts and putting your finger into the womb?
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>>1956316
>Girls are more open to PDA in Japan
No
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>In an age when large-scale natural disasters frequently happen all over the world, when cyborgs and autonomous robots are beginning to appear on the market in technologically advanced nations, and major world powers compete for technology and resources, the divide between rich and poor grows and the future for the poor looks bleak. In this transitional stage, everyone wanders around in a self-indulgent daze and the way out isn't clear... This is the story of how two cybernetically enhanced girls meet.

This description doesn't really describe the show, to be honest. Except for the last sentence.
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>>1956531
If either of them was male and this was indeed going where everybody can see this is going, we would have more evidence at some point. Complaining that yuri fans want yuri couples to prove themselves more than het couples is missing the forest for the trees: anime and manga media have not yet reached the point where they present their yuri and het pairings on equal footing. If more direct evidence is not needed for the couples to prove themselves, then why het ones usually end up getting some anyway and yuri ones rarely do?

And as an aside, if an everyone-can-see-it het couple doesn't kiss or get a "now dating/married" epilogue or something like that, rest assured that hetfans would spill as much ink as we usually do discussing whether or not it was legit.
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>>1956531
Because het and yuri relationships are not equal. Girl can be portrayed as close with eachother without any romantic feelings.
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>>1956541
That description left out one important line.

http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/koukaku_no_pandora_ghost_urn_ch01#4
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>>1956544
Read the manga more. There is plenty of that there, some of it shown in this very thread.

Things exist even when you can't read them, anon.
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>>1956556
Except the same applies to boys and girls, how do you know romantic feelings won't be portrayed? It has only been 1 episode.
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>>1956627
Our lord and savior.
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>this is the only /u/ related anime this season
>this is the only non-het anime this season

Why is this allowed?
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>>1956625
How anyone can have any doubts after that ED boggles my mind.

>>1956650
Shit seasons happen all the time. At least the one show we have is good.
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>>1956662
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>>1956663
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>>1956665
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>>1956660
We may very well live to see the day a show about two lesbians, who openly declare their romantic love for one another, openly display romantic and sexual affection towards one another and have sex. And there WILL be people who will find some kind of nuance to twist until they can say "meh, not yuri".
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>>1956668
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>>1956672
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>>1956675
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>>1956539
>implying sexual acts and putting your finger into the womb?

There is nothing sexual there.

Girls don't jam fingers into each other's wombs.
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>>1956676
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>>1956625
>how do you know romantic feelings won't be portrayed
I don't know. Still, there was probably nothing in manga cause someone would already post it. This is also comedy series so they can downplay it all as not serious.

In the end all we will probably get is some hand holding, hugs and blushing, without anything romantic, that is open for interpretation.
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>>1956678
Not organic ones. Lesbian robots and cyborgs on the other hand...
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>>1956682
There's plenty posted in this thread, just under spoilers because it's rude to post spoilers for the anime only people.

This is Gokumi after all, most of their shows have plenty of romantic stuff besides what you listed, no reason for this to be any different.
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>>1956671
I hate trolls
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>>1956671
It's not yuri unless both girls are married and scissoring 5 times a day in their own house while having at least 3 IPS babies.
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>>1956671
Already happened.
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>>1956693
It's a pity that magical girls can't have a real confession of love with a romantic kiss.

Oh wait...
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>>1956696
Troll
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>>1956316
Please, otaku shit

Are you in a relationship?

Your opinion is nerd
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>>1956699
>two girls holding hands in Nippon
>must be lesbians who want to spend the rest of their lives together
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>>1956697
Why? Is it bad expecting from Nanofate some scenes like between Minato and Subaru?

Nanoha and Fate are apparently so deep in love they rise a daughter together, have a home and years of relationship yet some random seasonal series has more romance only because it's het.

And you know all yuri series like YuYuYu, Symphogear, Madoka, etc all follow Nanoha route, while things like Pleiades, Sailor Moon, CCS have real love confessions.
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>>1956693
No kiss or confession.
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>>1956702
YuYuYu is not over yet.
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>>1956693
>>1956696
>>1956697
>>1956702
Not this shit again.
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>>1956706
Hinata will get eaten and Wakaba will get a dick so she can have descendants. Don't kid yourself.

Also you ignored all my points.
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>>1956708
That's is NoWaYu, NoWaYu is a setup for the next season of YuYuYu, with the couple that matters, Tougou and Yuuna.

And I'm not the original anon you're replying, I just don't like that you're grouping YuYuYu with those other series.
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Desist.
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>/u/: this isn't really yuri
>/a/: this is yuri

It's not just Koukaku No Pandora, either. It's literally every yuri anime.
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So, Minato was a boy, right?
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>>1956713
yes
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>>1956712
I have no idea when this became a thing, but it needs to stop.
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>>1956719
Many people recommend you simply ignore trolls in internet
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>>1956712
Sometimes I think that people in 4chan actually derive pleasure from being angry.
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>>1956712
It's because /u/ read yuri manga and has higher standards.
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>>1956724
>/u/
>high standard

Your a funny guy.
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>>1956726
Just think about /a/ standards.
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>>1956726
"Not het" is a higher standard.
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>>1956724
Don't mistake being difficult as having high standards.

>>1956729
I won't, because I don't give a shit about /a/. I just want to enjoy some cartoon lesbians.
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>>1956732
>Don't mistake being difficult as having high standards.
>/u/
>being difficult

Two girls can sit on a bench together and /u/ thinks they're carpet munchers.
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>>1956733
And those two girls could be carpet munching on screen and /u/ would still say it's het.
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>>1956733
>>1956736
Could it be that /u/ is more than one person?! Shocking!
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>>1956712
Because /u/ enjoys more complaining about the lack of yuri then actual talk about it.
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>>1956736
>/u/
More likely falseflaggers from /a/.
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>>1956741
Considering the atrocity this season is, it's no suprise. Maybe if we had more shows other than Pandora to discuss, and we don't.
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>>1956739
It's 3 actually. You, me and that tripfag.
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She kinda looks like a pimp in that getup.
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I like this first episode, lesbian cyborgs are funny
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>>1956736
No, one single, desperate troll would.

Case in point: This thread.
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>>1956747
That tripfag is me too, so we are here alone, my friend.
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>>1956831
I'm sorry anon. You are actually me too.
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>>1956838
Then who am I?
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Which subs?
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>>1956890
Just another voice in my head
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>>1956891
Just HS / Funi for now. I think there's another group planning on subbing but they haven't released anything yet.
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>>1956712
That's because not everyone has the same criteria for what qualifies as yuri. If anything /a/ is using the term closer to how Japan understands it, while /u/ (or a part of it at least) has more in mind something that for Japan would fall somewhere between yuri and lez.

>>1956741
Isn't there a saying that no board on 4chan enjoys its subject?
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>>1957194
>something that for Japan would fall somewhere between yuri and lez
Isn't "lez" still part of yuri, as in girls' love, by Japanese standards?

From Wiki: "Yuri focuses on the sexual orientation or the romantic orientation aspects of the relationship, or both, the latter of which sometimes being called shōjo-ai by Western fandom."

Perhaps you were thinking more along the lines of Class S stuff, which isn't necessarily a lesbian thing.
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>>1957320
Depends on who you ask, really. Japanese fans or even mangaka and editors don't agree any more than we do on what is yuri and what is not.
But yes, that was badly worded. It's probably more accurate to say that for Japan yuri is a very broad spectrum that goes from Class S to lez. /a/ is using a similar definition, while the part of /u/ that complains shows aren't yuri use a more restrictive sense, refering mainly to the side of the yuri spectrum that is closer to/overlapping with lez.
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>>1957320
The usual circumstance where a Japanese fan of yuri will say material is "lez" but not "yuri" is male oriented girl-on-girl porn without romance.
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>>1957194
>If anything /a/ is using the term closer to how Japan understands it.

Nice try, /a/non, but nope. The regular yuri fan in Japan tends to be quite opposed to that as well. That is why specific yuri magazines even came to exist.

Have a look at the comments the Sonohana people got. They are pretty much identical to common fears on /u/ when we discover a new, possibly yuri anime.

Japanese yuri fandom is much more close to how people act on /u/ than you may want to admit, and certainly far closer to /u/ than to /a/ .
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>>1957409
>Japanese yuri fandom is much more close to how people act on /u/

So... Japan claims everything isn't technically yuri too?
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>>1955427
I recall that in Motoko's back-story she was one of the first to adapt to full-body cybernetics. You can also draw parallels with their hacking skills and sexual orientation so there's a fair chance that Nene and the major are in fact the same person.
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>>1957418
I bet you're one of those people who believes that /u/ hates yuri.
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>>1957420
Nene is effectively treated as the first human in her setting to have skills that resemble the Major's (it gets really obvious in ch 25) and due to similar circumstances, but I don't think there's any real chance they're the same person. For a start, I can't imagine Nene is going to have a military career.
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>>1957431
I can see it happening after she loses cla-ring.
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>>1957420
Oh, I forgot the AI fetish. Another thing they have in common.

It would explain why she went to such extreme lengths to save the AI in the original movie.
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>>1957433
>cla-ring
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>>1957435
Official subs. You may as well get used to it.
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>>1957418
Yes, the japanese yuri fandom does not consider haremshit where the girls all love a guy, but grope a girl once, yuri.

In fact, they don't even consider things like certain precure seasons yuri. Fan-made Yuri anthologies often have rules to keep that kind of thing out.

You may whine that this means that they "hate yuri", but most yuri fans would just consider this a sane approach.

Most people don't follow the Mugino school of thought, sorry.
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>>1957420
Parallels, but as far as personality, looks, behavior and interests go, they couldn't be more different.

She's a nod to the major, that's all.
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what are the best subs for this? rip funi?
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>[DameDesuYo] Koukaku no Pandora - 01 (1280x720 10bit AAC) [E93584C7].mkv
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=773842
Good subs out
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>>1957486
what's good about them?
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>>1957424
Not him but I think most people only 'belief' it out of fun. It comes from the fact that the biggest /u/ threads seem to be the one with non-confirmed gay girls while the ones with actual gay ones get less attention.
That even counts for pairings in an anime like VD. For some reason /u/ seems to love Mamori while she is the less (openly) gay character.
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>>1957486
How do they spell Clarin?
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>>1957522
"Clarin", as it should be.
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>>1957524
Sold.
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>>1957486
>>1957524
About time we got good subs.
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>>1956627
He posted chapter 4
https://kurarinscans.wordpress.com/2016/01/12/koukaku-no-pandora-ch-4/
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>>1955417
>Not an HDMI cable
Onee-sama, pls
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>>1955537
>>1955586
They don't seem to be "underaged"...
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>>1955855
Do Androids dream of Electric Sheep?
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>>1956021
Why live.
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>>1957504
The fact that they're not FAiLimation and the fact that it's a decent translation and localisation.
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>>1957827
>fact that it's a decent translation and localisation

>Sumimasen!
>I'm double sorry!
Top kek nee-san.
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I just watched the anime. So how yuri does it get according to the manga? Or is it more of subtext?
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>>1957832
Not that anon, but can you not picture her saying "I'm double sorry"? I don't think I personally would've put that, but it's very much in character for her.
すみません just means very apologetic.
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>>1957848
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>>1957827
Also ED lyrics:

>Accessing the device named nature
>Infinite answers to the synopsis found
>Read Write Enter Code
>Sharing tools can lead to unavoidable situations
>Saving data
>Strengthening predictions
>Even my latest updates can't help explain why you're so nice to me
>Error Error Parameter
>Please help me understand where these emotions came from
>Find me at the end of this labyrinth of feelings I can no longer control
>I understand the concept of emotions but I can't make any sense of my own
>I want to pull out these cords and head straight to you
>I won't come to understand love (KOI) without having you here with me
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>>1957849
the belief that english audiences need to have character nuances spoonfed to them with fruity dialogue is awful.
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>>1957848
Is "daisuki" confession as a shining culmination of a 2-volume character arc subtext for you?

If so, this will be too subtext, just look elsewhere for your fix.
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>>1957923
Depends. Is played as a joke or serious?
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>>1957939
Only /u/ would ask something like this.
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>>1957962
That's sadly how it works: "yuri" is often a joke or a spectacle, or both.
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>>1957962
/u/ hates yuri.

two girls could literally be engaging in cunnilingus on screen for 22 minutes and /u/ would still say, "It may not be yuri, we don't know for sure yet."
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>>1957976
I don't want 22m of cunnilingus. I want one aishiteru.
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>>1957979
I want both.
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>>1957976
/u/ does not hate yuri, butthurt /a/non, regardless how often you attempt to failtroll. You are painfully obvious.

>>1957939
No, it is presented as major character development for both girls.
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>>1957962
>>1957976
>/u/ this, /u/ that

This is getting annoying.
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>>1958004
Just like people constantly saying how this show has no yuri elements.
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>>1956722

>ignore trolls in internet

This
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Newthread for the world peace>>1958131
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>>1958132
Mugino pls it's page 3
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>>1958135
love live, madoka, yuyuyu and other have news thread so soon after they get 300 post
you are complayning just because
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>>1958370
They also ride theirs down to about page five before doing it. I would've understood you doing it if a new episode aired but think next time please.
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>>1958393
Just ignore him
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>>1958449
Kind of hard to ignore new threads being made too early. It pushes other threads off the board and floods it with redundancies.
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>>1958490
Yeah, we know that, we discuss that every general thread, beacuse Mugino
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>>1957856
That's pretty gay, 2bh.
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>>1958626
>because of idiots
ftfy
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>>1958631
Gloriously so.
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>>1959130
Dat character progression.
>at the start Nene needs Clarin to guide her
>by the end Clarin now melts in Nene's arms
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>>1959130
>>1959184
Some of those begs for a kiss.
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