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Anyone else ship this?
There's not much art of Raiko in general, which is a shame.
I suggest we make ReiAli our new overlords
I think we should have love and tolerance for all the
wrongpairings in the world
Touhou Sangetsusei is being restarted.
In addition to the Three Fairies of Light, Cirno and Daiyousei will be recurring characters.
One of the Three Fairies is going to become the third party in a triangular relationship with Cirno and Daiyousei.
>One of the Three Fairies is going to become the third party in a triangular relationship with Cirno and Daiyousei
That´s doujinshi magic right here
Exactly as Yuyuko planned, of course.
i ship benben, yatsuhashi, and raiko together as a threesome (yatsuhashi deserves to be included in the yuri love too), although benben and raiko by themselves are really cute too. i agree that it is a shame there is not more art of raiko. raiko has such a cool design.
I used to depend primarily on doujin to familarize myself with Touhou characters. You end up mostly knowing memes and shit but that's what tends to drive the fandom.
However, there's been a stready decline in the number of Touhou doujin artists over the years. The characters went from having basically no backstory like the SDM group to the most recent games with relately detailed backstories, which means fewer gaps for doujin artists to fill. You could have a hundred different takes on who Sakuya is but basically everyone latched onto the saintly "youkai and humans living in harmony" image given to Byakurrn even though canonically she wouldn't trust humans if not hate them.
Also a lot of the most recognizable artists seem to have either retired, moved on to fresh material, or have started original stories.
It's kind of depressing but at the same time it's a part of life
I prefer the characters as they are in the games.
While the earlier games didn't have much backstory, the characters were much, much less stereotypical.
This is especially noticeable in Alice.
In the games where they do interact, she and Marisa both snark at each other quite a bit. It gives the impression that they don't always see each other but they're comfortable with each other when they do.
In fanon Alice is just a generic tsundere.
>The characters went from having basically no backstory like the SDM group to the most recent games with relately detailed backstories, which means fewer gaps for doujin artists to fill.
This is nonsense. Just because the west didn't have the bios translated doesn't mean they didn't exist.
But they did. The amount of backstory to fill has never changed - in fact, many of the earlier characters had much LESS room to fill than recent ones.
Why are western fans always so retarded to think that translated stuff = all that ever existed?
Its already canon that after meeting the Three Fairies of Light, Cirno started to ignore Daiyousei and Daiyousei was pissed enough about it to attack Cirno in Fairy Wars.
More specifically Cirno was seen together with Luna in a crowd scene in Wild and Horned Hermit.
So the basis has already been laid down.
If I were a betting man, I would wager that only Daiyousei sees the relationship as romantic/sexual. It would be the typical Touhou response.
And really the whole thing is an attempt to explain why Daiyousei fought Cirno in Fairy Wars, when virtually the whole fandom already were convinced they were a couple.
This is a new pair. The dream eating tapir and the one winged angel.
Thanks, I haven't touched touhou in a whale. Is Yukarei still cool?
It was never cool, just a passing amusement during the endless centuries of a real love.
It's still one of the most popular ships of both parties.
But /u/ told me they broke up after the whole resurrection thing! Liar, it's over between us.
Yuyuko is friend-fodder, nee-san. There is nothing as pure and true as love between master and servant, cultivated and sweetening over hundreds of years.
So what are they ara ara ing about on this warm summers day while cooling off their feet?
Yukari marrying Raymoo would improve human/youkai political relationships. Better than tits.
can someone make this a thing that i can copy and send in texts and stuff? i wanna use it in my steam profile
I don't think Yukari is interested in another dead wife.
Reimu's power stems from her being human.
In spite of her OP hax its far from clear that Reimu has any magic of her own and is simply not a vessel to transmit the power of the gods. So she has to remain a mortal at least until she has an heiress. So she will probably die a mortal.
And after Renko and Yuyuko, I don't think Yukari wants to go through that again.
I prefer to think Yukari is only attracted to mortals.
Nobody know what goes on in Yukari's head.
I'd imagine she just has an unfortunate tendency to have all her pursued relationships end in tragedy some way or another.
Though it probably will stop after Reimu bites it.
Perhaps Yukari can wait for Reimu's reincarnation.
You do know, that each time ZUN has released something involving Renko, her appearance has changed to look more and more like Reimu.
Although the way she dresses and her manner of speaking has always been more like Marisa.
What's the most popular pairing with Byakuren?
Looks cute, care to explain their dynamic? haven't played 10 oh desires yet.
Yeah they're rivals. In TD, Byakuren builds her new temple above Miko's mausoleum to inhibit her from resurrecting, since Miko had been dormant for a few hundred years with Futo and Tojiko, waiting to become Taoist hermits. Buddhist monks had been doing similar things to stop Miko (and Taoism) over those years, but it didn't work this time and Miko still resurrects.
Regarding Kokoro, the daughter dynamic comes from her set of masks being commissioned by Miko when she was the crown prince and from Byakuren offering her help to control her emotions (through Buddhism). Both characters took an interest in assisting Kokoro, so it adds to the rival thing.
They hate each other because they each want to propagate a different religion, and each wishes that the other's group would have never come to Gensokyo.
So obviously that means they must actually want to fuck each other.
I believe Miko has a deeper connection to Kokoro.
Yup. I just checked the wiki:
>While she was still alive, Miko created the 66 masks which Kokoro was born from. Miko later makes Kokoro a new mask of hope to replace her lost one. However, Kokoro discarded this mask, as its stabilising effect was so powerful that it would eventually cause her to turn back into a set of inanimate objects. Her feelings towards Miko over this are unknown.
Having a girlfiend with a mindreading sister sounds scary too. Can't have hand holding thoughts around her.
Satori and Byakuren both think the relationship is therapeutic for the both of them.
They both encourage it.
If Satori detected lewd thoughts like that from EITHER of them, she would be happy as it would be an improvement in either ones condition.
I wonder if this book is yuri enough to warrant importing/scanning? This artist does good yuri illustrations but their doujinshi are usually just ecchi-ish and not that great.
I'm not really sure what started me on this pair, but I've grown to like it quite a lot in the time its spent bouncing around in my head.
Shame there's so little material and like half of one untranslated doujin about them.
This picture like an illustration to the cute fairy tale where brave Witch saves the Princess and together their fly to the sunset on the broom to be happy forever and ever.
Touhou Sangetsusei- Visionary Fairies in Shrine Ch 1.
First guest star- Clownpiece.
What went on between her and Hecate that she ran away from home?
In some aspects, this story line has been set back a bit. Because here we see Daiyousei hanging out at Cirno's igloo like nothing has happened. So either the Great Fairy War has not happened in this continuation or it has passed some time ago and all the involved parties have forgotten it.
So does Daiyousei know about Cirno and Luna hanging out together like was shown in WaHH? Or is that going to be ignored too?
This dojin page reminds me of this MMD series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10pPmaesKrw
ZUN hardly considers Dai a character. Just compare the treatment her and Koakuma got compared to other midboss only characters like Momiji. Momiji is a boss in DS and gets her own profile in SoPM while the others just get small cameos. The two of them don't get backstory info in the EoSD omake text too. Hell ZUN even said that Dai doesn't really have a name in his former bulletin board. So I wouldn't get too worried about Dai, she's pretty much only there when ZUN needs a extra fairy that isn't Cirno or the three fairies of light.
The bulletin board in question
Ship's log, stardate 1-2016. Year three of waiting for a new Cirno to Reimu's 1-2-3.
I stopped keeping up with it after Yukari got involved and things got all extra DRAMA-y.
I will say it was cute as hell though.
Anybody here a fan of YuuAli or am I the only one?
I'm more a YuuElly fan.
Which 2hu would Yuu(ka) fuq?
Besides Wriggle, Elly and Alice.
Yukka and Meiling is a nice fringe pairing I've seen here and there. Seems cute enough.
Well in this posts particular example Yuuka would definitely make the first move, initially just as a tease and moving onto something more serious later.
I like to imagine she comes to the Mansion occasionally just to boss Meiling around and to make sure she's taking care of all the garden's flowers correctly.
Yuugi. Repeatedly. As long as it took for Parsee to realize she was actually serious about it.
Patchoulli, Alice is too tsundere
>Consider your 2hu pairings.
>Which of them made the first move?
All of them? Well it'll be a long post.
Tough call. Lot of false starts on both sides before Meiling finally decides to damn the torpedoes, and then pic related.
Marisa, and she makes a huge spectacle of it, which sort of annoys Alice, and the whole thing devolves into a snarking match.
Yukari says a bunch of stuff teasingly, but when Reimu actually takes her up on it she's pretty easily swept away.
What >>1971701 said basically.
Parsee isn't too good at the whole self-esteem thing (to Yuugi's confusion).
Keine. Mokou still has her issues with getting close to people, so it's up to Keine to pull her in.
Youmu, because she's completely oblivious to Yuyuko's flirting until Yuyuko explains it to her later.
I'd say the "first move" was Kanako invading Suwako's shrine, so I'll give that one to her.
Yuuka. Because she's Yuuka, so she does what she wants.
>Vivit Gray's Mokou/Keine doujinshis are the best.
damn right they are
I never really got into Yuuka/Wriggle, though I see the reason for it.
I just don't know.
Damn you Vivit Gray, don't hit me out of nowhere with all those feels. I can't sleep anymore.
Man I just can't do these stories that go this direction. Either through a timeskip where one of them has gotten old or where the relationship is put on hold because one or the other is worried about it eventually happening.
Just give me my happiness of the moment. Don't harsh my romance buzz with the morbid inevitability of death and decay I don't NEED this existential BULLSHIT in the middle of my girl on girl lovey doveyness.
Am I a bad person for trying out all different kinds of pairings, even for a single character, for the purpose of creative pursuits and exercises?
With all of them being completely separate from one another of course.
>What if it's exactly what you need?
I don't think I understand what you mean.
I mean sure some pairs work well to explore those kinds of concepts, doesn't mean the story needs to shift decades if not centuries into the future with one character dying/dead, after they've barely gotten to the point of "Hey, we're in a relationship now!".
At least give em a honeymoon before you start setting up a grave.
It's sort of inescapable with Mokou pairings other than Kaguya, since immortality angst is such a huge part of Mokou's character.
The one that bugs me is when they do it to Marisa, since she's canonically done work on an immortality potion and may be trying to magician-youkai herself.
>Let a Youkai or something bit Keine and make her immortal too.
Considering how the Hourai Elixir works, Keine could just eat Mokou's liver. Or, more likely, Mokou could retrieve Kaguya's.
(Though I suppose that would require Mokou setting aside her "immortality is a curse" mindset long enough to give it to someone she cares about.)
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Nothing wrong with that. Especially in this fandom where I doubt there will ever be canon relationships.
Even the obvious contenders like Miko x Tojiko or Suika x Kasen, both are likely married couples because of who they are based on, are unlikely to ever be confirmed.
This could be a reason she lives out in the forest away from the village.
I've been trying to work on some things myself, but I don't have much experience in writing anything really so its been slow goings.
Mostly working through my own mental blocks is slowing down progress.
I get that its an inevitable thing with a bunch of the pairings (Meiling x Sakuya its very common as well), but its not like people in real life get together and immediately start thinking about the future where one of them is going to die first and the other is going to spend the rest of their years alone.
I'm okay with a story that explores those ideas and has the characters trying to deal with them, I just don't like it when it gets shoved into otherwise happy stories right at the end for that one last soulwrench.
Meiling's already a youkai, though.
But yeah, "Remilia turns Sakuya" is the obvious solution to any Sakuya pairing. Plus she's very much an outsider from the Gensokyo humans, so it probably won't bring down Reimugeddon.
>But yeah, "Remilia turns Sakuya" is the obvious solution to any Sakuya pairing.
The only really problematic ones are Keine and Reimu, because they don't have the obvious fixes.
Sakuya is turned, Marisa becomes a magician, Youmu's human half dies so she just becomes a full ghost, Sanae's already a minor deity.
>Suika x Kasen
Those two have a history eh? I have more of a soft spot for Kasen x Reimu though.
Suika is based on Shuten-douji or Ibuki-douji, one of the more infamous oni in Japanese mythology. Yuugi is based on Hoshikuma-douji, one of Shuten-douji's closer subordinates, and per Touhou canon the two were part of the Oni leadership together.
Kasen, if the heavy implication that she's an oni proves true, would get her name from Ibaraki-douji, who in some stories is Shuten-douji's wife.
Someone needs to scrape Wild and Horned Hermit for all the obivous "nudge nudge, know what I mean, say no more" moments and collage them or something.
I feel like there was at least one a chapter, though the Setsubun chapter had pretty much nothing but.
>Kasen, if the heavy implication that she's an oni proves true, would get her name from Ibaraki-douji, who in some stories is Shuten-douji's wife.
To elaborate a bit more on this theory, the legend of Ibaraki-douji includes a rather crucial element: Ibaraki-douji is known to have lost an arm in a battle against a group of humans trying to wipe out Shuten-douji's band; after seeing Shuten-douji struck down, Ibaraki-douji fled and was the only survivor.
Ibaraki-douji then infiltrated the attacker's home in the guise of a human woman to steal back the severed arm. Sound familiar?
It would be pretty dumb if you could avoid the punishment for breaking a major taboo like that by moving away from the village for a bit.
There's some pretty good Western fanfics, though. This one seems particularly promising: http://archiveofourown.org/works/5843659/chapters/13468438
>It would be pretty dumb if you could avoid the punishment for breaking a major taboo like that by moving away from the village for a bit.
The thing with Gensokyo is that so much of it depends upon the perceptions of the humans in the village. The jinyou who Reimu executed was explicitly a normal citizen of the village before becoming a youkai, and said as much; Marisa, meanwhile, has been gone from the village for her entire adult life, so she's already something of an outsider. She's definitely not seen as a resident of the village.
Sure, it's basically conflict-avoidance fanwank but it's Touhou, all the powers already run on semantic wiggle room.
>that renko and maribel art
I think I'm gonna vomit. No offense to UGL the guy's a consistently good writer but that art man.
Forbidden Scrollery, Chapter 25. It's not on Dynasty yet, but the gist of it is Reimu kills a newly-formed youkai who used to be a human villager. Not defeats, not out-spellcards, straight-out ice-cold public execution.
"In Gensokyo, a village human turning into a youkai is the most grievous sin of all."
The problem with Sakuya becoming a Vampire is that it just doesn't seem like something she'd want to do.
For starters she seems to prefer her place as a human (this is brought up in Imperishable Night when they discuss eating Mokou's liver), as though she wants to remain "below" Remilia.
There's also the fact that, being a newly turned Vampire, her long list of incredibly varied weaknesses would be turned up to 11 for at least a couple centuries. She'd have to rely pretty much entirely on Meiling or the fairies (ha) to do anything involving going outside during the daytime. She would also add to the number of bloodsuckers living in the Mansion, who may also need blood more often than Remilia and Flandre at first, which may complicate relations with the human village or whatever unknown food supply source they seem to have.
I imagine its more a matter of keeping the balance of things. They don't want the village humans turning into Youkai left and right because that'd fuck everything up. So she just slaps it down then and there.
That's probably why the doujin has Remilia do it to Sakuya against her will.
>It would be pretty dumb if you could avoid the punishment for breaking a major taboo like that by moving away from the village for a bit.
The phrase "from the village" is pretty crucial as far as human/youkai relations go. In CILR Yukari specifically says that youkai won't eat humans "from the village". So possibly one can renounce village human status, but doing so makes you a target for youkai. Doing so after becoming a youkai isn't enough.
At fighting spell card duels, maybe. Gensokyo is full of beings who could easily crush her if they went all out. You'd think something like that would have been mentioned at least once in canon.
I've personally been working with the idea that
Sakuya actually drinks Remilia's blood and becomes a Ghoul in the Vampire: The Masquerade sense. It pretty easily explains the idea that she's been serving Remilia for a very long time, makes her aging a non-issue, and allows her to remain her humanity enough to still jive with the events after they arrive in Gensokyo. I've never even seen this idea explored anywhere else.
That's where things get kind of weird when you bring in the spellcard rules. Can youkai just attack humans without needing to mess with a duel? If they do duel and the youkai wins does that mean they get to eat the human? How do the youkai know the difference between humans from the outside world (that they're free to eat supposedly) and the humans from the village?
Its uh, really one of those things that's kind of implied and is part of the underlying basics of the setting, but its not really acknowledged very much and is yet to be shown at all.
As far as I know the only youkai who explicitly DON'T are Alice, Patchouli, and Byakuren (magicians don't need to eat at all).
The residents of Former Hell probably don't either (unless Yukari's dropping people in there separately from Gensokyo) since they were sealed off before SA.
Beyond that it's a question of how much you're willing to generalise from stuff Yukari says.
>If they do duel and the youkai wins does that mean they get to eat the human?
I'd assume this is how it works, otherwise why would there be a seperate clause for "you can't eat the village ones" beyond the (apparently universal, explicitly nonviolent) spellcard rules?
It's... pretty heavily implied.
For all its light-hearted antics, Gensokyo is at its core a nature preserve for things that go bump in the night.
Well you have to consider the fact that these girls aren't humans to begin with, they aren't just cute girls in silly outfits living in the forest, they are monsters by design and the only reason they even get to do all their cute girl stuff is because Gensokyo is a wonderful place. Plus they've likely been alive and at it long enough that the idea of eating people isn't any stranger to them as eating cows is to you.
Its really only so jarring because roughly 98% of the fanon completely ignores that aspect of the setting and the other 2% goes maximum full ham on it to the point where its a main focus (See: Zounose. I love the guy's stuff but jesus shit dude reel it back a little).
So then what do youkai who win stand to gain other than getting to tell the human to piss off and/or get out of their way?
I've heard the theory that youkai are actually able to sustain their existence just by continuing to mess around with humans, like Kogasa, so maybe they don't all need to be munching on lost humans all the time?
I suppose the thing is that humans from outside Gensokyo are generally incapable of engaging in spell card duels, or even capable of conducting them, so the rule probably isn't overly restricting.
Dammit, one of those was meant to convey that they wouldn't even know what spell card duels are. I'm going to bed.
Don't forget that the only people Yukari sends over as human food are people who won't be missed in the outside world. Kasen and the others were very careful to make sure nothing bad happened Sumireko in ULiL because they knew there would be problems if someone in the outside world just disappeared. There are those that don't know Gensokyo's rule's though, the ones that cause too much of a mess get taken care of in one way or other by Reimu or other youkai.
>It's just hard to believe while reading some heartwarming stories that those blushing girls going kyaa and being afraid of confessing would have human snacks on the side.
Keep in mind that those stories are not canon. At all.
And not to get IRL but just look at humans. Perfectly able to go kyaa and blush, and then eat meat produced by really awful circumstances. Just look at how chicken is produced. Sure, it's fucking delicious, but the conditions there are horrible.
From a youkai's perspective, they're probably much more humane to humans than we are to chickens.
Oh yes, I remember that line quite well. And I hate it, because it will never be expanded on and will forever remain an obscure one-off line.
I've personally tried a few things with it, but its still annoying ZUN would lay down such a massive plot hook and never touch it again.
That has to be the single most absolutely lamest possible theory I have ever heard to explain that line away.
Plus it doesn't really go with the way its worded, how it says "and only Eirin knows why", as though its a secret Sakuya is simply unaware of rather than something she doesn't remember happening. Course that could just be the translation.
There isn't much Kasen yuri, period. Pretty much every doujin with her in it is her being gangbanged. There's not even that much fanart - four pages on Danbooru.
It's honestly depressing.
But then again it seems the Touhou fandom already has one foot in the grave.
>it seems the Touhou fandom already has one foot in the grave.
There's still two conventions a year dedicated to solely Touhou merch, and it has three currently-running manga (one of which was just picked up for its fourth run).. I've seen a lot of things much, much deader than Touhou.
Its not that Touhou is dead, its just that the yuri subgroup of it seems to be considerably smaller than it was in the fandom's younger years.
Could just be my imagination as I haven't really kept up with doujin that come out much, but it seems like the amount of yuri content in general shrunk way way down as the amount of normal porn content went up.
People also seem much less willing to discuss it as well. Posts on danbooru for example that go back a few years have a lot more people commenting on a yuri picture's content than they seem to now.
Ah well, not much point in worrying about it now. Not like its the first time terrible taste has won out, either.
Touhou manga/secondary material characters never really get as much attention as game characters. See also: the shameful lack of Kosuzu/Akyuu or Kosuzu/Mamizou. (The former suffers from this twice over.)
>Could just be my imagination as I haven't really kept up with doujin that come out much, but it seems like the amount of yuri content in general shrunk way way down as the amount of normal porn content went up.
I think that's less to do with the doujin artists and more to do with the people scanning the doujins. If you poke around on booru, for instance, there's a bunch of doujin previews/cover pages that have never been scanned.
Ugh, that's easily the worst part about it all.
The idea that there's a massive amount of content I'll literally never be able to see because it was never scanned in the first place and never will be because they aren't even physically sold anymore.
All that yuri lost in time, like tears in rain.
>But then again it seems the Touhou fandom already has one foot in the grave.
Pretty much every fandom in existance wants to have one foot in the grave then, if this is "having one foot in the grave".
Both are put upon servants, often times get stuck dealing with shit from the rest of their respective households, one is a medic and the other is a hand-to-hand combatant which leads to plenty of cute things where one can play nursemaid to the other
Also, i personally like SDM character ships that include someone from outside the mansion since it could lead to plenty of cute 'Meeting the family' scenes.
Some art was also made when it changed from the year of the rabbit to the year of the dragon
>Also, i personally like SDM character ships that include someone from outside the mansion since it could lead to plenty of cute 'Meeting the family' scenes.
My favourite ones for this are Remilia/Satori or Flandre/Koishi, because then it goes two ways.
There's also how its basically just a cute as fug pair without any sort of drama attached to them unless you start digging into the serious abuse material.
I've always thought of Meiling as a sortof lonely person. Always outside by herself either at the gate or in the gardens, with the occasional visitor to bug or berate her. Then with Reisen who has the rest of Eientei to be around, but tends to get a bit bullied by them on a regular basis, so the idea of her coming to visit Meiling who in comparison would just be a big ray of positive sunshine for her, just gives me a nice warm fuzzy feeling.
Though a lot of my feelings on the pair is based mostly on my own ideas and character I've built up for the two so its kinda hard to describe it well.
Bonding over being exiles and Kaguya helping to sort out Reisen's PTSD. Also Kaguya is supposed to be really pretty, what moon bunny living under the same roof as her wouldn't secretly want a piece of that?
While I have zero issue with the whole "PTSD-y Reisen" concept, I've never really been able to stick with it just because there just never seems to be any solid reason for her to have it.
I looked up the little story you posted and while its sweet, it just goes with the idea of her being sad because life on the moon was shitty for her. But considering she's been on Earth living in Eientei for about 40ish years by the events of Imperishable Night, it seems a little silly.
Maybe it just boils down to taste I guess. Or I just think EirinxReisen or Kaguya's other pairs are more interesting and I'm trying too hard not to be argumentative over it.