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Haven't seen one of these in a while, so lets have a fanfic thread.
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>>1875256
Can anyone rec a goddess/mortal fic?
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Well, someone should copypaste the old OP's with some edits to the recs
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Been reading this for the past week. It's just as unbelievable as Skyrim itself in plot development, but kinda still hooking me for whatever reason.
https://archiveofourown.org/works/1795186/chapters/3848677
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>>1875300
Seems like a good read from the prologue. I'll check it out, so thanks buddy.
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>>1875300
Never actually played any Skyrim, would I need to to read this?
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I need a new series. I feel like I've read all the good Once Upon A Time fics. Are there any other good live action shows whose fan base leans heavily towards yuri?
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>>1875579
It's pretty much like playing Skyrim. Plot points out of nowhere, people suddenly talking to you (and giving fetchquests)...but a little more cohesive and actually things connect (however coincidental).
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>>1875745
the only ones i can think of are xena warrior princess and rizzoli and isles
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Like em or not I'm posting some fics
https://m.fanfiction.net/s/7527129/1/Old-Soul Dark Souls
https://m.fanfiction.net/s/6624788/1/Cold-Days-With-A-Warm-Heart K on
https://m.fanfiction.net/s/4004316/1/Windows-of-the-Soul Mai Hime
https://m.fanfiction.net/s/3599530/1/Astraea-Lake Strawberry Panic
https://m.fanfiction.net/s/10672066/1/Desire-After-a-New-Dawn LoL
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>>1876003
>Windows of the Soul

Man, I am always gonna be in love with that one. Fiercely in love. I wish there was more good Mai Hime fanfiction like that.
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>>1875745
Agent Carter and maybe The 100. Agent Carter has the added bonus of actually being good, if you can get past the foregone conclusion that she eventually marries and has kids.
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>>1875745
Person of Interest has quite a bit and the show is pretty entertaining
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>>1876033
>be european
>don't have S4 yet
>can't read fics, because it's all post-S3 or even S4

Goddammit.
Great show, nonetheless, even with some jarringly stupid plot devices.
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>>1876034
I am german, they just aired S4 here recently but I missed quite a few episodes so I am rather annoyed that Netflix US can't get their shit in check and make due on their promise of S4 in September. S4 has tons of Shaw and Root stuff so I am a little impatient.

The plot devices are a little ridiculous sometimes but its so over the top and rule of cool I honestly don't feel bad about it at all. Amy Acker is also a miracle.
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>>1876034
Just torrent it?
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>>1876039
I've left the loop of torrents too long ago to know which client, site and whatnot is "safe" (none really is), so I've stopped doing it entirely. Sage, because blogpost.
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>>1876048
I just use pratebay and kickass, and an old version of utorrent (mostly for the few occasions on which I use a private tracker) and I have neither been arrested nor had my laptop blow up yet. I actually just dled season 4 a couple of weeks ago.
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>>1876034
Just torrent it. I haven't watched TV on an actual TV in years.
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>>1876048
Try https://kat.cr/. That's what I use, and I've never had any problems.
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>>1875822
Speaking of, since this is suposed to be a fan fic thread, here are a few Rizzoli and Isles one shots:

http://archiveofourown.org/works/1340215
http://archiveofourown.org/works/317765
http://archiveofourown.org/works/463025
http://archiveofourown.org/works/891119
http://archiveofourown.org/works/227897
http://archiveofourown.org/works/578764
http://archiveofourown.org/works/3464738
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>>1875745
If you don't mind an older/completed series, Buffy the Vampire Slayer has a ton of f/f stuff. Also a really good show, with canon lesbians.
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>>1876104
Anything really good that has the canon ones? Because looking through that very unsorted pile of stuff is ridiculous hard task
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>>1875745
Warehouse 13. The Bering & Wells fandom is still going fairly strong.
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>>1876112
Didn't Wells end up marrying a man and having children?
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>>1876113
If we limited our fandom to canon lesbians, we'd never have anything at all to talk about.
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>>1876110
It's been a few years since I read much Buffy stuff, so nothing off the top of my head (and I was more of a Buffy/Faith person). Just use the tags on ff.n and sort by favorites or reviews, for a start.
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>>1876121
I tried that but not a lot of people tagged the characters, probably because that fandom was active back in 200something when they didnt have character tags yet?
Buffy/Faith was always to intense for me
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>>1876101
>Rizzoli and Isles
How's the going anyway?
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>>1876123
That is certainly true, and a lot of fic was hosted on other sites that aren't around anymore. Try looking at popular fics' author's profiles, see what they have written/faved. It'll probably take some digging, but there's plenty of good stuff to find.
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>>1876124
Don't know, stopped watching a while ago. Too much focus on the character drama and not enough on the crime drama.

>>1876123
Yeah, it kind of sucks. AO3 has wonderful tagging and filtering, but only a fraction of the content of FF.net
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>>1876113
No. She hooked up with a woman named Giselle, but it happened off screen.
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>>1876124
On a break currently but took a trend like >>1876156 said. Last episode before the break was about some stalker coming after Jane, the same one who torched her apartment and hacked into her accounts, and then kidnapped Maura at the end of it.
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I’m bored. Have some Bering & Wells fic recs:
Ages http://archiveofourown.org/works/2263941/chapters/4972236 - rated M, au, should probably be subtitled Everyone Was Abused.

Catalyst http://archiveofourown.org/works/376520/chapters/614451 - rated E

Resigned to these Histories (We Exist) http://archiveofourown.org/works/957200 - rated E, you should read all her B&W fics, her Shoot ones too. You know what, just read everything she’s ever written.

Travel http://archiveofourown.org/works/2512607/chapters/5581214 - rated M, au

Murmation http://archiveofourown.org/works/2797148/chapters/6278945 - rated E, au, probably one of the very best fics you’ll read.

Pygmalion http://archiveofourown.org/works/3326597 - rated E, pretty much just smut

I’ve Found a Whole New Way to Love You http://archiveofourown.org/works/471080 - rated E

Left Unsaid http://archiveofourown.org/works/298612/chapters/478109 - oh look one that’s not rated M or E.

Delivered http://archiveofourown.org/works/482182/chapters/838908 - and a babyfic to finish off.
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>>1876215
"Rated E" is commonly known as "for everyone" so you should probably use something else to denote "explicit."
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Any workable way to make Ao3 search only certain categories? Like just anime/manga, just TV-shows, just games, just movies, etc.
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>>1876216
Nah. It just makes it hilarious when they click on it expecting a wholesome family tale and instead get fists in dripping cunts.
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>>1875256
Can I get some good western animation fics? I want to expand my horizons and see if I can give non-anime fics. But like any good western cartoon will do, except Adventure Time. Bubbline is just so overrated to me.
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>>1876215
Let me toss in a few too:

that fluffy cop AU http://archiveofourown.org/series/117643 two stories, both rated G

The Future An Experiment http://archiveofourown.org/works/241982 rated M

Classification Error http://archiveofourown.org/works/310065/chapters/496203 rated M

Extenuating Circumstances http://archiveofourown.org/works/263381 M, but probably should be E, basically just very fluffy, romantic porn.
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>>1876215
>You should read her shoot stuff

I agree I really liked that stuff but just a warning in Digital Lion Depressed Root has Reese go down on her pretending its Shaw.
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>all these live action stuff

Ew, anything else happening?
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if anyone is interested in Tinkerbell fics, I've done a short series and I'm currently working on another entry that I predict to be done this week which will be (Tinkerbell/Periwinkle/Vidia). The links to the series are below.
I need to mention though, I've listed them in the order that I originally posted the stories and the order I recommend reading. However, if you want to read in chronological order, the timeline of the series goes 4 -> 5 -> 1 -> 2 -> 3
BTW, if your wondering why this series is five seperate links, my first entry, I wasn't expecting this to turn into a series and I didn't want to delete the first story and it's reviews

1. The Mystery of the Queen (Tinkerbell/Queen Clarion) - https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9772883/1/Teaching-Tink-The-Mystery-of-the-Queen
2. The Benefits of Sister's (Tinkerbell/Periwinkle) - https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9905173/1/Teaching-Tink-The-Benefits-of-Sisters
3. Show and Tell (TInkerbell/Vidia) - https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10030415/1/Teaching-Tink-Show-and-Tell

4. Tinkering Tink (Tinkerbell solo) - https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11302067/1/Tinkering-Tink

5. Where Fairies (Also) Come From (no sex) - https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11407003/1/Where-Fairies-also-Come-From
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>>1876238
Top kek, is like they can't help it...
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>>1876263
Funniest fic you've read. GO!
I'm totally not a newfag fishing for recs, I swear!

To contribute, western fics:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/2103750/chapters/4587252 Frozen/Mulan
http://archiveofourown.org/works/2573990 HP
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11033027/1/Like-Summer Frozen
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10656947/1/Reflection Frozen
http://archiveofourown.org/works/3333755 Maleficent

>>1876263
>Tinkerbell/Periwinkle
Fuck me, the holy, incestuous grail.
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>>1876275
without a doubt, this one
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10664858/1/Must-Be-Love-A-series-of-Elsanna-oneshots
equal parts comedy and sex and I loved it

>Fuck me, the holy, incestuous grail.
oh yes, ever since i watched Secret of the Wings, I LOVED the pariing! it's such a shame there isn't more Tink/Peri fics, but I'll help change that one fic at a time
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>>1876275
>http://archiveofourown.org/works/2103750/chapters/4587252
This one is great, I love all that cliche soulbonding shit when it's done well.

I read these the other day and thought they were great as well.
http://archiveofourown.org/works/3254825/chapters/7095455
Shaw/Root Harry Potter AU I fucking love Harry Potter AUs, they're what fanfiction exists for.
http://archiveofourown.org/works/3577395/chapters/7885557
Shaw/Root soulbond, mostly canon compliant.

I just wish there were some new Madoka fic worth reading.
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>>1876226
Yeah, sure

>Avatar: Legend of Korra:

Asami the Korrabender archiveofourown.org/works/3122597/chapters/6766763

The Engineer's Guide to Dating the Avatar http://archiveofourown.org/works/2856221

Fess up http://archiveofourown.org/works/3427532

Grow Till Tall http://archiveofourown.org/works/2823665

In Sickness or in Health http://archiveofourown.org/works/2181048

Of Interruptions and Complications http://archiveofourown.org/works/3179180

Cool http://archiveofourown.org/works/3091175

The Jealous Type http://archiveofourown.org/works/2740799

>Gravity Falls:
Do You Like Me? http://archiveofourown.org/works/3592695

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9095218/1/Bigger-Than-I-Remember

>Teen Titans
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6829994/1/Stand-Still-So-I-Can-Pick-You-Up

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7345297/1/Bow-Chicka-Wow-Wow

>Frozen
Shall We Dance? http://archiveofourown.org/works/1120158

In which Anna talks about birds http://archiveofourown.org/works/1154568
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>>1876275
>Funniest fic you've read. GO!

Holiday Service http://archiveofourown.org/works/1165767
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>>1876275
>funniest fic
well, this made me laugh. a lot.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6621330/1/Santa-s-Little-Helper
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>>1875300
I finished that shit in 2 days man, It was great. The way they wrapped the story up by going back to Dragons Bridge was great.
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>>1876124
Isn't Jane pregnant? So, yeah. Guess where that's headed.
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>>1876511
A glee fic here, well that was unexpected. And that one fic is hilarious.
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>>1876275
>Funniest
I can't choose just one, but this one is up there
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11090990/1/Back-to-the-Hyperdimension
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>>1876922
I miss vintage Glee fic.
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>>1876872
lol what
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I wish I could get back into fanfiction. I read (or at least checked out) so many fics for about 5 years, up until a year ago or so, both for western shows/books and Japanese stuff. And I just grew so tired of the flaws. Fanfics of Jap stuff has the problem of being fairly rare, as well as generally having poor prose due to the unfortunate tendency of copying LN/manga-style affectations, so eventually I just got sick of searching (didn't help that Ao3 blew up and there was no finding that stuff between all the western stories). The western stuff didn't have it quite that bad, but it did have the issue of celebrating and promoting very mediocre stuff for some reason and, most importantly, holy fucking shit there's like three different stories being told over and over again with different characters in different fandoms. Or just the same characters. And it all feels so immature, it's all about the same stuff it feels like.

Nowadays I can't stand western fics because it all feels so predictable, as well as the prevalence of tumblr-memes and crossovers and pop-culture references which makes otherwise decent stories unbearable. But I'm way too lazy to search for a glimmer of gold in the eastern fic department having to trawl through pages and pages of western stuff or het stuff on Ao3/ff.net respectively just to find ANY stories, much less one not written like a chuuni 5th-grader. And inevitably the decent stuff is like 1.5k words and lasts me 3 minutes of enjoyment for 30 minutes of looking.
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Warmth is a fic I enjoy: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6514752/1/Warmth

It's pretty high on the angst, but I don't mind since it's fairly grounded and not related to dudes or DV which seems to be the go-to for angst and drama in fics. I like the writing a lot and the author does great drawings for it, though I dunno where the links to them went. I assume they'll be back soon.
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>>1877060

Fanworks are always subject to quality variance and random discontinuation. Just write your own stories if you're that thirsty for your OTP being totally OOC.

I was super into Nanoha, KOn and Vocaloid fanfics for a while, in that order, but the interest just kind faded away eventually. Now I'm tempted to get into them again and there is basically nothing new to read.
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>>1877060
There's only so much you can do with certain source material. But nowadays, almost every other story on AO3 is the same fandoms and pairings because they're "canon". And those ones aren't interesting in the slightest, I can say every trite romance cliché has been made into 10 korrasami fics, at least. Nobody is able to make fics for obscure fandoms because everybody flocks to the canon ones. Nobody has the imagination to spread yuri across EVERY piece of media and just resorts to making Carmilla fic #24357. But every so often, you can find the Holy Grail, all you need is dedication.
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>>1877060
There was a time when these threads would fly, and there seemed to be a lot of new stuff around.

It all feels so dead now. I don't doubt a lot of it is disconnection on my part (I don't follow any western shows or keep track of the 'scene' outside of /u/), but I was never that connected before either.

And there definitely weren't so many fucking coffee shop AUs a few years ago.

Maybe I should pick up my own fics again, or something.

To avoid pure blogposting, a currently updating fic I'm following, from a game I have never played:
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10390233/1/Burials-Unearthed
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>>1877147
go play it now
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>>1877170
Nope.

I know what it is, and Dota2 is fine for me in that regard. I can't afford more timesinks.
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>>1876263
for those interested in that Tinkerbell fic I mentioned, it's done.

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11532357/1/The-Binds-of-Sister-s
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Might as well ask here:

Whatever happened to the TV series "Ray Donovan"? I couldn't get into it with the first...3 or so episodes, but it supposedly had a lesbian character in the recurring cast.
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Anyone have any decent Naruto fics? AO3 has nothing, and I don't feel like wading through FF.net's filters.
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>>1877060
I have that feel too. Back in the day I would read and write so much Vocaloid fanfic, and I would scour AO3 for all sorts of fics (mostly AUs because I don't watch that much western stuff, and AUs are, lets face it, pretty much original stories, so I can just enjoy a nice lesbian story).

These days everything sounds samey and boring, and I haven't gotten the urge to write anything in a long time. Vocaloid is dead, Steven Universe doesn't really inspire me to write or read anything, and I was into Frozen for a bit but that was ages ago. I guess I follow Citrus but I have a feeling that everything there's gonna be bad.
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>>1878084
>Vocaloid is dead,

Mostly true because too much angsty tumblrshit. I kind of like this new negitoro though:

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/11501672/1/The-Hope-of-an-Empire

Didn't care for the author's YukarIA story but this one's pretty good so far.
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>>1879036
Angsty tumblrshit? What happened?

Thanks for the link. What didn't you like about Tokyo Intermezzo? I thought it was decent.
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>>1879036
>Mostly true because too much angsty tumblrshit

What do you mean?

>>1879078
Dont know about that anon, but Tokyo Intermezzo was too lesbian and not yuri enough for me. Not sure if that's the best way to describe it.
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>>1879078
I wrote "angsty tumblrshit" because every time I check that fandom on FFN it seems like there's a bunch of new fics where the characters are being bullied or cutting or just generally being shat on by life. Not every fic is like this but for some reason these have jumped out at me lately. Just my opinion.

I didn't have any issues with the quality of writing in Tokyo Intermezzo. It was more that I just couldn't see Yukari and IA as being the way she wrote them. Doesn't make it a bad story, just not my cup of tea. (Sex scenes were hella hot though.)

Her new story has badass!Luka in it, and I definitely want to see more of that.
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So how many people, after declaring they were writing something, actually finished/published it? I'm still waiting for that fic about Matryoshka.
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>>1879107
>too lesbian and not yuri

I'm not getting your drift. Are you trying to say that the characters were too "adult" and not cute enough? Or that there was too much sex? What does it even mean to be "too lesbian?"
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>>1879108
Most fandoms are like that anyway. Virtually no community produces quality stuff daily.

>>1879112
That's so vague. Which Matryoshka idea? Things I remember from the old threads:

Miku working at a burger place
Competing air traffic controllers
A bunch of Rondo ideas (two people delivered)
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>>1879121
>Miku working at a burger place
I still really want this. Someone please deliver...otherwise I might be forced to write it myself...sighh.
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>>1879125
>Miku working at a burger place
>Luka is the homeless woman she feeds the leftover burgers to
>Luka shows her gratitude with steamy dumpster sex

I'll alert the Pulitzer committee.
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>>1879134
>homeless

Never been a fan of these kinds of crazy ideas. If one hot shower and a fistful of chicken nuggets can turn this supposed hobo back into the tall, elegant, seductive Luka that readers commonly imagine her as, there better be some really damn good reason for how she ended up penniless in the first place.
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>>1879134
I was thinking more Miku and Luka were both poor college grads trying to eke out a living but whatever floats your boat
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>>1879167

In my mind, Luka is working a comfortable but boring office job while Miku took two years off music school. Luka takes Miku in and they start dating, but feeling guilty about mooching off Luka, Miku gets a job at a burger place to help pay the expenses.

Most of the stories will just be about their daily shenanigans, but there is an overarching development about their respective career choices that pokes its head out here and there before slowly but steadily creeping its way into the foreground.

It ends with them making up their minds about their job/school and what they want out of life, on a positive note obviously.
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>>1879121
Any of them. I know people said they were going to write something.
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>>1879180
Actually I like yours better, can someone write this please
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>>1879180
so, a story where nothing really happens, then?
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>>1880623
its a slice of life yuri story!
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>>1880623

Yes, I believe that was the point.
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>>1880623

That was my thought. Sounds boring.
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>>1879180
Doesn't sound boring to me. Would read.
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I've been really into Once Upon A Time fics lately. Is the show itself anywhere near as good, or should I just stick with the fanfics?
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>>1881477
My problem with live action fics is that I tend to visualize the actresses/actors as I read.

And they're just not kwaii uguu enough for my fantasy taste
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>>1881561
Too bad, there's a whole bunch of super cute Once Upon a Time fics. Seriously, rot your teeth sugary fluff all over that fandom.
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>>1881477
The show is a straight fanfic that as gay b8 that is never going to become anything but that.
That said i'm really looking forward to getting trolled when the producers ignore Mulan and out of nowhere make two non-important dudes gay...seriously, i'm pretty sure they are going to pull that.
They are that shitty.
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>>1881615
Would you mind posting some? I'm in need for some syrup.
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>>1882127
Sure.
Fluff:
http://archiveofourown.org/series/221735
http://archiveofourown.org/series/213470
http://archiveofourown.org/works/1702073
http://archiveofourown.org/works/2430164
http://archiveofourown.org/works/3750337
http://archiveofourown.org/works/1276552
http://archiveofourown.org/works/2727827

Fluffy porn
http://archiveofourown.org/series/153425
http://archiveofourown.org/works/1025904
http://archiveofourown.org/works/3976201
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>>1882138
Much appreciated.
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>>1882140
Any time.
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>>1881622
>That said i'm really looking forward to getting trolled when the producers ignore Mulan and out of nowhere make two non-important dudes gay
The reactions to this happening on tumblr are going to be hilarious.
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>>1879115

I guess another way to look at it is that it doesn't feel "anime" enough. It's written so well that I thought I was reading a lesbian bull dyke story at times, especially how butch and unfeminine some characters appeared.
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>>1882194
No one is going to be surprised.
That said, if Mulan is going to get any this season is going to be with Merida.
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>>1886253
Fanfics that are intentionally written to be "anime" are usually insufferable.
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>>1886308

Yea, but talking about how your date has a u shapely flat butch ass is too lgbt for me in Fanfics
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>>1886253
I'm not sure what your definition of "bull dyke" is, but if you're using any characters in Tokyo Intermezzo as a reference, you clearly don't know any bull dykes IRL. The diesels I know don't look or act anything like any of the characters in Tokyo Intermezzo. Yukari with her flat ass is totally girly by comparison.

>>1886389
The passing comments about Yukari being butchy didn't bother me, but I'm a lesbian, so whatever. Guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
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>>1886628

They're not butch by 3DPD standards, doesn't mean I wanna read about flat asses.
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>>1886253
I think I might know what you mean. I enjoyed Tokyo Intermezzo but it felt rather...'American', or 'white'. Definitely did not have much of a Japanese flavor to it. While Yukari is named Yukari Yuzuki, she might as well be named Sarah Marshall. It felt like the characters being Japanese, and the story being set in Japan, had very little bearing on the story and how the characters acted.

Of course, it's not like many fanfics read like the works of Ryu Murakami/Haruki Murakami/Natsuo Kirino etc, but a lot of them inject anime sensibilities into the story, which makes the Japanese-ness of the characters seem less incongruous than it is in Tokyo Intermezzo.

At least, that's what I thought of it.
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>>1886909
>anime sensibilities

This phrase still seems nebulous to me. What exactly do you mean? Tropes? Cliches? Certain speech patterns?
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>>1887074
>>1886909

I think it's not really an issue of trying to make the story more anime, but rather that it should be less "americanized"? Hard to put it into words right now. Maybe I'll think up some specific examples later.
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anyone know any good the 100 fics the ones i see are het
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>>1890170
You're not very good at searching things, are you?

That said, they're all shit. And the person usually involved is not at all a valid potential love interest, what with the treason and all that, so it's either AU or very very forced.
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>>1876326
I'm never into roleplay fics, but this truly had me in stitches. Great smut too. Thanks for sharing, anon.

I want to read the North Pole uprising part ;_;
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>>1876326
This one from the same author is pretty nice: http://archiveofourown.org/works/2502707
"I'm drunk."
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Anyone found any decent fanfics where the main character is bullied/picked on for being a lesbo? Bonus points if one of the girls bullying her secretly wants the V.
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Any good Gumi x Miku stories?
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>>1894002
It's not a common pairing. There are only a handful of fanfics on FFN and a couple on AO3. Most are one-shots, and none are worth mentioning.
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>>1890697
I love that one, I read most the Persona section a while back.
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New Inter Nos chapter.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/3816271/68/Inter-Nos
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>>1899015
>1,000,000 words
Oh my.
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>>1899035
Yeah, I think I'll just read War and Peace twice.
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>>1899015
By now I am just anxious that I will have invested so much time in this and its gonna go bad. Like natsuki marrying her cousin, another person dying, some more footloose. I get anxious whenever it updates, preparing for the worst
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>>1899015
I've been thinking of reading it how is it?
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>>1899015
Oh boy, time to get cozy and start reading.
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>>1899121
Do you enjoy politics and long strategy talk? Because ShizNat while being the main characters are busy conquering a country while trying to not get screwed over by senators. They get together fairly quickly though and are an item for more than a 1/4 of this I think
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Bad Romance updated after years of being dead if anybody was into that. It is probably the most infuriating NanoFate fic for me since all the stuff with Nanoha and Fate together is gold but the tens of thousands of words where they aren't interacting is completely boring and uninteresting. Seriously author, I don't need to see Fate hanging around with yet another OC girlfriend who will be dumped in a chapter or two when NanoFate fuck again. Hint at it but don't show me the stuff nobody is interested in.

Also, are there any good Cross Ange fics besides the Christmas one or did everybody abandon that show in the second half?
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>>1900671
Everyone abandoned it in the second half, though I have considered writing something for it. I'd probably have to watch at least the first cour again though.
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prototype updated:
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10664595/10/Prototype
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>>1900671

I was SO into Bad Romance at first, it practically revived my, at the time, dead NanoFate passions.

Then I just kind gradually dropped it, not sure what happened.
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Does anyone else find that most fic, no matter how well written and in character, always feels off because it's written from too much of a Western sensibility? I've never quite figured out exactly how to describe my issue with it. Is Nip fic any better if you can read moon?
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>>1900702

If the setting isn't in Japan, then what's the problem?
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>>1900711
Look at the board, then look back to my post, then think about yours again. Clearly I'm talking about anime and manga fic. In which case they generally are set in Japan, or at least a magical fantasy Japan. And even if they're set elsewhere the characterisation and setting stems from Asian and Japanese culture and experiences. If I'm reading fic for something it's because I want more of the thing the fic is written from, whether it's the further adventures of characters I liked or an embellishment of the story or setting I didn't get from the original canon. There's something unfulfilling about it when they miss that tone, like eating knock-off oreos - it's similar, but not the same and lacking a certain satisfaction.

And now I want biscuits. Dammit.
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>>1900722
>In which case they generally are set in Japan

Nope
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>>1900727
>or at least a magical fantasy Japan
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>>1900732
Eh, nah. If the setting is ostentatiously European or Tolkien-esque fairyland despite the Japanese character names, then might as well pretend it's Western.

What good is pretending something like Rondo takes place in Nipland?
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>>1900760
You don't even know what fandoms I read.
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I've really gotten into the Bechloe pairing from Pitch Perfect. Anyone have any good recs that don't have a lot of kudos on Ao3 or many reviews on ff3?
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>>1900767

It was an example. Don't be dense.
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>>1900702
I hear ya.

I don't have a problem with western fantasy AUs, but modern or historical Japan setting is almost never handled well by western authors. They often contain elements that just wouldn't fly in Japan. Japanese authors do handle these better, quite understandably.

People who don't speak Japanese probably don't have this problem, but with some settings and series, reading characters use English language itself feel awkward. With these, I hear the characters speak in Japanese even when I'm reading the dialogue in English. Hibike fics for example. I had no problem reading Japanese fics (there are really good ones). English ones, I either cringed at the obvious western elements or auto-translated the dialogue in my head.

Start learning Japanese, anon. It's never too late, and I promise it's easier than English.
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>>1900780
I'll stop when you do. There was much more to my initial post than the single point about the setting which you've chosen to latch on to apparently simply for the sake of being awkward.
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>>1900702
I feel you. A lot of English fics around JP fandoms (honestly, Vocaloid is really, really bad about this) simply feel awkward, it's too Western. I think I talked about this before in relation to Tokyo Intermezzo, but this is a problem that plagues a lot of fics other than Genki's. The characters, while Japanese, simply don't feel Japanese. They're really western. This is a problem in Hear My Song, this is a problem in Figure Drawing, this is a problem in Postage, this is a problem in Oscillation, and so on. None of these characters feel like they are Japanese in any way shape or form despite the names and character origins. I can forgive Falling, Crumbling/Of Common Blood because of the setting, but...the others just don't fit.
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>>1900788

Vocaloids don't have set personalities though and can be molded into anything. Most of those stories don't even try to pretend they're Japanese. I could see it if they try to make them Japanese idols like in On & On or something but a fic like Postage doesn't attempt to be a work where Japan or Japanese heritage is important at all.
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>>1900790
Vocaloids may not have set personalities but they're Japanese and have Japanese names and are of Japanese origin.

I can't pretend that a story where everyone has Japanese names isn't a story about Japanese people. It's not like not mentioning a character's race or nationality is going to make someone named Hatsune Miku white.
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>>1900702
Never had that problem, since most of what I like is either Western or AU. Have you tried Doujin? they're basically fan fics, but in comic form, right?
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>>1900792

I don't know, man. Luka's name could easily pass for Italian. Len isn't the most Japanese name in the world. Stuff like Gumi, IA, Oliver, and Lily aren't exactly ethnically restricted.

What if they're just Japanese-Americans? Not all Japanese people live in Japan. I've even seen that mentioned in stories before.
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>>1900785
I'm sorry you feel your masterwork of an anon post was underappreciated and only a portion of it was responded to.
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>>1900788
>Tokyo Intermezzo

This was the only one that I felt was too western. And I don't think I can really put the "blame" on the writer. I think looking at it fairly, certain words and scenes simply just triggered me into imagery that I strongly associate with real world American lifestyle.

Generally speaking, I don't have a problem with characters not being nip enough, even in stories that supposedly take place in nipland. Modern 1st world countries have a lot more in common than you'd think, especially among younger generations that practically grew up watching and listening the same stuff across the pond.
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>>1900702
Try reading fics about SoL anime, those don't have any issues.
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>>1900796
Kagamine Len? Megurine Luka? Those aren't Italian names and you know it. Oliver doesn't really count, as he is an English vocaloid.

Anyways, we can agree to disagree. For me, the simple knowledge that these are Japanese characters is enough to trigger a disconnect.

>>1900826
It's probably due to personal feelings based on reading a lot of light novels and Japanese books and stuff. Modern 1st world countries may be similar, but East Asia in general tends to have more similarities culturally with each other than with Western culture. Honestly I feel like a lot of characters are really disconnected from their roots, which doesn't sit well with me.

Disclaimer that I am also of Korean descent, so these discrepancies may stick out to me more because of that.
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>>1900856
I think it's very easy for anyone to look at their culture being presented by someone else and think "hey, that's not us!" without really giving it much critical thought.

Ultimately, you have to accept that you don't, and can't possibly, know every corner and facet of your country to stubbornly believe that something like Tokyo Intermezzo can never, ever happen somewhere near home.

T.I still felt too American to me at times, but I think what made me ultimately lose interest in the subject was the simple fact that I just wasn't that into that particular pairing. Had it been Luka and Miku in that story, I probably would have stuck around.
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>>1900821
It just seemed like a rather pointless part of it to take issue with. Would it be preferable if I rephrased it?
>Does anyone else find that most anime and manga fic set in Japan, or at least a magical fantasy Japan, no matter how well written and in character, always feels off because it's written from too much of a Western sensibility?
I actually considered phrasing it like that in the beginning anyway, but I had hoped most people would be able to understand what I was getting at without me having to phrase it like an exam question.
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>>1900784
But I already speak English ;_; I did start learning and was really dedicated at first, but between one thing and another sort of drifted away from it over the summer. I think I got discouraged as well because I didn't feel like I was really getting anywhere significant, but I probably wasn't putting enough time in to the right parts either.

>>1900793
I think part of the problem is how much doujinshi I have read, though I'm limited to stuff that's been translated, and a few Japanese fics that I've found translated over the years. There's often such a gap between Japanese and Western characterisation and interpretation of the text in them that I then find it bothers me when I go and read fic, either breaking my immersion completely or making me wonder if it's really 'right'.

And then certain ideas become ingrained in fandoms which may be completely out of tune with the original work, but once you've read a lot of fic you don't notice any more - though that's something that happens in all fandoms, Eastern and Western, as far back as Xena fic I've read.

>>1900826
I haven't read TI so I have no opinion there, but I reject the notion that global culture has become homogeneous enough for the differences to be negligible in fiction. Ireland, Britain and America all speak English and watch each others tv shows and films, and read each others books, but if you ever visit another one there's still significant differences between each of them and in turn we're much more similar to each other than we would be to any Asian countries.


I think what really made me notice the difference was reading some Nip Mai Hime fic that was translated years ago and how Natsuki in particular behaved was so different from how she was always written in English fic that it stuck with me ever since and the more I've learned over the years that more I've noticed the disparity.

I still read pretty much everything I can though.
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Anyone know of any GOOD writing advice? Websites, youtube or somestuff? I'm trying to get rid of my insecurity about writing.
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>>1901154

http://www.heretocreate.com/2007/11/01/resources-for-fiction-writing/
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Pretty great fic for Harry Potter, Narcissa x Bellatrix, that I read recently.

http://archiveofourown.org/works/4028710/chapters/9058381

I'm actually kind of crazy about this pairing now but there's almost nothing besides what's been written by this one author.
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>>1901742
>Words:258226

Long story. And he's got another 60k+ sequel. I'm always impressed by writers this dedicated to their stories.
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>>1901804
>250k
>dedication

You haven't seen nothing
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>>1901813
320k with the sequel, and he's not done yet.
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>>1901742
Aw shit I loved this fanfic back on FF.net!! Awesome rec. After this I went on a Bellatrix/Narcissa search but there really isn't much. Glad to hear that she finally started on the sequel too. Welp, time to reread and read.
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http://archiveofourown.org/works/5029501/chapters/11560339
The writing has a few typos and its relatively new, but until I read it I didn't know how much I needed a genderswapped, tsundere Nathan in my life.
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So, any good Sam/Lara fics?
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http://pastebin.com/HCmFejhx

I don't even know...
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>>1903961
I only have a list of old recs, I probably pasted them in another thread at some point, but here:

- https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9106918/1/The-Camera-Loves-You Favorite of a lot of other people
- https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9166304/1/Survivor
- http://archiveofourown.org/works/731639
- http://archiveofourown.org/works/718557
- http://archiveofourown.org/works/747937
- http://archiveofourown.org/works/753513
- http://archiveofourown.org/works/1155104/chapters/2342854 My favorite
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>>1905161
>Pre-slash, because you know how long I like to wait before I give people what they REALLY want

Dropped already
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>>1905161
>http://archiveofourown.org/works/1155104/chapters/2342854
Best fic in the fandom. Her Pitch Perfect fanfics are great too.
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>>1905161
Thanks, appreciate it!
I think I've seen TCLY rec'd in the old Sam/Lara thread, but didn't realize it's 130k of buildup? Not sure I want to go there.
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>>1905164
>>1905176
I quit too early on to say whether it was worth it, though I don't personally mind slow build, just didn't mesh with the style. But it seems to have a complete even longer sequel. https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9328531/1/The-Dreaming
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>>1905292
I remember enjoying it, I don't think I managed to get far into the sequel though. But I do like longfic.
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>>1905171
Yeah. I wish she'd write more Sleeping Warrior.
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Does any one have the full recommendation list from the old topic? archive.moe is dead, dead, dead.
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>>1905708

I have a txt file somewhere on my laptop but it's pretty old

And I'm pretty sure it was mostly Vocaloid fics
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>>1905708
4ch.be, archive.loveisover.me
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>>1905811
Do not use that first one.
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>>1905824
What's wrong with it?
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>>1905302
>longfic
Those tagged with angst usually are an overdescribed wankfest though, where the author does everything to keep them apart and unhappy.
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>>1905292
Now that I've read both of these, I'll say that although The Camera Loves You was pretty good, The Dreaming drags a lot and can be quite boring. The Dreaming also gets a healthy dose of tumblr memes and the way Lara is written makes seem almost sociopathic at times.
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>>1919600
With that length I would be surprised if if didn't drag.
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Seen a couple anons asking around for this from time to time.

Here's a rar of all the Kannazuki no Miko fics Tsuyazakura Kouyoki put on ff.net before he deleted them:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/8a8mi375llya7e6/Tsuyazakura_Kouyuki_archive.zip

Note this was not made by me. Someone else here on /u/ put them all in an archive and posted them on mediafire but I seem to have been one of only a handful to have downloaded it. Since I couldn't find the original link I decided to just rehost them on mediafire myself. One last thing. The fics are broken up into a wide variety of file types split up by chapter. I've already made two of the stories into PDFs/epubs for easier reading but I still got two more to go.
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>>1922466
Oh one other thing does anyone have any of Ange Sinestre's old Mai HiME Shiznat fics from before he deleted them? The Kyoto Hunt and Antipode is what I believe they were called. I never downloaded them.
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>>1922466
>Tsuyazakura Kouyoki
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>>1922487
Not the best stuff but he wrote some of the only decent/good KnM fics and there are almost no good KnM fics.
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any good yuri longfics?
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>>1923869
Which series? Anime or western? High school girls or adults?
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>>1923885
both
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>>1923869
http://users.eastlink.ca/~ginadartt/index.htm

Long, LONG, as in two huge seasons long, Voyager fic.

I wish something like this existed for 7/Torres, but this was fine, too.
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A thing that bothers me is when a character is supposed to speak a language I also speak (like french) and does it every now and then for emphasis / sexy foreign accent / other reasons and then the french or whatever is clearly from google translate and in a way that is never used by native speakers.
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>>1922473
http://www48.zippyshare.com/v/qcwTupnK/file.html
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Years ago I read a funny GinnyxHermione (Harry Potter) fanfic. I can only remember that the book Wuthering Heights was lend to Hermione from Ginny (or vice versa). Anyone can remember and has the link?
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>>1924776
>http://www48.zippyshare.com/v/qcwTupnK/file.html
Thank you! Been searching for an anon with these for over a year now.
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>>1925071
No problem. Antipode is what got me into Shiznat, I can understand that feeling of wanting to reread it.
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Gotta love when in fanfics of animes the characters have fried eggs with bacon for breakfast.

Maybe I should write a BR-version in which the characters eat stuff like acarajé and paçoca.
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>>1925862
But anime characters (and Japanese people) do actually eat fried eggs and bacon for breakfast.
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>>1925834
I actually never read either. Though I did read The Kyoto Hunt last night. Gonna read Antipode later. I like angsty Shiznat fics (big WotS fan) and from what I gathered this one will be just angsty enough whilst maintaining the some of the humor of Kyoto Hunt.

I did enjoy Kyoto Hunt btw. Liked that it was more the HiME Rangers taking the fight to Searrs rather than just always running and I also enjoyed that they used all the HiME rather than just a handful.
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>follow someone who wrote a KOn story years ago
>recently gettijg email alerts about him again since god knows how long
>law and order fics

Hahaha, wat
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>>1925967
For some reason Law and Order has a massive fanfic community. And NCIS, which I guess is some kind of Law and Order derivative, is like in the top 10 on ff.net.
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What are some good Ayano x Kyoko (yuru yuri) fanfics?
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>>1926733
NCIS is more of a CSI derivative. Criminal minds has something of a community as well.
A shame too since Hewitt's in some episodes.
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>>1926733
I can guess why L&O has a lot of fic, or at least SVU. The hets ship Olivia with Stabler, but Alex/Olivia was a massive subtext fandom for a while, one of the first that really got to use the internet to hold discussions and post fic.
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https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5144486/1/Infinity is finished and listed on Sugoi Story Anego but the foreword says "no romance". So what's the deal here?
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>>1929296
Nothing?
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>>1929296
>>1931129
Going out on a limb since I haven't read it but, take as they are or become a couple but it isn't ever a focus of the story.
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A /u/ fic of Tilda Swinton's Gabriel in Constantine....does such a thing exist? Google tells me no.
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I like to recommend Overlady if you don't mind a REALLY slow build up to the romance and are fond of Overlord (the vidya about conquering shit with goblins, not the vidya animu) and Familiar of Zero. It's pretty funny but the overall plot is basically Louise dealing with the fallout of her not being around to solve the problems of the plot of the original anime, becoming an evil overlady, and being really fucking deep in the closet.

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8753582/1/Overlady
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>>1934357
>deep in the closet
So does she get a harem or no?
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>>1934360
she's in a state of conflicted feelings at the moment. It's hard to explain without being spoilery outside of what is needed to describe the fic.
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>>1934371
Okay, without getting too spoilery, will she get one or is it going to be one lady?
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>>1934375
At the moment it seems she'll only end up with one mistress. The specifics of why are spoilers.

Though i will warn that there is sorta a het romantic interest but it's kinda doubtful it'll go anywhere beyond friendship, given the amount of attention the yuri ship is given.
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>>1934383
>sorta a het romantic interest
I'm not that surprised considering the actual show is close to a harem anime. However as long as the mistress wins, everything will be right with the world.
This may or may not be influenced by love for the Overlord series and how not many crossovers get above 100k.
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>>1934393
The overlord series is pretty great. Though I should also note that it's only influence is the Minion and Gnarl. There's a different history of Overlording worked into the FoZ's setting and the games themselves aren't really involved.

Also it seems probable that the Mistress will win. Assuming the law of conservation of detail means shit.
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>>1934398
The humor in the fic could be in the vein of the Overlord series as well, though that might be a stretch since I haven't read it.
Here's to hoping that the Mistress wins.
Did she at least go out and kidnap a bunch of village girls to serve as handmaidens or just maidens for the tower?
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>>1934405
The humor is similar. Also kidnapping of girls does happen, but it's not really Louise's idea.

Anything more on that is spoilery and just read the fucking fic.
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>>1934406
>just read the fucking fic.
Fine you convinced me.
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>>1934406
>just read the fucking fic
Sigh, fine.
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>>1934407
>>1934492
I have a limit to how much ai can dance around spoilers whist trying to recommend a fic. We were getting close.
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>have been reading Bella/Alice fan fics for months now
>exhausted the entire stock of the internet for ones over 30k words that aren't complete garbage
>feel empty inside now that I can't find any new ones
>don't even like Twilight

What's wrong with me, /u/?
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>>1934552
jump to Bella/Rosalie and Bella/Victoria.
Theres a couple of really big ones that got completed a couple of months ago.
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>>1934553
I've read a lot of Bella/Victoria, but all the Bella/Rose ones I've seen have been horrible.

Recommendations?
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>>1934552
That's tough, how do you feel about a Bella/Queens of Volturi or Bella/Tanya or Kate?
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>>1934493
Who's the potential mistress if that's not a spoiler.
Is it Kirche?
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>>1934554
>https://www.fanfiction.net/s/4746078/1/My-Sister-Rosalie-Book-I-Captor
This is pretty ok
>https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9830677/1/In-The-Shadows
This is really, really AU but if you enjoy GTA or Elmore Leonard type of stuff is enjoyable.

Also a Bonus:
>https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9573130/1/Alice-Bella-and-the-Stripper-Mechanic
Hilariously Bella/Rose or Bella/Alice is not the endgame.

I miss Twilightfemslash, i thought the retarded reverse genre novel was going to re-ignite the fandom but the only big 'fic' that came out of that was a literal Tumblr mess.
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>>1934558
Mother dearest hasn't even appeared in the story in person yet.

Much to everyone's relief.

Also I would think that the Mistress candidate would be fairly obvious given what I've posted thus far.
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>>1934568
Ah so that's it, well I feel silly for not catching it.
I do like the minion's focus on poetry.
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>>1934594
Yeah the named Minions are the best.

Hence why they get names.
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>>1934597
Maybe so, though I do so hope that Mother dearest is actually more like Mistress Rose than what they're painting her up to be.
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>>1934602
You mean like Rose from the perspective of the Overlad?

Incredibly doubtful, for reasons that will be clear when the narrative focuses on the de'Vallerie family's.... history.
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>>1934603
Nah, I meant Rose from the first game not Overlad.
Still it was nice to hope.
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>>1934608
Speaking of Overlad though. His options include one akin to what Louise is currently struggling with.
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>>1934552
Any recommendations for BellaxAlice?
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>>1934920
I like this one:

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4453118/1/The-Edge
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>>1934371
So 275k words and it's still not yuri yet?
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>>1935275
I wouldn't say that exactly. There is plenty of heavy implications, one f/f kiss, and a lot of one sided attraction in the lattermost chapters.
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>>1935275
There's a situation in the early chapters where it is decidedly yuri but Louise is in denial and freaks out.
It starts showing signs in the thirties and in the forties, however it's better to read it if you're a fan of the Overlord series since it helps make everything flow better. At least in getting to the yuri.
It's a nice fic all in all but the yuri isn't a centralized element. Might be when the story advances some more though.
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>>1934552
>>don't even like Twilight
I feel the same way about Once Upon a Time. Everything I've seen says it's a fairly unremarkable fantasy/drama, but I just can't get enough SwanQueen fics.
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>>1935280
You and me both. You know of any decent length ones that don't get too ridiculous in plot and are not overly AU?
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>>1934552
>>don't even like Twilight
Are there any good fics that don't require me to have more than a passing knowledge of Twilight? It seems like a pretty ripe field for fics, but I've got no interest in actually reading the books.
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>>1934493
Start giving us some [/spoiler]spoilered[/spoiler] spoilers then. That's what the tag's for. I appreciate the recommendation, but it's a really long fic, and some of us weary about starting it.
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>>1935285
You done fucked up the spoilers.

Though I will say that for people who care about their time and are concerned with the length of the fic, you might want to stay away if you're just in it for the yuri as we're at one-sided feelings stage right now and it's not likely to change all too soon.

However if you don't mind the wait, and/o if you like the humor from Overlord,then I'd say read it.
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>>1935284
well you could just watch the movies with rifftrax of course
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>>1935283
http://archiveofourown.org/works/4286724/chapters/9710208
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8849354/1/Incoming-Messages
http://archiveofourown.org/series/221735
http://archiveofourown.org/series/105326

I've got a bunch of shorter ones, but those are the only ones I have that are more than a few thousand words and not AU.
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>>1935294
Thats the only way to watch them.
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>>1935299
Ah good taste, ended up going through most of those earlier. Damn it's a struggle finding good stuff
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>>1935299
>https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8849354/1/Incoming-Messages
Read this as "Incoming Massages" and was disappointed when I realized this wasn't about the characters opening a massage parlor for females only.
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Is there post-show K-On fics where they haven't abandoned the band?
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>>1935655
>"Incoming Massages"

Would read.
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for the ouat fics will i need to watch the show in order to get the most out of fics?
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>>1935676
I found it best if I hadn't watched the show. No characterisation getting in the way of good writing.
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>>1935676
I never did. I think everything I know about the show I learned from fics, and by now I'm pretty sure I know every major plot twist up to the end of the 4th season. Just stick with it and don't be surprised if something's mentioned and you have no clue what's going on.
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>>1935683
same thing happened to me with glee fanfics. I've never watched that shit nor I'm planning to,but after reading so many faberry fics I'm confident to say I know pretty much all important storylines and characters on that show. it has never has gotten in the way of my enjoyment of said fics,on the contrary,most of my favorite fics are from that fandom and I never had put up with that crappy show.
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>>1935700
Any good ones? The only decent Glee stories I can find are porn.
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>>1935700
The first half of season 1 was pretty great. It all went downhill from there.
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>>1935760
I only read faberry,but sure,here are some of my favorites,enjoy.

Angst/Drama
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8389558/
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8155021/1/
http://archiveofourown.org/works/369406/chapters/601523it does have a happy ending,I promise
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8151492/1/
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10226805/1/
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8730271/1/

Humor/Adventure/Sci-fi/Supernatural/Fluff
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6745526/1/
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6651099/1/
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7375980/1/
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8045287/1/
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6621330/1/
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10049870/1/
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6701795/1/
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8176498/
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7660512/1/
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6845910/1/
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11578435/1/
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11095006/1/
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9525632/1/
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7384247/1/
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>>1935773
maybe,but honestly I don't care.I've already watched a compilation of faberry scenes anyway.

>>1935893
fuck,forgot to add one
http://archiveofourown.org/works/4275591
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So, why are coffee shop AUs all the rage these days?
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>>1938883
Out of curiosity I googled it to see what comes up.
The result was sort of a surprise.
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>>1938883
Gochiusa?
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>>1935279
Can't believe I missed this post. You basically summed up the yuri content far better than I did a week ago..

waiting for the author to update is god damn suffering. Especially since the spacebattles thread is dead for opportunity to talk about the fic
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Are Dead Or Alive fics popular?

It just occurred to me that I've been shipping Momiji and Nyotengu extremely hard in the past six months and have never even thought about the idea of fanfics until now.
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>>1938883
Because they're like chicken soup for the soul.
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>>1938883
They are?
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>>1939062
Video games don't generally have a lot of fan fics, especially non-story driven ones like DoA.
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>>1941106

Sounds like I need to write this shit myself.

But also establish a reputation first by producing some contents for more popular fandoms
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>>1875745
Person of interest? supposedly rootxshaw is canon
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>>1876303
>GF
a couple of drabble sets
archiveofourown.org/works/4729451/
http://archiveofourown.org/works/4716341/
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>>1875745
Agent Carter has a lot of fic for a purely subtext ship, Person of Interest has some good stuff but the characters are fairly hard to get right and the relationship is canon so it's one where you might be better served just watching. The 100 is canon and has a large fic base, canon and AU, same with Carmilla, the webseries. A simple search for f/f category fics on ao3 sorted by kudos will get you a bunch of results from these fandoms and SQ first up.
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>>1942031
Forgot to mention, the Pitch Perfect movies have inspired a lot of Bechloe fic.

And then yeah, the older fandoms, Xena, Rizzles, Glee, Buffy, Legend of the Seeker, W13, SVU, STV, CSI, SG1, DWP. Honestly, I've worked best by finding an author I liked (harper_m and fembuck are great for this kind of thing) and going through their works or finding a fandom page/tag and going through the fics, maybe on a femslash only archive even, like ralst or Pink Rabbit.
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Anyone got some good ol' angsty ShizNat fic?
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>>1944348
90% of that series' ffnet content.
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Any good Mass Effect fics which aren't Shepard/Liara?
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>>1945086

Kasumi Goto/Samantha Traynor :
http://archiveofourown.org/works/5053399

Jack/Miranda Lawson:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/699815

Jack / Oriana Lawson/Miranda Lawson:
archiveofourown.org/works/657853
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>>1945086
There's only one ME fic worth mentioning. Well, three, once the trilogy is finished. Which'll be a while.

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8019901/1/Of-Sheep-and-Battle-Chicken

I don't read it for several reasons, but the writing is published-book worthy and the story (so far) the only real thing to be done with Reapers in the given ME universe.
Expect a lot of angst, though.
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>>1945086
Seconded. I get that Liara is the only real cannon lesbian, and her only cannon love interest is Shepard, but that's no reason for the complete lack of other yuri fics.
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>>1945086
shepard/miranda

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9913383/1/The-Girl-Crush
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>>1946774
>My name is Commander Jane Shepard
top kek
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>>1934357
So when does this get /u/? I'm 35 chapters in and there's not even a single, teeny tiny sight of it so far unless you count the early jokes about Louise kidnapping maidens, which disappeared like 20 chapters ago anyway. Granted there's not been much het either but it seems to pop up in conversations more and more in recent chapters so it's not exactly encouraging reading.

This isn't anons doing a Mugino thing and reading bizarrely large amounts of subtext into jokes and friendship is it? Because rather than a case of 'possible het LI and possible /u/ LI' this really feels like 'so het it isn't even scared to make /u/ jokes' so far, a la lame harem series.
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>>1948971
If you're at 35 chapters in, you should be able to see the beginning of the thus far one-sided yuri. It gets stronger in the chapters coming up, as well as more amusing.
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>be the author of one of the longest and popular Sakura-centric stories
>slowly start steering it to be Sakura/Ino
>no one has noticed yet

Just as keikaku.
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>>1949236
Link?
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>>1946774
Good fic, thanks. Too bad the author's dropped off the planet.
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>>1923905
How come Voyager of all things has these humongous fics?

http://www.fletcherdelancey.com/fiction.html
This is even longer, it seems.
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>>1949255
>>1949236
Also curious

I've always wanted somebody to do that, write a seemingly general fic in a huge fandom like Glee or Twilight or HP or something, a good one, get tons of people into it, then slowwwwly go the lesbian route.
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>>1949236
You can't say that and then drop it without providing a link.
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>>1950161
Maybe they don't want to get ripped for self-advertising. Anyone know the big Sakura fics?
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>>1950500
Do the mods even give a shit for self advertising? The writefags have posted their own works around here before.
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>>1950502
No, not really. What makes the anons furious is if the self-advertising is spammed every thread or I suppose on this board every day. Once or twice is probably fine if there's a gap between them.
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>>1949255
>>1949896
>>1950161
>>1950506

I don't like to toot my own horn. It's one of the most popular Sakura-centric stories running right now, so you've probably either heard of it or skimmed it at some point if you're into that sort of thing.

When it goes full yurigoggles I'll post a link.
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>>1950506
Eh, if they're reasonable about it and not too obnoxious (I don't need every chapter update spammed) I don't mind.
Humility also preferred.
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>>1950510
Just fucking post it. Nobody gives a flying fuck about any horn tooting.
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>>1950512
Now it would just feel weird to post it.
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>>1950525
I will hunt this down and if I find out you're lieing, I'll be a little upset.
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>>1945086
Shepard/Brooks
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9446720/1/Gods-Monsters
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>>1949236
>>1950510
>Go to AO3 and look for fics with Sakura
>Get lots of Sasuke/Naruto stuff with Sakura as a side character, abandon plan
>Decide FFN would probably be the site to look for an anime fic, especially if started early enough to become one of the longest
>Filter down to English Sakura fics, look for those updated on Dec 31st or a little before
>Ctrl+f for " ino " in the last chapter
>Check author's favorites, has femslash fics

Is it https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5316196/1/Loyalty ?
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>>1950577
I admit nothing.
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>>1945086
https://m.fanfiction.net/s/10639348/1/
shepard/edi
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>>1950587
>>1950577
>The best was hallway off its frame

I only read the second half of the latest chapter, as expected of /u/. It's a pity that hatesex probably will not be happening in this fic. You should totally try writing hatesex some time.

As a true artist it should outrage you that your work is being viewed so shallowly.
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>>1950639
Well, I've been writing that one for years and I don't have an editor, so a few errors are sure to get through.

And writing a story strictly for the sake of one character's relationship with another is a sign of bad writing. You're writing toward a point rather than writing a story and that's bad, mmkay?
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>>1950587
>I admit nothing.
Seriously? I'm kind of impressed at myself.

>>1950642
>writing a story strictly for the sake of one character's relationship with another is a sign of bad writing. You're writing toward a point rather than writing a story and that's bad, mmkay?
I get what you mean about the criticism of writing toward a point but come now, that's just elitism for the sake of elitism, surely. A relationship can be a story in itself, hell, a snapshot of a single second can be a story.

There will probably be more people that pick this one up knowing it might lead in a more /u/ direction but can't blame people in this thread for looking for that kind of thing specifically. We already mostly know what we want in terms of general and/or het content outside of here (and so much of the time, general usually comes to be het anyway).
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>>1950642
>And writing a story strictly for the sake of one character's relationship with another is a sign of bad writing
I wouldn't say it's strictly a sign of bad writing. At least for anything short of a longfic. Having focus in a story is preferable over stories that just devolve into clusterfucks of drama.

It's bad writing when the relationship falls into an isolated bubble of plot without good reason. Friends/family/associates/enemies of the couple should be used in the lifespan of the relationship. This is especially true for any pairing that could find controversy in the setting of the work.

I don't think that writing to a point is necessarily bad either. Having an endgame in mind can be beneficial as long as one is willing to be flexible with the route they take to that point.
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>>1950653
Well, there was a reason I didn't really want to post it here yet - it's not at that part of the story. It's 170,000 words long at this point and we're only up to the chunin exams. It's just a fun little time to begin nudging things into a romantic direction for Sakura.
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>>1950642
I was just pointing out the error so it could be fixed. I liked what I read, for the record.

>writing a story strictly for the sake of one character's relationship with another is a sign of bad writing
This implies that I'm only interested in bad stories, so obviously I'm going to disagree.

I'd say it's only a sign of bad writing if your intention was to write a more expansive story. If your goal in the first place was to write a simple story that was focused on a single point, then it's entirely possible for the result to be well-written and entertaining. The intent of the author is the key variable here.

If the audience is led to believe that it's a broad story but the author intends to deliver a focused story then that's just false advertising.

If an author intends to write a complex story and advertises it as such, but delivers a focused story instead, then that's probably what people mean when they say a story is "pretentious". I've always hated that word because it's so badly-defined, thus this has been productive.

>>1950668
> it's not at that part of the story
It is if you have a haircare fetish.
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>>1950668
There are swathes of this board that are dedicated to topics that are barely anything more than teasing hints and near-crack shipping. Not everyone will call for your head if you post something that isn't yet at dykes dyking it out dykiliy as long as it appears to at least being part of something to come at the time of posting.
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>>1950681
Eh, to be fair, we didn't react too well to >>1934357

It depends how yuri he's made it yet. Have we at least reached the point where Sakura and Ino are really, really close friends?
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>>1950684
>we
I loved that story, and I'm sure another anon might've as well. However, to add to your point, I think what concerns more anons is how soon it happens or gets hinted at in something that is 100k+ in words.
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>>1950684
The reaction was hardly out for blood and I felt that the fic being a slow build was emphasized quite clearly. Not to mention clarifications of the starting points of when it becomes more /u/ relevant are present if you follow the reply chains.
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>>1950684
>Overlady was linked here
Huh, fancy that. I found it linked somewhere else a while ago, it's pretty fun, though it drags sometimes.

The yuri subtext (overtext?) with Louise's sister is the best part. You don't really that sort of thing in fanfics, usually the gay relationships are front and center, instead of being teased over dozens of chapters at varying levels of comedy.
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http://archiveofourown.org/works/5275565

A Life is Lesbians aged-up fic. Pretty good so far, author has promised to continue soon.
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>>1950713
Catt is truly one of the great parts of the fic. Also I would say that her text is pretty overt, but hilariously flying over Louise's head. Can't wait for Eleanor to get sucked into the madness
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any borderlands fics?
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Anyone have any recommendations for a good coffeeshop AU fic? I know that there's a ton of them, but what's a good one?

Don't really care about the fandom because AUs are pretty much dressed up original fiction.
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>>1950577
>over 6 years old
Goddamn, I always wonder how people manage to still be motivated to write a story for so long. I know I barely care about any of the shows and series I was into 6 years ago.
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>>1950708
There was no bloodlust, but a lot of the comments lead me to believe that people in this thread weren't big fans of slow burn.
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>>1952410
I got more of a "cautious to commit to a longfic" rather than "don't like a slow burn" aside from taht one gal.
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Are there any fresh Harry Potter fics? I really like Heromine w/ age-gap (older) woman. I liked Hermonie/Fleur but the really good ones never get updated.

Any good Disney ones that aren't Elsa/Anna
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>>1952410
There's a difference between slow burn and not knowing if it's gonna show up at all. I'm sure anons don't mind slow burn at all if the result is guaranteed or near enough. If it's very much questionable, though, it's gonna create a different reaction - even if many anons love stories for other reasons, even ones without any /u/ at all, those aren't really relevant to the thread.

In general, author confirmation will dispel all worries regardless of how the story looks, while even the most teasing story without a confirmed romance will be viewed critically, doubly so if it's long as fuck. Because people who enjoy the stories for their own merit and not because of the romance, even if they visit this thread, probably are discussing it other places.
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>>1952443
One could also apply law of conservation of detail to fics. At least to the better ones. All the attention that is given to Louise's denial about her attraction to Henrietta makes it feel like it's going to happen. Plus there are a few suspiciously specifically worded sentences, and an understanding of Overlord's characters/plot makes it reasonable to believe that there is an interest outside of the couple itself to see the two together.. Even if Overlord's actual plot isn't even present in the fic's combined universe.
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>>1952445
I mean, this is a ZnT crossover fic where Louise doesn't summon a guy from another setting. That alone set my yuri sense tingling.
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>>1952467
Good point.
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>>1934552
Holy fuck I'm in the same boat.

What are some good Bella/Alice Recommendations?

>>1934554
>>1934556
Ive always liked the Young/Older combo are there any good Bella/Queen of Volturi or Bella/Esme

I actually can't find any good Bella/Rose fics almost all of them become trash or crap. Im also a sucker for Bella Sub/Dom Fem Vamps too.
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>>1952736
>want to read a pretty good fic again
>author's account empty, pm disabled
Oh fucking hell, why do people do this?
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>>1952736
>any good Bella/Queen of Volturi
There's one and only one that I know on ff that comes close to decent which is https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9015746/1/A-New-Chapter. 111k, actually upfront about it as well (established within the first 10 chapters), completed, and gives an explanation for why it's all three queens paired with Bella.

Now to be fair, the person doesn't use a beta out of laziness and it's been a while since I've read it but it holds up from what I can recall.
The author also has quite a few Bella/Denali girl ones though those are up in the air. I think I've read the Bella/Kate and Bella/Tanya one and they were okay. I didn't really have expectations outside of just wanting something long, unusual couple, and enough skill that I could unconsciously filter out the slight mistake or two I read over.
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>>1952416
How do you feel about MinveraxMione?
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>>1952837
Damn, that sucks. I hate when that happens too. Maybe you could find them on AO3?
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>>1953089
Unfortunately no. The author also seemed to have tumblr, also gone now.
Ah hell, one less fluff fest fic, no doubt ten angstshit ones took its place already.
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Could someone please rec me some gelphie fics? Also maybe some harley/ivy?
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>>1953328
I've got some decent Harley/ivy porn if you want it:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/1169083
http://archiveofourown.org/works/431048
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>>1953328
>Could someone please rec me some gelphie fics?

The thread for them has a few recommendations.
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>>1952837
I never understand that. I have shit on ff.net I'm embarrassed by, but it still gets reviews and faves so I just changed the account name and abandoned it. Clearly someone is still enjoying it.
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>>1952928
Got any recs?
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>>1953791
Got anything your against or do you not care as long as it's decent?
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>>1952837
>>1953775
I did that five years ago when I hit a massive writer's block and all writing made me feel incredibly anxious. I nuked the handful of short fics on my account and haven't properly gotten back to writing since. I honestly regret doing it now.
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>>1953802
Nothing too rapey (unless it's funny), minimal het, other than that it's fair game.
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>>1953821
What's worse is I gave a few reviews, and it was pretty much top 10 of the fandom for me, top 5 if you exclude short stories.
I figure it's a good thing I download everything I like, I guess.

Unrelated, but kinda related,
>give a comment on ao3, notice that author responds to everyone with at least a thank you
>my comment is the only one without a response
>my comment is not the most recent one
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>>1953855
[A Paradox named Siobhan]
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5617770/1/A-Paradox-named-Siobhan
S: My take on the Time-turner concept. HG/MM.

[Eighteen Again]
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10203246/1/Eighteen-Again
S: Minerva couldn't have possibly foreseen the consequences of protecting one of her young Muggleborn students when she jumped in front of a flying potions vial. Now she's eighteen again and having to face adolescence once more. Uncontrollable emotions, a raging Scottish temper, a Gryffindor sense of adventure, and entirely unwelcome hormones! (Hermione/Minerva)

[To Everything There Is A Season]
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6428822/1/To-Everything-There-Is-A-Season
S: Set some years in the future, Hermione is a 29 year old widow with two children - Minerva is interested. This story tells the progression of their relationship over 4 seasons. HG/MM and is actually DH compliant.

[A Week and a Date]
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10473647/1/A-Week-and-a-Date
S: Harry realizes that his best friend, Hermione, has it bad for Professor McGonagall. He challenges her to woo their teacher; after all, Hermione has never met a challenge she couldn't face. In fact, she usually goes above and beyond expectations. This time would be no different.

[Becoming Helen]
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9878799/1/Becoming-Helen
S: Hermione decides that if Minerva would never love a woman as young as she was, then the simple solution was to make herself older...at least until she'd successfully won her Professor's heart. MM/HG.

[The Courtship of Rose's Mother]
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8252124/1/The-Courtship-Of-Rose-s-Mother
S: Young Rose Weasley with the help of Twinkie the house elf scheme to find her mummy the right match.

[The night before Christmas]
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8833330/1/The-night-before-Christmas
S: A few years after Hogwarts, it's Christmas Eve and Hermione gets a surprise...

[Yes, She Wrote]
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10375748/1/Yes-She-Wrote
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>>1953855
>>1953881
There's obviously more out there, but those are some that stuck out. Do note however, that a common trope for the pair is magic dick/enlarged clit to explain children so be a touch wary. I'm pretty sure most of the ones I linked don't involve that. If they do I apologize.
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>>1953884
>that a common trope for the pair is magic dick/enlarged clit
Literally why, is Radclyffe writing HP fanfics or something?
Thanks.
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>>1953937
Yeah it's real stupid though why it stuck specifically for that pairing probably has to do with their usage/exploration of figuring out what transfiguration can do. Some of the deeper MinveraMione fics speculate that it could lead some quantum/nuclear processes via magic or very dangerous in the vein of transfiguring an artery into thread or something.
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>>1952837
>I've waited years for the story, "Strangers Together" from fictionpress to update, maybe four, five months ago the author said they will some day come back to it but hasn't touched it in years.

>It's about a human, sheltered princess being arranged marriage to a young Elven Queen in a far away land.

Has great world building and story but once you've read it you might become infected with the need to fill that void. I've yet to come across a story be it /lit/ related or fan-fiction/press related with a Human Woman and a Elven/Mystical Queen/Princess story and have wonderful building.
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>>1955288
There was a book I read once with a human/banished elf princess pairing, starts promising but goes shit fast.
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>>1953861
Lol, ouch.

What was the fic you liked that's gone? Now I want to know if it's something I liked and if so, can I bum it off you.
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>>1955887
How I Met Your Mother.
It had nothing to do with the shitty series, except maybe the vaguest of ideas.
I don't know why I responded to that Twilight post, must have forgot to delete the link. The fic was for Frozen. I can dig it out if you want.
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>>1956286
Oh, sorry then. Not a Frozen fan, thought it might have been Alice/Bella.
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>>1953821
My anxiety was so bad I couldn't even log into my account, but by the time it passed I didn't care anymore so I was like, let them read terrible fic! Though I actually really like the last two things I wrote and I want to continue them but I never want to be associated with that account again even though no one remembers me. Whoops?
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>>1956966
The solution is elegant: write fanfiction of your fanfiction. Just blatently steal the previous concept and go forward guns blazing.

On a only somewhat related note, one day I'm going to fix that one elsa fic where the story does a complete 360 at the precipice of the climax and moonwalks into a sudden and sloppy ending where elsa conveniently gets maneuvered into everything she could have wanted with no logical reasons, control from her or obvious concequences. Fuck that shit. How can someone fuck up such a simple premise which literally writes itself and has to be only followed through to the inevidable bad end?
Forever mad.
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>>1949407
yeah sucks i know
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>>1957248
Which one?
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>>1957248
Also
>complete 360
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>>1881561
The solution is to first look at a ton of fanart. With a bit of luck, you'll start seeing the characters from your favorite drawings.
>>1881615
>Seriously, rot your teeth sugary fluff all over that fandom.
I might need to get into that asap. Every fandom I try lately is bleak and angsty shit.
>>1879184
It's easy to say you're going to write something but then get stuck. I'm in that boat right now.
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>>1952837
>>1952837
Something similar happened to me, except it was a smut fic I found with just the right mix of childhood destroying goodness and hot girl on girl action. Luckly, this was back when I was on a bend about saving all the porn I found instead of just bookmarking it, so I think I might still have it somewhere.
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>>1957265
elsa is suffering
If you haven't read it:
be advised, it's awful, though at one point it isn't far from being almost not a complete waste of everyone's fucking time

>>1957267
>moonwalk
3d pic related, avert eyes
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>>1957436
There was only so much I could subject myself to before getting fed up with all that wangst that didn't go anywhere.
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>>1957453
Right, it's crap, but it doesn't have to be. I even made this scientific graph to illustrate how suffering went wrong. I'm not really a scientist, though, so the graph might be less than perfect.

Angst can be good and satisfying. It only needs a premise with a plausibly inherent tragedy and a competent execution. The suspense here isn't whether or how our hero triumphs in face of adversity, but in the futile struggle to reach the impossible goals they have set for themselves. There is never any doubt about the certainty of a bad end, but the thrill is in the fight, in the small victories and the setbacks against the ever-present tension of the hopelessness looming over everything.
>Why do we rise, Bruce, only for us to inevitably fall again?
The climax isn't going to be their brightest moment but their darkest hour when they fall from the very heights they fought so hard to reach. Though it's not the fall that kills but the landing and this can be a rewarding and a memorable character defining moment.

The premise of suffering has it all. A broken girl in love with her sister - there's never going to be a happy end for that. Even if she'd get the girl, she'd be still banging her sister which is all kinds of fucked however one were look at it. Doing the right thing is hurting them both and keeping them miserable. All that's needed is a sliver of hope to get the snowball rolling and riding the avalanche down to the village at the bottom of the valley.
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>>1957531
Where suffering fails fundamentally is the execution. The beginning is aimless rambling setting up the same premise and characters over and over again. Then, suddenly and unexpectedly, it finds its feet in middle. The plot starts almost dancing to the proper beat. There's gauntlet set up between her and her goal and she steps forward. She triumphs, she falters, she falls, she rises and she soldiers on. It's great. Then she's at the greatest hurdle, the insurmountableness of which rests upon the very founding logic of the story itself. This is the pivotal moment where she must fall, answer for her deeds and truly face herself at the bottom. And it's robbed from her. All the other characters stand up, start clapping and congratulate her and bend backwards to accommodate her. Even the character of Elsa itself is baffled by all of this and goes through the rest of the story as a passive piece only witnessing all the frantic and last-minute shuffling around her. And then it just ends on an 'Okay then?'
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>>1957532
>>1957531
I... You kinda put a lot of thought into it.
I only gave it a passing glance because everyone was talking about it like it was the hottest shit ever, but I'll never trust again. The whole premise was shitty from the get go - while it's nice to see a flawed character, it's not particularly interesting if the whole story is an exercise in self-flagellation.
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>>1957536
It was hot shit because it was sort of everybody's or 'our' collective brainchild. Hence the disjointed nature of the first chapters. Elsa and suffering was initially made by (a segment of) 4chins for (a segment of) 4chins (that there is overlap with tumblr and who knows what else or that the story took on a life of its own is irrelevant at the moment). The premise is simple and relatable (for a segment) - she's alone togather and pining for an impossible waifu and she knows it - and the angst is logical and rational.

I apologise in advance for blogging.
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>>1957753
It doesn't really decend into self-flagellation since that would imply that she'd would go around hurting as many people as possible so she can blame more and more stuff on herself and derive more and more pleasure from punishing herself for it. In the story, an the premise especially, she's actively trying to minimise and contain the circle of hurt. Not because it feels good, but because it's logical and rational.

The self-hurt(ing?) itself shouldn't be a problem since it's a natural part of the premise, it's not something the author has invented and made up and added to the premise just because
>angst, yo
It can still be a problem when the author doesn't employ it organically and it becomes repetetive, tiresome and overt and again something that exists for its own sake.

In the premise, however, it's justifiable. Elsa is a logical and a rational (to an extent rigidly so) person with moral upbringing. She knows what's considered right and wrong, that her feelings certainly aren't normal. She can't blame Anna since she's completely innocent and pure in Elsa's eyes and certainly isn't guilty of seducing Elsa. As a logical and a rational person, that leaves only one culprit for Elsa to blame - herself. And she hates herself for being unable to stop the taint, the wrongness, she sees this as a fundamental weakness, a sure sign of her ingrained depravity, wickedness, because otherwise she'd be able to overcome this whole thing. But her morals and rationality won't let her embrace it either. That would mean not only failing herself even more but also every person and ideal important to her. She can't do that. Not because she's got a martyr complex or a thing for BDSM, but because she's a fundamentally good person in an impossible situation.
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>>1957754
So she does the only rational and logical thing she can think of - that which causes the least amount of hurt to everyone. She tries curing herself by isolating herself from the temptaion. This backfires as Anna is hurt and now Elsa feels guilty and again can't help but feel justified hating - she would hate the kind of person who couldn't even more - the source of that hurt - herself. And she's angry at her the world -
>She's trying so hard! How can doing the whole thing feel so shitty? Are the morals she's been thought wrong?
and at herself -
>No! That would imply that her parents are wrong and that's just not possible. Also, Anna is completely normal. So it has to be her, it's always ultimately her fault. She can't shift the blame.

So, by the beginning of the story she's got a lot of hate and anger directed at herself. As she sees this as completely justified and necessary and inevitable. This manifests as anger, self-hate, self-depreciation, self-doubt, anxiety, isolation, asocial dendencies. Flagellation doesn't really come into play. It's not something she derives pleasure from nor even something she has a choice in. She wants to have a way out but she can't see an acceptable one. That's why she is quick to go down any rabbithole with even a slight promise of absolution from all the hate and anger and guilt. In the end she just wants to be normal.
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>>1957755
I still think it's moronic misery wank and to read it in full one has to exhibit masochistic tendencies.
>blogging
Didn't you have a thousand threads for that?
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>>1957818
>it's moronic misery wank
As the story is now, yeah, probably to a degree, though I'd argue its failings are more niuanced than that as it ultimately fails at misery as well. The premise, however, has potential to be so much more. It's just that the, well, not the author, the writer couldn't pull it off.

>to read it in full one has to exhibit masochistic tendencies
Ehh. As valid as saying that stating that requires requires some level of faggotry.

>Didn't you have a thousand threads for that?
Pardon ?
Should I've apologiesed for a wall of text instead? I think I should have. Welp.
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