Why is Asian cinema far surpassing that of the West now?
Is it because hollywood has their heads too far up their asses to realize big budget and cgi does not make a good film?
You be the judge.
Why not now? Don't tell me they are falling for the green screen meme....
Korean cinema is basically Hollywood 2. It's all edgy fedora dog shit. It gives plebs the ability to say they've seen foreign films and allows them to keep the same type of enjoyment they get from Blockbusters.
Jackie Chan talk about this a lot. Hong Kong gave him as much time and money as he needed to make his films.
American productions are too rushed and too concerned with the bottom line to be any good.
Yes. Was very a good. another movie to fuel my hatred for modern day western cinema.
Its because they want mass appeal and don't care about cinema, it is a business after all.
Thank god for the Koreans.
Just watched Kikujiro today. I liked it a lot even though not much happened. It reminded me of Slice Of Life anime tbqh. it was cute
korean cinema is pleb shit
it's just like hollywood movies but it's foreign so highschool pseudo-cinephiles can gloat and claim they're watching superior movies than their peers
Hong Kong cinema died around the mid 2000s. Kung fu Hustle briefly revitalized it, along with Infernal Affairs and so on, but sadly, it's not the international affair it once was.
I like korean cinema because of the focus on dark police thrillers. I also like how fucking violent koreans are. It seems like the go-to response for everything is to kick a nigger in the solar plexus.
More films like Mr. Vengenace?
>focused on popping colors, attention to detail
>precise film composting
It's very Kubrick-esque. But unique in its own way.
10/10 film. Western critics are fucking retarded and choke dick on Tarantino's shit. Can't believe they rated this how they did.
stay on /b/ or watch good korean movies instead, kid
Crossroads of Youth
Tale of Cinema / Night and Day
Timeless Bottomless Bad Movie
Strokes of Fire
Why Has Bodhi-Dharma Left for the East?
Breathless (Yang Ik-Joon)
Take Care of My Cat
In the 50's and early 2000's. Mr. Vengeance came out 14 years ago.
The only post-1960 Asian filmmakers with an iota of artistic merit are Kitano, Tsukamoto, Kim Ki-Duk and the 1980s films of the Fifth Generation.
Mentioning Koreeda, Kiyoshi Kurosawa, Lee or any Hong Kong filmmaker just demonstrates your status as a pleb.
There are some phenomenal works coming out of Asia, but there are no modern day Kar Wai Wongs, Suzukis etc. Maybe Sion Siono and Boon Jong Ho (sp?), but you can count them on your fingers.
This got me too, I kept trying to find a copy, but only got Richard Gere in some bullshit 90s drama.
>Trip faggot calling others plebs
>Why is Asian cinema far surpassing that of the West now?
don't know about that
>Is it because hollywood has their heads too far up their asses to realize big budget and cgi does not make a good film?
How can gooks express so much emotion with so little dialogue or exposition?
Oh wait. IT'S CALLED SERGIO LEONE.
Good list. Bedevilled seems out of place though.
Is Crossroads of Youth really that good? I've only ever seen you and some other guy
who was probably youmention it. Everything else I've seen or intend to see.
Koreans make fucking dope action movies though
The Good, The Bad, The Weird is one of the best action movies I've seen
jew social engineering to dumb down populace
>chinese cartoons have deep themes of existentialism, the human condition, religion and society
>the average hollywood adult movie is holocause lgbt oscarbait or capeshit
Kitano is a fucking amazing film director.
A Scene At Sea is a masterpiece.
He's the cinematic equivalent of Hemingway in my opinion. He strips the medium of the excess and is able to make his stories compelling despite their apparent simplicity.
Everybody can enjoy Lady Snowblood, Zatoichi & the Lone Wold & Cub series.
Here's some good stuff, listed by how accessible I think they are.
Nakashima (Confessions, Memories of Matsuko)
Satoshi Kon (Tokyo Godfathers, Millennium Actress)
Sion Sono (Love Exposure, Why Don’t You Play in Hell?)
Yoji Yamada (Twilight Samurai, The Hidden Blade)
Kiyoshi Kurosawa (Tokyo Sonata, Pulse)
Akira Kurosawa (Seven Samurai, High and Low)
Kobayashi (Harakiri, Samurai Rebellion)
Kon Ichikawa (Fires on the Plain, Burmese Harp)
Imamura (Black Rain, Vengeance is Mine)
Mizoguchi (Sansho the Bailiff, Ugetsu)
Koreeda (Air Doll, Nobody Knows)
Teshigahara (Woman in the Dunes, Pitfall)
appreciate the time you took to make the list, thanks mate.
>I watched some manga adaptations so obviously all modern Japanese movies are bad
You're right, but it think it would be fair to can there are always exceptions to the rule. There are definitely films where he takes the more traditional approach to narratives.
not him but japan has a lot of great films so I assumed the same thing as him when I read those posts. the only really shit movies they have ARE manga adaptations and horror. Most of their dramas are 8/10 and the shit gets so real it's hard for me to watch at times.
Us is producing significantly more mid-or-low-budget "art" and good films. The fact that Koreans make a few good films every few years doesn't mean they're "far surpassing us."
Also, survivor bias. We're only seeing the best of the best movies they produce that manage to make purchase in western markets. They produce 10x more garbage than we'll ever know.
He's a hit or miss regardless of genre.
Himizu and Love Exposure are my favorites from him though, I really love those films.
Anyone watched the kirishima thing?
I hope you're joking. It was terrible. If you want a GOOD western with a taste of east to it then you need to look up some "red westerns" of the Soviet era.
White Sun of the Desert is a good start
There's nothing really interesting about it. It's not a "Korean Western" it's just a Korean movie ripping off of old Spaghetti westerns. It's also too long, and drags out, the characters are forgettable, it's cartoony but is too afraid to embrace that fact because it still wants to taken somewhat serious. They should have just gone full Stephen Chow with it and made it an all out absurdist comedy.
Even that's generous. It was dead in the mid to late 90's when Hollywood started nabbing their directors.
I'm old enough to remember when high schoolers actually got excited about seeing a "new" John Woo or Jackie Chan film.
I don't think any kids now get really pumped about, for instance, Johnny To's Drug War.
it is generous, but I was thinking about Shaolin Soccer and Kung Fu Hustle which were huge. A number of Hong Kong films were shown internationally during this time. Now, hardly ever.
Stephen Chow was it though, really. Stuff like Infernal Affairs or Johnny To films played well to fans of the genre/country, but it wasn't like the semi-mainstream success they had in the early 90's.
I watched Stephen Chow's new film the other day. Highest grossing Chinese film ever.
It was pretty bad t b q h
Because they dare to make movies that are more philosophical in nature, and not just either action or some kind of hip politically correct minority issue. A good example is Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter and Spring. It's beautiful in its simplicity and calm, and philosophical without being pretentious.
Guys, wake me up when Hong Kong doesn't make retarded films with terrible actors/actresses that are based on looks than their acting skills.
Also, most of their movies are sex appeal for cheap money gains... it really is a shame. You can literally call Hong Kong cinema the "Whore of Cinema" because of how much shit they pump out.
I guess its just that all the old and good actors/actresses are gone in HK... tell me, are there any more good Hong Kong movies that I have missed? Anything with poor CG is an instant 0/10...
Here is the movie I've recently watched and rather enjoyed: Infernal Affairs.
think about that for a second: Copycat of Infernal Affairs won Oscar.