How has this movie had such little pop culture impact despite the massive amount of hype it received?
Nobody is quoting the film. None of the characters are particularly memorable. Nothing iconic has come out of it. Discussion of the film itself has dried up on /tv/ after a mere month; nobody is even bothered enough to speculate about plot points.
The only reason this film will even be vaguely remembered over the next few years is because the Disney marketing machine won't let you forget it. After that, nothing. For a franchise that has historically been exceedingly culturally enduring, is this movie an abject failure?
It added nothing new to the series. All it did was get people to say "Hey, remember star wars?" then they thought about how much they loved the original trilogy as a child. There was no substance or imagination to the force awakens beyond that nostalgia grab.
History will prove Lucas' bold and audacious prequel trilogy to be held in higher regard than this nostalgia bait disney shit.
No, I'm saying Star Wars already had a MASSIVE pop culture impact, everything from Dodge setting up an ad with Darth Vader/accompanying stormtrooper-painted vehicles to just about every page on my facebook feed trying to string together some connection between them and star wars. I'm talking about all the Star Wars merchandise, quotes and fanbase that has existed for decades.
In other words, what "pop culture" impact did this movie need to have that the entire franchise didn't already? Everyone I know who loves Star Wars still talks about it, and it snatched up new fans along the way...I'm not sure what you expect outside of that.
>History will prove Lucas' bold and audacious prequel trilogy to be held in higher regard than this nostalgia bait disney shit.
Honestly, I went to see tfa, I thought it was good but then I rewatched the prequels and came to appreciate them.
Tfa was the weakest starwars
That's entirely historical pop culture impact from the OT.
Where is the impact specifically generated by the new film? Just because the original trilogy had a massive impact, doesn't mean sequels have can't also do the same.
Even Frozen will have had more of a lasting pop culture impact than this film.
Use the right poster pleb.
seriously how can you fucking children talk about this shit film for this long
how is it enjoyable to you
why are your lives so invested in this meaningless trash
why won't you ever just stop talking about it
It was a failure, yup. It was just the usual bland garbage that gets spewed out these days, except with lightsabers. They tossed in some old characters ( who didn't behave like themselves at all) and upped the nostalgia factor a bit. China didn't get hyped up by nostalgia and saw the movie with a relatively clear mind and thought it sucked. It's bombing heavily there, as it should've been here.
Zemeckis should have directed it.
McQuarrie should have written it.
Disney should have invested in more animatronics.
7 just didn't have the emotional element to it. Everything was forced. I was more sad to see Anakin and Obi-Wan fight in episode 3 than I was to see
Han Solo die. Which is really saying something since he universally much more likable than bitchy Anakin
So this isn't in the movie itself but have you not seen this?
This shit is everywhere. Millenials love Kylo Ren and his teen-angst charicature. If nothing else, he's going to be a pop culture icon. Maybe not on a Darth Vader level, but he's pretty big.
It's been out for a month. We don't know what impact it will have yet. This really is the instant gratification generation. You expect answers this soon.
>"You know what I come for."
>"I know where you come FROM."
I've been quoting to myself the banter between Kylo & Lors for WEEKS now. I thinks its one of the most iconic Star Wars scenes ever. Kylo Ren's menacing voice mixed with his composed demeanor bouncing off of Lors unflinching confidence was fun to watch on screen. Like he sees thru Kylo's bullshit. He knows he's a wannabe.
I don't know man, that Jakku scene was very iconic to me in and of itself. Different one of the best Star Wars moments of all time.
>"You are so right"! *SLASH*
Fuck! Kylo was so GOAT man I can't wait till episode 8.
>Still needs to pull in over $220 million to beat Titanic
>Made $2.2 million yesterday, now slipping out of the box office charts
Where are all the Cameron BTFO shills now?
It was like a great film trailer running at feature length... You can tell that they want to tell the darker story a lot more.
This. Disney ruined it themselves by trying to canonise the character. They gave him a name and a face, and it ruined the fun.
Disney cannot do sci-fi. They're cursed in regard to it.
I also liked the scene where Rey said:
>"I'm an overpowered shitty fanservice character"
And Fn2894758 said:
>"I am the token black character, with a stupid arc and am basically just here to make the cast more diverse"
And BB8 said nothing because he is just there to look pretty for merchandise
GOD TIER STUFF
Such a short sighted generation. We won't know what sticks until years from now. This once of the most viewed movies ever. I doubt it will go the way of Avatar and have nothing burned into popular culture. It's Star Wars. Kids today will dictate what is culturally relevant about it in the future.
lol han shot first isn't a facet of star wars' cultural impact, han shot first is an artifact of the earliest meme culture.
Its is a contribution to the meaningless ephemera in the dustbin of history as described by Hideo Kojima, not something meaningful and distinct on its own.
May the force be with you is an example of something from star wars leaving an impression on the collective cultural consciousness.
Whoa Satan take it easy with your outrageous claims.
Seriously though, it felt completely out of place and the movie derailed during that scene, never entirely regained its footing.
>Worldwide release is done
>Merchandising blitz is over
>Knocked off top spot worldwide by Oscar bait, a Chinese knockoff of Zootopia, Ride Along 2 and Yo-Kai Watch depending on what part of the world you're in
>Tomorrow it will make less than $1.5 million worldwide
>B- but it's going to beat Avaturd! M-muh space opera... J-Jim BTFO...
Get real. It'll be gone from most cinemas in two weeks time.
To better add to this guy's point, think of it this way, even as widely regarded as failures as they are, the prequels still have had more cultural impact than episode 7. Think about it, plenty of people quote and can recall characters and plot points from the prequels. Yes, it's often because of how utterly fucking retarded they were, but they still LEFT AN IMPRESSION.
This movie was like fast food. Once you're done eating it, you never think about it again.
It's a mediocre film that actually manages to have less charm than the prequels. Well that's not entirely correct - although poor the prequels had charm. This shit has none at all.
What's the pop culture impact of the prequels?
There's literally nothing memorable about them besides the score
The first act surprised me by being really good. The Stormtroopers emerged as intimidating characters for the first time... too bad that didn't last!
Couldn't expect more from JJ.
This is his thought process.
>Remember Episode IV? Han was being hunted by Jabba in that movie.
>Now he's being hunted by these guys.
>See? Pottery isn't that hard.
Battles were neat.
Some of the lines were so goofy they were memorable.
Some of the characters were so stupid they were memorable.
Nice space scenes, both in and out of combat, very star wars flavored.
Yes, but not literally within five minutes of the character becoming an internet meme. They usually waited for a character to gestate in the public's consciousness before fleshing them out, like Boba Fett or IG-88.
Also the old EU did a better job of it. TR-8R is now officially some ugly ginger guy who's good with a stick and trained with Finn. That's it, the best they could come up with.
Their awfulness/dullness/cheesiness. Jar-Jar, testicled-faced Sheev with his UNLIMITED POWAH, Mace Dindu, dude sand lmao, Anakin being a shit character.
The prequels are a case of "so bad, it's memorable".
You're looking at this just a few weeks after release. Let the new movies develop and we'll see how lasting Kylo Ren, BB-8, and various quotes that come from the movies become.
That's because it's the story of the Republeeek!
Yeah, they could have used half as many effects shots by slowing down to build up the mood, but TFA didn't really take much of a breath, either.
I remember just this far in after TPM was released. Every kid wanted to be Darth Maul. That Halloween every kid was Darth maul. Emo Ren isn't anywhere close to having that effect.
It had its pop culture moment. The only people who give a flying fuck about Star Wars anymore are sad humans who are hopelessly addicted to these movies as cinematic heroin.
Honestly, most millenial generation youth are too apathetic and too busy texting shit on their mobile devices for any kind of escapist pop culture to really exist anymore.
what the fuck did you faggots really expect? Nothing ever will live up to the original star wars trilogy. as for the prequels I thought they were pretty disappointing but there were scenes and moments in all three I loved. I'm a casual who doesn't take movies very seriously and I thoroughly enjoyed TFA. maybe I'm a pleb but I have too much other more important bullshit to worry about than sit around and have a nitpicking circle jerk about cinema autism. The Force Awakens was a very enjoyable two hours, I look forward to the next one.
I'm talking about the Cam Kennedy comics, you idiot.
>I read about the Holiday Special on io9, I'm a real nerd!
The animation gives you nothing of his backstory other than that he takes bounties from the Empire and doesn't like Han.
>le Avatar copypasta
I liked the new Star Wars and even I'm getting sick of how it's still brought up literally every day, not just on /tv/ but in real life. Ever since Christmas my wife's son has gotten so many Star Wars toys that I needed to buy a second cùckshed just to store them.
So what was the first order? Were they remnants of the empire or some new thing? What are their goals? Do they want a new empire or do they just want to destroy stuff? Am I supposed to feel anything other than pity for these poor troopers conditioned from childhood?
>the rebellion restores the republic
>republic can't even muster up an army to fight the new world order
>leia and other old fucks have to form a "resistance" to combat these goobers
How was the empire wrong, again?
Good questions, for another time.
No, that would have been great. It would have shown that the OT's fight wasn't in vain and that they had regained a republic. It would have also given more context to everything else. Too bad the movie was complete shit though.