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Continuing from the last thread, discuss color grading, post your fixes, etc.

Just finished this one, drowned out a lot the nasty murky green to give it a more neutral blue tone that the scene should go for.
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All the redditors are going to show up and try to explain how "color invokes feeling" regardless of whether or not the color grading is applied properly

for instance, blue filters over snow scenes aren't always bad, just a lot of the time when it is unnecessary

prime examples of awful color grading are the LOTR Extended Edition Blu Rays, The Matrix rereleases, and more recently, The Force Awakens
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Not really related to the thread, but what was the whole point of this movie? I didn't find any of the characters likeable at all and the story didn't seem to have a point.
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>>65131696
I spun my office chair around in the air while shouting the word memes. That is the only response your post deserves, child of Nolan.
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>>65131489
there's something wrong with the bottom picture
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>>65131759
Fuck off, this movie is literally the first in years that made me feel bored and hoping for it to end soon
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>>65131828
ICKLE NOLANTINO BABY SHOULD STICK TO HIS VIDEO GAMES.

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do NOT fuck with blade runner

that is shit you don't mess with
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>>65131489
The top looks like an art and the bottom image looks like home video. Prove me wrong reddit.
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>>65131597
>it's still redditor who thinks he's a /tv/fag episode
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>>65131906
The top is murky and tone biased while the bottom is leveled and more harmonious within the frame.
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>>65131971
do this sentence again but with 2x the buzzwords
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>>65131872
How about some actual arguments retard?
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>>65131597
If I have that matrix bluray boxset with all the films does that mean I have the fucked up grading one? It's a europ release if that makes a difference
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>>65132034
You first. Likeable characters being necessary in a movie is a normie meme. A plot you find compelling in a movie is a normie meme. The expectation of "entertainment" from a film is a normie meme.


Now run off to /v/. You are memes, you are reddit, you are memes you are reddit.
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>>65131489
Both renditions offer good things. The top one gives off the essence of almost being underwater considering the rain and dark hue (which is fitting, considering what is happening in the plot at this point), but the bottom one has more color vibrancy, making the scene more beautiful. They can provide 2 similar yet unique feelings depending on how it's colored. That's why different cuts of a movie can exist.
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>>65132114
I understand the "likeable characters" part but then
>A plot you find compelling in a movie is a normie meme
>The expectation of "entertainment" from a film is a normie meme
I get it, the movie is supposed to be art then? Like those retarded-looking abstract paintings in art museums, I'm supposed to look at some weird non-sensical piece of shit and derive some "emotion" from it, right?
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>>65132248
ADULT VIDEO GAME PLAYER.


WON'T EVEN READ YOUR POST.


LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>65131971
>ignores the world/environment the shot is set in
The main fucking reason to have artificial tones is to establish the world the movie is set in and for the expression of emotions. For example, in Mad Max, the movie is mostly orange to show how harsh the wasteland is and how the people adapted and react to it.
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>>65132034
You first. This is widely regarded as one of the best films ever.
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>>65132278
Could you at least act like you're 18+ and try to have a proper discussion?
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>>65132359
>says the man too underage in sensibility that he can't appreciate Blade Runner

I WANT POOPIES


I WANT POOPIES

PRRRRRRRRRRRRPPTPPPPPT

I LOVE POOPIES.
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>>65132342
Lol reddit, it's only regarded for its special effects and sets. Otherwise it's just a film not a cinema.
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>>65132248
>>65131696
It's a vision about our society, or rather how the director thought the future would look like with all the technological breakthrough. How it could all evolve to the point we couldn't make the differences between us and the technologies we create to accommodate us. But you can continue to shit on this classic like you understood a thing anyway, you're on /tv/
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>>65131489
it took me a while to get used to it but this restored version that doesn't use a filter looks better in this one for MOST instances
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>>65132531
There are several video games that cover that topic with far more depth and entertainment value. With more enjoyable characters too. Blade Runner is a redundant historical artifact. No reason to actually watch and delude yourself into enjoying it in 2016 unless you're the kind of cunt who smokes a pipe and rides a pennyfarthing to work. Blade Runner is affectation and I am the last voice of authentic unpretentious thought on the internet.
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>>65132464
As a non-involved observer of this stupid argument up to this point: please just fucking stop, both of you. To begin with, Blade Runner is probably my favorite movie. Mr "I don't get this movie" can't even look deep enough into it to understand the appeal, while Mr. "Call everybody reddit and scream caps lock" is making an absolute ass out of himself and is doing nothing to explain his viewpoints on the movie. Very productive thread.
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>>65131696
>the story didn't seem to have a point.

I laughed. I suggest you watch Avatar in 3D instead, the movie explores some similar themes but does them at kindergarten level so that it is easier to understand. I think you will enjoy it.
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>>65131696
>story didn't seem to have a point

THE FUCKING ANTAGONIST LITERALLY STATES HIS MOTIVATIONS MULTIPLE TIMES
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>>65132632
>le reddit voice of reason offend nobody middleground voice of reason observer standpoint


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>>65132743
Hi. You must be the caps lock guy from earlier. Pleasure to meet you.
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>>65132627
I did a resume, the movie covering this theme is only a part of the whole story, you can shut your ass all you want because you recognized the subject somewhere else, it's doesn't change the art of this movie. And like the "reddit-memer" said earlier, a movie don't have to show relatable character to be good, in fact the fact that you take this point as a bad point only show that you don't relate to a robot and a kind of space cop, not that the character are bad. Look behind you're little opinion, maybe you'll see something new
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>>65132832
DEY SAY YOU LEDDIT POSTER.
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so this thread isnt about color grading anymore huh
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>>65132719
What are you expecting ? Some /tv/edditard to take attention to a movie without texting on their phone ? lol
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>>65132986
Nice non-argument. Blade Runner is not only inferior on an entertainment level but also in terms of it being an in depth examination of the themes present in the movie. You don't win legitimacy points for having completely flat unengaging characters when your movie has capeshit level depth.

If it's both a shallower experience and also less enjoyable then what is the point in watching and praising it in 2016? Because you are a puppet of your father's memes.
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Was tough to pull the magenta out without sacrificing light, so I didn't alter anything that would fuck his skin tone up too much. The blue filter was easy enough to discard though.
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>>65133084
Have you seen the same movie ? I can accept that you don't like some characters, or didn't understand the movie but to call it "capeshit" when it has no super-hero theme in it while, in using this term, also putting every super hero movie in the same level just show that you have nothing to say but spout meme on this board. You don't criticize a movie by calling a relatively new theme for modern super-heroes inspired movies without separating the capeshit of the theme they are presented in movie (classic action hero story most of the time)
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seriously, I understand the use of colour can be used to expand upon the themes or to inkove feelings, but the grading done nowadays is really shit and adds nothing to the film.
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>>65133446
>"capeshit" when it has no super-hero theme
Capeshit means spectacle driven + entertainment focus. It has nothing to do with super heroes inherently.
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>>65133084
You sir don't win legitimacy points for having completely flat un-engaging rants when your posts has no depth either. And I've seen your posts before; just arrogant rants.
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>>65133515
>spectacle driven + entertainment focus
And of course a pulled the term "action hero" out of my ass for the lulz.. How can you honestly try to debate about a movie (that i supposed you didn't see because it is liked) when you can't even read a few lines post ? Don't answer, i know it will just be a little rant we a few words you saw at school and though makes you look brilliant
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>>65132627
So who's your favorite Avenger ?
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>>65135774
Blade Runner and The Avengers are both in my bottom 5 flicks I ever saw. So nice try.
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>>65132573
where'd you find that?
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Why is there no Bladerunner blu ray with a Spanish dub available? I want to get this movie for an acquaintance but he refuses to use subtitles.
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>>65135925
was posted on last thread
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>>65131489
>should go for

Wow, Ridley Scott creeps on 4chan!
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Ghost in the Shell did the job better
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Finally got the full trailer sorted out and uploaded.

http://webm.land/media/tWCR.webm
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Someone give me an old movie they'd like to see graded, I want some practice, see if I can't give it the ol' modern hollywood flare.
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>>65135815
post your top five so we can see what an idiot you are
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>>65136509
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>>65136761
Well you gave me the worst screenshot you possibly could have but I still tried.
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>>65137582
>>65136509
could you do this one?
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>>65137860
Or this one/I want to see how it would change the atmosphere
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>>65131597
Can /tv/ go one thread without mentioning reddit?
Gas yourself mi familia.
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>>65136509
I found another good one
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>>65137860
I feel kinda bad, I haven't seen the movie yet so I'm not 100% sure on the intended tone. I have the fucking movie on blu-ray and I still haven't seen it yet.
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Would you fuckers redraw Picasso's work as well since it's not realistic looking?

It's art stupid.
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>>65138236
sorry for somewhat spoiling the most climatic scene
you did a pretty good job with it though
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y6xwZKBwKE&index=2&list=LLm88O3AkH3Xwl1mX5G8WBMA
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I have to admit that some stuff is better left alone such as OPs Blade Runner example but with The Matrix you just want to gouge your eyes out.

http://webm.land/media/TLB8.webm
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>>65138171
Not sure how I feel about this grade.
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>>65137989
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>>65138236
Watch it immediately.
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>>65138345
That looks garish as hell
What the fuck was Leonardo smoking
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>>65138660
Is the whole movie like that? Because I'm pretty sure the green tinge is to show that it's a virtual world.
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>>65131894
Oh fuck off, Reddit. It's had a million fucking cuts
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>>65139124
>Because I'm pretty sure the green tinge is to show that it's a virtual world.
I think that's the case and my memory is scenes on the broadcast ships and in Zion weren't colored green. The Matrix is perhaps on odd case because unreality is part of the plot, and for the most part unfiltered looks "better" specifically because it looks more real. They may have had good reason to give me the movie on the left side of that webm but I would prefer the one on the right 99 times out of 100.
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>>65139124

The "real" world is a bit toned down but the green is still there.
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>>65138970
I like it but at the same time I hate it
it's aesthetically pleasing and giving the impression that it's dawn or day breaking always adds an extra tone to the climax along the lones of "this is where our story is going to end"
But this contrarian in me feels like it's cheap. The first one
>>65137989
was a duel in the middle of daylight. It felt more casual and doesn't rely on screen tone to set the mood. The sound and emphasis on empty space feels more vibrant here because it is more casual and less thought is given into the color of day break.
Or maybe I'm just shitting out a nice load of pretentiousness.Who knows

>>65138693
Really like this one, might call it an improvement.
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Have the dvd with multiple versions of Blade Runner and I'm NEET. Which version should I watch tomorrow and should I get drunk on 4Loko Gold, Olde English, or plain Cobras?
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>>65138660
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>>65139518
top looks better
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what's with the "Cinema mode" color-calibrated preset (that's on basically every HDTV) just making the image look like dull, washed-out dark shit?
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>>65139518
bottom looks like it was taken with an old camera phone
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>>65139299
Ah see, I didn't know it was supposed to be casual and tried to go for a more dramatic/dangerous tone.
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>>65138660
Anyone know if Matrix Reloaded had tinting added to the Blu ray that wasn't in the theatrical version or if that was just the first one?

>>65136107
Looks great
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is this movie actually good or is it just a meme?
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>>65136540
Mūsų nedaug (1996)
Jeanne Dielman, 23 quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles (1975)
Stroszek (1977)
砂の女 (1964)
As I Was Moving Ahead Occasionally I Saw Brief Glimpses of Beauty (2000)

>>65140477
Just a meme.
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>>65138014

on /tv/ reddit is just another word for faggot. nobody really means people literally from reddit.
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>>65138660
you now realize those bullet holes on the car are just stickers

you can never unsee this
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>>65138970
That actually looks better. I'm not against color grading, I'm just against lazy color over the top color grading that makes the colors look funky and unnatural.
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>>65136509
except you see. With the spartacus image the skin tones and colors on the people were left mostly intact while the snow and stuff looks bluer. If it were modern Hollywood it would just be a blue tint over everything.
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>>65138660
I modified this man of steel still to look like the 70's superman.
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>>65140982
Bottom one looks stupidly fake
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>>65140982

looks like a soap opera
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>>65140982
looks great, would watch
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>>65138660

the matrix uses colour for narrative purposes, the real world is predominantly blue, with a cold feeling, the matrix world is tinted green, this is fundamentally an un - natural colour tint and is used to seperate reality from the matrix.
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>>65140982
blacks were a bit too heavy. Here's revised version.
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>>65136107
The movie is better in black & white.
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>>65141446
>the 60's
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>>65141474
are you saying you wouldn't prefer to watch Man of Steel with 60's colors? What's wrong with you?
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>>65141446
the colours are still way too saturated
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>>65141446

The movie is already well graded at the end. They just tried to use the green filters as 'the world without neck snaper is dark"
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>>65141597
uh huh.
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>>65141597
>implying that looks good and not typical washed out awful colors zack Snyder shit.
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>>65139518
>fast colour corrector
>auto white balance

No John, you are the faggots.
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>>65141446
I'd rather watch the Snyder vision than that, his suit is too black. It looks more blue in this regrade >>65141690
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>>65131489
I felt like the blueish color was out of place in the original still so I undid that.
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>>65142004
The fact that it's out of place is the point, you don't want the fucking antagonist of all things to blend into the background.
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>>65131597
All of the stuff on Jakku and Maz's planet looked great in TFA. Only the end fight bothered me.
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Fuck color grading. Mad Max Fury Road is one of the worst-looking movies i've ever seen
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i prefer 35mm analog-film in daylight scenes, even interior, to all this graded digital only stuff.

I know its scanned afterwards and therefore also graded but its somehow more appealing to me.
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>>65142406
No it wasn't. The CGI looked super odd throughout the whole show. Not to mention the color of the mirror on the right in the full picture looks weird as fuck without any corrections.
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itt retarded people who think only 'realistic' looking is 'good'

>>65142564
>Fury Road is one of the worst-looking movies i've ever seen
spotted the pleb.
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>>65132573
I don't like it. The grading is there because the tone of the film is grungy and dark.

Especially the scene with that government guy, the green-ish grading on the left works far better because the tone of the scene is sickly and uncomfortable. The one on the right gives it an orange boost which is stupid because orange is usually a warm, comforting colour.
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>>65132573
Good job retard, you practically shat on that movie with your retarded correction.

Just goes to show how fucking cinematically illiterate you are, you can't read a scene for shit
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>>65132227
This. I prefer the top coloring, though. It's colder and gray; the colors are lost as he's dying.
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I'm old. I remember when movies looked like real life instead of washed out messes of brown and blue.
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>>65144107
>muh realism
art is not for you
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>>65141446
>posts desaturated shot instead of the original
Fuck off
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>>65144107
>I'm old. I remember when movies looked like real life
Yeah, remember when there was no colour in the world?
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>>65144107
Underage Nigger. Let me explain this for the last fucking time. Movie universe and our universe doesn't have to look the same. In the world of movies these Color templates set the mood for that universe Nd not Muh realism. If you want realism go watch shitty youtube videos.
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why do they do this
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>>65144368
Ironic that someone posting capeshit trash is trying to educate someone posting Breaking Bad trash

It's like two retards yelling at each other

>>65144408
because 'they' know more about storytelling and directing than you
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>>65132573
How to properly do color grading anyway? Is it just one or two settings on photoshop that does it? I know I could turn some switches and change the look of a picture to more natural, but does hollywood perhaps use something more sophisticated? Do they do it by the eye or have some sort of technique to measure the proper color?
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>>65141690
>he does it again
Retard
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>>65133033
>/tv/edditard

Too much son.
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>>65144446
>he's a denial fag
Well kiddo this website is for grownups. Come back when you can argue without fallacies
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>>65144579
What I am in denial of? Plebs ITT clearly can't read a movie and understand what they see.
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>>65139518
>makes it into dude blue lmao

congratulations faggot, you made it look worse
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>>65139518
Again misunderstanding realism for 'good' automatically.

Just go hang yourself.

What a pleb central this thread is.
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>>65143265
One of the advantages of film is that it has brutal color reproduction, so the basis which you work with after scanning has much better color information than most digital formats. You can color grade it while still maintaining better color overall, and not just end up with an almost monochrome tinted image.

film ftmfw
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>>65141446
The bottom one has a middle america 1950's feel. Unfortunately, that isn't in line with Man of Steels tone.
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>>65144945
>Film is better because digital can't be film.
dat flawless appels are oranges logic

laughing digital auteurs
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