>China Film Insider even reports younger audiences found Star Wars: The Force Awakens boring, and the movie has failed to be a hit with the younger generation.
>"Perhaps what should be most disconcerting to Disney are reports that younger moviegoers in third- and fourth-tier cities, the demographic fueling China’s booming box office and the target of Disney’s marketing bonanza—the foundation for its future success in the country—were confused by the plot and even heard snoring during screenings," the site reports.
>Chinese social networks are also responding negatively to Star Wars: The Force Awakens:
>“If a science fiction film lacks imagination then what makes it different from a soap opera? The story was completely in service to fans of the original trilogy and it only relied on razzle-dazzle effects. The most laughable element is that all the 'Force' in the galaxy seems belong to one family. Creating nostalgia while introducing a new conceptual story doesn’t have to conflict.”
Chink audiences > American audiences
As someone who had never seen a star wars movie and then watched them all before watching this newest one I think I can agree with them.
The movie to me seemed TOO cliche and I normally dont care about cliches. Everything was generic and unoriginal Or at least I thought. The only reason that I actually really enjoyed the movie is because I made a sincere attempt at viewing the movie through the eyes of a fan. Meaning I looked at the older movies and put the generic cliches aside and thought "ok maybe this wasnt generic when this came out and all the newer movies just copied it making it generic". I dont know if thats true, but it worked. Then when I watched the newest one I had to look at it through the eyes of a lifelong fan again. When people made their appearance I had to think about how excited someone else would be to see the original actors and then that gave me a small sensation of excitement.
However the newest one was still extremely generic to me and I dont think the story is good. Seemed like a childs story, as did the older ones, and I marked the newest one to just that, sticking true to its older movies.
good movie, I probably wouldnt watch it again soon, and could go the rest of my life not seeing again, but I'm glad I saw it.
>If a science fiction film lacks imagination then what makes it different from a soap opera?
Forget about J.J. Abrams, George Lucas got BTFO.
I thinks this anon describes perfectly the kind of spectator Hollywood executives are expecting, the exact human beign they're milking for money.
I'm glad chinese people don't think like you.
Different society, different money milking scams.
>We make movies just to get money, fuck everything else
Most of TFA's success came from nostalgia. Of course everyone in America wanted to see it; just about everyone here has seen it.
China was still under communist lockdown when the first movies came out, so the people there don't have the same nostalgia for it. It doesn't have the same name draw.
It's a sequel to a franchise that had its last film 10 years ago and never played in china during its original run. Also it has no asian actors in semi large roles. China cant into movies without asian actors in them.
Rogue One is coming out at the end of the year, it has two asian actors in prominent roles and it's a standalone film. It will probably do better.
>yfw China copies Star Wars and creates the biggest box office hit
Who cares? Disney will make more money based on merchandising and everything else.
It doesn't matter, people in the states will buy star wars bags and pens and toilet paper.
God help us when they build the "Star Wars" disneyland attraction.
>TFA tanks in China
>Disney change the scripts for the follow up movies to try to get the Chinese moviebux
>Luke now drives a space Bugatti Chiron that transforms into his new robot sidekick CH-0W
Let's be fair, I'd watch the shit out of that
>tfw even Roland Emmerich's shitty ID4 sequel does better in China than TFA
It is literally a story for children though. I remember seeing Phantom Menace when it first came out, and I thought it was pretty sweet. I didn't see the next two or TFA, but I did catch Phantom Menace on HBO or something like a decade later. It absolutely sucked. I think people are just expecting too much out of the series.
It's made for 12-14 year old kids who want to see some laser swords and space.
Unfortunately, everybody seems to have autism about it.
>were confused by the plot and even heard snoring during screenings
"We need this." "Okay." SPACE ACTION
How fucking ADD are Chinese kids for finding this boring? Putting aside for a moment genuine criticisms of the movie, how can children not be gripped by the pewpew? I liked Phantom when it came out because I was fucking 7, and now it's boring.
It's kind of pathetic how you all are so bitter you're finding failure somewhere it isn't. This movie is already the 3rd highest grossing film in history and has already sold billions in merchandise.
Still a shit movie, though. Could have actually been alright if it was anything more than A New New Hope.
yes but those were the lucas films. Lucas wanted to, ultimately, write an epic tragedy about a warrior's fall and redemption. He did that. Anakin's story covered across six movies with him in opposite roles in each trilogy. Lucas's soap had its last episode, it ended in the right place.
Now JJ continuing that shit has rendered the last half of the story pretty much moot. Nothing that happened mattered, the Ewoks celebrated for nothing.
As a CNfag I think I know why Star Wars never caught on in China.
SW is much like a popular genre of shows/movies called wuxia, but in space. Mainland, Hong Kong and Taiwan shits this garbage out all the time and people just got tired of it.
>The "Avatar" trilogy becomes the highest-grossing trilogy of all time, with over $9b at the worldwide box office combined
>the highly-anticipated sequel, Avatar 4, is expected to become the first movie to gross over $5b at the box office
I don't know why all of these deluded nostalgiafags didn't see that it was a 2-hour rehash fest with almost no sense of real peril and mostly a bunch of whimsical Disney Channel tier quips and hijinks
Daily reminder they all had miserable lives and failed at everything
It's because there were other giant monster movies coming out and they thought it would split the box office. But GDT is adamant it'll get made eventually. Just like all his other cancelled projects.
if that were true nothing would ever get made except for transformers and marvel sequels
there actually is a certain amount of profit that placates executives. that's why every genre that isnt action blockbuster or comedy still gets releases, and sequels even
>like beautiful women, amazing cars, giant robots and stories that focus on brotherhood and trust
>dislike jewish race-mixing propaganda veiled with a nostalgia blanket thinner than rice paper
Be more like the Chinese.
I hate that if you mention this to people, they're like
>IT'S LIKE REAL LIFE MAN
>PEOPLE DON'T GET HAPPY ENDINGS
>IT'S SO DEEP
Nigga it's a fucking movie with fictional characters. I want the happy ending that I got 30 years ago
It was cancelled because the U.S. financiers wouldn't come to the table. It was only even hinted at because Legendary is opening a Chinese division (which is what it was going to be produced under) and needs slot fillers for it's pre-purchased positions.
The American finance side just couldn't see a way to justify the U.S. investment. If Del Taco can make it in the 50 million or so range that Chinese blockbusters work in and load the cast and crew with Chinese staff, it could still happen for sure.
>the Ewoks celebrated for nothing.
The ewoks celebrated their massive hit to the empire and the rise of the new republic. It can be assumed there were a couple years of peace after the battle of jakku.
China needs to complain about Finn, it's the only chance we have of not getting BLACKED in the next movie.
my star wars nerd friends have the same reaction. Han literally went back, Luke ran away and all went to shit and back again. So deppressing.
i dont understand what my friends liked when they first saw the OT (i kinda get the nerd desire to go deeper and have darker shit but at some point it becomes self-defeating)
>that fucking face
China doesn't like niggers.
I'm serious. They haven't been PC brainwashed like the west. If they replaced Booga with a white actor they'd like it better. If it was a Chinese actor they'd like it A LOT better.
Female and black leads were a mistake. I'm glad based China is setting Hollywood straight about this PC shit.
The same thing happened in the EU
literally the same thing since TFA aped it completely but that's it's own thingbut there was a certain disconnect since they weren't the movies. Plus, it doesn't help that TFA did it 30 years later after shit was already established. Left a sour note
Rice > Hamburgers
I'm not a fan of the series but i've seen them all multiple times, this one was even worse than episode 1 to me.
Agree with the criticism in OP, so sick of 'lol family'. Also, the dindu and female empowerment seemed forced, chinks are even more racist so that was probably a factor.
They aint watching it because unlike us they are not brainwashed into thinking that rap and black culture is Cool like Will Smith.
To much black guy in film. NO China bucks
END OF STORY.
It really wasn't. They hated the OT even more when it was finally shown there.
They just can't relate to a story they have no nostalgia for. It'd be like one of their long running wuxia family dramas trying to make it big in America.
The cultural gap was just too huge. Star Wars has basically become part of the American zeitgeist, whereas there it's just a bizarre soap opera in space.
>can't understand a generic plot
>same people who love Transformers, Jurassic World, and Fast and Furious
Holy fucking shit. I hated TFA but goddamn China is mother fucking pleb as shit.
He's white enough for the chinks
>hating Fast and Furious
Take a look at this cuck.
I don't think they give a shit about black people either way. Also, because their practice of killing girls has left their demographics skewed, Chinese men have been getting African wives.
The movie is just mediocre; and because Chinese people don't have a complex about blacks they say so.
yeah EU seemed more forgiveable and "not really THAT real".
More like people shooting the shit and seeing what felt right, what sticked and what was mostly shit (99,9999%).
I at least expected Han to be a Nick Fury esque general or something with a thorn on his side bc of Kylo. At least something mildly new that didnt yelled "nobody lives happy ever after".
> way more diverse
I have two Chinese roommates.
The only thing they dislike about the F and F movies are the two black guys.
I tried telling them Vin Diesel is probably half black but they refused to believe me.
They also keep referring to half black, half Samoan The Rock as "Maori" (which they believe is half Asian).
It's a weird perspective they have.
>way more diverse
>2 black comic relief side characters
>2 black comic relief side characters
Hey man, that's DOUBLE the black comic relief side characters of TFA.
yeah literally my brother's hair, portuguese + spanish family
he even played some italian dude in Private Ryan? Or do you think Spielberg was going for a "blacks were also there" lol?
for SJWs there's also the "there are 6 nazis out there who think Paul Walker isn't truly white since he doesnt 'pass' in 100% of all possible situations therefore he isnt white"
>"Star Wars: The Force Awakens" proved a big draw in China, the world's second-largest movie market, grossing an estimated $53 million in ticket sales in its first two days in theaters. That studio-estimated gross is the biggest Saturday-Sunday box-office opening ever in China.
how is it bombing in China if it had the biggest two day opening ever? not meeting aggressive profit expectations is one thing, bombing another, mate.
>It's a weird perspective they have.
It is, but it's also funny to see Americans trying to explain Chinese attitudes in simplified terms.
The fact is that their mindsets are so alien to us that we can't even begin to make sense of it.
It's not that they can't grasp complex plots, it's that our complex plots usually have a lot of cultural baggage tied to it, and giant robots or fast cars are just more universal.
Pic related, the highest grossing movie in China of all time.
Seriously, of all fucking time.
It didn't have the biggest two-day opening ever. Furious 7 made $15m more in its opening day than TFA did in that 2-day period.
The fact is, no movie since 2011 has opened on a Saturday in China, so that's clever marketing bullshit to make it seem like the movie is doing better than it really is. It's literally competing against nothing.
It fucking amazes me that the guy you're talking to didn't notice this right off the bat.
I can't understand how we live in a world where sophistry is considered lying, but marketing is an honest job.
What the fuck are you even talking about? It's not complicated: They were raised in a different culture with different media. They have nostalgia for different things.
That's it. All entertainment and art is subjective. As /tv/ constantly reminds us.
indeed, no doubt they fudge around with dates and such for better numbers. however, the point i was trying to make is that TFA didn't exactly BOMB, it just didn't match aggressive expectations. $125 in China is not bomb numbers, Star Wars or not.
It's not a bomb, but it's a spectacular underperformance given the intense marketing and focus Disney put on making TFA a huge success in China, and industry projections which were generally between $200 and $300m. It's underperforming in comparison to its peers like Jurassic World, too.
Yeah that's what I said.
It's not about hating blacks or complicated stories, it's about the cultural appeal.
Monster Hunt would be seen by /tv/ as racemixing propaganda but it's doing just fine there.
>/tv/ fucking sayng that the transformers are good movies just to spit star wars fans
you fuckers are disgusting...i didnt like TFA but i will never defend transformers...thats just low standards
That's because his father was the negro. When it comes to racial characteristics children generally take after the mother more. Interacial couples with white women produce better looking kids than couples with white males, it's a fact.
want to hear something funny? i do seasonal production work for Disney. doesn't change the fact that the film didn't bomb and no one i have spoken to professionally considers it so.
I'm amazed you see "Biggest Saturday-Sunday opening" and don't immediately smell the bullshit someone is feeding you. Why didn't they, like you (or whoever I responded to), use "biggest two day opening"?
I didn't mean to zero in on you or that guy specifically, it's just that I live in a world where literally millions of dollars is shifted around because people can't spot stupid little details like that. Popularity affects purchasing decisions, which is what marketing is all about, so when I see people get so easily misled it starts to put a damp on my faith in humanity.
Nobody is claiming the film bombed, but if you don't see how as that other guy stated, 120 million in a 6.1 billion dollar market is chump change for what Disney was after, then you are missing the point.
it's less about being deep and more about TFA would be boring as fuck if everyone had happy endings for 30 years
Would you be nearly excited for Twin Peaks Season 3 if
Cooper went into the Black Lodge and defeated BOB once and for all in the season 2 finale?Of course not.
>were confused by the plot and even heard snoring during screenings
What, was it because they hadn't seen the original trilogy? It's the only reason why they wouldn't get it. It's literally get the space sword and then deliver the space sword to the space wizard.
This is the Rock's dad. Are you retarded?