How come High Fantasy on tv is hardly a thing? We want Tauriels and Kahlans, not something something.
Higher production costs and less of an obvious formula that can guarantee a success (such as every cop show etc.)
Done cheaply, high fantasy TV/Film is usually really really awful.
Unless you count Xena and Hercules, Game of Thrones is the only one that's ever been succesful. Because it's grimdark, politics and people hooking up.
Normies think fantasy is "unrealistic" and "nerdy". Good luck getting your mother or father to watch a fantasy show.
You know, there are plenty of things you can criticize about Tauriel in The Hobbit, but do it in a way that doesn't make you look like a fool spouting off non-existent lines.
Same reason there isn't a lot of space opera - it's both expensive and niche.
I want more Xena-esque shows with good, likable characters in them.
It's not fair to be honest.
>It's a Richard gets cucked by Darken Rahl in an alternate reality episdoe
>it's a Jagang forces a magic-nun to give him a blowjob under the table book
I can't believe I spent so much money on those books. I never even bought them all, because the publishers in my country split every book into four or some shit when they translated them. Ultimate jewery. God I wish there was someone who would have shown me some better shit to read.
Not gritty enough for mainstream audiences, thus low production costs.
Tbh even as a nerd I think high fantasy sucks most of the time. I can have fun with it in some games because they don't take themselves seriously and are silly but for a dramatic series or whatever, nah.
>it's a richard goes on a 14 page monologue about objectivism in the middle of a battle chapter
>it's a chicken-that-is-not-a-chicken chapter
>it's a totally-not-bill-and-hillary-clinton chapter
the sword of truth series high comedy
I mean I don't read genre fiction so I don't know how well it's translated to the screen but I stuck with all 4 episodes that are out right now and I kind of enjoy it. I dropped Seeker after the second episode
they're both really hot
the shannara chronicles
I don't know what it is with these kind of series.
Let's be honest, they're kind of shit with bad acting and forced drama, but they still manage to keep me watching. Filming on location, likable characters and fun goes a long way I suppose.
>it's a chicken-that-is-not-a-chicken chapter
I don't even remember what that was about, just that there were so much focus on the evil(?) chicken-impostor at some point. I don't think I ever actually got to the part where he did the objectivism speech. When did it happen?
The stuff with Richard's serial killer brother was creepy as well. Not because reading about a serial killer killing a prostitute is creepy, but in the way it was written. Never have I doubted a writer's intentions so much.
>Shannara Chronicles has better ratings than The Expanse
Are you looking for suggestions, anon? Tell me what you like and I'll give you some.
Having kept up with both, kind of hard to give Expanse any praise when its so god damn long winded. I will continue giving it a shot but the characters are just shit.
Shannara has teen ass
the monolgue was in one of the last books, chainfire i think
when richard was captured and had to play ja'lah or whatever that shit was called. after he finally rebels a battle starts and he literally goes on for pages deconstructing jagangs ever so clever not-communism and talking about objectivism
Shannara is hindered by being TV-PG or whatever and on MTV. It'll flop because of that.
If it was on HBO or Showtime or fuck, even Starz it'd do better.
I think Manu Bennett as Allanon is kind of an interesting choice for being a wise old druid..
Nah by now I'm too busy reading the
Aubrey-Maturinseries and realising how bad the movie adaptation was. I just wish I hadn't wasted hours of my youth and money better spent elsewhere reading those books.
>dat Vesper Lynd audition
Eva Green BTFO
They might not be able to show tits but there sure is gory violence in it.
Pretty much only reason I am going to watch it is because of Manu Bennett, and even he did some pretty horrible acting in the first couple of episodes.
Unfortunately most of the male characters in the show so far are twink fuccbois.
Allanon, the Elven King (played by Gimli) and the Rovers (their leader is played by the dude who played the outlaw leader in Jericho, Jonah I think was his name, don't know the actor's name) are the only masculine men.
Everyone else has boipucci.
yeah, there's a few other casting choices I like, the John Rhys-Davies mostly, also the rover girl is the chick from Pan's Labyrinth.
I mean they did show someone getting ripped apart by a fury but it was from a distance. That's the thing about TV-14 vs TV-MA, any violence will be toned down or shown from a distance
I assume this show is a soap opera for teenage girls, focusing mainly on relationships between waifus and their nonthreatening pretty boy love interests, with just enough violence to draw in a few bored male viewers. Is this assessment accurate?
Pretty much. Add hot girls to the violence and there you have it.
The rover girl looks a bit like a slightly meatier and younger Anne Hathaway.
I'm totally fine with that.
I wouldn't say it's accurate. The few relationship hints have gone nowhere because one of the parties in the relationship has gotten themselves killed in a horrible way... Amberle's boyfriend by a changeling demon, and her aunt (who was in love with Allanon) was torn to pieces by a fury right in front of his eyes.
So no, not really teen drama, it's mostly sticking to the whole epic journey thing where they have to grow a new Ellcrys (a magic tree that seals the Demons in an alternate dimension called the Foreboding)
It could be a lot better but it's okay, it's just obviously tuned for teen friendliness as far as graphic violence or the topic of sex.
In one case Will Ohmsford encounters Amberle naked showering in a waterfall. They make references to her being naked but of course the camera "tastefully" avoids actually showing anything.
Not that an epic fantasy needs nudity or sexuality, just see Lord of the Rings, but if you're not going to have it, just avoid it altogether rather than make TV-14 scenes with it, blatant fan service for 13 year olds with even more blatant censorship is more bothersome than not having any sexuality at all.
If you're going to do it? Go MA/R and be done with it.
>its a kahlan is a smug bitch episode
It has prettyboys but the focus hasn't been on relationships, at least not so far. It's all been Magic, the Ellcrys, demons, and the dangers of traveling in the wilderness alone so far.
I only got to watch the first 2 episodes on Youtube and 2 people went traveling alone and both of them got ambushed by Trolls wearing NBC masks.
Kinda crazy that those masks would be so old yet not falling apart.
>Princess battles with her divided love for a dead boy and the main protagonist she just met inside of the tree
>Rover girl is clearly in love with main protagonist, despite her attempts to play it off as manipulation
>Even Big Buff Druid Dude has had time to squeeze in a love interest of his own in the first 2 episodes
Even though she's dead now
Come now, I'll likely keep watching because at least it's better than Merlin and The Seeker, but let's not kid ourselves here.
High Fantasy hasn't really been a thing in TV or movies in the 80s. There's been a couple of successes here and there, but for the most part it's just too weird for people to understand and now the only thing people want from it are politics, epic battles, and other stuff requiring expensive special effects. TV just can't do it anymore.
Because fantasy TV is literally always an exercise in wish fulfillment, not in narrative; usually containing heavy-handed elements of sexual fantasy, child abuse, murder and racism.
Take game of thrones: Its success has nothing to do with the the indecipherable plot and everything to do with the fact that rednecks and single losers can collectively get their rocks off for an hour at a time while all their dreams come true in front of them.
The only true magic of fantasy television is how it manages to pander to SJWs while going against literally every tennet of their belief system.
Why is it always high fantasy that gets the TV and Movie adaptions? The one exception would be GoT, but it's turning into more and more high fantasy with every season.
Low fantasy would be cheaper, more down to earth and easier to get right without relying on special effects.
Lies of Locke Lamorra TV-series when?
It can be fun but it's pretty terrible overall.
If you like Smallville and Doctor Who and want some fantasy series that sits somewhere in-between, you might enjoy it. Just keep in mind it's very much a children's series throughout (there are maybe one or two episodes where it gets dark/serious, that's it).
>its bdsm chapter
>its rats chapter
>its anti abortion chapter
>its character is misinformed and pissed so we watch her bitch until she finds out the truth and renders her whole story pointless chapter
>its astral sex chapter
>its mud people chapter
>its with hard work you can build a business in few weeks chapter
>its everything is repeated 20 as if everyone is brain dead chapter (mostly the new books)
it gets super obvious around (book 6 I think) when he saves some wild woman and learns dance of death, it gets extra obvious when nicky takes him to the empire.
Only ever saw the Underworld movie set in medieval times, which was garbage.
Perhaps I should give the others a shot.
Speaking of urban fantasy; Dresden Files would make a pretty compelling TV-show I think.
why is that show so shit? seriously just let it end,there does not need to be twist on a twist on a twists.books are even worse since every book is about setting up the next or hinging on a assumption.I even watched the ravenswood show (why,god why?) only thing I got from it all the one that got away by civil wars
>mfw I bought 11-12 translated "books" and didn't even get to that part
I got gypped so hard.
maybe its just growing pains. teen wolf had a roller coaster of quality too. maybe we will get few good eps
Im surprised by how much of the cast was famous actors (even if they are in it for few seconds)
in sharonda adventures did you too find the whole girl power thing kind of bullshity?I mean they outright say that they have women in military and basically everything and running for hero was the last male thing so why is it pushed as some big thing or is it even a positive that last men only thing stops being so? I like that its set in post apocalypse and not pure fantasy world
It's the same that happens with Sci fi shows. There is hardly an audience and it implies a lot of investment and high production values.
which means it needs to nail it before even airing to be cost effective or to be on the on demand side of content creation.
When fantasy or sci fi fail it means heavy losses. It's not always the cheap effects, some times it just is the wrong material to adapt, some times they miss the potential audience, some times they take the wrong risks and misjudge what the people want from a show and sometimes they just put it on the wrong place on the grid.
did you at least get the bdsm?if you give a fuck here is the list of books https://www.goodreads.com/series/43803-sword-of-truth it "ends" by book 11 also don't read the first confessor and by "read" I mean you can get audio books from http://audiobookbay.cc/ login and password are opengrave
Ayyy its the /sp/ iPad using cuck that does nothing but bridget reagan daddario and asr and probably another
with shit resolution images/etc, get gud if you wanna be a waifuist
A song of ice and fire has always been high fantasy, in fact it's more high fantasy than both Tolkien or Shannara and perhaps even Wheel of Time on the technicality that for something to be "high fantasy" it needs to take place in a world that isn't our own.
Middle Earth is expressly said to be our Earth, making all Tolkien writings Low Fantasy technically though since everything is so different and there are other humanoid races, magic, and dragons most fans will disagree with the professor and claim it to be high fantasy.. so it's kind of a grey area there.
Shannara is low fantasy because it also takes place on earth, just a post apocalyptic earth where Elves have come back out of hiding and magic rediscovered. The other races are a result of humans being mutated by radiation (trolls) or evolving from living underground to avoid radiation (dwarves, gnomes).
Wheel of Time SEEMS high fantasy but there have been hints from the age before the Age of Legends that refer to things that happened on our world, like Lenn who flew to the moon in an eagle made of fire (a reference to John Glenn) and Salya who walked amongst the stars (referring to Sally Ride) and the Giants Mosk and Merk who wielded lances of fire that could reach the other side of the world (referring to the USSR (Mosk = Moscow) and USA (Merk = America) and their ICBM's (lances of fire that could cross the globe)
So it could also be low fantasy.
A Song of Ice and Fire takes place in a world that is NOT Earth, has magic, dragons, and other intelligent races than humans (the Others)
I don't know about other series, though I will say Star Wars is probably the most popular high fantasy franchise ever, it's not sci fi, it's high fantasy.
>A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away
>A plethora of different races
>A black and white battle between good and evil
it doesn't get much more textbook than that.
Sci-Fi and Fantasy movies do pretty well though.
Kind of a shame because you can fit so much more character development into a long running TV series.
Honestly what I wish they had was a format like Sherlock, a few 2 hour episodes every season.
You get the benefit of a 2 hour block of time to work with and really tell a story in a big chunk, but you have the continuing development that takes place because of it being an ongoing series.
It's a shame I can't think of another show that actually takes the chance to do that.
>doesn't have the geography of earth, is populated by loads of fantasy creatures, even has whole continents shifting out of time and space
The point of the 'low fantasy is fantasy on our planet'-definition is that it's actually similar to Earth, when it's completely different it doesn't count anymore
Low fantasy doesnt have to be super dark or edgy. the Conan stories were sometimes edgy but just as often they were goofy fun in the same spirit as an x-files episode.
i would say the main difference is that low fantasy has more subdued fantasy elements and the plot tends to be more "slice of life" rather than a big epic save-the-world adventure
>Low fantasy doesnt have to be super dark or edgy
the main thing is lack of magic or little magic but that usually comes with dark stuff. there still can be world saving but with no magic and usually with an add on that world did not really get saved since 1 person can't do much
I don't know either of those specifically but the literature definitions for the genres are determined by whether or not it takes place in our "world" or not (if it takes place in a real planet like Mars that still counts as "our world")
There's also grey areas like I said, Tolkien claims Arda is Earth from a prehistoric era, so that'd make it low fantasy, but people who read the books say it's way too different from Earth to be Earth.
i think it can have magic, it's just rare, less powerful, and used mainly by villains. low fantasy stories will still have evil wizard characters, but their magic will be e.g. a one-off use of some artifact instead of slinging spells left and right. there also tends to be a "was it real magic or some kind of trick?" element.
>Low fantasy is a subgenre of fantasy fiction involving "nonrational happenings that are without causality or rationality because they occur in the rational world where such things are not supposed to occur." Low fantasy stories are set either in the real world or a fictional but rational world, and are contrasted with high fantasy stories which take place in a completely fictional fantasy world setting with its own set of rules and physical laws.
>Low fantasy places relatively less emphasis on typical elements associated with fantasy, setting a narrative in real-world environments with elements of the fantastical. Sometimes there are just enough fantastical elements to make ambiguous the boundary between what is real and what is purely psychological or supernatural. The word "low" refers to the level of prominence of traditional fantasy elements within the work, and is not any sort of remark on the work's quality.
>High fantasy is defined as fantasy set in an alternative, fictional ("secondary") world, rather than "the real", or "primary" world. The secondary world is usually internally consistent, but its rules differ from those of the primary world. By contrast, low fantasy is characterized by being set in the primary, or "real" world, or a rational and familiar fictional world, with the inclusion of magical elements.
>The romances of William Morris, such as The Well at the World's End, set in an imaginary medieval world, are sometimes regarded as the first examples of high fantasy. The works of J. R. R. Tolkien—especially The Lord of the Rings—are regarded as the archetypal works of high fantasy. Stephen R. Donaldson's The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant is another example of a high fantasy series.
And it deserved to be cancelled.
It strayed so fucking far from the source material I was livid.
Like you have ONE job to do... is to get his apartment right. ONE FUCKING JOB.
His apartment could've been done easily on a SyFy budget, and then finding "streets" in Canada that looked like "Chicago" could've been piss easy. Also find some bay and call it your "Lake Michigan".
That series insulted me so much it's hard to recall or find another franchise/IP that's been raped as hard in terms of shit adaptation that I hold dear to me.
Fuck whoever was in charge of that project. Jim Butcher should've sued them for the damages to his books.
In this episode >>65117827 it was implied that Kahlan was a cuck. She says that she'll do anything, and if he wants Cara as well, that she'll love Cara like a sister.