DUDE LETS RUIN THE NATURAL AESTHETICS OF OUR FILM WITH TRENDY

Top: How the world actually looks when it's overcast

Bottom: Let's shine a fucking floodlight on Tom Cruise even though he's supposed to be in the middle of a beach

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>>65084322

I like both.

top's better

>>65084351
confirmed for never going outsie

>>65084322
bottom looks fake

looks fine either way

i fucking hate 4chan autists

>>65084351
Yeah, there's not a lot of sunlight on beaches because of all the mountains and dense forests and shit.

>showing war in normal lighting
Do you want to normalize war, you fucking Republicuck? War should be portrayed as the hellish nightmare it is.

>>65084351
>Top: How the world actually looks when it's overcast

are you mexican?

>>65084351
>>65084373
>>65084377
reddit is already here I see

DUDE SHADOWS AND CONTRAST LMAO

HOLD THAT SHOT SO I CAN STARE AT IT FOR 10 MINUTES LMAO

>>65084351
Its gray when overcast though, not green.

>>65084410
autism never left i see

>>65084410
>>65084387
>fuck nobody agrees with my fucking inane comments

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>>65084322

I grade films for a living...

I fixed both.

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>This film's original name was All You Need Is Kill

>>65084392
Hello reddit!

>>65084441

cool, a cozy and warm battle field. LOL.

>>65084470
>1444215866969.jpg
Metal Gear Solid 3, 4, and 5 has some of the worst, most disgusting looking color grading I've ever seen.

>>65084493

Don't talk shit.

If you want a realistic approach this is it.

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DUDE

AVATAR

LEL

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>>65084376
I've been to the beaches in Normandy and Brittany, top is a lot more representative of what the weather would be

>>65084351
>>65084550
>the realistic version is the one that takes the real genuine image and applies a bunch of filters over it
I don't know what's bait anymore

>>65084550

YEAH MAGENTAISH TINTED BATTLEFIELD IS HOW I TOTALLY ENVISION WAR. PLEASE DO WAR CLASSICS TOO, YOUR VISION IS CLEARLY NEEDED TO RESTORE THE FLAWED "MASTERPIECES".

>muh filters

I don't know if these are trolls or genuine autists any more

>>65084351
hahaha retard

>>65084441

If you actually are grading films for a living, that's cool and all.

But that look right there and the very idea that everything needs to be color graded to hell and back is why all big movies have been looking the same these past few years.

There's one 'graded Alexa footage' look for the big films, one 'graded lower tier camera' look for indie films and one 'can't really grade things properly fuck it' look for some other indies.

It's especially sad that even movies shot on film are graded into looking like an Alexa, see Spectre for the most recent sad example.

>>65084322
since this was based off a manga does that make it weebshit?

>>65084752

Yes

>>65084752
It's one of the best action film out of Hollywood in the last few years.

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>>65084749
>>65084691
>>65084667
>>65084493

So, this is what you want?

>>65084441

/p/ here

>>glasses.com

>>65084809

Too blue and too light desu, make it a bit darker, and a bit more yellowy brown

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>>65084351

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>>65084832

/p/

75% of the shit on your board is hard to look at.

Absolute cringe...

>>65084809
I think it looks like a video game now.

>>65084548
You shut your mouth. MGS3 and its drab but yellow hue on everything makes it extremely captivating since it mimics harsh forest environments so realistically. After a point it becomes a stylistic feature that they keep for consistency and I just fucking love it

Im a MGS fanboy and I would eat naked snakes shit. Its one of like four things I am devoted to

>>65084809
>>65084749

I'm that guy. No that's not what I want. Increasing contrast and lowering shadows isn't helping anything. What is going on with those skin tones bro?

I know it's a crap compressed png but look at how much the image is falling apart next to his left eye there.

For me the clean image in the OP is what the film 'should' look like. It's terrible that colorists need to come up with a 'look' in post these days. This should be the director and the DP's job on set during production, with the grading being used to fix issues or enhance certain things (for example taking out green from fluorescents back in the film days if it wasn't done on set).

>>65084441
1998 called, he wants his filter back

>>65084392
Whoa, you sound like a veteran of many wars...

>>65084832
>/p/ here
Also known as a high school kid with daddy money

Aw, don't worry not everyone has to be talented at real arts, little buddy. Now gtfo

>>65085012
Did he really fight in the clone wars?!

>>65084392
or not

>>65084609
pics or it didn't happen

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I masturbate to tranny porn, that's how i would do it.

>>65084441
>I grade films for a living...
if you really do.

What the fuck is up with the washed out contrasts in movies lately? When I watch a old as movie from the 70's or 80's, it looks great. Whenever there's a night scene from a movie post 2010, it looks like someone just turned the contrast down to one and amped up the pisscolor on everything.

Everything looks like a washed out instagram filter.

>>65085079
kek I bet it's 60fps

god I hate them

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>>65084809
Fixed.

>>65084322
top looks better

you know why? because that's the one they decided to go with

if the scene has a piss filter, then it has a fucking piss filter. That's the intended look whether you like it or not. People who try to 'fix' pre-established color grading are LITERALLY reddit.

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>>65084322
here ya go

>>65084322
But he's in a battlefield with shitloads of explosions and such

It would make sense that the light should be a bit darker

Also they would have done a lot of different shoots on different days with different levels of sunlight, so it makes sense that they'd use digital effects to keep the lighting consistent

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It seems everyone wants a Nolan movie.

>I want dark yellows and browns
>Then desaturation
>Then crush

>>65084809
>So, this is what you want?

shadows too blue, but other than that looks much better than the tonally plain shitfest in the movie.

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>>65084322

>>65085217

Heavy sunset LUT

I'm impressed.

>>65084832

/p/ cant color for shit m8. all vsco.

t. im from /p/, im the fucking OP m8 fite me.

crush the blacks

>>65085079
Gamers adjust contrast and saturation in competitive games like CS:GO because it makes it easier to spot the enemy

But nobody claims CS:GO is artistic

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I'm a genius.

Where is the Jew Jew Abrahms version?

Wow, a thread with people who actually know how to grade

Since /p/ is objectively shite, someone help me
How would you grade a film to resemble the dollars' trilogy?

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>>65085156

I do cinematography and can explain part of this at least. It's to do with shooting high level digital.

Shooting film at night, unlit dark areas go slightly milky because tehre is no exposure, while areas that are slightly lit go black, see the Godfather for a good example of this.
Digital doesn't work this way, and everything is shot as raw footage (not very often) or Log format which is extremely flat and uncontrasty. You can then choose to crush the shadows or blacks in post, but the trend seems to err on the milky side I suppose. That and also many indie films don't seem to grade much at all, so the image looks very flat.

Here's a still from We Own the Night (2007), shot on film. It's a recent movie that I thought had very good night scenes. It takes place in the 80s so the outside lighting is very yellow as you say, but there's a lot of contrast and many light and dark areas in the night scenes, they have a lot of depth and I really enjoyed how it was shot/graded compared to other recent stuff.

>>65084322
Top is much easier on the eyes. It's not supposed to be real life, it's supposed to be expressive. That's why film is shot in 24fps instead of higher even though we long since have technology for that. You don't just take raw, full-contrast shots for everything any more than you play every instrument at the same volume in a piece of music.

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>>65085399

Yes, yes you are. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

I believe in you.

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>>65084322

that should do it, who is my favourite director ?

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best grading masterrace reporting in.

>>65085602
I watched Into Darkness in 360p and couldn't see the lens flares, kek.

>>65085455

I think that while you might be able to get a contrast that's similar to that kind of 70s film stock, it's really hard to get the colors right. There's something about the stocks from that time that didn't quite get the colors right, but in an interesting way, like Red goes a bit Orange, Blue may or may not have a Magenta cast and most often Green goes slightly Cyan or Turqouise.

Don't forget if you're talking about grading digital footage it's impossible to get highlights to look as they do on film, sensors just don't work that way. Overall it looks quite desaturated and contrasty, but again, you just can't get film-like gradients in the shadows to true black on digital unless you have Alexa footage, and even then it's a gamble.

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Why do you care about whether the lighting or color is realistic or not? It's a movie, a fantasy one too, not a fucking real life documentary. It's more about looking cool or setting a mood rather than being true to life.

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>>65085470
Remake

>>65085651
Movies aren't supposed to look like real life.

>>65085602
>Directed by Hideo Kojima

>>65085689

You right >>65085669 This was my grade.

Huh, I'm actually learning about the advantages of film over digital.

>>65085651
too cold in the mids
I prefere the op's

>>65085699
>Movies aren't supposed to look like real life.

thats what plebs really believe.

>>65085679
But the point is the grading of the film doesn't look cool or set a mood, it's generic and being 'true to life' (although that's not the case anyway) would suit it better.

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>>65084351
I might as well respond to this post too so I can get my post number up on the reply list and feel special. Even more so because this guy happens to be right.

I've been out on some spooky lit days before. Ones where everything is a sickly yellow glow or yellow-green.

>never been out on a day where everything looked blue when it wasn't blue haze in the distance

>>65085765
IF YOU MAKE A MOVIE LOOK LIKE REAL LIFE PEOPLE WILL GET BORED AND DIE.

>>65085308
cs:go is artistic

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>>65084441
have you seen Whiplash? if so, what did you think of it? most of the scenes are orangy as fuck, like if they took out the blue color entirely, excluding the exterior scenes.

>>65085753
If you have any questions I'd be happy to try and answer them on this topic.

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Superior grade master coming through

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>don't like post-processing color filters in your movies?
>well fuck you
>have some BLUE AND ORANGE

>>65085811
Autistic*
Sorry, fucking auto corrector.

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fifth element did it right

>>65085873
that shit ain't even blue nigga

>>65085873
>storm is almost white
FUCKING WHITE WASHING!

>all those filters ITT
screencapping and posting this thread in r/4chan

thanks for the gold

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my take on redditing flicks

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>>65084322
More movies should be black and white only.

>>65085795
In the OP pic, if I look at the top I'll instantly know that there's something serious going on
If I look at the bottom, it looks like he's fallen down and can't get up
All this talk about color filters mostly revolves around the fact that most movies share the same color tone instead of any real criticism of the style in the movie itself

I'm still pissed about everything in Mad Max being so ORANGE

>>65085971
This looks perfect, dude.

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which one is correct?

89% failed this quiz

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>>65086030
The correct one is the version where Somerset is the real killer

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>>65085907
It is a meme term and has several versions of the names of the colors. Blue & orange is the wording that is used most.

>>65086030
second row?

>>65086030

Italian one

>>65086030
CRITERION

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>>65085718

>>65085765
>Movies are supposed to look like [x]
>movies are supposed to [x]
>movies are supposed [x]
>film
>supposed
>art
>supposed
>supposed to
this is what plebs actually believe

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>>65086030
This one is correct. Colors taken directly from the film.

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>>65085461
>That and also many indie films don't seem to grade much at all, so the image looks very flat.

That explains alot, though I think it's alot down due to the limitations that digital still have and that it is just the style right now.

I guess I just miss the grainy 35mm.

>>65084809
now it looks like saving private ryan

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>>65086120

>>65085831
I've just always wondered what the advantages were. It seemed like the only advantage was sentimentalism.

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>>65085820

Removed yellow

>>65086006
> if I look at the top I'll instantly know that there's something serious going on

I honestly think this is trolling now.

Somebody matrixify that shit.

>>65086090
he is literally a fallen hero in that pic

absolute poetry

>>65085873
Ivan Ooze?

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>>65086016

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>>65086207

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>>65085820
If I had to guess, they're trying to evoke the way the world looks under sodium vapor lights

>>65086169
eww

yellow is better

>>65086016
It's because it was supposed to be in black and white.

I'd have loved to see that version. Expertly graded, that film would look awesome in B&W

>>65086030
italian looks basically "we didn't edit shit"
the top one looks best

>>65086030
The criterion release is always the canon representation of a film

>>65086278
>>65085820
Blue and orange are a meme color scheming done to make shit "look better and more exciting" or whatever.

Don't click unless you want the rest of your suspension of disbelief ripped from you.
http://theabyssgazes.blogspot.com/2010/03/teal-and-orange-hollywood-please-stop.html

>>65086189
What's the problem?

i feel like our /pol/ pals are getting behind, heres some snack to munch:

Can a film emulsion be racist?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d16LNHIEJzs

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I did my best.

>>65085971
you have my vote for most netrual look so far

>>65086202
And he literally fights a Hungarian skeleton.
Poetry

>>65086121
I miss grainy 35 too. Any night exteriors from 80s movies are amazing. 70s stocks weren't fast enough to shoot properly at night so they look too dark and flat. But throughout the 80s night exteriors look amazing, I mean everyone should watch Thief and see how it blows today's digital night exteriors out of the water.

>>65086160
It's not just sentimentalism. Or it is and it isn't. In short the differences are:
- film handles highlights better (better drop off, more organic graduation), digital handles shadows MUCH better (you can shoot 3 stops underexposed and bring it back in post like it was nothing; film loses that information more quickly so you're stuck with what you shoot, you can only push it one or two stops max and at 2 it will look funny already)
- color gradients look better on film because of the nature of analog, it doesn't shoot 8-bit or 10-bit or whatever you shoot on digital, it records light chemically rather than mathematically. Technically this could be solved by improvements to digital technology though, but will result in increasingly larger files
- resolution-wise there's basically no difference at this point
- there's something hard to describe about how film handles areas that are out of focus; again it's to do with analog chemical development, where the 'fuzzy' area looks more natural as it does to the human eye
- finally, film is naturally much softer. Shooting digital on today's lenses the image is crazy sharp. Here it's not about resolution (since 35mm is at around 6k resolution), it's about how digital handles the situation, everything feels very very sharp and you have to use filters or very soft light to attenuate it. Note how in some older black and white films, because the film stock and lenses were soft, DP's sometimes even used hard light on women's faces and it still felt 'filmic', because it was naturally attenuated while recording

>>65086389
auto exposure is racist too

I'm getting tired of this decade

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>>65086468

me too

>>65086389
That actually is sort of true, not because of any deliberate racism behind it but because actors were all white so the standard stock and lighting didn't work on other skin tones. Haskell Wexler had to take special care to light Sidney Poitier differently on the set of In the Heat of the Night.
Besides, early film also had problems with blue eyes until James Wong Howe figured out how to darken the surrounding with cloth until better stock was made.

>>65084609
Then you should've been wearing glasses. The top looks like its about to rain. The bottom looks overcast.

for a fair comparison on whats the appeal of film vs digital, see the blade runner city neon night vs the total recall reboot city neon/chinatown scenes.

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who /tritanopia/ here?

>>65084322
>puke green
It's usually toy blue.

>>65086568
Interesting stuff. That Side By Side documentary went into this a little, though it seemed to be leaning more towards digital.

I'll watch Thief tonight. Wanted to do that for some time now.

>>65086664
Blade runner is a flick, tho.

>>65086664
I fucking loved Total Recall's aesthetic. Wasn't a huge fan of everything else, but it got that right.

>>65084322
For a long time I kept trying to figure out why movies from the 80s and 90s looked so much better. At first I thought it had to do with being shot on film, but plenty of modern day films are shot on film and they look just as off. Then I realized how extensive color grading was.

Literally fuck color grading and filters. It should be used minimally for stylistic choices and to fix errors done during production. Not to make everything look muddy or blue.

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>>65085174
what could it mean

>>65086568
>Thief
I didnt watch that movie untill last year and I was just blown away by the opening scenes.

Is there anyway to emulate that pre digital Mann look with digital or is that a hopeless endevour?

>>65086736
Side By Side is a pretty good watch yeah. Ideally both mediums should cohabitate, as they're each good for a different thing and it should be an artistic decision on the part of the director and DP as to what to use. We'll see how it goes now that Kodak is back on its feet

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>>65085820

>>65086956
Nice crown

>>65085658
balls
Cheers though, I'll have fun messing around with it in a few months I guess

>>65084609
I live in a place where it is overcast more often than not. The bottom looks more realistic

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eh

probably way off thanks to shitty laptop monitor

>>65086899
Hopeless endeavor at the end of the day, see the other comments for an explanation as to why. It's not about 'we're not there yet', sensors are not really designed to work that way. You can approximate the look of course, but it won't feel the same in motion, from shot to shot, etc.

And to the point about the prevalence of grading, again it's to do with how the process of shooting works today. I will give an example:

You have a simple interior dialogue scene between a man and a woman. They sit next to a window which is the main light source.
On film you would decide what f stop to shoot at to decide your depth of field, then adjust the window with plastic filters to bring it down to the right level for the faces. you then might fill in the opposite side of the face with extra light to lower contrast as desired (more contrasty for the man, less so for the woman usually). Then add some lights to pick up the background so a greater or lesser extent depending on the scene. Here then the contrast and light levels are basically set in the camera, with potential adjustments in the lab. But technically you could skip 'grading' altogether.

Now in digital the process could be the same, only you'd use less and smaller lights because sensors are more sensitive than film for the most part. The problem comes with shooting in Log compression as this flattens everything. This is done so as to get the most information possible into the digital file. What this allows you to do is push and pull the highlights, shadows and colors in post to a great degree. Thus you can start with a fairly flat image with a contrast ratio of 2:1 or 4:1 and push it in post to 16:1 or whatever because you can choose to use or discard the information you have recorded. Because of this you can never just skip grading because then your film will just be dull gray. And because of that, there is much more of a temptation to try this and that look, moving away from the original image.

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>>65084322
my version, the only thing I don't like is the eyes are too bright/green but whatevs

>>65084322
How do you take screenshots when playing off a blu ray? All the players I can find don't let you do it for some reason.

>>65085602
JJ leave.

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Speaking of horrible filters. Ever watch J.Edgar, could barely see this shit

>>65087432
just select file and there should be a save option. MPC-HC is alt i, but I think you gotta pause iirc

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>>65084322
Don't worry, RealD, and IMAX3D glasses will make it worse.

>>65085160
I think you legitimately suffer from autism

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official kino version

I tried watching a few '60 fps' vid..every 3-5th frame was a copied blur image. Watching it after years of breaking down frames for gif making ruptured my learned autism. Are all 60's like that or did I just catch a 'forced/created' false one?

>>65087733
this is art

I wish this shit would stop
I've turned of films because I hate the unnatural lighting in every scene
I do not see the world through a green filter so your movies shouldn't either

>>65084322
>there can't be a happy medium
WHY

>>65087733
zzzzzzz

>>65084387
>Yeah, there's not a lot of sunlight on beaches because of all the mountains and dense forests and shit.

What?

>>65087800

you can change colouration in vlc

>>65087800
I agree, but unskilled directors, and producers think this shit is magic supplementing for weak story.

>>65087733
Do they speak in french?
Is not a kino if they don't do it.

>>65087842

because art is life, and life is pain.

however, this specific grading issue, is because of the jews.

>>65084322
>FILMS MUST BE 100% REALIST NO STYLE IS ALLOWED

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If you guys are into this stuff you should check this documentary, it's nice

>>65087918
soviet silent film

>>65087800
so no music either
cause you don't hear music all the time

>>65087842
remember that dress color thing that was the talk of the social media world for about a week? Turns out not everyone see's the same color the same. There are slight differences in the perception of pigments cause by the actual brain/eyes. There is no wrong or right answer according to some scientists

>>65087962
yes
it was white and gold

>>65087945
100% kino

>>65084809
Looks like saving private ryan

>>65087884
sarcasm is hard to detect sometimes, but I'm sure that post fits the bill

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>>65087998

>>65084322
both give you different feelings, it depends on the context in the movie tbqh

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>>65084322
You can thank the Coen brothers on this, because since this movie's success every director has attempted to copy the method.

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>>65087733
True kino version here

>>65088080
>You can thank the Coen brothers on this

told ya
>>65087921

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Matrix was the first to do it right

>>65086030
Italian

>>65086308
nothing could be further from the truth

>>65086468
you turned him in wilem defoe

>>65088109
Absolutely pɐtricían

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>>65087324
thanks for the explanation.

>>65084351
I haven't been outside yet in 2016, but even I can say that you are way off.

>>65088109
is this sum Un jour sans lendemain?

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Heard you guys want a natural color correction?

>>65084351
Being on /tv/ and not knowing what color grading is.

>>65084322
I WANTED RUSH TO BE NOT FILTERED, FUCK YOU HOWARD

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MORE BLUE = MORE REALISM

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>>65084376
>>65084387
>>65084399
>>65084410
>>65084424
>>65084667
>>65084736
>>65084920
>>65085799
>>65088277
>>65088415
>overcast + the smoke from the battle field

f***ing retards

>>65088344
This is fucking perfect.

>>65088537
At least according to DC.

>>65088537
>tom cruiseimoto

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From Criterion's Advanced Kîno Archive.

>>65085955
She also has a profile of a man.

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Someone fix this horrible filter.

>>65088729
is there a copy without the rotoscoping somewhere?

>>65088683

Répétition de la Filière en Direct (2014)

>>65084351
Yup.

This thread is just more internet brand "film criticism"

OP is the type to complain when a movie has "plot holes"

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DUDE AUTO WHITE BALANCE IN PHOTOSHOP = GOOD GRADING LMAO

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interesting to see everyones color preferences

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Story by Frank Miller

>>65088344
blacks too blue desu

>>65084322
Aesthetics =/= Color
Go home you're an idiot.

>>65089087
I like it

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Ok guys, you can stop pretending to be bad. Show your true power levels.

This one was captured straight out of Criterion's Monumental Kînô Vault, restored from an original Kodachrome reel.

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>>65089415
I can top that, this is from the original negatives

>>65089087
Punished Cruise

>>65089415
what kinda film you want?
just saturate my shit up family
i got u

>>65089457
>kodachrome
>negatives

LMAOOOOOOOOO

kodachome is a color positive film aka. slide film. the more you know..

>>65086468
Finally something that looks even remotely like in a real life.

>>65085079
ENBs for skyrim

I can't believe people masturbate over those images thinking it looks good

>>65089521
Live. Die. Repeat was made using kinochrome, which uses negatives

You've shown your lack of knowledge here, pleb

>>65089579
>Live. Die. Repeat

Oh but the still is taken from Sergio Leone's "Vivere. Morire. Ripetere" (1966), which was all shot on Kodachrome. Yeah, take it easy now kiddo.

>>65089667
Keep talking you fucking plebian nigger

>>65089778

someones.. positively triggered :^)

>>65088147
Probably also the last.

>>65084548
5 didn't really have it.
It had one of the most Afghan feels there were.
4 had a fucking disgusting palette
3 had a mediocre palette.

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>>65089538
>ENBs for skyrim
you forgot your DOF

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>>65085079

>>65088147
The green was added in later DVD releases to match the sequels. It wasn't there originally.

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>>65089978
I can one-up you.

top looks better you fucking autist

>>65084474
Hello, Myspace.

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Which is the right one?

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It's a bith garish don't you think?

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>>65085079

Miller vision.

>>65092328
>reddit approves of this

>>65091685
C?

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heres the blade runner filter

>>65084441
You fucked the midtones bro.

>>65085283
It is true same with /gd/ our boards are shit. I went to school for graphic design and own a business. The stuff that comes out of both are cringe worthy I think I have seen only 2 good resumes off /gd/. /ic/ is way better at correcting images than /gd/ is it is sad.

>>65084351
>Top: How the world actually looks when it's overcast

You wear sunglasses in overcast?

>>65084441
Not as bad but it's still a lavender tint

Is it even possible to reverse a color filter with no loss of accuracy?

>>65094862
Yes that is why photoshop has channels and curves.

It would be impossible to make the entire movie look like one of these joke shaders right?

>>65092239
Fire shouldn't be magenta but otherwise I like it

>>65095006

You can do anything with Premiere pro. It all dependes on your skill as editor.

>>65095226

Source won't allow to change it through curves without fucking up the rest of the image. One has to sit down and mask fire and sky in order to fully restore the natural look. I bet most of the fire is CG and was rendered that way.

>>65090789
>The green was added in later DVD releases to match the sequels. It wasn't there originally.

This. And it activates my autism so hard we will never get the original color grading on blu-ray

>>65090789
No fucking way

>>65095691

I think it's fixable. I will give it a go when I'm done downloading.

>>65090789
yeah I think it's bluey-grey on my dvd

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>>65095873
there have been previous attempts, it is no easy undertaking

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Here, fixed it. Pretty much what any movie should look like. I don't know why movie studios are afraid to have colors in their movies, its almost as if they stick to one color tone to hide the shittiness of their movies.

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>>65084322
Howdy y'all i heard you want a star wars that's like the OT so we kept the old scene transitions but still put shitty filters over everything.

>>65091685
C

>>65087324
It does make perfect sense that Log compression would be the default when shooting, and there are rather a lot of amateur still photographers who use multiple exposures combined with stacking software to approximate it. There is something satisfying about an image in which no detail is either lost in shadow or obliterated in glare, and in some ways it's truer to life that way, since the eye's dynamic range is much higher than the best display's.

>>65096011

They just went full retarded and put green on the entire picture which makes it look like it has awful green overlay and fucks up the original colors.

>>65087733
You joke but i'd take black and white over piss filter any day of the week.

>>65086030
Dunno but criterion looks best. Italian version looks like vanilla. I'm not against digital grading as long as it's done well and doesn't make the picture look unnatural and weird..

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ITT, a bunch of weebs who know nothing about both film and grading, argue color schemes.

>>65096435

That's why beginner filmmakers pick b&w for their first short films. You just don't have to worry about lighting or having any skill as editor. Everything looks clean and even.

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>>65096388
I know, just check out the difference in colors with the old DVD version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fOpgd1hciY

>>65085971
This is the one.

>>65096551

And you know everything about it right? Well tell us then.

>>65090789
>>65096011
>>65096066


Looks better in green. The green tinge as a way to differentiate between the real world and the Matrix was always a great way to separate them. Especially when you first see Neo wake up on the Nebuchadnezzar and you can SEE the green tinge disappear.

>>65084322
Goddamn the bottom is so much better. You actually get the feel of a French beach in late autumn, while the top just reminds me of the haziness of a fever dream.

>>65096222

That looks overexposed as shit. Hurts my eyes.

>>65084322
Top one looks way better. Idiots need to accept that digital features can enhance movies.

>>65096011
>>65096066
>>65096697
Are there limitations to regrading things like this, like is it going to be darker or change the contrast in certain shots etc?

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lets go back to a better time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvLcNPcceX0

>>65084587
Tau movie when?

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>>65096764
But the real world was already tinted blue to differentiate it from The Matrix, not to mention it was obviously an extremely different landscape (you know, with the sentinels and wastelands everywhere). The reason the matrix wasn't ultra green before the sequels was because, at the start of the movie, the audience did not yet know that the Matrix was even a simulation. It's supposed to be like a revelation, not "HEY EVERYONE, YOUR WORLD IS REALLY GREEN AND YOU'LL NEVER GUESS WHY." It's fucking retarded to go back and change this shit and the sequels were so bad they shouldn't even be considered canon anyway

>>65096904

Still fixable but you have to go through the entire movie and make everything look the same. This is a lot of work but can be done.

>>65096222
>crushing the blacks like a 19 years old's first photoshop attempt

is this 2005?

>>65096222
>blown highlights
>crushed blacks

JUST

>>65096697
That menu triggers so much nostalgia. Matrix was like my first DVD ever

I have taken to using the filters in VLC to colour-correct movies like this when I'm watching them on my laptop. Fuck this one-palette-fits-all shit.

>>65092239

Target Lawrence of Arabia

You could probably make a good lut pretty easily

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Did this on my phone lmao

>>65088596
I've lived through multiple wild fires and it didn't look like the top outside.

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>>65096904
You can use an AviSynth script to de-green the whole movie, but it wont work very well because each scene has a different amount of color grading added to it. It's an extremely time consuming process, getting it all to look even. Hence why >>65096697 still looks green as fuck compared to >>65097008

>>65097136
too much magenta in the mids desu

>>65097136

Red.

This might be the best thread ive done here on /v/.

Got lots of people redpilled on digital/film. Pretty good.

>>65097187
Man, this webm just reminded me why I love the Wachowskis. Somebody needs to give them a proper budget again so they can making something uncompromised by financial constraints. Ideally with a good set of editors and producers to rein them in.

>>65097282
I think they got to do everything they wanted with Jupieter's Legacy, which makes its shittiness all the more tragic.

>>65097282
Nah. They're washed up.

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>>65097197
>>65097219
My bad guys

Might be too blue-ish but this feels right to me

>>65097391

Better

>>65097282
I'd prefer the opposite, have them go back to smaller scale stuff like Bound rather than the epic scifi/fantasy stuff they've been doing ever since The Matrix.

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top or bottom?

>>65087939
based Reaves

>>65085014

hope your "clients" all asked for receipts friendo

>>65085247
>zack snyder

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I fixed the movie guys

>>65097601

Photography is pleb tier in comparison to filmmaking and any decent filmmaker should already know everything about it anyway so don't pretend to be hot shit unless you are a filmmaker yourself.

>>65097726

Feels cold.

>>65095235
I heard from the editor of Sharktopus 2/my editing professor that thanks to Adobe fucking everyone over with CC that the industry is pretty much back solely to Avid after the Final Cut Pro meme died.

>>65086468
thanks doc

>>65097726
Good movie. Every frame is so dense.

>>65098059

>Sharktopus 2

Wut.

Maybe if you are planning to do a serious project there are better options but I even worked with Vegas before and if used properly you can achieve pretty much everything that premiere has to offer. You can even import after effects no problem.

>>65097495
bottom

>>65098667

James pls.

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>>65085903
underrated post

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>>65084322
James Cameron here, I fixed it for you guys. Now it actually looks like real life. No need to thank me.

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>>65085903
So did the Indiana Jones series, IMO. But yeah, The Fifth Element is like the go-to movie used to show off the colors of recently-calibrated displays

>>65092328
I wouldn't mind watching that scene with that color correction.

>>65097726
Fuck this movie had god-tier battle scenes. I don't like Cruise's cult connections but I'll be forever thankful that he continues to support mid-budget-tier one-off sci-fi movies as well as trendy blockbuster sequels.

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>>65099235
there are only like three overhead establishing-shots like that (and they all only last a few seconds), but they're so beautiful. I wish the director would make more movies, but producers hate him because he's lazy or something

>>65092328
>slightly sped up

10/10

>>65088147
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtktg9hbC_g

>>65099444
This movie is one of those movies you wish you knew absolutely nothing about before going in.

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Fixed.
Forgive the shit bitrate. It's late and I don't feel like fucking with video size/export settings.

>>65099444
It's not even the sweeping overhead shots for me, it's the claustrophobia and the panic inside the aircraft etc., the director, editor et al captured the feeling of total unpreparedness and the pace at which their situation is changing so perfectly, it honestly gives me the same heart-racing feeling as the beach landing in Saving Private Ryan.

>>65084351
Nigga do you have sunglasses implanted in your eyeballs

>>65099581
I prefer the Blu Ray.

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>>65099629
thanks James, but there's still too much red for it to look anything like real life

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>>65099646
I feel ya man. It's my favorite sci fi movie since the 80s to be honest

>>65099811

Well at least he bothered to balance the levels.

>>65097149
there's a big difference between being miles away from the shit and being in the shit, my nigga

t. firefighter

>>65099811
The low bitrate kinda fucked up the colors, but you're not wrong.
The problem with the yellow filter is that it kinda blends in with the reds.

The best attempts in my opinion are
>>65085971
>>65088344
>>65097391

Is there any books or manuals about colour correction?

>>65099629
>>65099811
>>65099957
>>65100041
I uploaded the actual corrected clip.
vid (dot) me
/OBZy

Thoughts?

>>65099868
>that flat perspective that brings everything in towards the camera because the background is blurred to the point of reducing parallax
>that unsteady camera bobbing up and down as it moves so the movement on screen is occurring in more than one direction at once
>that visceral acting
>that god-tier mech suit
fucking based movie

>>65100149
There's a good one here.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+color+correct

>>65100166
>>65100166

A bit dark. Try white balance it's the first thing to touch everything else goes on top.

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>>65088147
>>65099679
I preferred the blu ray too for a lot of the scenes. But they really really over-did the green effect in a lot of places. It should be subtle, not "Hay everyone it's GREEEEN, like a computer screen, get it??"

The blu ray versions of the scenes in the subway or any dark hallways are awful looking. They turned the brown walls into a baby-shit green color that somehow was the same shade as the color of the agents black suits

>>65100149

Get into basic photography it explains a lot.

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oy gevalt you goyim are so crazy, this is how you do it

>>65100249
Come on, m8.

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>>65100352

>>65100267
Here.
Fucked with it slightly.
Anything further just overexposes it and blows the video out.

vid (dot) me
/zp6U

>>65100166
use http://webm.land to upload next time; linking to it is not considered "spam" on here like it is for that site

>>65100413
Cool.
Thanks, anon.

>>65100409

Looks like saving private ryan now. Nice.

>>65100540
>looks like one of the most aesthetically pleasing war movies of all time
I'll fucking take it.

>>65100409
I like it

>>65100413
got a good, non-spam-filtered one that lets you upload in .mp4? Or does that site allow for mp4s, even though it's literally called webm land?

>>65100384
are these just two pictures with a shit ton of effects added, or is it actually from some indie film?

and why is his laptop hovering in midair?

>>65100278
>those newspapers blowing across are like tumbleweeds in a Western film

never noticed this before

>>65100747

It's a troll image but the tools that are listed are used to make images on top look like the ones on the bottom. Most film students get their panties wet over yellow shit like that.