A reminder that JJ's a hack for declining this concepts
Seriously fuck off, those two at the bottom are generic-sci-fi-trek-guardians-of-the-galaxy tier and look nothing like star wars.
I think it's funny how JJ even being a hack did a better job than most of this people that calls him a hack would have done
>"Hmmm should we do something new and original? Well people hated that with the prequels right? Dude we totally hate the prequels too fellow kids lmao. Fuck anything unique, Death Star 2.0 it is senpai!"
>"Hmmm should we do something new, RISKY and original with a property we bought for 4 Billion+ the costs of ep7? Or should we do something that works so that the other 4-5 SW movies will have some hope/succes?
Ah-ooo-oohh... that would have been so much better.
doesnt seem like a logical progession of ship design. the venator class ships from the prequels make sense in becoming star destroyers. but then to make them more like fed ships?
but i can bet thats not the reason the concepts werent used
You do realize we might see all these concepts in the sequels to come, right?
>tfw i've wanted that title for a Star Wars movie ever since playing it on the N64
>tfw Jew Jew blew it and i'll likely never see it happen
Those designs fucking suck
>DUDE MORE SPIKES LMAO
>DUDE RANDOM GAPING HOLES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SHIP LMAO
originality for its own sake isn't a good thing, faggots. If they wanted to replace the iconic Star Destroyers, X-Wings and Tie Fighters they should have come up with a design that didn't suck.
it should have been a collection of ships that concentrate their power to destroy a sun thus dooming an entire solar sysytem. and it should have taken them at least 3 films to finally destroy this threat. it would have made kylo and the first order a lot more menacing.
The Red Star Destroyer looks more like a Trade Federation design than an Imperial one, like the next generation of Lucrehulk. The Four Prong looks like something out of a video game, too gimmicky for a movie.
The problem with the War Hammer, which was meant to be a Republic weapon, is thematic - the good guys aren't supposed to have the super weapons, even if they're a neat idea.
The Death Star 3 was originally going to be hidden underwater.
They were also about to have Rey go to Endor and swim underwater to salvage mcguffins from Palpatine's tower from the Death Star 2's remains.
>no rathtar concept art
That creature design was fucking shit but I thought there would be a few concepts of it in the book.
I'm almost certain they decided to add that scene at the last minute because it's so disjointed from the rest of the film, and that's why the monster is such an awful design
because making them sci-fi only appeals to nerds and isn't as profitable as making them bland adventure films
please disregard the fact that them being sci fi is what got them popular in the first place
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goddamit, so many nice ideas, and nothing got into the movie
Why didn't they show this in the film. It's the exact same problem with the prequels. Rather than show us the jedi kylo has killed all it does is say he has killed them and expect us to believe that. In the prequels we were told anakin and obi wan went on great adventures, but we got to see none of that.
Not surprised that Jedi Killers never made to the film, the idea of even specialized guys who aren't full on Sith being able to reliably kill Jedi one on one doesn't really gel with how Jedi have been presented before.
Too many autists don't get the serial feel of these movies. They think there should have been an entire movie explaining Finn's leaving the First Order, an entire movie setting up Kylo's fall.
Those things don't really matter because those are the starting point for those characters. The Anakin and Obi-Wan thing leaves out details of their friendship as the trilogy goes on, there's an on going relationship that's off screen.
It's like saying you need an entire movie setting up Vader's fall or Leia's decision to join the rebellion even though she's officially an Imperial diplomat. Those are just the background details you need to set up the story you're going to be told moving forward.
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Shut the fuck up you fucking reddit nigger. Those concepts are unique and more original, and specially it would make completely sense considering this shit is 30 years after the originals. The technology, ships and weapons should be a evolution of that.
Fuck nostalgia, seriously. Fuck JJ.
Shows you how much these fucking hacks know about the Star Wars universe in general.
TIE Fighters (and all TIE variants) were designed to work in tandem with Star Destroyers or any other larger ship which was capable of carrying the special docking mechanism which was used to deploy or re-acquire the fighter.
Assault Gunboats were hybrid design, capable of landing and being deployed through the same docking mechanism which was used for TIE Fighters.
I'm not saying they have to follow every single step the previous episodes (and here I'm not refering to episode 1-2-3) laid down but a little research could have helped you know...
Thrawn kind of did that.
>install cloaking devices on asteroids
>disperse oodles of invisible asteroids above planet
>planet is effectively blockaded since any ship trying to take off or land risks getting smashed
I really have no idea why they would just cast aside perfectly good material like that
Actually I do, I don't think it's because they were too lazy to design a new ship that had hyperdrives and could land on solid ground, but simply because they wanted to reuse an old known (by every normie) design for nostalgia points
The top ship seems reminiscent of the Narn's G'quan heavy cruiser from Babylon 5.
Red = Old republic ships, why would they fucking go back to that
>tfw no star destroyers with gulf oil livery
Hammerhead ships aren't, but the republic using red ships very much is
See also gunships and the transport ship at the start of TPM
the giant mushroom is literally from Halo
To be fair, that cop looks like it belongs more in Star Wars than Star Trek.
It was always the other way around.
Lost Stars shows the people that went and picked up Vader from the debris field, in a Lambda. He just ends up inside the Lambda himself after docking with the ship. I don't think it gets mentioned past that.
It's this one
Appears in rebels too, and according to the first "appearances" entry, in some pre-TFA canon comic so there's an extremely high chance it might reappear in ep 8 or 9
>Vader's was a unique ship he customised himself
That was some EU shit, and it was all contradictory anyways. In the old PC game TIE Fighter, it was called an " advanced experimental" design.
Holy fuck. So much cool shit that got thrown out. We can only hope the next director isn't such as pussy and decides to take a few risks.
The thing that bothers me the most is Jakku. Like why the fuck did they decide on another desert planet? Tatooine was in what- 3 movies already? Why do another version when you could come up with literally any other concept? The swamp version was so much cooler. I knew this movie was going to play it safe but didn't think it would be this extreme.
Ya its possible. But what if they decide to stick to the idea of just copying the OT since it proved so successful? I'm cautiously optimistic they decide to take a few risks next time.
Do you really think Disney is going to let anyone have creative control over a multibillion dollar franchise?
Get ready for 20 years of Star Wars conceived in boardroom meetings and focus groups.
iirc it was supposed to be a prototype for what would become the Interceptor rather than Vader's special snowflake fighter. It actually may have been one if those games where I heard that or another one of the "Art of" books
Do they fucking know how much friction there is when you're cutting through a door with a lightsaber?
It would fly out of your hand if you tried that.
>Kills the most popular character in the franchise.
>played it as safe as possible.
Where the fuck were these guys? I was so excited to see some seven samurai wrecking everything, but all we got was a shitty vision where you couldn't even see them do anything. JJ lied to me, that was THE highlight of the trailer for fucks sake.
>Rey was meant to cut through a Star Destroyer, in space, without a helmet, from the pilot seat of a moving X-Wing, with a lightsaber
And you guys thought the movie version was a Mary Sue.
>The Jedi Killer eats sun matter. He's in his meditation chamber, the sun energy comes into the room, and he grasps and eats whatever power that is.
We KOTOR 2 now.
>Nihilus eats an entire fucking planet of Force sentitives, a feat unmatched by anyone before or since
>if you pummel him enough with a lightsaber, he just dies.
That game made no sense. Nigga was a walking Death Star and you can just cut him down like cattle.
Did you not pay attention to anything throughout the game?
Nihilus vs jedi Jesus is a force vampire vs a force black hole, when he tries to absorb you it fucks him up and that's why you can kill him
>cut stuff out to make books later
They did. If you want to know anything about the politics you better get a book or two. And JJ cut the Senate scene with Leia's representative begging for Republic's help.
Which.... OH MY GOD
All of these are shit. They shouldn't have even added that new awful design either (especially when it only shows up for a moment). The First Order command ship should have just been a Super Star Destroyer (and don't give it a retarded name like Finalizer)
I'm well aware. Doesn't change the fact that JJ clearly didn't "play it as safe as possible." There was a lot he could have done to play it even more safe. 2 new leads are a girl and a blekk. New antagonist is an extremely conflicted, edgy millennial. He introduced a new maguffin Droid. Lucas didn't do that in three fucking movies. He just made up bullshit to explain why C-3P0 was hanging out with baby Anakin. There's threads going on right now on /tv/ about how Disney fucked up casting a blekk.
>played it as safe AS POSSIBLE
>destroyed the franchise by casting against type
They are saving the Super Star Destroyer for Snoke's base. TFAVD says he keeps his command center mobile, and that the Resistance fear there are bigger ships than the Resurgent-class Star Destroyers under the FO's control. The latter wouldn't be included if there wasn't a plan to use it. All Star Destroyers get stupid nicknames anyway. Finalizer is just a drop in the ocean.
>All this cool concept art will never see production
Yet we got the same generic shit. Honestly the vibe concept art gives off is a thousand times more interesting and atmospheric than the actual products themselves. That seems to go for movies, games and everything else.
I wish more of the art was applied to final products.
>6 or so years between ep 4 and ep 6
>introduction of advanced TIEs, TIE bombers, TIE interceptors and SSD
>10 or so years between ep 1 and 3
>pretty much everything change, logical and sensible evolution of designs
>20 years between the PT and the OT
>major changes, though as before, logically and sensibly
>30 years between the OT and the DisneyT
>xwings and TIEs get a paintjob, gunships get replaced with some shit looking landing barge ripoff, actual new and advanced crafts from the OT get shelved
How the fuck did they conceive this was supposed to do anything to damage a fucking Star Destroyer?
The hull would probably be thicker than the entire length of the blade, never mind just poking the tip in
>Poe was supposed to be black
>Finn was supposed to be white
I'd have been happy if they included this rebel heavy bomber or whatever the fuck it is.
Reminds me of like a WW2 B-17 crossed with a Y-Wing
Holy shit I almost chocked laughing at this.